| 00:15.25 | Semlar | what the hell is a drive unit |
| 00:16.35 | Thunder_Child | A unit that drives |
| 00:17.03 | Thunder_Child | In this case it should be the engine sans the combustion. |
| 00:17.18 | Semlar | so this is like the entire part that powers the car |
| 00:17.37 | Semlar | it would be like needing to replace the engine |
| 00:17.38 | Thunder_Child | This 'drives' the car. The power would be the battery. |
| 00:17.47 | Thunder_Child | More or less. |
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| 00:36.36 | Neffi | Semlar: the drive unit is an electric motor, essentially. Im not sure if there's anything else in the "drive unit" box because it has no transmission |
| 00:37.37 | Semlar | it looks like it's the motor and the drivetrain |
| 00:37.49 | Semlar | which you would not want failing on you |
| 00:38.23 | Neffi | i dont know if there is a drivetrain |
| 00:38.32 | Neffi | the electric motor is connected directly to the rear wheels, i believe |
| 00:39.44 | Neffi | ah, I thought you said drive shaft |
| 00:40.03 | Neffi | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:40.44 | Semlar | this says it costs $15,000 to replace |
| 00:40.51 | Semlar | which is the cost of a new car |
| 00:41.15 | Neffi | It's a pretty high performance electric motor. |
| 00:41.36 | Neffi | It's also going into a high-performance luxury sports car |
| 00:41.41 | Semlar | it's not performing very well if you have to replace it |
| 00:41.55 | Neffi | <_< |
| 00:41.59 | Semlar | :| |
| 00:50.01 | Thunder_Child | I'm not sure you can buy even 1 car for 15K. |
| 00:57.50 | Semlar | uh you could buy like 10 of my cars for 15k |
| 01:00.03 | Semlar | you could buy a pretty nice used car for that or a decent new one |
| 01:00.32 | Neffi | What decent new car is only $15k? |
| 01:00.48 | Neffi | But yeah, $15k could get you a very good used car |
| 01:00.49 | Semlar | you could definitely buy a hyundai for $15k |
| 01:00.58 | Neffi | Hyundais are not decent tho |
| 01:01.01 | Semlar | uh |
| 01:01.14 | Thunder_Child | Subjective |
| 01:01.22 | Semlar | a 2014 hyundai would not be a bad car |
| 01:01.38 | Thunder_Child | 1014 ACcent is 14,645 |
| 01:01.40 | Thunder_Child | 2014* |
| 01:01.46 | Semlar | if i were shopping for a car i wouldn't be buying a brand new one though |
| 01:01.50 | Thunder_Child | with tax it's over 15K |
| 01:01.52 | Thunder_Child | Next. |
| 01:02.14 | Neffi | buys a brand new Semlar |
| 01:02.24 | Thunder_Child | I'm buying new. |
| 01:02.36 | Semlar | it's your money |
| 01:02.38 | Neffi | hey Semlar, your FlipCameraYaw delay thing is bugged |
| 01:02.45 | Semlar | you're bugged |
| 01:02.48 | Neffi | It only performs the flip-back every other time |
| 01:02.53 | Neffi | no need for the delayed flag |
| 01:03.24 | Semlar | huh? |
| 01:03.31 | Neffi | Semlar: https://gist.github.com/2863835ba561650fe26f |
| 01:03.47 | Neffi | notice yours checked the Delayed flag, which is not necessary |
| 01:04.16 | Semlar | ..no |
| 01:04.21 | Semlar | mine delays it by a frame |
| 01:04.23 | Semlar | yours does not |
| 01:05.28 | Semlar | it's probably not something you need to do if you aren't scaling the nameplates anyway |
| 01:05.31 | Neffi | The registered OnUpdate will run immediately after OnAttributeChanged during the same frame cycle? |
| 01:06.14 | Neffi | I believe I do need it. With my old method, spreading didnt bounce back to the correct bounds until I nudged the camera |
| 01:08.54 | Semlar | if you don't put a delay in there the game won't redraw the nameplates |
| 01:09.09 | Neffi | o.o |
| 01:09.15 | Semlar | if your method works, then so be it |
| 01:09.20 | Neffi | I didnt test it |
| 01:09.24 | Neffi | I reverted |
| 01:09.39 | Neffi | https://github.com/nefftd/nfNameplates <- here dey are |
| 01:09.40 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure i didn't write it that way for the hell of it |
| 01:10.02 | Neffi | I figured maybe you was drunk and thought you needed a flag to prevent OnUpdate from sticking |
| 01:10.08 | Neffi | I do weird stuff like that when I'm drunk |
| 01:10.15 | Semlar | i don't get drunk |
| 01:10.23 | Semlar | i'm just always like this |
| 01:10.39 | Semlar | it's probably the lack of sleep |
| 01:10.49 | Neffi | O.O |
| 01:12.36 | Semlar | the camera is nudged pretty imperceptibly so it's almost not necessary to have both, but i wanted it to cancel out just in case |
| 01:13.30 | Semlar | i couldn't find another way to force the nameplates to get redrawn without toggling them |
| 01:14.52 | Semlar | i only went down this path after deciding rescaling the WorldFrame itself could possibly have some undesirable consequences |
| 01:16.15 | Neffi | chuckles |
| 01:16.39 | Semlar | it worked great for the nameplates, not great for anything trying to anchor to the world frame |
| 01:22.27 | Neffi | Is there any unit in the game that has 1+ billion health? |
| 01:22.36 | Semlar | possibly garrosh |
| 01:22.56 | Semlar | or rayden, however you spell it |
| 01:23.14 | Neffi | So I guess 100+ million isn't far fetched either |
| 01:23.42 | Semlar | 25H garrosh has 676 million according to wowhead |
| 01:23.56 | Semlar | i don't know what phase that is, but total he has more than a billion health |
| 01:24.14 | Semlar | http://www.wowhead.com/npc=69473/ra-den |
| 01:24.21 | Semlar | raden has more than a billion |
| 01:24.30 | Neffi | Ah, ok. Gonna do your integrated healthbar, but I want to show current value, not percentage. So I gotta make a virtualized fontstring object that renders rasterized TGA glyphs |
| 01:25.24 | Semlar | you could make a k / m / b in the texture file |
| 01:25.38 | Semlar | if you want to make it fill up too |
