| 00:00.21 | Semlar | you can't click a button in response to a mouseover event on a frame can you |
| 00:00.53 | foxlit | well, you can always click a button. |
| 00:00.56 | Neffi_ | secure drivers have an onenter/onleave clause (named something else?) |
| 00:00.59 | Neffi_ | but probably not |
| 00:01.12 | foxlit | it's just that you'll neither have a hardware event nor a secure execution path. |
| 00:01.13 | Semlar | yeah but secure drivers can't click a button |
| 00:01.22 | Neffi_ | then no |
| 00:01.36 | Semlar | and yeah i meant securely |
| 00:06.59 | Tuller | well, is the thing you're trying to click secure? |
| 00:07.14 | Semlar | yep |
| 00:07.36 | Neffi_ | semlar's always trying to break things and make blizz mad at addon devs |
| 00:07.54 | Semlar | i just wanted to toggle the damn nameplates in combat, is that too much to ask |
| 00:09.03 | Neffi_ | PRD: for {each nameplate} :SetAlpha(0) PRE: for {each nameplate} :SetAlpha(1) |
| 00:09.20 | Neffi_ | oh wait, that doesn't really work well, since the client sets alphas on them often |
| 00:09.27 | Semlar | i can set the damn alphas without secure code |
| 00:09.32 | foxlit | there's no reason setcvar shouldn't be accessible via SABT. |
| 00:09.50 | Neffi_ | foxlit: I think they just made it impossible to set that cvar in combat |
| 00:10.05 | Semlar | basically i wanted lazyplates to only show enemies, but still support showing friendly nameplates above people's heads |
| 00:10.33 | foxlit | Neffi_: no, that wouldn't work. The toggle nameplates binding has to work somehow. |
| 00:10.51 | Semlar | so i wanted it to disable friendly nameplates when you moused over the frame and reenable them when you moused off |
| 00:11.44 | Semlar | unfortunately there isn't any way to tell the difference between the nameplate types from the restricted environment |
| 00:13.57 | Neffi_ | so cute http://www.anandtech.com/show/8303 |
| 00:15.29 | foxlit | can you not just move the nameplate somewhere else when OnEnter triggers? |
| 00:15.32 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: he is right, though http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/10494573844#1 |
| 00:15.46 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: that's missing the point. |
| 00:15.54 | Gnarfoz | (assuming you meant a cvar on that list, Neffi_ - you just said "the cvar") |
| 00:16.00 | Semlar | i can move the nameplates but i can't tell which ones are friendly |
| 00:16.05 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: how? |
| 00:16.13 | foxlit | The point was, given that change, SetCVar should be made accessible via a SABT action. |
| 00:16.30 | foxlit | The block isn't on changing those cvars in combat -- it's on changing those cvars in combat from an insecure execution path. |
| 00:16.31 | Gnarfoz | uh |
| 00:16.44 | Gnarfoz | doesn't say so in the post |
| 00:17.09 | foxlit | which is why "no, that wouldn't work. The toggle nameplates binding has to work somehow." is relevant. |
| 00:17.18 | Gnarfoz | it's not |
| 00:17.24 | Gnarfoz | Blizz can do whatever the hell they want |
| 00:17.36 | foxlit | can they summon me a sandwich? |
| 00:17.46 | Gnarfoz | assuming because theirs still works, we must somehow still be able to, too, is wrong |
| 00:17.46 | Semlar | they probably could |
| 00:17.51 | foxlit | travel faster than light? |
| 00:17.54 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: they have mages for that! |
| 00:18.27 | Gnarfoz | although you of course might be right, and the post imprecise. :D |
| 00:18.46 | Semlar | we can /click the nameplate checkboxes in the interface panel, and we can bind a key to toggle them, but we can't set the cvars directly even from a secure action which is unfortunate |
| 00:19.13 | Semlar | we SHOULD have been able to set the cvars directly from a secure action after this change they made |
| 00:19.15 | Neffi_ | <3 the WoW API |
| 00:19.22 | Semlar | but that would have been more effort for them |
| 00:19.31 | foxlit | (not that that would help you, since you don't have a secure action) |
| 00:19.38 | Semlar | i do have a secure action |
| 00:19.52 | Semlar | i have a mouseenter frame |
| 00:19.54 | foxlit | language, really. |
| 00:20.00 | foxlit | an onenter handler is not an action :) |
| 00:20.16 | Semlar | well i can do anything else that the restricted environment supports from it |
| 00:20.32 | foxlit | which is why the SABT action wouldn't help you, since you wouldn't be able to run it from RE alone. |
| 00:20.49 | foxlit | Anyhow, OnEnter gives you a handle to the current mouseover nameplate |
| 00:21.00 | foxlit | [@mouseover,help] tells you if it's friendly. |
