| 00:00.00 | Semlar | predominant color? |
| 00:00.09 | Semlar | this is for opie right |
| 00:00.09 | Tuller | that was my assumption |
| 00:00.41 | foxlit | yes, this appears in opie. |
| 00:01.26 | Semlar | are you expecting to be able to do something other than look up the value in the table based on the key |
| 00:01.42 | Semlar | that seems like the only logical course here |
| 00:01.50 | foxlit | there are like ~30 distinct values, so you could shorten this just by going local c = {âfffffffâ, âfefefefeâ, â¦} replacing values in the table with indices into c, and providing function(k) return c[t[k]] end |
| 00:02.05 | Semlar | so compression? |
| 00:02.13 | foxlit | wouldnât be very good, but would still be shorter than the 670kb of the original file. |
| 00:02.43 | Semlar | you'd add overhead to the lookup speed, it probably wouldn't be worth the trade off |
| 00:03.13 | foxlit | for reference, OPieâs 5.4 implementation of this and minor plumbing is 14534 bytes long. |
| 00:04.48 | Semlar | you can drop the extension and the brackets and quotes of course, it wouldn't change the memory usage |
| 00:05.19 | foxlit | (the zipped table would be about 125kb, which would roughly double the downloaded zip file size) |
| 00:05.47 | Semlar | most of the paths have common values that could be compressed |
| 00:05.59 | Tuller | you could also make it a bigass string but that also doesn't help much |
| 00:06.00 | Semlar | like inv_ or ability_ or achievement_ |
| 00:07.28 | Semlar | i doubt you'd want to add table lookups just to shorten the names |
| 00:08.28 | foxlit | letâs suppose that Iâm insane and only really care about the size of the code in bytes. |
| 00:09.44 | Semlar | then i guess you would use an algorithm that replaced the largest common chunks in the strings with short variables |
| 00:09.49 | Thunder_Child | What do you mean 'suppose' |
| 00:10.40 | Tuller | so what's the usage of the information? |
| 00:10.41 | foxlit | runtime memory and time usage isnât too interesting; Iâd wrap your function in a caching metatable, and basically pay O(1) for the code size, and some negligible amount for the few entries Iâll actually need to retrieve. |
| 00:10.53 | Tuller | are these icons just for spells, or are they for abilities? |
| 00:11.01 | Tuller | err items, or both sets? |
| 00:11.23 | foxlit | these icons are for everything. |
| 00:11.35 | Tuller | because you could redefine as id->color otherwise |
| 00:12.01 | foxlit | spells, items, achievements, things that got placed into Interface\Icons by mistake; a few random keys outside Interface\Icons that I felt like coloring, etc. |
| 00:12.56 | Tuller | could you sort by key? |
| 00:13.34 | foxlit | Tuller: ? |
| 00:14.38 | Tuller | i'm just wondering if there's a way to assign a numeric id to each key |
| 00:15.06 | foxlit | sure, you could play this game with the string keys replaced with integers between 0 and 2^32. |
| 00:15.24 | Semlar | instead of the path use a spell or item with that path that you could look up in game |
| 00:15.34 | Semlar | i think is what he means |
| 00:15.40 | foxlit | (spell/item IDs would be clever, but I donât have them, and youâd looking at around ~200k keys, which only leaves you 3 and a bit bytes per key before that raw table is more efficient) |
| 00:23.41 | Tuller | getting rid of the default exension .blp drops a decent bit at least :P |
| 00:23.47 | foxlit | i.e. itâs roughly euivalent to trying to do the same thing to http://go-hero.net/box/ijz-ic.lua |
| 00:24.23 | foxlit | (write a function that, given a key from that table, returns the associated value) |
| 00:27.27 | foxlit | I liked the filename/color input better, though, since it at least gives you some context as to whatâs going on here. |
| 00:31.03 | Tuller | assuming that all values are 2 digits or less, you can drop that list down into a single string of length maxValue*2 |
| 00:31.35 | foxlit | maxKey*2? |
| 00:31.44 | Tuller | yes |
| 00:32.46 | foxlit | true. Theyâre definitely all smaller than 32, so you could even just use a string of maxKey*1 characters, using some ascii encoding. |