| 01:26.12 | Semlar | so you can display their health and percentage at the same time |
| 01:26.15 | Neffi | yeah, just wanted to know if I needed B too. Hundred of millions means I should also floor values over 99 million so it's not too long (557.1M is just unnecessary) |
| 01:26.50 | Semlar | eh, i don't know if i'd put the decimal in for any of them |
| 01:27.03 | Neffi | That's the idea. The text will show current health, the fill level of their color will show percentage |
| 01:27.19 | Neffi | I have it for smaller values of a given order of magnitude |
| 01:27.29 | Neffi | Eg, 2.1K, but not 12.1k (12k) |
| 01:28.31 | Neffi | 1.5M is substantially different than 1M so I find it necessary for these ranges |
| 01:28.53 | Semlar | i suppose |
| 01:30.15 | Semlar | nothing should have that kind of health in WoD |
| 01:30.21 | Neffi | I wonder if I can find an elegant formula to display the amount of significant digits that matter, instead of the if-else chain I have, which I now have to add 2 additional clauses to |
| 01:31.01 | Neffi | yeah, but I bet the values will be up to MoP levels in the next xpac |
| 01:31.19 | Semlar | i think that would defeat the purpose of the stat squish |
| 01:31.36 | Semlar | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=293822&postcount=4 |
| 01:31.51 | Neffi | Well how much health does a level 100 have in reasonable gear? Isn't it already approaching 100k? |
| 01:32.13 | Semlar | yeah, and when the expansion is released why wouldn't they just squish the last one |
| 01:32.48 | Neffi | Because I imagine the process of squishing involves smoothing out scaling and kinks |
| 01:39.06 | Gethe | Neffi: my premade pvp frst dk has 260k health at 660ilvl |
| 01:39.29 | Neffi | so we're already approaching MoP levels then |
| 01:39.35 | Neffi | hooray for the squish! (lol) |
| 01:40.56 | Gethe | though they have said in many places that health is not the way to judge the squish |
| 01:41.08 | Gethe | health was squished alot less |
| 01:43.19 | Kesava | rogue's 660 premade weapons have 666 top damage vs what, 12k on live? |
| 01:43.24 | Kesava | that's significant |
| 01:43.52 | Kesava | still has 353k hp |
| 01:44.01 | Kesava | .. not really sure how that weapon damage balances out but hey |
| 01:44.50 | Semlar | how are you going to kill someone in pvp if the health doesn't scale down but the damage does |
| 01:45.42 | Kesava | wod's pvp is "last longer, heal less" |
| 01:46.11 | Kesava | (i think) |
| 01:46.42 | Semlar | you mean warlocks can't just one shot people with chaos bolts? |
| 01:46.55 | Kesava | well probably |
| 01:47.00 | Semlar | what is the world coming to |
| 01:47.22 | Neffi | Semlar: yeah, they're scaling up health relatively because currently the whole survivability situation is.... what's a nice word for wtf were the developers even doing |
| 02:00.14 | tz | "questionable" |
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| 02:30.18 | Neffi | hey semlar, upvote my question so it gets answered http://stackoverflow.com/questions/25336359 |
| 02:30.34 | Semlar | no neffi |
| 02:30.39 | Neffi | :( |
| 02:31.00 | Semlar | i thought i linked a post showing how you could format this |
| 02:31.26 | Neffi | oh, you did? |
| 02:31.54 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:32.16 | Semlar | or if you want me to rewrite it for what you're doing it wouldn't be very difficult |
| 02:33.08 | Neffi | that doesn't appear to handle showing a decimal on the lower end of a given factor of 1000 |
| 02:33.37 | Neffi | although I could add a clause for that |
| 02:43.15 | Semlar | http://pastebin.com/sEwhjhEJ here's a terrible example that probably does that |
| 02:45.17 | Semlar | o no |
| 02:45.18 | Semlar | neffi look out! |
| 02:45.19 | Neffi | ohno |
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| 02:45.30 | Semlar | did you see my paste |
| 02:47.10 | Neffi | yeah but I'm rewriting it to use log instead of len. i didnt remember how to use log <_< |
| 02:50.01 | Semlar | math.log(1000) / math.log(10) |
| 02:50.28 | Neffi | Lua has log10 ;) |
| 02:51.10 | Semlar | well ok |
| 02:54.56 | Semlar | i'm not sure how much of a difference using log will make |
| 02:55.23 | foxlit | is math! is smart! very advanced! |
| 02:55.46 | Semlar | well, it's math.log10 versus string.len(number) - 1 |
| 02:55.49 | foxlit | ⦠probably a net performance loss. |
| 02:57.02 | foxlit | (compared to normal code, not your convert-numbers-to-strings insanity.) |
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| 02:57.42 | Neffi | probably a net performance loss, but less ugly |
| 02:57.49 | Semlar | how dare you |
| 02:58.10 | Semlar | you'll still have to divide by 3 and floor it |
| 02:58.33 | Neffi | yes, I see that |
| 02:59.42 | Semlar | if you only care about efficiency then a bunch of if statements is undoubtedly faster |
| 03:00.34 | Semlar | you'll just be comparing numbers instead of calling functions |
| 03:02.35 | Neffi | yeah. final solution https://gist.github.com/42f731409d32fd85ed90 |
| 03:03.08 | Semlar | you can do floor without a function but i don't know if it's worth it |
| 03:03.20 | Semlar | and use an if statement instead of min |
| 03:03.32 | Semlar | that's mostly just to make sure it doesn't exceed the table |
| 03:03.46 | Neffi | aye |
| 03:04.35 | Semlar | i think x - x % 1 is the same as floor |
| 03:05.51 | Semlar | ..if you ever need that for something |
| 03:09.00 | Semlar | could you use the calendar as a persistent database to store addon information for a guild |
| 03:09.27 | foxlit | I can sell you an unlimited amount of write-only memory. |
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| 03:11.13 | foxlit | which is to say you probably can, but the calendar breaks if you look at it funny. |