| 00:21.32 | Semlar | that's only any good if the person mouses over all of the plates in the list though |
| 00:21.34 | foxlit | and you're kind of screwed for OnLeave. |
| 00:22.26 | Semlar | actually i handled onleave by surrounding the frame with onenter templates |
| 00:22.31 | Semlar | >_> |
| 00:22.51 | foxlit | I'm only suggesting you move the nameplate that's currently being moused over elsewhere if it's friendly |
| 00:23.09 | foxlit | the net effect should be that you simply can't click friendly nameplates, since they would disappear when you approach. |
| 00:23.36 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/wuqXTCu.jpg |
| 00:24.03 | Neffi_ | i can see your butt |
| 00:24.41 | foxlit | well then, problem solved. |
| 00:26.15 | Semlar | i could get rid of friendly nameplates one at a time as they are moused over but that wouldn't really make it so you could just move the mouse over to the list of enemies and click one and have it work as expected |
| 00:26.30 | foxlit | I think I misunderstood what you wanted based on that screenshot. |
| 00:27.04 | Semlar | okay, i only want enemy nameplates in my frame |
| 00:27.20 | Semlar | but i also want to have friendly nameplates visible |
| 00:27.23 | Neffi_ | foxlit: he's moving the nameplates into a grid-like fashion |
| 00:27.28 | foxlit | I figured "I want to show friendly nameplates to position stuff over people's heads, but I don't want them to expand the hitbox"; while the screenshot seems to suggest "I want a grid of all hostile nameplates, and show friendly nameplates only when the mouse is not over that frame" |
| 00:28.02 | Semlar | the second part is what i was going for |
| 00:28.12 | Semlar | which i actually was able to do before this CVar change |
| 00:28.20 | kd3 | Heh. So this is how we get gold quest rewards from objects: "Rifling through the cushions, you find a few spare coins, which you pocket." |
| 00:28.32 | Semlar | by predicting where the enemy nameplates would be in the list once the friendly ones were hidden |
| 00:28.46 | Semlar | since i could do all the visual parts insecurely |
| 00:28.57 | Semlar | and then just move the frames once you moused over it |
| 00:29.14 | foxlit | so basically, you need setcvar in RE. |
| 00:29.31 | Semlar | yeah, if i could use setcvar from the RE i could pull it off again |
| 00:29.57 | Semlar | just temporarily disable friendly plates while the mouse is over the frame and reenable them when you move off |
| 00:30.15 | Semlar | as it is right now, you'd have to only show enemy nameplates if you only wanted enemies in your list |
| 00:30.41 | Semlar | and it's not super useful to have a bunch of raid members scattered around the list |
| 00:32.05 | Semlar | i could fade them out and make it so you couldn't click on them, but you'd end up with a bunch of gaps between the other unit frames |
| 00:33.19 | Semlar | which probably wouldn't be /that/ bad, but it's not great |
| 00:34.59 | Semlar | i don't like this grid layout anyway because i can't display debuffs very well |
| 00:35.34 | Neffi_ | You could make them as a list extending down the side of the screen, with buffs next to them |
| 00:35.49 | Neffi_ | so each nameplate would turn into a thin heealthbar |
| 00:35.54 | Semlar | like this http://i.imgur.com/nTQiaOA.jpg |
| 00:36.09 | Neffi_ | that works |
| 00:36.34 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:38.04 | Semlar | just imagine, a 25 man raid with friendly nameplates enabled |
| 00:38.33 | Semlar | granted at that point you might as well just turn friendly nameplates off |
| 00:38.35 | foxlit | force a click. |
| 00:39.16 | Semlar | i could add a button and that would let you toggle the nameplates for sure but i think that would be more trouble than it's worth |
| 00:39.20 | Neffi_ | tell people to stop enabling friendly nameplates ;) |
| 00:40.01 | Semlar | i guess it could have a few buttons along the top that let you switch nameplate views on the fly |
| 00:41.16 | Semlar | i HAD attempted to make a scrollable list, and while i'm pretty sure it's possible i did a terrible job of it |
| 00:41.53 | Semlar | you have to like keep track of the offset while nameplates show and hide themselves and it was kind of a mess |
| 00:42.38 | Semlar | i was going to make it look like the eve online overview |
| 00:42.39 | VIad | what are you making now Semlar? |
| 00:42.45 | VIad | nameplate magic? |
| 00:42.47 | Semlar | nothin |
| 00:42.55 | Semlar | just complaining |
| 00:42.59 | VIad | :D |
| 00:43.19 | VIad | got any efficient ways to map out what nameplate is what unit? ;D |
