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| 00:10.06 | Torhal | Cairenn: http://synthcats.com/ |
| 00:10.19 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 00:35.01 | TC-Work | Not ok Torhal, not ok. |
| 00:35.13 | Torhal | :/ |
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| 00:47.00 | foxlit | >=631587200*2^25 % 2^32, 631587200/128, (631587200*2^25 + 631587200/128) % 2^32 |
| 00:47.00 | foxlit | 049342754934276 |
| 01:07.48 | Primer | So if I go to the Arachnid Quarter starting Oct. 1st, they'll credit my wow account towards the $15 monthly subscription fee? |
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| 01:59.19 | karl_w_w | yay, not i have to go to the dentist to have a wisdom tooth removed |
| 01:59.41 | karl_w_w | where not means now |
| 01:59.46 | karl_w_w | and yay means boo |
| 02:02.35 | tz | and dentist means neurosurgeon |
| 02:02.43 | tz | and wisdom tooth means brain portion |
| 02:10.37 | Mr_Rabies | and means means beans |
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| 02:28.35 | Simca | <foxlit> >=631587200*2^25 % 2^32, 631587200/128, (631587200*2^25 + 631587200/128) % 2^32 |
| 02:28.35 | Simca | <foxlit> 0 4934275 4934276 |
| 02:28.36 | Simca | lol wut |
| 02:32.13 | Simca | the first one is completely impossible alone - i'm guessing you hit the upper limit of lua numbers there? |
| 02:36.25 | Simca | i do like wolfram alpha's analysis of the result though |
| 02:36.29 | Simca | ~~ (0.91 to 9100) Ã the number of grains of sand on the earth (~~ 10^20 to 10^24) |
| 02:38.16 | Shirik | yeah I've had something similar shown to me once |
| 02:38.30 | Shirik | it was a really really long time, and it said some number x the age of the universe |
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| 02:53.30 | kd3|hate`net | eesh, the new bnet app plays poorly in wine. like it's only single-buffered now or something |
| 03:20.04 | Kodiack | What in particular performs poorly? Menus have always been kind of sluggish for me in Wine |
| 03:20.26 | kd3 | the whole thing, this build. the app flashes white for a frame or two before updating if I do anything |
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| 04:32.29 | karl_w_w | well im back and the pain is starting to kick in' |
| 04:33.35 | karl_w_w | yep, its an hour later and it finally feels like somebody pulled part of my skull out |
| 04:34.08 | Dashkal | Isn't it just so much fun! |
| 04:34.16 | Dashkal | Next up, getting crap stuck in the hole |
| 04:37.13 | karl_w_w | fuck that, stitches baby |
| 04:41.27 | karl_w_w | i just have to keep telling myself there's no such thing as pain |
| 04:41.45 | karl_w_w | it's all imagined |
| 04:44.56 | Dashkal | I hope that works better for you than it did for me... |
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| 04:53.24 | karl_w_w | oh it works great |
| 04:53.45 | karl_w_w | when used in combination with paracetamol and codeine tablets |
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| 05:29.43 | Shirik | http://www.independent.co.uk/news/weird-news/lists/grandmas-keep-accidentally-tagging-themselves-as-grandmaster-flash-on-facebook-9728582.html |
| 05:31.17 | Constie | Well I'm glad I got out of bed today. |
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| 07:43.15 | Semlar | how do you change between "stages" of an item on wowhead |
| 07:43.48 | Semlar | like http://wod.wowhead.com/item=109168&bonus=525 this is "stage 1 of 3" |
| 07:43.50 | nebula169 | it was brokt the last time i saw it, should be able to click it then select from a drop down |
| 07:43.59 | Semlar | there's nothing else on the dropdown |
| 07:44.08 | nebula169 | yea, hence the brokt |
| 07:44.28 | Semlar | well, at least the other versions of it have the same name |
| 07:45.17 | Semlar | http://wod.wowhead.com/item=109173&bonus=525#see-also i couldn't find any other versions of these though |
| 07:45.44 | Semlar | maybe they haven't been implemented yet |
| 07:46.38 | nebula169 | should be bonus=525/526/527 for the three stages |
| 07:46.57 | Semlar | i see |
| 07:47.44 | nebula169 | tooltips work, but not the item page! i remember looking at those on http://wod.wowhead.com/guide=2507/warlords-of-draenor-engineering-overview |
| 07:48.33 | Semlar | i just wanted to see if they had other models |
| 07:49.05 | Semlar | the gun gets substantially more decorated with upgrades |
| 07:50.47 | Semlar | http://wod.wowhead.com/item=111820 oh my glob |
| 07:55.36 | Semlar | are the goggles really not BoP, i'm not sure how i feel about that |
| 07:56.28 | nebula169 | yea, nothing is really bop in profs anymore ;[ |
| 07:56.41 | nebula169 | Unique-Equipped: Warlords Crafted (3) |
| 07:56.45 | nebula169 | never noticed that |
| 07:58.41 | Semlar | well, blingtron seems to be bop |
| 07:59.00 | Semlar | most of the items aren't though |
| 08:03.45 | Neffi | go to sleep semlar |
| 08:04.10 | Semlar | can't sleep clown'll eat me |
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| 08:05.46 | Semlar | http://wod.wowhead.com/item=109644 neffi |
| 08:06.13 | Neffi | I want one |
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| 08:07.34 | Simca | <Semlar> how do you change between "stages" of an item on wowhead |
| 08:07.35 | Simca | <Semlar> like http://wod.wowhead.com/item=109168&bonus=525 this is "stage 1 of 3" |
| 08:07.40 | Simca | it isn't entirely wowhead's fault |
| 08:08.00 | Semlar | can i blame them anyway? |
| 08:08.02 | Simca | blizzard coded the BonusTreeNode for 525/526/527 badly so they would have to hardcode it to make it work |
| 08:08.09 | Simca | sure |
| 08:08.24 | Semlar | good |
| 08:09.35 | Semlar | the upgraded items have different item ids though right? |
| 08:09.52 | nebula169 | don't think so, the upgrades are just flags |
| 08:10.13 | Semlar | well the gun clearly has 3 separate versions of it |
| 08:10.16 | Semlar | which are now gone, by the way |
| 08:10.28 | Semlar | wowhead HAD them in it's "see also" tab |
| 08:10.37 | Semlar | but now they aren't listed for me |
| 08:10.52 | Semlar | can't even search for them.. |
| 08:11.34 | Simca | blizzard may have decided to use the bonustree, then decided to use separate items, then decided to use the bonustree again |
| 08:11.46 | Semlar | http://wod.wowhead.com/item=109170 |
| 08:11.48 | Simca | they've been really indecisive like that on a lot of issues so far |
| 08:12.08 | Simca | yeah a level 700 blue doesn't seem likely |
| 08:12.27 | Semlar | http://wod.wowhead.com/item=109169 these are quite definitely the upgraded models for the gun though |
| 08:13.00 | Simca | if wowhead is doing it right, http://wod.wowhead.com/item=109168&bonus=526 should show the upgraded model too |
| 08:13.16 | Simca | oh wow they don't let you enter IDs manually |
| 08:13.22 | Simca | it forces you to one they 'know' |
| 08:13.32 | Simca | how fail |
| 08:14.14 | Semlar | so can you link the upgraded item in-game? |
| 08:14.26 | Semlar | if it's supposed to be part of the item link |
| 08:14.34 | Semlar | it should just be changing the bonus number |
| 08:14.43 | Simca | yeah |
| 08:14.59 | Simca | http://beta.wowdb.com/items/109168-shredirons-shredder?bonusIDs=526 and http://beta.wowdb.com/items/109168-shredirons-shredder?bonusIDs=527 will show you the tooltips for the upgraded versions if you want them |
| 08:15.15 | Simca | but we don't have the itembonus-based modelviewer changes yet |
| 08:17.15 | Semlar | well the upgraded goggles all just look the game in game |
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| 08:21.00 | Semlar | it looks like enchanting can make fake enchants just for the look without replacing the enchant on the weapon |
| 08:22.40 | Semlar | i should be able to enchant the look of my bullets |
| 08:24.34 | nebula169 | there's a talent for that |
| 08:24.55 | Semlar | what now |
| 08:25.21 | Semlar | the one that changes what your shots do? |
| 08:25.31 | nebula169 | yea |
| 08:25.34 | nebula169 | http://wod.wowhead.com/spell=162534 |
| 08:25.40 | nebula169 | :p |
| 08:25.42 | Semlar | the only talent on that tier that's worth considering is the one that makes your pet do more damage because you're going to be BM |
| 08:26.01 | Semlar | we'll see how things change at launch |
| 08:27.59 | Semlar | focusing shot has a 3 second cast time, requires you to stand still and generates a ton of focus |
| 08:28.10 | Semlar | i'm not sure what spec it would actually make sense to use with |
| 08:28.21 | Semlar | possibly marksmanship |
| 08:28.58 | Semlar | i don't like the idea of talents that only really work for one spec though, it kind of defeats the purpose |
| 08:34.46 | Simca | that's why they made talents that change by spec now |
| 08:35.33 | Semlar | yeah, but the only hunter talent that does that is lone wolf which is pretty bad right now |
| 08:40.11 | Kalroth | znf: the oneplus one arrived, yaay |
| 08:40.33 | Fisker | hey Kalroth |
| 08:40.44 | Kalroth | hej Fisker |
| 08:41.10 | Fisker | nexus 6 man |
| 08:42.52 | Kalroth | pfft |
| 08:44.57 | Fisker | :P |
| 08:51.03 | Kalroth | so windows 9, what do you think?! |
| 08:51.07 | Semlar | windows 10 |
| 08:51.12 | Kalroth | oh |
| 08:51.15 | Kalroth | did they skip 9? |
| 08:51.18 | Semlar | yes |
| 08:51.43 | Kalroth | well that's silly |
| 08:52.22 | Kalroth | oooh, they added proper paste functionality to cmd.exe |
| 08:52.48 | Kalroth | well worth it |
| 08:53.18 | nebula169 | selection works normally, too, bunch of other stuff |
| 09:00.18 | Fisker | you having a larf m8? |
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| 09:16.24 | karl_w_w | hey Fisker |
| 09:16.32 | karl_w_w | is nexus 6 the prequel to nexus 7? |
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| 09:39.15 | Semlar | if you made a macro that called /click on 3 different action buttons, would it cast the first spell that's not on cooldown or would it stop |
| 09:42.09 | karl_w_w | good question |
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| 09:42.20 | karl_w_w | I suspect if it didn't stop loads of people would be abusing it |
| 09:42.28 | Neffi | I would bet it stops |
| 09:42.44 | Neffi | this has been disallowed. I doubt such an obvious loose end has been left open for this long |
| 09:43.12 | Semlar2 | >_> |
| 09:43.48 | karl_w_w | yeah it's been disallowed since the start of lich king |
| 09:43.50 | Neffi | no, Semlar2 |
| 09:43.54 | Neffi | bring back Semlar-classic |
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| 09:44.08 | karl_w_w | when they killed enhancement shaman 1 button :( |
| 09:44.39 | karl_w_w | what is this lunacy |
| 09:44.57 | karl_w_w | who do you think you are, firefox? |
| 09:45.32 | Neffi | stop setting your foxes on fire |
| 09:45.36 | Neffi | save the foxes; use chrome |
| 09:46.10 | karl_w_w | chrome have native RSS bookmark support yet? |
| 09:46.35 | Neffi | i dont know |
| 09:46.45 | Semlar10 | i'm pretty sure they killed castrandom because of deathknights |
| 09:47.15 | Semlar10 | they were winning arenas with 1 button |
| 09:48.10 | Neffi | you mean they dont win arenas with 1 button anymore? |
| 09:48.57 | Semlar10 | they probably have to push 2 or even 3 separate keys at this point |
| 09:49.05 | Neffi | that's horrible! |
| 09:49.08 | Neffi | poor death knights |
| 09:50.14 | karl_w_w | it was in august 2009 |
| 09:54.14 | karl_w_w | it sounds like they expected the DK version to die out anyway |
| 09:54.28 | karl_w_w | "The legendary DK one-button macro is an interesting beast. It tended to work because it defaulted to Icy Touch a lot since most other abilities require melee. At the time, Icy Touch hit really, really hard." |
| 09:54.50 | Simca | I'm pretty sure you can click multiple buttons but only the first one counts as a hardware event or something weird |
| 09:55.49 | karl_w_w | I remember the enhancement version was within about 5% of somebody performing the 'rotation' correctly because they didn't have a rotation, it wasn't far off from a literal 'press whatever is off CD' |
| 09:57.12 | karl_w_w | and I remember now people would just chuck /stopcasting in there so that if it hit lightning bolt and the shaman didn't have 5 stacks of maelstrom weapon it just wouldnt cast |
| 09:58.37 | Neffi | ok, I might be going crazy |
| 09:59.17 | Simca | i have some scripts that press 2-3 buttons that work |
| 09:59.20 | Neffi | I had a review on Nvidia's new supersampling stuff up. Closed the browser. Now for the life of me I cannot find it again on the site. I searched Chrome's history and nothing |
| 09:59.26 | Simca | but they don't touch anything protected at all |
| 09:59.28 | Neffi | Did I hallucinate opening a link? |
| 09:59.31 | Simca | just UI navigation |
| 10:02.13 | Fisker | I found out how to be a jerk to shamans karl_w_w |
| 10:02.26 | karl_w_w | oh? |
| 10:02.38 | Fisker | Yeah I was up against one keeping his taunt totem up |
| 10:02.40 | Fisker | so i silenced it |
| 10:02.46 | Fisker | RIP shaman |
| 10:06.04 | karl_w_w | rip in pepperonis |
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| 10:37.28 | karl_w_w | Fisker, this is total shit |
| 10:37.49 | karl_w_w | I made an old school priest deck so that I could win every single control match |
| 10:38.14 | karl_w_w | and i come up against another priest that thoughtsteals 2 mind controls and a ragnaros |
| 10:38.37 | Fisker | :) |
| 10:38.38 | Fisker | :D |
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| 12:02.43 | airtonix | :> |
| 12:10.10 | Kalroth | (8 |
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| 12:19.31 | Neffi | cool http://techreport.com/news/27136/self-destruct-sequence-fractures-the-nand-in-ultra-secure-ssd |
| 12:47.04 | Kalroth | "The self-destruct sequence can be triggered automatically if the SATA connection is interrupted .." |
| 12:47.06 | Kalroth | welp |
| 12:47.17 | Kalroth | better make that SATA cable a quality one! |
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| 12:51.21 | airtonix | stop cryin |
| 12:52.23 | Neffi | this kinda seems like something out of a techno-fiction, honestly |
| 12:52.52 | Neffi | self-destruct sequence initiated. *sirens go off* self-destruct in 3.. 2.. 1.. *BOOM* |
| 12:53.01 | Neffi | "fuck, his porn must have been embarassing" |
| 13:01.04 | karl_w_w | i can see businesses that really don't need that level buying them and really fucking themselves up |
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| 13:14.02 | karl_w_w | man why do we have this thing tooth extraction |
| 13:14.20 | karl_w_w | why can't we just let them rot away and die young like the good old days |
| 13:14.34 | karl_w_w | blood poisoning is very underrated |
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| 13:16.43 | Neffi | Dentists secretly make sacrifices of the pulled teeth to the lord of the underworld |
| 13:16.57 | Neffi | They need as many teeth as possible to appease their deity |
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| 13:32.34 | karl_w_w | i have this gel pack which is keeping me alive right now |
| 13:32.50 | karl_w_w | coldness so good |
| 13:32.58 | Neffi | karl_w_w: licquor helps |
| 13:33.08 | Neffi | gives karl_w_w whiskey |
| 13:33.18 | karl_w_w | i doubt it |
| 13:33.38 | karl_w_w | and im on 3 medications so i doubt its a good idea |
| 13:33.50 | Neffi | no trust me. if you drink enough of it you won't feel the pain. or anything. because you'll pass out |
| 13:34.12 | karl_w_w | well its technically 5 medications in 3 pills |
| 13:34.19 | Neffi | ah, yeah, don't drink then |
| 13:45.56 | karl_w_w | wow, this xray looks almost identical to mine http://www.omfsurgeon.com.au/images/wisdom2.jpg |
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| 13:46.28 | Neffi | that pictures looks quite unnatural |
| 13:50.25 | karl_w_w | demon teeth |
| 13:51.02 | karl_w_w | my mouth was crowded when i was young so they took 2 out and gave me braces |
| 13:51.34 | karl_w_w | the other teeth apparently moved over into the room but the wisdom teeth decided they were moving so they fell over? |
| 13:51.50 | karl_w_w | s/were/weren't/ |
| 13:53.18 | Neffi | did you already get them pulled? |
| 13:55.10 | karl_w_w | the wisdom teeth? one was today |
| 13:55.15 | karl_w_w | other side in a couple of weeks |
| 13:55.58 | Neffi | Can't say that I know your pain. The gods blessed me with *mostly* perfect teeth. Probably to make up for my shitty joints. |
| 13:56.39 | karl_w_w | so you've never had a tooth taken out? |
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| 13:56.59 | Neffi | nope. no braces either. almost perfectly straight |
| 13:57.11 | Neffi | the one time I thought I had tooth pain, it turned out to be my ear |
| 13:57.47 | Neffi | I also haven't seen a dentist in over a decade. Guess I'm just lucky |
| 13:57.54 | karl_w_w | the extraction itself is almost completely painless |
| 13:58.22 | Neffi | yeah I imagine it's the now-exposed nerve that hurts |
| 13:58.29 | karl_w_w | like the only pain is the incidental lip pinching |
| 13:58.58 | karl_w_w | im not actually in pain now |
| 13:59.07 | karl_w_w | or if i am i dont care enough to notice |
| 13:59.11 | Neffi | is that because of the meds? |
| 13:59.22 | karl_w_w | codeine |
| 13:59.28 | Neffi | I've been told this stuff is supposed to be horribly painful |
| 13:59.54 | karl_w_w | it comes and goes |
| 14:00.01 | karl_w_w | its really not that bad |
| 14:00.09 | karl_w_w | i imagine i'll wake up in pain tomorrow |
| 14:00.17 | Neffi | I suppose everyone experiences it differently |
| 14:00.30 | Neffi | I know I can tolerate sharp pain. But the dull ache of a bad knee drives me crazy |
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| 14:35.08 | Lopeppeppy | Whee, joyous fun day. |
| 14:36.19 | Fisker | Let the sarcasm flow through you |
| 14:46.12 | Stanzilla | https://insider.windows.com/ |
| 14:48.53 | Alram | 1h10m before preview goes online |
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| 15:02.50 | Shirik | http://worstcats.tumblr.com/ |
| 15:02.56 | Shirik | I think I found Fisker's homepage |
| 15:03.22 | Fisker | nope |
| 15:03.36 | Fisker | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/myhomepage Shirik |
| 15:03.38 | Fisker | This is my homepage |
| 15:04.19 | mikma | nipples |
| 15:11.50 | karl_w_w | windows 10 has a start menu? |
| 15:12.07 | karl_w_w | i thought tablet users were incapable of opening menus |
| 15:13.13 | haste | they said it adapts |
| 15:13.19 | haste | so I guess it turns into metro at some point :P |
| 15:17.57 | Dagmar | The cat page is good stuff. |
| 15:19.13 | karl_w_w | i do wonder when microsoft forgot how to count |
| 15:19.35 | Dagmar | 10 is an even number. |
| 15:19.48 | karl_w_w | but hey, they're learning. 7, 8, 10 is a lot closer than nothing, 360, 1 |
| 15:19.53 | Dagmar | They're warning you up front: "This one will suck." |
| 15:20.03 | karl_w_w | :P |
| 15:21.12 | Shirik | woah, amazon sent me something via usps? |
| 15:21.16 | Shirik | I didn't even know that was a thing |
| 15:21.49 | Shirik | karl_w_w: around the time when they made windows 7 |
| 15:21.55 | Shirik | after vista, which was version 6.0 |
| 15:21.58 | Shirik | they made windows 7, version 6.1 |
| 15:22.03 | Fisker | It's still standard metro on tablet karl_w_w |
| 15:22.12 | Fisker | (i.e. owned) |
| 15:22.17 | Shirik | I think windows 8 is actually 7.0 |
| 15:26.05 | Stanzilla | they won't bump the kernel version anymore |
| 15:26.08 | Stanzilla | for compat reasons |
| 15:26.18 | Stanzilla | so it's totally independent of the marketing version number |
| 15:26.34 | Stanzilla | and win8 is 6.2 |
| 15:26.40 | Stanzilla | er .3 |
| 15:26.55 | Stanzilla | or 8.0 was 6.2 and 8.1 is 6.3 |
| 15:26.59 | Stanzilla | something like that |
| 15:27.04 | Neffi | i think that's right |
| 15:27.52 | Fisker | So in 40 years we'll be at kernel 6.9.32 Stanzilla ? |
| 15:28.23 | Stanzilla | in 40 years the kernel will be livestreamed and a git version hash number |
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| 15:30.04 | Fisker | isn't the compatibility thing mostly that people are retarded and looks at the kernel major rev for whether or not it wants to run? |
| 15:31.34 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 15:34.21 | Fisker | The conhost changes probably breaks compatibility too |
| 15:34.25 | Fisker | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 15:34.39 | Fisker | I can't run norton commander as expected anymore |
| 15:36.29 | Shirik | orrrrr |
| 15:36.39 | Shirik | people could assume that future versions of windows will work just fine |
| 15:36.52 | Shirik | considering Microsoft is extremely good at making backwards-compatible systems |
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| 15:36.59 | Shirik | which is why their API looks like shit |
| 15:38.38 | Stanzilla | they are doing lots of rewrite/working at the moment though |
| 15:39.18 | Stanzilla | the c++ runtime one is huge for example |
| 15:41.53 | Shirik | sure but they still have to maintain the old APIs |
| 15:41.56 | Shirik | which is not a bad thing |
| 15:42.51 | Shirik | just when people are first exposed to the APIs and see things like "ExEx" at the end of a function or that they have to tell the function how big the structure it asked for is |
| 15:42.56 | Shirik | they get annoyed |
| 15:48.52 | Fisker | so Stanzilla |
| 15:49.35 | Fisker | if I use chocolatey to install a program does it do something like dsc and upgrade itself as it becomes available or do I have to like an update like apt-get? |
| 15:53.05 | Neffi | well that's annoying. they don't ship an iso or install image |
| 15:53.22 | Neffi | they ship an exe, and I ran it, and now it wants to upgrade on next boot. I sure as hell hope I can cancel that |
| 15:53.25 | Stanzilla | Fisker: apt-get way |
| 15:53.43 | Stanzilla | Fisker: also the current versions does not delete older versions atm, that kinda sucks bit is already fixed in their c# rewrite |
| 15:53.58 | Stanzilla | downloads aRE LIVE B TE |
| 15:53.59 | Stanzilla | OOPS |
| 15:54.01 | Neffi | Oh, they have a link for ISO files |
| 15:54.32 | Neffi | I hope I didn't just fuck my install of Win7 by running that exe though. Does anyone know how to cancel the impending update? |
| 15:57.39 | Stanzilla | 56mins left |
| 15:57.40 | Stanzilla | zzZzzzZz |
| 15:58.56 | Fisker | 1 minute left |
| 15:59.10 | Fisker | wait |
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| 16:03.09 | Neffi | Well that's certainly a shitty design |
| 16:10.49 | karl_w_w | im still waiting for amazon to ship my warranty replacement headphones |
| 16:10.53 | karl_w_w | nearly 3 weeks now |
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| 16:11.14 | Shirik | sounds like it's time to bitch at them |
| 16:11.35 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 16:12.04 | Fisker | They sent my tablet in retail packaging |
| 16:12.05 | Fisker | :( |
| 16:12.10 | Fisker | And they even wanted me to send it back |
| 16:12.15 | Fisker | which I'm pretty sure would be illegal |
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| 16:13.06 | karl_w_w | as if you care about the law Fisker, you crazy rebel |
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| 16:18.57 | foxlit | so I have two pieces of news |
| 16:19.27 | foxlit | one is that I wrote a casc/dbc parser in lua, implementing the exportinterfacefiles command. |
| 16:19.55 | foxlit | http://pastebin.com/hgak55ms (and so much of it is trying to fix directory case :/) |
| 16:20.18 | Neffi_ | and the good news? :P |
| 16:20.48 | foxlit | and the good news is that ExportInterfaceFiles actually works in 18965. |
| 16:21.02 | foxlit | so fuck you, cat. |
| 16:21.22 | foxlit | s/fuck/screw/ |
| 16:21.47 | Neffi_ | O.O |
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| 16:37.19 | Fisker | wow foxlit |
| 16:37.23 | Fisker | my condolences |
| 16:37.50 | Fisker | I just found out that I somehow managed to not install my system with uefi support when I installed a few months back |
| 16:42.13 | zenzelezz | sounds like an ueffing mess |
| 17:10.05 | Shirik | uh oh |
| 17:10.15 | Shirik | not expected in my mail today: envelope with red letters "SAFETY RECALL NOTICE" |
| 17:15.56 | Gethe | lol https://twitter.com/mikko/status/517358472715710465/photo/1 |
| 17:16.21 | Shirik | hahhahahaha |
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| 17:23.14 | fewyn | any suggestions for headsets? i need something i can wear for hoooours |
| 17:26.14 | Shirik | At work and at home I use a G930 |
| 17:26.17 | Shirik | love it |
| 17:27.31 | fewyn | that's what i'm replacing Shirik |
| 17:27.45 | fewyn | the power button doesn't work anymore and anytime someone nearby uses a microwave it cuts out |
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| 17:35.05 | foxlit | http://www.townlong-yak.com/casc/ |
| 17:36.02 | Neffi_ | thank you foxlit |
| 17:36.56 | Neffi_ | "jenkins96" O.o how much did you test this? |
| 17:37.52 | foxlit | âit seems to work for meâ |
| 17:38.22 | Neffi_ | good enough |
| 17:38.32 | foxlit | anything about that string in particular? |
| 17:38.40 | Neffi_ | also, module() is deprecated for a reason! ;) |
| 17:38.57 | Neffi_ | nope, just wondering what it meant |
| 17:39.00 | foxlit | probably because itâs a bloody pain! |
| 17:39.13 | Neffi_ | you know you can return a table instead, right? |
| 17:39.24 | Neffi_ | require() should see that table and return it |
| 17:39.38 | Neffi_ | in other words implement your modules like in WoW, then at the end `return self` |
| 17:39.45 | foxlit | yes. |
| 17:40.10 | fewyn | https://swarmsim.github.io/# |
| 17:40.15 | Neffi_ | that's the preferred design in the community. there've been really length discussions on it, and why module() sucks |
| 17:40.50 | foxlit | and why does module() suck? |
| 17:42.10 | Neffi_ | mostly strange behavior that I glossed over |
| 17:42.20 | Neffi_ | there's a pretty lengthy wiki page on it http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaModuleFunctionCritiqued |
| 17:54.07 | foxlit | meh, most of it is âthis is mildly inconvinient" |
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| 18:22.23 | zenzelezz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugytefssqBM - half the comments so far are "this must be an old spice commercial" |
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| 20:14.40 | znf | Does anyone have an extensive list of all the BonusIDs that can be found in item links for WoD? |
| 20:15.08 | nevcairiel | some dbc file does! |
| 20:17.07 | Simca_ | I can probably give you mine, znf |
| 20:17.20 | znf | yay, give |
| 20:17.31 | znf | I need to figure out if an item has bonus stats/sockets/warforged |
| 20:17.40 | Simca_ | let me make sure people won't yell at me |
| 20:18.00 | znf | ...but not heroic/flex/normal/raid-finder etc. |
| 20:18.15 | nevcairiel | those are different item ids, arent t hey |
| 20:19.04 | znf | yup |
| 20:19.37 | Simca_ | not any more |
| 20:19.45 | znf | it's kind of confusing to have the same itemid for both heroic/mything/normal, and switch it up/down with a bonus |
| 20:19.51 | znf | Simca_, hmmm? |
| 20:20.15 | Simca_ | yeah there is one itemID for all items of the same name across all difficulties |
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| 20:21.16 | nevcairiel | ah yeah they do heroic/mythic as bonus now, and lfr has different items anyway |
| 20:21.31 | znf | guess I could just look at the number of bonusIDs of a link? |
| 20:22.15 | znf | ie: if there's only 1 bonusID and the bonus id is either 566 or 567, then the item is considered "normal" (ie: no funky stats) |
| 20:22.31 | Mr_Rabies | i really hope if they add upgrades back in they just roll "warforged" into it |
| 20:22.32 | znf | but if there's "448", the item is automatically warforged |
| 20:22.34 | Mr_Rabies | it's essentially the same thing |
| 20:23.01 | Simca_ | znf: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14ZzDzgk3ftr3PgdJTBaWksRoEu9caQs-3WWQBB9ihlQ/edit?usp=sharing |
| 20:23.11 | Mr_Rabies | just make "warforged" gear drop partially or fully upgraded, regardless of if upgrades are enabled |
| 20:23.42 | znf | great |
| 20:23.45 | Simca_ | information on which items can be warforged or have bonus stats is no longer available to anyone |
| 20:23.52 | Simca_ | and i don't think they have any plans to change that |
| 20:23.52 | znf | gdocs crashed my chrome |
| 20:24.37 | Simca_ | google products are too hard for google |
| 20:24.56 | znf | how big is that spreadsheet? :-| |
| 20:25.21 | Simca_ | well it's like 5 dbcs taped together with 2500 or so rows of formulas |
| 20:25.24 | Simca_ | so... |
| 20:25.26 | Simca_ | it's big. |
| 20:25.30 | nevcairiel | most of those ids are useless random suffixes, so screw those |
| 20:25.48 | Simca_ | blizzard really really wanted random suffixes to have variety this time for whatever reason |
| 20:26.13 | znf | hmmm |
| 20:26.13 | nevcairiel | they use them more |
| 20:26.16 | znf | 446WarforgedTest |
| 20:26.29 | znf | but warforged is 448? |
| 20:26.43 | Simca_ | Warforged is 5 different bonusIDs |
| 20:26.48 | znf | wat |
| 20:26.55 | znf | why the hell |
| 20:27.00 | Simca_ | who knows |
| 20:27.14 | Simca_ | some of these are things they did for testing and never used anywhere, some are used constantly |
| 20:28.01 | Simca_ | I know 40, 41, 42, and 43 are the four tertiary stats that can randomly roll |
| 20:28.05 | znf | I see that there's 567 and 450 for Mythic |
| 20:28.15 | Simca_ | but I heard there is a fifth one that randomly gives a socket |
| 20:28.20 | Simca_ | not sure which ID that is |
| 20:29.18 | Simca_ | I mean here: BonusID 497 adds 50 itemlevels, adds "of the Merciless" (without changing any stats), 1 yellow socket, and increases its item model to the next variant |
| 20:29.34 | Simca_ | who the hell could ever figure out what that was for |
| 20:29.37 | nevcairiel | sounds kinda powerful |
| 20:30.04 | nevcairiel | but who knows how much testing data is left in those tables |
| 20:30.14 | znf | blue socket |
| 20:30.36 | znf | for my cloth piece, it's a blue socket |
| 20:31.39 | znf | bonusID 1 seems to be simply "Heroic" |
| 20:31.46 | znf | but then there's other heroic thingies :-| |
| 20:32.38 | nevcairiel | just gather it from actual occurances in game! |
| 20:33.41 | znf | "can I have that item I just won?" |
| 20:33.52 | znf | "nope, have to investigate it first, sorry, I'm the ML, you do as I say" |
| 20:34.04 | znf | or "wait until I change the addon code" |
| 20:36.09 | nevcairiel | having the item link is enough, you dont need to keep the actual item :p |
| 20:38.10 | znf | how do you easily get the item link from an item? |
| 20:38.23 | Simca_ | easily |
| 20:38.32 | znf | ... |
| 20:38.36 | Simca_ | it's return 2 of GetItemInfo |
| 20:41.09 | znf | I need to write a function to check this, something like isItemSpecialSnowflake() |
| 20:41.25 | nevcairiel | every item is a special snowflake in wod! |
| 20:41.49 | znf | if normal/heroic/mything, then it's not a special snowflake! |
| 20:42.04 | znf | but I have no idea how to parse it :D |
| 20:42.55 | nevcairiel | wowhead seems to use 566 and 567 for heroic/mythic bonus |
| 20:43.14 | znf | would :match throw a fit if I "watch" for 2 bonus IDs but there's only one present? or return nil? |
| 20:47.58 | Simca_ | znf this is the code i use to handle it, and it works well |
| 20:51.13 | Simca_ | err here, znf: http://www.curseforge.com/paste/k5l3yabn9v1zmc2s/ |
| 20:52.44 | Simca_ | the DBEntry call you can ignore, but the rest is relevant - the snippet basically takes a variable called item_link, parses it, and then creates a table called item.bonus_ids and sets every bonusID equal to 'true' within that table |
| 20:53.03 | Simca_ | obviously in place of making that table you could do many other things with them instead |
| 20:53.56 | znf | yup |
| 20:54.13 | znf | why can't I call the function directly on an item link? :-/ |
| 20:55.22 | Simca_ | you can if you want - just add a line above line 1 of that snippet that is like "function ThisIsMyFunction(item_link)" and one after the last line as "end" and then pass your item link to the function |
| 20:55.24 | znf | I keep getting [23:55:17] Dump: ERROR: [string "return isItemSpecialSnowflake(|Hitem:99359:4433:4623:..."]:1: unexpected symbol near '|' |
| 20:55.40 | znf | I did that :P |
| 20:55.45 | Simca_ | oh if you're using that ingame |
| 20:55.57 | znf | uh, to test stuff, yeah |
| 20:56.03 | znf | I will also get inputs from chat :-/ |
| 20:56.07 | Simca_ | blizzard auto replaces all "|" with "||" if you enter it via the chat |
| 20:56.13 | Simca_ | replace all | with ]\ |
| 20:56.16 | Simca_ | \124 |
| 20:56.34 | Simca_ | (the ascii char code for it) |
| 20:58.55 | foxlit | have you tried reading the error message, though? |
| 20:59.29 | Simca_ | unexpected symbol near '|' implies that it is reading the |s wrong and screwing up the :find function |
| 20:59.43 | Simca_ | which it would be doing unless loaded from .lua |
| 20:59.55 | foxlit | it doesnât, though. |
| 21:00.24 | Simca_ | what do you mean it doesn't |
| 21:00.33 | znf | wait, head hurt, what do you mean? |
| 21:01.18 | foxlit | | isnât magical and canât âscrew up the :find function" |
| 21:02.04 | foxlit | it might make your pattern not much, but that doesnât get you an âunexpected symbol near '|'" |
| 21:02.11 | foxlit | s/much/match/ |
| 21:03.52 | Simca_ | i'm using the code right now and it works, and the only symbols near | that would be different if used ingame are that the | would be || |
| 21:04.08 | Simca_ | so if there is any other error i don't know why |
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| 21:04.18 | Simca_ | so it seemed like a good place to start |
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| 21:06.27 | foxlit | youâre not wrong in that pipe duplication may cause problems; itâs just that you should be able to figure out what is actually going wrong from the error message rather than resorting to guesswork. |
| 21:06.39 | foxlit | In this case, znf is just plain not-quoting strings |
| 21:07.00 | foxlit | > =boo(|Hitem:hiss|h) |
| 21:07.00 | foxlit | stdin:1: unexpected symbol near '|' |
| 21:07.41 | Mr_Rabies | wonder how easy it is to write an addon that simply adds a keybinding section for the random mount function added in 6.0 |
| 21:08.02 | Simca_ | very easy, Mr_Rabies |
| 21:08.13 | Mr_Rabies | i really don't want to drag that out to a spot and rebind an action bar on every character |
| 21:08.19 | foxlit | Use XML! |
| 21:08.37 | Mr_Rabies | i'd rather it just use my universal binds and let me bind it directly |
| 21:08.46 | Mr_Rabies | it's kinda crazy that it's not already directly bindable |
| 21:08.56 | Simca_ | pollution via bindings.xml used to be annoying but now it is probably less so since they split it up into sections |
| 21:08.58 | foxlit | although itâs mildly lame that youâd still want to declare globals even if you do that. |
| 21:09.37 | Simca_ | foxlit: yeah I don't have much experience looking at lua error messages. I pick out the line number and debug my own code at a glance; it's virtually always obvious what is wrong |
| 21:10.48 | znf | http://www.wowace.com/paste/10704/ |
| 21:11.02 | znf | shouldn't this just take an itemLink as an argument? |
| 21:11.03 | znf | even from chat? |
| 21:11.28 | Simca_ | yeah znf foxlit pointed out the issue, your itemlink isn't in quotes when you passed it as an argument |
| 21:11.35 | znf | Oh |
| 21:11.42 | znf | sorry, really terrible headache |
| 21:12.51 | Simca_ | loot toasts have been not working for the past 4 builds |
| 21:12.58 | Simca_ | i really really really hope it is a bug |
| 21:13.15 | znf | great, I get empty result wth |
| 21:14.06 | Simca_ | i assume your item link had a bonus id |
| 21:14.10 | Simca_ | ? |
| 21:14.14 | znf | yup |
| 21:14.56 | znf | Oh. |
| 21:15.35 | Simca_ | your if statement on line 17 has issues |
| 21:16.11 | Simca_ | to get a bonusID, you do tonumber(item_results[bonus_index + 13]) in this case |
| 21:16.25 | Simca_ | since the item_results table is what contains all the bonus_ids |
| 21:20.07 | znf | oh |
| 21:20.10 | znf | my item_link ends up being nil |
| 21:20.44 | znf | item_string |
| 21:20.49 | znf | geez, I should take a pill or somethin |
| 21:38.39 | znf | Simca_, thanks! this worked http://www.wowace.com/paste/10705/ |
| 21:39.30 | Simca_ | yup np |
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| 22:03.17 | znf | Oh. Crap. |
| 22:03.30 | znf | The old items (pre-6.0) don't follow the same itemlink schema |
| 22:09.37 | znf | Simca_, help me out with something else if you can |
| 22:10.11 | znf | Simca_, I have http://pastebin.com/iY29gkry |
| 22:10.27 | znf | Simca_, but itemLink ends up being partial |
| 22:11.05 | znf | when called from the command line with my /slash eval itemlink command |
| 22:11.09 | znf | what am I doing wrong there? |
| 22:21.49 | kd3 | ah, the real reason MS skipped to windows 10... https://searchcode.com/?q=if%28version%2Cstartswith%28%22windows+9%22%29 |
| 22:22.22 | Dagmar | I figured it was German localization |
| 22:22.44 | Dagmar | ...or course, this doesn't really explain why they decided to make 'Windows Me' a number nine |
| 22:25.35 | znf | I'm not reading Windows Me as 9 |
| 22:25.44 | znf | I'm reading Me as 9x (ie: 95, 98 etc.) |
| 22:25.56 | znf | it says startsWith |
| 22:30.49 | nebula169 | they could have saved some ridicule by including that reasoning in the announcement :p |
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| 22:31.19 | nebula169 | instead some random dev posts it on reddit |
| 22:31.32 | znf | heh |
| 22:31.37 | foxlit | everyone and their grandmother has an opinion on what they should do. |
| 22:33.24 | foxlit | canât really avoid those, so why bother? |
| 22:37.49 | nebula169 | well there had to be some reasoning behind skipping a number, telling people "because it's just that big of an improvement!" was kind of silly |
| 23:07.03 | *** join/#wowuidev smcn (smcn@174-25-84-63.ptld.qwest.net) |
| 23:18.33 | TC-Work | Or because the Xbox division infected them. |
| 23:20.06 | Constie | 7+8 is way more than 9, but skipping too many would be silly. |
| 23:20.51 | TC-Work | Or the old joke of 7 8 9. |
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| 23:34.24 | Gethe | would it really have been better if they basicly said "Some of you are making dumb, hard version checks, so you forced us to skip it." |
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| 23:51.04 | Shirik | I posted this this morning |
| 23:51.06 | Torhal | Gethe: Incoming startsWith("1") |
| 23:51.07 | Shirik | nobody listens to Shirik :( |
| 23:51.27 | Shirik | I take it back; I didn't post it here, I received it here |
| 23:51.32 | Shirik | then posted it elsewhere |
| 23:51.32 | Gethe | Torhal: :/ |
| 23:51.39 | Shirik | Gethe found it! |
| 23:51.57 | Gethe | i find everything |
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