| 00:00.37 | Semlar | http://pastebin.com/diSs25L1 this is basically what i have |
| 00:01.10 | Semlar | when i change resolutions the arrow becomes too large to stay inside of its dimensions and clips the edges of the model |
| 00:01.21 | Semlar | which is absurd |
| 00:02.57 | Maldivia | what if you call SetPosition again, with the same args? |
| 00:03.13 | Maldivia | after you've changed resolution, thati s |
| 00:03.20 | Semlar | i'll have to check, but it basically forces a reload when you change resolutions |
| 00:03.58 | Semlar | so it should behave about the same as when you normally reload |
| 00:05.27 | Semlar | hmm |
| 00:06.01 | Semlar | actually i also have arrow:SetScale(1.25) because it's parented to something with a larger scale |
| 00:06.22 | Semlar | so without that you won't see the problem |
| 00:06.54 | Semlar | calling setposition again doesn't change it, unfortunately |
| 00:07.45 | Maldivia | I assume the effectivescale of the model is different in the two respolutions then |
| 00:07.52 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure i need to call model:SetModelScale with something relative to the resolution |
| 00:08.02 | Semlar | but i don't know why it's doing this in the first place |
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| 00:08.55 | Semlar | it's odd, basically the arrow becomes larger the lower the screen width is |
| 00:09.18 | Maldivia | that's because the width is the controlling dimension |
| 00:09.52 | Semlar | why doesn't the model account for that so it looks the same |
| 00:10.16 | Semlar | doesn't other stuff just scale down? |
| 00:11.18 | Maldivia | tried /dump model:GetEffectiveScale() |
| 00:11.27 | Maldivia | to see what the actual scale is at various resoutions |
| 00:12.02 | Maldivia | since you have the 1.25 factor, it could have influence on it |
| 00:12.21 | Semlar | i think the ui scale changes from ~0.7111 to 0.75 when i go from 1920x1080 to 1280x1024 |
| 00:12.53 | Semlar | maybe i'll just set the model scale to GetScreenWidth() / 1920 |
| 00:13.11 | Semlar | i think that's about right |
| 00:14.11 | Semlar | i'm not sure when GetScreenWidth() is available in the loading process |
| 00:14.21 | Semlar | should be as soon as the addon loads? |
| 00:15.19 | Semlar | nope |
| 00:15.29 | Semlar | looks like i'll have to wait for something else |
| 00:15.36 | Semlar | maybe PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD |
| 00:16.30 | Neffi | :RegisterAllEvents for function(event) print(event, GetScreenWidth()) end |
| 00:16.39 | Semlar | :| |
| 00:16.44 | Neffi | bam, you have a log of what's available when |
| 00:16.47 | Semlar | assuming you can even print at that point |
| 00:17.01 | Neffi | you can print right away, unless that's changed |
| 00:17.09 | Neffi | that's kinda the point of print(); diagnostics |
| 00:17.10 | Semlar | if you print too early it won't show up in the chat |
| 00:17.18 | Semlar | i am preeetty sure |
| 00:17.22 | Neffi | that's probably an addon :Clear()ing it |
| 00:17.38 | Semlar | dunno |
| 00:17.41 | Esamynn|work | aye, the default UI loads before all addons |
| 00:18.04 | Neffi | also you can do what I do. I have a fucking :debug() that adds its message to an array with date() timestamp added. I just /dump the array to inspect debug statements |
| 00:18.25 | Semlar | i'll try PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 00:18.46 | Neffi | verrr simple https://github.com/nefftd/nfAddon/blob/master/nfAddon.lua#L47 |
| 00:19.05 | Semlar | hooks neffi's loading process |
| 00:19.12 | Neffi | oh, don't do that |
| 00:19.18 | Semlar | too late |
| 00:19.25 | Semlar | i'm hooked |
| 00:19.29 | VIad | so Semlar how exactly did you do it using only GetMonitorAspectRatio? |
| 00:19.46 | Semlar | well first i had to look up how to math |
| 00:20.11 | Semlar | then i made some observations at different aspect ratios |
| 00:20.14 | Torhal | Is math anything like magnets? |
| 00:20.23 | Semlar | much more complicated |
| 00:20.33 | Torhal | Well fuck that, then. |
| 00:20.57 | Semlar | that's what i thought at first, but i decided it would all be worth it |
| 00:21.18 | Semlar | i'll make the sacrifice for the greater good |
| 00:21.59 | Neffi | chuckles |
| 00:22.05 | Semlar | (a/((a/b)^(1/((1920/1080)-(1280/1024))))^(1920/1080))*((a/b)^(1/((1920/1080)-(1280/1024))))^(GetScreenWidth()/GetScreenHeight()) |
| 00:22.42 | VIad | my almost correct formula positions the icon nearly on top of the original one by applying "s=UIParent:GetEffectiveScale() x=x*s*UIParent:GetWidth() y=y*s*UIParent:GetWidth()" but that was as far as I got to getting it correct :P |
| 00:23.24 | Semlar | i have it pretty much dead on at this point |
| 00:23.45 | Semlar | it's actually fairly annoying to find a level piece of ground to compare distances to a rare from |
| 00:24.36 | Semlar | local a, b = 62.68305^(1920/1080), 1230 these go with the above formula |
| 00:26.06 | Semlar | the number only needs to be calculated once on PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 00:26.44 | VIad | that is an interesting scale calculation |
| 00:26.58 | Semlar | and i'll damn well know if someone copies it |
| 00:27.11 | VIad | either blizzard made it unreasonably difficult on purpose or there is an easier way we havent seen yet |
| 00:27.39 | Semlar | i don't even know if we're supposed to have icon position information |
| 00:27.49 | Semlar | we sure as hell can't get access to any other blips |
| 00:27.50 | VIad | if the API returns it... |
| 00:28.13 | VIad | any reason you SW/SH rather than GetMonitorAspectRatio() ? |
| 00:28.21 | VIad | there are some floating point differences |
| 00:28.57 | Semlar | don't know, i've never used that function |
| 00:30.54 | VIad | hmm |
| 00:31.00 | VIad | my icon floats next to the real one though |
| 00:31.08 | VIad | do you use 1920x1080 or 1920x1200? |
| 00:31.22 | Semlar | 1920x1080 |
| 00:31.30 | VIad | odd |
| 00:31.33 | VIad | :SetPoint("BOTTOMLEFT", Minimap, v.x * s, v.y * s) ? |
| 00:31.38 | VIad | where s is your scale |
| 00:31.52 | Semlar | no |
| 00:32.06 | Semlar | you're positioning the center of the icon relative to the bottom left of the minimap |
| 00:32.16 | Semlar | not the bottom left of the icon |
| 00:32.22 | VIad | ah right |
| 00:32.38 | Semlar | also the icon shouldn't be scaled so make sure it has no parent |
| 00:32.53 | Semlar | scale affects positioning |
| 00:32.57 | VIad | the frame has no parent |
| 00:33.46 | Semlar | and i made the size of the icon 22.5 * Minimap:GetEffectiveScale() |
| 00:34.16 | Semlar | just to try and match the look |
