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| 00:09.47 | zenzelezz | http://theoatmeal.com/comics/flower - it really does feel like this sometimes |
| 00:26.42 | TC-Work | Looks like they are having a sale on items. |
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| 00:37.15 | Semlar | the quest panel button in the bottom right of the new world map has this small horizontal white line above that's driving me nuts |
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| 00:38.43 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/Py4XY6k.jpg |
| 00:41.17 | Semlar | i think it's the shadow texture |
| 00:41.30 | Semlar | which is using the newfangled atlas feature |
| 00:42.28 | Gethe | bad texcoords |
| 00:43.27 | Semlar | interface\\questframe\\questmaplogatlas |
| 00:44.35 | Semlar | they might need to play around with the coordinates some |
| 01:11.47 | Neffi | so what's this new texture atlas stuff? seems like we already have that with :SetTexCoord |
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| 01:23.21 | Gethe | Neffi: why? no clue. though there are a few details on how it works here. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/13421662064?page=1#1 |
| 01:25.36 | Semlar | i think they're basically just built in texture coordinates |
| 01:28.11 | Neffi | maybe a new implementation allows for some optimization or some such |
| 01:31.57 | znf | Why the hell doesn't the httpd logrotate.d thingie in CentOS come with compression enabled by default? :-/ |
| 01:32.15 | Kodiack | "In the pre-Warlords of Draenor patch, Dismiss Pet will no longer be in the Spellbook. Players will dismiss their pets by right-clicking on the pet's frame and selecting Dismiss Pet. We'll be adding a /petdismiss command so that UI Add-Ons will continue to have a way to dismiss pets." |
| 01:32.22 | Kodiack | Why am I just hearing about this now? |
| 01:32.31 | kd3|hate`net | it only got posted a few days ago iirc |
| 01:32.41 | Semlar | do you still have to be able to SEE your pet to dismiss it because that's insane |
| 01:32.57 | Kodiack | I hope not, Semlar. Pet dismissing is already a mess, especially for hunters where it's not instant |
| 01:33.06 | Semlar | you're almost invariably casting dismiss pet because the pet got stuck somewhere |
| 01:33.42 | Neffi | Hopefully this implies it will become instant for hunter pets |
| 01:33.43 | Kodiack | Yeah, my pets get stuck all the time on live, especially when I'm soloing old content. |
| 01:33.47 | Kodiack | I sure hope so, Neffi! |
| 01:33.59 | Kodiack | I've suggested that hunter pets work more like warlock pets for quite a while |
| 01:34.13 | Kodiack | As in, summoning/reviving them could have a cast time, but dismissal would be instant. |
| 01:34.15 | Semlar | i don't know, i think the reason it isn't instant is because warlocks have to summon theirs, or at least used to |
| 01:34.26 | Kodiack | They still have to summon them |
| 01:34.47 | Neffi | Semlar: But there's no practical impact to gameplay from making dismissal insta-cast |
| 01:34.49 | Semlar | i know they could just bypass the cast time with soul shards though |
| 01:34.54 | Neffi | It's a purely QOL change |
| 01:35.10 | Kodiack | Neffi, there is. Pet almost dead? Dismiss and summon a new one! |
| 01:35.11 | Semlar | i don't know if pvpers would see it that way |
| 01:35.31 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure your pet keeps its health when you dismiss it |
| 01:35.34 | Kodiack | Yeah. Insta-cast dismissal that doesn't incur a CD has the potential to be exploited by good players |
| 01:35.38 | Semlar | hunter pets |
| 01:36.03 | Neffi | if it retains its state across dismissal, that's not a problem |
| 01:37.14 | Semlar | i don't care if instant dismiss had a small cooldown |
| 01:37.17 | Semlar | you don't have to do it that often |
| 01:37.24 | Kodiack | Gah |
| 01:37.29 | Kodiack | It works exactly like I feared in the beta |
| 01:37.41 | Kodiack | It's the exact same as on live, but the Dismiss Pet button is missing |
| 01:38.05 | Kodiack | Switching pets doesn't auto-dismiss your current pet either. You have to right-click on your stupid pet, dismiss it, wait for the cast, then summon |
| 01:38.25 | Kodiack | Summoning a new pet should simply auto-dismiss your current pet (with the cast time) and then summon the new one after it's dismissed |
| 01:38.28 | Semlar | that's really annoying too, because there's a delay after you dismiss your pet before it works |
| 01:38.39 | Kodiack | Yeah. I'm going to go complain on the forums now. :D |
| 01:38.44 | Semlar | so the first time you try and call the new pet it still thinks you have one out |
| 01:39.06 | Semlar | it gets me every time |
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| 01:40.11 | Semlar | basically what i'm saying is i hate pets and why do i play a hunter |
| 01:41.51 | Neffi | play a druid and become the pet |
| 01:41.57 | Neffi | then you can irritate others |
| 01:42.18 | Kodiack | Semlar, I know what you're talking about. That seems to be better on beta with all of the batch-related changes, though. |
| 01:43.04 | Kodiack | They've been able to tweak some seriously awesome stuff with that. For example, Posthaste's move speed increase now doesn't come into effect until after landing a Disengage. It's a ridiculously smooth transition too |
| 01:43.58 | Kodiack | AAAAAAA <3 |
| 01:44.01 | Kodiack | They brought Glyph of Misdirection back |
| 01:44.38 | Semlar | is it though, i felt like posthaste lagged on the beta compared to live |
| 01:44.49 | Semlar | i want the buff when i hit the ground running, not after |
| 01:44.58 | Semlar | maybe they fixed that |
| 01:45.36 | Kodiack | I can't say I ever noticed that, and usually I'm pretty sensitive to those sorts of delays :P |
| 01:46.10 | Semlar | the speed boost definitely had a delay before it applied after i hit the ground |
| 01:46.32 | Kodiack | It's instant for me. Or at least, it sure feels like it. |
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| 01:46.54 | Kodiack | Even then, I could take a quarter of a second of a delay if it meant not wasting Posthaste up-time :D |
| 01:48.43 | Semlar | i don't think it's doing that any more |
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| 01:49.19 | Semlar | it was really annoying taking a step in slow motion before speeding up |
| 01:50.00 | Semlar | i'm also too used to disengage's reduced cooldown from my trinket |
| 01:50.31 | Kodiack | Yeah, same here! |
| 01:50.43 | Kodiack | I sure wish we could transfer our characters from live again </3 |
| 01:50.45 | Semlar | it takes an eternity to come back off cooldown on the beta |
| 01:51.05 | Semlar | well, the stupid trinket was reducing my cooldowns by like 2% when i copied my character so |
| 01:51.36 | Semlar | even at level 90 |
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| 01:52.52 | Semlar | i use disengage a lot |
| 01:53.19 | Semlar | mostly for the speed boost |
| 01:54.16 | Semlar | it's like a mini sprint on a 20 second cooldown |
| 01:54.20 | Kodiack | I do the same thing. Gotta go fast! |
| 01:55.15 | Semlar | i noticed they made stampede a talent, which is interesting |
| 01:55.44 | Semlar | i mean, i don't think either one of the other talents on that tier compare to stampede's damage on live |
| 01:55.56 | Kodiack | Probably not. |
| 01:56.10 | Semlar | crows is relatively inconvenient to use |
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| 01:56.24 | Kodiack | I hate MoC. I haven't taken that talent since early 5.0 |
| 01:56.33 | Kodiack | I don't care if it's a slight DPS increase. It sucks to use. |
| 01:56.35 | Semlar | i use it for some bosses |
| 01:56.43 | Semlar | but you're right, it sucks |
| 01:57.00 | Semlar | i'll use it with bestial wrath up to cut its cost in half |
| 01:57.55 | Semlar | if they cut its cooldown, duration, and focus cost in half it might be more appealing |
| 01:58.19 | Kodiack | Yep. Target-switching wouldn't be such a pain, and you wouldn't have to go as much out of your way to use it |
| 01:58.20 | Semlar | actually really i don't know if it should cost anything to cast |
| 01:58.32 | Semlar | at least not anywhere near as much focus as it does |
| 01:59.10 | Semlar | it does a lot of damage but since it lasts so long there are a lot of opportunities for it to get wasted |
| 02:00.11 | Semlar | blink strikes is convenient, when it doesn't teleport your pet into a crate |
| 02:00.56 | Semlar | or despawn it |
| 02:01.26 | Semlar | can't use blink strikes on immerseus because its back is so far away the pet despawns |
| 02:01.54 | Kodiack | Yeah, I was kind of surprised they never fixed that |
| 02:01.58 | Kodiack | It's even worse on Heroic Immerseus |
| 02:02.31 | Semlar | i basically couldn't use any of the talents from that tier on immerseus at the start because the crows triggered his debuff like nonstop |
| 02:02.53 | Semlar | they did fix that one |
| 02:04.53 | Semlar | looks like spirit bond is back down to 2% of your health every 2 seconds |
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| 02:05.57 | Semlar | i'm guessing it doesn't work if you use lone wolf |
| 02:06.16 | Kodiack | Nope :( |
| 02:06.25 | Semlar | that.. should probably be changed |
| 02:06.34 | Kodiack | It's intentional AFAIK |
| 02:06.40 | Kodiack | But really poor design :P |
| 02:06.42 | Semlar | i don't think you should lose a talent because you picked another one |
| 02:07.00 | Semlar | especially since you'd be getting half the benefit from it |