| 00:33.13 | Tuller | that's basically how libitemprice in sellfish worked |
| 00:33.24 | foxlit | the tiny problem with that scheme is that maxKey is 268409512, so that string is going to be 255MiB. |
| 00:34.08 | Tuller | yep :P |
| 00:37.46 | Tuller | but lets pretend you can get down to 14257 keys somehow :) |
| 00:38.42 | Semlar | if this is for comparing against texture paths in-game, you could strip inv_, achievement_, underscores, etc out of the paths before comparing them, assuming it doesn't create any collisions in the table |
| 00:41.45 | Thunder_Child | Interesting, I did not know that Youtube was streaming 4K material. |
| 00:43.25 | foxlit | Semlar: most of those things cause collisions. |
| 00:44.11 | foxlit | (wowâs ICONS directory is an untamed mess of naming conventions) |
| 00:47.10 | foxlit | Tuller: the âsomehowâ would be interesting :) |
| 00:58.47 | fewyn | the running of the gnomes was fun |
| 00:58.52 | fewyn | we ended up crashing the server |
| 01:14.33 | Neffi | o.O |
| 01:14.39 | Neffi | how many gnomes were involved? |
| 01:14.56 | Thunder_Child | 1 |
| 01:15.08 | Neffi | ~whalenuke Thunder_Child |
| 01:15.09 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Thunder_Child with his mind powers. |
| 01:15.19 | Thunder_Child | ~shield |
| 01:15.19 | purl | ACTION turns into shield and protects master |
| 01:16.11 | Thunder_Child | It was like a running of lemmings. |
| 01:16.18 | fewyn | about ~3000 Neffi |
| 01:16.25 | fewyn | there were 3 maxed guilds |
| 01:16.39 | Neffi | what the-- |
| 01:16.50 | fewyn | http://arcaneratsel.tumblr.com/post/99494186257/running-of-the-gnomes-2014 |
| 01:19.19 | Neffi | cool |
| 01:20.44 | Thunder_Child | Blizz does tend to get unhappy when people crash the server. |
| 01:21.07 | Thunder_Child | Charity events may mitigate said unhappyness. |
| 01:21.19 | Thunder_Child | unhappiness* |
| 01:22.48 | fewyn | they knew well in advance |
| 01:22.57 | fewyn | i think even some blizzard employees were tweeting about it |
| 01:23.07 | fewyn | happens every year in october |
| 01:23.15 | fewyn | for the last 4 or 5 |
| 01:23.18 | Semlar | do in-game chat channels have a cap on how many people can join them |
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| 02:13.00 | kullervo | no |
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| 06:02.52 | jleclanche | ScratchMonkey: fix your client |
| 06:03.40 | Shirik | I was going to send him to ##fix_your_connection if he reconnected one more time :P |
| 06:09.31 | smcn | lol i have no idea what you're talking abt because i don't have leave/joins showing |
| 06:10.53 | smcn | tbh i find it kind of irrelevant because i can just start typing a name and hit tab to see if they're still in channel |
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| 07:00.53 | Sintacks | what if you start typing something and started with their name, and they quit/part before you hit enter... |
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| 07:26.44 | karl_w_w | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lists_of_lists |
| 07:26.49 | karl_w_w | sure why not |
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| 07:39.21 | smcn | is that how wikipedia editors entertain themselves when they're not being complete snobbish assholes |
| 07:40.26 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 07:49.41 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: I propose to move this page from List of lists of lists to Lists of lists of lists per WP:LISTNAME. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 13:18, 27 September 2011 (UTC) |
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| 07:50.19 | nevcairiel | insert "i heard you like lists" joke here |
| 07:50.45 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 07:51.36 | Shirik | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lists_of_lists_of_lists |
| 07:51.36 | karl_w_w | I don't usually list lists, but when I do they're lists of lists |
| 07:54.22 | smcn | is xhibit even alive anymore? i feel like that meme is 100 years old |