| 00:34.20 | VIad | yeah |
| 00:34.32 | VIad | the icons are originally 32x but maybe some scaling applied, 20 is the right number for me |
| 00:34.47 | Semlar | they should only be like 16x16 |
| 00:35.05 | Semlar | after scaling |
| 00:35.15 | VIad | 16x is smaller than the original icon for me though |
| 00:35.37 | Semlar | 16 is what 22.5 * Minimap:GetEffectiveScale() gets you at my ui scale |
| 00:36.06 | VIad | why not the original size scaled, like 32*Minimap:GetEffectiveScale() ? |
| 00:36.13 | Semlar | the original size is 16 |
| 00:36.17 | VIad | hmm |
| 00:36.30 | VIad | the documentation said something about 32x lol |
| 00:36.33 | VIad | guess its outdated |
| 00:37.27 | Semlar | where are you getting that |
| 00:37.47 | Semlar | it doesn't really matter that much, just look at the icon size on the minimap |
| 00:37.56 | VIad | yeah it's 20 for me |
| 00:37.58 | VIad | the original icon |
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| 00:38.11 | VIad | http://wowpedia.org/API_Minimap_SetBlipTexture |
| 00:38.40 | Semlar | the icons are half that size on the minimap itself |
| 00:38.58 | VIad | I see |
| 00:41.44 | Semlar | i also have a trick to draw things under the existing minimap icons instead of on top of them |
| 00:42.07 | Semlar | but it's probably not something i would build into the addon |
| 00:43.47 | Semlar | if you call Minimap:SetAlpha(0) it only hides the background map and leaves the icons so you can just create a second identical minimap on top of the first one that only shows the icons with your layer in between them |
| 00:45.26 | VIad | :D |
| 00:45.41 | Semlar | that way you can put things under the minimap icons instead of covering them up |
| 00:45.57 | VIad | I am flabbergasted how you found 62.68305 |
| 00:46.02 | VIad | and 1230 ofc :P |
| 00:46.15 | VIad | trying to find some better formula to get to ~1500 |
| 00:46.43 | Semlar | 1230 is probably slightly off but if you don't notice much difference at 1280x1024 it doesn't matter |
| 00:46.54 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure it's reeeeeally close |
| 00:47.13 | VIad | your 1.2735 ratio between a and b is interesting |
| 00:47.23 | VIad | isnt 1.25 1280x1024? |
| 00:47.29 | Semlar | yeah |
| 00:47.30 | VIad | aspect |
| 00:47.44 | Semlar | it's the lowest aspect ratio i found on the dropdown menu |
| 00:47.58 | Semlar | i picked the highest and lowest ones for my test |
| 00:48.42 | Semlar | well, first i tried a whole lot of other things |
| 00:50.31 | Semlar | this is an exponential decay formula |
| 00:51.35 | Semlar | and i graphed two points on the line, the rest of the resolutions should all fall on the line |
| 00:54.37 | Semlar | i don't appear to have any AAA batteries |
| 00:55.13 | Semlar | the one in my timer ran out after like 8 years |
| 00:59.54 | VIad | I am so not happy with your formula - in the sense I refuse that this is what blizz use :D |
| 01:00.00 | VIad | but Ill continue the search another time |
| 01:03.59 | Semlar | it's probably some internal scale the game uses |
| 01:04.32 | Semlar | it hardly matters what the real one is, i have a close enough approximation |
| 01:06.02 | Semlar | can you check if someone else is locked to an instance with the api |
| 01:10.42 | VIad | what api? a bit slow atm |
| 01:11.35 | VIad | Semlar: another rare? |
| 01:12.04 | Shirik | karl_w_w: you should play dota 2 |
| 01:12.11 | Semlar | checking someone else's raid lockouts |
| 01:14.03 | VIad | oh |
| 01:14.12 | VIad | don't got any lockouts atm :< |
| 01:16.00 | VIad | Semlar: I found UpdateBlips is better to hook for updating than OnUpdate on the frames |
| 01:16.44 | Semlar | i have to use onupdate for the targeting arrow anyway |
| 01:16.48 | VIad | ah |
| 01:17.00 | VIad | nvm |
| 01:17.05 | VIad | there is a slight delay on UpdateBlips too |
| 01:17.07 | VIad | :p |
| 01:18.51 | VIad | regarding the npc name being different |
| 01:18.56 | VIad | can tooltip scan for the creature name by id |
| 01:19.58 | Semlar | no i can't, because the name doesn't match the vignette |
| 01:20.08 | VIad | I know |
| 01:20.14 | VIad | but if you want to be able to click and target it |
| 01:20.20 | VIad | ah right |
| 01:20.22 | VIad | vignette no npcid :P |
| 01:21.01 | Semlar | if there's a typo in the vignette i'm basically screwed |
| 01:21.14 | Semlar | since the name is the ONLY identifier for it |
| 01:21.29 | Semlar | at least the first time you encounter it |
| 01:21.33 | VIad | yeah |
| 01:21.45 | Semlar | obviously i can cache the typo after the fact |
| 01:21.53 | VIad | ugh |
| 01:22.06 | VIad | http://ss.bool.no/capture_1406596920.png I don't think that's a rare :P |
| 01:22.14 | VIad | shows up as rare (not on minimap) |
| 01:22.48 | Neffi | dat frame tear |
| 01:23.01 | VIad | the pidgin plugin isnt good at vsync |
| 01:23.33 | Neffi | A pidgin plugin is fucking up your vsync? |
| 01:23.35 | VIad | 51 million health :o |
| 01:23.36 | VIad | no |
| 01:23.41 | VIad | it just doesn't screenshot right :P |
| 01:24.04 | VIad | I push a button to take a picture, a second later I get a selection tool, but the image it took is not properly vsynced |
| 01:24.22 | VIad | it doesn't show up like that in-game for me |
| 01:24.36 | Semlar | my choices are either go through the vignette database by hand, matching names to npc IDs or dump a list of rare npc IDs from wowhead, localize their name in-game, and if the vignette that pops up isn't in there try and guess the closest match |
| 01:26.08 | VIad | if you could get the names for the mobs in all languages you can have a pretty nifty failsafe system, where if the string is not found in the list, match closest one, alert user to PM you the message so you can add it to some internal list :P |
| 01:26.22 | VIad | doubt you want to visit all the vignettes in-game for a complete DB |
| 01:28.55 | Semlar | unless two rares have very close names and one of them has a typo in it, i could probably guess the correct mob from the list |
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| 01:30.04 | Semlar | it would be a fairly expensive operation though |
| 01:30.11 | Semlar | even if you cached the results |
| 01:30.43 | Semlar | you'd have to compare the typo'd name with every name in the database looking for the closest match |
| 01:30.48 | kd3 | good luck doing that for gorgrond treasure chests though... I'm trying to map them to quests now... http://dpaste.com/1JJNBE1 |
| 01:31.55 | Semlar | you can get the name of a quest by creating a tooltip for it if that would help |
