| 00:00.09 | Semlar | granted you had to keep shifting out of roots and then you used up all your mana trying to catch a mage |
| 00:00.29 | Neffi | znf: only from stealth, so it's really not a change |
| 00:00.37 | znf | You have lvl75 talents |
| 00:00.47 | znf | You still have skull bash |
| 00:01.09 | znf | and you still have cyclone |
| 00:01.49 | Neffi | Ah, I guess they reverted that change. We do still have it |
| 00:01.56 | Neffi | Alright, I'm not mad anymore :| |
| 00:02.17 | znf | but Natureâs Swiftness can no longer turn Cyclone into an instant-cast spell. |
| 00:02.17 | znf | :P |
| 00:02.25 | Neffi | Honestly, fucking good |
| 00:02.27 | znf | but check this out for Shamans |
| 00:02.28 | znf | >Tremor Totem is no longer usable while under the effects of Fear, Charm, or Sleep. |
| 00:02.36 | znf | Useless Totem |
| 00:02.52 | Neffi | I'd rather have to hard cast. That alone made ferals so strong in one department, that it was hard to justify giving them attention in other areas |
| 00:03.46 | znf | hmm |
| 00:03.54 | znf | let's see that shirvalav thingie on the beta |
| 00:03.55 | znf | I'm curious |
| 00:04.27 | Neffi | shirvalav? |
| 00:05.27 | znf | new lvl100 talent thingie |
| 00:05.53 | znf | http://wod.wowhead.com/spell=171746 |
| 00:06.48 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/WrzWvAK.jpg |
| 00:07.57 | Neffi | that thing is damn ugly |
| 00:08.05 | Neffi | I like being a cat |
| 00:18.27 | jleclanche | Opt-in unsubscribes from social "invitations" should be fucking outlawed. |
| 00:22.35 | znf | honestly, I'm impressed you can paste a URL in a "choose file" dialogue that a browser pops up |
| 00:22.55 | znf | (in windows that is) |
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| 00:52.58 | VIad | :) |
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| 00:57.15 | Neffi | oh wow. "After casting Frost Nova, the cooldown of Blink is reset." |
| 00:57.23 | Neffi | this is way more significant than it sounds |
| 00:59.06 | VIad | hmm |
| 00:59.10 | VIad | without blood strike |
| 00:59.18 | VIad | I feel like my DK tank has more waiting around time now :( |
| 00:59.25 | VIad | waiting for runes |
| 00:59.27 | VIad | kind of lame |
| 00:59.34 | VIad | rune tap don't heal anymore either, less solo power :( |
| 01:01.23 | VIad | I am a bit unsure what class to play |
| 01:01.27 | VIad | I pref to be a tank :) |
| 01:01.28 | Neffi | Frost looks pretty damn fun for PvP in WoD. Anyone on the beta playing it? |
| 01:01.35 | VIad | :< |
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| 01:13.09 | znf | random question if the night |
| 01:13.32 | znf | how much flash memory do "usual" USB micro-controllers have? |
| 01:13.39 | znf | say, the ones used in USB drives |
| 01:14.45 | znf | I see theres USB controllers with flash memory ranging from 8KB to 256KB |
| 01:16.05 | znf | Can you even communicate directly from, say, windows, with the usb micro-controller? |
| 01:18.29 | p3lim | 32 or 128 afaik |
| 01:18.55 | p3lim | probably 16 too |
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| 01:21.56 | znf | was reading about this BadUSB thingie that popped up today |
| 01:22.23 | znf | and I'm wondering how much payload can you even store in the firmware; and how if there's any chance of doing something really malicious |
| 01:27.09 | Neffi_ | haha http://wod.wowhead.com/spell=162218 |
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| 01:32.19 | Gethe | :< LOOT_CLOSED seems to be fireing before LOOT_OPENED when autolooting |
| 01:33.00 | Xuerian | It's not like loot events were particularly well ordered to begin with, but that's a new low |
| 01:40.59 | TC-Work | Could be worse. Could fire at random times. |
| 01:41.12 | Xuerian | TC-Work: You mean like the other loot events? |
| 01:42.57 | TC-Work | Possibly. |
| 01:43.03 | Xuerian | LOOT_ITEM_* are, as far as I've seen, completely unreliable as to if the item is in your inventory yet or not. But that's not as critical as LOOT_OPENED/CLOSED, so that's the new low :p |
| 01:44.11 | Gethe | thats on beta though so ill report it and hopfully it'll get fixed |