| 07:57.34 | smcn | why is there not a "you're welcome" emote in hearthstone |
| 07:57.38 | smcn | blazard pls |
| 07:59.49 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 08:00.08 | Fisker | I wanted that list :( |
| 08:00.14 | Shirik | smcn: because you seem to think that "thanks" is a compliment |
| 08:00.21 | Shirik | when it's actually a "lol you're so stupid" |
| 08:00.42 | smcn | Shirik: no no, that's the point is i want to be equally sarcastic |
| 08:02.41 | karl_w_w | i think rock paper shotgun has too many articles |
| 08:03.30 | Dagmar | They're just naturally moving to fill in the void caused by Gawker/Kotaku |
| 08:07.42 | Mr_Rabies | gaming journalism |
| 08:07.42 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 08:11.28 | Dagmar | Precisely. |
| 08:14.40 | VIad | hmmm... so MSAA is removed in WoD? |
| 08:15.22 | VIad | well, I guess it can be forced back on via the control panel for nvidia/ati :) |
| 08:22.07 | nevcairiel | no, it cannot |
| 08:22.34 | VIad | why? :( |
| 08:22.45 | VIad | nvidia control panel has lots of options to override the game options. |
| 08:23.15 | nevcairiel | because they didn't remove it because they think their new options are better, but they removed it because its incompatible with changes to their engine |
| 08:25.39 | VIad | yeah but I've played lots of old games that don't support AA, but you could anyway turn it on in the nvidia control panel and BOM, you have AA :D |
| 08:26.03 | nevcairiel | old games wouldnt use fancy new rendering features that are incompatible with MSAA though |
| 08:26.22 | nevcairiel | you are free to try tho, but it wont work |
| 08:26.27 | VIad | yeah |
| 08:26.34 | VIad | was about to say, hey, I got the ptr, I can try it :P |
| 08:27.09 | VIad | I see the issue with window resizing while running is still on the ptr |
| 08:27.14 | VIad | I guess it's gonna be a new quirk on live :p |
| 08:27.36 | nevcairiel | use /console gxrestart |
| 08:30.16 | VIad | uh |
| 08:30.24 | VIad | gonna have to bind that to some addon somewhere |
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| 08:36.41 | VIad | couldn't tell |
| 08:36.52 | VIad | let me try again |
| 08:36.52 | VIad | :p |
| 08:37.02 | VIad | fx high one looked better than cmaa |
| 08:37.09 | VIad | or maybe it was too blurry |
| 08:37.48 | VIad | enabled 16xQ CSAA override |
| 08:37.54 | VIad | let's see how this works :p set the game to "none" |
| 08:37.59 | VIad | from the game settings |
| 08:38.31 | VIad | uuuh |
| 08:38.34 | VIad | I think it worked |
| 08:38.34 | VIad | :D |
| 08:38.43 | VIad | so smooth |
| 08:38.46 | VIad | silky smooth |
| 08:41.12 | VIad | nevcairiel: 8x with CSAA is CSAA better than current live one? |
| 08:44.15 | VIad | ugh |
| 08:44.18 | VIad | tested around |
| 08:44.30 | VIad | FXAA enabled made it smooth and nice but at cost that fonts became slightly blurry too |
| 08:44.38 | VIad | but yeah the AA settings didn't affect the game |
| 08:44.46 | VIad | so overriding wasn't possible |
| 08:44.51 | VIad | though forcing FXAA worked :p |
| 08:45.17 | nevcairiel | forcing fxaa is never a good choice, since it also processes the UI and makes it ugly |
| 08:45.23 | nevcairiel | anyhow can enable fxaa ingame |
| 08:45.33 | VIad | jupp |
| 08:45.34 | nevcairiel | but fxaa sucks since it smoothes textures and steals detail |
| 08:45.39 | nevcairiel | cmaa is the only decent choice |
| 08:45.40 | VIad | I agree |
| 08:46.20 | nevcairiel | blizzard said they might investigate more advanced solution for a future patch |
| 08:58.10 | Mr_Rabies | i miss when we just had "antialiasing" and the game/video card handled it |
| 08:58.11 | Mr_Rabies | :X |
| 08:59.01 | nevcairiel | thats typically MSAA then |
| 09:24.18 | Sintacks | wtb ra-den fos |
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| 09:59.40 | VIad | you have my tank, Sintacks |
| 10:02.06 | Fisker | And my dps |
| 10:03.14 | VIad | can we 3 man? |
| 10:05.58 | karl_w_w | oh cool, if you put a + at the end of a bitly link it gives you stats |