| 02:07.02 | Kodiack | Neither do I. Blizz is adding punishment to not taking a pet, though |
| 02:07.09 | Kodiack | You don't get Master's Call either, unsurprisingly |
| 02:07.18 | Kodiack | Half the benefit? None of the benefit! |
| 02:07.31 | Semlar | if it worked, it would only heal you |
| 02:08.05 | Semlar | didn't this do something for BM hunters? |
| 02:08.11 | Semlar | this can't be final |
| 02:08.12 | Kodiack | Actually, they put in a "mutually exclusive" limit for glyphs |
| 02:08.20 | Kodiack | Maybe they'll do something similar for Spirit Bond/Lone Wolf |
| 02:08.32 | Semlar | like, lone wolf literally doesn't do anything for BM right now |
| 02:08.44 | Kodiack | You can't choose it for BM. You get Adaptation or whatever |
| 02:08.50 | Kodiack | Adaptation seems decent |
| 02:08.51 | Semlar | it changes? |
| 02:08.54 | Kodiack | Yes |
| 02:08.58 | Semlar | i don't even have a spec |
| 02:09.03 | Kodiack | lol |
| 02:09.07 | Kodiack | Pop into BM and see what it changes to |
| 02:09.20 | Semlar | oh god if talents transform based on your spec that is going to be confusing |
| 02:09.31 | Semlar | i wish it would show you everything it could be |
| 02:10.04 | Semlar | an addon could probably do this |
| 02:10.13 | znf | Semlar, ..?! |
| 02:10.16 | znf | why? :-| |
| 02:10.32 | znf | why would you need that? |
| 02:10.37 | Semlar | why do i want to be able to know what a talent can do in other specs? |
| 02:10.52 | Kodiack | Most talents will stay the exact same |
| 02:11.04 | znf | Semlar, yes...? |
| 02:11.14 | Kodiack | I think they used to show the differences for various specs, but changed that. *shrug* I don't care enough either way |
| 02:11.28 | Semlar | because right now, i have no spec, and reading lone wolf i'd assume that this talent does nothing for BM |
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| 02:11.49 | Semlar | so it should really show you what it actually does |
| 02:12.49 | znf | "GET /s-a-lansat-bitdefender-antivirus-2015/feed/ HTTP/1.1" 200 22215 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.10 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/7.0.544.0 Safari/534.10" |
| 02:12.51 | znf | wth Chrome 7 |
| 02:14.42 | Kodiack | Chrome 7? oh god |
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| 02:18.25 | Semlar | um is freezing trap exclusive to survival now |
| 02:19.07 | tem | At what point during the load process does UnitClass("player") return a valid result? |
| 02:19.16 | Semlar | probably player_login |
| 02:19.24 | tem | for some reason, I think I'm remembering that it always returns a good value |
| 02:19.49 | tem | that it was changed at some point to be able to do that |
| 02:20.10 | znf | just hook player enter world |
| 02:20.44 | Neffi | tem: It always returns good info, incl at initial load time |
| 02:20.47 | znf | or PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 02:20.48 | znf | :P |
| 02:20.49 | Neffi | No need to wait for an event |
| 02:20.55 | Neffi | Source: I'm using it myself |
| 02:21.04 | tem | that's kind of what I thought, but I couldn't find a good source on it |
| 02:21.29 | Semlar | you can literally just do CLASS = UnitClass('player') at the top of your file and check what that global contains to confirm |
| 02:21.51 | Guillotine | Yeah, UnitClass should always have a good value for "player", but not other tokens. |
| 02:22.57 | tem | class specific addon first line: if select(2, UnitClass("player")) ~= "INTENDEDCLASS" then return end |
| 02:24.44 | Neffi | looks correct |
| 02:25.32 | tem | hey, Guillotine the rune events seem a bit spammy |
| 02:27.00 | tem | looks like you get a RUNE_POWER_UPDATE for every rune currently on CD when any other RPU happens |
| 02:27.32 | tem | also, thanks for confirming that |
| 02:29.49 | tem | hmm, it's not all of them. looks like only the ones caused by spending a rune |
| 02:30.14 | tem | so the RPUs from when your rune comes back are solo |
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| 03:11.26 | Torhal | Guillotine: Did you see the messages the other day about InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToCategory being broken since its introduction in TBC? |
| 03:14.44 | TC-Work | Torhal: Did you see his lack of care? |
| 03:15.40 | Torhal | TC-Work: No, I don't. Is it of the Zero Fucks (â¢) variety? |
| 03:16.06 | TC-Work | Torhal: I didn't either. |
| 03:16.39 | Torhal | Your intervention is confusing. |
| 03:16.49 | Torhal | Methinks MOAR Beer is required. |
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| 03:32.40 | TC-Work | Torhal: I was making a joke, but then I realized you really don't know him, and the joke kinda required it. |
| 03:33.21 | Torhal | TC-Work: I've met him, at last year's Blizzcon...but beyond that, aye - don't really know him. |
| 03:34.25 | TC-Work | Torhal: And the first time I met him was ~15-20 years ago. I have a slight advantage. |
| 03:34.43 | Torhal | SoBad.php |
| 03:34.52 | TC-Work | Huh? |
| 03:34.59 | TC-Work | Is that the beer kicking in? |
| 03:35.02 | Torhal | I'm being absurd. |
| 03:35.06 | TC-Work | Sp yes. |
| 03:35.08 | TC-Work | So* |
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| 04:12.53 | Mr_Rabies | i'm gonna put my chopper in the stable on day 1 |
| 04:13.24 | Mr_Rabies | seeing a driverless chopper roaming like an animal is my life goal now |
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| 04:26.40 | Semlar | can you feed your chopper |
| 04:26.48 | Semlar | will it fetch |
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| 04:43.56 | Neffi | fetches Semlar |
| 04:44.04 | Semlar | halp! |
| 04:44.06 | tem | am I seeing this correctly? a translation animation's offsets are in screen coordinates and not object coordinates? |
| 04:44.25 | Semlar | if you're going by wowprogramming it's WRONG |
| 04:44.36 | Semlar | otherwise, i don't know if they've changed it |
| 04:44.43 | tem | I'm going by what I'm observing in game |
| 04:44.45 | tem | and hoping that I'm crazy |
| 04:44.54 | Semlar | translation coordinates are offset from its starting position |
| 04:44.57 | Semlar | on live |
| 04:44.59 | tem | yes |
| 04:45.07 | tem | but it seems to be in screen space |
| 04:45.10 | tem | no object space |
| 04:45.16 | Semlar | not sure what that means |
| 04:45.30 | tem | it's not scaled with the object |
| 04:45.33 | Semlar | you mean unscaled coordinates pixels? |
| 04:45.55 | tem | yes |
| 04:46.14 | Semlar | that's not too surprising |
| 04:47.11 | Semlar | should be able to just multiply by GetEffectiveScale to counter it |
| 04:47.55 | tem | yeah, but it's a bit of an unexpected quirk |
| 04:48.37 | Semlar | working with the animation system will very quickly make you want to do it all manually |
| 04:49.07 | tem | yeah.... |
| 04:50.04 | tem | I just noticed that if I manually position the object to its final position during the OnFinished handler, I get 1 frame of it being translated from there |
| 04:50.22 | tem | I'm about to try delaying that until the next OnUpdate, but holy hell, really? |
| 04:50.23 | Semlar | you can add an end delay or whatever |
| 04:50.41 | Semlar | so it pauses when it completes its animation |
| 04:51.07 | tem | âunless I'm misunderstanding, I don't see how that would help me |
| 04:51.22 | Torhal | runs OnValueChanged in an OnUpdate while Semlar tries to test ScrollFrame code. |
| 04:52.20 | Semlar | you pause the animation, move the frame and stop the animation, i don't think it should reset before that |
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| 04:52.46 | tem | good lord |
| 04:53.14 | Semlar | i don't know, it's been a while since i used animations |
| 04:54.08 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure the end delay occurs after firing OnFinished |
| 04:54.27 | Semlar | so it'll fire the event and still pause there |
| 04:55.08 | Neffi | inserts cyclic references into Torhal's code |
| 04:55.35 | Semlar | tries to calm torhal down |
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| 04:57.38 | bluspacecow | ~seen ma brain |
| 04:57.39 | purl | bluspacecow: i haven't seen 'ma brain' |
| 04:57.41 | bluspacecow | ~lastseen my brain |
| 04:57.49 | bluspacecow | ~seen mikord |
| 04:57.50 | purl | i haven't seen 'mikord', bluspacecow |
| 04:57.53 | Neffi | hey blu. lost your brain? |
| 04:57.55 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 04:58.14 | bluspacecow | http://www.curseforge.com/profiles/mikord/ |
| 04:58.16 | bluspacecow | where go ? |
| 04:58.25 | Semlar | gone |
| 04:58.32 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 04:58.39 | bluspacecow | as in gone from the addon author world ? |
| 04:59.17 | nevcairiel | Who knows. He never was especially fast updating stuff |
| 05:00.01 | bluspacecow | wheres a good place to find 6.x API changes gaize ? |
| 05:00.16 | nevcairiel | The beta client! |
| 05:00.25 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 05:00.41 | nevcairiel | Also, wowpedia |
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| 05:00.48 | bluspacecow | http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1555281-Mods-activated-on-Beta?p=28742165&viewfull=1#post28742165 |
| 05:01.02 | Torhal | inserts table.getn() and getglobal() into Neffi's neural processes. |
| 05:01.29 | bluspacecow | inserts hair.afro[do] into Torhal |
| 05:01.38 | bluspacecow | its a microphone! |
| 05:02.24 | Torhal | inserts "while (not_insane) do MakeSense() end" into bluspacecow's programming. New Zealand cycle-locks. |
