| 00:00.44 | Shirik_ | your use of the vararg operator is perplexing foxlit |
| 00:01.15 | Shirik_ | ah I guess the part in the if statement somewhat explains it |
| 00:01.44 | Shirik_ | I don't think this works though |
| 00:02.04 | foxlit | thereâs an assignment operator in the if condition. |
| 00:02.34 | Shirik_ | oh god |
| 00:02.34 | Shirik_ | this is evil |
| 00:02.39 | Shirik_ | ok I get it |
| 00:02.44 | foxlit | and it really should be checking the number of things in â¦, not for nil. |
| 00:03.02 | Nimhfree | basically it is accouting for the parameters meaning different things if there are only two, correct? |
| 00:03.17 | foxlit | yes. |
| 00:03.20 | Fisker | Hey foxlit |
| 00:03.31 | Nimhfree | so this is a case of an optional first parameter [foo], bar, baz |
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| 00:04.20 | foxlit | yes; table defaults to the global environment if not specified. |
| 00:10.53 | Nimhfree | thank you all for explaining about hooksecurefunc and its evil ways. in addition to hooking the global named function I also hook the OnEnter script for anything that is already in |
| 00:10.54 | Nimhfree | local titles = QuestMapFrame.QuestsFrame.Contents.Titles |
| 00:11.03 | Nimhfree | and it now works as expected :-) |
| 00:30.59 | Semlar | what does NPCScan do if it detects two rares at once |
| 00:31.25 | kd3|hate`net | it'll show the first for 1 frame then show the second |
| 00:31.46 | Semlar | okay so it only ever shows one targeting frame |
| 00:31.55 | kd3 | ya |
| 00:32.11 | Semlar | i'm trying to decide how to set up the same thing for my addon |
| 00:32.52 | Semlar | how big of a deal would you say the 3D model is |
| 00:33.06 | Semlar | would it just not be the same without it |
| 00:33.29 | kd3 | 2-3 hotbar slots/side? somewhere in there |
| 00:34.19 | Semlar | i mean if i just popped up a button with the mob's name on it for you to click without the model of it would that make a big difference |
| 00:34.41 | kd3 | yah, the model isn't part of the targetable bit |
| 00:35.05 | kd3 | iirc, the model appears but the button does not if you're in combat when it finds a rare |
| 00:35.11 | Semlar | i can easily implement the targeting macro without keeping a database of rares but if i want to show models for them it's going to be a lot more work |
| 00:36.54 | Semlar | i think for now i'm going to try to avoid maintaining a list of rares to keep the addon simple |
| 00:39.56 | Semlar | i'm not really looking to replace NPCScan but some people have requested the targeting macro and i can actually implement that in the beta |
| 00:43.10 | Torhal | replaces Semlar with a Viginette. |
| 00:43.23 | Semlar | not again! |
| 00:46.35 | foxlit | wow should just steal GW2âs minimap. |
| 00:47.46 | foxlit | (the current one is too small and too round) |
| 00:53.24 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/OSyZ9.jpg i fix |
| 00:55.50 | Semlar | i have now idea what the gw2 map looks like |
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| 00:56.46 | foxlit | http://dulfy.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/gw2-daily-maguuman-events-completer.jpg |
| 00:57.34 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/jIsJ3Pz.jpg i was able to get underground caves and stuff on my map |
| 00:57.40 | foxlit | or maybe http://gamingsf.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/gw362.jpg |
| 00:58.05 | Semlar | so it's resizable |
| 00:58.25 | foxlit | itâs resizable, and terrain stylization looks better than wowâs. |
| 00:58.49 | Semlar | you could draw all your own maps |
| 00:59.13 | Torhal | So helpful. |
| 00:59.32 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/Ingwo.jpg it's not that bad |
| 00:59.52 | Semlar | if you zoom in close it's not great |
| 01:03.35 | Semlar | there's also the problem where the devs have apparently just doodled on minimap textures they don't expect people to view |
| 01:03.57 | Semlar | the ones around deepholm look horrible |
| 01:04.03 | foxlit | minimap zoom is a somewhat awkward balance in WoW. |
| 01:04.54 | foxlit | I think Iâm zoomed out most of the time because I want to see how to get to point X; but that makes it impossible to tell where things that are supposed to be close to me are. |
| 01:05.20 | foxlit | (and mob-type tracking abilities are probably a lost cause â are those actually useful to anyone outside of a battleground?) |
| 01:05.36 | Semlar | rarely |
| 01:05.53 | Semlar | once in a while you might have a reason to track something |
| 01:06.12 | Semlar | until you turn it on and remember how hard it is to find what you're looking for |
| 01:06.58 | Semlar | my minimap is always zoomed all the way out |
| 01:09.14 | p3lim | I used to turn it on to find beasts for my hunter to tame, but that's about it |
| 01:09.40 | p3lim | All I'd use the tracking for today is to find mailboxes or repair vendors |
| 01:10.14 | Semlar | yeah, one of my addons automatically tracks mailboxes when i have unread mail and turns it off when i don't |
| 01:10.53 | Semlar | i think i usually keep repair tracking enabled |
| 01:11.50 | Semlar | humanoid tracking is pretty much exclusively for finding players |
| 01:12.18 | Semlar | i actually removed the other humanoid blips from the texture |
| 01:12.36 | Semlar | so it only shows players on the minimap |
| 01:13.41 | p3lim | I'd like to know how you did that actually |
| 01:13.57 | Semlar | there's a texture file with all the tracking blips on it |
| 01:14.22 | Semlar | and you can just go in and cut the ones you don't want out of it |
| 01:14.34 | Semlar | or change how they look |
| 01:14.51 | p3lim | lol cheap way of doing it, but I guess it works |
| 01:15.06 | Semlar | and then you call Minimap:SetBlipTexture() i think |
| 01:16.13 | Semlar | they'll still show their tooltip when you hover over them on the minimap but it won't be impossible to see a player in a crowd of humanoids |
| 01:17.15 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:18.30 | p3lim | I thought you had some extremely elaborate way of hacking the minimap, not sure if I should be disappointed or not :p |
| 01:18.46 | Semlar | sometimes the simplest solution is the best |
| 01:19.03 | p3lim | mouseover would still be a mess tho |
| 01:19.16 | Semlar | well |
| 01:19.18 | p3lim | if there's lots of ncps around or something |
| 01:20.06 | Semlar | you can actually hook that tooltip and clean it up but i don't think there's really any way to tell whether a name belongs to a player |
| 01:20.36 | Semlar | you could clear out anything that isn't a single name |
| 01:22.51 | Semlar | i had an idea to put a macro button on the minimap so you could target something you were hovering over but i don't know how practical it would be |