| 00:43.29 | Semlar | there's no such thing |
| 00:43.53 | Semlar | actually there are only 2 ways to positively identify what unit a nameplate belongs to |
| 00:44.10 | Semlar | if you're targeting it, that nameplate's alpha stays at 1 and the rest fade |
| 00:44.41 | Semlar | and if you mouseover the nameplate frame itself it shows a highlight texture you can use to id it |
| 00:45.30 | Semlar | my addon does a ton of crap monitoring the combat log and making guesses based on the unit's current health but that's not something you can rely on |
| 00:46.17 | VIad | no but |
| 00:46.22 | Semlar | no buts |
| 00:46.24 | VIad | if you target and mouseover plates |
| 00:46.31 | VIad | you can use that to note what their GUID is |
| 00:46.45 | VIad | and if the plate hides it is being reused and needs to be identified again |
| 00:46.55 | Semlar | yeah i pretty much just said that |
| 00:46.58 | VIad | jupp |
| 00:47.19 | VIad | to a degree it's possible, but messy, adding buffs to them needs you to track buff durations, dispells, e.g. |
| 00:47.21 | VIad | ugh |
| 00:47.56 | Neffi_ | Do nameplates denote when the unit is from another server? |
| 00:48.02 | Semlar | yes |
| 00:48.14 | Semlar | it puts an asterisk after their name |
| 00:48.31 | Neffi_ | Then you can positively know which nameplate belongs to an enemy player from the same server, if the user enables class colored nameplate healthbars |
| 00:48.32 | Semlar | there's no way to forcibly make an already existing frame explicitly secure is there |
| 00:48.52 | foxlit | protected, not secure. |
| 00:49.01 | VIad | Neffi_: better to just make sure you've targeted or mouseovered a unit to detect the units guid then do the rest of the math to find out server info |
| 00:49.11 | foxlit | and no. |
| 00:49.15 | Semlar | since a secure frame can't anchor itself to an unsecure one |
| 00:49.25 | Semlar | there's no way around that |
| 00:50.05 | foxlit | you seem confused. |
| 00:50.17 | Semlar | probably |
| 00:50.23 | foxlit | you can anchor protected frames to unprotected frames, making the latter implicitly protected. |
| 00:50.33 | Semlar | in combat? |
| 00:50.36 | foxlit | you can't make a non-explicitly protected frame explicitly protected. |
| 00:51.08 | Semlar | as far as i can tell my secure frame can't anchor itself to its child, which isn't "explicitly" secure |
| 00:51.51 | Semlar | the second return from IsProtected |
| 00:52.03 | foxlit | I'm reasonably sure that behavior also works in combat. The problem is that you need a secure path to SetPoint, which you probably can't get. |
| 00:52.50 | Semlar | basically the nameplate parent frame is secure, and it starts out with all points set to its child frame, which is NOT explicitly secure, but the child is the one that's actually floating above the unit's head |
| 00:53.13 | Semlar | so i can clear the parent's points and move it |
| 00:53.19 | Semlar | but i can't move it back to the child |
| 00:53.44 | VIad | e |
| 00:55.52 | foxlit | So RE's SetPoint stops you from using a non-protected frame as a relative frame. |
| 00:55.54 | Semlar | so once i move the parent frame, which is the actual clickable portion, i can't put it back over the unit's head if i wanted to |
| 00:56.27 | Semlar | well, the frame itself isn't clickable but the clickable part of the worldframe follows it |
| 00:56.54 | Semlar | which is how this works in the first place |
| 00:59.38 | Semlar | i don't even know what some of these cvars do |
| 00:59.41 | Semlar | "maxAlgoplates"? |
| 01:00.04 | Semlar | "nameplateOverlapH" and "nameplateOverlapV" i've never seen before |
| 01:00.41 | foxlit | s/non-protected/non-explicitly-protected/ |
| 01:02.42 | Semlar | explicitly protects neffi |
| 01:02.46 | foxlit | maybe a tiny bit paranoid, but probably correct; I'm missing an insecure way to implicitly protect a frame, but that just might exist. |
| 01:03.07 | Neffi_ | Semlar: dont do that |
| 01:03.16 | Semlar | now you may only perform secure actions |
| 01:03.21 | Semlar | OR ELSE |
| 01:03.27 | Neffi_ | or else what? |
| 01:03.37 | Semlar | OR ELSE |
| 01:03.43 | Neffi_ | ok |
| 01:03.48 | foxlit | you can probably fix this outside combat by introducing another explicitly protected frame between your parent and child. |
| 01:04.22 | Semlar | do you think i can attach a secure frame to the child |
| 01:04.25 | Semlar | out of combat |
| 01:04.29 | Semlar | and then anchor to that |
| 01:04.34 | foxlit | yes. |
| 01:04.49 | Semlar | most nameplates are created out of combat anyway |
| 01:05.12 | Semlar | i could try that |
| 01:05.43 | Semlar | that would also let me query the position of the nameplate |