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| 05:02.37 | bluspacecow | lololololol |
| 05:02.47 | nevcairiel | That loop wouldn't run for blu |
| 05:03.05 | Neffi | I suddenly feel like parts of my brain have become redundant and useless, Torhal |
| 05:03.30 | tem | there we go. if you manually call :Stop() on the animation, and :SetPoint immediately after, you can get rid of the flicker |
| 05:04.25 | bluspacecow | so it stop! â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦. hammer time |
| 05:04.27 | tem | hmm maybe not? |
| 05:04.34 | tem | sigh |
| 05:04.45 | bluspacecow | maybe you need to add the âoh eh oh oh eh oh â bit |
| 05:15.19 | Semlar | look what you did |
| 05:15.48 | bluspacecow | not an mc hammer fan then ? |
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| 05:37.13 | Torhal | nevcairiel: Actually, no - I firmly believe that bluspacecow is quite sane. He is, however, a Kiwi. |
| 05:37.26 | Torhal | Neffi: ^ |
| 05:37.27 | bluspacecow | ... |
| 05:37.29 | bluspacecow | nuff |
| 05:37.30 | bluspacecow | said |
| 05:37.36 | bluspacecow | we eat hand sized insects here |
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| 05:39.41 | bluspacecow | shower tiems |
| 05:40.54 | Ironi | does anyone have experience with sine-waves? |
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| 05:43.47 | nevcairiel | What's to have experience with. Sines are pretty easy |
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| 05:44.53 | Neffi | as somebody with ears, I have a shitload of experience with sine waves, Ironi ;) |
| 05:45.10 | Neffi | also eyes |
| 05:45.14 | Ironi | mayby if you have done them before, this is my first time ever doing anything with them :D |
| 05:45.48 | Torhal | exposes Neffi's sense to Seinfeld waves. |
| 05:45.50 | Ironi | what im trying to do is to calculate how much eclipse power you have at x time |
| 05:46.09 | Torhal | Yes. Sense. Not Senses. Because FUCK plurals. |
| 05:46.15 | Torhal | Oh, damn it. |
| 05:46.17 | Torhal | :/ |
| 05:46.31 | End | please don't fuck plurals |
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| 05:47.18 | Ironi | math.asin(50/105)/math.pi*20 shows at what point you reach 50 eclipse power, but i don't know how to reverse that :/ |
| 05:47.28 | Neffi | Torhal: what's the deal with color |
| 05:48.20 | Torhal | Neffi: Well, apparently, orange is the new black. |
| 05:48.45 | Neffi | <_< |
| 05:49.06 | kd3|hate`net | is the design team putting orange on all the things? |
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| 05:50.57 | Neffi | http://imgur.com/gallery/WHKA2jx omg |
| 05:51.12 | End | Ironi: arcsine is the inverse of sine |
| 05:51.34 | Torhal | Goddamn it. What's wrong with inverssine? |
| 05:51.38 | Torhal | :/ |
| 05:51.46 | Torhal | blames Semlar's soggy floorboards. |
| 05:51.50 | Semlar | :( |
| 05:52.12 | End | hm, good question |
| 05:52.39 | End | apparently because it just means "the arc whose cosine is x" |
| 05:52.41 | Torhal | Confound it. I did something awesome enough with coroutines that I require pcall. |
| 05:53.51 | Iriel | Ironi: what do you mean âreverse that"? |
| 05:54.12 | Neffi | Torhal: just wrap it in another coroutine |
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| 05:54.38 | Torhal | Neffi: local function cocoroutine() |
| 05:54.50 | Neffi | +1 torhal |
| 05:55.14 | End | teamcocoroutine |
| 05:55.16 | Neffi | also this has to be the most brilliant thing I've ever seen somebody do in a video game http://youtu.be/rFXw3nJIy7c |
| 05:55.44 | Ironi | for example math.asin(50/105)/math.pi*20 = 3.159...., basicly i want to know how much eclipse power i have at 3.159 |
| 05:56.24 | Iriel | where thereâs an X instead of the 50? |
| 05:56.50 | Iriel | math.asin(X / 105) = 3.159 * math.pi / 20 |
| 05:56.53 | Semlar | math.asian? |
| 05:57.02 | nevcairiel | Yeah, put an X and solve |
| 05:57.08 | nevcairiel | Math to the rescuy |
| 05:57.09 | Iriel | X = math.sin(3.159 * math.pi / 20) * 105 |
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| 06:02.54 | karl_w_w | you haven't watch many BF4 videos, Neffi |
| 06:02.58 | karl_w_w | watched |
| 06:03.09 | Ironi | not quite what i wanted, or i just messed it up, what i want is to know how much power (0-105) i have at point x (0-8) |
| 06:03.32 | Ironi | math.asin(x/105)/math.pi*20 shows at what time (0-8) i have x amount of power |
| 06:04.53 | Iriel | so x= math.sin(t * math.pi / 20) * 105 |
| 06:08.08 | nevcairiel | The math seems to check out, looks funky though. :) |
| 06:08.20 | Ironi | i guess i messed up earlier since results were off, thanks |
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| 06:09.03 | bluspacecow | y is torhal fucking plurals ? |
| 06:09.08 | bluspacecow | fuck twins |
| 06:09.13 | bluspacecow | much more fun |
| 06:13.26 | Torhal | bluspacecow: Twinned twins. |
| 06:13.33 | Torhal | Farscape FTMFW. |
| 06:14.14 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 06:14.16 | bluspacecow | mind |
| 06:14.19 | bluspacecow | blown |
| 06:19.52 | Torhal | bluspacecow: Why? Because I mentioned Farscape, or because you knew the episode I was referencing? |
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| 06:26.43 | znf | https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/17d7a62d63b60461f8d592d9884a5130e737795f59e895f1e71da07c37a0b0e2/analysis/1407565292/ |
| 06:26.44 | znf | vs. |
| 06:26.47 | znf | https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/6210806fcc7041a6bbb7c3f3ccefaaf5417fb446391a158462197e6a3c19faf5/analysis/ |
| 06:27.09 | znf | in the first example, the .zip contains the virus; is only detected by 3 antivirus solutions |
| 06:27.20 | znf | apparently puting a .png in a .zip fools shitloads of scanners... |
| 06:29.11 | jnwhiteh | Semlar: whats wrong? |
| 06:29.25 | jnwhiteh | (re wowprogramming, something I can fix?) |
| 06:29.54 | karl_w_w | znf, TrendMicro-HouseCall doesn't flag it out of the zip |
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| 06:30.33 | znf | karl_w_w, indeed. Probably they haven't received/analyzed the mail I sent them |
| 06:30.40 | znf | yesterday only Bkav detected the social.png file |
| 06:30.49 | znf | Today 12/54 after I mass-mailed them |
| 06:31.22 | Semlar | jnwhiteh: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Translation/SetOffset makes it sound like the translation offset is relative to the screen |
| 06:31.45 | Semlar | when it's actually in relation to the object's origin |
| 06:32.25 | nevcairiel | You can edit it :) |
| 06:32.29 | Semlar | YOU can edit it |
| 06:32.34 | Semlar | i'll watch |
| 06:32.35 | bluspacecow | @Torhal no itâs because Iâm a bisexual pervert and was thinking of _all_ the possibilities |
| 06:32.56 | Semlar | tries to calm bluspacecow down |
| 06:33.05 | bluspacecow | ty semlar |
| 06:33.19 | karl_w_w | Semlar, if the region starts off the left side of the screen and you give it a positive x value does it move left? |
| 06:33.33 | karl_w_w | cos if not it's also worded wrong |
| 06:34.15 | Semlar | positive X would move it right |
| 06:34.33 | Semlar | regardless of where it starts |
| 06:35.25 | jnwhiteh | edited |
| 06:35.38 | Semlar | ^_^ |
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| 06:38.49 | znf | do I need to escape < > in MySQL? |
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| 06:53.49 | Thunder_Child | znf: I don't think so, but then I have never used them in it. |
| 06:55.50 | znf | http://pastebin.com/zuYBEgEW |
| 06:55.54 | znf | what's wrong with this query? |
| 06:57.03 | znf | Oh. |
| 06:57.08 | znf | Missing single quote |
| 06:57.15 | Thunder_Child | ^ |
| 06:57.20 | znf | (s) |
| 06:57.25 | Thunder_Child | a few of them it would seem |
| 06:58.20 | znf | Hmmm, mkay, that like %<video% doesn't work :-/ |
| 06:59.44 | znf | oh, it does, nevermind |
| 07:00.10 | Thunder_Child | Good, because I was not finding anything about '<' being a keyword. |
| 07:00.42 | Thunder_Child | Although it is in Oracle. |
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| 07:05.40 | znf | aaand, wth am I doing wrong here? http://regex101.com/r/fE6eT3/1 |
| 07:09.35 | Semlar | well for one thing you're using regex to parse html |
| 07:11.12 | Semlar | i don't think . is matching newlines in this |
| 07:16.28 | Semlar | how do you link with this |
| 07:16.48 | Semlar | znf: http://regex101.com/r/fE6eT3/2 |
| 07:17.15 | znf | <3 thanks |
| 07:17.31 | Semlar | you have to flag it so dot matches newlines |
| 07:18.07 | Semlar | and also you probably want to use .*? so it isn't greedy, because if this same text appears multiple times in the document it could match a loooot more than you're expecting |
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| 07:27.12 | Torhal | znf: You're using regex to parse HTML? DAFUQ is wrong with you? |
| 07:27.33 | Torhal | stabs Semlar with a stim. |
| 07:27.39 | Torhal | Fix that boy, y0! |
| 07:27.42 | znf | Torhal, I'm also using PHP |
| 07:27.57 | Semlar | you can still navigate the dom |
| 07:28.02 | Torhal | znf: I'm kinda sorta sure you're almost unsalvageable. |
| 07:28.33 | Semlar | it's super inefficient to use regex like this |
| 07:28.34 | znf | I could navigate the dom, but I wouldn't even know how to do that for partial dom content thingie |
| 07:28.58 | Semlar | you should be able to make an xpath to the element fairly easily |
| 07:29.05 | Mr_Rabies | i'm hiring a sarcastic brit named reginald to parse my html, i call him regex |
