| 00:08.49 | TC-Work | Maybe blizz is trying a social experiment to see how many people keep doing it. |
| 00:09.16 | Shirik | is this a particular object? |
| 00:11.18 | Semlar | picks up ebola |
| 00:11.50 | Semlar | neffi i got something for you |
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| 00:14.32 | hizuro | hm... 7 hours ago I've pushed an update (git/curseforge) for an addon and see no new package. is this normal? |
| 00:19.23 | Gnarfoz | depends on how your project is set up |
| 00:21.06 | Gnarfoz | (also, you'll possibly get an answer earlier in #wowace) |
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| 00:21.39 | livespink | hes a ninja :o |
| 00:22.18 | hizuro | this ninja has hacked the gibson :) |
| 00:22.45 | livespink | :P |
| 00:30.45 | Stanzilla | hizuro: ask Torhal |
| 00:30.59 | Torhal | hizuro: URL? |
| 00:31.07 | Torhal | Stanzilla: Always ask for the URL. |
| 00:31.08 | Torhal | :D |
| 00:31.16 | Stanzilla | ok |
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| 00:31.29 | Torhal | I keep seeing "Mah shit don werk!" and I have to ask "Who are you, and what are you even talking about?" |
| 00:32.32 | hizuro | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/followerlocationinfo/ |
| 00:33.51 | Torhal | hizuro: Packaging now. |
| 00:33.59 | Torhal | It's been evil since last November. :/ |
| 00:34.09 | Torhal | Just send me a PM if/when it happens again. |
| 00:34.30 | Torhal | hizuro: Actually, I take that back: Deciding to skip git repository: wow/followerlocationinfo/mainline, as not updated. |
| 00:35.07 | Semlar | packages torhal |
| 00:35.39 | Torhal | decompiles Semlar and integrates the resultant code into Neffi. |
| 00:36.01 | Semlar | becomes more powerful than you could possibly imagine |
| 00:36.02 | hizuro | interesting... git add . > git commit -m <text> > git tag ... and git push ... but where is my mistake? |
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| 00:37.06 | Torhal | hizuro: git push --tags |
| 00:38.02 | hizuro | one moment, i look into the bash_history ^^ |
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| 00:39.31 | hizuro | git push origin master tag <tag name> |
| 00:42.10 | Torhal | hizuro: Looks like it packaged 8 minutes ago |
| 00:42.21 | Torhal | r0003, which is a Beta |
| 00:42.24 | hizuro | i see... |
| 00:43.54 | Torhal | hizuro: It doesn't happen instantaneously, if that's what the problem was. Especially if there's a queue of othe rprojects; it isn't threaded. |
| 00:47.40 | hizuro | hmm... |
| 00:51.09 | Torhal | hizuro: Though I'm guessing that wasn't the issue, since I just saw in another channel that you said it had been 7 hours. |
| 00:51.14 | Torhal | :/ |
| 00:53.17 | hizuro | i'm just worried that i did something wrong with git and pkgmeta... |
| 00:54.30 | Torhal | hizuro: Nah, like I said - the packager has been randomly tempermental since last November. Once we get everything onto the new platform, that'll go away since I wrote a completely new packager. |
| 00:55.02 | hizuro | a queue i had expected with so many projects... :) |
| 00:55.04 | Gnarfoz | then we can finally blame you for everything and not even feel bad about it! :D |
| 00:55.26 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: Oh, I can make you feel worse on the new platform. |
| 00:55.28 | Torhal | Hellbans FTW. |
| 00:55.40 | Neffi | hellban? sounds scary |
| 00:55.49 | hizuro | lol |
| 00:55.50 | Torhal | You're banned and don't veen know it. |
| 00:55.55 | Torhal | s/veen/even/ |
| 00:56.02 | Gnarfoz | more commonly known as "coventry" |
| 00:56.05 | Neffi | wait, so everything appears to operate fine but it's all nop? |
| 00:56.18 | Torhal | Yeah. "Why doesn't anyone ever answer my forum posts?" |
| 00:56.24 | Gnarfoz | your posts are invisible to anyone but yourself |
| 00:56.27 | Neffi | how wicked! |
| 00:56.31 | Torhal | Heh. |
| 00:56.47 | phelps | Torhal: does your client auto sed corrections ? |
| 00:56.51 | phelps | Linkinus ? |
| 00:56.52 | Gnarfoz | either someone abandoned a child outside or the cats are having a fight again |
| 00:57.02 | Torhal | phelps: No, I typed s/veen/even/ |
| 00:57.10 | Torhal | The purl bot took care of the rest. |
| 00:57.18 | phelps | yeah, regular sed, but Linkinus does those inline |
| 00:57.19 | Gnarfoz | everyone loves purl |
| 00:57.21 | phelps | like magic |
| 00:57.23 | Gnarfoz | ~botsnack |
| 00:57.23 | purl | thanks, Gnarfoz |
| 00:57.28 | Torhal | Meh, I prefer Textual. |
| 00:57.36 | Torhal | Dropped Linkinius in '11 |
| 00:57.45 | phelps | when it was last updated, harharhar |
| 00:57.50 | Torhal | Heh |
| 01:02.23 | hizuro | yeah... beta realms are back online. it's time to camping in my garrison... ^^ |
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| 01:11.27 | ccox | beta realms restarting |
| 01:11.38 | ccox | (to fix the instadeath bug) |
| 01:13.22 | smcn | i'm sad i missed it |
| 01:13.26 | smcn | selling garrosh runs |
| 01:13.34 | smcn | oiops |
| 01:13.45 | hizuro | :D |
| 01:13.45 | phelps | yes |
| 01:33.45 | kd3|hate`net | and LA lets... how many runs score in the top of the 7th? geez |
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| 02:04.48 | smcn | hi |
| 02:04.56 | TC-Work | low |
| 02:05.04 | Arrowmaster | left |
| 02:05.25 | smcn | isn't it kind of weird how similar "high low" is to "hello"? |
| 02:05.38 | Shirik | right left right B A start? |
| 02:05.38 | TC-Work | No. |
| 02:05.57 | TC-Work | That is not the Contra code. |
| 02:07.41 | Shirik | TC-Work: I have a new question for you |
| 02:07.51 | TC-Work | Shirik: Shoot. |
| 02:08.42 | Shirik | So my spell list, I prepare a number of spells equal to WIS + level. That's pretty straightforward. |
| 02:09.05 | Shirik | On the character sheet, it has a little checkbox for "prepared". This seems to imply to me that I would write down more than just the prepared spells. |
| 02:09.07 | TC-Work | Also there seems to be no penalties for dual wielding, it's just that you never seem to get more iterative attacks and they both need to be light weapons. |
| 02:09.16 | Shirik | But I also don't see anything that says |
| 02:09.19 | TC-Work | Shirik: what are you? |
| 02:09.24 | Shirik | like "pick X number of spells" |
| 02:09.24 | Shirik | druid |
| 02:09.55 | Shirik | the character sheet also wouldn't fit all the spells for a given level if I were to put them there, so that seems wrong too |
| 02:10.04 | Arrowmaster | druid gets access to all druid spells but must pick which ones each day are prepared |
| 02:10.10 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: 5E |
| 02:10.26 | Arrowmaster | did they really fuck with it that much that what i said is wrong? |
| 02:10.31 | Shirik | that sounds right according to what I'm reading |