| 01:32.26 | kd3 | those are all tracking quests and don't have anything in them... http://beta.wowhead.com/quest=36015 |
| 01:32.35 | Semlar | they still have a name |
| 01:32.49 | kd3 | Tracking: Mill Treasure 16 |
| 01:33.08 | Semlar | what's in the vignette's name? |
| 01:33.21 | kd3 | Mysterious Petrified Pod |
| 01:33.33 | Semlar | well that's unfortunate |
| 02:14.24 | smcn | why does vignette have like 3 meanings |
| 02:15.56 | Semlar | in what context |
| 02:16.33 | smcn | i mean i've never heard it used to refer to a physical object |
| 02:17.05 | kd3 | huh, that's weird. just logged back in and my first action bar just doesn't want to exist at all |
| 02:17.08 | kd3 | reloaded, reset settings, nothing |
| 02:17.19 | kd3 | keybinds don't work on that bar either. odd |
| 02:17.36 | Semlar | yeah i wouldn't have called the rare icons vignettes but what can you do |
| 02:17.49 | smcn | in terms of video games anyways, i've only heard of vignette as like a short scene or recounting of something, or "vignetting" as in the edges of the screen fade away |
| 02:18.06 | Semlar | well, it can mean like a blurb |
| 02:18.16 | Semlar | a brief description of something |
| 02:18.40 | smcn | yeah i guess that makes sense |
| 02:19.16 | smcn | seeing it drop off a mob was weird though i was like "this guy is supposed to drop a cutscene?" |
| 02:19.44 | smcn | that's what i'd expect it to describe in wow |
| 02:19.50 | Semlar | maybe he was rehearsing for a scene |
| 02:19.59 | smcn | e.g. AWESOME INGAME VIGNETTE |
| 02:20.10 | smcn | lol |
| 02:23.02 | Dagmar | Considering that some of them look like miniature repeating events... |
| 02:23.31 | Dagmar | ...my guess is that they're referring more to the fight than the mob itself. |
| 02:23.45 | Semlar | probably |
| 02:23.48 | Dagmar | I found one on a tree that someone had maybe burned. No mob around. |
| 02:23.56 | Dagmar | Just some NPC whining "WHO WOULD SO SUCH A THING?" |
| 02:24.14 | Dagmar | You gotta admit these things all fight more like bosses than elite mobs, even if they're soloable |
| 02:24.53 | Dagmar | Except that little fuckign flower guy |
| 02:25.05 | Dagmar | He just murders people who don't see that he's 100 in time. ;) |
| 02:25.13 | smcn | i guess. it would be interesting to know how they came around to choosing that particular word though |
| 02:25.25 | Dagmar | I can't think of any better word |
| 02:25.37 | Dagmar | 'cameo' would be equally wrong |
| 02:26.15 | Neffi | does beta have an NDA? |
| 02:26.18 | smcn | event? i guess maybe there'd be a little conflict there |
| 02:26.21 | kd3 | no |
| 02:26.24 | kd3 | neither did alpha this time |
| 02:26.28 | smcn | newp not since f&f |
| 02:26.30 | smcn | i mean |
| 02:26.31 | smcn | not even f&f |
| 02:26.41 | Dagmar | Well, a vignette is also a brief account or episode |
| 02:27.14 | smcn | they just put it all out there when the take-home alpha started because people were gonna find & mine it anyways |
| 02:27.42 | Neffi | is the PvP zone implemented yet? |
| 02:27.44 | smcn | Dagmar: yeah, my confusion mainly lies with grey items that drop labelled vignette |
| 02:27.52 | kd3 | neffi, yes, on the level 100 pvp realm |
| 02:28.00 | Dagmar | I've not seen one of those yet |
| 02:28.08 | smcn | i've had a few drop from rare mobs |
| 02:28.11 | Dagmar | Only holy placeholders and the like |
| 02:28.31 | Dagmar | Could be they haven't made a up story-able item for the mini world boss in question |
| 02:28.36 | kd3 | for an idea of what "vignettes" mean to blizz - http://wowpedia.org/frrare and http://wowpedia.org/smvrare |
| 02:28.42 | Dagmar | ...since most of these guys drop a gimmick item it seems |
| 02:29.09 | kd3 | the items may not be listed on the article, but they're all uncommon or better (with a single exception) |
| 02:29.15 | kd3 | s/listed/implemented/ |
| 02:29.37 | smcn | actually now i guess it makes sense, vignette on the item would identify that as the source |
| 02:29.38 | Dagmar | Like, Hypnocroak drops an item that lets you hypnotize a non-combat mob into followiing you around for five minutes like a pet |
| 02:29.41 | smcn | not that the item is a vignette |
| 02:29.54 | smcn | comprehension problem solved |
| 02:30.59 | VIad | btw candy crush is a knockoff! never knew it until random article with a screenshot :P |
| 02:31.14 | VIad | so many older games like it, top of my head is bejeweled |
| 02:35.09 | Seerah | Match 3 is a whole genre of games now |
| 02:35.10 | Semlar | like.. all of those facebook games are literally just straight copies from existing video games |
| 02:35.22 | VIad | I just dislike the candy crush game since it's one of those "pay if you want to play more than once per day" :P |
| 02:35.32 | VIad | "just" 1$ on this, and that, it's bs. |
| 02:35.44 | Seerah | I got pissed off at it a long time ago and stopped playing. When it was all luck and no skill. |
| 02:36.04 | VIad | just play bejeweled if you want a good game like that ;p |
| 02:36.15 | Seerah | ofc |
| 02:36.16 | VIad | probably equally addictive, mins the microtransactions |
| 02:36.20 | VIad | minus* |
| 02:36.28 | VIad | and popup spam to buy shit :p |
| 02:37.13 | Seerah | I also like Zookeeper DX, which is currently on my phone for mindless (or not) match 3 entertainment |
| 02:41.00 | smcn | i like world of warcraft, that's a pretty good game |
| 02:42.21 | VIad | :p |
| 02:45.06 | smcn | gn |
| 02:45.09 | VIad | gn |
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| 03:27.21 | Wimpsy | does SetFrameLevel not work if you also use SetParent on a frame |
| 03:29.34 | Neffi | it ought to work, yes |
| 03:30.00 | Semlar | frame levels are one of life's great mysteries |
| 03:30.06 | Wimpsy | so it seems |
| 03:30.50 | Wimpsy | i had two frames behind my minimap to create a border, but they wouldn't hide when uiparent did, so i tried to parent them, and now they seem to be on the same level |
| 03:31.08 | Semlar | parent them to what |
| 03:31.26 | Wimpsy | to UIParent |
| 03:31.31 | Wimpsy | was that where i went wrong |
| 03:32.32 | Semlar | well, you could set the frame strata to background |
| 03:33.03 | Wimpsy | that doesn't seem to work either, they were both on background before, i changed one to low and that... didn't help either |
| 03:33.05 | Wimpsy | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7a1a007fa0c552736790 |
| 03:33.08 | Wimpsy | that's where i am right now |
| 03:34.17 | Wimpsy | and it's inconsistent, sometimes it'll display correctly and sometimes it won't |
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| 03:37.14 | Semlar | what is BACKDROP |
| 03:39.07 | Semlar | it's not defined here |