| 10:26.20 | Sintacks | +s karl_w_w |
| 10:26.35 | Sintacks | goes to bed |
| 10:27.35 | karl_w_ws | thanks Sintacks <3 |
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| 11:13.29 | Elmoe | anyone know what is up with 6.0 and GetSpellBookItemInfo? can't lookup any spells that come from talents (divine star, cascade, etc.) or spells like new resto shaman water shield |
| 11:13.59 | Elmoe | GetSpellInfo works on the spell IDs but GetSpellBookItemInfo returns nothing |
| 11:19.44 | foxlit | approximately nothing; itâs just affecting more spells than it used to. |
| 11:20.34 | foxlit | what happens is that some spells are implemented by overriding others, and various querying APIs have different attitudes as to what to return for them. |
| 11:21.52 | foxlit | Jamash raged about this quite a bit. |
| 11:21.59 | Semlar | no kidding |
| 11:22.36 | Semlar | to be fair, it's kind of a mess |
| 11:23.00 | foxlit | itâs just that nothing has been designed with the explicit purpose of answering âDo I know this spell (name/id)?" |
| 11:23.26 | Semlar | well, except the fact that there's an api function literally for looking up whether you know a spell and it doesn't work |
| 11:23.30 | foxlit | the name/id queries are just sort of half-heartedly tacked onto things that have different purposes. |
| 11:23.45 | nevcairiel | it totally messes with my smart targeting code because those spellbook slots dont work in IsHelpfulSpell / IsHarmfulSpell |
| 11:25.39 | Semlar | like if i do IsSpellKnown(77767) it fails, even though i know cobra shot |
| 11:25.53 | Semlar | clearly the function doesn't do what it's designed to do |
| 11:26.50 | Elmoe | its made worse now because there is also no efficient way to query talentinfo by name, so the only way to resolve a spell string like "cascade" is to iterate by tier and column using GetTalentInfo |
| 11:26.56 | foxlit | (but it probably thinks you know Serpent Sting, which you canât actually cast) |
| 11:26.57 | zenzelezz | "[2. Trade] ...: Selling [Sky Golem] last one, best price 8500G! cheap as a streethooker with aids!" |
| 11:27.08 | foxlit | er, Steady Shot. |
| 11:28.34 | nevcairiel | its even funnier for moonkin druids, where moonfire is the primary spell and sunfire the replacement, and you switch between them based on the eclipse status |
| 11:28.38 | nevcairiel | one works fine, the other doesnt |
| 11:28.41 | nevcairiel | its super annoying |
| 11:29.04 | Semlar | that should really be fixed |
| 11:29.13 | Semlar | because it affects a lot of spell api functions |
| 11:29.22 | Semlar | and it's not working right |
| 11:29.47 | nevcairiel | i should collect the replacements of key spells for a few classes that i care about and make a list in my code to work around it |
| 11:30.02 | foxlit | But why do you even have those problems? |
| 11:30.17 | foxlit | I mean, I think the only case where you actually canât avoid this is if someone types in a literal /cast Sunfire macro. |
| 11:33.15 | Semlar | so you can't query whether a transformed spell is harmful or not at all |
| 11:33.19 | Semlar | that's interesting |
| 11:33.23 | nevcairiel | what i do is determine if a spell is harmful or helpful based on its action content and set some attributes, and if Sunfire doesnt tell me this, then i need to somehow know that Sunfire is actually Moonfire and query the API bout this instead |
| 11:34.10 | Semlar | and what if a transformed spell does something other than what the base spell did |
| 11:34.29 | nevcairiel | that would be annoying, but not sure its a thing |
| 11:34.54 | nevcairiel | could always override the type instead of a replacement spell id |
| 11:35.30 | Semlar | anyway, it's a problem that the spell api functions flat out don't work properly for transformed spells |
| 11:35.56 | Semlar | it's not something that should have to be worked around, the api functions should work the way they normally do with them |
| 11:36.25 | nevcairiel | cant write addons with a list of shoulds |
| 11:36.26 | VIad | select() or ({func()})[index] to lookup an argument? |
| 11:36.37 | nevcairiel | select |