| 01:23.22 | Semlar | blips are usually overlapping |
| 01:23.45 | Semlar | so your best bet would probably be a list of things under your mouse to select from |
| 01:28.25 | Semlar | i need to go steal a 3d arrow texture |
| 01:33.08 | Stanzilla | tomtom |
| 01:33.23 | Stanzilla | jnwhiteh loves to get ripped off |
| 01:37.00 | Semlar | he actually has an m2 file in here |
| 01:37.10 | Semlar | can you even load a custom m2 file |
| 01:39.09 | Torhal | You can. |
| 01:39.12 | Torhal | And that's what he did. |
| 01:39.14 | Torhal | :D |
| 01:40.44 | Semlar | does he actually use a model? |
| 01:40.59 | Semlar | i thought he just used a texture |
| 01:41.19 | Torhal | I was pretty sure he used a model. The code will tell. |
| 01:42.12 | Semlar | i don't see model mentioned anywhere |
| 01:45.45 | Semlar | i also don't think i can get this model to load, i just get a companion cube |
| 01:45.53 | p3lim | Are temporary weapon enchants still a thing? |
| 01:53.53 | Stanzilla | no |
| 01:54.08 | Stanzilla | not in WoD |
| 01:54.23 | p3lim | in MoP to be specific |
| 01:54.41 | Semlar | sure |
| 01:54.45 | Semlar | there's windfury and stuff |
| 01:54.46 | Stanzilla | only on shamans I think |
| 01:54.55 | Semlar | poisons? |
| 01:54.57 | Stanzilla | nope |
| 01:54.59 | p3lim | poisons are buffs |
| 01:54.59 | Stanzilla | those are buffs now |
| 01:57.34 | p3lim | so, the shaman buffs are gone in WoD? |
| 01:57.52 | Shirik_ | poisons were the worst |
| 01:58.00 | Shirik_ | I didn't even play a rogue and I felt that to be true |
| 01:58.24 | p3lim | Was awesome back in the days when it lasted only like 5 or 10 minutes, and you had to craft the poison yourself :D |
| 01:58.54 | Shirik_ | oh I didn't realize that wasn't how it still was |
| 01:59.15 | Semlar | at one point they made it so you could purchase the poison |
| 01:59.29 | Semlar | and then they made them last like an hour |
| 01:59.56 | p3lim | they removed the crafting part in TBC, and they removed the poisons as weapon enchants in cata (became a self-applied buff) |
| 01:59.57 | p3lim | afaik |
| 02:00.10 | Semlar | there were like a million different poisons, it was ridiculous |
| 02:00.25 | Semlar | there'd be like ten ranks of the same thing |
| 02:01.07 | p3lim | even skillevels too, like Apprentice, Expert, Artisan and Master, as with every other profession |
| 02:01.26 | Semlar | yeah you had to level your poisons |
| 02:01.29 | p3lim | and you'd have to skill it up to make better ones |
| 02:01.30 | p3lim | :D |
| 02:02.35 | p3lim | The poison items only stacked in 5 too |
| 02:02.56 | p3lim | And they had charges, so you'd have to sometimes reapply instant poison mid-fight |
| 02:03.08 | Shirik_ | the only rogue I made was like |
| 02:03.16 | Shirik_ | an extremely long time ago, and only to level 20 |
| 02:03.21 | Shirik_ | or so |
| 02:03.27 | Shirik_ | I think it was maybe 25 |
| 02:03.30 | p3lim | my main characters for 9 years we rogue and druid |
| 02:03.38 | p3lim | were* |
| 02:03.58 | Shirik_ | after a while I realized I had no idea why I was leveling a rogue because I wanted to heal |
| 02:04.00 | p3lim | in TBC I had two rogues at 70 even :p |
| 02:04.38 | Semlar | well two rogues are better than one |
| 02:05.25 | Shirik_ | omg |
| 02:05.31 | Shirik_ | tesla is making a $35000 car |
| 02:05.34 | Shirik_ | I could totally buy that |
| 02:06.10 | Semlar | you should buy me one |
| 02:11.13 | Nimhfree | while you are buying Teslas for people, I will take one tooâ¦please in the color black |
| 02:11.23 | Shirik_ | fun fact of the day |
| 02:11.43 | Shirik_ | excluding Tesla, when is the last time a car manufacturer has been started, from the ground up, that is still with us today? |
| 02:11.50 | Shirik_ | answer: 1924 |
| 02:15.18 | Gethe | who is that ford? idk car history |
| 02:21.33 | Nimhfree | what about lamborghini? or does that not count because it was bought out? |
| 02:22.38 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure volkswagen is newer than that |
| 02:24.39 | Semlar | so is honda |
| 02:27.12 | Arrowmaster | $35000 is higher than i was expecting, would be better at $29000 or lower |
| 02:27.40 | Semlar | resale value factors into it a lot |
| 02:28.05 | Arrowmaster | are they offering the buy back that they do on the model s |
| 02:38.14 | Ressy | oh geez. https://twitter.com/Elvinelol/status/491039636039663617 |
| 02:38.56 | Shirik_ | Arrowmaster: let's be honest, it's still a luxury car |
| 02:39.13 | Shirik_ | smacks Ressy for not marking that nsfw |
| 02:39.32 | Ressy | um.. sry? |
| 02:39.48 | Gnarfoz | "Starting Monday, FiOS will roll out symmetrical upload speeds for its customers, all the way up to those with the top speed of 500 Mbps." o_o |
| 02:40.25 | Shirik_ | woah |
| 02:40.32 | Shirik_ | what |
| 02:41.28 | Nimhfree | finally people starting to hop onto the symmetric bandwagon. i am so used to my 25MB symmetric I hate travelling places with no upload speeds |
| 02:42.01 | tz | max I can get is 4Mb/1Mb! :D |
| 02:42.05 | Semlar | i have 1mbps up |
| 02:42.58 | Shirik_ | I have 5 mbps up and I'm at the top tier of my service :( |
| 02:43.03 | Ressy | ouch |
| 02:43.06 | Shirik_ | fortunately that's about what I need |
| 02:43.08 | Shirik_ | so it's good enough |
| 02:43.09 | Shirik_ | but still |
| 02:43.22 | Semlar | i takes forever to upload something to youtube |
| 02:43.33 | Shirik_ | I'm more concerned with streaming |
| 02:43.37 | Nimhfree | the max I can get is 1GB symmetric but that costs $150/month and I do not want to pay that |
| 02:43.41 | Shirik_ | I need about 3 Mbps |
| 02:43.53 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure i don't have the bandwidth to stream |
| 02:43.57 | Gnarfoz | I'd consider paying for that, but it's not available here :D |
| 02:44.12 | Shirik_ | I'd probably pay it |
| 02:44.20 | Shirik_ | but my company would cover most of the costs |
| 02:44.21 | Shirik_ | so |
| 02:44.32 | Ressy | I'm on 35/3. Rogers does up to 250/20 on DOCSIS 3, but requires the new 24x8 channel Hitron modems. Only ISP in North America using them/requiring them. |
| 02:44.43 | Shirik_ | I get up to $100 per month credit for my internet costs |
| 02:45.03 | Shirik_ | oh wow I only have 4 channels o.o |
| 02:45.13 | Shirik_ | I actually forced my neighborhood to be rewired because of it |
| 02:45.21 | Gnarfoz | sure |
| 02:45.25 | Shirik_ | apparently I was their first customer using it, and the cables couldn't support it |
| 02:45.29 | Nimhfree | I wish I got $100/month for Internet, I would get 1GBâ¦no idea how I would use all of it, but having it must feel good :-) |
| 02:45.32 | Ressy | ahh. Node split. |
| 02:45.34 | Shirik_ | so I would get like 50% packet loss |