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| 03:13.24 | Semlar | i'm just thinking about the amount of addon messages you'd have to send to sync up a bunch of guild information between members running the addon |
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| 03:24.10 | Neffi | smooches Semlar |
| 03:24.17 | Semlar | dies |
| 03:25.10 | Semlar | :( it won't let me create an event in the past on the beta |
| 03:25.50 | Semlar | well, it won't let me do it on live either, i could have sworn it let me click on these boxes earlier |
| 03:25.58 | Neffi | "integer overflow attempting to store -1.#IND" woops |
| 03:26.14 | Semlar | neffi you can't log 0 |
| 03:27.51 | Neffi | in Lua you can |
| 03:28.06 | Semlar | well, you can, you'll just get infinity |
| 03:28.17 | Neffi | well, it becomes indeterminate, but it works. the error is when I try to pass the resulting value to :format() |
| 03:28.44 | Semlar | wouldn't be a problem if you used strlen is all i'm sayin |
| 03:28.47 | Neffi | I wrote a test but forgot about 0 |
| 03:28.57 | kd3 | any non-mana users know if vael casts burning adrenaline on them while soloing at the 15 sec mark? |
| 03:29.17 | Semlar | vael who |
| 03:29.36 | kd3 | vaelastrasz in BWL http://wowpedia.org/Vaelastrasz#Solo_strategy |
| 03:30.56 | Semlar | well it can definitely target non-mana users |
| 03:30.59 | Neffi | I wanna say it doesn't, but the last time I soloed BWL on my rogue was... a while ago |
| 03:31.19 | Neffi | Actually I might be wrong. I *might* have given up because of that. I can't remember. Disregard I guess |
| 03:31.34 | kd3 | it has always targeted the MT on the third cast, but that's 45 sec in. just trying to figure out if it will hit a rogue/cat/dk/whatever at the 15 sec mark |
| 03:33.16 | Semlar | i don't think he would last 15 seconds against me |
| 03:34.26 | Semlar | If you're soloing him and you're not a mana-user, he won't cast on you until the 45 second mark. according to a post on wowhead |
| 03:34.53 | kd3 | well, that'll work, then |
| 03:35.01 | Semlar | "If you're not a mana-using level 90, you'll never notice Burning Adrenaline. I never saw it cast when I was soloing on my hunter, not even on my pet." |
| 03:35.34 | Semlar | "On a resto druid, I just didn't use mana. Stayed kitty the whole time, lost some DPS from no moonfire ticks and no clearcasting buffs, but never got a BA on me." |
| 03:36.28 | Semlar | anecdotal evidence is good enough for me |
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| 04:01.12 | Semlar | what the what |
| 04:01.27 | Semlar | neffi, bosses are programmed to hit 3 times harder on pets with their melee attacks |
| 04:02.45 | kd3 | they _really_ don't want pet tanks when content is current |
| 04:02.58 | Semlar | they can't even taunt the damn things |
| 04:03.26 | Semlar | i can't imagine trying to keep a hunter pet alive tanking an actual boss, but maybe warlocks have it better |
| 04:04.00 | Neffi | don't you just miss "hey huntard, offtank this guy with your pet and kite this other guy. if you can manage it. retard. pick better class next time" |
| 04:04.29 | Semlar | psh i'll kite the entire instance, i'm superhunter |
| 04:04.47 | Semlar | also, heroic immerseus can't one shot my pet |
| 04:05.08 | Semlar | he does hit my pet on occasion when the tanks aren't standing close enough and it's for like 60-70% of his health |
| 04:05.34 | Neffi | I remember "lol hunters suck, why even bring them" "hey i made this video called hunter vs world" "omg hunters are amazing. i mean, 99% of them are retarded, but this one is fucking beast" |
| 04:06.08 | Semlar | if i top the meters my class is overpowered |
| 04:07.19 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:08.25 | Semlar | this does explain why my pet gets shredded in old raids |
| 04:11.21 | Neffi | still probably way more capable at old raids than my rogue |
| 04:13.31 | Semlar | maybe, i remember watching a rogue face tank a zandalari warbringer way back when my hunter had to kite those things all over the planet |
| 04:13.55 | Semlar | i literally couldn't have gotten within 20 yards of it without it killing me |
| 04:14.49 | Neffi | rogue defense isn't that stellar nowadays |
| 04:14.59 | Neffi | we're like wet paper bags. recup is garbage |
| 04:15.15 | Semlar | i doubt much has changed since then |
| 04:15.24 | Neffi | recup used to be pretty damned strong |
| 04:15.25 | Semlar | they're rare pandarian mobs |
| 04:15.39 | Neffi | iirc it was -6% damage taken, 5% heal per 2 sec or some shit like that |
| 04:16.20 | nevcairiel | I can't solo warbringers with my moonkin we all, it just squishes me |
| 04:16.32 | Semlar | i could crush a warbringer now |
| 04:16.44 | Semlar | but this was way back maybe even before ToT |
| 04:16.52 | nevcairiel | Seen ferals just face tank them tho without getting much of a scratch |
| 04:17.25 | nevcairiel | But then I'm like in 530 gear or so |
| 04:17.40 | Semlar | the stupid thing would fear me if i got within range of it |
| 04:17.47 | nevcairiel | But somehow I doubt survivability increases this much |
| 04:17.52 | Semlar | and then just walk up and melee me, while feared, until i died |
| 04:18.04 | Neffi | Ferals have pretty great survivability though |
| 04:18.18 | Neffi | Not only the CDs, but every time you pop a finisher you can pop a free heal without outshifting |
| 04:20.01 | Semlar | aside from deterrence, which is pretty good at avoiding some boss attacks, my hunter is super squishy |
| 04:20.11 | nevcairiel | I was hoping to do more feral in wod, with automatic gear spec conversion etc |