| 07:29.19 | znf | Semlar, that's honestly too much work |
| 07:29.20 | Torhal | Mr_Rabies: He's likely more efficient. |
| 07:29.33 | znf | I really dislike xpath with a passion |
| 07:29.33 | Mr_Rabies | there's no html and no reginald sorry guys i lied i just wanted to fit in |
| 07:29.34 | Torhal | Mr_Rabies: znf is nuckin' futz. |
| 07:29.45 | Fisker | Hey Torhal |
| 07:29.50 | Torhal | stabs Mr_Rabies with Neffi. |
| 07:30.00 | Torhal | Fisker: You must be my assassin on this case. |
| 07:30.14 | Fisker | Why? |
| 07:30.56 | Semlar | the element even has an id |
| 07:31.17 | Neffi | does that make me an accessory to murder? |
| 07:31.25 | Torhal | Neffi: Youre THE accessory. |
| 07:31.27 | Semlar | i think it makes you accessory for murder |
| 07:31.36 | Neffi | <_< |
| 07:33.11 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:33.21 | Mr_Rabies | even though it's totally a waste in a few months i still kinda want an addon that pre-squishes everything :( |
| 07:33.37 | nevcairiel | Good luck with that |
| 07:33.57 | Mr_Rabies | i mean, i know stuff like hit and expertise would have to just be bsed |
| 07:34.08 | Semlar | sounds like YOU need http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info20957-NerfEverything.html |
| 07:34.11 | Mr_Rabies | since they're being removed |
| 07:34.15 | Semlar | there's no way this addon still works at all |
| 07:34.21 | znf | nerf it by 20 |
| 07:34.46 | Semlar | it also taints everything in the interface |
| 07:35.11 | Mr_Rabies | that's a semlar seal of quality |
| 07:35.26 | nevcairiel | Its probably like 2 month until the pre-patch, just go sleep a bit |
| 07:35.33 | Neffi | "local uh,uhm" /chuckles |
| 07:35.39 | Mr_Rabies | oh jesus no why https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZkEf6Hz5Lw |
| 07:35.54 | znf | Question - why don't html entities render in xml transformed with xsl? |
| 07:36.04 | Semlar | it never caught on |
| 07:36.44 | Semlar | i think blizzard had one of the only websites i've ever seen that actually used xslt |
| 07:36.47 | znf | the addon or xsl? :P |
| 07:36.51 | znf | Oh |
| 07:36.52 | znf | rigt |
| 07:37.10 | Semlar | it's also additional processing, i believe |
| 07:37.15 | nevcairiel | xslt can do some nice things, but it's so rarely used |
| 07:37.16 | Semlar | so it can take longer to render |
| 07:37.38 | Semlar | it's sort of like a stylesheet that turns xml into html |
| 07:37.49 | znf | "sort of"? that's exactly what it is :P |
| 07:37.52 | znf | only not just html |
| 07:38.04 | nevcairiel | It can output whatever |
| 07:39.37 | Semlar | outputs neffi |
| 07:39.49 | znf | I'd like to see the stylesheet for that! |
| 07:39.57 | Semlar | nope, he's not putting out |
| 07:40.39 | Neffi | lol |
| 07:40.56 | Neffi | I'm not that kinda girl, semlar |
| 07:41.22 | Semlar | your mouth says no but your eyes say yes |
| 07:43.16 | Semlar | alright, i suggest hooking the SetText and SetFormattedText functions in the font string metatable and just modify every number you see |
| 07:43.38 | Semlar | i'm sure that won't have any negative side effects |
| 07:43.43 | Neffi | Um, I dont think that's a good idea semlar |
| 07:43.58 | znf | I so hate the zip binary on linux |
| 07:44.08 | znf | it's so backwards when you compare it with tar/gzip etc. |
| 07:46.46 | Semlar | neffi i don't think some of these flying mounts were meant to be ground mounts |
| 07:48.11 | Mr_Rabies | someone who has the stable open for their garrison please test some inorganic mounts thanks in advance |
| 07:48.21 | Mr_Rabies | i wanna see some magic carpets and motorcycles munchin' on some hay |
| 07:48.45 | Neffi | apparently all sorts of weird mount stuff is happening... |
| 07:49.31 | Semlar | this armored elekk in the mount journal looks crazy though |
| 07:50.37 | Semlar | http://beta.wowhead.com/spell=171626 yeah i'm not sure this is accurate, wowhead |
| 07:52.39 | Semlar | Apply Aura: Mounted (White Stallion) |
| 07:52.54 | Neffi | View in 3D -> lol |
| 07:54.18 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/ksPbBe5.jpg |
| 07:55.08 | bluspacecow | Addon resource usage (not including lua memory): 61624 |
| 07:55.16 | bluspacecow | Total lua memory: 26162KB |
| 07:55.26 | bluspacecow | *derpy puzzled look* |
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| 08:28.15 | znf | dear Avira, |
| 08:28.19 | znf | Your analysts are retarded |
| 08:28.19 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/k9ZbLSS.png |
| 08:30.10 | Mr_Rabies | what, znf |
| 08:30.24 | znf | Mr_Rabies, they scanned the file and found nothing |
| 08:30.36 | Mr_Rabies | what is the file? |
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| 08:36.03 | Mr_Rabies | scrolled up, that's nuts |
| 08:36.38 | Mr_Rabies | is it just a problem for hosts or can it actually be an issue for end-users as well? |
| 08:37.58 | nevcairiel | hey znf, share the original |
| 08:38.02 | bluspacecow | what kind of girl are you Neffi ? |
| 08:38.24 | znf | nevcairiel, the infected one? |
| 08:38.30 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 08:38.40 | znf | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/120650/social.png |
| 08:39.11 | znf | err |
| 08:39.13 | znf | wait |
| 08:39.20 | Mr_Rabies | should probably have hxxped that or something |
| 08:39.20 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 08:39.28 | znf | There https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/120650/social.png.txt |
| 08:39.38 | Mr_Rabies | probably not the best to host a virus on your dropbox either :p |
| 08:39.53 | znf | eh |
| 08:39.54 | nevcairiel | its a php script, its not like it infects a windows pc |
| 08:40.05 | znf | honestly, it's quite smart :P |
| 08:40.19 | znf | the design, I mean |
| 08:40.59 | znf | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/120650/cb4a9c648c05137ead28d882791964e7_php.txt for a somewhat decoded version |
| 08:41.06 | Mr_Rabies | everything's obfuscated as all hell on the pastebin |
| 08:41.15 | Mr_Rabies | also i'm glad i use nod32 :p |
| 08:41.25 | bluspacecow | *waggles eyebrows at Neffi* |
| 08:41.28 | bluspacecow | how you doin |
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| 08:41.37 | nevcairiel | i honestly wouldnt worry about a desktop antivirus not finding it |
| 08:41.44 | nevcairiel | since it cant really infect a desktop :D |
| 08:41.56 | znf | nod32 were the first ones to actually reply to my e-mail telling me they added it |
| 08:42.03 | Mr_Rabies | it's always quick at finding stuff, or heuristically blocking it |
| 08:42.15 | nevcairiel | its also good at bringin your system down |
| 08:42.25 | Mr_Rabies | howso? |
| 08:42.43 | znf | I submitted it because the originator of the infected files links to VirusTotal.com |
| 08:42.50 | nevcairiel | maybe they improved, but a couple years back when I was running it, it was a serious hog on everything |
| 08:42.52 | znf | which didn't pick up nothing |
| 08:42.56 | Mr_Rabies | oh yeah there was a version |
| 08:42.59 | Mr_Rabies | version 6 i think? |
| 08:43.01 | Mr_Rabies | with HUGE memory leaks |
| 08:43.10 | Mr_Rabies | no, version 4 or 5 |
| 08:43.21 | znf | I think that was version 3 :P |
| 08:43.31 | znf | 2.97 or something like that was the bst |
| 08:43.32 | Mr_Rabies | the way to fix them was do a totally fresh install of nod32 |
| 08:43.39 | Mr_Rabies | importing the settings from an old version like |
| 08:43.42 | Mr_Rabies | really, really broke something |
| 08:44.05 | Mr_Rabies | version 3 wasn't bad, 4 was pretty good, i'm pretty sure it was 5 |
| 08:44.36 | Mr_Rabies | i'm running 6 now and it doesn't do much of anything unless i have it set to scan |
| 08:45.06 | Mr_Rabies | i do a daily scan at like 6am, it's usually over by noon unless i haven't restarted in like, 2 months plus |
| 08:45.15 | Mr_Rabies | scanning uh |
| 08:45.27 | nevcairiel | 6 hours for a scan? no thanks :p |
| 08:45.28 | Mr_Rabies | a bit over 2 TB of data, probably? misc files |
| 08:45.53 | Mr_Rabies | games, video, audio, documents, everything |
| 08:45.57 | Trela | znf: Oh, I love back door PHP image files. :D |
| 08:46.05 | znf | Trela, it's quite fun |
| 08:46.23 | znf | OH! |
| 08:46.25 | znf | The chinese replied: http://i.imgur.com/c0E49Wj.png |
| 08:46.28 | znf | erm |
| 08:46.29 | znf | Korean |
| 08:46.33 | Trela | I have a treasure trove of various excellent full consoles and back door scripts people try to upload to Curse sites. |
| 08:46.48 | znf | Trela, that is specifically made for wordpress and joomla :P |
| 08:47.31 | znf | McAfee actually sent me a extra.dat file that detects the exploit |
| 08:47.43 | Trela | A few made to handle various pieces of PHP software. |
| 08:48.13 | Mr_Rabies | you guys are weird :p |
| 08:50.43 | Trela | znf: That actually looks similar to a PHP web shell I already have, but just obfuscated. |
| 08:51.23 | nevcairiel | there probably isnt that much unique code around |
| 08:52.56 | Trela | Yeah, I have the same code in Chinese and Russian, but the Russian version has all the bug fixes. |
| 08:53.03 | znf | OH! OH! |
| 08:53.12 | znf | Now it's 13/54 detections! |
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| 08:53.27 | znf | https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/6210806fcc7041a6bbb7c3f3ccefaaf5417fb446391a158462197e6a3c19faf5/analysis/1407574352/ |
| 08:53.40 | Siku | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:58.22 | znf | meh |