| 01:06.14 | Semlar | if i wanted to sort them by their position on screen |
| 01:07.26 | Semlar | if i were any good at sorting anything |
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| 01:13.22 | Semlar | apparently they made it so players under level 20 do not show up in /who queries, probably to stop guild invite spam |
| 01:37.01 | jleclanche | Looking up stuff from my backlog on wikipedia... 'I wonder if this series is worth checking out' |
| 01:37.05 | jleclanche | "A man with learning difficulties blows himself up while trying to rob a bank." |
| 01:37.06 | jleclanche | SOLD |
| 01:40.44 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:41.38 | Neffi_ | jleclanche: what? |
| 01:41.51 | jleclanche | Neffi_: wallander if you're wondering |
| 01:55.54 | jleclanche | anyone with flash can test a theory for me? |
| 01:56.35 | Semlar | depends on the theory |
| 01:56.40 | jleclanche | Semlar: http://www.twitch.tv/trumpsc is this working for you |
| 01:57.01 | Semlar | the video is offline |
| 01:57.50 | jleclanche | interesting |
| 02:06.13 | Neffi_ | Futurama was so good. I still cant understand why it got cancelled like a billion times |
| 02:06.36 | Dagmar | Did you just _only_ ever pirate it or something? |
| 02:06.46 | Dagmar | What _network_ was it on? |
| 02:06.57 | Neffi_ | First, Fox. Then it bounced around |
| 02:07.03 | Semlar | cartoon network |
| 02:07.08 | Semlar | comedy central |
| 02:07.13 | Neffi_ | I think Comedy Central had it for a while. Maybe TBS. Maybe Adult Swim. I dunno exactly |
| 02:07.34 | Dagmar | They even made a big deal about Fox being idiots when they came back with that movie |
| 02:07.52 | Neffi_ | Then it got cancelled again |
| 02:08.01 | Dagmar | Fox is a network with a history of ignoring reality. |
| 02:08.09 | Neffi_ | Like every time it came back, I didnt even hear about it until it was already cancelled again |
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| 02:35.00 | kd3 | ooh, cosmowright's finally got his any% 18:10 OoT run commentated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq6pGJbd6Iw&feature=youtu.be&a |
| 02:41.11 | VIad | kd3: why japanese game? |
| 02:41.17 | VIad | chinese* |
| 02:41.31 | VIad | is it because its less text scrolling? ;P |
| 02:41.39 | kd3 | yes |
| 02:41.46 | VIad | a lot of people do this trick |
| 02:42.05 | VIad | on many other speedruns with these type of text bubble games |
| 02:42.12 | kd3 | here's more info and some links on why he does what he does: http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/2b737f/cosmowright_breaks_legend_of_zelda_ocarina_of/ |
| 02:46.07 | VIad | kd3: it's impressive but damn so much time to figure all this shit out and all :P |
| 02:46.33 | VIad | but I guess newer games arent suseptible to as much bugs as older once, doubt we'll be seeing too new stuff being completed like that :p |
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| 03:39.46 | Thunder_Child | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:39.48 | Thunder_Child | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:39.48 | Thunder_Child | I wonder how steam is actually calculating the second line. |
| 03:42.00 | Thunder_Child | Also rather fond of " OS Install Date: Dec 31 1969" |
| 03:51.01 | Neffi_ | are you a wizard? |
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| 03:54.57 | Torhal | A wizard did it! |
| 03:55.13 | Torhal | Timelords Thunder_Child. |
| 03:57.21 | pompy | that has to be the most gruesome leg injury ever >< aaahh. lol |
| 03:58.26 | Seerah | this is amusing: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/13272407548?page=24#461 |
| 04:00.24 | pompy | Props to this Lore for bothering to type that up lol. |
| 04:00.55 | Thunder_Child | dodges Torhal in time. |
| 04:01.23 | Thunder_Child | ok, that was more pun that I wanted. |
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| 04:05.20 | kd3 | wow, kd3. it's time for bed. "though this version won't won-shot at-level players" |
| 04:06.30 | pompy | :O |
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| 04:31.20 | Mr_Rabies | ah so there goes my idea that realm size was more of an "average over a month or x period" thing and is actually more realtime than that |
| 04:31.34 | Mr_Rabies | my realm was Low the other day all of a sudden but is back up to medium |
| 04:35.00 | Mr_Rabies | welp i murdered the grammar there |
| 04:35.16 | Mr_Rabies | ah so there goes my idea that realm size was more of an "average over a month or x period" thing, it's actually more realtime than that |
| 04:35.21 | Thunder_Child | MURDERER! |