| 11:36.37 | Semlar | select.. |
| 11:37.16 | foxlit | cdr. |
| 11:37.36 | Semlar | cooldown reduction? |
| 11:38.34 | foxlit | nope. |
| 11:39.14 | foxlit | anyhow, I think what you actually want to fix this is spellID = GetEffectiveSpellID(âspellNameâ or spellID) |
| 11:39.34 | nevcairiel | surprisingly, sunfire is the only spell that comes up for me |
| 11:39.47 | nevcairiel | wrote a little script to poke all spells i know |
| 11:40.15 | Semlar | foxlit: no, i want the transformed spell to completely replace the original one |
| 11:40.18 | foxlit | which should tell you what effect youâll actually trigger (e.g. Sunfire) when you try to cast a spell name or ID (e.g. Moonfire). |
| 11:41.08 | Semlar | i shouldn't be getting TRUE for IsSpellKnown() on steady shot and false for cobra shot |
| 11:41.20 | foxlit | That would be a very broad thing, Semlar. |
| 11:41.34 | foxlit | While this is a very narrow addition. |
| 11:41.35 | Semlar | and i shouldn't be getting NOTHING from IsHarmfulSpell on cobra shot |
| 11:41.48 | Semlar | so there's obviously a problem on the backend |
| 11:42.09 | Semlar | frankly i'm surprised this isn't causing issues in the interface |
| 11:42.27 | nevcairiel | the interface doesnt use most of this stuff |
| 11:42.28 | foxlit | you shouldnât be; the interface largely doesnât care for this. |
| 11:42.37 | Semlar | except it does use things like IsSpellKnown |
| 11:42.48 | foxlit | only for specific effects for which no overrides exist. |
| 11:44.49 | foxlit | Semlar: but how do you imagine IsSpellKnown behaving around Moonfire/Sunfire? |
| 11:45.00 | Semlar | i don't even know how those spells work |
| 11:45.22 | foxlit | they replace each other with some regularity as part of normal combat. |
| 11:45.45 | Semlar | then the player doesn't know moonfire while it's transformed into sunfire |
| 11:45.54 | foxlit | So I have this /cast Moonfire macro |
| 11:46.04 | foxlit | should that break when I can only cast Sunfire? |
| 11:46.17 | Semlar | can you cast moonfire? |
| 11:46.18 | nevcairiel | do you know if custom buttons with a cast spell by id setup work with moonfire? |
| 11:46.36 | nevcairiel | i only ever use action buttons, and those transform of course |
| 11:46.46 | foxlit | normally, I believe that macro would cast Sunfire when in Solar. |
| 11:46.56 | foxlit | I proxy through /cast, so I donât know anything. |
| 11:46.59 | Semlar | if that's true, then moonfire and sunfire should be treated as the same spell |
| 11:47.40 | foxlit | what would that entail? |
| 11:47.49 | foxlit | should they just have one spell ID? Does its name then change? |
| 11:49.12 | Semlar | separate spell IDs, treat the name the same way the game does |
| 11:49.45 | foxlit | so what should IsSpellKnown(âMoonfireâ) return while Sunfire is active? |
| 11:49.54 | foxlit | what should IsSpellKnown(âSunfireâ) return while Moonfire is active? |
| 11:50.07 | Semlar | if they're the same spell, both of them should return true |
| 11:51.28 | foxlit | (theyâre different spells with similar effects that replace each other, but I suppose that fits as âsame spellâ) |
| 11:51.37 | nevcairiel | on another topic, wasn't there a way to get a global variable into a secure headers environment which is then available to all child frames? I thought there was, but I can't make it work. |
| 11:51.40 | Semlar | if /cast moonfire casts sunfire, then they're the same spell |
| 11:51.52 | foxlit | But /cast Steady Shot casts Cobra Shot |
| 11:52.02 | Semlar | and yet i can't check whether i know cobra shot |
| 11:52.17 | foxlit | so hypothetically, IsSpellKnown(âSteady Shotâ) should return true. |
| 11:52.42 | Semlar | it wouldn't really matter either way |
| 11:52.49 | foxlit | which seems a little silly, since you donât know and canât cast steady shot. |
| 11:52.54 | Semlar | i would prefer it return false |
| 11:53.32 | foxlit | nevcairiel: no. |
| 11:53.57 | nevcairiel | so i have to like create the damn table in every childs env itself? |
| 11:54.02 | Semlar | no |
| 11:54.05 | Semlar | just use the same header |