| 08:58.30 | znf | https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/4e13400a9dc319c83c8e75c9640b268718e19e1bcb1cbc1681bacca7e5be2786/analysis/1407574601/ <-- same exploit, but with a different file size |
| 08:58.39 | znf | only 4 antiviruses detect it :-/ |
| 08:59.32 | nevcairiel | their detections are just stupid |
| 08:59.58 | znf | yup |
| 09:03.24 | znf | TIL: Chrome's Developer Console has "Toggle Device Mode" thingie |
| 09:03.36 | znf | it can emulate different browsers / devices :o |
| 09:05.19 | nevcairiel | old |
| 09:05.43 | znf | :-( |
| 09:06.42 | haste | sadly it doesn't always work too well under linux |
| 09:07.02 | Fisker | fgsfds haste |
| 09:07.11 | haste | indeed |
| 09:07.18 | Fisker | older than dirt nevcairiel |
| 09:07.48 | haste | I just use the remote chrome developer console now |
| 09:08.09 | Fisker | I use haste |
| 09:08.43 | znf | I tried to use that |
| 09:08.46 | znf | it pissed me off :P |
| 09:08.52 | znf | plus, can't do that with an iphone |
| 09:09.20 | znf | also, screw whoever decided that an iPhone's viewer is only 320px wide |
| 09:09.26 | znf | viewport* |
| 09:24.50 | Fisker | poops in haste's place |
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| 09:47.32 | VIad | is it possible to run a function and encapsulate it, so that if there is an lua error it won't leak out to the rest of the ui? |
| 09:47.59 | nevcairiel | thats what pcall is for |
| 09:48.06 | VIad | awesome |
| 09:55.37 | VIad | wasn't there a time where you could play souinds and ommit the extensions? like, if I'm not wrong, you can drop .tga or .blp on textures |
| 09:56.31 | nevcairiel | that should still work |
| 09:56.42 | VIad | saw a thread about playing sound files not working on beta |
| 09:56.45 | nevcairiel | but i heard external sound playback is broken in the beta right now, maybe that part is broken |
| 09:56.50 | VIad | ok |
| 09:56.57 | VIad | just curious if .wav .mp3 .ogg is really needed at all :P |
| 09:57.01 | bluspacecow | get them to try /dump for that vlad |
| 09:57.14 | bluspacecow | ie /dump PlaySoundFile(âsound file nameâ) |
| 09:57.20 | bluspacecow | see if it comes back with an error |
| 09:57.31 | VIad | I remember it working long ago when I used sounds in some addons |
| 09:57.34 | VIad | was just curious :p |
| 09:59.33 | bluspacecow | its possible the sound file locations have changed. doesnât llok like PlaySoundFiles parameters have changed. |
| 10:00.31 | nevcairiel | did anyone document UnitPosition yet, ie. how to translate to local coordinates (good old 0-100) and whatnot? |
| 10:03.56 | VIad | I assume we need good ol astrolabe type of math - get the map offsets from dbc to be able to convert formulas to 0-100? |
| 10:18.33 | nevcairiel | can you run around the open draenor world on the lvl 100 realms? i remember it was blocked at some point.. |
| 10:21.16 | VIad | you mean "no mans land"? I think it's still there for unfinished areas |
| 10:27.05 | nevcairiel | and now my architect table is broken :( |
| 10:29.39 | VIad | :( |
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| 10:37.16 | nevcairiel | also whoever asked before, mechanical mounts also roam the stables and wander from hay stack to hay stack :P |
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| 11:03.05 | VIad | nevcairiel: the sandstone drake is in the stables |
| 11:03.22 | nevcairiel | whatever is your favorite mounts are in the stables |
| 11:03.37 | VIad | sandstone drake is the alchemist mount |
| 11:03.55 | VIad | "Transforms you into a Sandstone Drake, allowing you to fly very fast and carry an ally on your back. Â This is a flying mount." |
| 11:04.25 | VIad | implying there is a guy living in your stables, eating free food, disguised as a mount |
| 11:04.49 | nevcairiel | there is 100 guys in your garrison |
| 11:08.30 | VIad | are* |
| 11:08.34 | VIad | sorry I had to! |
| 11:15.04 | VIad | Semlar: you here mate? |
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| 13:35.39 | karl_w_w | im looking for a competitive game where you don't rely on other people not fucking up and it's not possible to get fucked over by rng or gimmicks. does such a thing exist? |
| 13:37.28 | zenzelezz | "not get fucked over by RNG" is asking for a bit much |
| 13:38.15 | zenzelezz | I hate when people in World of Tanks are playing tanks with wildly inaccurate guns, that still complain when their perfectly aimed shot misses |
| 13:38.34 | zenzelezz | "fu rng" |
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| 15:16.44 | Nimhfree | Hi all. Doea anyone know how to detect what garrison buildings are still in the process of being built (or actually finished)? C_Garrison.GetBuildings() seems to return the same values during construction and after it is complete. I know I can listen for GARRISON_BUILDING_ACTIVATED, but that only helps if I am online when it happens, and I do not want to maintain my own state of building readiness. |
| 15:20.59 | nevcairiel | Check what the blizzard ui does? |
| 15:29.52 | Nimhfree | Will do. Did not realize exportInterfaceFiles was working yet |
| 15:30.44 | foxlit | for some definition of working. It still dumps everything into one directory. |
| 15:37.39 | nevcairiel | You can find proper versions with the folder structure online |
| 15:37.44 | nevcairiel | Mostly on github |
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| 15:50.19 | Nimhfree | It turns out C_Garrison.GetOwnedBuildingInfoAbbrev() has an "isBuilding" return value that seems to work as expected. :-) |
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| 16:04.54 | VIad | karl_w_w: nsfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZobqKSSGPw |
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| 16:16.11 | karl_w_w | so old VIad |
| 16:17.01 | VIad | came out this monday lol |
| 16:17.07 | VIad | I didnt know you subscribe to combo wakamaka |
| 16:17.12 | karl_w_w | i dont |
| 16:17.36 | karl_w_w | probably saw it on the subreddit |
| 16:17.38 | karl_w_w | the commentary is from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1NeX32DxWE |
| 16:17.49 | VIad | jupp |
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| 16:45.22 | foxlit | assert(({1, 2, 3, [2]=4})[2] == 4) -- pop quiz: does this assertion fail or not? |
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| 16:48.25 | Maldivia | yes |
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| 16:48.33 | jleclanche | Cairenn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz4uNQFCeOw |
| 16:48.54 | Cairenn | hehhehe |
| 16:49.21 | foxlit | Maldivia: and is that behaviour correct? |
| 16:51.16 | foxlit | (assuming thatâs âyes, it failsâ rather than âyes, one of these two options I was asked to choose between is true!â) |
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| 16:54.16 | Maldivia | foxlit: I don't know if it's correct or not; I don't know where the specifications for which order table initialization is done in, is specified |
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| 16:55.57 | foxlit | I would assume http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.5.7 |
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| 16:57.45 | nevcairiel | Sounds like something that would be implementation defined |
| 16:59.39 | Maldivia | well, the example printed indicated that the order they appear in the constructor, is the order they are set in... but that doesn't seem to be the case here |
| 17:00.06 | nevcairiel | Well it doesn't necessarily imply that |
| 17:00.08 | foxlit | nevcairiel: why? Letting it be implementation-defined would introduce variation for no benefit. |
| 17:00.09 | Iriel | Oooh, did I miss the start of a language edge case conversation? |
| 17:00.25 | Shirik | yes me too Iriel :( |
| 17:00.30 | Maldivia | Iriel: ({1, [1] = 2 })[1] -- that is 1, not 2 |
| 17:02.51 | Shirik | so it does look like the reference interpreter will always set the explicit values first, and then finish with a SETLIST |
| 17:03.41 | Shirik | what's weird is it actually starts off by setting up the SETLIST operation |
| 17:03.57 | Shirik | then it goes off and does the other values |
| 17:04.00 | Shirik | then it finishes the SETLIST |
| 17:04.01 | Iriel | It probably builds the op in parse order |
| 17:04.10 | nevcairiel | Well sure, but what we wondered is if its specified somewhere |
| 17:04.25 | nevcairiel | Implementation not withstanding |
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| 17:04.41 | Iriel | Which you can see if you embed the assignment in the middle of a bunch if index implied keys |
| 17:05.41 | Shirik | yeah I was just about to try that |
| 17:05.58 | Iriel | shirik: It does pretty much exactly what youâd expect |
| 17:06.18 | Shirik | I guess it makes sense |
| 17:06.34 | Shirik | deferring the SETLIST to the end allows you to wait for the end of the table and just "commit" |
| 17:06.48 | Iriel | I do think that the 5.1 reference manual is misleading in this case. |
| 17:07.24 | Shirik | yeah it seems to imply that it is done in order |
| 17:07.26 | Shirik | when it's really not |
| 17:07.32 | Shirik | but to be fair, it doesn't actually state that |
| 17:07.51 | foxlit | yes it does |
| 17:07.55 | foxlit | f(1) may return 1. |
| 17:07.58 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 17:08.10 | foxlit | ... which doesnât do what I want. nevermind :( |
| 17:08.13 | Shirik | foxlit: exactly |
| 17:08.16 | Iriel | foxlit: even if it does, itâs still correct |
| 17:08.18 | Shirik | if f(1) returns 1, it's actually wrong |
| 17:08.29 | Shirik | oh wait no it's right |