| 02:10.38 | TC-Work | Not sure, just saying don't make a blanket statement. |
| 02:10.39 | Shirik | but I don't understand what I'm supposed to put on the character sheet |
| 02:10.44 | Arrowmaster | character sheets never have enough room for all the spells |
| 02:10.50 | Shirik | like why is there a prepared checkbox? |
| 02:11.17 | Arrowmaster | so you can attempt to use it like that but not have enough room |
| 02:11.38 | Arrowmaster | ive always used premade sheets of all the spells for a chass |
| 02:11.39 | Shirik | so like if I just wanted to keep in mind that these spells are available or something? |
| 02:11.40 | Arrowmaster | class |
| 02:11.44 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 02:12.13 | TC-Work | Is this a Druid specifc sheet? |
| 02:12.17 | Shirik | no just the generic one |
| 02:12.28 | Arrowmaster | i doubt they have too many class specific sheets yet |
| 02:12.48 | TC-Work | Then it would be for classes that have a different spellcasting style. |
| 02:13.08 | Shirik | I guess I didn't think of that; I haven't really read the other classes in any level of detail |
| 02:13.19 | Shirik | I assumed spells worked generally the same |
| 02:13.29 | Shirik | I read cleric which happened to be the same |
| 02:13.30 | TC-Work | No, there are 2 general styles. |
| 02:13.30 | Arrowmaster | classes that use spellbooks only start with a limited number of known spells to prepare |
| 02:13.44 | Arrowmaster | TC-Work: 3 |
| 02:13.45 | TC-Work | Pre-meditated and spontanious. |
| 02:14.01 | TC-Work | spontaneous( |
| 02:14.04 | TC-Work | * |
| 02:14.18 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: which is the 3rd? |
| 02:14.27 | TC-Work | Hybrid would not count. |
| 02:14.43 | Arrowmaster | spontaneous divine is different from spontaneous arcane in known spells |
| 02:14.52 | TC-Work | But it's still the same style |
| 02:15.04 | Arrowmaster | yeah but big rule difference |
| 02:15.11 | TC-Work | But that's not what I said |
| 02:16.06 | TC-Work | Also, that would kinda be a hybrid since it's a spontaneous of one type of spell |
| 02:16.12 | TC-Work | Healing/Summon |
| 02:16.59 | Arrowmaster | i got that backwards sorry |
| 02:17.33 | Arrowmaster | and its too much effort to explain what i meant properly |
| 02:20.01 | Shirik | anyway thanks guys |
| 02:20.54 | Arrowmaster | you should try pathfinder once you get used to d&d |
| 02:21.25 | Shirik | all depends on who I have around, of course |
| 02:21.37 | Arrowmaster | that or one of the whitewolf games, those are super fun if you have the right group of friends |
| 02:21.53 | Shirik | I kinda live in the middle of nowhere so my options tend to be limited |
| 02:27.54 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: They may have done right by 5E and it's better than Pathfinder. |
| 02:28.00 | TC-Work | Shirik: there is always online. |
| 02:28.36 | Arrowmaster | ive never done online yet i know people that have only ever done online |
| 02:29.01 | TC-Work | I have done online once, it didn't last very long. |
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| 03:24.36 | Stanzilla | Simca_: are you still doing the fixed up version of MSBT? |
| 03:26.48 | Cairenn | http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/10/03/baby-elephant-fall_n_5927780.html |
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| 03:59.33 | Simca_ | Stanzilla: I will try to keep up with it, yeah |
| 04:02.35 | Stanzilla | Simca_: already did some spell adding/removing? |
| 04:03.31 | Simca_ | Not yet; only updated combat events, added multistrike, and replaced some outdated functions/enums |
| 04:03.52 | Simca_ | probably a good idea though, that message about removed spells is getting annoying every login |
| 04:04.01 | Stanzilla | yeah |
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| 05:35.32 | znf | Simca_, adding absorbs? |
| 05:35.40 | znf | or did you already? |
| 05:35.45 | znf | I kind of stopped using it a while ago :-/ |
| 05:36.38 | Simca_ | it has absorbs, though it may be missing one of the new 6.0 absorb events |
| 05:37.21 | znf | I remember Stanzilla saying that it doesn't do absorbs a while ago |
| 05:38.24 | Shirik | what the hell is the point of Adobe using Air for all their apps if they don't even have the same features cross-OS? |
| 05:39.46 | Simca_ | i'm pretty sure it has done absorbs for a long time, at least for all of MoP |
| 05:40.23 | Simca_ | i just checked and it definitely does them now anyway |
| 05:44.20 | Stanzilla | I think what I meant back then was when you give someone a shield it doesnt say +2243xx absorb |
| 05:44.21 | Stanzilla | iirc |
| 05:46.22 | Gethe | Simca_: i linked an update on that thread a while back adding MS absorbs |
| 05:46.53 | Simca_ | oh giving people buffs |
| 05:46.53 | Gethe | on mmoc |
| 05:47.23 | Simca_ | I probably included it in this version then |
| 05:48.40 | Simca_ | yeah, i am basing the changes i'm making now on your version; just fixing some remaining bugs in the options panel and getting rid of the removed spells |
| 05:50.19 | Gethe | are you taking over the project on curse? |
| 05:51.27 | Simca_ | i might. it depends on the problems people end up having with it and how much time i end up having |
| 05:52.05 | Gethe | fair enough |
| 05:55.31 | Simca_ | Yeah I would feel lame taking over a popular addon and then not addressing people's concerns |
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| 06:58.10 | mikma | oh the new sherlock is so good |
| 07:01.32 | Fisker | what new sherlock? |
| 07:03.24 | Stanzilla | Simca_: would like a download link when you are done please |
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| 07:06.17 | Simca_ | Stanzilla: http://www.mediafire.com/download/ij9l9jfpjes8ek6/MSBT-WoD-Beta-r5.zip |
| 07:09.31 | mikma | fisker: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1475582/ |
| 07:09.55 | Stanzilla | thanks |
| 07:10.43 | mikma | http://www.tvrage.com/Sherlock |
| 07:10.51 | mikma | people really love it |
| 07:13.08 | Stanzilla | awesome show |
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| 07:18.01 | Mr_Rabies | arrow is my jam |
| 07:18.05 | Mr_Rabies | season 3 starting soon |
| 07:18.12 | Mr_Rabies | flash season 1 looks to be good |
| 07:18.30 | Mr_Rabies | the pilot was fun |
| 07:18.38 | mikma | yah |
| 07:19.11 | Mr_Rabies | though every time i see this i can't help but think arrow season 3 is gonna be crazy http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/12/30/andrew-frey-meth-masturbating_n_4518225.html |
| 07:21.52 | Stanzilla | is he an actor or why |
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| 08:14.11 | foxlit | now does the battle.net agent find out which new build to download? |
| 08:14.20 | foxlit | s/n/h/ |