| 04:20.27 | Semlar | like, i can't survive long enough to FD on a boss fight that we're wiping on |
| 04:20.29 | Neffi | Feral is fun and boring at the same time |
| 04:20.42 | Semlar | when everyone else is just standing around waiting to die |
| 04:21.06 | Neffi | It's loads of fun if you like to push your limits. It's boring doing simple stuff. Waiting on energy to pool. Waiting on Wild Charge to stop with the theatrics and just get you to the enemy. It feels slow as hell |
| 04:21.26 | nevcairiel | When your main spec is resto, it just always was so much easier to collect moonkin gear |
| 04:21.41 | nevcairiel | Never played feral much because of that |
| 04:21.41 | Semlar | it sounds like that might be changing in WoD |
| 04:21.55 | Neffi | Semlar: what, the slowness? |
| 04:22.02 | Semlar | you may not be able to just use the same gear on a hybrid between two similar specs |
| 04:22.05 | nevcairiel | Looking forward to that actually |
| 04:22.23 | nevcairiel | Huh why not |
| 04:22.24 | Semlar | at least from what i hear |
| 04:23.10 | nevcairiel | It should even improve with gear changing int to agi automatically, so I can even play feral on the same gear |
| 04:24.07 | nevcairiel | Spirit is gone from main gear, which should make resto gear even more reusable for moonkin |
| 04:24.38 | nevcairiel | Plus the stat switch even enables feral hybrid use |
| 04:24.50 | nevcairiel | So.. What do you hear? |
| 04:25.27 | Semlar | the gear i've seen doesn't switch between stats |
| 04:25.33 | Semlar | it just disables them |
| 04:25.43 | Semlar | but maybe it depends on the gear |
| 04:26.30 | nevcairiel | It doesn't switch unlimited |
| 04:26.44 | nevcairiel | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:27.13 | nevcairiel | On leather its usually int/agi dot druids and monks |
| 04:27.39 | nevcairiel | s/dot/for/ |
| 04:28.26 | nevcairiel | Maybe only max lvl gear does it, not sure on that |
| 04:30.53 | kd3 | anything from 6.0 on will have int/agi or str/int on leather/mail and plate, respectively |
| 04:34.28 | Semlar | neffi what's the point of playing a class that isn't a hybrid |
| 04:37.19 | Neffi | i dunno. you play one, don't you? |
| 04:37.31 | Semlar | yeah, but why |
| 04:37.45 | Neffi | so people can never ask you to heal when you dont want to |
| 04:38.25 | Semlar | i still think hunters should get a healing spec where you shoot people full of healing arrows |
| 04:38.43 | nevcairiel | I don't want to be healed by that |
| 04:38.57 | Semlar | it's not the heal you want, it's the heal you need |
| 04:39.17 | Neffi | you are not batman, Semlar |
| 04:39.24 | Semlar | you don't know that |
| 04:39.51 | Semlar | maybe i'm just pretending to not be able to afford a car that doesn't leak |
| 04:40.45 | Neffi | alright, semlar, I believe in you |
| 04:41.00 | Semlar | i could tame a bat |
| 04:53.33 | plaw | Wobin: On the subject of names... when I was working in France, the Sydney office sent over a staffer to train the locals. "Monsieur Connard" |
| 04:54.01 | plaw | Wobin: oh I should NSFW warn you when you reach for the translator... |
| 04:54.21 | Wobin | good thing it's the weekend! |
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| 06:34.27 | Shirik | wtf is a "double double" |
| 06:34.45 | Shirik | "double cream, double sugar" |
| 06:34.51 | Shirik | confused |
| 06:35.17 | foxlit | http://youtu.be/e_Mq55ctqrk |
| 06:35.38 | Semlar | doubles shirik |
| 06:36.00 | Semlar | urban dictionary says it's canadian |
| 06:36.19 | foxlit | (there are captions and things) |
| 06:36.21 | Cairenn | It is |
| 06:36.37 | Cairenn | Double Double = 2 milk/cream & 2 sugar |
| 06:37.01 | Semlar | and tim horton is the mayor of canada, i presume |
| 06:37.11 | Cairenn | ... |
| 06:37.14 | Semlar | .. |
| 06:37.51 | Cairenn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Horton |
| 06:39.10 | A-KO | Tim Horton's is delicious. Whenever I head up to Canuckistan I stop there for a blueberry muffin... |
| 06:39.13 | A-KO | maybe multiple times :P |
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| 07:15.59 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:18.01 | nevcairiel | 1990 called. They want their fast connection back |
| 07:18.50 | nevcairiel | Lucky you still got a D there |
| 07:19.02 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure my normal 10mbps is a D |
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| 07:20.00 | Semlar | welp, time to unplug everything and hope that fixes it |
| 07:20.09 | Semlar | unclog the tubes |
| 07:22.54 | Neffi | the internet is not a big truck |
| 07:23.00 | Neffi | so stop clogging it up |
| 07:24.09 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:24.46 | Kodiack | Oh god, that's "fixed"? D: |
| 07:24.53 | Kodiack | I'm so sorry |
| 07:24.56 | Semlar | :( |
| 07:25.17 | Semlar | can you believe this costs $60 a month |
| 07:25.41 | nevcairiel | Well its the US |
| 07:25.43 | nevcairiel | So yeah |
| 07:25.43 | Kodiack | Yikes. I hope you're out in the middle of nowhere with that price/performance ratio |
| 07:25.50 | Semlar | i'm in downtown orlando |
| 07:25.57 | Kodiack | http://www.speedtest.net/result/3692754020.png |
| 07:26.02 | Kodiack | That's for just under $100 USD per month |
| 07:26.13 | nevcairiel | Does the 60 at least include phone and cable |
| 07:26.16 | Semlar | no |
| 07:26.18 | Semlar | it's literally just cable |
| 07:26.36 | Kodiack | That's a cable connection? I'd have thought DSL at those speeds |
| 07:27.02 | Kodiack | They must still be running DOCSIS 1.0 or something. Yikes. That's horrible. |
| 07:27.24 | nevcairiel | I could get 16 DSL for like 20 euro, including phone |
| 07:28.22 | Kodiack | ~16 Mbps ADSL is almost 60 Euro here |