| 17:08.31 | Shirik | but misleading |
| 17:09.14 | Iriel | One could pedantically argue that this proves that at the very least implied indexes are in order or come last |
| 17:09.16 | Fisker | Are you still in london? |
| 17:09.17 | foxlit | fwiw, I like the luajit implementation better: it sets the key/value pairs in the order they appear in the constructor. |
| 17:10.32 | Shirik | Fisker: yes |
| 17:10.33 | Iriel | Interestingly this is a perfect example of why implementation defined CAN be beneficial |
| 17:10.40 | Fisker | That's good Shirik |
| 17:10.57 | Iriel | Because the lua order makes code generation easier, and the luajit order presumably made Mikeâs implementation better. |
| 17:11.09 | Shirik | ^ |
| 17:11.25 | foxlit | Iriel: eh, slightly different reasoning. |
| 17:11.35 | foxlit | luaâs implementation can use SETLIST, which presumably allows them to save opcodes |
| 17:11.49 | Iriel | Implementation defined is rarely beneficial for the USER of the language 8-) |
| 17:11.57 | foxlit | They could just generate individual SET instructions in the order they appear in the code. |
| 17:12.22 | foxlit | which would make code generation pretty damn easy. |
| 17:14.02 | Iriel | And make longer code |
| 17:14.13 | Iriel | since youâd have an extra opcode per entry beyond the first |
| 17:14.23 | foxlit | "which presumably allows them to save opcodes" |
| 17:14.41 | Iriel | Ah, got it. |
| 17:14.52 | Iriel | I think itâs about space AND execution time. |
| 17:14.56 | Iriel | But who knows, iâm guessing. |
| 17:15.13 | Iriel | The moral is, write { <explicit keys>, <implicit keys>} if you MUST mix them and MIGHT overlap. |
| 17:15.21 | Iriel | and itâll work the same in both implementations that exist today |
| 17:15.40 | Iriel | but at the present state, it could break at any moment, so donât do that 8-) |
| 17:15.45 | foxlit | I basically had to split a table declaration into a local constructor and a table.insert to fix it afterward. |
| 17:16.02 | Iriel | You didnât HAVE to, you could have re-ordered it 8-) |
| 17:16.26 | Iriel | You get the âwrongâ table size too |
| 17:16.33 | Iriel | If you mix things with this trick |
| 17:16.46 | Iriel | because it uses the number of each type of thing to size the table |
| 17:16.57 | foxlit | Re-order this: r = random() > 0.5 t = {1, r and 2, r and 3, [r and 4 or 2]=âhi |
| 17:16.59 | foxlit | â} |
| 17:17.31 | Iriel | Thatâs abusive to begin with 8-) |
| 17:17.47 | Iriel | You should probably consider this your punishment |
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| 17:18.14 | Fisker | Do you know why it's good Shirik ? |
| 17:18.23 | foxlit | I think that should work perfectly fine if the table constructor was reasonably defined. |
| 17:22.14 | Iriel | Well, youâre requiring a SPECIFIC implementation, not just a well-defined one. |
| 17:22.43 | Iriel | But certainly the most intuitive one would work. |
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| 17:33.45 | jleclanche | jnwhiteh: are letting agencies in stockholm virtually non-existant or are they just.. like.. not on the internet |
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| 17:38.16 | foxlit | Iriel: itâs just a surprise gotcha in a language that generally doesnât have such things. |
| 17:38.50 | Siku | What is? |
| 17:42.45 | jleclanche | the verb "pleuvoir" in french, amongst other things |
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| 17:51.19 | jleclanche | kd3: was there a char wipe on the beta? |
| 17:51.46 | Semlar | not since yesterday |
| 17:52.51 | nevcairiel | There was this week, yes |
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| 18:04.21 | Semlar | does anyone know if the mount journal is in a different order in other languages |
| 18:04.41 | Semlar | it appears to be alphabetically sorted in english |
| 18:05.23 | Semlar | on the beta |
| 18:16.05 | kd3 | wow. the worldserver's having a hard time keeping up. |
| 18:17.18 | Semlar | i just got an "out of range" error for posthaste |
| 18:18.08 | Semlar | so it didn't give me a speed boost when i landed after disengage |
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| 18:24.07 | Nimhfree | Semlar: in beta, the mounts appear in the UI in alphabetical order in French |
| 18:24.47 | Semlar | what does C_MountJournal.GetMountInfo(2) give you |
| 18:25.01 | Semlar | something other than the albino drake? |
| 18:26.01 | Nimhfree | Aile-de-sang cuirasseée |
| 18:26.06 | Gethe | Semlar: i need a beta friend |
| 18:26.12 | Nimhfree | 139595 |
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| 18:26.25 | Semlar | alright, thanks nimhfree |
| 18:26.55 | Semlar | that means the journal indexes are different across localizations |
| 18:27.10 | Nimhfree | I can check other languages if you need |
| 18:27.28 | Semlar | nah, that's all i needed |
| 18:28.40 | Nimhfree | what is really interesting, is my UI displays in the first position the result of that API call index 1, and in second position the result on index 3. I do not see in my UI the results of index 2. |
| 18:29.18 | Nimhfree | it appears at the end, and is not highlighted. one assumes because it has not been bought at the store? |
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| 18:30.43 | Semlar | yeah i think the index is entirely based on alphabetical order of the whole list of mounts |
| 18:30.50 | Semlar | regardless of whether you own them or not |
| 18:31.24 | Nimhfree | yes, I would think so. you probably need to use mount codes instead of indexes for whatever you may be doing. |
| 18:37.04 | Semlar | uh is there a difference between GetClassInfo and GetClassInfoByID, they appear to both take and return exactly the same thing |
| 18:37.32 | nevcairiel | Sounds like different parameters |
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| 18:37.53 | Nimhfree | eekâ¦internet breakâ¦i hate equipment not working properly |
| 18:38.04 | Semlar | they both seem to take a number 1-11 and return the same values for them |
| 18:40.14 | Semlar | it's possible the order is different between localizations, again |
| 18:40.21 | Jamash | alphabetical perhaps |
| 18:41.40 | Semlar | http://wowpedia.org/ClassId this is what they both return |
| 18:43.42 | Jamash | nope, not even close to alphabetical |
| 18:43.54 | Industrial | Hi. |
| 18:44.42 | Jamash | not ordered by anything I can ascertain |
| 18:44.51 | Semlar | Nimhfree: can you check what this gives you /run C_MountJournal.Pickup(2) print(GetCursorInfo()) |
| 18:45.20 | kd3 | oh huh. they screwed up the flight map scaling |
| 18:46.01 | Industrial | Say I'd want to draw some stuff in photoshop and then use it in wow: 1) Are there any tutorials/guides on this so I can go rtfm? 2) How does one pixel in photoshop relate to one width unit in wow? How do I make the translation? 3) What procedure to use for exporting images/objects/layers/thingies as art in wow? file types and quality settings etc? 4) Is it possible to get (even if it's only on your own |
| 18:46.03 | Industrial | screen) pixel perfect design in wow? |
| 18:46.15 | Semlar | it's possible |
| 18:47.00 | Maldivia | didn't they also add an option for that in WoD? |
| 18:47.01 | Gethe | Semlar: mount 268 |
| 18:47.21 | Nimhfree | Semlar: that is not doing anything in my UI. both with the mount journal open and closed |
| 18:47.33 | Semlar | oh maybe you don't have that mount |
| 18:47.34 | Industrial | Semlar: any idea on the width? and/or how to make it pixel perfect? I just give my canvas the size of my screen? |
| 18:47.46 | Seerah | I think it was added in MoP, no? If you leave the UI Scale box unchecked, then it's 1:1, no? |
| 18:47.49 | Semlar | Nimhfree: just pick up the first mount in your list and dump the cursor info |
| 18:48.02 | Nimhfree | but when I pick it up manually, I get 46 |
| 18:48.04 | Maldivia | Industrial: textures are always power-2 in width/height, so 2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512 |
| 18:48.07 | Nimhfree | it is my second mount |
| 18:48.12 | Seerah | also hihi, Industrial :D |
| 18:48.18 | Semlar | what spell ID is that mount, if you can check |
| 18:48.46 | Nimhfree | for my first mount it is 455 |
| 18:48.54 | Maldivia | Seerah: ok, the thing I was referring to was the "useAtlasSize" thingy |
| 18:49.10 | Seerah | ohhhh |
| 18:49.13 | Seerah | that stuff |
| 18:49.49 | Maldivia | had to go search the ui changes post, I just remembered I saw something about actual pixel size :) |
| 18:49.56 | Nimhfree | 121820 is the spell that was cast for mount 455 |
| 18:50.04 | Seerah | but that may not mean your UI is pixel-perfect |
| 18:50.10 | Semlar | Nimhfree: alright, thanks |
| 18:50.17 | Semlar | those are the same across languages, at least |
| 18:50.31 | Maldivia | Semlar: true -- I remembered wrong what it was :) |
| 18:50.36 | Nimhfree | they should be :-) |
| 18:52.10 | Semlar | Nimhfree: basically someone is trying to make it so you can drag and drop spells onto their custom action buttons, but there's no way to figure out what mount is on your cursor |
| 18:52.40 | Semlar | like, that number isn't something you can get from the mountjournal or the api at all |
| 18:53.07 | Maldivia | Semlar: also the ClassInfo / InfoByID -- remeber that previously there were gaps in the ID-range of class Id, like Death Knight = 6, and Monk = 10 |
| 18:53.32 | Maldivia | (druid = 11, which has been there from day one) |
| 18:54.28 | Nimhfree | so there is no mapping between the 455 in the cursor and the spell 121820 in any of Blizzard public API? and I assume there is no DRAG/DROP evnet that maps it either? |