| 03:39.35 | Wimpsy | nah, i only included the minimap things |
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| 03:39.41 | Wimpsy | it's just a variable that i defined earlier |
| 03:40.14 | Wimpsy | but i think i might have fixed it |
| 03:41.10 | Wimpsy | instead of doing setparent i just did it like |
| 03:41.10 | Wimpsy | CreateFrame("Frame", "minimap_border_1", UIParent) |
| 03:41.18 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: That is what happens when you play a single class consistently. |
| 03:41.27 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz: I hate you so much. |
| 03:41.44 | Wimpsy | and that seems to work... |
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| 03:43.55 | Semlar | minimap and its parent have a frame strata of 'LOW' |
| 03:44.20 | Semlar | so you need to set your strata to background to be behind it |
| 03:46.31 | Semlar | and you need to set your parent before you do that |
| 03:46.48 | Semlar | setting it afterward is probably going to reset its frame level and maybe its strata |
| 03:48.16 | Semlar | you also don't need two frames for this |
| 03:49.02 | Semlar | "backdrop" supports defining a border, but if you can't make your border that way, you can just create a texture on top of your outer frame for the "inner" part |
| 03:50.06 | Wimpsy | oh ya, it makes sense that it'd reset the frame level and strata |
| 03:50.23 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: why can't you just be happy for me :( |
| 03:50.38 | Shirik | did you see this? http://www.twitch.tv/shirikii/c/4766035 |
| 03:50.39 | Wimpsy | and i thought minimap was on medium, that's what /framestack tells me, but they're both on background now |
| 03:51.05 | Wimpsy | and i could probably make the middle one a texture, i did that with my chat panels that use the same border so im not sure why i didnt for my minimap |
| 03:51.10 | Wimpsy | laziness got the best of me as per |
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| 03:51.38 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: Who says I am not happy for you. I'm just saying it is explainable. |
| 03:51.43 | Semlar | either way you'll probably want your "inner" part set as a child of your outer portion |
| 03:52.10 | Semlar | to make sure it shows up above it without messing with anything |
| 03:52.23 | Wimpsy | you're right |
| 03:52.40 | Shirik | also, this is what happens when I try something else: http://www.twitch.tv/shirikii/c/4765711 |
| 03:52.41 | Semlar | that way you also don't need to set the strata or frame levels for it |
| 03:52.46 | Wimpsy | ya exactly |
| 03:52.49 | Wimpsy | that's a good idea |
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| 03:57.00 | Wimpsy | that's a lot more convenient, thanks semlar! |
| 03:57.38 | Semlar | sure, you could also probably reparent the whole minimap cluster if you had a reason to |
| 03:58.33 | Wimpsy | not really, the only real reason im doing this is because im making my UI fade out on afk and i can definitely live with the odd minimap blip being there |
| 03:58.48 | Wimpsy | the half-ass method wins |
| 03:58.59 | Semlar | you can't change the alpha of the minimap blips anyway |
| 03:59.23 | Wimpsy | well then, i'll call it a "feature" |
| 03:59.58 | Semlar | if you try and change the alpha of the minimap it just fades out the map background, unless you're indoors and then it does nothing until it gets to 0 |
| 04:00.46 | Wimpsy | yea, i thought the minimapcluster included the blips |
| 04:01.04 | Semlar | nah the whole minimap is basically rendered by the game engine |
| 04:07.21 | Neffi | Does the engine ignore the alpha channel on the blip texture? |
| 04:07.53 | Semlar | you can't change the alpha of the blips |
| 04:08.00 | Semlar | do you mean if you replaced the texture itself? |
| 04:08.11 | Neffi | yeah, I didn't realize what he was asking to do |
| 04:08.35 | Semlar | if you physically replaced the blip texture you could get transparent blips |
| 04:08.57 | Neffi | Physically replaced? :SetBlipTexture |
| 04:09.01 | Neffi | you can swap them programmatically |
| 04:09.10 | Semlar | yeah, with a new texture file |
| 04:09.20 | Neffi | yea |
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| 04:22.43 | Iriel | The Oculus DK2 is AWESOME |
| 04:22.57 | Iriel | It makes me consider getting Lasik |
| 04:28.22 | Neffi | how is the latency, Iriel? |
| 04:29.20 | Neffi | also I wonder if they're working on gsync/freesync for it |
| 04:34.16 | Gragagrogog | i think its sort of already implemented with their low persistence oled |
| 04:35.11 | Iriel | Neffi: itâs not perfect but itâs really stable (in the demo at least) |
| 04:36.42 | Neffi | It's definitely cool but I'm iffy. I don't know that I can enjoy day to day gaming (or anything) with a head-mounted display on |
| 04:38.08 | Semlar | why would you ever take it off |
| 04:39.05 | Neffi | good point |
| 04:39.10 | Iriel | Have to figure out how to mount the camera |
| 04:39.49 | Semlar | http://youtu.be/RgBeRP4dUGo |
| 04:40.31 | Semlar | (personal helicopter drone named lakitu) |
| 04:40.39 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: Really want to mess with yourself? Attache the camera to the end of a stick, attached you the DK2. |
| 04:40.51 | Thunder_Child | s/you/to/ |
| 04:40.54 | Thunder_Child | .... |
| 04:40.56 | Thunder_Child | damnit |
| 04:42.02 | Thunder_Child | and attach. |
| 04:42.06 | Thunder_Child | I need sleep |
| 04:42.36 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/vv5S2Cv.gif |
| 04:43.29 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: heh - moving the camera while wearing the rift is a bit odd |
| 04:44.27 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: Yea. It's designed to be stable so it's going to throw off your internal balance in relation to the image. |
| 04:45.20 | Thunder_Child | The problem is still immersion, no peripheral vision. |
| 04:54.01 | Dagmar | All of this jabbering is not getting these to market so my money can be spent on them. |
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| 04:56.47 | Thunder_Child | You can already spend money on them |
| 05:01.35 | Iriel | The lateral motion tracking with the camera makes a HUGE difference to the feeling of presence |
| 05:06.19 | Shirik | http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/2c03it/americans_what_would_you_consider_your_greatest/ |
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| 06:26.32 | Dagmar | Thunder_Child: I generally don't pre-order hardware |
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| 06:33.40 | rid_ | top kek Fisker |