| 08:14.43 | Fisker | jleclanche might know foxlit |
| 08:14.57 | Fisker | But I think it's similar to how patches work? |
| 08:15.01 | nevcairiel | he is swedish now, he doesn't know things anymore |
| 08:16.01 | foxlit | thatâs also an acceptable question; Iâm assuming thereâs a specific cdn url somewhere that updates. |
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| 08:28.08 | Fisker | oh my lord jleclanche |
| 08:28.10 | Fisker | I can't breathe |
| 08:28.12 | Fisker | I CAN'T BREATHE |
| 08:28.41 | Semlar | tries to calm fisker down |
| 08:28.44 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/F8x4sTt.jpg |
| 08:28.45 | Fisker | oh god |
| 08:28.51 | Fisker | That is so fucking perfect |
| 08:28.59 | Alram | dedwinge |
| 08:29.28 | Fisker | ITT: I wish I had shadowplay enabled |
| 08:29.47 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/0pgxGsw.jpg <-10/10 BM |
| 08:30.32 | Fisker | Though 9/10 should've soulfired myself before attacking but it was too late when I saw it pop up :( |
| 08:30.58 | foxlit | psst, shouldâve silenced the harvest token. |
| 08:31.41 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 08:31.54 | Fisker | Should've tapped first, 2x abusive the harvest, then silenced it then soulfired his face |
| 08:31.55 | Fisker | :D |
| 08:32.29 | Fisker | Also to my defense he did go "Sorry that happened" before playing |
| 08:32.32 | Fisker | so he totally deserved it |
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| 08:35.32 | Mr_Rabies | <Stanzilla> is he an actor or why |
| 08:35.43 | Mr_Rabies | he looks a lot like Paul Blackthorne, who plays Detective Lance in Arrow |
| 08:37.52 | Semlar | "That guy was doing some serious multitasking. " |
| 08:45.46 | Neffi | Semlar: can you lift this curse that's waking me up at the ungodly hour of 4 am? |
| 08:46.20 | nevcairiel | just go to sleep at 4:01, then this chance isnt that high |
| 08:46.25 | Semlar | no neffi |
| 08:46.35 | Semlar | we're syncing up |
| 08:46.50 | Neffi | <_< |
| 08:47.13 | Semlar | i got like 2.5 hours of sleep |
| 08:47.21 | Neffi | also I gave some website the ingedients I have in and it spat out a recipe for peanut butter fudge that sounds amazing. I think I'm gonna go burn my house down in a lil bit trying to make this |
| 08:47.51 | nevcairiel | sounds like a plan |
| 08:48.00 | Semlar | you mean it didn't just tell you to dump all the ingredients in a blender? |
| 08:48.10 | Neffi | unfortuneately, not |
| 08:49.09 | Neffi | wait, I can't trust this site. the recipe for peanut butter cookies is literally peanut butter + sugar |
| 08:49.17 | Neffi | that wouldn't work man |
| 08:49.21 | Semlar | that's all it takes |
| 08:49.25 | nevcairiel | how do you know! |
| 08:49.45 | Neffi | nevcairiel: ever tried to heat up peanut butter? it melts and goes everywhere |
| 08:49.54 | nevcairiel | thats what the sugar is for, duh |
| 08:49.59 | Neffi | <_< |
| 08:50.12 | nevcairiel | also no, PB is a american thing, we dont eat such stuff |
| 08:50.22 | Neffi | heathen |
| 08:51.52 | Constie | This was pretty enjoyable: http://i.imgur.com/qUcVgOI.jpg |
| 08:51.58 | Neffi | well imagine trying to do the same with nutella |
| 08:52.38 | Semlar | you can make gluten free peanut butter cookies with basically just peanut butter, sugar and probably an egg |
| 08:53.14 | Neffi | Semlar: I think the classic recipe is pb+sugar+egg+butter |
| 08:53.25 | Neffi | many people dont use flour, I believe |
| 08:53.25 | Semlar | the classic recipe undoubtedly calls for flour |
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| 08:54.01 | Neffi | I wouldn't know. My specialty is *eating* desserts |
| 08:54.13 | Semlar | i've done some baking |
| 08:54.30 | Neffi | yeah I love cooking, but I'm definitely no expert at it |
| 08:54.53 | Semlar | baking is more science, cooking is an art |
| 08:55.08 | Constie | Baking is great. Cheap delicious things that you don't have to go outside for, and also your kitchen smells good after. |
| 08:55.17 | Neffi | mearsuring ingredients doesn't make you a scientist, Semlar |
| 08:56.10 | Dashkal | Sure it is. Lots of science is boring rote labwork |
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| 08:57.23 | Semlar | you can't have any cookies neffi |
| 08:57.45 | Neffi_ | <Dashkal> Sure it is. Lots of science is boring rote labwork <- the distinction is whether or not you're kissing somebody's ass |
| 08:58.21 | Dashkal | I suppose that depends on if the baking is for bribery purposes |
| 08:58.35 | Neffi_ | Semlar: now that you said that, I'm literally going to walk to the store to buy cookies, so I can laugh maniacally as I eat them |
| 08:58.53 | nevcairiel | your cookie stores are open at 4am? |
| 08:59.02 | Semlar | i only use baking for good, not evil |
| 08:59.04 | Constie | Now I want to go buy cookies, too. |
| 08:59.13 | Neffi_ | This is NY. There's 4 places within walking distance. One is a supermarket. |
| 08:59.18 | Dashkal | I have a nearby 24hr 7 11 I could hit. not as good though |
| 08:59.26 | Neffi_ | 2 others probably have fresh baked cookies coming out now |
| 08:59.51 | Semlar | just because they're baking at this ungodly hour doesn't mean they're open |
| 08:59.53 | Neffi_ | oh, 5 places, forgot about 7/11 |
| 09:00.03 | Dashkal | Wow broke me... I seriously think like this: "I have the mats to just bake some at home right now." |
| 09:00.16 | Neffi_ | haha |
| 09:03.24 | Semlar | neffi gimme some modular codestuff |
| 09:04.38 | Neffi_ | assert(nil == nil) |
| 09:05.31 | Semlar | i need to rewrite this thing |
| 09:09.45 | Neffi_ | I guess cookies arent happening. It's raining out D: |
| 09:12.11 | Semlar | i guess you'll have to settle for eating nutella with a spoon |
| 09:13.49 | Neffi_ | i dont even have nutella |
| 09:14.03 | Semlar | peanut butter? |
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| 09:42.00 | bluspacecow | *holds up wowinterface t-shirt* |
| 09:42.02 | bluspacecow | is clean! |
| 09:42.03 | bluspacecow | :3 |
| 09:42.11 | Semlar | not for long |
| 09:49.44 | Neffi_ | spills peanut butter all over bluspacecow's tshirt |
| 09:50.50 | bluspacecow | gasp! |
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| 10:05.09 | karl_w_w | hey bluspacecow |
| 10:05.16 | karl_w_w | bring me the sword of exact 0 |
| 10:05.20 | bluspacecow | âsup |
| 10:05.22 | bluspacecow | wat |
| 10:05.32 | bluspacecow | =| |
| 10:05.37 | bluspacecow | dang it |
| 10:05.48 | bluspacecow | that was meant to be a sword hilt |
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| 10:19.08 | Simca_ | foxlit meant: how does the battle.net agent find out which new build to download? |
| 10:19.14 | Simca_ | http://us.patch.battle.net:1119/wow_beta/versions |
| 10:19.17 | Simca_ | http://us.patch.battle.net:1119/wow_beta/cdns |