| 18:54.46 | Semlar | yeah, as far as i can tell you can't do anything with the number in game |
| 18:55.17 | Semlar | i just exported a list mapping those numbers to their spell IDs |
| 18:55.58 | Simca_ | Mount.db2 |
| 18:57.23 | Simca_ | I need to look into that API anyway; Blizzard gave us 'all' mounts, it seems |
| 18:57.31 | Jamash | Nimhfree: GetCompanionInfo("MOUNT" or "CRITTER", index) |
| 18:57.34 | Simca_ | even ones that don't exist on Live and aren't in the journal |
| 18:57.48 | Semlar | nah, GetCompanionInfo doesn't use that number |
| 18:57.52 | Simca_ | pretty sure everything with the word Companion in it is gone |
| 18:57.55 | Simca_ | or should be |
| 18:58.00 | Simca_ | it's extremely out of date |
| 18:58.04 | Semlar | yeah you shouldn't use that function at all |
| 18:58.18 | Jamash | why not? it works |
| 18:58.25 | Semlar | it sort of works for mounts |
| 18:58.28 | Simca_ | it's deprecated |
| 18:58.30 | Semlar | definitely not something you want to use for pets |
| 18:59.43 | Semlar | i take that back, it doesn't work at all on the beta |
| 18:59.56 | Nimhfree | fails to work on beta |
| 19:00.05 | Jamash | well, that sucks |
| 19:00.10 | Simca_ | I'm pretty sure adding C_MountJournal functions was to remove GetCompanionInfo |
| 19:00.20 | Simca_ | Jamash: there are far better choices than that. |
| 19:00.23 | Jamash | what's with all the C_ anyway |
| 19:00.33 | Simca_ | C_PetJournal functions are way better for pet info |
| 19:00.37 | Semlar | just to organize things i guess |
| 19:00.39 | Simca_ | yeah |
| 19:01.04 | Simca_ | probably to make it easy to localize large groups of lua functions actually |
| 19:01.52 | Simca_ | no need for localizing a lot of functions or the whole global table for a pet addon, can just do _G["PetJournal"] = _G["PetJournal"] |
| 19:03.10 | Seerah | If I recall correctly, C_ tables are defined C-side |
| 19:03.29 | Simca_ | so is most of the API though |
| 19:04.02 | Seerah | they're not in the client. They're accessible, but they're not defined in the UI files in the client. |
| 19:04.05 | Nimhfree | so I am in my garrison and the return from GetZoneText() is constant, but the return from GetMinimapZoneText() depends on garrison level (rank). However, I cannot seem to get that text in a manner other than being in the garrison and asking for GetMinimapZoneText(). Anyone have a suggestion how to get it? It is not in the GlobalStrings.lua file |
| 19:04.52 | Simca_ | Seerah: yeah, but all non-FrameXML functions aren't defined in the UI files either. FrameXML functions (defined in UI files) make up a small % of overall functions, maybe 10% |
| 19:05.39 | Semlar | Nimhfree: the text on your minimap is the name of the area you're in and there's no way to get that outside of being there |
| 19:05.43 | Simca_ | C_Timer.NewTicker and C_Timer.NewTimer are actually defined in FrameXML, as well |
| 19:06.31 | Seerah | But the C_Timer table is not, correct? |
| 19:06.39 | Simca_ | no |
| 19:06.48 | Semlar | although i've never seen an area name that could modify itself before |
| 19:06.56 | nevcairiel | Well they are convenience functions around the C timer API which they put in the same namespace |
| 19:07.21 | nevcairiel | Makes sense kinda |
| 19:07.46 | Jamash | so there's no mountjournal equivalent to C_PetJournal? |
| 19:07.53 | Simca_ | yeah, the only real purpose of those tables would be organization and ease of localizing, and neither of those is unique to C-based functions, so no harm in including it |
| 19:07.58 | Simca_ | Jamash: yes, there is in WoD |
| 19:08.01 | Jamash | ah |
| 19:08.07 | Jamash | well, give me a beta invite then |
| 19:08.29 | Semlar | Nimhfree: they appear to in AreaTable.dbc in the format of "$n's Fort" |
| 19:08.42 | Simca_ | Jamash: none of them are documented though, I guess i'll figure them out and make some pages |
| 19:10.17 | Semlar | all the mountjournal stuff is in here https://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/blob/beta/AddOns/Blizzard_PetJournal/Blizzard_PetJournal.lua |
| 19:10.29 | Nimhfree | semlar: is there any way to get that information in game? |
| 19:10.37 | Semlar | no |
| 19:11.02 | Nimhfree | that is annoying. I did not want to have to localize Fort, Bastion, etc. in my addon |
| 19:11.35 | Semlar | i wish you could get the area name from its area ID |
| 19:11.47 | Semlar | it would certainly simplify things |
| 19:11.50 | Simca_ | heh that's funny Semlar, that code is broken |
| 19:12.08 | Simca_ | line 1762/1763 references an undeclared variable as an argument on accident |
| 19:12.21 | Semlar | oops |
| 19:16.16 | Nimhfree | semlar: i map all the names from their map ids. before WoD i forced the map to each id and captured the name. in WoD GetMapContinents() and GetMapZones() now have the id and name interspersed |
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| 19:16.43 | Semlar | just so you know you can get the name of a map without switching to it |
| 19:17.13 | Semlar | there's a GetMapNameByID function that takes its areaID |
| 19:17.58 | Semlar | might not work for dungeon levels |
| 19:19.22 | Semlar | the map functions in WoD are a lot better for that though |
| 19:23.18 | foxlit | Industrial: save as .PNG and use http://townlong-yak.com/tga/ |
| 19:23.19 | Semlar | Nimhfree: http://i.imgur.com/heZwCVg.gif |
| 19:24.43 | Semlar | there's no api to get the text from this, though |
| 19:25.16 | Nimhfree | semlar: thanks, but I do not understand how I can use that unless I get one of those files for each locale and rip out the text for Horde and ALliance and set up my own localization anyway. |
| 19:25.29 | Nimhfree | how do you get those contents to show up? |
| 19:25.38 | Semlar | the text might be in the interface somewhere for garrisons |
| 19:25.54 | Semlar | or maybe even a spell name |
| 19:26.28 | Nimhfree | it seems we might be able to have level 4 garrisons some day |
| 19:27.03 | foxlit | lootable Frostmourne, too! |
| 19:28.28 | Semlar | are you trying to match against the minimap text to determine something |
| 19:28.39 | Semlar | there might be alternatives |
| 19:30.05 | Nimhfree | No, I am trying to present the required garrison level in a localized human readable form as a prerequisite for quests in the Wholly addon |
| 19:31.07 | Nimhfree | I will probably default to Garrison - [level] where level is an integer if I do not have a way to easily get localized level names for each garrison |
| 19:31.37 | Simca_ | just look through Game Constants |
| 19:31.42 | Simca_ | I'm sure all that shit is localized there |
| 19:31.47 | foxlit | levels make more sense, anyway |
| 19:31.57 | foxlit | âwtf is a Stronghold?â |
| 19:32.22 | Simca_ | you can at least localize the word Garrison with that |
| 19:33.52 | Nimhfree | I tried. the pattern was not there in GlobalStrings.lua at least. and yes, foxlit, it might be easier for people to understand the level number |
| 19:36.02 | Industrial | foxlit: ty |
| 19:43.28 | Semlar | Industrial: http://wowpedia.org/UI_Scale |
| 19:44.12 | Semlar | basically set the ui scale to 768/GetScreenHeight() but it may not always work |
| 19:47.44 | Neffi | I believe if you disable UI scale entirely, it chooses the appropriate scale such that it should be pixel-accurate |
| 19:47.59 | Neffi | "perfect" isn't the right word, because it's still not perfect and never will be |
| 19:48.17 | Neffi | Industrial: ^ |
| 19:49.05 | Neffi | That page may very well be outdated, Semlar, and may require additional testing |
| 19:49.40 | Semlar | well, you can get pixel perfect textures, i just don't know if you can do it from setting the ui scale |
| 19:49.50 | Neffi | I can't remember exactly when, but when I came back during one of the xpacs, I noticed that odd behavior had disappeared with UI scale disabled and the solution you just mentioned was no longer necessary. Several other people on UI forums noted the same thing |
| 19:50.27 | Neffi | It's been a go-to recommendation since to disable UI scale, rather than using the solution you mentioned |
| 19:50.32 | nevcairiel | Disabling scaling uses pixel perfect scaling by default now |
| 19:51.11 | nevcairiel | But still caps at 0.63 something, so you're screwed at high resolutions |
| 19:51.41 | nevcairiel | 0.64 it was |
| 19:52.03 | Neffi | which is, what, 1920x1200? |
| 19:52.22 | nevcairiel | Yeah that's the highest that still works |
| 19:52.41 | Neffi | 768/1200 = .64. yup |
| 19:53.22 | Neffi | Beyond that you can probably 'fix' it with a UIParent:SetScale() |
| 19:53.47 | nevcairiel | You can, but it doesn't work properly for everything |
| 19:54.01 | Semlar | sets neffiscale |
| 19:54.07 | Neffi | feels small |
| 19:54.15 | nevcairiel | And most higher res screens also have higher DPI so everything just gets totally small |
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| 20:24.56 | Industrial | okay |
| 20:27.46 | Siku | Is there a list of all the LE_ tables on wowpedia? |
| 20:42.07 | nevcairiel | Why would you need all? Don't you usually just use those for the task at hand? :) |
| 20:47.14 | Industrial | My epic photosoup skillz *cough* http://i.imgur.com/jc4tmF3.png |
| 20:48.23 | Semlar | i'm assuming this is the actual graphic you're going to use for your interface |
| 20:57.43 | Industrial | yes |
| 21:00.00 | Industrial | I made sure everything is a power of 2 so I can maybe use it in the game as I see it in PS :) |
| 21:00.14 | Industrial | if I get it working then I'll do a whole UI. |
| 21:02.11 | Semlar | you only need to make the physical width and height of the texture a power of 2 because the game won't load them otherwise |
| 21:02.54 | Semlar | if you made a texture 1280px wide the game would ignore it |
| 21:04.18 | Semlar | it would need to be 1024 or 2048px |
| 21:04.58 | Semlar | which are 2^10 and 2^11 |
| 21:08.21 | Semlar | if you wanted to make a 1920x1080 image, your texture would have to be 2048x2048 with a bunch of transparent padding |
| 21:08.56 | nevcairiel | Such a outdated requirement |
| 21:09.19 | Semlar | but you also probably don't want to make your entire interface one image |
| 21:09.21 | foxlit | the webpage handles all that for you, so just ignore it and set texcoords as it tells you |
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| 21:24.30 | kd3 | whoops. this copy never set it's hearth... gotta love spawning on timeless isle after a worldserver crash |
| 21:26.51 | Semlar | unstuck! |
| 21:28.06 | Neffi | Semlar: I heard that the requirement on dimensions for textures is being lifted in 6.0. True? |
| 21:28.19 | Semlar | hell if i know |
| 21:28.35 | Neffi | Well I'm not in beta so I cant test |
| 21:28.46 | Semlar | well why not |
| 21:29.02 | Neffi | because my account wasn't active until like a week ago |
| 21:29.48 | Neffi | Not sure if I even can get a beta invite based on that. Also the only addons I have up are trivial ones. |
| 21:30.02 | Neffi | like Six and Seven ;) |
| 21:32.42 | jleclanche | Ackis: hey is there a pre-WoD toybox tracker addon? |
| 21:33.15 | Neffi | how do I even reach Badlands now since Cata fucked the world? |
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| 21:35.16 | Semlar | what the hell did they do to the blasted lands map |
| 21:35.43 | kd3 | neffi, if you're leveling, you'll take a rocket ride there from epl |
| 21:35.50 | kd3 | blasted lands is phased for level 90s |
| 21:36.05 | Semlar | the overlays are broken |
| 21:36.16 | Neffi | leveling |
| 21:36.36 | Neffi | do I need to do anything special to be able to take said rocket ride? like complete quests? |
| 21:36.42 | Semlar | they appear to have just painted the overlays onto the map background.. |
| 21:37.01 | kd3 | it opens up at... 44? 45? |
| 21:37.09 | kd3 | there's no prereq iirc |
| 21:37.16 | Neffi | What is it phased for? Anything special going on there? |
| 21:37.21 | foxlit | nothing. |
| 21:37.22 | Neffi | Or was this the solution to stop portal camping? |
| 21:37.25 | foxlit | Itâs just a goblin at lightâs hope. |
| 21:37.27 | kd3 | blasted lands? part of the warlords intro |
| 21:37.42 | Neffi | thanks kd3, foxlit |
| 21:37.45 | kd3 | http://wowpedia.org/Warlords_of_Draenor_intro_experience#Iron_Horde_attack |
| 21:38.28 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/m8VzJDH.jpg :| |
| 21:38.50 | kd3 | it wasn't that bad last build |
| 21:38.55 | Neffi | wtf semlar |
| 21:38.56 | Semlar | it's from my addon |
| 21:39.14 | Semlar | it HAS overlays listed in the dbc file |
| 21:39.20 | Semlar | but the textures don't exist |
| 21:45.12 | Semlar | i guess i'll just comment that out |
| 21:48.03 | Semlar | god there are a lot of misnamed vignettes |
| 21:49.32 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/NF61wMf.jpg |
| 21:59.55 | kd3 | yep |
| 22:00.14 | kd3 | I intend to make my mapping a public resource once I get more of them done |
| 22:13.50 | Industrial | http://i.imgur.com/Ento7Rd.png |
| 22:15.30 | Siku | Is there a beta guild this time around? |
| 22:17.04 | Gethe | yeah it's on leveling server 2. Sharparam made it but we still need sigs |
| 22:18.53 | foxlit | Industrial: including damage meters as a permanent UI fixture seems like a waste. |
| 22:23.31 | kd3 | pop-up thunderstorms day 3, go go. unplugging everything early this time, don't need a heart attack like I had on thursday... |
| 22:36.22 | Neffi | Recommendation for where to put a focus frame on my UI? https://cdn.mediacru.sh/eVDW3H38aha6.png left is player, right is target, group to the right is arena/flag-carrier, bottomright is part |
| 22:36.24 | Neffi | party* |
| 22:39.51 | Neffi | I'm trying to keep center screen clear, but still have all of the import info centered around it in some way. I feel like there's no good place to stick a focus frame where it wouldnt stick out or be in my way |
| 22:40.22 | Industrial | foxlit: I agree. I was thinking maybe to use that space for different things depending on the circumstances. This would be in party or raid setting. party and raid frames would also overlap and be exclusive (either) |
| 22:41.03 | Industrial | I also love the idea of making things fold in/out to the edge of the screen .. |
| 22:41.21 | Industrial | with toggle buttons |
| 22:41.50 | Neffi | Make the edge the toggle button. See: slidebar. When it slides off screen, the edge still shows to act as a handle |
| 22:42.19 | Neffi | But I disagree with foxlit. if you pve heavily, it's not a waste to give your DPS meter a permanent place, because it's going to be shown often |
| 22:42.38 | foxlit | whatever for? live epeen stroking? |
| 22:42.54 | Neffi | foxlit: isn't that the point of having a dps meter in the first place? :P |
| 22:43.28 | Neffi | It all depends. If his reaction was to keep it showing, maybe he's used to looking at it regularly enough that it ought to stay visible |
| 22:45.15 | foxlit | Neffi: to me, the purpose of damage meters is to figure out what the heck happened after a wipe. |
| 22:47.11 | Industrial | I'm usually not on the top so being enh shammy it's just a game of keeping up with my usual dps numbers with that gear/setup |
| 22:47.22 | Industrial | try and reach top :P |
| 22:54.35 | foxlit | http://go-hero.net/i/sr.jpg << I feel like this should be a thing. |
| 22:55.11 | foxlit | (using multiple heatlh bars for boss mobs, that is. As it is, things have too much health, so your attacks hit for approximately 0.nothing%) |
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| 22:57.57 | foxlit | not that it would solve much with 15 other DPS. Maybe several 1/x15th shards that are *yours*, and one averaging how everyone else is doing? |
| 22:58.23 | Industrial | Is it possible to produce a fade-off effect only for player hits? probably not since the statusbar keeps shrinking |
| 22:58.59 | Industrial | actually you could maybe highlight your hits on the bar? like a chart thing? |
| 22:59.26 | Industrial | I guess its too small :P |
| 22:59.28 | foxlit | what Iâm kind of rambling on about above is that the bar is nowhere near wide enough for you to see your hits as anything but 0 pixels. |
| 22:59.40 | Industrial | yeah |
| 23:00.53 | kd3 | blah. think it's time to invest in a higher-end surge suppressor/UPS |
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| 23:09.22 | Neffi | can I convince somebody from mmoc to mark my new account to post link/pictures? I'm trying to post in the UI forum for feedback |
| 23:10.37 | Industrial | Leveling by PVP: Rogue or Druid? |
| 23:12.59 | Neffi | Feral is probably slightly better than rogue. A healing druid will be more appreciated and get by. It's a close enough call that it doesnt matter much |
| 23:13.30 | Neffi | IMO, look at the tentative changes for each in WoD and see which looks more appealing. (I'm leveling a new druid myself because I think feral looks better in WoD than rogue) |
| 23:15.04 | Gethe | make the post and i can reply with your links |
| 23:15.09 | Gethe | Neffi: |
| 23:15.17 | Neffi | Gethe: alright, cool. gimme a minute |
| 23:17.41 | Neffi | Gethe: post http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/643236-Post-Your-UI?p=28766883#post28766883 image https://cdn.mediacru.sh/eVDW3H38aha6.png |
| 23:17.47 | Neffi | and thanks! :) |
| 23:18.31 | Gethe | no image link :( |
| 23:18.47 | Gethe | oh ok |
| 23:19.49 | Neffi | I see it. thanks again :D |
| 23:25.51 | Gethe | is there a thumbnail version of that? |
| 23:26.12 | Neffi | I was thinking the same thing. I dont know if mcrush does that. You could just put a link instead if you want |
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| 23:28.45 | Neffi | hmm. I think mcrush is python, no? jleclanche, you should add that feature ;) |
| 23:28.51 | jleclanche | yes it is |
| 23:29.03 | Neffi | I'm not good at python |
| 23:29.37 | jleclanche | Neffi: please file feature requests on https://github.com/mediacrush/mediacrush/issues/new |
| 23:29.59 | Neffi | Fair enough |
| 23:34.46 | Neffi | Bah! "patch plz" basically |
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| 23:36.05 | Neffi | Guess I'll see if I can hack up a patch later without really knowing Python |
| 23:36.54 | Gethe | Neffi: reuploaded here for thumnail http://imgur.com/Y7dAgxK |
| 23:37.22 | Neffi | I didn't use imgur because the compression is bad, but that's fine |
| 23:37.39 | Neffi | Oh, i guess you have pro? nice. thanks |
| 23:37.49 | Gethe | do i? |
| 23:38.05 | Neffi | I dunno. It compressed mine a bunch |
| 23:38.24 | Gethe | weird |
| 23:43.57 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:45.21 | Neffi | "When thrown than your shoulders very easily, the duffel is inherited all." All hail the duffel. It it inherited all |
| 23:45.29 | Neffi | All our objects are belong to the mighty duffel |
| 23:47.38 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: man trump is really kicking ass |
| 23:47.39 | jleclanche | rank 2 now |
| 23:47.56 | jleclanche | that is, legend rank 2 |