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| 01:58.23 | p3lim | That explains why I've had stuck loot windows on the beta |
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| 02:00.43 | Torhal | I think I had to do some mad voodoo regarding the LOOT_* events in the WoWDB AddOn. |
| 02:00.48 | Torhal | That was two years ago, though, so... |
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| 02:07.35 | pompy | znf: they just hid the code in the firmware, im sure its "compressed" or something but anything crazy can be done in very little LOC! |
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| 03:09.40 | Shirik | new volkswagen ad: http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-mUt2GqdQbCY/U9o30gBLYpI/AAAAAAAARZE/9SDy7rAyoBM/w426-h239/aGVKrw5_460sa_v1.gif |
| 03:12.56 | Gethe | Shirik: classy |
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| 07:33.49 | Gethe | WTF |
| 07:33.56 | tz | what the |
| 07:34.00 | MiRai | uh.. |
| 07:34.13 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:52.11 | karl_w_w | ooh new google maps layout |
| 09:52.37 | karl_w_w | which doesnt work |
| 09:53.23 | karl_w_w | good job google, you went and youtubed maps |
| 09:54.30 | karl_w_w | well it works in IE, so that's obviously what matters |
| 09:55.19 | mitchnull | hm? seems to work fine in chromium, too |
| 10:06.14 | karl_w_w | i dont know how to get out of street view |
| 10:06.29 | karl_w_w | oh you have to click a link back to map |
| 10:06.36 | karl_w_w | zooming out was too convenient |
| 10:11.05 | karl_w_w | although you can now cancel a route plan |
| 10:11.15 | karl_w_w | without losing your position on the map |
| 10:18.34 | jleclanche | its nice to see 4 eff.org article on the frontpage of hn |
| 10:20.54 | karl_w_w | jleclanche, the most hilarious thing happened on Amaz's stream yesterday, though I may not have time to find it |
| 10:21.14 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: i watched a bit of it, what are you refering to? |
| 10:21.31 | karl_w_w | when he played a game making bird noises |
| 10:21.58 | jleclanche | oh yeah |
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| 11:33.55 | mikma | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcKPAGoDz8A !!!!! not safe for günther |
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| 11:58.32 | sb | who is günther? |
| 12:02.41 | mikma | someone who likes to touch your tralala, your dingdingdong |
| 12:03.36 | sb | ^:( |
| 12:03.51 | sb | so you are calling my gf günther? |
| 12:05.06 | Maldivia | sb: no, he's calling you günther |
| 12:26.06 | Stanzilla | 1x constant table overflow |
| 12:26.07 | Stanzilla | that is new |
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| 13:16.12 | VIad | Stanzilla: you are a table overflow |
| 13:47.42 | foxlit | you know, if wow took motion/camera input from a gamepad's analog sticks, I could almost be persudaded to write an addon for handlign the rest of the actionbar/unitframe logic. |
| 13:49.14 | Fisker | Random foxlit fact of the day |
| 13:49.31 | foxlit | file it under "things that will never happen" |
| 14:07.21 | Fisker | becomes foxlit's secretary |
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| 14:19.14 | pino | any big changes made since Wow Programming 2nd edition came out that i should be aware of before reading it? |
| 14:20.08 | nevcairiel | Probably quite a bit of changes to the API, but doubtful there is a complete list of changes anywhere |
| 14:20.28 | nevcairiel | The basics are still the same |
| 14:20.30 | pino | fair enough, but no large elements that have become obsolete or anything |
| 14:20.32 | pino | good, thanks :) |
| 14:21.47 | pino | my first goal is to add a button to auction house that allows me to search for only "silk cloth" and not everything that contains the words "silk cloth" |
| 14:22.00 | pino | i'm sure there is already something that does that, but it'll be a fun exercise anyways |
| 14:22.14 | pino | if it's possible at all, that is ;p |
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| 14:31.13 | Industrial | Fisker, I have a piece of authentic dutch bovine mammary fluid, curdled by stomach enzymes and injected with mold for you |
| 14:31.17 | Industrial | also, hi,. |
| 14:32.13 | Fisker | No thanks |
| 14:32.16 | Fisker | Also hi |
| 14:33.45 | Industrial | Fisker I'm like a church mouse. |
| 14:33.51 | Industrial | I want to talk to you about cheeses |
| 14:34.04 | Fisker | Meh |
| 14:34.26 | pino | does auctioneer provide a way to search for only a complete string? like a search that does not show embersilk cloth when you search for silk cloth? |
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| 14:55.29 | VIad | :( |
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| 15:05.17 | Industrial | A OK |
| 15:12.33 | karl_w_w | so I went to see kate miller-heidke live tonight. some positives: I know what I'm calling my first born if I ever have one, when I'm old and frail and alzheimers or dementia has caused me to forget that child and everything else I'll still have something to remember, and the support act was pretty awesome as well |
| 15:12.46 | karl_w_w | negative: she didn't sing politics in space :( |
| 15:13.22 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: amaz is gonna go 12-0 with this deck srsly |
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| 15:15.59 | karl_w_w | uh-huh, is he gonna sing while doing it? |
| 15:21.46 | jleclanche | 11-0 hype |
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| 16:22.45 | Shirik | facebook died |
| 16:22.47 | Shirik | my life is over |
| 16:27.15 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7MuwPlOiNQ this will tide you over Shirik |
| 16:30.15 | Shirik | lol nice |
| 16:30.36 | Fisker | what life Shirik ? |
| 16:30.57 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: VENGEANCE https://mediacru.sh/39rwIDeQRJXs |
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| 16:50.11 | TC-Work | Shirik: You never answered me about your pornstar card. |
| 16:50.33 | jleclanche | Cairenn: you around? |
| 16:58.11 | Shirik | TC-Work: that was you? |
| 16:58.14 | Shirik | I thought that was someone else |
| 16:58.17 | Shirik | whoops |
| 17:02.09 | TC-Work | Shirik: heh |
| 17:02.32 | Shirik | there is someone in particular I try to avoid |
| 17:02.40 | Shirik | I apparently confused you with him |
| 17:04.29 | TC-Work | Well, it's a resonable reaction once you get to know me. |
| 17:04.40 | TC-Work | reasonable* |
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| 17:08.15 | smcn | can i get get get to know kn-know know ya better better baby |
| 17:08.49 | TC-Work | Shirik: I wasn't actually expecting an answer anyway. |
| 17:09.57 | kd3 | color me shocked: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/15053028/the-alliance-chopper-is-riding-into-azeroth-8-1-2014 |
| 17:10.30 | Stanzilla | not that surprising :( |
| 17:10.38 | g0urra | of course the whiners won |
| 17:11.10 | nevcairiel | It would've been kinda stupid to only do one faction bike |
| 17:11.32 | g0urra | their loss |
| 17:11.36 | g0urra | brb lightning |
| 17:12.24 | nevcairiel | And this one apparently costs gold, and not free like the horde obe |
| 17:12.26 | nevcairiel | One |
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| 17:44.23 | fewyn | you guys realize this was the plan all along? they can't put a faction exclusive mount ingame without having one for faction transfers |
| 17:45.44 | nevcairiel | obviously this was always planned |
| 17:46.40 | fewyn | i have a bad feeling it's going to be a huge gold sink for alliance |
| 17:46.43 | fewyn | which kind of annoys me |
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| 18:07.25 | Fisker | Why not just get it for free and transfer? |
| 18:07.50 | kd3 | I'd rather spend the gold than the $25 |
| 18:09.10 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: arena. https://cdn.mediacru.sh/YO4QF84sYSpS.png |
| 18:10.14 | VIad | jleclanche: CHEATER |
| 18:10.42 | VIad | 1. keeper 2. fireball/? 3. kirintormage 4. mirrorentity 5. win |
| 18:12.06 | Fisker | So that's what the silly TV show was about kd3? |
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| 18:43.15 | Cairenn | jleclanche: I am now, what's up? |
| 18:43.26 | jleclanche | Cairenn: pm |
| 18:48.40 | Arrowmaster | http://www.reddit.com/r/iiiiiiitttttttttttt/comments/2ccf3h/read_only_friday_stash_show_off/cje7jvf |
| 18:48.48 | Arrowmaster | i just cant resist a chance to show off my stash |
| 18:51.15 | Stanzilla | better than showing off your rack |
| 18:51.39 | Arrowmaster | maybe later tonight |
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| 19:39.41 | nevcairiel | man it took me like 4 hours to get dual booting windows with debian in uefi mode setup, linux sure is not uefi ready yet, or at least debian o.o |
| 19:40.03 | kd3 | huh. I had no issue at all in fedora 20 dual-booting win8.1 |
| 19:40.48 | nevcairiel | for special reasons I wanted a i386 debian, and they apparently don't consider the case that someone wants that on a uefi system |
| 19:43.06 | Fisker | VM nevcairiel |
| 19:43.07 | Fisker | VM! |
| 19:43.22 | Fisker | ubuntu no issue though |
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| 19:43.57 | Stanzilla | yeah was about to say that, you could have booted from a VM |
| 19:44.05 | nevcairiel | i think the biggest issue was that its a 32-bit debian, they don't even include a uefi boot loader on its install image |
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| 19:45.32 | nevcairiel | but it works now! |
| 19:45.48 | Stanzilla | why 32bit btw |
| 19:45.55 | Stanzilla | software testing? |
| 19:46.51 | nevcairiel | kinda, the linux package i'm working on is 32-bit and distributed as such, trying to build and package that on a 64-bit system is annoying and requires a chroot setup and whatnot |
| 19:47.40 | Stanzilla | yeah I would have VM'd that |
| 20:05.10 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: im running debian on uefi fine |
| 20:05.22 | Arrowmaster | oh but im 64bit |
| 20:05.36 | nevcairiel | the problem wasnt running debian, but getting it dual-booting windows in uefi =p |
| 20:05.49 | Arrowmaster | yeah thats a nightmare ill never mess with if i can help it |
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| 21:17.17 | kd3 | install windows on a clean system, get to a livecd environment and shrink the primary windows partition (or do it from the installer if it's good enough), fire up the installer and manually partition to point /boot/EFI to the already existing efi system partition |
| 21:17.36 | kd3 | as long as secure boot is off, or hell, even if it's on, it's not the disaster it was even last year |
| 21:58.57 | pompy | Now that is awesome https://www.facebook.com/SpaceX/photos/a.10150303260090131.563831.353851465130/10154638657420131/?type=1&permPage=1 |
| 22:10.27 | Neffi_ | pokes Semlar |
| 22:11.23 | foxlit | http://pastebin.com/HSPHVn83 |
| 22:11.37 | foxlit | I hate modifier locking. |
| 22:12.23 | Shirik | I hate those variable names |
| 22:12.47 | Shirik | in fact, I just straight up hate that code |
| 22:14.13 | foxlit | you should totally rewrite it to your liking. |
| 22:14.45 | Kalroth | local a,s,c = modState:match("(.)(.)(.)") <- hehe, it's three-boobies from Total Recall! |
| 22:15.02 | Shirik | .... |
| 22:15.21 | Shirik | foxlit: how about I just burn it in fire instead |
| 22:16.14 | foxlit | dunno, that might break things. |
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| 22:32.18 | Shirik | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOOxpT9q2mo |
| 22:42.12 | pompy | from June, but yeah, http://steamcommunity.com/games/CSGO/announcements/detail/1751086783896069815 |
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| 23:23.21 | foxlit | out of the following, which do you like better: [talent:1.2] [talent:1:2] [talent:1-2] [talent:Displacer Beast]? |
| 23:24.35 | Stanzilla | 1,2 |
| 23:25.02 | Stanzilla | did I do that right? |
| 23:25.27 | foxlit | no, that would break [talent:1,2,nomod] |
| 23:25.37 | Stanzilla | I know |
| 23:25.55 | Stanzilla | why not talentrow:1:2 |
| 23:26.39 | foxlit | more typing, kind of redundant in the absence of talent*anythingelse |
| 23:27.47 | Neffi_ | foxlit: any of the first 3 AND the fourth. It should accept both |
| 23:28.28 | foxlit | (so it's really a question of which of the first three :); the fourth is a freebie.) |
| 23:29.07 | Neffi_ | 1:2 means the colon isn't context-free. That's probably trivial code-wise anyway, but it can be confusing at-a-glance. So I'd strike that one. |
| 23:29.15 | Neffi_ | I think 1.2 "feels" better than 1-2 |
| 23:29.27 | Neffi_ | 1-2 makes it seem like "1 to 2" as if specifying a range of talents |
| 23:30.31 | foxlit | mm, makes sense. |
| 23:31.09 | Neffi_ | All work for people that know how to use it, but 1.2 is the most intuitive. No reading the docs to know what it means. You can expect people to make a good guess |
| 23:31.42 | foxlit | to be fair, I'm overriding the default [talent:1/2] syntax to begin with, so there's no escaping the docs. |
| 23:31.43 | Stanzilla | I would say that talentrow1:2 would be the easiest though |
| 23:32.04 | Simca_ | isn't blizz doing something like that in 6.0 |
| 23:32.15 | smcn | is this a conditional for a talent you've taken? imo the first number should be the level not the row |
| 23:32.32 | foxlit | smcn: yes. |
| 23:32.35 | foxlit | Simca_: yes. |
| 23:33.00 | Semlar | stabs neffi |
| 23:33.00 | Neffi_ | oh god i'm leaking |
| 23:33.04 | Neffi_ | smcn: that's weird. I don't even know off the top of my head what level is required for each row |
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| 23:38.37 | smcn | Neffi_: me neither, nor the number of rows, but the former i can learn immediately without having to count |
| 23:41.05 | Neffi_ | hey Semlar, still playing on that pve server? |
| 23:41.50 | foxlit | I could do both, at least until they have 15 rows of talents. |
| 23:42.28 | Neffi_ | if that happens, just require an L prefix |
| 23:43.00 | smcn | foxlit: ha, word. maybe another redesign before then |
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| 23:44.18 | foxlit | I wonder how framexml knows what the levels are. |
| 23:44.38 | Neffi_ | I think they're just textures |
| 23:44.43 | Neffi_ | (the numbers) |
| 23:44.51 | foxlit | that sounds mad. |
| 23:45.07 | Neffi_ | I guess you don't dabble in web development |
| 23:45.12 | Neffi_ | images everywhere! |
| 23:46.50 | foxlit | besides, don't they have to change them for death knights? |
| 23:47.41 | Neffi_ | good question... |
| 23:48.10 | Stanzilla | they don't :p |
| 23:48.11 | foxlit | http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/18291/Constants.lua#167 |
| 23:48.23 | Stanzilla | WOAH |
| 23:51.12 | foxlit | so [talent:30.2] [talent:2.2] and [talent:renewal] |
| 23:51.47 | Neffi_ | gorgeous |
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| 23:52.18 | Semlar | so talented |
| 23:52.49 | smcn | ~boo Semlar |
| 23:53.05 | purl | Boo! Hiss! Semlar is pure filth! Boo! |
| 23:53.05 | Semlar | much wow |
| 23:53.07 | Neffi_ | https://i.imgur.com/imG57Td.png best use of facebook ever |
| 23:54.28 | Neffi_ | hey semlar, I'm about to get a vps. give me some ideas of what to do with it while it's idle |
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| 23:55.02 | Semlar | automatically find you porn |
| 23:55.17 | Neffi_ | I have very discerning tastes, I'll let you know |
| 23:55.33 | Semlar | that's why you need dedicated cpu cycles |
| 23:55.50 | Semlar | only the very best for neffi |
| 23:56.09 | Neffi_ | but I won't have a dedicated CPU |
| 23:56.20 | Neffi_ | I get "1 core" and I think that means I get one thread |
| 23:56.46 | Semlar | well you know what they say about idle threads |
| 23:56.59 | foxlit | it'd be nice to do the same thing for glyphs, but that API is horrible |
| 23:57.29 | Neffi_ | Semlar: they coerce the OS into sending HLT to the CPU? |
| 23:57.55 | Semlar | they're the devil's workshop neffi |
| 23:58.58 | foxlit | the glyph list is filtered c-side; provides only glyph IDs. Glyph sockets provide only glyph spell ids. Glyph spells have different names from the glyph list. :/ |