| 10:19.57 | foxlit | Ah, not port 80. That explains things. |
| 10:20.02 | Simca_ | cdns tells you what domain to look, versions gives you the rest of the path |
| 10:20.29 | Simca_ | url scheme is standard blizzard hex notation for files i.e. /first2hex/second2hex/entirehexstring |
| 10:20.36 | foxlit | yes, I have the rest. |
| 10:20.41 | Simca_ | k |
| 10:20.53 | foxlit | basically wanted to avoid requiring a bootstrap from .boot.info. |
| 10:20.59 | foxlit | s/.boot/.build/ |
| 10:21.00 | bluspacecow | PTR is on /wowt/ |
| 10:21.17 | Simca_ | that's a good approach, most of the community tools are based on requiring the battle.net app's data |
| 10:21.20 | bluspacecow | foxlit port 80 should work too |
| 10:21.22 | Simca_ | or at least its files |
| 10:21.28 | bluspacecow | as :1119 doesnât work at work :( |
| 10:21.35 | Simca_ | a real solution doesn't need -anything- from the battle.net app to function properly |
| 10:27.46 | Simca_ | i don't know if port 80 works or not, i tend to use 1119 for everything because the app uses it for everything, and there are times that blizzard pages are set to reject your connection if you don't have the user-agent set as 'Battle.net Agent' and are connecting from 1119 |
| 10:28.15 | Simca_ | like the patch notes urls - they will display nothing if you have the wrong user agent |
| 10:28.28 | bluspacecow | I go through a proxy at work thats all. Port 1119 isnât open there. |
| 10:28.37 | bluspacecow | IE displays it fine :P |
| 10:30.39 | Simca_ | https://us.battle.net/connect/en/app/d3/patch-notes an example of a page that requires a user agent |
| 10:30.47 | Simca_ | a specific user agent* |
| 10:31.24 | Semlar | spoofs simca |
| 10:35.32 | bluspacecow | interesting. I see you point Simca. |
| 10:35.41 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:35.53 | bluspacecow | s/you/your |
| 10:40.38 | jleclanche | foxlit: the battle.net agent makes an xml query to the battle.net servers |
| 10:40.50 | jleclanche | foxlit: if you run it from a console you can even see the back and forth |
| 10:45.12 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/FsSbpdr.jpg <-You g-g-gotta be kidding me |
| 10:50.11 | Fisker | one mana more and I would've had a 9/9 blood knight :( |
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| 11:09.15 | Torhal | recuses Fisker from meaningful interaction with anything. |
| 11:10.21 | bluspacecow | http://articles.latimes.com/2004/nov/04/world/fg-lion4 |
| 11:10.30 | bluspacecow | this has to be a joke |
| 11:11.29 | Maldivia | why... people are crazy... (even 10 years ago) |
| 11:11.38 | Fisker | yay Torhal |
| 11:11.42 | Fisker | Had the greatest arena deck |
| 11:11.49 | Fisker | and had all 3 losses due to me playing in the wrong order |
| 11:11.50 | Fisker | ;_; |
| 11:13.21 | Torhal | The lion was in an extreme state of disbelief. Jesus WILL save you, bluspacecow. |
| 11:13.26 | Torhal | Some day. |
| 11:13.30 | Torhal | Dome day. |
| 11:13.41 | Fisker | First one was killing a beast and sending a 3/3 into a now 4 health hyena, second one was killing somebody with a higher attack/health minion even though I knew it was either redemption (or more likely avenge) and the third was playing a mercenary then a mana wyrm(which I couldn't play due to mana cost) and then he had fucking repetenance on it |
| 11:13.51 | Fisker | ;_; |
| 11:14.26 | Torhal | Clearly, Fisker, you need to eschew order and just Fucking Do Things. |
| 11:15.00 | Torhal | We should flense bluspacecow for this abject failure. |
| 11:15.02 | bluspacecow | neigh Torhal |
| 11:15.03 | bluspacecow | fisker |
| 11:15.08 | bluspacecow | FISKER WILL SAVE YOU |
| 11:15.11 | bluspacecow | with his almighty - |
| 11:15.17 | Torhal | FLENSING |
| 11:15.23 | bluspacecow | of |
| 11:15.29 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 11:15.35 | Fisker | are you going to blizzcon? |
| 11:15.42 | Fisker | Because I'm going to fuck you |
| 11:15.45 | bluspacecow | *cocks head to side* |
| 11:15.47 | bluspacecow | nah |
| 11:15.53 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 11:15.55 | Fisker | fuck you up of course |
| 11:15.58 | bluspacecow | airline fuel still too much |
| 11:16.17 | Torhal | Seriously, Fisker? You should know by now that bluspacecow doesn't simply go to BlizzCon. |
| 11:16.39 | bluspacecow | I sometimes teleport there |
| 11:16.48 | Torhal | He's too busy being an Australian. |
| 11:16.59 | bluspacecow | but the heisenberg stabilisers nanoprobes are too expensive |
| 11:17.03 | Torhal | As Ackis would say, at any rate. |
| 11:17.12 | bluspacecow | where is that Mexican anyway |
| 11:17.49 | Torhal | No idea, bluspacecow. However, you might want to F5 this for a bit to gain perspective: http://bullshit.srsfckn.biz/ |
| 11:26.19 | karl_w_w | bluspacecow, the lion guy's name was Chen |
| 11:26.30 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 11:26.43 | karl_w_w | obviously he was trying to take control of the lions, much as his Dota 2 namesake would |
| 11:28.46 | Fisker | hey Torhal |
| 11:28.52 | Fisker | Looking forward to Blizzcon? |
| 11:32.37 | bluspacecow | Bliiz Kahn! |
| 11:32.51 | Fisker | KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN |
| 11:33.00 | bluspacecow | BBL need to go eat |
| 11:34.40 | Simca_ | I know you can Equip items outside of combat just fine via addon code without any input from the user... but can you 'use' items outside of combat without user input too? |
| 11:35.11 | nevcairiel | dont think so, it should fall under the same rules as spell casting |
| 11:35.28 | nevcairiel | at the very least need a hardware event, at worst be fully protected |
| 11:35.34 | Simca_ | RIP Auto Safari Hat most likely |
| 11:35.55 | Simca_ | they 'helped' everyone by making it a usable item instead of a real hat |
| 11:36.28 | nevcairiel | you might be able to do it with a hardware event |
| 11:37.21 | Simca_ | unless it counts when i hook on to another function that requires a hardware event (like movement), that would really defeat the point of the addon |
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| 11:37.57 | nevcairiel | depends, starting a pet battle requires a hardware event anyway, so you could try to do it at the same time |
| 11:39.03 | Simca_ | unfortunately it's not that simple - the hat has to be on 'fully' before the battle starts, and that almost never happens if you hook the interact functions or respond to start of battle events |
| 11:39.41 | Simca_ | it was actually a huge puzzle figuring out what the rules of the hat were in the first place, so i'm sure this solution is better for normal users, but... my poor addon |
| 11:57.58 | Torhal | hey Fisker |
| 11:58.16 | Torhal | Looking forward to abducting Ackis? |
