| 00:02.45 | TC-Work | ~comfort Shirik |
| 00:02.45 | purl | There, there, Shirik. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
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| 01:12.35 | Stanzilla | https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/2hzvcx/seems_like_warcraft_3_is_being_added_to_the/ |
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| 03:33.45 | kd3 | Welp, trying to log on to Medivh to kill Coren Direbrew today and getting "Character not found". Eep. |
| 03:36.09 | livespink | i had that shit earlier |
| 03:36.13 | livespink | i just kept trying and it worked |
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| 03:47.44 | znf | kd3, there's nothing new |
| 03:47.53 | znf | the gear is old |
| 03:47.54 | znf | ^^ |
| 03:48.02 | kd3 | yes, but I still don't have the kodo |
| 03:48.29 | kd3 | even though I've got both ram mounts and have had them since 2007 (has it seriously been 7 years?) |
| 03:59.10 | nebula169 | everyone in my guild has been complaining about the kodo, i'm glad i got it when it was first released |
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| 04:09.25 | znf | I don't even know if I have it |
| 04:09.29 | znf | but I don't luck out on the mount, ever |
| 04:09.33 | znf | so I didn't even bother this year :D |
| 04:19.22 | Constie | http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/programming-languages-considered-harmful.18009/ |
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| 05:44.19 | karl_w_w | LA lost internet? |
| 05:54.09 | Thunder_Child_ | No, I still have it. |
| 06:04.58 | relaxok | oh my fuck. |
| 06:05.26 | relaxok | finally figured out the model camera stuff after a huge bunch of failing |
| 06:05.42 | relaxok | cameras in <ModelFFX> frames |
| 06:10.45 | Semlar | final fantasy 10 frames? |
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| 06:11.39 | relaxok | assuming you don't actually know, it's a wow ui frame that can load and display a model |
| 06:12.11 | Semlar | what's special about it |
| 06:12.56 | karl_w_w | oh apparently it's power outages in LA http://imgur.com/GvCOplX |
| 06:13.11 | relaxok | nothing much, it can set cameras that are in m2 models and i had never really looked at m2 cameras before |
| 06:13.30 | relaxok | it's what makes the camera appear in the right spot with the right fov in the loading screens, character select, character create, etc. |
| 06:32.46 | Fisker | :( karl_w_w |
| 06:33.08 | Fisker | When I play knife juggler it's all like "You have two targets, and 4 attempts to hit the right one, it even has taunt, but it still fails" |
| 06:33.28 | karl_w_w | knife juggler is hearthstone's biggest troll |
| 06:33.38 | karl_w_w | bigger than gurubashi berserker! |
| 06:33.40 | Fisker | When opponent plays knife juggler it's all like "He only needs one point to kill me, but he has 4 targets *knife in face*" |
| 07:08.57 | Fisker | man karl_w_w |
| 07:09.37 | Fisker | Know that feeling when you're up against a mage you have 2 hp, 7 mana and alexstrasza pops out? |
| 07:10.17 | Fisker | Now if only it had been at 8 mana :( |
| 07:13.25 | karl_w_w | somehow warlock hero power still hasnt been nerfed |
| 07:17.24 | harl | mojn |
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| 07:24.51 | Shirik | "Russian state television has claimed the pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong are being organised by Britain and the United States." |
| 07:24.53 | Shirik | lol |
| 07:33.06 | livespink | seems legit |
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| 07:48.52 | ccox | Cairenn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA8m1-FgB8c |
| 07:55.39 | Cairenn | awwwww |
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| 08:35.23 | foxlit | grr, LE_EXPANSION_BURNING_CRUSADE vs LE_EXPANSION_LEVEL_CURRENT vs NUM_LE_EXPANSION_LEVELS |
| 08:35.41 | Fisker | growls at foxlit |
| 08:36.15 | foxlit | (i.e. LE values are no longer unique within a grouping, and do not actually have to match the grouping name.) |
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| 09:15.10 | karl_w_w | so 9gag made wow? |
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| 09:18.16 | Alram | le wow |
| 09:19.58 | Kalroth | *tipping intensifies* |
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| 09:31.26 | karl_w_w | http://cdn.styleforum.net/b/b0/350x700px-LL-b0067b11_tipping-intensifies.gif Kalroth |
| 09:31.42 | Kalroth | max tipp |
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| 10:02.25 | karl_w_w | http://i.4cdn.org/b/1412227813820.jpg :D |
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| 11:46.49 | karl_w_w | I crossed over to the dark side Fisker |
| 11:46.56 | Fisker | good |
| 11:46.59 | karl_w_w | zoo lock too good |
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| 12:10.17 | karl_w_w | but fuck its so boring |
| 12:16.51 | Semlar | does the client not look in the warcraft folder to load files you want to override any more |