| 11:54.20 | Semlar | you can use the same environment for all of your frames |
| 11:54.23 | foxlit | you could do handle:Run(âreturn StealThisGlobalâ), but thatâs only going to work for simple types. |
| 11:54.36 | nevcairiel | i tried creating it in the headers env, but that wasn't visible to the childs |
| 11:55.24 | foxlit | re-dispatch into the parent. |
| 11:55.56 | foxlit | something like parent:RunFor(self, ââ¦â, â¦) |
| 11:56.34 | Semlar | yeah, i just make one frame that i execute everything in |
| 11:57.08 | Semlar | any time i run something it uses that handle |
| 11:58.51 | Semlar | i usually use wrapscript, not sure if that's the best solution |
| 11:59.01 | foxlit | it would be nice to be able to share things across environment boundaries, but basically thereâs nobody willing to implement that. |
| 11:59.14 | nevcairiel | lets see if i did this right |
| 11:59.43 | Semlar | you can do like SecureHandlerWrapScript(Header, 'OnClick', Button, [[]]) and have it execute in the header |
| 12:03.13 | nevcairiel | seems to work |
| 12:05.27 | Semlar | foxlit probably has better ideas for best practices, i just do whatever works |
| 12:06.30 | nevcairiel | yeah i remember i used the header redirect before |
| 12:06.48 | nevcairiel | somehow i just thought they all execute in the headers env, but that was apparently wrong |
| 12:07.17 | foxlit | probably conflating with wrapped scripts, which do precisely that. |
| 12:08.19 | Semlar | you could do like f:SetAttribute('_onclick', [=[self:RunFor(self:GetParent(), [[ print(self:GetName()) ]])]=]) |
| 12:08.36 | foxlit | the other way around. |
| 12:08.43 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 12:08.54 | Semlar | i think i was trying to figure out what the hell self was when i did that |
| 12:09.01 | nevcairiel | and i like to store my snippet in an attribute and use self:GetAttribute for the body |
| 12:09.24 | nevcairiel | less confuzzling then nested strings |
| 12:09.30 | foxlit | *hate*. |
| 12:09.38 | Semlar | well i think that script had to execute things in separate environments |
| 12:09.43 | foxlit | :RunAttribute would be so cool, but you canât pass the handle. |
| 12:09.58 | nevcairiel | yeah they even have such a function dont they |
| 12:09.58 | VIad | well that's competent http://ss.bool.no/capture_1413115785.png |
| 12:10.00 | nevcairiel | but without handle |
| 12:11.10 | VIad | and yes, they actually made it real :P http://www.knope2012.com/imagescmyk/campaign/1239u/09230023/poster/.jpeg |
| 12:11.14 | karl_w_ws | in FTL is it mean to mind control their crew on their ship and then teleport them into your oxygen-less teleport room? |
| 12:30.35 | Semlar | so is there a reason they removed the power type and amount from GetSpellInfo |
| 12:31.56 | Semlar | my cooldown addon can't calculate how long before you recharge enough energy before you can use an ability any more |
| 12:36.56 | Semlar | scraping the tooltip onupdate would be highly impractical |
| 12:39.38 | Semlar | but spells change their resource cost due to procs and things :( |
| 12:39.44 | Semlar | so i can't just cache it |
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| 13:40.25 | bluipodcow | Hmmmm |
| 13:40.26 | bluipodcow | So |
| 13:40.50 | Fisker | Hi |
| 13:40.53 | bluipodcow | Addons all ready with updates for 6.0.2 ? |
| 13:42.11 | bluipodcow | Hopefully wow interface will have their survival guide thingy up |
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| 13:42.51 | Semlar | survives bluipodcow |
| 13:43.01 | bluipodcow | Gasp ! |
| 13:43.18 | Semlar | nobody uses my addons so that's not a problem |
| 13:43.50 | bluipodcow | O I found Cairenn's post on it |
| 13:44.03 | bluipodcow | With a spelling error in it |
| 13:44.23 | bluipodcow | PTR not PRT :P |
| 13:45.52 | Fisker | That's a typo |
| 13:46.09 | Cairenn | has no idea what blu is talking about |
| 13:46.17 | bluipodcow | Fisker's a typo |
| 13:46.27 | Semlar | i think bluipodcow is dyslexic |
| 13:46.36 | nevcairiel | that would explain things |
| 13:46.55 | Semlar | where does it say PRT |