| 11:58.32 | Fisker | is he going? |
| 11:58.38 | Torhal | Naw. |
| 11:58.39 | nevcairiel | Simca_: those rules may change when the item changes from a hat to a buff, tho |
| 11:58.42 | Fisker | Then no |
| 11:58.59 | Torhal | You could contract Simca_ for it. |
| 11:59.17 | Fisker | I want Simca_ contracted to attend blizzcon |
| 11:59.53 | Torhal | I don't see that in the cards. I also don't see cards. |
| 12:01.38 | Fisker | I once saw cards |
| 12:01.43 | Torhal | You could always launch a "Have Simca_ abduct Ackis for BlizzCon" Kickstarter campaign. |
| 12:02.23 | Fisker | nah Torhal |
| 12:02.30 | Torhal | One of the stretch goals could be "Ackis will drycode a feature for you." |
| 12:02.43 | nevcairiel | why would i want that |
| 12:03.04 | Torhal | No idea, nevcairiel - this is Fisker's thing. |
| 12:03.16 | Fisker | nah Torhal |
| 12:03.20 | Fisker | it was your idea |
| 12:03.39 | Torhal | Doesn't matter; I'll never go beyond the Idea Phase. |
| 12:03.46 | Fisker | If I'd contract Simca_ to abduct somebody to blizzcon I would choose Lopeppeppy over Ackis |
| 12:03.46 | Torhal | It all depends on you. |
| 12:03.55 | Fisker | Could do both though |
| 12:04.01 | Torhal | Yup. |
| 12:05.12 | Torhal | So. |
| 12:05.15 | Fisker | also Shirik |
| 12:05.48 | Torhal | Since SolidIce is scraping my GPL shit from Curse, I added this to the description for Archy: |
| 12:05.53 | Torhal | "If you care at all about my wishes, you won't download this AddOn from SolidIce: They are leeching it from the site I actually choose to put it on." |
| 12:06.23 | nevcairiel | you are so evil |
| 12:06.34 | nevcairiel | just do what we all do and screw licensing, just ARR everything |
| 12:06.35 | Torhal | Completely. |
| 12:08.06 | Industrial | http://www.twitch.tv/2ndustrial owning some skies in Robocraft its big lol |
| 12:08.56 | Fisker | Torhal you should figure out how to make the site only download directly from solidice |
| 12:09.09 | Fisker | That would be fun |
| 12:09.25 | Torhal | Naw, Fisker - I'd rathe contract you to kill them, like you did to a guy noce. |
| 12:09.30 | Fisker | yeah |
| 12:09.41 | Torhal | Wow. Typing. It's difficult. |
| 12:09.48 | Fisker | Hitlers gonna hitle |
| 12:09.53 | Industrial | heh owned :X |
| 12:11.05 | Torhal | I still have seven cats, Cairenn. I don't see any change to that situation. |
| 12:12.39 | Fisker | gives Torhal's 7 cats to Cairenn |
| 12:12.41 | Fisker | There |
| 12:12.42 | Fisker | solved |
| 12:12.52 | Torhal | Now I'm sad. |
| 12:13.13 | Fisker | gives his own 5 cats to Torhal |
| 12:13.27 | Fisker | Now I'm sad :( |
| 12:13.46 | Torhal | Still sad. Actually moreso. Abandoned cats. :/ |
| 12:13.58 | Fisker | :( |
| 12:14.22 | Fisker | There are sadder stories regarding cats |
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| 12:24.03 | Torhal | I blame Arrowmaster, Fisker. He did nothing to stop this. |
| 12:24.51 | Torhal | Actually, fuck that. I blame Industrial for playing Robocraft instead of saving kittens. |
| 12:25.09 | Industrial | you like my tank to plane conversion? |
| 12:25.30 | Industrial | if the wings get shot off, It's still a tank in your face :D |
| 12:25.30 | Neffi_ | trippy |
| 12:25.34 | Neffi_ | I watched you type that |
| 12:25.41 | Industrial | ;) |
| 12:25.42 | Torhal | Missed that - I killed the tab after 10 minutes. |
| 12:26.42 | Torhal | watched Neffi_ and wondered why he has a tail. |
| 12:27.09 | Neffi_ | Torhal: that's not a tail.... |
| 12:27.39 | Torhal | Ok, Neffi_ - whatever makes you sleep well. |
| 12:27.56 | Neffi_ | <_< |
| 12:33.25 | Industrial | :D |
| 12:35.43 | Fisker | I died Torhal |
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| 13:03.50 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ5AgAPJyAg rofl |
| 13:10.41 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: what did i not do? |
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| 14:06.41 | Ackis | Fisker has 5 cats? |
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| 14:15.35 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Something involving cats. |
| 14:21.10 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 14:51.18 | kd3 | eesh, it's fall. got down to the 40s this morning |
| 14:52.58 | foxlit | hey, success, I can pull down individual in-CASC files by virtual filename from the CDN. |
| 14:56.59 | Fisker | hey casc |
| 14:57.04 | Fisker | damnit foxlit |
| 14:57.06 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 14:57.19 | Fisker | Stop doing buffer overflow on my brain ;_; |
| 14:57.20 | bluspacecow | Ackis: Heyo Mexican |
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| 15:17.52 | karl_w_w | Fisker, how do you pronounce Troels? |
| 15:19.09 | Fisker | I don't even know a word of of the top of my head to describe it |
| 15:20.13 | Fisker | It's Tro-els but the o isn't like "oh" or "door" |
| 15:21.04 | Fisker | It's like you would say o without the "oh" sound |
| 15:22.36 | Fisker | Also not like oooh |
| 15:23.02 | Fisker | <- useless :P |
| 15:23.26 | karl_w_w | so it's like a very short "oh"? |
| 15:25.57 | Fisker | Maybe |
| 15:26.34 | Fisker | http://www.forvo.com/word/troels/ |
| 15:26.40 | Fisker | Fuck that, Google |
| 15:27.48 | karl_w_w | ah |
| 15:27.58 | karl_w_w | it's 'trawls' without the w |
| 15:45.55 | jleclanche | Dagmar, Arrowmaster: either of you seen this before? http://serverfault.com/questions/550727/terminal-output-not-updating-display-until-enter-key-pressed |
| 15:46.05 | jleclanche | im hit by it on a linode instance and its extremely annoying |
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| 16:18.10 | VIad | CHEAT http://ss.bool.no/capture_1412439453.png |
| 16:18.17 | VIad | 3rd party hacking |
| 16:22.47 | Neffi | ice cold rum + pokemon. hell yeah |
| 16:23.13 | Neffi | who wants to join? |
| 16:30.06 | Neffi | Hmm, Chikorita, Cyndaquil or Totodile? |
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| 16:37.37 | phelps | Cairenn: was I too late to the party for the wod betas |
| 16:46.53 | Shirik | VIad: I had always wondered what would happen in that case |
| 16:47.08 | VIad | :p |
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| 17:38.41 | Shirik | "max length for password is 16" WHY |
| 17:39.03 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 17:39.14 | Shirik | also amusing: max length for password is ACTUALLY 15 good job testing your website |
| 17:39.22 | phelps | "password must only contain numbers and letters" |
| 17:44.11 | smcn | probably old news but oh man windows 9x programmers were dumb: http://www.cnet.com/news/is-this-why-microsoft-named-it-windows-10/ |
| 17:44.51 | Neffi | s/dumb/"clever"/ |
| 17:45.57 | phelps | haha |
| 17:46.33 | Shirik | what do you mean "were"? |