| 07:28.22 | purl | okay, Kodiack |
| 07:28.27 | Kodiack | There's a reason I went with 130 Mbps :D |
| 07:28.33 | nevcairiel | Unless you live way out in nowhere |
| 07:29.30 | Semlar | you know where disney world is? |
| 07:29.36 | Kodiack | Yep |
| 07:29.47 | Semlar | i live in that general area |
| 07:30.04 | Semlar | except not in the middle of nowhere, which is where disney is |
| 07:30.19 | nevcairiel | I have 50/10 dsl for 50 now, could get 100mbps cable for the same price, but I prefer dsl |
| 07:30.34 | Kodiack | "Prefer" DSL? |
| 07:30.40 | nevcairiel | At least its close to blizzcon, right? |
| 07:30.50 | Semlar | not that disney |
| 07:30.50 | Kodiack | That would be Disney Land :P |
| 07:30.56 | nevcairiel | Hm |
| 07:30.58 | nevcairiel | Oh well |
| 07:30.59 | nevcairiel | You lose |
| 07:31.49 | Neffi | he lives in the general area of where Dexter takes place |
| 07:31.53 | Neffi | in other words, he's Dexter |
| 07:31.58 | Semlar | oh come on, miami is more south |
| 07:32.00 | Neffi | we should've known all along |
| 07:32.14 | Neffi | I dunno Florida :( |
| 07:32.18 | nevcairiel | And yes, prefer DSL. Cable can have funny issues like losing bandwidth at peak times. Plus its only 100/5, while DSL is 50/10. Like Me some upload |
| 07:32.19 | Neffi | I'm a yankee |
| 07:32.20 | Semlar | i live in the middle of florida |
| 07:32.37 | Semlar | miami is like on the south east tip |
| 07:32.50 | Neffi | The southmost I've ever been is DC |
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| 07:35.35 | Semlar | neffi bring me some gigabits |
| 07:37.59 | Neffi | but i only have so many and they dont really hold up to long travel |
| 07:39.09 | Semlar | all i'm hearing are excuses |
| 07:39.24 | Neffi | you're excused |
| 07:39.32 | Neffi | don't let it happen again |
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| 07:56.14 | VIad | :D http://www.speedtest.net/result/3692789512.png |
| 07:58.32 | karl_w_w | http://whatsinthedotapatch.com/ that page source |
| 07:58.53 | VIad | paying 70$ for that speed |
| 07:59.08 | VIad | karl_w_w: isnt that like each patch? xD |
| 07:59.38 | karl_w_w | yep |
| 07:59.51 | karl_w_w | everybody is losing their minds in anticipation |
| 08:00.06 | VIad | sadly each content patch adds more bugs :( |
| 08:00.17 | karl_w_w | for techies and balance changes and other stuff and HATS! |
| 08:02.11 | VIad | I love hats |
| 08:03.37 | VIad | karl_w_w: I sense it's a joke - the page always says bug fixes :p |
| 08:03.50 | karl_w_w | no it doesn't |
| 08:03.58 | karl_w_w | it said hats after the last patch |
| 08:06.23 | VIad | karl_w_w: I hope they add a nice workshow for all the custom content people make with the tools they released. so that you can look for and create lobbies with custom addons from the workshop, gamemodes, e.g. and play with friends or pub for fun - totally unranked :) |
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| 08:07.07 | karl_w_w | you already can |
| 08:07.34 | VIad | not without a lot of manual work on all parties or 3rd party software |
| 08:07.39 | karl_w_w | http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/browse/?appid=570§ion=readytouseitems |
| 08:07.49 | VIad | hmm |
| 08:08.10 | VIad | testing |
| 08:09.19 | karl_w_w | u need to opt in to the dlc as well |
| 08:09.21 | VIad | why do people say "lobby pass X" in the addons? |
| 08:09.27 | karl_w_w | and have a 64 bit system |
| 08:09.43 | karl_w_w | cos thats how u find lobbies atm' |
| 08:10.35 | VIad | I see |
| 08:10.42 | VIad | the game booted up the tool executable :D |
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| 08:15.31 | VIad | karl_w_w: awesome |
| 08:15.36 | VIad | just got to find a way to copy my settings |
| 08:15.40 | VIad | from retail to this new client |
| 08:15.43 | VIad | I need all my settings ;D |
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| 11:31.14 | Torhal | Cairenn: Suddenly - five more cats. |
| 11:31.33 | Simca | not nearly enough |
| 11:31.55 | Cairenn | Oh? |
| 11:32.09 | Torhal | There was an emaciated female outside my house when I got home from work. |
| 11:32.27 | Cairenn | That just had kittens? |
| 11:32.45 | Torhal | Brought her in, 12 hours later noticed her nipples were swelling up. So I walked outside to go look around. I was three steps out when I thought "What if those aren't mice in my garage..." |
| 11:32.47 | Torhal | It wasn't. |
| 11:32.56 | Cairenn | got to them in time? |
| 11:32.58 | Torhal | Yep. They MIGHT be a week old. |
| 11:33.18 | Torhal | I first heard 'em Sunday, thought "Great. All I need is mice." |
| 11:33.19 | Cairenn | She must have been going nuts trying to get back out to them |
| 11:33.52 | Torhal | No, she ate a bunch of food and passed out for a few hours. I think she was trying to gain her strength...I could probably put my hand around her waist. |
| 11:33.59 | Cairenn | =/ |
| 11:34.05 | Cairenn | Well, very lucky cats |
| 11:34.19 | Torhal | So I went out to the garage, flipped the light on, and saw 'em immediately in a box. I brought it in and they're in the guest room now. |
| 11:34.25 | Cairenn | You're a good man, Charlie Brown |
| 11:34.28 | Torhal | lol |
| 11:34.39 | Torhal | So we suddenly went from two to seven cats. |
| 11:35.16 | Cairenn | Gonna foster 'em until they're old enough to try to get forever homes for them? |
| 11:35.42 | Torhal | Shortly after I found the kittens, Kelly went out to the garage to find her something to use for litter until she goes to the store later...there was a female Siamese just walking around, rubbing on stuff in the garage. |
| 11:35.54 | Torhal | It's like Invasion of the Felines or something. |
| 11:35.59 | Cairenn | heh |
| 11:36.00 | Fisker- | Torhal maternity ward |
| 11:36.09 | Torhal | Yeah, or keep some. |
| 11:36.24 | Fisker- | Torhal kidnapping ring? |
| 11:36.26 | Fisker- | :( |
| 11:36.42 | Cairenn | Torhal: take a note from https://new.livestream.com/FosterKittenCam |
| 11:36.44 | Torhal | I let you go, Fisker-. |
| 11:37.06 | Fisker- | Yeah but you did that "Let it go"-song |
| 11:37.39 | Cairenn | This guy fosters litters until they're old enough to be adopted - runs a live cam during the whole thing, by the time they're old enough, he's usually got a line up of folks wanting them |
| 11:38.25 | Torhal | Huh, nice. |
| 11:41.48 | Cairenn | If you are going to try to get homes for them, make sure to socialize them |
| 11:42.03 | Torhal | Get them used to people? |
| 11:42.07 | Cairenn | Yeah |
| 11:42.10 | Torhal | Hell, I'm not used t opeople. |
| 11:42.12 | Torhal | :D |
| 11:42.22 | Cairenn | yeah well |
| 11:42.47 | Torhal | They won't go feral with us. |
| 11:43.09 | Cairenn | and you could probably contact the guy for hints - "Foster Dad John" |
| 11:44.06 | Cairenn | been a long time since I've helped with itty bitty kittens or puppies, out of practice |
| 11:44.18 | Cairenn | so not great on hints |
| 11:44.23 | Torhal | I'll check it out tomorrow. I wanted to go to bed 12 hours ago, but I was keeping her company, calming her down, and she would become VERY vocal when around either of the other two cats...now I know why. Very much in mommy mode. |
| 11:44.35 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 11:45.39 | Torhal | I brought the box in, handed it to Kelly, and followed her upstairs with the mom. As soon as I sat her down next to the box she just calmly climbed in and started coralling 'em. |
| 11:45.49 | Cairenn | :) |
| 11:45.52 | Cairenn | go sleep |
| 11:46.16 | Torhal | Keeping her locked in because I don't trust my male with the kittens - males can go either way and I'd prefer not to find out which. |
| 11:46.23 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 11:46.35 | Torhal | Yeah, sleeptime. |
| 11:46.42 | Fisker- | night Torhal |
| 11:46.48 | Torhal | G'night. |
| 11:47.05 | Cairenn | food, water, litter box, kittens, safe from other cats, they'll be fine while you sleep |
| 11:48.12 | Fisker- | good night Cairenn |
| 11:48.21 | Cairenn | night Fisker- |
| 11:48.27 | karl_w_w | so wait, how does a box of kittens get into your garage without you knowing |
| 11:48.27 | Fisker- | no |
| 11:48.29 | Fisker- | go to bed |
| 11:48.30 | Fisker- | :D |
| 11:48.34 | Cairenn | lol |
| 11:48.45 | karl_w_w | night night Fisker- |
| 11:48.48 | Cairenn | my sleep pattern is so completely fucked up it's beyond funny |
| 11:48.53 | Fisker- | :| |
| 12:06.58 | Simca | same |
| 12:20.59 | Fisker- | lol jleclanche zoo just got milled, dream come true :P |
| 12:54.02 | jleclanche | Fisker-: where? |
| 12:54.32 | Fisker- | On massan's stream |
| 12:54.56 | Fisker- | Warlock played a cult master and basically traded almost everything into sylvanas |
| 12:55.22 | Fisker- | Then he whirlwinded the resulting death rattles and got him to burn 3 cards or so I think |
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| 13:15.09 | jleclanche | Fisker-: 57hp glhf |
| 13:15.17 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 13:15.32 | Fisker- | no problem though |
| 13:15.37 | Fisker- | says the cruel taskmaster |
| 13:17.24 | jleclanche | BAM |
| 13:17.30 | jleclanche | 36 damage shield slam |
| 13:18.05 | Fisker- | :P |
| 13:28.45 | Fisker- | Was no problem though |
| 13:44.50 | jleclanche | is there an addon that displays whether a digsite is mogu, panda or mantid? |
| 13:45.14 | nevcairiel | doesnt the map show that |
| 13:45.24 | nevcairiel | on hover or so |
| 13:46.40 | nevcairiel | i remember knowing that at least, and being annoyed having to dig up all the wrong types, but i dont remember anymore how it was shown to me <.< |
| 13:52.23 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: it does not :/ |
| 13:52.37 | nevcairiel | well i somehow knew! |
| 13:53.41 | nevcairiel | maybe i did have an addon that did it |
| 13:54.39 | nevcairiel | the only arch addon i ever used was Archy |
| 13:54.43 | nevcairiel | maybe it does that |
| 13:54.45 | nevcairiel | shrugs |
| 13:55.28 | Fisker- | hail hydra nevcairiel |
| 13:55.37 | nevcairiel | hail hydra! |
| 13:55.38 | nevcairiel | but why |
| 13:56.19 | Fisker- | why not? |
| 13:58.32 | nevcairiel | have to stay hidden, or captain rogers will hunt us |
| 14:00.00 | karl_w_w | nothing worse than playing perfectly and losing to somebody who makes a bunch of mistakes |
| 14:02.10 | foxlit | time to switch to chess, karl_w_w. |
| 14:02.17 | Fisker- | Hey foxlit |
| 14:02.45 | foxlit | Hey Fisker. |
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| 14:03.20 | Fisker- | Hey. |
| 14:04.56 | karl_w_w | it's probably impossible to play chess perfectly foxlit |
| 14:05.11 | Ressy | oh this is fun. Infinite Garrison resources. |
| 14:05.24 | foxlit | especially with that attitude. |
| 14:05.31 | Ressy | buy 10 True Iron Ore for 40 garrison resources via trading post, and hand'em in for 100 resources. Repeat. |
| 14:06.04 | foxlit | Ressy: thatâs âinfinite goldâ, who cares about garrison resources :) |
| 14:06.25 | Ressy | well, when I'm using garrison resources to buy stuff to level my cooking. |
| 14:06.46 | Ressy | I've levelled it almost completely in about 10 minutes |
| 14:08.00 | Fisker- | There was the lumber stuff |
| 14:08.20 | nevcairiel | They'll probably find such things before live ;) |
| 14:08.47 | nevcairiel | On beta the NPC just hands you 5000 resources for free anyway |
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| 14:38.02 | jleclanche | Maldivia: https://pay.reddit.com/r/ITcrowd/comments/2dn0z9/what_i_think_of_peter_capaldis_doctor_who_costume/ |
| 14:40.30 | Maldivia | heh |
| 15:13.17 | jleclanche | so what exactly is supposed to happen to heirlooms in wod? i heard they had special storage too |
| 15:19.59 | VIad | jleclanche: they HAD but they said it's not coming with 6.X |
| 15:20.29 | VIad | so I hope they don't scrap it of course, but it's not coming out at the same time the toybox comes out |
| 15:20.31 | jleclanche | l |
| 15:20.32 | jleclanche | ok |
| 15:20.52 | Simca | Ressy - those handins are shipments, which are limited to 3 per day |
| 15:23.58 | Ressy | well, I'm able to do unlimited Trading Post work orders |
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| 15:29.27 | Ressy | lol.. somehow, server glitch. |
| 15:29.45 | Ressy | I have 5 trading post deliveries waiting. |
| 16:19.23 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/4owsLCS.jpg hahaha |
| 16:19.53 | nevcairiel | One terrible therapist that was |
| 16:23.31 | Maldivia | plot twist, the therapist was male? |
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| 16:57.27 | karl_w_w | plot twist, the therapist was a straight male |
| 16:58.42 | Neffi | plot twist, the therapist was Mick Jagger |
| 16:59.02 | Alram | the rapist Mick Jagger |
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| 17:09.22 | zenzelezz | heh. "We're going read-only for a 'succeed-over' test. If that leaves you directionless, I suggest 'Veronica Mars' Season 1 on amazon prime" (from StackExchange's twitter account) |
| 17:13.17 | karl_w_w | veronica mars is always a good suggestion |
| 17:14.20 | karl_w_w | unless you're trying to list people you should underestimate! |
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| 17:24.18 | karl_w_w | oh boy, amy acker, now there's a name i love seeing scroll past in the guest stars of a tv show |
| 17:28.54 | Wobin | karl_w_w: ty for the suggestion to go to the KMH concert. It was awesome |
| 17:39.04 | karl_w_w | of course it was! |
| 17:39.27 | karl_w_w | I also had a fall-back, if it was shit I didn't actually suggest it :P |
| 17:39.43 | AcidWeb | http://store.steampowered.com/sub/19282/ |
| 17:40.41 | foxlit | ^ single player game with a log-in screen. |
| 17:49.13 | Wobin | karl_w_w: The lighting coordinator was pretty on the ball too |
| 17:49.28 | Wobin | They had the strobing set to Keir's guitar riffs |
| 17:49.38 | Fisker | so mad foxlit |
| 17:54.32 | karl_w_w | did they do humiliation wobin? |
| 17:54.39 | karl_w_w | with the repeating sounds |
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| 19:44.27 | Semlar | do the rares in WoD have health that scales based on how many players are attacking it |
| 19:44.59 | Maldivia | yes... it's annoying as hell |
| 19:45.34 | Maldivia | really good way to grief people... ohh, you're soloing that thing, let me shoot at it once, and now it has double hp! |
| 19:46.26 | Semlar | >_> |
| 19:48.09 | Semlar | do you know if it just adds the mob's base health for each additional person |
| 19:48.32 | Maldivia | well, I think they've changed it abit in recent patches though |
| 19:49.00 | Maldivia | because previously they gained a lot hp -- but haven't really been playing much, haven't had the time |
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| 20:47.03 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 20:51.38 | fewyn | was a joke in another channel =p |
| 20:51.48 | Fisker | You should go to an eye doctor Cairenn |
| 20:51.53 | Fisker | There's something in your left eye |
| 20:51.57 | Cairenn | fewyn: lol |
| 20:52.07 | Cairenn | Fisker: heh |
| 20:52.18 | Fisker | Oh, so that's how it is |
| 20:52.27 | Cairenn | fewyn: okay, was just kinda odd |
| 20:52.33 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 20:52.45 | Semlar | do rares stop appearing as rare after you kill them in WoD |
| 20:52.53 | fewyn | no |
| 20:53.06 | fewyn | why would they? |
| 20:53.06 | Semlar | this guy no longer has his rare frame or a vignette for me |
| 20:53.18 | fewyn | interesting |
| 20:53.22 | fewyn | i hadn't noticed that |
| 20:53.55 | nevcairiel | Vignettes even show up whentl the guy is dead for me |
| 20:54.06 | Neffi | --- yes! |
| 20:54.18 | Semlar | haven't seen that yet |
| 20:54.26 | Neffi | At least that's what I heard from some blue quote. After the first time you kill a rare, it's no longer rare for you |
| 20:54.29 | Neffi | or some such stuff |
| 20:55.00 | nevcairiel | In draenor, or shadowmoon specifically I've seen that |
| 20:55.02 | Unkle | They stop giving you improved loot. |
| 20:55.11 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/7MJZ0jO.jpg |
| 20:55.39 | Semlar | this is the rare i killed in this vidya http://youtu.be/rsZIDnZHTQo |
| 20:55.49 | nevcairiel | Vignette on the minimap, I run there, dead mob on the ground |
| 20:56.11 | Semlar | nevcairiel: rares respawn so fast that there are rare corpses all over the place around where they spawn |
| 20:56.22 | Semlar | so the vignette could be for a live version of it |
| 20:56.23 | Neffi | "jitter bug" lol |
| 20:56.35 | Semlar | maybe even not one you can see |
| 20:56.41 | fewyn | crap |
| 20:56.44 | fewyn | i forgot to backup the beta |
| 20:56.48 | fewyn | before i reformatted |
| 20:56.48 | fewyn | ugh |
| 20:56.55 | fewyn | good thing i have decent internet |
| 20:58.02 | Semlar | i was camping next to Coldtusk while i was working on my addon and he's running over 3 of his corpses |
| 20:59.45 | Unkle | Stuck looting. Joy |
| 20:59.54 | Semlar | well, i was going to code in the quest id for each rare to exclude them if their vignette pops up but if they stop showing up after you kill them then i guess i don't need to |
| 21:00.35 | Unkle | They still show as silver skulls on the minimap, but I they lose the silver-elite status after your first kill. |
| 21:00.48 | Semlar | this one is definitely not showing a vignette |
| 21:01.08 | Unkle | That might be a different mechanism. :) |
| 21:01.32 | Semlar | he had one yesterday |
| 21:02.01 | Semlar | i'll try killing some of the others |
| 21:02.42 | Semlar | SetCreature apparently takes the display ID as an optional argument now |
| 21:02.55 | Semlar | i'm not entirely sure what that would do |
| 21:05.59 | Semlar | maybe something to fall back on if the npcID doesn't load |
| 21:09.22 | Semlar | that doesn't seem to be the case |
| 21:28.20 | *** join/#wowuidev Fenix (~Fenix@cpe-74-138-92-58.swo.res.rr.com) |
| 21:29.09 | Unkle | Cooking skill 666 - I can work for Gordon Ramsey now. |
| 21:32.31 | fewyn | i wish auctions lasted longer... i sometimes feel 48 hours is way too short |
| 21:34.16 | Unkle | Buy Orders would be nice too. |
| 21:40.11 | fewyn | i love the eve market |
| 21:40.16 | fewyn | i can put stuff up for 3 months |
| 21:42.37 | zenzelezz | buy orders ought to be in any game with an AH these days |
| 21:43.04 | foxlit | market opportunity for chinese gold farmers, imo |
| 21:43.42 | foxlit | âSend us a message with what you want to buy at what price, and weâll get it from the AH for you!â |
| 21:44.15 | foxlit | (for the low, low price of 2%, which weâll reduce to 0 if you buy some gold. Psst, gold!) |
| 21:46.51 | zenzelezz | not sure I entirely understood that particular example, but I see what you're saying |
| 22:40.06 | foxlit | http://www.townlong-yak.com/opie/macros << thoughts? |
| 22:54.09 | Unkle | Nice. |
| 22:54.16 | Fisker | Looks good |
| 22:54.56 | Unkle | I like your zone and talent expansions. |
| 22:59.58 | *** join/#wowuidev plaw (~plaw@guifications/user/plaw) |
| 23:00.40 | foxlit | I worry slightly that the metacommands might be too complex for people to actually use :( |
| 23:01.02 | Neffi | they seem simple, really. you explained them well |
| 23:01.19 | Neffi | I really like [form:cat] |
| 23:01.30 | Neffi | currently my druid has tons of [form:0] [form:1] etc |
| 23:02.17 | foxlit | and cat changed on beta, which is awkward. |
| 23:02.57 | Neffi | hmm? |
| 23:03.03 | Neffi | you mean the level 100 talent? |
| 23:04.07 | foxlit | no, I mean the disappearance of aquatic form. |
| 23:04.40 | Neffi | yeah that's seriously irking me as a druid. I love casting that stuff explicitly, and macroing it together logically is trivial |
| 23:04.53 | foxlit | so itâs [form:3] on live and [form:2] on beta. |
| 23:05.15 | Neffi | isn't there an API call to check which form is which? or only while IN form? |
| 23:06.12 | Simca | doubtful |
| 23:06.49 | Fisker | I don't think it's that complex, but then again I'm not most people :P |
| 23:09.31 | foxlit | the indices correspond to GetShapeshiftFormInfo. |
| 23:11.03 | foxlit | Thereâs some weirdness that the guide merely hints at: you can use conditionals with those metacommands. So #mute [mod], #important [zone:Dalaran], etc. |
| 23:12.56 | foxlit | (I donât know why you would, but hey, completeness.) |
| 23:21.51 | *** join/#wowuidev TGiFallen_ (~TGiFallen@69.17.183.111) |
| 23:22.22 | Neffi | you might specifically want to be able to toggle what tooltip is shown with modifiers. it's a good feature |
| 23:26.25 | Neffi | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:26.36 | foxlit | psst, unit remapping |
| 23:26.47 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:27.01 | Neffi | wtf is a crew toy? |
| 23:27.05 | foxlit | r and h are not even close :/ |
| 23:27.22 | Neffi | funny guy |
| 23:28.44 | Fisker | Poor foxlit |
| 23:28.53 | Fisker | Go to bed |
| 23:29.35 | Fisker | Speaking of which |
| 23:29.52 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/content/store/cat.jpg ? |
| 23:30.14 | Fisker | No, not screw me |
| 23:30.21 | Fisker | Night |
| 23:30.49 | Simca | I think you accidentally typo'd "cat" when you meant to write "fisker" in that picture |
| 23:31.23 | foxlit | the proper translation is something else entirely. |
| 23:34.35 | Semlar | y u do dis neffi |
| 23:34.59 | foxlit | But it does raise a different question: is Fisker a cat? |
| 23:42.08 | Alram | Fisker: meow |
| 23:43.20 | Neffi | Semlar bcuz |
| 23:44.29 | Neffi | I have a new name on my bnet friends that I'm not quite sure I added. (S)he's called ThePoopSmith O.o |
| 23:48.49 | Semlar | a homestar runner fan, to be sure |
| 23:50.15 | Stanzilla | p3lim: http://paste2.org/OwGvhBvm when running in after a wipe in lfr |
| 23:50.37 | p3lim | Stanzilla: see the comments on wowi :p |
| 23:50.54 | Semlar | sanity checks p3lim |
| 23:51.05 | Semlar | returns false |
| 23:51.09 | p3lim | yeah he does |
| 23:51.44 | p3lim | I was not aware :GetTop() (and the likes) returned nil until it was shown (even though it was positioned) |
| 23:52.01 | p3lim | well, shown once |
| 23:52.07 | Semlar | are you sure it has a size and an anchor |
| 23:52.11 | p3lim | yup |
| 23:52.19 | Stanzilla | ah ok |
| 23:52.25 | Semlar | are you suuuure |
| 23:52.37 | p3lim | give the github version a whirl Stanzilla, let me know how it runs |
| 23:52.49 | p3lim | don't make me question myself :/ |
| 23:52.50 | Stanzilla | doing that now |
| 23:52.55 | Semlar | >_> |
| 23:53.37 | Semlar | i have a hard time believing a hidden frame won't return GetTop just because it's hidden |
| 23:58.19 | Semlar | well, it certainly works for a lua frame i created |
| 23:59.30 | Simca | yeah, like Semlar said, it has to either have a size and one anchor or enough anchors to define its size automatically |