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| 08:42.03 | karl_w_w | jleclanche, ew, ice barrier |
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| 08:54.25 | karl_w_w | http://imgur.com/deLMGy4 lol |
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| 09:59.39 | Industrial | Hi. |
| 10:00.00 | Industrial | How does fishing skill affect your fishing? How does one point of it compare to one point less? |
| 10:03.10 | nevcairiel | It improves your chances to catch something useful instead of garbage |
| 10:04.52 | Industrial | k |
| 10:06.03 | Fisker | You're k |
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| 10:28.17 | Industrial | no u |
| 10:36.34 | Industrial | Meh, the Routes addon has been abandoned.. |
| 10:36.37 | Industrial | alternatives? |
| 10:38.22 | Industrial | Bloodhound2 |
| 11:05.44 | nevcairiel | Routes is so fundamental that it should still work |
| 11:14.11 | VIad | many addons get flagged abandoned automaticly on curse |
| 11:14.17 | VIad | kind of annoying, they aren't :P |
| 11:14.31 | VIad | should at least get an mail or something to confirm/deny the abandon status :P |
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| 13:20.41 | Simca_ | there won't ever be a proper alternative to it anyway |
| 13:20.50 | Simca_ | i mean the code for routes is ridiculous |
| 13:28.59 | nebula169 | implementing tsp in lua! it was pretty neat when it came out |
| 13:31.30 | Simca_ | tsp with custom definable ignore regions that you can draw on the world map and properly implemented coroutine support |
| 13:32.18 | Simca_ | you'd have to be insane to make that addon over again rather than just fix the current version |
| 13:57.52 | nevcairiel | The base code won't likely break. May just need some things adjusted for mapping to the zone maps |
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| 14:55.28 | Gnarfoz | does it even need fixing |
| 14:55.44 | Gnarfoz | he just said "abandoned", which is a status curse made up |
| 14:56.38 | karl_w_w | http://shop.maker.tv/collections/total-biscuit/products/premium-60-fps-tee not sure if great or just shiny |
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| 15:07.07 | foxlit | Can you figure out which bag slot your Hearthstone is in without iterating through every bag slot? |
| 15:08.14 | Neffi_ | I dont believe so |
| 15:08.33 | Neffi_ | There's no API to tell which slot an item is in, because any given item is probably in multiple slots |
| 15:09.15 | foxlit | hearthstone is unique; but I'd be happy with any valid (bag, slot) for non-unique items too. |
| 15:10.15 | Neffi_ | it's kind of trivial with iteration |
| 15:17.56 | foxlit | yes yes, but it wouldn't be pretty. |
| 15:18.34 | foxlit | the thing is, the client probably already has a Name -> bag/nil, slot map somewhere for UseItemByName |
| 15:20.28 | foxlit | unless that iterates too, of course. |
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| 15:22.31 | foxlit | (I kind of have a slight problem with /equip Item Name: I'll end up showing you the tooltip without the enchants/gems/reforging present in your inventory, because GetItemInfo maps to base item instead of the item that you do have.) |
| 15:23.25 | foxlit | probably even worse in 6.0, because of quality-altering enchants. |
| 15:34.28 | Neffi_ | Wouldn't be pretty? Define `local function GetBagSlotByID` and use it. It'll be no less pretty |
| 15:38.31 | foxlit | and use it several times per frame. |
| 15:39.10 | Neffi_ | that kinda sucks |
| 15:39.34 | Neffi_ | but it's not like you're costing anyone a whole fps for it |
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| 15:50.21 | p3lim | In the default UI, is there any pet at all that show the PetCastingBarFrame? |
| 15:50.46 | Neffi_ | foxlit: if it turns out to be a slow point (I doubt it) why not keep a map of slot<->itemid? |
| 15:51.21 | Neffi_ | p3lim: I don't use the default UI, but I would assume the Water Elemental definitely does, as it casts a whole lot |
| 15:51.35 | p3lim | Imp for sure doesn't |
| 15:52.11 | Neffi_ | Does the imp actually cast anything? I never really paid attention to that little guy |
| 15:52.22 | p3lim | It spams a fireball spell |
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| 15:52.25 | Neffi_ | Last time I played a warlock the imp's nickname was "mana battery" |
| 15:52.25 | p3lim | Which is all it does |
| 15:52.29 | p3lim | xD |
| 15:52.48 | Jamash | imps are great, they increase other minions' health by one per turn |
| 15:52.59 | p3lim | too much hearthstone |
| 15:53.03 | Neffi_ | ~lart Jamash |
| 15:53.03 | purl | slaps a compatible dib on Jamash's head |