| 17:46.47 | Shirik | People are STILL saving shit to the Program Files directory, and telling their users to grant admin rights so they can |
| 17:48.36 | Fisker | Yep |
| 17:49.51 | smcn | yeeeeah |
| 17:50.00 | Neffi | what, like wow.exe? |
| 17:50.39 | smcn | that's why i stopped installing stuff to program files |
| 17:50.58 | smcn | seems superfluous anyways |
| 17:54.44 | kullervo | I install stuff to program files because it's conveniently on an SSD and default location for most everything |
| 18:11.03 | Fisker | btw jleclanche did you see my screenshot earlier? :P |
| 18:11.53 | jleclanche | Fisker: the deathwing one? nice |
| 18:12.01 | Fisker | Yeah :P |
| 18:12.20 | Fisker | had a pretty cool mage deck in arena |
| 18:12.24 | jleclanche | Fisker: help me get my bluetooth-pulseaudio issues fixe |
| 18:12.28 | Fisker | lost all 3 games to me doing stuff in the wrong order :( |
| 18:12.43 | Fisker | I don't even pulseaudio |
| 18:12.52 | Fisker | Or desktop linux for that matter |
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| 18:54.44 | karl_w_w | is it basically impossible to get a thread upvoted on the larger subreddits? |
| 18:56.07 | Semlar | only if it's a repost |
| 18:56.10 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: sure its possible. get a botnet |
| 18:56.44 | karl_w_w | seems like the only way to do it is to risk a shadow ban |
| 18:59.40 | zenzelezz | stop making such bad posts and I'm sure you'll get upvotes :) |
| 19:01.11 | karl_w_w | it's a really good post! |
| 19:01.22 | karl_w_w | there's none like it and it has high quality content |
| 19:01.37 | karl_w_w | there's research and shit and it's useful to people |
| 19:02.10 | Semlar | oh well it definitely won't get upvoted like that |
| 19:02.18 | Semlar | have you considered posting a picture of a cat? |
| 19:03.05 | Neffi | karl_w_w: find out the topic this particular subreddit circlejerks to. Then you have two options. Either go all out in favor of this topic to perpetuate the circlejerk, or call them out on their bullshit with a well-informed post to the contrary |
| 19:03.13 | Neffi | The 2nd option is very risky but occasionally strikes gold |
| 19:03.18 | karl_w_w | :P |
| 19:03.32 | karl_w_w | well sadly my primary aim is not the upvotes |
| 19:03.42 | Neffi | then you're on the wrong site, friend |
| 19:04.12 | Neffi | posts a picture of Semlar in a cat costume |
| 19:04.19 | Semlar | where did you get that |
| 19:04.30 | Semlar | DAMMIT CLOUD |
| 19:04.39 | Neffi | when you go to sleep I'm under your bed |
| 19:05.36 | Semlar | neffi scrollframes don't render children on separate levels any more |
| 19:05.44 | Semlar | this is supremely annoying |
| 19:07.04 | Semlar | i put all my nameplates in a scrollframe on live so they would all appear under everything else but also distinct from each other |
| 19:07.18 | Semlar | and on the beta their different elements overlap |
| 19:07.25 | Neffi | that's not how you strata man |
| 19:07.41 | Semlar | good fucking luck trying to get two frames not to overlap their contents |
| 19:08.01 | Neffi | frame level? |
| 19:08.23 | Neffi | also you can enforce z-level policy by clever parenting |
| 19:08.42 | Neffi | if you don't explicitly fuck with frame levels, a child should always appear above its parent |
| 19:08.57 | Neffi | I wrote a lib that creates on-the-fly containers for this |
| 19:09.09 | Semlar | i guarantee it won't work |
| 19:09.19 | Neffi | I guarantee it does. Been using it for a while |
| 19:09.28 | Neffi | Works, at least, for my unit frames |
| 19:10.17 | Semlar | if you took two of those unit frames and put them on top of each other, their font strings and textures of one frame should all completely appear under the other one |
| 19:11.08 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/KfIMB5x.jpg this is how frames work by default |
| 19:11.09 | Neffi | yes.. what else would you want? |
| 19:11.39 | Semlar | where their separate elements overlap separately |
| 19:12.27 | Neffi | Semlar, should I catch this Ekans? |
| 19:13.03 | kullervo | Neffi: nah too common |
| 19:13.11 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/IsIkvdF.gif this is how it works on the beta, where the NUMBER on one frame can overlap the NAME on another frame but still be under that frame's number |
| 19:13.23 | Neffi | nice flicker |
| 19:13.27 | smcn | you are required to capture every pocket monster |
| 19:14.07 | Semlar | and the beta is down so i can't do anything |
| 19:14.21 | karl_w_w | beta down: life on pause |
| 19:14.56 | Unkle | New guild on live servers <Beta is Down Griefing Here> |
| 19:22.00 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure the strata of the regions just ignores the frame levels and causes them to overlap lower-strata elements on different frames |
| 19:22.34 | Semlar | which means setting every nameplate to a different frame level, which would be a pain anyway, wouldn't fix this |
| 19:24.25 | foxlit | It sounds like what youâre saying is âAll layering everywhere, except for frame stratas, is broken" |
| 19:25.17 | Semlar | it certainly doesn't lend itself to my design |
| 19:25.30 | Semlar | which works great on live because scrollframes render their contents differently |
| 19:25.41 | Semlar | but they no longer do that on the beta |
| 19:26.20 | foxlit | or is it âLayering works the same as it always did, but now scrollframes arenât special snowflakes?â |
| 19:26.27 | Semlar | pretty much |
| 19:26.42 | Semlar | since you don't appear to be able to do this with the normal system without getting creative |
| 19:27.40 | Semlar | let's say you have a frame with a background and a border |
| 19:27.58 | Semlar | the background is rendered on the background layer and the border is rendered on the overlay layer |
| 19:28.19 | Semlar | if you put that frame on top of another identical frame, their god damn borders will overlap the other frame's background |
| 19:28.47 | Semlar | they don't respect the fact that they're separate entities |
| 19:28.54 | Semlar | and it looks really bad |
| 19:29.45 | foxlit | donât frame levels fix that, so that problem should be limited to frames at the same level? |
| 19:30.57 | Semlar | setting every frame to a different level may or may not work (assuming no other frame in the interface is the same frame level) |
| 19:31.16 | Semlar | but since they're nameplates, they all need to be rendered behind everything else |
| 19:31.32 | Semlar | setting each one to a different level will cause them to appear over other frames |
| 19:31.44 | foxlit | donât frame stratas fix that? |
| 19:31.49 | Semlar | nope |
| 19:32.13 | Semlar | they'll appear over anything on the same strata |
| 19:32.42 | Semlar | i'd like them to appear under the entire interface |
| 19:32.44 | foxlit | that counts as âfixing thatâ to me; there simply shouldnât be anything else in that strata that doesnât want to collide with them. |
| 19:33.07 | Semlar | you just end up with nameplates overlapping the backgrounds of elements and stuff |
| 19:33.36 | foxlit | are you confusing the BACKGROUND strata for the BACKGROUND layer? |
| 19:33.55 | Semlar | anyway, every time a new nameplate is shown it needs to be set to the highest frame level |
| 19:34.22 | Semlar | so either every other nameplate now needs to be moved down a frame level or the frame levels go on forever |
| 19:35.07 | Semlar | but frame levels have a cap so i guess they'll have to be looped over and moved down |
| 19:37.30 | foxlit | There are likely more frame levels than simultanious nameplates; reserve a chunk of frame level space and manage that. |
| 19:44.03 | Semlar | in what possible situation would i want SOME of the elements of one frame overlapping SOME of the elements of another frame |
| 19:44.15 | Semlar | why is this the default draw method |
| 20:04.03 | Semlar | looks like the chat frame is on the background strata so i'd have to move it if i didn't want it getting covered by nameplates |
| 20:05.32 | mikma | http://youtu.be/CF2o5RDkq9A |
| 20:13.01 | Simca_ | https://twitter.com/Zorbrix/status/518457790205947904 amazing |
| 20:17.21 | nevcairiel | kd3's automatic diff bot surely is down again, new build is being deployed and the last didnt even get a mail yet :p |
| 20:18.26 | kullervo | Simca_: obviously drawn by someone who doesn't have long hair |
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| 20:38.59 | foxlit | Semlar: why is this the default draw method << one word: performance. |
| 20:39.29 | foxlit | Same reason wowâs opacity implementation is broken-by-design. |
| 21:11.55 | Semlar | foxlit: yeah, it's unfortunate that it doesn't merge the layers when you change their alpha |
| 21:15.35 | Thunder_Child | kd3: That is one hell of a number jump for 2 differences. |
| 21:20.40 | Primer | bah, the fucking beta realms are down every time I decide to work on my addons |
| 21:21.18 | Simca_ | yeah |
| 21:21.28 | Simca_ | they've been down ~8 hours per day every day for the last 6 days |
| 21:21.42 | Simca_ | as blizzard desparately tries to find a working release candidate build |
| 21:26.32 | nevcairiel | they surely have a list of known things that need fixing, but they want to avoid introducing any new glaring bugs and not noticing them soon enough, so a quick turn-around makes sense for that |
| 21:28.51 | Semlar | bugs nevcairiel |
| 21:29.28 | nevcairiel | I'm already bugged, and my built-in maintenance is working too slow |
| 21:30.20 | Semlar | can you inspect "stats" of another player |
| 21:30.26 | Semlar | like achievement stats |
| 21:30.44 | Semlar | from the stats tab |
| 21:30.56 | Simca_ | yeah but it makes me think 6.0 might fall back from the 14th because they like to have a week+ of testing on -one- build before live |
| 21:33.15 | nevcairiel | it was never confirmed by anyone as the release day anyway |
| 21:33.50 | Simca_ | it was their target date |
| 21:34.02 | Primer | I'm taking the opportunity to migrate one of my smaller addons from svn to git. I'm following this guide here: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/repositories/convert-svn-to-git/ Thing is, on the git svn clone command, the word project...should that be the slug? |
| 21:34.06 | Primer | Or literally the word project? |
| 21:34.56 | foxlit | guess: slug; and you should also replace âgameâ with something reasonable. |
| 21:35.10 | Primer | right, I have the URL from svn info |
| 21:35.36 | Primer | and the example uses the word project in the URL where the slug would be, so... |
| 21:36.00 | Primer | and git-svn isn't installed... |
| 21:41.11 | Primer | oh, nice. Now when the cygwin installer can't replace cygwin.dll, it offers to kill the processes holding it open |
| 21:44.27 | Industrial | more robocraft! |
| 21:44.52 | Industrial | Anyone else play? http://www.twitch.tv/2ndustrial |
| 21:44.57 | foxlit | http://pastebin.com/d8Aq0KT9 << how do I API? |
| 21:47.04 | Simca_ | oh foxlit one thing I would make sure you account for in the cdns file |
| 21:47.12 | foxlit | or perhaps http://pastebin.com/bctzn2bL ; lack of consistency is annoying :( |
| 21:47.25 | Simca_ | is that the last field can have spaces, which denote alternate download domains |
| 21:47.58 | Simca_ | typically they're only on the line for china but they broke some of our tools in the past by putting them on other lines when we weren't prepared to parse spaces there |
| 21:48.03 | foxlit | basically doing plat.url("http://", c.Hosts:match("%S+"), c.Path) |
| 21:49.35 | foxlit | I think us/eu also have two hosts at the moment. |
| 21:51.15 | Simca_ | ah, yeah |
| 21:57.17 | Semlar | how slow would it be to run an achievement inspect on an entire raid |
| 21:59.21 | Simca_ | couple of seconds or so |
| 21:59.39 | Simca_ | there is a small addon on curse that does it. very useful for old world raids and determining who needs what |
| 22:00.25 | Simca_ | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/achievement-check |
| 22:01.15 | Semlar | probably not practical to do it after every fight |
| 22:02.30 | Semlar | i was thinking you could make a dps meter that used basically no resources during a fight by checking the damage statistic |
| 22:03.23 | nevcairiel | most damage meters appreciate more information than pure raw dps |
| 22:03.34 | nevcairiel | although i suppose those e-peen people might be happy |
| 22:03.48 | tz | someone mentioned e-peen? |
| 22:09.31 | Primer | ok, turns out that last argument didn't matter. It's just the directory name is cloned svn into |
| 22:09.37 | Primer | s/is/it/ |
| 22:10.42 | Primer | I kinda wish I knew more about git going into this. Right now "git branch" just shows "master", yet "git branch -r" shows master as green and all the tags and a branch named trunk as red |
| 22:12.20 | Simca_ | git is very confusing to me. it sounds simple enough, but every time i try to do something, it complains i'm not using the right switches or entering the right commands |
| 22:12.50 | Simca_ | even something as simple as pulling the files from the repo and placing them over my existing files is like 3 commands |
| 22:12.58 | Simca_ | in mercurial it is 1 command it never complains to me |
| 22:13.02 | Simca_ | and it* |
| 22:14.15 | Primer | I've been reading up on git and I like a lot of its concepts. It's much better, conceptually, than svn |
| 22:15.06 | Primer | I just need to figure out things like making a branch, pushing that to a central repo, then checking out that branch in another location |
| 22:15.23 | Primer | Since I'll likely be working on the same branch on up to 3 different machines |
| 22:17.00 | nevcairiel | thats easy |
| 22:19.24 | Primer | I know the same thing is possible in svn, but you can't every push anything to the server without a commit. I just hated having to do shit like this: svn ci -m "Collaborate with myself" |
| 22:19.32 | Primer | Does git do it any differently? |
| 22:20.02 | Primer | I mean, I want to be able to work on branch X from 2 separate machines, but always use a central repo to get changes from one machine to the other |
| 22:20.16 | kd3 | you can do that just fine in git |
| 22:20.16 | nevcairiel | you need to commit to push |
| 22:20.30 | Primer | ok, you two just said the exact opposite things |
| 22:20.33 | kd3 | but you do need to commit to push, but as long as it's in a branch, your not tainting the mainline with in-progress stuff |
| 22:21.00 | nevcairiel | but you can easily do those silly WIP commits, and once you are done, squash all of them into one clean commit and integrate it into your master branch |
| 22:21.05 | kd3 | "your"? seriously, kd3? |
| 22:21.05 | Primer | yeah, I suppose there's really nothing wrong with that, actually |
| 22:21.51 | nevcairiel | branching is much easier and faster in git, which makes such things a non-issue really |
| 22:21.55 | Primer | nevcairiel: yeah, that's another one of my favorite commit lines for those scenarios: svn ci -m "Work in progress" |
| 22:22.28 | foxlit | so what you want is some form of remote stash storage |
| 22:22.35 | Primer | So there's a facility for consolidating a bunch of WIP commits into a single commit with a more detailed commit log? |
| 22:22.47 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 22:22.54 | nevcairiel | i like to use interactive rebase |
| 22:22.58 | Primer | foxlit: well, I just wanted to avoid having to merge a bunch of WIP commits to master |
| 22:23.09 | nevcairiel | it lets you squash commits into one, or re-word their message, or whatnot |
| 22:23.17 | Primer | that's wonderful! |
| 22:24.01 | Primer | So when I change my repo on wowace from svn to git, will all tags get repackaged? |
| 22:24.54 | Primer | http://pastebin.com/JeNNPxzV |
| 22:25.16 | Primer | I noticed that the more recent tags have an extra v in them |
| 22:25.23 | Primer | I've always used a script to tag |
| 22:26.15 | Primer | http://pastebin.com/m4GxXEuS a bit more info |
| 22:26.24 | nevcairiel | dont push old tags, or the packager will break majorly |
| 22:26.27 | nevcairiel | its a bug! |
| 22:27.08 | Primer | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/repositories/convert-svn-to-git/ if I follow the instructions there, will tags be pushed? |
| 22:27.21 | Primer | given the output in the last pastebin |
| 22:27.57 | Primer | git push origin master <-- seems not |
| 22:38.03 | Primer | Good thing I'm the only person that uses this addon |
| 22:38.19 | Primer | I converted it to git, but I have no idea how to make it package :) |
| 22:39.13 | Xuerian | Primer: Sacrifice three goats, join the CURSE mlg team, throw a tantrum on twitter, then go read the packager docs. In that order |
| 22:39.34 | Primer | naw, I need to read the git docs first |
| 22:39.58 | Primer | how the fuck does this addon have 1401 downloads... |
| 22:40.07 | Primer | for the last file I tagged |
| 22:40.10 | Xuerian | Which? |
| 22:40.15 | Primer | http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4_arrow/files/ |
| 22:41.00 | Xuerian | Same reason GPS is popular? |
| 22:41.34 | Primer | Is that a raid-frame agnostic arrow? |
| 22:41.39 | Primer | I wrote one of those as well |
| 22:42.10 | Xuerian | It's a thing you put in your car or your phone, generally. |
| 22:42.21 | Primer | But it didn't work in some raid frame addons. Mostly vudu or whatever the fuck it was called |
| 22:47.12 | foxlit | http://pastebin.com/h7rmehPX << how would you structure those function arguments/return values? |
| 22:48.10 | foxlit | kind of want to keep some degree of uniformity between the local and cdn versions, but not sure if the balance is right; getting CDN returns from localbuild seems weird. |
| 22:48.43 | foxlit | and separate open and openCDN are also dubious; could just ask you for everything and let you supply nils for things you donât want. Thoughts? |
| 22:53.22 | Neffi | http://depressedalien.com/Large/223.png lol |
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| 23:19.16 | Neffi | might be losing it. thought to myself "why does my mind feel broken". I somehow forgot I'm drunk |
| 23:26.24 | Semlar | manually setting the frame level of every single nameplate "works", but isn't an acceptable solution because they overlap any frame that's set to the background strata |
| 23:26.38 | Semlar | it's also a hell of a lot of overhead |
| 23:28.49 | foxlit | lua: Too many open files << amusing. |
| 23:34.39 | foxlit | settled on http://pastebin.com/BTgmaUUf ; things work now. |
| 23:35.46 | Semlar | oh thank god, i found a frame stacking solution that doesn't require covering the interface in nameplates |
| 23:36.37 | Semlar | i just have to put every single nameplate in its own scrollframe! |
| 23:36.46 | Semlar | i'm sure this is great for rendering |
| 23:36.54 | Neffi | that sounds terrible |
| 23:37.02 | foxlit | who cares? |
| 23:37.04 | Semlar | still better than the alternative |
| 23:37.11 | Semlar | it does what i want |
| 23:37.19 | foxlit | if your addon kills the frame rate, nobody will use it, so rendering doesnât care about it. |
| 23:37.35 | foxlit | if your addon doesnât kill the frame rate, nobody cares about the number of scroll frames you create. |
| 23:37.36 | Neffi | lol |
| 23:37.37 | Simca_ | lolol |
| 23:37.39 | Semlar | it actually doesn't appear to have much of an impact at all |
| 23:37.58 | Semlar | but i don't have a terrible computer so it's hard to tell |
| 23:38.30 | Semlar | ..which is good enough for me because all i care about is how it performs for me |
| 23:42.08 | foxlit | Simca_: do you know how volatile those build/archive/cdn keys are? |
| 23:43.01 | foxlit | can I assume that if the build key remains the same, absolutely nothing in that buildâs archives changed? |
| 23:43.38 | foxlit | or can they swap out, say, the encoding file, without changing its hash identifier? |
| 23:44.07 | Simca_ | you can assume that the build file will never change without its name changing |
| 23:44.42 | Simca_ | they will always replace them if even one character changes |
| 23:44.49 | Simca_ | even if it isn't a new build |
| 23:45.29 | Simca_ | i think the names are just the file's md5 |
| 23:49.53 | Semlar | they appear to have changed how the elite border gets displayed on nameplates, did they add another texture for it to be? |
| 23:50.41 | Semlar | maybe it's just how i'm doing things |