| 02:46.02 | Ressy | Rogers did node splits everywhere, and went from 4 upstream channels to 3, but 2 of the 3 are double the capacity before.. |
| 02:46.15 | Shirik_ | I still only have 1 upstream channel though :( |
| 02:46.27 | Nimhfree | is that Rogers as in Canada? |
| 02:46.30 | Ressy | Yeah |
| 02:46.39 | Ressy | I'm on a wholesaler via Rogers. |
| 02:47.04 | Nimhfree | which part of Canada? |
| 02:47.06 | Ressy | Rogers won't do anything more than 6/.5 on a DOCSIS 2 modem. Anything higher requires a DOCSIS 3. |
| 02:47.08 | Ressy | I'm in Toronto |
| 02:48.04 | Nimhfree | I am not familiar with modems because my ISP provides fibre to the house and their ONU has an output that is Ethernet. I just plug that into my switch and away I go |
| 02:48.46 | Gnarfoz | GPON ftw Nimhfree |
| 02:49.20 | Ressy | must be nice. Rogers put 2 more full spools of fiber into the ground in front of my building a few weeks back.. Curious if they're planning anything for the buildings here. |
| 02:49.55 | Gnarfoz | isn't Rogers one of those TV/Cable operators |
| 02:50.04 | Cairenn | Yes >< |
| 02:50.09 | Ressy | yeah. But they're also doing FTTH in some areas. |
| 02:50.16 | Gnarfoz | so how likely is that? they probably just moved their fiber closer to you, you'll never get it from them, though |
| 02:50.17 | Ressy | heh.. Cairenn, you're with Robbers huh |
| 02:50.17 | Cairenn | We have three choices up here: Rogers, Bell or Shaw |
| 02:50.25 | Shirik_ | you have choices |
| 02:50.28 | Ressy | And Telus. |
| 02:50.36 | Ressy | and Eastlink, MTS Allstream.. |
| 02:50.37 | Shirik_ | I wish we had choices |
| 02:50.41 | Ressy | depending where you're at. |
| 02:50.53 | Ressy | COuld go Wholesale Cairenn.. Can I convert you to Teksavvy? :P |
| 02:50.54 | Shirik_ | tbh if we had choices we probably would have much better service |
| 02:51.07 | Nimhfree | I imagine Toronot has lots of choices, but maybe Yellowknife doesn't |
| 02:51.28 | Ressy | When I first started filing with the CRTC over wholesale speeds, our best speed was 25/1, in Toronto. Its now 250/20 |
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| 02:51.58 | Ressy | In just a few years, wholesale has forced our ISPs to provide better, faster service. |
| 02:52.11 | Shirik_ | want to see something absurd? http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000000461 |
| 03:08.21 | Dagmar | THe year isn't over yet |
| 03:08.35 | Shirik_ | oh I was more referring to the fact that they spent 20 million last year |
| 03:09.17 | Dagmar | How *else* do you think you stay a monopoly while giving third-world service and a universal reputation for sodomizing customers with a rusty piece of rebar? |
| 03:09.21 | Shirik_ | if they had just put that 20 million into customer service they might actually be able to retain some customers |
| 03:09.38 | Dagmar | No, if theyd put it into _infrastructure_ they might have gotten somewhere |
| 03:10.17 | Dagmar | ...but clearly it's cheaper to bribe politicians than it is to actually upgrade infrastructure. We need to raise their taxes. |
| 03:13.01 | Shirik_ | you know that if they raise taxes they'll just pass it on to cusotmers |
| 03:13.18 | Shirik_ | but no |
| 03:13.24 | Shirik_ | net neutrality will KILL THEIR BUSINESS |
| 03:17.05 | Dagmar | I would prefer to kill their buisness the old fashioned way. |
| 03:17.11 | Dagmar | ...with pitchforks and torches. |
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| 03:17.28 | Henk_ | Hey, is it possible to rename frames? |
| 03:17.33 | Henk_ | After they are created |
| 03:17.43 | Neffi | no |
| 03:17.58 | Neffi | you can, however, change the global which refers to them |
| 03:19.01 | Henk_ | The addon kgpanels gives the frames it creates diferent names each reload so another addon I use (Kong) gets really confused |
| 03:19.34 | Neffi | I believe there's some concrete way of getting the pointer to a kgPanels frame |
| 03:19.39 | Neffi | I just can't recall |
| 03:19.51 | Henk_ | So I thought I would just OnLoad change it to a name I set |
| 03:20.41 | Neffi | You can do something like `MyGlobalFrameName = self` on its onload and then access MyGlobalFrameName |
| 03:21.03 | Henk_ | Do I need var infront of that? |
| 03:21.29 | Neffi | no |
| 03:21.44 | Neffi | In Lua, variables dont need to be initialized, and are global by default |
| 03:22.50 | Henk_ | Kong is completely Mouse based so I need to create a temporary frame with the same name to edit settings, how do I do this? |
| 03:23.30 | Neffi | That doesnt sound right |
| 03:23.33 | Semlar | nope |
| 03:23.53 | Neffi | ask Semlar. i have no idea what Kong is |
| 03:24.13 | Semlar | y u do dis neffi |
| 03:24.37 | Neffi | because im kinda drunk |
| 03:25.15 | Neffi | Semlar: http://youtu.be/eM213aMKTHg |
| 03:25.51 | Semlar | neffi http://youtu.be/4v1zuIYNoFw |
| 03:27.15 | Henk_ | I'm at a dead end, |
| 03:27.18 | Neffi | Semlar: yes |
| 03:27.40 | Henk_ | There was a post about this on MMO-champion with 0 replise |
| 03:28.01 | Semlar | if kong is moving frames based on their name and kgpanels doesn't give frames static names then i don't see how they're compatible |
| 03:28.32 | Semlar | hiding frames, whatever |
| 03:28.46 | Neffi | did you try my solution of giving it a static global reference in the OnLoad, Henk_? |
| 03:29.03 | Henk_ | Neffi, I cant use that with Kong |
| 03:29.23 | Neffi | Try reloading before feeding Kong the new name |
| 03:29.31 | Neffi | The script doesnt execute right away iirc |
| 03:29.46 | Henk_ | Neffi it does, and this is the kong config http://a.pomf.se/fbraje.jpg |
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| 03:31.18 | Neffi | Ah, it's doing :GetName(). well you can hack at Kong's code to solve it, or you can accept that it's not compatible |
| 03:31.36 | Semlar | you could overload the GetName function on the frame |
| 03:32.17 | Neffi | oh yah |
| 03:32.34 | Henk_ | But I don't know Mandarin or Voodo |
| 03:32.37 | Neffi | OnLoad: myGlobalName = self; self.GetName = function() return "myGlobalName" end |
| 03:33.56 | Henk_ | Neffi you are amazing! |
| 03:34.03 | Henk_ | It worked! Thank you! |
| 03:34.06 | Semlar | hey i'm amazing too |
| 03:34.15 | Semlar | don't forget that |
| 03:34.28 | Henk_ | I wont :) |
| 03:35.03 | Neffi | Semlar came up with the idea. So if you decide to donate millions, I guess he gets half |
| 03:35.05 | Semlar | neffi i figured out how to translate the coordinates for vignettes |
| 03:35.16 | Neffi | awesome, semlar |
| 03:35.18 | Semlar | http://pastebin.com/yFr6wzjV |
| 03:35.43 | Semlar | so now i can make arrows pointing to them and get the distance to it |
| 03:35.53 | Neffi | so many magic numbers on line 13 |
| 03:35.57 | Semlar | yeah don't even |
| 03:36.22 | Semlar | it took me a little while to write that |
| 03:36.41 | Henk_ | Anyone wanna explain Vignettes in a sentence? |
| 03:36.49 | Semlar | rare mob icons on the minimap |
| 03:37.22 | Henk_ | ok :) |
| 03:37.39 | Semlar | they're sort of broken on live but they fixed that in the beta |
| 03:37.50 | Semlar | so now i can make my addon a lot better |
| 03:39.00 | Torhal | Line 13 best line. |
| 03:39.13 | Semlar | it's an important line |
| 03:39.19 | Torhal | That works with 2.4.3 WoW, right Semlar? |
| 03:39.27 | Semlar | psh yeah right |
| 03:39.30 | Torhal | :D |
| 03:40.07 | Semlar | i need my beta access so i can play with it |
| 03:41.27 | Semlar | also, i have no idea why this number is based on your aspect ratio |
| 03:41.30 | Semlar | but it is |
| 03:42.35 | Henk_ | I guess you alread signed up on the WowInterface giveaway |
| 03:42.43 | Semlar | yeah |
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| 03:46.18 | Henk_ | So, what do you guys think? http://a.pomf.se/zswsya.jpg |
| 03:47.51 | Semlar | it's clean, but how do you know who you're targeting |
| 03:48.55 | Henk_ | The guy I clicked on. |
| 03:48.56 | Henk_ | hehe |
| 03:49.29 | Nimhfree | does anyone know if Blizzard has done anything with BLP textures? My icons are appearing not as icons but as squares of color on the world map |
| 03:49.29 | Henk_ | But I use the tooltip for name and other info |
| 03:49.44 | Semlar | i don't think we can load custom textures on the beta right now |
| 03:50.03 | Nimhfree | oh, ok |
| 03:50.06 | Semlar | what about when you're tabbing henk |
| 03:50.33 | Semlar | do you do any pve? |
| 03:51.32 | Semlar | this could actually be solved with some nice nameplates |
| 03:51.57 | Henk_ | I use TidyPlates but they are way to messy to fit with the rest of the UI. |
| 03:52.09 | Henk_ | I really like the Dot Times though |
| 03:52.31 | Henk_ | And I mostly look at the nameplates instead of the target fra,e |
| 03:52.34 | Henk_ | frame* |
| 03:52.37 | Semlar | well my nameplates are dead sexy but don't support debuffs |
| 03:52.51 | Semlar | or configurations |
| 03:52.59 | Henk_ | :P |
| 03:54.02 | Henk_ | Its really hand for multi dot:ing http://a.pomf.se/llbffx.jpg |
| 03:54.21 | Henk_ | You should add it to yours |
| 03:54.40 | Kraps | !ping |
| 03:54.41 | Semlar | well i started to but it was a pain so i stopped |
| 03:54.44 | Kraps | ~ping |
| 03:54.44 | purl | ~pong |
| 03:55.39 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:56.46 | Henk_ | That is really really cool |
| 03:57.01 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:57.27 | Henk_ | haha wow, that is really fancy |
| 03:57.57 | Henk_ | I would love to try it out |
| 03:58.58 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:59.15 | Semlar | it doesn't play nice with other nameplate addons though |
| 04:01.09 | Semlar | it rescales the nameplates so they have a smaller clickable area and that really messes with other addons that try to attach to the nameplate |
| 04:01.11 | Henk_ | No nameplate addons get along |
| 04:01.16 | Semlar | exactly! |
| 04:03.25 | Henk_ | I dont get a percent like in the screenshot |
| 04:03.38 | Semlar | it only shows the number if they're missing any health |
| 04:03.54 | Semlar | if you don't see the name either you probably don't have nameplates shown for that type |
| 04:03.55 | Henk_ | oh, I was trying on Dummies |
| 04:04.18 | Henk_ | I really like the focus marking actually |
| 04:05.17 | Semlar | they actually show your health in the middle of the screen so if you don't want it doing that you can take playerframe.lua out of the toc file |
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| 04:07.41 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:07.59 | Semlar | don't mind the interface |
| 04:08.21 | p3lim | arrows are assists ye? |
| 04:08.30 | Semlar | arrows show target info |
| 04:09.50 | Semlar | this looks like it was before i added the focus target stuff too |
| 04:11.42 | Semlar | yeah this video is like 5 months old |
| 04:13.14 | Semlar | i would die even more often than i already do if i didn't have my health in the middle of my screen |
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| 04:26.05 | Mr_Rabies | i installed all the nameplate addons and now my monitor has a nameplate with Samsung over it |
| 04:26.29 | Semlar | ALL THE NAMEPLATES |
| 04:28.24 | Kesava | yes |
| 04:28.36 | Semlar | you can't just install ALL the nameplates |
| 04:33.27 | Stanzilla | pretty sure Kesava has a highlight on "Nameplates" :D |
| 04:35.04 | Semlar | nameplatesnameplatesnameplates |
| 04:35.45 | Semlar | is that how you summon them |
| 04:36.15 | Henk_ | After playing a BG with Semlars I have to say its really good, I love the arrows. |
| 04:37.16 | Semlar | i don't ever do any pvp so i'm not sure how well it differentiates between friendly and enemy players |
| 04:37.37 | Semlar | i should do something to make it more obvious |
| 04:37.43 | Henk_ | Yeah |
| 04:37.53 | Henk_ | I would like a black list aswell |
| 04:38.07 | Henk_ | So I can hide totems and some pets |
| 04:38.19 | Henk_ | like spirit wolves |
| 04:38.29 | Semlar | pets are something you can hide in the blizzard settings |
| 04:38.35 | Semlar | unless you only want to turn some of them off |
| 04:39.00 | Semlar | and really you'd just be hiding their name, you'd still be able to click on them |
| 04:39.10 | Semlar | if i added a blacklist |
| 04:39.41 | Henk_ | Yeah but I would like Healing Totems to still have a name |
| 04:39.49 | Henk_ | and Earth Bind Totems |
| 04:41.10 | Henk_ | oh well, I have to go to sleep its almost 7 am. Thanks for the help and nameplate addon. |
| 04:41.15 | Semlar | sure |
| 04:41.31 | Semlar | it wouldn't be very hard to hide them based on name |
| 04:41.44 | Semlar | if that's what you want, i could probably add a table and you could just fill it in |
| 04:42.07 | Henk_ | Yeah that would be nice |
| 04:42.34 | Henk_ | Good morning everyone. |
| 05:02.05 | Kesava | and you have a highlight on me |
| 05:02.09 | Kesava | just saying anything |
| 05:02.21 | Kesava | useful |
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| 05:02.34 | Semlar | pounces on kesava |
| 05:02.42 | Neffi | hey semlar, are you in wow? |
| 05:02.54 | Semlar | i like to think we're all a little in wow |
| 05:03.24 | Semlar | what do you need |
| 05:03.51 | Neffi | Tell me what this prints, but only if you're not doing something important: /dump date('!%s',1) |
| 05:04.11 | Semlar | but everything i do is important! |
| 05:04.20 | Semlar | date format is too long |
| 05:04.26 | Neffi | ah, cool |
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| 06:39.07 | p3lim | Anyone on the beta mind running this and give me the returns? /dump GetSpellInfo(689) |
| 06:41.50 | Stanzilla | p3lim: http://paste2.org/zm4npEE4 |
| 06:41.59 | p3lim | thanks |
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| 07:13.38 | mitch0 | p3lim: are the api changes up on wowpedia already? can't seem to find them :( |
| 07:14.10 | p3lim | I don't post on wowpedia |
| 07:14.28 | mitch0 | hm. too bad ;) |
| 07:14.33 | p3lim | And the api changes are not updated until stuff goes live |
| 07:16.46 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49448 and http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=153 have a bunch of stuff. BTW, thanks p3lim for all the stuff you've been adding to the forum |
| 07:18.27 | p3lim | Cairenn: np |
| 07:18.33 | Cairenn | :) |
| 07:19.12 | p3lim | wowi should get a wiki for API ;) |
| 07:20.14 | p3lim | more traffic from developers too |
| 07:23.15 | Semlar | noo i think we should keep the number of sources of information to a minimum |
| 07:25.39 | p3lim | I haven't used wowpedia much, I used wowwiki before it was deprecated, then wowprogramming (which is quickly getting OOD these days) |
| 07:25.52 | Neffi | protip: uses wowpedia |
| 07:26.31 | Neffi | -s* |
| 07:27.38 | Semlar | well all of those sites can be updated by anyone |
| 07:27.59 | Semlar | so it's up to the community what gets supported |
| 07:31.14 | nevcairiel | Yeah we definitely don't need a new page |
| 07:31.25 | nevcairiel | Focus resources on updating one |
| 07:32.54 | p3lim | wowprogramming is really restrictive though, you can't add, flag, group or regroup anything there without an admin doing it for you |
| 07:34.34 | Neffi | p3lim: you're trying really hard to ignore wowpedia D: |
| 07:34.55 | p3lim | been using wowprogramming ever since wowwiki, that's like 3 years if not more :p |
| 07:36.59 | nevcairiel | If you want to actively maintain wow programming more, talk to jnwhiteh, maybe he can change some of the access things or just give you access |
| 07:37.31 | p3lim | or just start to use wowpedia more, as it's more up to date and complete :p |
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| 07:38.33 | nevcairiel | The problem I have with wowpedia is that its really hard to find stuff on there. Google ranks it pretty low still |
| 07:38.57 | bluspacecow | almost feels like the old alta vista search |
| 07:39.05 | Semlar | it also thinks wowpedia is basically an alias for wowwiki |
| 07:39.16 | Semlar | when you try to search it |
| 07:39.19 | bluspacecow | where if you didnât know the exact search terms to get the results you find jack s |
| 07:39.31 | nevcairiel | That's why it's ranked so low semlar |
| 07:39.38 | bluspacecow | ie no fuzzy logic in the searches |
| 07:40.00 | bluspacecow | Cairenn: http://imgur.com/gallery/OOdnFrF <ââââââ silly dog |
| 07:40.21 | Cairenn | awwwww :( |
| 07:53.05 | Gethe | i use google site: search for wowpedia |
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| 08:06.39 | nevcairiel | I like just using main google without any site: stuff with the keywords, and wowpedia is just extremely low on that list |
| 08:07.14 | Fisker | I like nevcairiel |
| 08:07.22 | nevcairiel | Me too |
| 08:10.54 | Fisker | i like you better |
| 08:11.49 | nevcairiel | Should come visit me in the hospital then, I'm le bored |
| 08:12.09 | Shirik | hospital? |
| 08:14.37 | Fisker | what hospital are you on nevcairiel ? |
| 08:15.28 | nevcairiel | I broke my foot, had to be surgically readjusted |
| 08:17.00 | Fisker | :( |
| 08:17.09 | nevcairiel | http://www.d-k-h.de this one fisker |
| 08:17.52 | nevcairiel | Hope they let me out soon though |
| 08:18.15 | Fisker | 250km :( |
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| 08:20.54 | Shirik_ | add to the list of things I've broken in Quassel |
| 08:20.56 | Fisker | You're so far far far away nevcairiel |
| 08:21.05 | Shirik_ | desktop can connect to core, laptop can't, gets "connection refused" |
| 08:21.10 | Shirik_ | restart quassel client, works fine |
| 08:21.23 | Fisker | owned :( |
| 08:22.06 | rid_ | :( |
| 08:22.10 | Shirik_ | some day I'm going to make a quassel client |
| 08:22.12 | p3lim | I ditched quassel for hexchat recently |
| 08:22.16 | p3lim | best decision ever |
| 08:22.17 | Shirik_ | and it's not going to fall apart every 5 seconds |
| 08:22.23 | rid_ | irssi > |
| 08:22.24 | Shirik_ | does it have a client-server model? |
| 08:22.28 | Fisker | no Shirik_ |
| 08:22.29 | Fisker | but Shirik_ |
| 08:22.40 | Fisker | just start developing for quassel |
| 08:22.53 | Shirik_ | I'm pretty sure I hate quassel too much to be of use |
| 08:22.59 | Fisker | :( |
| 08:23.02 | Fisker | But I love you |
| 08:23.11 | p3lim | Shirik_: what do you mean with a client-server model? |
| 08:23.17 | nevcairiel | You must be doing weird things shirik, I never have problems |
| 08:23.18 | nevcairiel | Like, using a mac |
| 08:23.21 | Shirik_ | I mean there is a server, and there is a client |
| 08:23.32 | Shirik_ | the server is actually what connects to irc |
| 08:23.36 | Shirik_ | the client connects to the server |
| 08:23.58 | p3lim | oh I wouldn't know |
| 08:24.32 | nevcairiel | In any case there are plans for a new quassel protocol, which would make third party clients much easier |
| 08:24.33 | Shirik_ | well it seems that if you don't know, it wouldn't have a client-server model |
| 08:24.47 | Stanzilla | bnc + anyclient |
| 08:24.48 | Shirik_ | nevcairiel: I don't understand why changing the protocol would make third party clients easier |
| 08:24.57 | Shirik_ | I mean, a protocol is a protocol |
| 08:25.02 | Shirik_ | just follow it |
| 08:25.13 | nevcairiel | Because right now it's not really an explicit protocol |
| 08:25.27 | Shirik_ | oh so it's more hacks? |
| 08:25.30 | Shirik_ | surprise surprise |
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| 08:26.25 | nevcairiel | It serializes Qt objects and sends those, basically it keeps Qt objects in sync over a network connection |
| 08:26.26 | nevcairiel | It seems to work quite decently, as long as you use Qt |
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| 08:26.43 | Shirik_ | oh wow |
| 08:27.25 | nevcairiel | They started with this as a proof of concept, but because it worked quite nicely it survived until now |
| 08:28.22 | nevcairiel | Qts serialization format isn't too bad, like some third party things exist, but its unnecessarily complex to do a bunch of things |
| 08:28.22 | Shirik_ | sounds like every proof of concept ever |
| 08:28.33 | sb | "there are plans" sounds like "we are going to implement ipv6 in teamspeak right after final release!" :D |
| 08:28.40 | Shirik_ | CEO: Can you make a proof of concept for <some crazy contraption> |
| 08:28.43 | Shirik_ | Engineer: OK done |
| 08:28.46 | Shirik_ | CEO: OK ship it |
| 08:28.50 | Shirik_ | Engineer: wat? |
| 08:28.51 | Fisker | hey shri |
| 08:28.53 | Fisker | damnit |
| 08:28.54 | Fisker | hey Shirik_ |
| 08:28.59 | Shirik_ | hey Fisker |
| 08:29.05 | Fisker | Who's the ceo of quassel? |
| 08:29.12 | Shirik_ | me |
| 08:29.17 | rid_ | ship it! |
| 08:29.40 | nevcairiel | The main dev of quassel is quite reasonable, but always low on time |
| 08:29.51 | Shirik_ | sounds like me |
| 08:30.22 | sb | sounds like every dev |
| 08:31.07 | Stanzilla | sounds not like me |
| 08:31.37 | Semlar | i'm mostly just lazy |
| 08:31.44 | sb | Semlar: sounds like Stanzilla |
| 08:32.00 | Stanzilla | indeed |
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| 12:12.10 | Kalroth | http://www.techpowerup.com/203315/western-digital-introduces-6-tb-wd-red-hard-drive.html woot, time to upgrade my 2TB array! |
| 12:14.56 | Alram | i need some new space to store all Warlords stuff |
| 12:15.15 | Alram | or WoW stuff in general |
| 12:16.32 | Alram | 1.07TB :( |
| 12:17.55 | Stanzilla | I'm screwed anyway, if I ever build a new RAID, I need some place to move the files in between |
| 12:17.58 | Stanzilla | that will be expensive |
| 12:18.31 | Alram | WD Red is just for storage right, not exactly for expecting performance |
| 12:18.51 | Stanzilla | it's for NAS |
| 12:18.56 | Fisker | pls Kalroth |
| 12:18.59 | Fisker | 8TB is the way to go |
| 12:19.24 | Workfoz | go buy He6 drives |
| 12:19.24 | Workfoz | ftw |
| 12:19.32 | Alram | getting close to actually needing a NAS |
| 12:19.54 | Alram | a proper one, not one running via sambad on my intel nuc |
| 12:19.57 | Workfoz | Stanzilla: same :D although I could split up my 4 RAID 1 arrays :D |
| 12:19.57 | karl_w_w | yeah I've wondered what on earth I'll do when I fill my nas |
| 12:20.01 | Fisker | Ideal for medium to large business environments, the new WD Red Pro line of NAS hard drives supports eight to 16 bay NAS systems. The enhanced design offers reliable, high performance storage powered by NASware 3.0. By introducing the WD Red Pro, WD now has a full portfolio NAS storage solution with the WD Red family (WD Red and WD Red Pro) for both consumer and business NAS solutions. |
| 12:20.10 | Fisker | Why should my harddrive care about how many other harddrives I have? :( |
| 12:20.33 | Workfoz | Stanzilla: and FlexRaid lets you convert to FlexRaid in-place, too |
| 12:20.49 | Workfoz | Fisker: vibration |
| 12:20.59 | Workfoz | also, marketing department ^^ |
| 12:21.31 | Fisker | That does not seem like the hardrive's problem Workfoz |
| 12:21.36 | Workfoz | what |
| 12:21.38 | Workfoz | sure it is |
| 12:21.44 | Workfoz | different drives, different tolerances |
| 12:22.21 | Workfoz | there's more than just "because we say so" reasons to not put desktop drives into "enterprise" storage systems ^^ |
| 12:22.40 | Workfoz | although depending on your willingness to take risks, you might be able to discard them ;> |
| 12:22.43 | Fisker | Oh I would never put that in a real enterprise storage system |
| 12:22.51 | Fisker | I'm just not sure why WD has any say in it |
| 12:22.55 | Workfoz | well, 16 drives in an enclosure gets pretty close ^^ |
| 12:22.59 | Workfoz | they don't |
| 12:23.12 | Workfoz | but they certainly can limit their warranties |
| 12:23.19 | Fisker | Which means they have a say in it |
| 12:23.42 | Workfoz | so are you now sure why they do? ^^ |
| 12:23.45 | Alram | what if i have a 5 bay NAS system |
| 12:23.52 | Alram | uh, 4 bay |
| 12:23.57 | Fisker | then no problem Alram ? |
| 12:23.59 | Workfoz | 5 also exists, don't fret |
| 12:24.02 | Alram | it says eight to 16 |
| 12:24.13 | Fisker | lol |
| 12:24.14 | Workfoz | obviously at least gotta have 8 |
| 12:24.20 | Workfoz | :D |
| 12:24.27 | Fisker | 300⬠though |
| 12:24.34 | Fisker | but if the 4TB ones goes down in price |
| 12:24.36 | Fisker | mmm |
| 12:24.58 | Workfoz | 3 TB still sweet spot |
| 12:25.25 | Fisker | Doesn't matter though |
| 12:25.25 | Workfoz | (not by much, but 3 TB is still the best) |
| 12:25.27 | Fisker | I have no funds |
| 12:25.37 | Workfoz | hehe |
| 12:25.58 | Workfoz | someone feed me |
| 12:26.07 | Fisker | http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/node-series/node-804 |
| 12:26.12 | Fisker | Really want one of these fuckers to fill out |
| 12:26.55 | Workfoz | dumb design |
| 12:27.00 | Alram | need a NAS that can store a lot of shit and has hella fast connectors |
| 12:27.06 | Workfoz | space where the PSU is could be used for another 8 drives! :D |
| 12:27.12 | Alram | maybe eSATA i guess |
| 12:27.16 | Workfoz | oO |
| 12:27.21 | Fisker | There isn't a single motherboard that can handle that many drives |
| 12:27.21 | Workfoz | eSATA is for external drives, bro |
| 12:27.34 | Fisker | And I don't wanna use dedicated controllers |
| 12:27.44 | Workfoz | random limitations ftw? |
| 12:27.51 | Alram | yes Workfoz but some NAS systems have eSATA |
| 12:27.56 | Workfoz | in that case, you're probably limited to 12 (some asrock board has that) |
| 12:28.00 | Workfoz | Alram: ...whyyy? |
| 12:28.05 | Alram | ask them |
| 12:28.13 | Workfoz | to connect a friend's external HDD so you can copy shit? |
| 12:28.28 | Alram | yeah would be nice |
| 12:28.30 | Workfoz | that seems like the only use-case I can think of (or variants of that) |
| 12:28.56 | karl_w_w | i bought a relatively cheap netgear readynas and that has eSATA |
| 12:29.12 | Workfoz | nobody's feeding me? ok. I'll go get something myself, then :P |
| 12:30.22 | Alram | Fisker, find me a NAS I could theoretically run WoW off |
| 12:30.50 | karl_w_w | u can run wow on anything |
| 12:30.56 | Alram | speed wise. |
| 12:34.40 | karl_w_w | yeah I've run it off a usb 2.0 drive |
| 12:34.56 | karl_w_w | which is slower than 99% of nas setups |
| 12:35.06 | Alram | oh ok |
| 12:35.13 | Alram | didnt expect that |
| 12:35.40 | Fisker | Everything's a dildo if you're brave enough |
| 12:35.47 | Alram | thanks Fisker |
| 12:35.59 | Fisker | no problem |
| 12:36.19 | karl_w_w | I once used a chopping board as a dildo |
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| 12:37.02 | Fisker | speaking of the devil |
| 12:37.13 | Stanzilla | is it Analram? |
| 12:37.32 | Stanzilla | also it might be me, I've see things |
| 12:37.46 | Fisker | hi Lopeppeppy |
| 12:37.54 | Stanzilla | http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/aYb9W7x_460s.jpg |
| 12:37.56 | Alram | silence Stainzilla |
| 12:37.56 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, sir. |
| 12:37.57 | Stanzilla | do you see it? |
| 12:38.06 | Stanzilla | 4/10 Alram, try again |
| 12:38.23 | Stanzilla | I still love you though |
| 12:38.25 | Stanzilla | so don't cry |
| 12:38.35 | karl_w_w | stan the guy from the eminem song? |
| 12:38.37 | Fisker | I'm happy to report you couldn't see the discussion we had before Lopeppeppy |
| 12:40.15 | rid_ | tl;dr version: 14:36 < Fisker> Everything's a dildo if you're brave enough |
| 12:41.38 | Fisker | pls rid_ |
| 12:41.46 | Fisker | I'm gonna so gonna come down to germany |
| 12:41.52 | rid_ | \o/ |
| 12:42.04 | Fisker | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 12:42.05 | rid_ | I am prepared |
| 12:42.52 | Fisker | WHAT THE FUCK Alram |
| 12:43.02 | Fisker | peter bishop! |
| 12:43.08 | Fisker | Didn't even notice |
| 12:43.59 | Stanzilla | Fisker |
| 12:44.05 | Stanzilla | pls no germanyrino |
| 12:44.06 | Stanzilla | I'm scared |
| 12:44.13 | Fisker | Yes germanyrino |
| 12:44.23 | Alram | peter bishop where Fisker |
| 12:44.39 | Fisker | in the strain |
| 12:44.44 | Fisker | not really though |
| 12:44.46 | Alram | dont watch |
| 12:44.51 | Fisker | But now I got your interest peaked |
| 12:45.41 | Fisker | oh man Stanzilla |
| 12:45.44 | Fisker | You live nearby |
| 12:45.48 | Fisker | Guess I will germanyrino |
| 12:46.38 | Stanzilla | nearby to what |
| 12:47.13 | Fisker | rid_ |
| 12:47.28 | karl_w_w | good news Fisker |
| 12:47.50 | Stanzilla | I don't know where rid_ is and why you want to visit him |
| 12:47.54 | karl_w_w | I have defeated the dreaded rhinovirus |
| 12:48.35 | rid_ | :s |
| 12:49.05 | Fisker | that's of no concern to you Stanzilla |
| 12:49.12 | Fisker | But I will visit you as well |
| 12:49.25 | Stanzilla | I will steal all your gadgets |
| 12:49.40 | Fisker | I will have no gadgets to steal |
| 12:50.02 | Stanzilla | that is not very realistic |
| 12:50.19 | Fisker | why? |
| 12:50.28 | Alram | you are a Fisker |
| 12:51.06 | karl_w_w | Fisker, are you nariis? |
| 12:51.50 | zenzelezz | "Stayhard" sounds like a peculiar name for a men's clothes webshop |
| 12:52.23 | karl_w_w | if anything it should be women's clothes |
| 12:52.39 | karl_w_w | unless it is specifically marketed to gay men |
| 12:58.08 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/QeGJwmU.jpg |
| 12:59.46 | zenzelezz | mixed response? |
| 13:00.17 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/ho3dA52.jpg |
| 13:00.23 | karl_w_w | seems it's an american thing |
| 13:00.34 | karl_w_w | anything slightly unusual makes them angry and confused |
| 13:01.46 | karl_w_w | i think this guy sums it up pretty well http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2ba6jq/looks_like_the_dota_coverage_on_espn_was_well/cj3agos |
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| 13:26.51 | foxlit | follower mission success probabilities seem like nonsense. |
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| 14:10.48 | jleclanche | ahahah |
| 14:11.12 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: amaz keeps thoughtstealing Azure Drakes. "I am officially Seto Kaiba" |
| 14:11.42 | karl_w_w | I don't know who that is |
| 14:12.20 | jleclanche | oh well |
| 14:14.10 | karl_w_w | they can't even :P |
| 14:15.02 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: his last 5 thoughtsteals had azure drakes |
| 14:15.03 | jleclanche | hahah |
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| 14:27.59 | karl_w_w | my hearthstone isnt making any noise |
| 14:35.40 | Dagmar | Mine occasionally makes this weird noise like barely audible whispering voices coming from inside it. |
| 14:38.42 | karl_w_w | that's the background sound |
| 14:44.10 | Dagmar | Is it normal for the game to tell me to do things? |
| 14:51.24 | karl_w_w | in my experience yes |
| 14:51.41 | Dagmar | Okay, she stays in the cellar then. |
| 15:03.34 | Lopeppeppy | Shark bait, oooh ha ha! |
| 15:03.56 | Fisker | She returns |
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| 15:35.03 | Henk_ | Hello |
| 15:39.01 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning. |
| 15:39.55 | Arrowmaster | yes it is barely still morning |
| 15:40.08 | Fisker | Almost dinner time |
| 15:42.42 | Lopeppeppy | What-EV-er. |
| 15:45.29 | Fisker | You do what you want? |
| 15:48.21 | Fisker | Sassypeppy |
| 16:00.07 | Henk_ | I have a problem with two addons, kgPanels and Kong. kgPanels dont have static names and Kong uses names to identifiy frames overloading the name function didnt help |
| 16:08.36 | TC-Work | Do not badger the peppy, Fisker. We don't need more bloodshed in our schools. |
| 16:08.59 | Fisker | I trust in peppy to only take bloodshed to me |
| 16:09.13 | TC-Work | Way way way too much trust. |
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| 16:19.45 | Fisker | oh no |
| 16:19.47 | Fisker | now there's two |
| 16:19.52 | Fisker | Thisi s clearly your fault TC-Work |
| 16:22.22 | TC-Work | Fisker: Well, yea. |
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| 16:28.25 | Lopeppeppy | Fraggle spasm power brownouts. |
| 16:29.53 | Fisker | :( |
| 16:32.41 | foxlit | why are there sylvari on draenor, anyway? |
| 16:38.04 | Fisker | who? |
| 16:39.06 | foxlit | http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2014/june/Botani.jpg |
| 16:42.54 | TC-Work | Because they want to be? |
| 16:47.30 | Fisker | Oh it's a guild wars thing foxlit |
| 16:47.31 | Fisker | silly |
| 16:51.11 | foxlit | I wonder if thereâs an unreasonably concise way to call a function thatâs not guaranteed to exist, without throwing an error when it does not. |
| 16:51.22 | foxlit | if foo then foo() end seems so meh. |
| 16:52.28 | foxlit | (and âfoo and foo()â is not a statement. Why are you not C, Lua?) |
| 16:58.09 | alestane | foxlit, I believe some people have hacked the Lua compiler to recognize foo?() as a shorthand for if foo then foo() end |
| 16:58.16 | Fisker | heat Lopeppeppy |
| 16:58.23 | Fisker | Why won't it just stop? |
| 16:58.39 | foxlit | alestane: itâs somewhat worse in my case, as well, since what I really want is foo?.bar?() |
| 16:59.30 | alestane | So you need something that equates to [[ if foo and foor.bar then foo.bar() end ]] |
| 16:59.52 | foxlit | but letâs say that foo.bar exists if foo does. |
| 17:00.31 | VIad | this is awesome - complementary patron subscription for reaching 25k rep on wowhead! :D |
| 17:02.47 | foxlit | seems like the options are _ = foo and foo.bar(); and (foo and foo.bar or dummy)(), the latter of which doesnât play always nice without semicolons. |
| 17:02.54 | foxlit | s/play always/always play/ |
| 17:02.56 | Lopeppeppy | Heat is seasonal, Fisker. Move to a place where there are no seasons. |
| 17:03.10 | Fisker | Greenland maybe? |
| 17:07.51 | Lopeppeppy | Iceland, Alaska, Antarctica. Yeah, choices are limited and most are cold. |
| 17:13.11 | Fisker | Which is great |
| 17:17.16 | karl_w_w | I can't understand why people hate advertising |
| 17:18.21 | Semlar | because it's either distracting, in the way, or preventing me from watching something until it's over |
| 17:18.34 | Arrowmaster | damnit bestbuy, put the 3ds games backup for sale online even if i have to wait weeks for them to come in stock to ship |
| 17:21.00 | Lopeppeppy | Because they don't understand AdBlocker and suchlike programs, I think. |
| 17:21.32 | Semlar | i don't think that changes their attitude toward ads |
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| 17:22.58 | karl_w_w | 8 minutes to TI finals for anyone who cares (VIad) http://www.twitch.tv/dota2ti |
| 17:23.14 | VIad | yes :D |
| 17:24.41 | karl_w_w | still sad that lumi is casting the final instead of synderen |
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| 17:45.04 | Shirik | wtf |
| 17:45.08 | Shirik | air force just broke another GPS satellite |
| 17:45.17 | Shirik | that's like twice in two weeks, and I've never seen this happen ever before that |
| 17:46.17 | Fisker | ww3 begins Shirik |
| 17:47.07 | Shirik | it must be true |
| 17:47.18 | Shirik | the GPS satellites are rebelling |
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| 18:02.23 | Gnarfoz | they are making room for Beidu and Galileo~ |
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| 18:06.33 | fewyn | when did blizzard add a built in addon control panel on the beta? |
| 18:06.48 | fewyn | that's nice |
| 18:09.23 | CobraA1_ | Anybody know how to get the latest interface files from the WoD beta? |
| 18:10.16 | kd3|hate`net | using external tools. there are several mirrors of the UI (xml/lua) on github. here's one: https://github.com/Gethe/wow-ui-source |
| 18:10.41 | kd3 | swap to the beta branch and you can download a copy |
| 18:10.50 | CobraA1_ | Thanks |
| 18:16.04 | Gnarfoz | fewyn: day 1 of alpha \o/ |
| 18:16.18 | Gnarfoz | actually, BlizzCon even, I think ^^ |
| 18:16.41 | Gnarfoz | but was certainly in alpha from the start |
| 18:22.03 | fewyn | well it's nice to have one built in |
| 18:22.29 | Gnarfoz | sure |
| 18:22.45 | Gnarfoz | shame that it's probably going to be pretty basic, meaning I'll still have ACP installed anyway :D |
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| 18:29.27 | Lopeppeppy | I have Weird Al stuck in my head. Holp. |
| 18:30.18 | Gnarfoz | Lopeppeppy: I don't see a problem. Carry on. |
| 18:30.34 | Lopeppeppy | Aluminum FOOOY-ILLLL! |
| 18:30.37 | Gnarfoz | FOILLLLL |
| 18:30.38 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 18:30.50 | Gnarfoz | one of, if not the best song on the album |
| 18:31.21 | Fisker | Well as long as it's only your head Lopeppeppy |
| 18:31.25 | Lopeppeppy | I did enjoy the sports one, but the backup singers on Foil are awesome. |
| 18:31.57 | Gnarfoz | I shall listen to it again later. Have to watch Newbee getting crushed by VG for now |
| 18:33.51 | Fisker | foils Lopeppeppy |
| 18:34.24 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr? |
| 18:34.43 | Fisker | You tell me |
| 18:36.13 | Lopeppeppy | I think it's not air tight, so okay. Cling wrap is right out. |
| 18:38.07 | Fisker | I'm not trying to suffocate you Lopeppeppy :( |
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| 18:40.42 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, good to know. *makes notes in file* |
| 18:41.14 | Fisker | D: |
| 18:41.28 | Fisker | Fisker.xlsx |
| 18:41.30 | Fisker | Pros: Doesn't try to suffocate you |
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| 18:41.35 | Fisker | Cons: Everything else |
| 18:42.49 | Lopeppeppy | My major con is "Your chocolate tastes better than mine. Gimme." |
| 18:43.25 | Fisker | What kind of chocolate do you want? |
| 18:44.07 | Lopeppeppy | Usually Godiva milk chocolate or sea salt caramel are good choices. |
| 18:45.45 | Fisker | That's not particularly danish I think Lopeppeppy D: |
| 18:46.27 | Lopeppeppy | Research your local chocolate for a suitable high-quality equivalent. |
| 18:46.38 | Fisker | I think we have that brand |
| 18:46.49 | Fisker | But you said our chocolate tastes better D: |
| 18:47.55 | Fisker | Well technically it is belgian chocolate so it's in the area |
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| 18:58.01 | Lopeppeppy | No, I said that "someone else's" chocolate tastes better. Theiving is always personal, never country-wide. |
| 19:01.06 | Kalroth | Unless you steal enough. |
| 19:01.43 | Fisker | oh ok Lopeppeppy |
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| 19:01.55 | Fisker | I disagree but ok |
| 19:02.12 | Jamash | Writing that stealing is never country-wide is rather ironic considering http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/23/us-bankofamerica-hustle-idUSBRE99M14B20131023 |
| 19:02.27 | Kalroth | You should not disagree, Fisker. |
| 19:02.36 | Fisker | Why not Kalroth ? |
| 19:02.36 | Jamash | Kalroth: I disagree |
| 19:02.52 | Jamash | Also, I am Spartacus |
| 19:03.20 | Kalroth | Because it's rude and unbecoming to disagree. |
| 19:03.38 | Kalroth | Real gentlemen agrees. |
| 19:04.12 | Lopeppeppy | .... *boggles* |
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| 19:10.06 | TC-Work | Kalroth: I believe that should be agree since gentlemen is plural. |
| 19:10.32 | Fisker | nah Kalroth |
| 19:14.05 | Kalroth | TC-Work: I agree. |
| 19:14.15 | Kalroth | See how gentlemanny that was! |
| 19:14.29 | TC-Work | It helps that I was correct. |
| 19:14.38 | Kalroth | Oi, now you're being rude. |
| 19:15.20 | TC-Work | Hi, my name is Thunder_Child, and I am an asshole. |
| 19:16.23 | Kalroth | I .. agree. :( |
| 19:16.32 | Kalroth | Apologies! |
| 19:18.50 | Lopeppeppy | Gentlemen are never rude? |
| 19:20.34 | Fisker | Lopeppeppy wishes |
| 19:20.50 | Fisker | Actually |
| 19:21.04 | foxlit | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info19444-HeroStatus.html |
| 19:21.05 | Fisker | Some people just don't fit the title of gentleman |
| 19:21.07 | VIad | karl_w_w: after newbee vs vici are there any other games scheduled today? |
| 19:21.29 | Fisker | nice mod foxlit |
| 19:22.30 | karl_w_w | games after the grand final, VIad? |
| 19:22.59 | VIad | what happened to the special team tournament? |
| 19:23.00 | VIad | 1v1 games? |
| 19:23.01 | VIad | :( |
| 19:23.19 | VIad | only saw one rOtK vs XBOCT game |
| 19:23.22 | VIad | not 3-5? |
| 19:24.07 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 19:24.16 | Gnarfoz | are you bad at reading the website, or what's your question |
| 19:27.13 | Fisker | Kalroth are you going to blizzcon? |
| 19:28.10 | karl_w_w | the 1v1 was ages ago |
| 19:28.24 | karl_w_w | durin the playins |
| 19:28.39 | Gnarfoz | idd |
| 19:28.55 | Gnarfoz | and all-star game was Saturday evening I think? |
| 19:29.06 | Kalroth | Fisker: No |
| 19:29.22 | Fisker | Btw Lopeppeppy I'm bringing lots of chocolate with me for blizzcon :D |
| 19:29.42 | Kalroth | