| 00:00.13 | Jamash | mazinger is batman with giant robots isn't it |
| 00:00.25 | Jamash | in terms of supervillain character design |
| 00:01.04 | Mr_Rabies | eh, not really |
| 00:01.55 | Mr_Rabies | there's doctor hell, who isn't a doctor and is more of an evil wizard type guy, he's the big bad |
| 00:02.22 | Mr_Rabies | count brocken is a nazi with a detachable head, baron ashura who is two lovers cut in half and fused together |
| 00:03.14 | Jamash | so, yes |
| 00:03.41 | Mr_Rabies | Viscount pygman, who is a shapeshifting witch doctor |
| 00:03.47 | Mr_Rabies | i don't really see how any of those are like batman, though D: |
| 00:03.52 | Jamash | two-face |
| 00:04.30 | Jamash | captain nazi |
| 00:04.35 | Mr_Rabies | oh, baron ashura's a totally different thing than two face |
| 00:04.58 | Mr_Rabies | there really aren't many similarities other than they're split right down the middle |
| 00:05.29 | Mr_Rabies | baron ashura is two people working as one, two face is one person torn into two by a traumatic event |
| 00:06.51 | Jamash | tomato, tomato |
| 00:07.35 | Jamash | anyway comic book villains look like comic book villains I guess |
| 00:08.47 | Mr_Rabies | shin mazinger is basically "what's the most insane and raddest thing that could happen right now? let's do that!" |
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| 00:14.44 | Mr_Rabies | directed by the same guy as giant robo, g gundam, and the tetsujin 28 show from...2008? |
| 00:15.06 | Semlar | Jamash: quest reset is 3am pdt and independent of server time |
| 00:15.21 | Jamash | oh, I play on a pacific server so I din't know |
| 00:15.26 | Jamash | *didn't |
| 00:15.43 | Semlar | it's 6am for me on the east coast |
| 00:15.49 | Jamash | yeah, same |
| 00:15.54 | Mr_Rabies | i miss resets being at like 3AM :( |
| 00:15.55 | Jamash | I moved from California |
| 00:16.13 | Mr_Rabies | i could do two -whatevers- that reset at that time in a single batch |
| 00:16.24 | Mr_Rabies | well, a single play session |
| 00:16.43 | Semlar | the major regions have different reset times though |
| 00:17.45 | Jamash | obviously |
| 00:18.54 | Mr_Rabies | lol i got vote brigaded hard on the latest druid travel form complaint thread |
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| 00:50.37 | Jamash | wut? |
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| 00:58.22 | Mr_Rabies | buncha people that probably haven't tried it are complaining about the changes to travel form in 6.0 |
| 00:58.34 | Mr_Rabies | apparently a lot of people like to afk in town as a cheetah? |
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| 01:00.35 | Teht | Hey all, I'm looking for someone who can help me with scanning tooltips |
| 01:00.55 | Teht | I'm trying to use the "Pure Lua compact solution" at http://wowpedia.org/UIOBJECT_GameTooltip |
| 01:01.48 | Teht | But I'm getting errors in FrameXML/GameTooltip.lua:121 when I try to use SetLootItem() on the gametooltip |
| 01:02.04 | kd3|hate`net | paste the whole error on pastebin or a similar site |
| 01:02.18 | Teht | Will do, reproducing shortly |
| 01:02.31 | Teht | The error, I mean |
| 01:02.48 | TC-Work | No no, we thought you were having sex. |
| 01:02.51 | TC-Work | That or mitosis. |
| 01:03.05 | Teht | lol |
| 01:08.12 | Teht | Grr |
| 01:08.24 | Semlar | past your coooooode |
| 01:08.26 | Teht | Have to get a green to drop to reproduce the error |
| 01:08.31 | Teht | Now it's refusing to >.< |
| 01:08.50 | Semlar | we don't need the error, let us see the script |
| 01:09.00 | Teht | The whole file? |
| 01:09.04 | Semlar | sure |
| 01:09.24 | Teht | http://privatepaste.com/a93fa424b3 |
| 01:09.46 | Teht | I create the tooltip in the OnInitialize function at line 495 |
| 01:10.09 | Teht | The error is at line 627 when I try to do JambaAdvancedLootScanningTooltip:SetLootItem(slot) |
| 01:10.40 | Teht | And it's pointing to the error being in blizzard's GameTooltip.lua at line 121 |
| 01:10.46 | Teht | Which is |
| 01:10.51 | Teht | moneyFrame:SetPoint("LEFT", frame:GetName().."TextLeft"..numLines, "LEFT", xOffset, 0); |
| 01:11.46 | Semlar | this is on live? |
| 01:11.53 | Teht | Yep |
| 01:13.35 | Semlar | i would remove the "AddFontStrings" part after you create the tooltip |
| 01:13.55 | Teht | Not needed anymore? |
| 01:14.24 | Semlar | uh i have no idea what that will do if you manually add font strings to a tooltip inheriting the template |
| 01:14.35 | Semlar | because it automatically creates the font strings when it needs them |
| 01:15.15 | Teht | Ah |
| 01:15.36 | Teht | Giving it a try now, have one window running the new code and another running the old code |
| 01:15.37 | Semlar | aside from that i'm not seeing anything obviously wrong |
| 01:15.54 | Semlar | you are looping over the font strings in a fairly inefficient way but i think it should still work |
| 01:16.42 | Semlar | yeesh, someone should really rewrite this wowpedia article |
| 01:17.13 | Semlar | someone other than me, i mean |
| 01:24.19 | infamousX | "Do you think there's any chance that in the future Death Knights will start at level 1? It's weird them being the odd ones out." |
| 01:24.27 | infamousX | "Not likely, the experience is intended to be special. Might revisit the hero class concept again at some point." (Muffinus) |
| 01:24.34 | infamousX | Please, no! |
| 01:25.24 | infamousX | Hero class was a good concept with bad implementation. Keep them far away! |
| 01:35.15 | Semlar | Teht: i'm a little worried that you're running this in a while loop |
| 01:36.18 | Teht | Yeah |
| 01:36.22 | Teht | Much of it isn't my code |
| 01:36.27 | Semlar | there is going to be a delay between telling the server to loot the items and it actually clearing out the slots |
| 01:36.34 | Teht | Well |
| 01:36.39 | Semlar | so this is probably going to run like 20 times |
| 01:36.43 | Teht | That isn't really causing me any problems |
| 01:37.03 | Teht | It's all proven to work properly for me except when it sees a green boe item |
| 01:37.17 | Teht | Then the that setlootitem is throwing errors |
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| 01:37.27 | Teht | Still trying to get another green to drop to test with :-P |
| 01:37.53 | Jamash | infamousX: I <3 hero classes |
| 01:38.41 | Semlar | well you're calling AJM:IsBOE on every slot, so if it's only throwing the error when you actually find a green it has to be after the tooltip code.. |
| 01:39.34 | Semlar | so it's probably somewhere in that block |
| 01:39.53 | Semlar | once it discovers that you have a BOE item it executes those lines and something in there is throwing the error |
| 01:41.09 | Semlar | if it were an issue with the tooltip code it should be throwing an error every time you open the loot window |
| 01:41.09 | Teht | You mean the while block? |
| 01:41.31 | Semlar | no i mean everything inside of "if AJM:IsBOE(slot) then" |
| 01:41.38 | Teht | Well |
| 01:41.39 | Teht | Keep in mind |
| 01:41.46 | Teht | It's throwing in IsBOP |
| 01:41.51 | Semlar | you said boe |
| 01:42.09 | Teht | It's throwing it in IsBOP, which I find a piece of green boe gear in my loot window |
| 01:42.17 | Teht | It does run IsBOP still |
| 01:42.29 | Teht | Coincidentally |
| 01:42.35 | Teht | The BoP check works perfectly with no errors |
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| 01:42.47 | Teht | It's finding all my blue bop drops and not complaining |
| 01:42.54 | Semlar | it's throwing the error only with green items in the BoP code |
| 01:43.09 | Teht | Green BoE items, correct |
| 01:43.45 | Teht | It should be returning false from IsBOP |
| 01:43.59 | Teht | But instead it's throwing errors at JambaAdvancedLootScanningTooltip:SetLootItem(slot) |
| 01:44.02 | Teht | Keep in mind |
| 01:44.12 | Teht | This was before I took out AddFontStrings |
| 01:44.23 | Teht | I'm STILL trying to get a damn green to drop :-P |
| 01:44.55 | Semlar | i suspect removing the font strings isn't going to fix whatever is wrong here |
| 01:45.31 | Semlar | maybe if you can trigger the error again you can copy it |
| 01:45.34 | Teht | I'm thinking about going and playing in RFC |
| 01:45.43 | Teht | Just so I can get the damn error to pop again |
| 01:47.17 | Teht | Yahtzee |
| 01:47.25 | Teht | And |
| 01:47.29 | Teht | It appears it did fix the problem |
| 01:47.35 | Teht | But pasting error now |
| 01:47.59 | Teht | http://privatepaste.com/a6fbde5602 |
| 01:48.22 | Semlar | are there other errors in the window |
| 01:48.49 | Teht | It appears so |
| 01:48.56 | Teht | Let me post all, 1 sec |
| 01:50.55 | Teht | http://privatepaste.com/5f664b795a |
| 01:50.56 | Teht | There |
| 01:51.03 | Teht | That's all errors related |
| 01:51.16 | Teht | I left out the ones I have coming from TradeSkillMaster |
| 01:51.41 | Teht | And again |
| 01:52.18 | Teht | No errors without the MyScanningTooltip:AddFontStrings section in place |
| 01:53.20 | Semlar | so removing the font strings fixed it? |
| 01:53.23 | Teht | Yep |
| 01:53.34 | Semlar | well, problem solved forever |
| 01:53.37 | Teht | Just reloaded ui on the other windows, they don't get the error now |
| 01:53.54 | Teht | Wondering if the font strings were making the gametooltip instance too limited |
| 01:56.00 | Semlar | i'm doing flex with my guild and all of the dps is hunters and rogues |
| 01:57.16 | Semlar | were any of those people complaining about not finding a flex group horde? |
| 01:57.59 | Neffi_ | I want to work in this office http://imgur.com/gallery/FRgtQ |
| 02:02.07 | Torhal | removes Semlar's FontStrings. |
| 02:03.25 | Neffi_ | points a high powered gamma ray gun at Torhal to flip random bits |
| 02:08.11 | Teht | lol |
| 02:08.15 | Teht | Same Torhal |
| 02:08.22 | Teht | <- Goldblum btw |
| 02:08.38 | Torhal | Name-change, eh? :) |
| 02:08.42 | Teht | Eh |
| 02:08.52 | Teht | Different name for wow than for wildstar yeah |
| 02:08.57 | Torhal | Aah |
| 02:14.22 | kd3 | an expected ms-minecraft tie-in? http://i.imgur.com/qTJ7Wb5.jpg |
| 02:16.10 | fewyn | we can only hope |
| 02:16.48 | Iriel | We can hope it stops there, anyway |
| 02:17.08 | kd3 | if they're planning on making back the 2.5B they spent in FY2015, yah, not so much |
| 02:18.00 | Iriel | Minecraft 2: Craft Harder |
| 02:18.26 | Iriel | Freemium, where diamonds can only be extracted with a real money transaction (or traded on the AH) |
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| 02:38.24 | Arrowmaster | i am so fucking excited right now |
| 02:39.18 | Arrowmaster | the excitement from the weekend hasnt worn off yet and ive added even more too it just now |
| 02:41.09 | znf | I hope someone can figure out how to make those annoying garrison animations GTFO |
| 02:41.19 | znf | when you complete mission reports, I mean |
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| 04:03.43 | Thunder_Child | Heh, I just got an email about making sure to regester my .church site. |
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| 04:14.00 | Fisker | Have you visited .church recently Thunder_Child ? |
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| 04:15.42 | Torhal | http://fisker.church |
| 04:16.15 | Fisker | hallowed are the Fisker |
| 04:16.55 | Thunder_Child | I would have gone with 'Hallowed are thy Fisker.' |
| 04:17.10 | Thunder_Child | But in answer to your question, not that I know of. |
| 04:24.32 | Arrow|phone | Damn time warner went out |
| 04:38.25 | Thunder_Child | Only an issue if you have time warner. |
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| 04:43.54 | jefferyw | are any of the addon authors of wow-pro in here? |
| 04:44.17 | Primer | WTF is wow-pro? |
| 04:44.25 | jefferyw | its a leveling guide addon |
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| 04:45.01 | Thunder_Child | Geez, that doesn't sound shady at all. |
| 04:45.13 | jefferyw | it integrates with tom tom and gives you arrows to quests |
| 04:45.21 | jefferyw | and npcs to pick up and turn in quests |
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| 04:46.03 | jefferyw | it was designed in a way that anyone can write a guide to use with it |
| 04:46.08 | jefferyw | pretty awesome actually |
| 04:48.42 | jefferyw | curse client says I have v1.0.0 installed but its actually v1.7.7 |
| 04:49.14 | jefferyw | so I guess telling curse client to ignore the addon and update it by hand was a quick fix |
| 04:54.15 | Semlar | doesn't the game pretty much point out everywhere you need to go and everything you need to do for quests |
| 04:57.10 | Primer | it does, but I'm guessing this is a "power leveling" guide |
| 04:57.21 | Semlar | Teht: the "pure lua compact solution" on that wowpedia page is clearly not supposed to be inheriting GameTooltipTemplate |
| 04:59.09 | Semlar | it looks like this was written in 2008 by saiket |
| 04:59.25 | Semlar | and nobody fixed it |
| 05:01.02 | Semlar | nope, someone changed it after he wrote it |
| 05:18.16 | Torhal | changes Semlar and loses the revision history. |
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| 06:23.22 | Jamash | praise bob, it works |
| 06:23.28 | Jamash | IT WORKS |
| 06:24.36 | Jamash | ...it doesn't work |
| 06:24.42 | Jamash | effing mangle |
| 06:24.46 | Neffi_ | lol |
| 06:24.58 | Neffi_ | whatcha workin on? |
| 06:29.17 | Jamash | Learning Aid |
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| 07:03.06 | Jamash | mangle has three spellids |
| 07:03.14 | Jamash | bashes his head against his desk repeatedly |
| 07:04.29 | Neffi_ | aye, that it does |
| 07:11.49 | Torhal | So apparently embedded textures can work like SetTexCoord, but the coords aren't normalized. |
| 07:11.54 | Torhal | And I have no clue what that means. |
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| 07:19.13 | Jamash | my problem is that unlike, say, every other spell, mangle not only has multiple spellids but the spellid changes without the player changing spec or learning/unlearning talents |
| 07:19.28 | Jamash | I guess I have to treat shapeshifting like the aforementioned major class events |
| 07:20.02 | Jamash | in that they invalidate existing spellbook data |
| 07:20.15 | Jamash | spellbook *and* actionbar data |
| 07:20.28 | Jamash | in the meantime, sleep |
| 07:22.01 | Neffi_ | happens for other spells too. swipe. wild charge. a few others |
| 07:22.10 | Neffi_ | oh, he skidooed |
| 07:30.42 | zenzelezz | I know it's not entirely correct to look at it this way, but heh:â¯https://twitter.com/_youhadonejob/status/511671506985058304/photo/1 |
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| 07:47.56 | Neffi_ | lol |
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| 09:09.32 | Torhal | Ok, figured it out. Non-normalized means actual pixels. |
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| 09:59.13 | karl_w_w | so no one told you life was gonna be this way |
| 09:59.30 | karl_w_w | your job's a joke, you're broke, love life's DOA |
| 10:02.51 | Kalroth | why so emo |
| 10:03.17 | karl_w_w | emo? that's a cheery song! |
| 10:03.33 | Kalroth | oh |
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| 10:56.22 | znf | Why isn't this working? http://www.wowace.com/paste/10630/ |
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| 11:28.15 | Teht | Semlar: If I remove the template, do I need to put the AddFontStrings back in? |
| 11:28.33 | Teht | Concerned about fixing something that isn't broken right now... |
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| 12:25.31 | Lopeppeppy | Happy Twos-daze. |
| 12:29.48 | Fisker | daze indeed |
| 12:29.54 | Fisker | flying hug tackles Lopeppeppy |
| 12:31.45 | Kalroth | doozy daze |
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| 12:34.39 | Lopeppeppy | You're gonna put your back out that way, Fisker. |
| 12:35.44 | Fisker | maybe |
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| 12:44.10 | Fisker | I almost slept 2 hours today Lopeppeppy |
| 12:44.27 | Lopeppeppy | Sleep is a very good thing to have. |
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| 13:34.56 | Semlar | Teht: yeah, the whole point of that section is to create a lightweight scanning tooltip without inheriting the GameTooltipTemplate |
| 13:35.23 | Semlar | Teht: if you don't inherit the template you have to create the font strings yourself for each line you want to be able to read |
| 13:54.09 | Fisker | curls up behind Lopeppeppy |
| 13:54.38 | Lopeppeppy | Backrests have to deal with cranky web server admins, Fisker. Just warning! |
| 13:55.08 | Fisker | That's fine I'm going to sleep |
| 13:55.33 | Kalroth | nn Fisker |
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| 13:56.19 | Fisker | I wish but not yet |
| 14:14.38 | Fisker | Do you know when coworkers are stupid Lopeppeppy ? |
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| 14:22.35 | Kalroth | i know, i know! i got a lot of stupid coworkers |
| 14:22.46 | Kalroth | in fact they're all stupid, i'm the only clever one |
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| 15:08.04 | Lopeppeppy | Excruciating staff meeting is excruciating. Like, Unforgivable Curse level. |
| 15:08.18 | Fisker | :( |
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| 15:17.16 | Lopeppeppy | But I have lunch now, all is right with the world. |
| 15:17.57 | Fisker | But it's early |
| 15:18.27 | Lopeppeppy | Hangry! |
| 15:18.46 | Fisker | :O |
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| 15:18.48 | Fisker | hides |
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| 15:19.41 | Lopeppeppy | Food service here makes awesome clam chowder. This has prevented many a death. |
| 15:20.12 | Fisker | Don't be hangry though |
| 15:20.32 | Lopeppeppy | That's why early lunch. |
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| 15:21.02 | Fisker | Ah ok |
| 15:24.46 | Lopeppeppy | Oh god, I love campus safety logs! "At 5:50 p.m. a fire alarm in the XXXXXX apartments was activated to due cooking, again." (there were 8 total instance of this in two days) |
| 15:26.40 | Mr_Rabies | reminds me of my time in the dorms |
| 15:26.48 | Mr_Rabies | i eventually stopped really responding to them |
| 15:28.07 | Mr_Rabies | you'd think they'd install a more reliable fire alarm in the communal kitchen in the basement |
| 15:28.17 | Mr_Rabies | because even the slightest amount of smoke would set it off |
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| 15:52.23 | Jamash | I have a crazy idea. Now to see if it's crazy *enough*. |
| 16:33.51 | Fisker | gives Lopeppeppy a thumbs up |
| 16:34.18 | Lopeppeppy | How the hell is it only just past noon? |
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| 16:35.04 | Fisker | You hate lunch early Lopeppeppy |
| 16:35.18 | Lopeppeppy | It's also raining. Rainy days go slowly. |
| 16:38.25 | Fisker | :( |
| 16:41.19 | Fisker | I just ate dinner though |
| 16:41.55 | Lopeppeppy | Food is good. |
| 16:43.08 | Fisker | Sometimes |
| 16:49.28 | Jamash | yay, didn't have to go with crazy idea |
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| 16:52.56 | Jamash | oy, lua patterns |
| 16:59.14 | Jamash | line:find("^(/cast[sequncradom]*)%s+") |
| 17:00.00 | Jamash | ಠ_ಠ|
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| 17:03.09 | foxlit | (/%S+)%s+ |
| 17:06.14 | Lopeppeppy | Crazy is as crazy does. |
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| 17:19.26 | TC-Work | I wish it was raining. |
| 17:25.27 | foxlit | TC-Work: http://go-hero.net/i/rain.mp4 |
| 17:27.25 | TC-Work | Thank you foxlit, but that doesn't really substitute for real rain. |
| 17:27.47 | TC-Work | That and I don't use audio on my linux machine. |
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| 17:28.28 | Fisker | I wish it was 3-4 hours in the future |
| 17:28.35 | Fisker | So I could sleep already |
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| 17:29.19 | foxlit | TC-Work: I suppose I'm lucky your linux machine uses a screen. |
| 17:29.50 | Fisker | I miss rain.mp4 |
| 17:31.00 | TC-Work | foxlit: I suspect my linux machine is quite a bit more powerful than yours. |
| 17:31.44 | Fisker | Stop comparing lunicks machine |
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| 17:33.47 | TC-Work | Why? |
| 17:34.03 | Fisker | It's bad for your health |
| 17:34.39 | foxlit | TC-Work: "my"? :) |
| 17:35.06 | Fisker | "your" |
| 17:35.30 | Fisker | I got retribution foxlit |
| 17:37.55 | kd3 | oh wow. they're completely pulling the legendary cloak chain? |
| 17:38.06 | foxlit | no. |
| 17:38.43 | foxlit | or at least they've made comments to the effect that they'll be removing the valor step of that chain, which would've been an odd thing to comment on if they're removing the entire thing. |
| 17:39.02 | kd3 | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/15910699 |
| 17:39.24 | foxlit | "one final opportunity *to make accelerated progress* on your quest." |
| 17:39.35 | kd3 | "With the release of the pre-expansion patch (6.0.2), players who are not already on the journey through this quest line will no longer be able to begin it. We will also be removing the Test of Valor step with patch 6.0.2 as a part of our transition from using Valor as a currency." |
| 17:39.46 | Fisker | :< |
| 17:39.54 | foxlit | heh, teaches me to skip intermediate paragraphs. |
| 17:40.02 | Fisker | foxlit learned a lesson |
| 17:42.34 | TC-Work | foxlit: Your what? |
| 17:43.35 | Fisker | however kd3 |
| 17:43.38 | Fisker | I noticed you quassel |
| 17:44.01 | kd3 | yep |
| 17:44.07 | foxlit | TC-Work: it's a direct quote, so not mine but yours. I'm trying to qualify your relation to that linux machine :) |
| 17:44.54 | TC-Work | foxlit: My 'relation'? Well, we are going to elope next month....what exactly do you mean? |
| 17:44.57 | Fisker | draws a line behind Shirik |
| 17:45.22 | foxlit | ownership, TC-Work, ownership. |
| 17:45.31 | TC-Work | foxlit: Work machine. |
| 17:46.21 | foxlit | and perhaps exclusivity of access. |
| 17:46.24 | foxlit | Are we comparing HPC clusters here? |
| 17:47.13 | TC-Work | No, but if we did that there are a few servers running around here. |
| 17:47.36 | Fisker | boys boys |
| 17:47.37 | Fisker | calm down |
| 17:48.19 | Mr_Rabies | man what is with me getting a bunch of 80s anime themes stuck in my head lately, i think i'm subconciously hyping for AWA |
| 17:48.37 | foxlit | Then you're probably right. Still a pity about the lack of audio :) |
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| 17:50.10 | TC-Work | Well I have a windows machine right next to it that I listen to music off of, but IRC is not running there. |
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| 18:03.03 | foxlit | Wish Lua had continue :( |
| 18:03.44 | foxlit | adding a flag and wrapping a large chunk of a while loop in an if seems so unappealing. |
| 18:04.45 | Arrowmaster | well its got goto now....... |
| 18:05.48 | nebula169 | goto continue, BAM |
| 18:09.20 | foxlit | this is still 5.1. |
| 18:14.13 | Mr_Rabies | you going to AWA this year, kd3? |
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| 18:19.32 | Jamash | is it possible for a user-created secure action button to toggle a flyout during combat? |
| 18:19.49 | Neffi_ | yes |
| 18:19.56 | Jamash | how? |
| 18:20.10 | Neffi_ | I don't actually know, but it should be possible |
| 18:20.18 | Jamash | I must specify that the button is not associated with an actionID |
| 18:20.22 | Neffi_ | I've only done very limited work with secure stuff, sorry |
| 18:20.32 | Jamash | if it were, that wouldn't be a problem |
| 18:23.10 | Jamash | the problem seems to be that in SecureTemplates.lua, SECURE_ACTIONS.flyout calls SpellFlyout:Toggle(flyoutId, self, direction, 3, true); and the "true" indicates that the button is an action bar button |
| 18:23.45 | Jamash | I should check on the PTR and see if that's still the case |
| 18:24.59 | tlund | Can someone who has done a bit of coding recently please have a look at the HandyNotes addons by Xinhuan (who is MIA)? It think it needs a few minor tweaks for PTR/Beta, but I have have been away from wow long enough that I feel unsure where to start. :( |
| 18:27.57 | tlund | I think the first problem is references to old globals "Cosmic" and "World" that no longer exist |
| 18:29.44 | Mr_Rabies | urgh |
| 18:29.52 | Mr_Rabies | getting constant "you are not in a raid group" spam on my hunter |
| 18:29.54 | Mr_Rabies | i don't know whyyyyyy |
| 18:31.17 | Jamash | Mr_Rabies: Are you in a raid group? |
| 18:31.25 | Mr_Rabies | in an instance group |
| 18:31.28 | Mr_Rabies | some addon thinks i'm in a raid |
| 18:38.20 | Jamash | binary search time! |
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| 18:39.03 | Mr_Rabies | eh i'll just deal with the error messages |
| 18:40.32 | Jamash | that's, um, interesting, on ptr if I cast a spell from the Learning Aid window, every button turns on the "checked" highlight texture |
| 18:45.56 | Jamash | I'm so smart I set my addon up so if I turn debug mode off I can't turn it back on |
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| 19:37.48 | Neffi_ | hook the place where the message is being printed and throw a debugstack() into a window. you'll probably taint things, but you might be able to find the source if the message is being generated in framexml, or the event generating it |
| 19:38.24 | Neffi_ | if it's event-generated, I suppose that info is rather useless |
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| 21:03.43 | plaw | for those who've not seen it... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BxnTObKCcAAN1k5.jpg |
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| 21:06.45 | Kalroth | how do we know if we've not seen it before we see it? |
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| 21:19.22 | Neffi_ | asking the right questions |
| 21:20.12 | foxlit | Mildly annoying coding exercise: lower case all string keys in a Lua table. |
| 21:20.23 | foxlit | (so {Foo = "bar"} becomes {foo = "bar"}) |
| 21:21.53 | kd3 | oh wow, the source code to commander keen is out |
| 21:21.59 | kd3 | https://github.com/keendreams/keen |
| 21:22.22 | Jamash | sweet |
| 21:22.23 | Neffi_ | foxlit: heh, that is annoying. Gotta use an intermediate table to hold the new values, and then apply them after |
| 21:22.30 | Neffi_ | hold the new keys* |
| 21:25.50 | Jamash | why, does Lua not like table["a"] = "b" if table["A"] already exists? |
| 21:26.40 | Neffi_ | Jamash: inserting a new field during pairs() or next() iteration yields undefined behavior in the iterator |
| 21:27.01 | Jamash | ah |
| 21:27.33 | Jamash | so it's not changing the case of keys per se, it's changing anything at all about keys |
| 21:28.03 | Neffi_ | It's removing the old key and adding a new key, which happens to look similar to the old key when printed ;) |
| 21:28.33 | Gnarfoz | kd3: nice |
| 21:29.36 | Jamash | you can eliminate intermediate tables in lua by using function argument lists as if they were "auto" lists, but you probably shouldn't |
| 21:30.03 | Neffi_ | how do you mean? |
| 21:30.09 | Jamash | um, let me see |
| 21:30.20 | Jamash | basically it involves treating Lua as though it were Lisp |
| 21:30.47 | Neffi_ | I'm not familiar with Lisp. Do you mean creating a closure on the fly that does the work, storing the data in upvalues? |
| 21:30.55 | Jamash | no, just argument lists |
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| 21:31.51 | Neffi_ | I'm not sure how you would go about that. I think I'm misunderstanding |
| 21:32.23 | Jamash | function cons(a, ...) return a, ... end; function car(a, ...) return a end; function cdr(a, ...) return ... end |
| 21:32.35 | Jamash | something like that |
| 21:33.02 | Jamash | you can then define recursive functions that repeatedly add to and subtract from argument lists without creating intermediate tables |
| 21:33.13 | Jamash | you're creating stack frames instead of tables basically |
| 21:33.18 | Neffi | So you're really just creating a closure so you can store the data in the stack |
| 21:33.32 | Jamash | I wouldn't call it a closure, no |
| 21:33.38 | Jamash | it's just a function |
| 21:33.40 | Neffi | ah, right, it's not a closure |
| 21:34.04 | Neffi | In Lua this is probably much less efficient than using arrays |
| 21:34.07 | Jamash | yes |
| 21:34.12 | foxlit | nevermind efficiency. |
| 21:34.23 | foxlit | you'd run out of stack space far faster than you'd run out of heap. |
| 21:34.48 | foxlit | this would just... not... work... for tables with enough keys, where enough is really tiny. |
| 21:34.49 | Jamash | does lua have a recursion limit? I know Perl warns you at 100 but doesn't fall over and die |
| 21:35.13 | Jamash | also, I never said this was a *good* idea |
| 21:35.14 | Neffi | It has a recursion limit sort of, in the amount of C callouts you can make |
| 21:35.29 | Neffi | But that's not the issue |
| 21:35.34 | Jamash | indeed, I said it wasn't |
| 21:36.44 | foxlit | as someone who implements things that are not *good* ideas, I feel like there is a hierarchy of badness of sorts. |
| 21:37.21 | Jamash | I meant it more as a thought-provoking example of the kinds of hoops people make themselves jump through in the name of premature optimization than a practical technique |
| 21:37.27 | Neffi | are you all the way at the top, foxlit? ;) |
| 21:37.38 | Jamash | but is the top the most or least bad? |
| 21:37.46 | foxlit | "not efficient" is somewhere higher (or is it lower? hey, which way is up?) than "fails horribly for moderately-sized inputs" |
| 21:37.50 | Neffi | depends on which end foxlit is at, Jamash |
| 21:38.28 | Jamash | I'm not responsible for virtual machines with miserably small stack space |
| 21:38.46 | foxlit | Canonically, I think bad stuff is usually at the bottom. |
| 21:38.47 | foxlit | see: hell. |
| 21:38.51 | Jamash | if you can't get a million stack frames deep you're not doing real programming |
| 21:39.09 | Neffi | I think you can recompile Lua to handle that |
| 21:39.36 | Jamash | note: views expressed in this chat room may be composed of up to 99% irony |
| 21:39.38 | Neffi | foxlit: I thought the higher circles of hell were the worst. But maybe I have that backwards |
| 21:41.08 | Jamash | If creating intermediate garbage tables in Lua is bad then Lua ought to provide facilities to avoid them. If not, then Lua is bad. |
| 21:41.42 | Jamash | I tend toward the latter alternative, but your mileage may vary. |
| 21:42.09 | Neffi | I disagree that intermediate tables are as bad as the community has made them out to be |
| 21:42.17 | Semlar | i would just dump it all into a new table with the lowercase keys and use that table |
| 21:42.26 | Neffi | Semlar: references, Semlar |
| 21:42.50 | Jamash | Neffi: Recursion: See "Recursion" |
| 21:43.02 | Neffi | is stuck in an infinite loops |
| 21:43.09 | Semlar | you could use a meta table |
| 21:43.27 | Jamash | I never meta table I didn't like, chews cigar, wags eyebrows suggestively |
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| 21:43.49 | Semlar | i'm scared neffi, hold me |
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| 21:44.04 | Neffi | Semlar: on indexing lower key, you look for every possible combination of the same key with mixed cases? nice time complexity |
| 21:44.28 | Semlar | no |
| 21:44.41 | Neffi | redirect the old table to the new? why bother |
| 21:44.47 | Jamash | why indeed? |
| 21:45.00 | Semlar | first off it depends on what this implementation is for |
| 21:45.13 | Semlar | but you could either convert the keys as they're being entered into the table in the first place |
| 21:45.32 | Neffi | you can ask fox, but he'll probably show you code with tons of single-character identifiers and it'll take you an hour to figure that out ;) |
| 21:45.59 | Jamash | here's how to *really* save memory in Lua: setmetatable(_G, { __mode = "kv" }) |
| 21:46.32 | nevcairiel | souinds like a fun idea |
| 21:46.46 | Neffi | _G=nil will yield you better results |
| 21:46.49 | Jamash | Jamash Industries is not responsible for whatever happens if you try that on live |
| 21:46.50 | Neffi | wait |
| 21:46.56 | Neffi | nvm <_< |
| 21:47.33 | Neffi | I tainted all of _G the other day to see if things immediately break, or only after moments/combat. Turns out they immediately break |
| 21:47.37 | Jamash | shocking |
| 21:47.45 | Semlar | you only have to run over the table once to do a case-insensitive lookup of a key |
| 21:47.47 | Neffi | I had to kill the process because I couldn't reload UI, couldn't get escape menu to logout, etc |
| 21:47.57 | Jamash | lul |
| 21:52.06 | Jamash | Looping back around to the original topic, what do you do if the table has both "Aa" and "aA" as keys, anyway? |
| 21:53.34 | Semlar | i assume collisions aren't an issue or they wouldn't be trying to do this in the first place |
| 21:54.47 | Jamash | I never assume, because it makes an um out of ass and e. |
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| 21:57.15 | Semlar | i always assume because it's the fastest way to assess a situation |
| 21:59.16 | Neffi | assume() -- warning: this heuristic can be very inaccurate, but it's exceptionally fast |
| 22:09.39 | Mr_Rabies | i really don't know why the pvp part of the legendary questline is there |
| 22:12.34 | Shirik | the best open source tool for automatically detecting defects in software makes extensive use of assume() |
| 22:13.58 | Jamash | hmm, my addon page on wowi said it was updated for WoW 5.8.4 |
| 22:14.13 | Jamash | I ar gud at tipyng |
| 22:20.54 | foxlit | Jamash: first you cry in a corner somewhere, then you loudly complain, then you declare that to be undefined behavior and do whatever you want. |
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| 22:38.01 | Primer | What was that one addon site that was hosting addons illegally, with a client that gave no attribution? The site that caused so many people to make their addons be All Right Reserved? |
| 22:44.43 | Mr_Rabies | wowmatrix is/was one, the guy that makes OQ is/was doing it as well, at solidice dot whatever |
| 22:44.44 | Stanzilla | wowmatrix |
| 22:56.20 | Cairenn | both, among others |
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| 23:30.13 | znf | Is there any other name for "pork neck", when referring to meat? |
| 23:30.23 | znf | or simply pork neck? |
| 23:32.05 | znf | ah |
| 23:32.06 | znf | foreloin |
| 23:38.09 | znf | ...or is it "scruff" |
| 23:38.13 | Stanzilla | just order foreskin at the butcher |
| 23:41.22 | TC-Work | Or a mohel. |
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| 23:47.14 | foxlit | "You have exceeded the maximum file size of 500 kilobytes per paste. PRO users don't have this limit!" hm. |
| 23:47.38 | Semlar | tldr |
| 23:47.50 | foxlit | missing out, it's only 2.5 mb |
| 23:50.09 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:50.53 | znf | what's a go-hero? |
| 23:52.05 | Semlar | what is this, for highlighting purposes? |
| 23:53.00 | foxlit | something like that. |
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