| 06:33.46 | rid_ | one cluster node died |
| 06:33.51 | Fisker | :( |
| 06:34.15 | rid_ | Cluster Shared Volume 'Volume2' ('Volume2') has entered a paused state because of '(c000020c)'. All I/O will temporarily be queued until a path to the volume is reestablished. |
| 06:34.20 | rid_ | > Volume2 |
| 06:34.25 | rid_ | :s |
| 06:34.55 | rid_ | investigates |
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| 07:25.21 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 07:25.40 | bluspacecow | CURL Error: curl_56 : http://dist.blizzard.com.edgesuite.net/d3-pod-retail/NA/20813.direct/d3-24641-4D78C4B7698F7F79B3F5FD02049BF58C.mfil : xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx : Recv failure: Connection reset by peer |
| 07:25.53 | bluspacecow | thought beta doesnât use MFIL |
| 07:25.55 | Alram | works fine here |
| 07:25.55 | bluspacecow | wait |
| 07:26.29 | Alram | either your internet is being weird or the cdn node in that area has issues |
| 07:26.35 | bluspacecow | thats retail lol not beta |
| 07:26.55 | bluspacecow | nah no issuse here. got someone whose install is not updating to latest build |
| 07:27.05 | Alram | then tell that person i guess |
| 07:28.41 | Semlar | resets bluspacecow's curls |
| 07:28.45 | bluspacecow | [RemoteContentManager] {WorkerPool:0} Request failed. url=https://nydus.battle.net/App/enUS/client/App/maintenance?targetRegion=US statusCode=0 err=Could not resolve: us.launcher.battle.net (Could not contact DNS servers) |
| 07:29.09 | bluspacecow | [BattlenetAPI] {Main} Failed to connect: error= (3003) connectionId=3 [right after an attempt to connect to login server for Beta / BDA |
| 07:29.11 | Semlar | no domains for you |
| 07:29.17 | bluspacecow | looks like DNS issues |
| 07:29.19 | Alram | how does that even happen |
| 07:29.21 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 07:29.27 | Semlar | you can lose your dns servers |
| 07:29.30 | bluspacecow | iknowrite |
| 07:29.38 | Torhal | CURLs bluspacecow. |
| 07:29.41 | Alram | you have really shitty dns servers then though |
| 07:29.45 | Alram | or a crap isp :v |
| 07:29.47 | bluspacecow | heh |
| 07:29.50 | Semlar | it happens |
| 07:29.53 | bluspacecow | must be |
| 07:30.02 | bluspacecow | âgoogles google open DNS usingâ agaion |
| 07:30.07 | Semlar | they can try google's dns which is like 8.8.8.8 |
| 07:30.22 | bluspacecow | 8.8.4.4 tooo |
| 07:30.27 | Torhal | Alrams bluspacecow with Semlar. |
| 07:30.27 | bluspacecow | i think |
| 07:30.31 | bluspacecow | my dns |
| 07:30.36 | bluspacecow | would be |
| 07:30.36 | Alram | Torhals Torhal with Torhal |
| 07:30.38 | Torhal | You bastard. |
| 07:30.38 | Semlar | 88's torhal |
| 07:30.42 | Alram | eight |
| 07:30.46 | Semlar | wait no that's 86ing |
| 07:30.52 | bluspacecow | Torhal.Long Hair Wow.Fisker.YourMom |
| 07:30.53 | Torhal | Weirdo. |
| 07:32.35 | bluspacecow | XD |
| 07:32.59 | rid_ | hey Torhal |
| 07:33.04 | rid_ | #hey |
| 07:33.19 | Torhal | #DontMakeMeKillYouOnTwitter |
| 07:33.25 | rid_ | :s |
| 07:33.53 | bluspacecow | #SexesTorhalOnTwitter |
| 07:33.57 | bluspacecow | #sohot |
| 07:34.00 | bluspacecow | #omgwat |
| 07:34.06 | Torhal | unfollows bluspacecow. |
| 07:36.14 | rid_ | figured it out Fisker |
| 07:36.20 | Alram | [x] unfollowed [ ] followed |
| 07:36.23 | rid_ | It was a mac-adress confilct |
| 07:36.39 | rid_ | at least I think so hmm |
| 07:36.42 | bluspacecow | imac-address conflict ? |
| 07:36.46 | rid_ | nope bluspacecow |
| 07:36.52 | bluspacecow | âcause mines MyBedRoomDersk |
| 07:36.54 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 07:37.09 | bluspacecow | A sudden OS X update appears |
| 07:37.11 | bluspacecow | BRB |
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| 09:30.05 | rid_ | Fisker: |
| 09:37.26 | karl_w_w | what are those tiny microphones that TV presenters clip on to their clothes called? |
| 09:37.44 | nevcairiel | clip-on mics? |
| 09:39.22 | karl_w_w | maybe |
| 09:40.42 | Semlar | bodypack |
| 09:46.46 | Workfoz | http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005DJOIHE/ :o |
| 09:49.25 | nevcairiel | so lapel mic, because thats where you attach it to? |
| 10:08.34 | karl_w_w | lavalier mic |
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| 11:11.08 | karl_w_w | http://humansarefree.com/2013/12/9-scienctific-facts-prove-theory-of.html honestly, how do people this stupid survive day-to-day life? |
| 11:14.18 | karl_w_w | "The electric force is being ignored by mainstream science. We now see that the observable universe is primarily plasma and "evolves" into "matter" (even atoms are simply interacting charged particles). From matter, comes life and consciousness? Or is it the other way around? The golden number 1.618 follows electrical patterns, such as found in living systems, trees, petals, leaves, animal bodies. Electricity is self-organizing and |
| 11:14.24 | karl_w_w | this needs to be included in the debate on life and how we got here. Tiny flagella motors run from single hydrogen protons, for example. Much more of this needs to be included in our understanding. Life, light and electrical forces are intertwined, and consciousness apparently is connected or dependent upon electrical forces, according to brain scans. The brain follows the same pattern as galactic formations and mycelium, for |
| 11:14.24 | karl_w_w | instance. Check out Thunderbolts.info for more info on Electric Universe theory." |
| 11:18.17 | Workfoz | I... what |
| 11:19.50 | karl_w_w | I read too many comments, not I have to watch tim minchin's storm to chill out |
| 11:28.00 | karl_w_w | throughout history every mystery ever solved has turned out to be... |
| 11:28.03 | karl_w_w | not magic |
| 11:29.28 | jleclanche | google search was down for all of 30 seconds |
| 11:29.31 | jleclanche | fucking scary i tell you |
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| 12:16.39 | VIad | Semlar: I discovered a thing with your math. That your equation is the result of "62.68305 ^ GetMonitorAspectRatio()" |
| 12:17.27 | VIad | meaning that the other variables and math isn't needed as you found the magic number 62.68305 :P |
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| 13:14.52 | Neffi | where did you find this shit, karl_w_w? |
| 13:15.01 | Neffi | it's giving me a headache |
| 13:16.50 | karl_w_w | on the internet Neffi |
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| 13:57.00 | VIad | Semlar: there is progress! :) |
| 13:57.11 | VIad | found a linear equation that fits other aspect ratios |
| 14:04.08 | VIad | Semlar: the minimap icon formula for the dimension is: 32*(Minimap:GetEffectiveScale())-4.8 |
| 14:04.28 | VIad | this way it will show the correct icon size for all UI scales |
| 14:07.15 | VIad | also the formula to fit the icon to appear over the original icon fits well with: 630.754 * GetMonitorAspectRatio() + 439.463 |
| 14:11.25 | VIad | the icon scaling is fine now - but the formula for the location might be wrong on other not so standard aspect ratios |
| 14:12.28 | karl_w_w | 1368x764, the most standard display res |
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| 14:15.30 | VIad | tried it with the different aspect ratios I had available :) |
| 14:15.35 | VIad | and fitted a linear equation to best represent them all |
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| 14:22.55 | VIad | found an error, updating my formula atm |
| 14:23.10 | VIad | hopefully Semlar wakes up soon, as it's closing 8AM in the US :D |
| 14:24.05 | nevcairiel | that depends where in the US |
| 14:24.13 | VIad | right :( |
| 14:24.15 | nevcairiel | its already 10:30 in new york |
| 14:24.27 | VIad | got the irvine time on my click :p |
| 14:24.28 | VIad | clock |
| 14:24.36 | VIad | so it's the earliest in any case! |
| 14:31.05 | karl_w_w | honey, where are my pants? |
| 14:31.32 | VIad | they had to be washed darling |
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| 14:47.27 | VIad | Semlar: final update on the formula for now is to apply this to the vignette xy coordinates: GetMonitorAspectRatio() * (103.965 * GetMonitorAspectRatio() + 312.303) + 677.725 |
| 14:48.01 | VIad | tested it on 1.25, 1.33, 1.56, 1.6, 1.66, 1.77, 1.78 aspect ratios and it works fine |
| 14:48.13 | VIad | i.e. the most common once are covered :P |
| 14:49.17 | VIad | for you that don't know, Semlar worked on the vignettes and mapping them to the minimap. the coordinates returned from the API are not scaled, so we have to scale them ourselves. |
| 14:49.24 | VIad | might be a beta bug, might be intentional, we'll see. |
| 15:11.45 | karl_w_w | is it unusual to have a favourite regular circulation coin? |
| 15:12.19 | karl_w_w | considering I have no interest in coin collecting and the like |
| 15:13.16 | Thunder_Child | What does favourite have anything to do with collecting? |
| 15:14.34 | karl_w_w | there's probably a correlation between interest in coins and having a favourite one of them |
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| 15:27.22 | nevcairiel | I like the one with the highest value |
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| 15:51.12 | Carx | hi @all, i'm currently fixing my addon for wod, has anyone resolved the tga thing in 18612? |
| 15:51.56 | Carx | i changed the tga's to blp's, but no luck so far |
| 15:54.50 | nebula169 | Carx: there is no fix, the game won't load external assets yet |
| 15:56.15 | Carx | oh, tnx for the hint, more luck with a later build.... |
| 16:00.42 | Carx | until that i could use ingame grafx, problem i saw, that exportinterfacefiles is not ready yet, it does not create subdirectories, so i have to take the pathnames from xmls/luas |
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| 16:03.42 | nebula169 | yea, i was extracting the art for the same reason and found that out ;[ |
| 16:04.56 | Carx | for scripts there is tomrus' repository |
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| 16:08.49 | VIad | :D |
| 16:11.28 | Lopeppeppy_ | Fisker, did you sneeze on my UPS delivery guy? His tracking comments are illegible! |
| 16:11.36 | Lopeppeppy_ | Levering er forsinket med én arbejdsdag. |
| 16:11.39 | Fisker | D: |
| 16:11.53 | Fisker | why are they writing in danish? |
| 16:12.04 | Fisker | Just says that delivery is postponed one work day |
| 16:12.37 | Lopeppeppy_ | I guessed as much - it said that in English last night. I am totally confused how it changed languages overnight. :) |
| 16:12.50 | Fisker | oh fun |
| 16:13.20 | Fisker | I've noticed sometimes our package tracker will show the result in english as well instead of danish |
| 16:14.56 | Lopeppeppy_ | I can understand two languages much better than I can one that's not native to my continent. Oh well! Thank you for confirming that it doesn't tell me my package was re-routed to Cthluhu. :) |
| 16:16.57 | Lopeppeppy_ | I would have to wrestle him for it. Which would not be pretty. |
| 16:19.12 | Fisker | No cthulhu is kind of ugly |
| 16:20.31 | Fisker | I should send you a package once Lopeppeppy_ |
| 16:20.46 | Lopeppeppy_ | That would be a hoot, Fisker. I make a decent penpal. |
| 16:20.57 | pompy | lol users: http://pastebin.com/LfkvVV8s |
| 16:21.00 | Fisker | I can't even write things |
| 16:27.46 | Lopeppeppy_ | You can learn. |
| 16:36.27 | karl_w_w | Shirik, please explain the warning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osu! |
| 16:37.05 | Shirik | what warning |
| 16:37.10 | kd3 | warning? there's no ambox on that page |
| 16:37.51 | karl_w_w | the red text on the first line |
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| 16:38.08 | Workfoz | no red text there |
| 16:38.10 | kd3 | do you have something injecting error messages into random web pages? |
| 16:38.18 | karl_w_w | Warning: Display title "<i>osu!</i>" overrides earlier display title "<i>Osu!</i>" |
| 16:38.27 | karl_w_w | oh maybe its twinkle |
| 16:39.06 | karl_w_w | i still dont understand though cos there is only 1 {{DISPLAYTITLE:}} on the page |
| 16:39.15 | kd3 | there's one in the infobox, most likely |
| 16:39.30 | karl_w_w | |title = osu! |
| 16:39.36 | karl_w_w | nothing tells it to be Osu! |
| 16:41.00 | karl_w_w | oh I see, the custom title doesnt work in edit previews |
| 16:41.37 | kd3 | the infobox template calls {{italic title}}, which sets displaytitle |
| 16:48.03 | VIad | how ugly was the formula to convert minimap location ping coordinates to world map coordinates? :P |
| 16:49.29 | VIad | ugh, headache work :p |
| 16:50.00 | Shirik | karl_w_w: I use twinkle and don't see that |
| 16:50.03 | Shirik | I think you have broken something |
| 16:50.21 | Shirik | oh I see it now |
| 16:50.30 | Shirik | replag imo |
| 16:52.12 | karl_w_w | it must just be a bug with the infobox that it capitalizes the title |
| 16:52.41 | karl_w_w | so somebody's corrected it later |
| 16:53.00 | Shirik | there's a feature hidden in wikipedia |
| 16:53.04 | Shirik | trying to remember how to do it |
| 16:53.09 | Shirik | it will tell us the answer |
| 16:55.11 | kd3 | expandtemplate? |
| 16:57.40 | Lopeppeppy_ | I am in package tracking hell! F5. F5. F5! F5F5F5 *&^%!!! |
| 16:58.21 | karl_w_w | maybe they should just patch mediawiki so there aren't so many limitations on page titles |
| 16:58.45 | Shirik | I was thinking of uselang=qqx |
| 16:58.54 | Shirik | but that actually didn't tell me anything |
| 16:59.56 | VIad | Semlar: http://pastebin.com/bBnfhF7X |
| 16:59.59 | Shirik | karl_w_w: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Osu!&diff=618996803&oldid=618995258 |
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| 17:01.31 | karl_w_w | I don't know why it's no longer working :P |
| 17:01.41 | karl_w_w | I mean, no longer complaining |
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| 17:16.43 | Shirik | which uses {{DISPLAYTITLE}} |
| 17:16.46 | Shirik | yeah |
| 17:16.50 | Shirik | kd3 wins :( |
| 17:17.08 | Shirik | I blame replag |
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| 17:19.50 | Semlar | tries to calm vlad down |
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| 17:21.19 | karl_w_w | douses Semlar with kerosene for drama |
| 17:21.38 | Semlar | fire it up |
| 17:21.44 | Shirik | need a light? |
| 17:22.02 | Semlar | let's burn |
| 17:22.23 | Semlar | .. |
| 17:24.03 | Semlar | nebula169: the beta will load fonts, it mostly just doesn't like textures |
| 17:24.38 | Shirik | Semlar: I am sad that nobody else caught on :( |
| 17:25.05 | Semlar | naturally |
| 17:25.23 | Shirik | ha |
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| 17:26.51 | Fisker | What are you even expecting Lopeppeppy_ ? |
| 17:27.04 | Lopeppeppy_ | Two dresses and a $surprise package. |
| 17:27.17 | Fisker | :o |
| 17:27.24 | Fisker | Vacation peppy is vacationing |
| 17:27.59 | Lopeppeppy_ | I need the dresses before vacation, or I have to do laundry while away! Noooooo! |
| 17:28.41 | Fisker | D: |
| 17:28.46 | Fisker | Or reuse old clothing |
| 17:28.50 | Fisker | even worse |
| 17:29.34 | Lopeppeppy_ | Not clothes from the heat of summer, Fisker. Stinky! |
| 17:30.00 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/NOECI0s.gif |
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| 17:46.34 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/tNXwt8I.gif |
| 17:46.57 | Vlad|brb | Semlar: what do you think? :P |
| 17:48.44 | Semlar | are you sure the icon scale isn't 32 * .791 * Minimap:GetEffectiveScale(), i don't think it should have a static number in there |
| 17:49.22 | Vlad|brb | I created a equation by setting the scale up and down and reading the size of the original icon |
| 17:49.43 | Semlar | reading it how |
| 17:59.36 | Lopeppeppy_ | One is delivered! Not the strange Danish one, but still. :) |
| 18:00.21 | Fisker | the strange danish one was actually sent from denmark or? |
| 18:00.57 | Lopeppeppy_ | Oh no. US. |
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| 18:14.31 | VIad | Semlar: I told you can get more solid results, I just needed time to play a little. Though I dislike the fact there is a weird correlation between the aspect ratio and the coordinates. Not sure how else to fix it except to hard code or to sample ALL aspect ratios and create an equation to calculate. |
| 18:15.30 | Maldivia | there has _always_ been a link between the aspect ratio and the UI scale |
| 18:15.33 | Semlar | it's not like the coordinates are new, they've been there since the timeless isle was added |
| 18:16.40 | VIad | they might not be new, but it's odd that the coordinate system isn't the same as the minimap one, i.e. the PingLocation |
| 18:17.00 | VIad | or that they didn't pre-apply the scale variables at least |
| 18:17.11 | Semlar | it's not odd by blizzard standards |
| 18:17.29 | VIad | it's odd because blizzard don't even use those values in their own code |
| 18:17.41 | VIad | someone said blizz don't add stuff they don't need themselves :p |
| 18:17.56 | Semlar | that hasn't been true for a while |
| 18:18.13 | Semlar | there are a lot of api functions that return things that blizzard doesn't use in the interface |
| 18:18.20 | VIad | but if this stays, good news is we could perhaps create a neat logging utility to translate these to world coordinates and map out all the vignette locations - even show them on the world map as a guide :) |
| 18:19.04 | VIad | leaning towards astrolabe or something for the translation of the coordinates PingLocation can understand, and back to world coordinates :p |
| 18:19.08 | Semlar | that was why i tried to figure out the coordinates back on the timeless isle ptr but gave up |
| 18:19.47 | VIad | I basically just went trough all the aspect ratios and mapped out what value fits. |
| 18:19.57 | VIad | and created an algorithm based on that for on the fly calculation |
| 18:20.18 | VIad | but it doesn't cover other aspect ratios, weird once, like multi screen setups |
| 18:20.25 | VIad | so will probably appear weird for those |
| 18:20.41 | Semlar | figuring out it was based purely on your aspect ratio wasn't exactly a straightforward process |
| 18:21.54 | VIad | I would have playd more around the width and height, but ratio would be the second thing to consider in this situation. |
| 18:22.02 | VIad | (width and height of the screen) |
| 18:23.48 | VIad | meh |
| 18:23.54 | VIad | I don't want to translate these to world map :( |
| 18:23.56 | VIad | coordinates* |
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| 18:32.12 | VIad | Semlar: how did you handle your icons when there is an arrow instead of the icon on the minimap? |
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| 18:37.47 | Semlar | i determine whether the icon is out of range based on its distance from the center of the minimap |
| 18:38.09 | Semlar | which is why my calculations can't be off |
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| 18:42.34 | VIad | issue is when it is already outside the arrow is closer than it's maximum range - meaning you must assume it's out of range before it actually becomes an arrow :< |
| 18:46.01 | Semlar | yes? |
| 18:46.23 | Semlar | if they have the minimap zoomed in any closer than max zoom then the vignette is capable of being drawn outside the minimap |
| 18:46.43 | Semlar | you can detect whether it's an arrow by where the icon is placed |
| 18:47.20 | VIad | yeah |
| 18:47.21 | VIad | but I mean |
| 18:47.47 | fewyn | http://iknowwhereyourcatlives.com/ |
| 18:47.55 | fewyn | this is pretty creepy awesome |
| 18:48.04 | VIad | as the icon gets closer to the edge, the arrow will suddenly appear and the icon actually appears at a greater distance than it was when there was no arrow :P |
| 18:48.59 | Semlar | the arrow is always closer than the icon was |
| 18:49.09 | Semlar | not that it matters |
| 18:49.22 | Semlar | you can't get the original coordinates without zooming the map out |
| 18:49.59 | VIad | 1. before http://ss.bool.no/capture_1406659779.png |
| 18:49.59 | VIad | 2. after http://ss.bool.no/capture_1406659793.png |
| 18:50.23 | VIad | when the arrow appears the icon is pushed back closer to the center :P |
| 18:51.00 | Semlar | like i said, the arrow is closer than the icon was |
| 18:51.23 | Semlar | it's at a fixed position on the edge of the minimap |
| 18:52.03 | VIad | yeah - so the issue is you must assume there is an arrow when the distance is equal or greater when the icon is positioned on the arrow (closest to the center) |
| 18:52.17 | VIad | but the side effect is your icon fading out before the arrow actually appears - small wiggle room |
| 18:53.40 | Semlar | it literally doesn't matter whether we know it's an arrow icon or not |
| 18:53.45 | Semlar | i don't know what use that would be |
| 18:53.58 | VIad | hiding our icon when it's an arrow? |
| 18:54.05 | VIad | otherwise it just shows our icon on top of the arrow :P |
| 18:54.14 | Semlar | first of all, i don't need to display my icon |
| 18:54.21 | Semlar | the icon is already on the minimap |
| 18:54.36 | Semlar | MY icon is only so i can be sure i'm lining things up correctly |
| 18:54.49 | VIad | I was adding a button to click to target |
| 18:55.09 | Semlar | your button doesn't need to have a texture |
| 18:55.48 | VIad | atm its just the same icon, can hide it ofc :p |
| 18:56.25 | Semlar | the important question is who in their right mind plays with their minimap zoomed in |
| 18:57.00 | VIad | :p |
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| 18:57.56 | Semlar | if you NEED the exact coordinates of the icon and the map is zoomed in then you could zoom the map out, i don't know how long the vignette takes to update its position |
| 18:59.11 | Semlar | the only thing the arrow does is make it so i can't get the actual distance to the icon |
| 19:00.00 | Semlar | also, i would prefer seeing the rare icon than the stupid arrow because it shows the same arrow regardless of what type of vignette it is |
| 19:00.28 | Semlar | i'm not sure what file the arrow texture is in |
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| 19:02.59 | VIad | would be nice if the icon changed to an arrow - easier to detect this :p |
| 19:03.14 | Semlar | no because then you'd lose what type of vignette it is |
| 19:03.31 | VIad | hmm, can't I v:SetAttribute("type", "target") v:SetAttribute("unit", v.name) instead of making a macro with /target ? |
| 19:03.44 | Semlar | no |
| 19:03.54 | VIad | :< |
| 19:04.27 | Semlar | you also can't move secure frames in combat |
| 19:05.32 | Semlar | so you'll need to hide them |
| 19:05.51 | VIad | yeah |
| 19:06.32 | VIad | would be nice if we could have a condition to automatically disable the secure frame in combat :p |
| 19:06.47 | VIad | i.e. use it, move it around, but it wouldn't act like a secure frame |
| 19:07.19 | Semlar | it doesn't matter, your secure frame doesn't need any visible portions |
| 19:07.51 | Semlar | just make all of your visual stuff insecure and put your secure frame on top of it |
| 19:08.28 | VIad | jupp |
| 19:08.31 | VIad | easiest way to do it |
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| 19:17.02 | VIad | hehe, only getting items with agi or int :P |
| 19:17.06 | VIad | where is the str items :D |
| 19:17.09 | VIad | are* |
| 19:22.48 | VIad | is it normal that the recovering followers spend like 2+ days? |
| 19:22.55 | VIad | like real life days - being unusable? :p |
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| 19:28.31 | Maldivia | recovering? |
| 19:30.21 | VIad | yes |
| 19:30.25 | VIad | failed a mission or something |
| 19:30.31 | VIad | now half my followers say "Recovering" on the list |
| 19:30.34 | VIad | can't use them for ages :( |
| 19:31.45 | jleclanche | Cairenn: ping? |
| 19:33.03 | VIad | jleclanche: pong |
| 19:33.49 | Maldivia | VIad: ehh, I've always been able to use them again, even if they failed |
| 19:34.11 | VIad | yeah until just a couple of days ago |
| 19:34.19 | VIad | since then they have the text "Recovering" and that's that :p |
| 19:35.52 | jleclanche | anyone got their key yet from this week's wave on WoWI? |
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| 19:43.40 | Semlar | jleclanche: when you get it the beta shows up on the dropdown menu above the play button in the bnet launcher |
| 19:44.45 | jleclanche | ya i know |
| 19:50.55 | VIad | too many druids on HS atm |
| 19:51.25 | karl_w_w | http://i.4cdn.org/b/1406662582511.webm that's impressive |
| 19:51.49 | VIad | idd |
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| 20:03.04 | VIad | priest with healing well, not often :D |
| 20:03.14 | VIad | sadly I just spell nuke to face :p |
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| 20:14.26 | Fisker | surprise tackles Lopeppeppy_ |
| 20:14.35 | Lopeppeppy_ | Oh no, help help. |
| 20:16.57 | VIad | surprise tackles Lopeppeppy_ |
| 20:17.11 | Lopeppeppy_ | Kinky. |
| 20:17.47 | VIad | two guys one guy |
| 20:18.16 | Shirik | http://imgur.com/gallery/rny3ELw |
| 20:18.53 | VIad | :D |
| 20:21.49 | VIad | rank 12 one star to go! |
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| 20:25.55 | Fisker | Eww VIad |
| 20:26.06 | VIad | what? |
| 20:26.13 | Fisker | Ew. |
| 20:26.25 | VIad | fisticufs isn't ew |
| 20:27.43 | Fisker | Help Lopeppeppy_ |
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| 20:35.36 | Lopeppeppy_ | Alestane has my proof of Peppy-hood. |
| 20:36.12 | Fisker | Are you robin hood but peppy instead? |
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| 20:48.24 | Mr_Rabies | peps from the rich to give to the poor? |
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| 21:38.31 | Jamash | releasing at 11:59pm is not releasing on Tuesday in any meaningful manner |
| 21:39.58 | VIad | tbh, matchmaking should pair up those that loose and those that win in a row |
| 21:40.15 | VIad | and pair those that are gonna get promoted from a rank below with those that might loose a rank above |
| 21:44.27 | VIad | lol 4 looses in a row -_- |
| 21:44.59 | VIad | matchmaking is weird, sometimes it's going fine, sometimes too good, then suddenly really shitty :p |
| 21:45.13 | VIad | I wanna wait if that buys me a proper matchup vs someone else that is on a loosingstreak |
| 21:46.14 | Jamash | really if you're on a losing streak you should take a break to clear your head |
| 21:46.21 | Jamash | irrespective of matchmaking |
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