| 13:46.57 | bluipodcow | It's in that 6.0.2 news post on the front page |
| 13:47.03 | Semlar | no it isn't |
| 13:47.17 | bluipodcow | Sneaky edit |
| 13:47.21 | bluipodcow | lol |
| 13:47.27 | Cairenn | *innocent look* |
| 13:47.28 | Semlar | >_> |
| 13:47.42 | nevcairiel | see, Cairenn is totally innocent, bluipodcow just can't read |
| 13:47.48 | Semlar | yeah, that must be it |
| 13:47.57 | Semlar | no body no crime |
| 13:48.38 | bluipodcow | Well I am here at work at 2am on a Sunday night /Monday morning |
| 13:49.06 | Semlar | it's clearly 10am on a sunday i don't know what you're talking about |
| 13:49.24 | Semlar | wait, do you have lottery numbers? |
| 13:52.01 | bluipodcow | Nope |
| 13:52.06 | bluipodcow | Ate them |
| 13:52.42 | Semlar | that's unsanitary |
| 13:53.28 | bluipodcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:53.49 | bluipodcow | A |
| 13:54.01 | Semlar | reboots bluipodcow |
| 13:54.23 | bluipodcow | Mmmmmm |
| 14:13.08 | Fisker | has an idea what bluipodcow is talking about |
| 14:13.18 | Fisker | But he's not trustworthy with all the ipod lies |
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| 14:17.14 | bluipodcow | Lol |
| 14:24.31 | Jamash | foxlit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trie |
| 14:27.01 | Jamash | foxlit: specifically, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radix_tree |
| 14:28.13 | Jamash | karl_w_ws: mean by comparison to simply setting them on fire or blowing up their entire ship? |
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| 14:36.19 | karl_w_ws | yes Jamash |
| 14:37.14 | Jamash | I'm going to say not any meaner than the other available ways to dispatch foes in FTL |
| 14:37.16 | karl_w_ws | teleporters are just too overpowdered |
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| 15:00.06 | Jamash | is there a things that should be in the toybox but aren't megathread? |
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| 16:24.27 | foxlit | Jamash: foxlit: specifically, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radix_tree << care to estimate how much space thatâd take? :) |
| 16:25.56 | Jamash | foxlit: I've never actually implemented one |
| 16:26.06 | Jamash | I've read that they're very efficient though |
| 16:26.23 | foxlit | (part of the reason for linking the actual data was so that people could test whether their idea works. Maybe I should throw up a scoreboard somewhere) |
| 16:26.57 | Jamash | I'll give it a shot |
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| 16:56.42 | foxlit | hm, but then Iâd have to run user-supplied code to validate solutions, and thatâs just asking for headaches :( |
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| 17:16.43 | karl_w_ws | so how good is FFXIII really? |
| 17:17.10 | karl_w_ws | was it better than XII? |
| 17:17.29 | Thunder_Child | Subjective? |
| 17:21.46 | MiRai | karl_w_ws: I never played it, but I've been told it's pretty much all on rails, but you should watch Spoony's review of it - http://spoonyexperiment.com/game-reviews/final-fantasy-series/final-fantasy-xiii/ |
| 17:21.52 | MiRai | (which will probably make you not want to play it) |
| 17:26.47 | Thunder_Child | Or http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/8828-Lightning-Returns-Final-Fantasy-XIII Wich will really make you not want to play it. |
| 17:29.47 | foxlit | http://www.townlong-yak.com/casc/ << 1.2, choose-your-own-locale from CDN, LuaFileSystem replacing luaposix, and minor fixes. |
| 17:30.23 | foxlit | kd3: hopefully no longer in korean. |
| 17:30.34 | kd3 | huzzah |
| 17:32.13 | karl_w_ws | final fantasy has always been on rails to some extent |
| 17:33.28 | karl_w_ws | that's not the same game Thunder_Child :P |
| 17:34.04 | Thunder_Child | karl_w_ws: Close enough, and there are many references to XIII. |
| 17:34.34 | Thunder_Child | Go back far enough and there is one for XIII, I am simply lazy. |
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| 18:11.24 | Fisker | trips |
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| 18:22.46 | Fisker | Hey kd3 |
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| 18:37.08 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Fisker |
| 18:37.08 | purl | shoots Fisker in his sleep |
| 18:37.20 | Fisker | hey Thunder_Child |
| 18:37.24 | Thunder_Child | Wow, that's kinda harsh for purl. |
| 18:56.22 | Fisker | k |
| 19:13.43 | kullervo | Thunder_Child: your name gets shortened on my screen so it cuts off at the C, just guess what my brain constantly autocompletes it as |
| 19:14.02 | Thunder_Child | Thunder_Cunt |
| 19:14.15 | kullervo | Dingding! You win! |
| 19:14.21 | Thunder_Child | Not a hard guess. |
| 19:14.50 | Maldivia | on my end, you're Thunder_Chil :) |
| 19:14.50 | kullervo | this would be funnier on another network where I roll by PornCat |
| 19:14.53 | Thunder_Child | Helps that I act like an asshole. |
| 19:15.16 | Thunder_Child | Thats kinda creepy kullervo. |
| 19:16.14 | kullervo | it's an old story that dates back many a year, where me and my friends had a definitely-not-a-clan Porn and used animal names |
| 19:17.18 | Thunder_Child | Still trying to figure out how that makes it any less creepy. |
| 19:18.48 | kullervo | the idea was to be as juvenile as possible |
| 19:19.03 | kullervo | but I guess it may appear creepy in this day and age |
| 19:20.05 | Thunder_Child | Although that has nothing on an older gentleman who chose 'Unkle' for his handle. |
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| 19:22.12 | Thunder_Child | I think my point is creeply proven. |
| 19:29.16 | Unkle | Did you speak of the devil? |
| 19:30.29 | Thunder_Child | Nope, just you. |
| 19:30.47 | Unkle | I wondered why I had this itching between my shoulder blades. |
| 19:31.26 | kullervo | Bedbugs. |
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| 20:38.20 | fewyn | huh my profanity filter turned itself back on |
| 20:41.47 | Alram | stop cursing so much |
| 20:45.17 | Thunder_Child | Fuck that. |
| 20:46.55 | foxlit | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/opie#c498 << HTML so safe that link has an empty href. |
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| 21:05.24 | karl_w_ws | hearthstone ladder jam packed with fucking warriors |
| 21:06.45 | kullervo | lewd |
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| 21:33.34 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.45 | foxlit | though you probably canât guess what either does by its name :( |
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| 21:53.28 | nevcairiel | future means new API in 6.0? |
| 21:54.05 | nevcairiel | and legacy probably means API which used to exist, but thats kinda obscure |
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| 22:50.27 | foxlit | nevcairiel: yes and yes. Thinking about it some more, I should probably also get a âremoved in the futureâ category |
| 23:16.47 | nevcairiel | foxlit: english is default locale in luacasc now i assume? |
| 23:17.35 | foxlit | the default locale is equivalent to calling handle:setLocale(nil) |
| 23:18.04 | nevcairiel | i assumed that, but since that call existed i wasnt sure! |
| 23:19.07 | foxlit | itâs slightly complicated; if you point it at a deDE local install, the default will be german. |
| 23:19.19 | nevcairiel | what if i have both installed |
| 23:19.44 | nevcairiel | english i guess? |
| 23:20.26 | foxlit | GB if it is local; an arbitrary per-file local language otherwise. |
| 23:24.59 | foxlit | basically, unless you want GB downloaded from the cdn (and are not specifying a local installation), or the local language of a single-language installation, you should probably call setLocale. |
| 23:25.38 | nevcairiel | my local stuff is always english and up to date, so i'm probably fine |
| 23:25.44 | nevcairiel | but i might as well call it to be complete |
| 23:26.39 | foxlit | (you could also add it as an argument to the readFile calls, which saves a line at the expense of eternal vigilance) |
| 23:51.43 | Jamash | http://www.giantbomb.com/chat/ DESTINY |
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