| 12:17.40 | Semlar | maybe because of the CASC change? |
| 12:19.19 | hizuro | not really. i'm using some files from aurora ui as replacement... wod handle it... |
| 12:19.49 | Semlar | ah, i just saw someone complaining about it on the forum http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14609681844 |
| 12:19.58 | Semlar | maybe they're mistaken |
| 12:20.23 | Neffi | are you still awake Semlar? |
| 12:20.37 | Neffi | or have you started waking up in the AM like normal people? |
| 12:20.42 | Semlar | i got a call 20 minutes ago from century link about the new cable box they're installing |
| 12:20.57 | Semlar | as it turns out, i don't actually have century link |
| 12:21.06 | Neffi | o.O wtf |
| 12:21.15 | Semlar | so whoever they were trying to call gave them the wrong number |
| 12:21.40 | Semlar | so i'll just stay up |
| 12:21.50 | Neffi | infallible reasoning right there |
| 12:22.11 | Semlar | this is a better time to be awake anyway |
| 12:22.38 | Neffi | I woke up at fucking 3:30 am. I gotta go start working in about a half hour and I'm already tired. This is a terrible schedule |
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| 12:22.59 | Semlar | if it makes you feel any better i only managed to get to sleep about 3 hours ago |
| 12:23.17 | Neffi | heh |
| 12:23.21 | Neffi | well, off to go get ready |
| 12:23.48 | hizuro | :) |
| 12:41.38 | Fisker | ticktackles |
| 12:41.42 | Fisker | Damn |
| 12:41.58 | Fisker | ticktackles Lopeppeppy |
| 12:42.01 | Kalroth | fiskers Fisker |
| 12:42.10 | Fisker | dies |
| 12:42.20 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, everypeople. Heya, Fisker. |
| 12:42.40 | Fisker | Fisker not people :( |
| 12:42.43 | Fisker | :D |
| 12:44.24 | hizuro | good morning? clock check... cest +2 :) |
| 12:44.37 | Fisker | ugt hizuro |
| 12:44.39 | Constie | Morning is a state of mind. |
| 12:45.00 | hizuro | :) |
| 12:45.09 | Lopeppeppy | Quelle surprise, someone is wrong on the interweb? |
| 12:45.10 | Kalroth | i think purl got a link for that |
| 12:45.37 | Kalroth | http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 12:45.38 | Lopeppeppy | ~morning |
| 12:45.38 | purl | Good morning! |
| 12:45.47 | Kalroth | ~ugt |
| 12:45.47 | purl | [ugt] Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 12:45.51 | Lopeppeppy | Purl always knows what time it is. |
| 12:45.53 | hizuro | hehe |
| 12:47.26 | Constie | Coincidentally, I've been greeting guild members with "Good morning!" at all times for years just because I think it's funny, so this is enjoyable for me. |
| 12:47.57 | hizuro | :) |
| 12:49.26 | Semlar | unfortunately it is morning here |
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| 12:49.38 | Semlar | and i want to go back to sleep |
| 12:50.00 | hizuro | :) |
| 12:50.07 | nevcairiel | its like mid-afternoon here, too early still to go back to sleep |
| 12:50.09 | nevcairiel | but i re ally wanna |
| 12:51.02 | Constie | I should be getting the sleep that I missed last night, but I'm exercising poor judgement and playing WoW instead. |
| 12:52.02 | hizuro | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:52.24 | Semlar | does anyone have any experience with using LED bulbs for home lighting |
| 12:52.42 | hizuro | - |
| 12:53.27 | hizuro | depends on build in led type... |
| 12:53.28 | Constie | I think that's the kind I've been using the last couple of years. I'm no lightingologist, though. |
| 12:53.49 | Semlar | well the CFLs are the twisty ones |
| 12:54.00 | Semlar | LEDs are the absurdly expensive ones |
| 12:54.30 | Semlar | i'm trying to figure out how they hold up |
| 12:55.00 | nevcairiel | you mean, like, lifetime? |
| 12:55.14 | nevcairiel | those leds hold up for ages, since they dont get excessively hot and suffer that way |
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| 12:55.52 | Constie | Apparently incandescent bulbs can actually stay alive for a really, really long time. You just have to never ever turn them off. |
| 12:55.53 | Semlar | they claim like 23 year life expectancies but i've seen people complaining about them going back after months or a couple years |
| 12:56.06 | Semlar | and they cost like $20+ a bulb |
| 12:56.21 | nevcairiel | Constie: yeah a lot of stuff s uffers much more from the on/off cycle than the actual working hours |
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| 12:58.52 | Constie | Yeah, it's LED bulbs that I have three of. I got them like 2.5 years ago and haven't had to replace any yet with pretty normal use. |
| 12:58.58 | Constie | And I think they were more like $10. |
| 12:59.18 | nevcairiel | for like $20 you can almost get the smart LED bulbs with wifi color control and whatnot! |
| 12:59.42 | Semlar | alright well this is the kind i'm looking at http://amazon.com/dp/B00G4V4VE0 |
| 13:01.06 | Kalroth | the new'ish white LEDs are actually very good lightning now, not just talking bulbs but the small ones |
| 13:02.07 | Kalroth | i bought a cheap desktop lamp where the LEDs are 3000K and it's pretty good lightning |
| 13:02.28 | nevcairiel | 3000K? that sounds like an odd color |
| 13:02.37 | Kalroth | http://www.ledwaves.com/About-Color-Temperature.html |
| 13:02.37 | Semlar | that's pretty neutral |
| 13:02.45 | Kalroth | warm white, it seems |
| 13:03.17 | Kalroth | it was in Aldi, so no clue about brand |
| 13:03.58 | hizuro | 3000k is not the wave length of light... looks like the life time :) |
| 13:04.07 | nevcairiel | its the color temperature |
| 13:04.09 | Semlar | nah color temperature is measured in kelvins |
| 13:04.16 | hizuro | hm... |
| 13:04.31 | nevcairiel | i guess its supposed to be a bit warmer than neutral |
| 13:04.42 | Semlar | although it's not really that reliable between manufacturers |
| 13:05.15 | Semlar | or sometimes even between different bulbs from the same brand |
| 13:05.22 | Kalroth | and it's CRI is supposedly over 80, but i'm not sure that that means: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_rendering_index#Typical_values |
| 13:05.32 | Kalroth | another way to measure lighting? |
| 13:05.35 | Semlar | the higher the CRI is the more "accurate" the colors are supposed to be |
| 13:06.01 | Kalroth | ah, that's why incandescent is 100 |
| 13:06.42 | Kalroth | it feels pretty random when buying LED bulbs though |
| 13:07.03 | Kalroth | i've bought some cheap ones in IKEA that had really good lighting, but didn't last that long |
| 13:07.17 | Kalroth | and i've bought expensive Philips ones that had shit lighting |
| 13:07.49 | Semlar | i'm looking for some fairly bright bulbs because these CFLs i have are terrible |
| 13:08.40 | Semlar | they're supposed to be 60w equivalents but there is no way they produce as much light as a standard incandescent |
| 13:08.41 | Kalroth | i put the shitty ones where good lighting isn't needed, like in the garage |
| 13:08.49 | Kalroth | or in the bedroom where it's helpful! |
| 13:11.40 | VIad | 'tis gon be guud https://searchcode.com/?q=if%28version%2Cstartswith%28%22windows%209%22%29&p=0 |
| 13:13.17 | nevcairiel | its not called 9 something, but 10, so, no problem? |
| 13:13.24 | nevcairiel | obviously it was for 95/98 :p |
| 13:13.28 | Semlar | i think they must be matching 95/98 |
| 13:13.48 | Semlar | because why else would it be starts with.. windows 9 or equals windows ME |
| 13:13.54 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 13:14.47 | VIad | lol |
| 13:14.49 | Semlar | also only the first handful of matches actually have "windows 9" |
| 13:14.51 | VIad | skipped 9? |
| 13:14.57 | nevcairiel | it might actually have been a problem if it was called windows 9 |
| 13:15.04 | Stanzilla | behind how many moons are you living, VIad |
| 13:15.07 | nevcairiel | but you dont follow the news, so you wouldnt know that its called Windows 10 |
| 13:15.09 | Semlar | yeah they skipped right to 10 vlad |
| 13:15.18 | VIad | hiolaroius |
| 13:15.23 | VIad | hilarious* |
| 13:15.23 | Stanzilla | I guess it's rocks in english |
| 13:15.43 | VIad | we should skips versions more often :p |
| 13:15.52 | VIad | WoW 6.X? screw it WoW 7.X! |
| 13:16.15 | Semlar | it's not like windows has had a very reliable version number |
| 13:16.27 | nevcairiel | its just the product name |
| 13:16.36 | nevcairiel | the version number is something else |
| 13:16.37 | Stanzilla | it's just the marketing man |
| 13:16.39 | foxlit | the PHP team has heard your request and is happy to accomodate. |
| 13:16.56 | Stanzilla | you can be glad that it isn't apple, they would have screwed users over having a good marketing name |
| 13:17.07 | nevcairiel | hey Stanzilla, is it actually windows 7.0, or 6.4? |
| 13:17.11 | Stanzilla | 6.4 |
| 13:17.22 | VIad | oh second thought skipping numbers isn't that new to americans, considering floor 13 is usually floor 14 :P |
| 13:18.07 | nevcairiel | wouldnt floor 14 be floor 13 |
| 13:18.17 | Semlar | floor 14 is clearly floor 14 |
| 13:18.21 | Kalroth | floor 13 is floor 13, dumbasses!! |
| 13:18.25 | Kalroth | geez |
| 13:18.36 | hizuro | :D |
| 13:18.40 | VIad | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/Missing_Floor_13.jpg |
| 13:18.53 | nevcairiel | if you ask me, then ground level is also floor 0, and not 1 |
| 13:19.00 | Stanzilla | press 1 and 3 together |
| 13:19.03 | Kalroth | i dont click wikipedia links, i'm superstitious like that |
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| 13:19.08 | Stanzilla | oh damn, no 1 either |
| 13:19.12 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: i agree |
| 13:19.14 | Semlar | you can never leave |
| 13:19.26 | VIad | Semlar: maybe with broken legs from 1st floor |
| 13:19.26 | Semlar | this elevator only goes up |
| 13:20.04 | VIad | in any case was funny how windows 9 could have been an issue with old/weird coding. glad it won't be now. :p |
| 13:20.18 | Kalroth | i highly doubt that was the real reason :) |
| 13:20.28 | Stanzilla | probably just one of them |
| 13:20.58 | Kalroth | backwards compability with shitty old applications checking for Windows 95/98 in an incorrect way |
| 13:21.18 | VIad | shouldn't be an issue |
| 13:21.21 | Kalroth | what version is apple os on? |
| 13:21.22 | VIad | just compile x64 |
| 13:21.25 | Semlar | 10 |
| 13:21.27 | Stanzilla | 10.10 |
| 13:21.29 | Kalroth | there you go |
| 13:21.32 | VIad | I think they are at chipmunks now |
| 13:21.33 | Kalroth | that's the real reason |
| 13:21.37 | VIad | or foxes |
| 13:21.39 | VIad | or lions |
| 13:21.40 | VIad | or birds |
| 13:21.44 | VIad | or mountain names |
| 13:21.45 | VIad | :P |
| 13:21.53 | VIad | hard to track these chronologically |
| 13:21.53 | hizuro | i wish a linux native version of wow.... i hate windows.... |
| 13:22.02 | Semlar | MSX RABID MONGOOSE |
| 13:22.16 | VIad | lol |
| 13:22.23 | VIad | I like it |
| 13:22.36 | Semlar | yeah they should just start naming new versions after random animals |
| 13:22.50 | Stanzilla | Windows 11 "Gorilla" |
| 13:23.09 | VIad | drop the number |
| 13:23.10 | VIad | just names |
| 13:23.21 | VIad | math.random() for versioning |
| 13:23.25 | foxlit | stop insulting the Trusty Tahr. |
| 13:23.25 | Stanzilla | WINDOWS HIPPOPPOTHAMUSICANTSPELL |
| 13:23.26 | hizuro | longhorn :) |
| 13:23.49 | VIad | ugh ... btw wanted to try accountant and accountant classic |
| 13:23.51 | Semlar | that was named after a steakhouse |
| 13:24.06 | VIad | both apparently share some global variable, ran both at once by accident, corrupted accountant data :P funny |
| 13:24.28 | VIad | lessing is never to use global scope for more than one global variable and make sure thats damn unique |
| 13:24.40 | VIad | especially when making remakes or fanversions |
| 13:25.41 | Constie | I'm finally starting to consistently remember that things are global by default in Lua. |
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| 13:27.49 | VIad | tables are a good way to store your stuff in, no need to use 50 local variables either :p |
| 13:28.16 | Kalroth | i prefer closets |
| 13:28.20 | Kalroth | or trunks |
| 13:34.20 | VIad | chests |
| 13:34.52 | VIad | btw hunter can do the trove run really easy straight from neutral rep without any helping items just by being awesome :D |
| 13:34.59 | VIad | disengage up to ledges and across gaps |
| 13:35.10 | VIad | cheetah aspect, pet distraction, FD, e.g. |
| 13:35.14 | VIad | built for the trove run |
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| 13:35.24 | VIad | did it no problem with my hunter, had issues with my other classes :p |
| 13:35.39 | Semlar | hunter master race |
| 13:35.48 | VIad | just funny to think to compensate they added items that require rep to buy in order to do the run like a hunter :p |
| 13:35.53 | VIad | oh not to mention hunter trap:p |
| 13:36.01 | VIad | easy gold ever |
| 13:36.03 | VIad | 500g each run |
| 13:37.35 | VIad | pvp ending next week? |
| 13:37.49 | VIad | hope so, means 6.0 live in two/three weeks :D |
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| 13:54.25 | nevcairiel | usually pvp ends on the same date as the patch would be, afair |
| 13:55.15 | nevcairiel | its either the 14th or the 21st anyway |
| 13:55.33 | nevcairiel | anything later would cut the time between patch and expansion quite short |
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| 14:22.20 | mikma | a hunter told me that i need to reroll a proper character (i am a monk tank) and that wow community hates monks |
| 14:23.40 | Semlar | monks are great |
| 14:24.01 | Semlar | in fact they were super overpowered tanks for a while there |
| 14:24.27 | Stanzilla | still are in CM |
| 14:24.59 | Semlar | yeah but until they nerfed their damage output our brewmaster was significantly outdamaging the DPS |
| 14:25.04 | mikma | but, wow community hates monks! says the hunter! |
| 14:25.20 | Semlar | listen to the superior hunter |
| 14:25.25 | mikma | semlar: i'm still pretty often outdamaging dps classes :P |
| 14:26.01 | Semlar | i played a brewmaster for a while and was impressed at the number of utility functions they had a tank |
| 14:26.23 | Semlar | the ranged aoe threat builder is a little ridiculous |
| 14:26.36 | Semlar | and you have crazy mobility |
| 14:27.46 | Semlar | the only thing i didn't like was it was making my hand hurt from spamming abilities |
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| 14:29.58 | Semlar | i like mistweavers too, but i've never seen a very good windwalker so they might have some issues |
| 14:30.50 | Semlar | or maybe people just don't play them for other reasons |
| 14:31.48 | Semlar | probably because they aren't warlocks |
| 14:35.56 | Semlar | man noxxic has some supremely inaccurate dps rankings |
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| 14:39.57 | VIad | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154281897100158&set=a.10150289773225158.508940.905475157&type=1&theater |
| 14:43.32 | VIad | cute |
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| 14:52.38 | Lopeppeppy | Needs more Dayquil. Shirik, did you give me your cold? |
| 14:59.22 | Fisker | :O |
| 15:06.45 | Shirik | :( |
| 15:07.56 | mikma | i need help with splitting name, "name-servername" should be split so that the plain name gets captured |
| 15:08.22 | Semlar | strsplit('-', name)? |
| 15:08.29 | mikma | that simple? :) |
| 15:08.35 | Semlar | i don't remember which argument goes first |
| 15:09.24 | mikma | local a, b = strsplit(" ", msg, 2); |
| 15:10.09 | Semlar | yeah, it's bizarrely backwards from other string functions, probably because it's implemented by blizzard |
| 15:10.22 | fewyn | the realm name thing is silly |
| 15:10.39 | fewyn | well not silly |
| 15:10.40 | fewyn | but silly |
| 15:10.44 | mikma | i agree |
| 15:10.47 | mikma | it's silly. |
| 15:10.58 | mikma | i have an addon that helps us leveling |
| 15:11.08 | mikma | it accepts !commands in partychat and has a whitelist |
| 15:11.15 | mikma | so the name-servername kinda fucks it up |
| 15:11.41 | fewyn | it was a problem in the Reported addon for awhile |
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| 15:12.08 | fewyn | i'm now curious how it was fixed |
| 15:14.41 | fewyn | filteredname = strmatch(player, "([^%-]+)%-?.*"); -- Remove server name from player names. |
| 15:14.52 | fewyn | yeah so similar thing |
| 15:16.01 | Semlar | strsplit is substantially faster though |
| 15:16.11 | mikma | seems to work just fine, semlar |
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| 15:26.30 | Miiru | anybody knows how to fake a guild invite popup? |
| 15:26.57 | nevcairiel | why fake, just be unguilded for 5 minutes and you'll have ten! |
| 15:27.18 | Miiru | sadly not :D |
| 15:27.38 | Miiru | plus on reload its gone away^ |
| 15:27.52 | haste | or create a new character and test with an invite |
| 15:28.17 | Miiru | got it :) |
| 15:28.28 | Miiru | StaticPopupSpecial_Show(GuildInviteFrame) |
| 15:29.02 | Semlar | https://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/blob/live/FrameXML/GuildInviteFrame.lua |
| 15:30.31 | Semlar | GuildInviteFrame_OnEvent(GuildInviteFrame, "GUILD_INVITE_REQUEST", inviterName, guildName, guildLevel, oldGuildName, isNewGuild) |
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| 15:41.17 | kd3 | mm... maybe cloudflare couldn't handle the load of ~2MM sites getting SSL certs? |
| 15:41.19 | kd3 | sighs |
| 15:56.54 | pompy | http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/01/tesla-d-teaser/?ncid=rss_truncated "The D" |
| 15:57.03 | pompy | https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/517509858971504640 lol |
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| 16:02.08 | Ressy | kd3: They actually say theres bad routing. |
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| 16:08.43 | Fisker | That's what they want you to believe |
| 16:10.32 | karl_w_w | oh man, hummus so good |
| 16:11.25 | karl_w_w | I haven't had any in so long, thank god I had a wisdom tooth taken out to prompt me to think of soft foods I can eat |
| 16:17.22 | Constie | I wish I liked hummus more. It'd be a really great thing to eat if I did. |
| 16:37.12 | karl_w_w | hummus has a very odd flavour, I can see why some people don't like it |
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| 16:37.47 | karl_w_w | it's funny cos I used to like taramasalata as well, but not so much anymore |
| 16:40.39 | Lopeppeppy | Hummus is awesome when you add flavors. Garlic lover's is my favorite. |
| 16:44.31 | mikma | that reminds me |
| 16:44.41 | mikma | lopeppeppy: http://imgur.com/PedUiDZ |
| 16:45.18 | Lopeppeppy | Que-fck is "beet hummus" ? *laugh* |
| 16:47.36 | mikma | not enough garlic anyway |
| 17:12.26 | zenzelezz | "-r-------- 1 root root 128T Oct 2 19:10 kcore" - somehow I don't think that's a genuine size |
| 17:13.05 | TC-Work | Wouldn't it be Tb or TB? |
| 17:13.19 | TC-Work | Nope. |
| 17:13.22 | TC-Work | nvm me. |
| 17:29.53 | Arrowmaster | i fucking hate recruiters |
| 17:30.17 | Arrowmaster | they want me to add metric numbers to my resume under the job descriptions |
| 17:30.54 | nevcairiel | at least they use metric and not imperial! |
| 17:31.11 | Arrowmaster | ... |
| 17:31.32 | nevcairiel | i can see how metric might be a challenge for you, being american and all |
| 17:31.55 | Arrowmaster | its like these are all the possible things i could have done at each position, saying i did this much of each one per day makes no sense |
| 17:32.06 | Arrowmaster | every fucking day is different |
| 17:32.31 | Arrowmaster | every jobsite is different even under the same project |
| 17:32.39 | nevcairiel | average |
| 17:33.06 | Arrowmaster | there were no averages |
| 17:33.25 | Arrowmaster | at least none i could come up with quickly |
| 17:33.27 | nevcairiel | no, build your own average on what you did |
| 17:33.50 | phelps | when I was living in CO, the strangest thing, a recruiter from LinkedIn came to me, for an interview, was so awkward |
| 17:34.06 | phelps | not FROM LinkedIn, found me via LinkedIn |
| 17:34.48 | nevcairiel | if a recruiter as a decent interest in you, they might go through some extra trouble to get you |
| 17:34.52 | Arrowmaster | i get so much bullshit emails |
| 17:35.09 | nevcairiel | *has |
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| 17:35.58 | Arrowmaster | 'we have a position that sounds great for you, we need a servicenow engineer with 5+ years experience, please respond with DECLINE if you are not interested in this position' i only have experience with servicenow from one job and fuck off |
| 17:37.01 | phelps | I didn't take the job because the guy seemed almost like a car salesman |
| 17:37.27 | phelps | had this shady feel to it |
| 17:38.08 | phelps | I ended up working for an Ad agency which wasn't much fun |
| 17:38.19 | phelps | so now I'm back to freelance |
| 17:38.50 | Arrowmaster | so this job i did yesterday, replacing all the PCs in a building because the company was purchased and changed IT providers |
| 17:39.23 | Arrowmaster | instructions were to run windows update until outlook would connect and retrieve users new email accounts automatically |
| 17:39.51 | Primer | and everything blew up and everyone lost their email |
| 17:39.56 | phelps | lol |
| 17:40.02 | Arrowmaster | there was one fucking outlook patch that was required and didnt pull down automatically on half the machines so we had to manually install it after somebody finally told us exactly which fucking patch it was |
| 17:40.12 | Arrowmaster | oh everybody lost everything in this transition |
| 17:40.20 | Arrowmaster | all old data is gone and all old emails are gone |
| 17:40.26 | kd3 | wow |
| 17:41.19 | Arrowmaster | if they would have just told us the exact required patch to get outlook setup we would have gotten done in maybe 5 hours instead of 10 |
| 17:50.34 | Fisker | this is your fault Shirik |
| 17:50.41 | Fisker | I'm holding you personally responsible |
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| 19:31.31 | Arrowmaster | recruiter is annoying the fuck out of me |
| 19:31.53 | Dagmar | "Confess" to him how you lost your last job. |
| 19:32.47 | Arrowmaster | telling him about my dinner conversation last night would be more amusing |
| 19:33.36 | Arrowmaster | getting laid off last time wasnt really very exciting |
| 19:33.49 | d[karl]b | so make something up |
| 19:34.14 | d[karl]b | you can be the loose cannon you always wanted to be! |
| 19:34.40 | karl_w_w | you punched your boss in the face because he said you can't masturbate in the workplace! |
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| 19:36.21 | Dagmar | I was thinking embezzelment and an ill-advised bit of sexual experimentation with the bosses border collie |
| 19:36.46 | Arrowmaster | wants me to take some stupid online assessment since he cant reach one of my references |
| 19:36.47 | karl_w_w | well it has to be believable |
| 19:38.29 | Arrowmaster | seriously wwhat the fuck |
| 19:38.32 | Arrowmaster | this test is stupid |
| 19:38.37 | Arrowmaster | but timed |
| 19:39.54 | zenzelezz | is this some recruiter you approached yourself, or did he contact you? |
| 19:40.01 | Arrowmaster | contacted me |
| 19:40.17 | Arrowmaster | quick whats the rdp command line name |
| 19:40.50 | Arrowmaster | got it |
| 19:47.13 | Arrowmaster | im googling the answer to every fucking question |
| 19:47.39 | nevcairiel | maybe you're not suited for whatever he envisions you for then |
| 19:48.06 | Arrowmaster | no its stupid shit like what is the exact path in the start menu to this tool |
| 19:49.05 | Arrowmaster | it would be stupid easy if i was at a win7 pc but im on linux |
| 19:49.31 | Kesava | ... also what if you've moved them |
| 19:49.33 | Kesava | that's terrible |
| 20:01.02 | Arrowmaster | so i thought i bombed this test since i stopped caring near the end and was guessing based on instinct, he called me and said i scored one of the highest hes seen...... |
| 20:01.07 | Arrowmaster | dafuk |
| 20:01.14 | Semlar | to be fair, you also cheated |
| 20:01.27 | Arrowmaster | it said i could use online resources |
| 20:01.46 | Arrowmaster | so i copy pasted the questions into google |
| 20:02.41 | Semlar | i don't trust this guy |
| 20:03.04 | Arrowmaster | neither do i, hes like the 3rd recruiter ive had for this company |
| 20:03.30 | Arrowmaster | i guess the other 2 i was in contact with in the last 5 months have left |
| 20:06.02 | TC-Work | So apparently I have no idea what Sam Raimi and |
| 20:06.20 | TC-Work | some other dude |
| 20:06.23 | TC-Work | look like |
| 20:08.57 | Fisker | uh Arrowmaster |
| 20:09.10 | Fisker | You should tell him with a question like that they probably don't want anybody competent working there |
| 20:09.11 | Arrowmaster | what Fisker |
| 20:09.23 | Fisker | since nobody uses the fucking path in the startmenu since fucking windows 95 |
| 20:09.27 | Fisker | ok 98 |
| 20:09.28 | Arrowmaster | hes a recruiter for a staffing agency |
| 20:09.58 | Fisker | But maybe if you put him in his fucking place he'll recognize? |
| 20:10.45 | Arrowmaster | well hes giving my cell number to the hiring manager for some desktop support position now |
| 20:11.26 | Fisker | Also don't listen to me I can't get a job anyway not even when an entire department wants me there |
| 20:12.12 | Arrowmaster | all i can get is shitty low level tech crap, i swear ive never used anything from my degree for a job |
| 20:12.23 | Fisker | sucks |
| 20:12.29 | Arrowmaster | hate this job market |
| 20:12.51 | haste | Shirik: finally gotten the damn gold connector badge |
| 20:12.56 | Arrowmaster | can only get hired for shitty jobs, shitty jobs dont prepare me the good jobs so i cant get hired for them |
| 20:13.03 | Shirik | haste: I just hit my L9 AP requirement |
| 20:13.09 | Shirik | but I need another silver badge and I'm not even close :( |
| 20:13.14 | haste | Shirik: "9 months" till next badge |
| 20:13.19 | haste | need a damn platinum for L15 |
| 20:13.21 | Shirik | I'll probably have 2 gold badges until I get another silver badge |
| 20:13.25 | Shirik | guardian? |
| 20:13.30 | Shirik | My accidental guardian is still going |
| 20:13.36 | haste | I have 2/3 platinum atm |
| 20:13.42 | Shirik | I have no idea where it is, and I've confirmed it's not in town |
| 20:13.44 | haste | those two being recharger and guardian |
| 20:13.52 | haste | http://i.imgur.com/1TYgyL7.png |
| 20:13.57 | Fisker | I wasn't good enough though Arrowmaster |
| 20:14.12 | Fisker | I never documented my work, despite I was the only one who documented any work, or actually did any work |
| 20:14.31 | haste | not much left until onyx recharger as well |
| 20:15.07 | Shirik | 109 days on portal |
| 20:15.10 | Shirik | is that still going? |
| 20:15.18 | Fisker | lets blow up Shirik |
| 20:15.23 | Arrowmaster | i think i got laid off from my last fulltime position for not doing enough in their ticket system, dispite me asking people multiple times to train me on their ticket system instead they just told me to go in the back and reimage laptops |
| 20:15.27 | Fisker | I heard they don't have competent people over there |
| 20:21.36 | haste | Shirik: it got taken down by guardian hunters at 109 |
| 20:21.49 | Shirik | :< |
| 20:21.54 | haste | I have about ten "guardians" atm |
| 20:22.01 | haste | at 27 - 31 days |
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| 21:03.44 | Jamash | is that an actual game or is it just a way for google to incentivize people to build out their gps/wifi database? |
| 21:08.24 | Ackis | haste: what game is that? |
| 21:08.36 | haste | Ackis: Ingress |
| 21:09.07 | Ackis | ahh I heard of that before, didn't like it as it looked like I had to read more than 10 seconds of instructions |
| 21:12.50 | haste | yeah, but it's fun |
| 21:12.54 | haste | and you end up walking a lot :P |
| 21:13.04 | haste | I have a 20min walk to work |
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| 21:13.12 | haste | and some times I use three hours |
| 21:16.41 | foxlit | I kind of want path = path.join(âsome/path/here/../../or/maybe/./thereâ, â..â, â..â, âfile.txtâ), but itâs such a pain :( |
| 21:17.01 | Jamash | in what language? |
| 21:17.05 | foxlit | Lua. |
| 21:17.15 | Jamash | probably better off sending it to python or perl |
| 21:17.33 | Jamash | lua sucks at strings |
| 21:17.33 | foxlit | I guess the sane answer here is just to concatenate everything with the directory separator and let the shell figure it out. |
| 21:18.02 | foxlit | lua does not suck at strings. The logic here is convoluted. |
| 21:18.10 | Jamash | passing the buck is a time-honored programming technique |
| 21:18.23 | Jamash | lua sucks at strings so bad |
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| 21:18.41 | Jamash | lua patterns are a bad joke |
| 21:19.53 | foxlit | and what makes you say that? |
| 21:20.04 | Jamash | that's fine, as PiL says, adding regexps to the standard library would more than double the size of the standard library |
| 21:20.22 | Jamash | but that doesn't make the lua string library not suck |
| 21:20.36 | Jamash | I can't match a repeated pattern of more than one character |
| 21:21.54 | Jamash | Writing a WoW macro parser wasn't that much easier in Lua than if I had written it in C |
| 21:24.12 | foxlit | meh, not that big a problem. |
| 21:24.39 | foxlit | probably not that much easier with full PCRE either. |
| 21:27.19 | Jamash | I wouldn't have found myself writing nasty things like line:find("^(/cast[sequncradom]*)%s+") |