| 15:53.08 | Jamash | p3lim: no such thing |
| 15:53.43 | p3lim | yeah the water elemental doesn't have a casting bar neither |
| 15:53.56 | p3lim | I'm starting to think it's only ever used for vehicles |
| 15:53.58 | Neffi_ | Very strange |
| 15:54.04 | Ycarene | I'm getting terrible framerates when entering combat, I tried /run SetCVar("raidFramesDisplayIncomingHeals",1) but it just gives me an error saying that the variable doesn't exist. |
| 15:54.06 | Neffi_ | Yeah, it's gotta be there for a reason |
| 15:54.14 | p3lim | I know it's shown for vehicles |
| 15:54.22 | p3lim | and I know in the past it was actually used for pets |
| 15:54.42 | p3lim | but these days the casting info for your pet is irrelevant, it always does it |
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| 15:55.14 | Ycarene | Or did they fix that bug? |
| 15:55.17 | p3lim | at least seems like it is irrelevant |
| 15:55.22 | Neffi_ | Well I'm not the only mage who tells my water elemental to stop casting because it's annoying |
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| 15:57.26 | p3lim | it's not even showing for the succubus' seduction channeling |
| 16:01.17 | foxlit | p3lim: have you tried reading the code? |
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| 16:01.46 | foxlit | because you know, "grep -r PetCastingBarFrame *" -> PetCastingBarFrame_OnLoad -> self.showCastbar = UnitIsPossessed("pet") |
| 16:01.47 | p3lim | foxlit: https://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/blob/518d3c396c4614a788b35c9d491cb8a073032511/FrameXML/PlayerFrame.lua#L773-L806 |
| 16:02.53 | p3lim | Oh I missed that file |
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| 16:07.44 | Jamash | yay, bugs |
| 16:08.09 | p3lim | Hm, if you used the toggleForVehicle attribute on a SecureAction|UnitButtonTemplate, wouldn't that cover possession aswell? |
| 16:08.32 | p3lim | Mind Control does not exist any more, so it's not too easy to test :p |
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| 16:09.33 | Jamash | what do you mean mind control doesn't exist? |
| 16:09.56 | foxlit | I'm pretty sure I have Mind Control in my deck. |
| 16:10.02 | p3lim | -.- |
| 16:10.09 | foxlit | high-fives Jamash. |
| 16:10.16 | p3lim | dang card games |
| 16:10.25 | foxlit | http://wowpedia.org/Dominate_Mind |
| 16:10.25 | Jamash | ha ha |
| 16:10.29 | Jamash | also, ^ |
| 16:10.49 | Jamash | level 15 priest talent |
| 16:11.07 | foxlit | (how you know a game is going to end well: you're against a warlock. who got the coin. and your starting hand is SW:D, SW:D, Mind Control.) |
| 16:11.07 | Jamash | which is why I was confused, 'cause my priest has that |
| 16:11.13 | p3lim | not on beta tho |
| 16:11.26 | Jamash | well I'm not in the beta, so I didn't know that |
| 16:11.40 | p3lim | I think it was one of the many pruned abilities |
| 16:12.10 | foxlit | but how will we do Raz now? |
| 16:12.41 | p3lim | wasn't there orbs to control him? |
| 16:12.53 | foxlit | even on 25? Amateurs. |
| 16:12.58 | Jamash | also that's really sad if true |
| 16:13.03 | Jamash | I <3 mind control |
| 16:13.04 | p3lim | for sure on 10, maybe not on 25 |
| 16:13.13 | Jamash | I don't actually like it, but the priest standing behind me does |
| 16:13.43 | Jamash | woop, movie sign |
| 16:13.44 | foxlit | we had priests that were horrible at adapting to things that weren't priest action bars. |
| 16:13.48 | Jamash | guardians of the galaxy! |
| 16:13.52 | foxlit | Teron, boo. |
| 16:16.19 | p3lim | if mind control is gone that means the achievement "Who Needs Bloodlust?" from Ulduar would be impossible to get |
| 16:16.34 | foxlit | let's just assume you're wrong and it's not actually removed on beta. |
| 16:18.30 | nebula169 | eh, it's still a talent in beta |
| 16:18.48 | p3lim | it is? |
| 16:18.54 | p3lim | ah |
| 16:18.58 | p3lim | lvl 60 talent |
| 16:19.02 | nebula169 | yar |
| 16:19.13 | p3lim | And they've renamed it to Dominate Mind |
| 16:19.49 | nebula169 | it's been dominate mind since mop hasn't it? |
| 16:19.57 | foxlit | yes. |
| 16:20.00 | p3lim | never played a priest so I wouldn't know |
| 16:20.09 | p3lim | well, since vanilla |
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| 16:46.42 | Ycarene | Is raidFramesDisplayIncomingHeals still a thing? |
| 16:47.39 | Neffi_ | Ycarene: If it's telling you it's not a valid variable, then no |
| 16:47.58 | Ycarene | Hrm, so I'm pretty much screwed for raids then... |
| 16:48.29 | Neffi_ | That doesn't mean the UI isn't capable of showing that info. It just means that the variable doesn't exist anymore. Maybe it was changed? |