| 21:28.10 | fewyn | has anyone made an addon that searches through the AH for battle pets you don't have? |
| 21:28.22 | foxlit | heaven help you if someone uses a localized version of that command. |
| 21:28.24 | Jamash | the "can use" filter doesn't do that? |
| 21:28.37 | Jamash | foxlit: does wow localize chat commands? |
| 21:29.23 | Jamash | nobody's ever submitted a bug to me about it so I've never looked into it |
| 21:30.04 | Jamash | alternately, is there a global environment string dump for all the locales uploaded somewhere? |
| 21:30.05 | foxlit | wow does localize chat commands. |
| 21:34.16 | Jamash | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.48 | Jamash | weeeird |
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| 21:37.10 | Jamash | welp, I guess I need to suck out the contents of SLASH_CASTx, SLASH_CASTRANDOMx and SLASH_CASTSEQUENCEx in addition to the usual suspects |
| 21:37.25 | Jamash | who knew /spell was a synonym for /cast? |
| 21:40.40 | Jamash | anyway this further prove my point that the lua string library sucks, I have no way without an explicit loop to ask "does this string match any of this list of strings" |
| 21:41.07 | foxlit | youâre looking at a hammer and wondering why it doesnât also remove nails. |
| 21:44.03 | foxlit | (or perhaps âalso include a drillâ is a more apt metaphor) |
| 21:47.08 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure hammers also remove nails |
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| 21:49.07 | foxlit | The parenthetical is clearly intended for you, Semlar. |
| 21:54.51 | Maldivia | Semlar: only if it's a claw hammer |
| 21:56.36 | Semlar | neffi there's been an outbreak of ebola we're all doomed |
| 22:04.39 | Jamash | you can remove a nail with a drill |
| 22:04.53 | Jamash | also you can put nails in with a hammer |
| 22:05.05 | Jamash | I mean screws |
| 22:07.58 | foxlit | and you can surely parse wowâs macro syntax using lua patterns. |
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| 22:26.49 | Jamash | I can, I just don't want to! |
| 22:29.18 | Jamash | I don't know (this is a rhetorical statement, I actually do, because programmers are surly and argumentative) why I can't just say lua patterns suck without getting an argument |
| 22:33.40 | Primer | Jamash: you're wrong! |
| 22:33.50 | Jamash | ~rimshot |
| 22:33.50 | purl | badum-TISH! |
| 22:43.12 | Jamash | lotta battle.net updates lately |
| 22:45.45 | Jamash | 5090 on September 30th, 5107 on the 1st, and 5115 today |
| 22:46.38 | Jamash | the bnet launcher is Qt5, huh? Didn't know that |
| 22:51.35 | Stanzilla | yeah since teh 1.2 update |
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| 23:43.20 | Simca_ | <Jamash> anyway this further prove my point that the lua string library sucks, I have no way without an explicit loop to ask "does this string match any of this list of strings" |
| 23:43.31 | Simca_ | what language would you -NOT- have to do that in? |
| 23:44.44 | Simca_ | I know a decent amount of C/C++ and you certainly can't do it there, not without boost |
| 23:44.51 | Jamash | Perl if ($_ ~= m/(this|or|that)/i) { blah; } |
| 23:44.56 | Simca_ | and I don't think you can do it in C# either |
| 23:45.11 | Jamash | none of those are what I would call string-friendly languages |
| 23:45.23 | Jamash | I'm thinking perl, python, J |
| 23:46.33 | Semlar | most regex implementations support "or" |
| 23:46.44 | Jamash | yes |
| 23:46.56 | Semlar | lua obviously doesn't have regex pattern matching because it would be larger than lua itself |
| 23:48.28 | Simca_ | I think the reasoning behind the design is that the operation you're describing is obviously very expensive - in terms of the number of string comparisons - and it is unusual for a language to want to have incredibly expensive operations as standard functions |
| 23:49.08 | Jamash | Semlar, Simca_: I already said that |
| 23:49.58 | Jamash | well, about the size of the regex library; efficient regexp implementations aren't as expensive as you might think in terms of time |
| 23:50.41 | Semlar | that's the reason they gave for not implementing a standard regex library was that it would make lua substantially larger |
| 23:50.48 | Jamash | yes, I know |
| 23:51.14 | Jamash | also I don't know about you but I know of incredibly expensive operations that are standard in every language |
| 23:51.21 | Semlar | on the other hand, regex is inherently slow |
| 23:51.35 | Semlar | and putting "or" statements in a pattern makes it even slower |
| 23:51.52 | Jamash | I don't know what makes regexes slow but garbage-collection fast |
| 23:52.31 | Semlar | when you have or statements in a pattern it ends up backtracking a lot |
| 23:53.02 | Semlar | not all the way to the start of the string usually, but it can add a lot of time to the operation |
| 23:54.13 | Jamash | garbage collection can be slow too but lua has it |