| 16:48.37 | karl_w_w | chances are it was renamed |
| 16:48.38 | Neffi_ | You might consider running a raid frame addon like Grid anyway |
| 16:48.57 | Neffi_ | Are you a healer or a tank? |
| 16:49.28 | Ycarene | Well, that's not the issue, when I go into a raid, I'm fine until I enter combat, then my framerate drops to well below 1. Seems the issue is some bug that setting that variable to 1 bypasses. |
| 16:49.56 | Ycarene | If, for example I die during the raid, my frame rate returns and I can at least view the raid in all it's glory. |
| 16:50.50 | Neffi_ | I'm guessing you got the suggestion to set that variable to 1 from some forum post. If it doesnt exist anymore, obviously the situation's changed. |
| 16:51.00 | Ycarene | I'm doing a fresh re-install, to see if that fixes it. |
| 16:51.03 | Neffi_ | Are you using any addons? Have you tried disabling them to see if the performance issue persists? |
| 16:51.10 | nebula169 | there's no reference to that in live code, lol |
| 16:51.29 | Neffi_ | A reinstall shouldn't be necessary. If anything, just delete the WTF folder |
| 16:51.53 | Ycarene | Ran with removed wtf/cache and interface folders and I get the same issue. |
| 16:52.04 | Neffi_ | So the issue persists without addons? |
| 16:52.08 | Ycarene | Yes |
| 16:52.15 | Neffi_ | Have you tried lowering your settings? |
| 16:52.49 | Ycarene | Didn't seem relavent since framerates are fine if I stay out of combat. |
| 16:53.05 | Ycarene | But yes, I did in fact try that. |
| 16:53.39 | Neffi_ | Try posting on the official tech support forums. A blue can probably give you some insight. As usually they're going to ask you to update your OS and drivers fully, so I would do that first and see if the situation changes |
| 16:53.59 | Ycarene | Running the latest on both of those. |
| 16:54.09 | Ycarene | Can't really go to them for support anyway. |
| 16:54.19 | bluspacecow | This may help : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn2FB1P_Mn8 |
| 16:54.43 | Neffi_ | Ycarene: why? |
| 16:54.52 | Ycarene | Not an officially support os |
| 16:54.58 | bluspacecow | Is this for Live or Beta ? |
| 16:55.02 | Neffi_ | Wine? That could be an issue |
| 16:55.04 | Ycarene | Live |
| 16:55.26 | bluspacecow | Thereâs wine threads someone on the forums. Offtopic forums maybe ? |
| 16:55.31 | bluspacecow | *somewhere |
| 16:55.34 | Neffi_ | Just on the off chance, have you tried switching to OpenGL rendering (or DX if you're already using that?) |
| 16:55.51 | bluspacecow | or the forums for that version of wine. |
| 16:56.01 | Ycarene | Neffi_ tryed both d3dx9 and opengl |
| 16:56.15 | Neffi_ | Well, as blu said, the wine forums may help |
| 16:56.32 | Neffi_ | It's not unusual that a given version of Wine or some given configuration totally botches your ability to play a single game |
| 16:56.52 | bluspacecow | FINALLY! |
| 16:57.05 | bluspacecow | i finds the flight path guy in under city >_> |
| 16:57.27 | Neffi_ | bluspacecow: but it shows you an icon on your minimap. How can you miss that? :P |
| 16:57.45 | bluspacecow | .... |
| 16:57.55 | bluspacecow | i play alliance . on a horde toon on beta for the lolz |
| 16:58.03 | bluspacecow | also /facepalm at me |
| 16:58.10 | Neffi_ | well there's your problem. you play alliance |
| 16:58.14 | Neffi_ | scrum :P |
| 16:58.19 | Neffi_ | scum* |
| 16:58.44 | bluspacecow | You love my scum |
| 16:59.24 | Neffi_ | shudders |
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| 19:23.21 | kd3 | Arakkoa are fun: "It was foretold in the Scroll of Order that upon calling for a sign we would receive one within thirty minutes or less." |
| 19:25.52 | Neffi | o.O |
| 19:29.45 | Dagmar | heheh |
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| 20:03.48 | foxlit | what's a reasonable way to indicate that an item icon on your action bars represents an item that is (a) equipped or (b) equippable, but not equipped? |
| 20:04.10 | kd3 | desaturated? |
| 20:04.12 | Neffi | some sort of colored glow |
| 20:04.24 | Neffi | desat is good too. possibly both |
| 20:04.49 | foxlit | desaturation makes me think "you can't use this" |
| 20:05.14 | kd3 | well, if it's an item with a use: line, if it's not equipped, you can't use it |
| 20:05.35 | foxlit | and I think I ran out of glows. |
| 20:05.44 | Neffi | invent a new color |
| 20:06.24 | Neffi | you could also do a swirly thing like pet spells, but a different color. or a colored exclamation point in the corner, and then a mouseover tooltip will indicate what that means like "You can equip this item" |
| 20:06.38 | foxlit | octarine, then? |
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| 20:07.26 | Neffi | yes |
| 20:07.28 | foxlit | I do essentially want to overlay a texture in one of the corners, but I'm not sure what that overlay should look like. I'm already using exclamation marks for quest-starting items, for instance. |
| 20:08.09 | foxlit | (I think default action bars do nothing for equippable items, and use a green inner glow for equipped ones) |
| 20:08.50 | Neffi | it could look like a little piece of armor, colored orange/red/yellow to indicate an alert |
| 20:11.24 | foxlit | and to make things more complicated, I want to steal an existing texture from somewhere. |
| 20:13.56 | foxlit | the closest thing to armor is probably the durability icons, but they're probably difficult to recognize at that scale. |
| 20:16.28 | Neffi | I dunno <_< |
| 20:16.33 | Neffi | what are you making? |
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| 20:17.15 | foxlit | an action bar, essentially. |
| 20:24.00 | TC-Work | What you want is something akin to an icon that has two easily recognisable states. Like a lock |
| 20:24.16 | TC-Work | lightswitch, etc. |
| 20:24.56 | Xuerian | Would suggest a recognizable bit of armor that you tint green for equipped, grey for equippable, and red for not. |
| 20:25.35 | TC-Work | Except not all items are armor. |
| 20:29.10 | Neffi | could use 3 icons: a shield/helm/chestpiece for armor, a sword for weapon, and some sort of whatever for other items |
| 20:29.54 | TC-Work | I'm not sure there is any recognisable icon that would work without needing to explain it. In which case it could be as simple as red outlined circle for unequipable, orange outlined circle that is half filled for unequiped but equipable and green filled in circle for equiped. You would still need to explain however. |
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| 20:35.26 | foxlit | I don't think there's a need to show anything for things you cannot equip |
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| 21:41.45 | Shirik | the definition of insanity: http://i.gyazo.com/394d59d39ec2e6c98044ffdd701e0312.png |
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| 21:50.54 | karl_w_w | I don't understand ShadniX |
| 21:50.58 | karl_w_w | Shirik* |
| 21:52.18 | karl_w_w | is this some kind of joke against wanting to go to indianapolis or something? :P |
| 21:54.27 | Shirik | no it means I am going to be spending more time in someone else's bed than my own |
| 21:54.30 | Shirik | in August |
| 22:04.51 | Neffi | ugh. First WoW hangs on first launch accepting ToS (hanged trying to delete runonce.wtf?) then my Interface folder disappeared when I tried to move it |
| 22:05.02 | Neffi | Bad HDD? |
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| 22:10.54 | Neffi | ah, also a madVR crash report sitting on my desktop and the problem appears to be unable to write. I guess it's time I shop for a hard drive |
| 22:14.08 | Neffi | motherfucker. uTorrent's failing to write too. why does this shit have to happen to me D: |
| 22:14.51 | Shirik | sounds like your hard drive asploded |
| 22:15.18 | Neffi | getting hash fails backing stuff up now. fuckall |
| 22:15.38 | Neffi | recommend a good cheap SSD before I can't get back on IRC? |
| 22:16.40 | Shirik | they're pretty much all the same |
| 22:16.48 | Shirik | go to newegg and sort by cheapest |
| 22:17.11 | Gnarfoz | mx100, certainly |
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| 22:29.30 | Neffi | 840 EVO is on sale right now. Pretty affordable. Guess I sort of lucked out |
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| 23:03.07 | Shadowed | huh |
| 23:03.10 | Shadowed | did texture loading change in WOD |
| 23:03.19 | Shirik | anyone heard of this game "Ingress"? |
| 23:03.21 | Shirik | It's interesting |
| 23:07.00 | kd3 | talk to dagmar |
| 23:08.22 | Neffi | Shadowed: green textures? Known bug. Not sure if fixed yet or you're seeing another issue. |
| 23:08.27 | Shadowed | yea that |
| 23:08.34 | kd3 | it's still broken in the current build |
| 23:08.49 | kd3 | I'd assume the UI folks are aware |
| 23:13.57 | kd3 | hopefully |
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| 23:28.52 | TC-Work | ~lart Shirik. |
| 23:28.52 | purl | forces Shirik. to use Outlook Express |
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| 23:47.13 | TC-Work | "// provides a nub lick 1 2 6 8 9" I'm sorry but that is not a valid comment. |
| 23:59.23 | Industrial | Hi |
| 23:59.33 | Industrial | With Opie, how do I select sub rings? |
| 23:59.53 | Industrial | I made a ring for all my totems per kind, and one that has all the other totem rings in it bound to alt-q |
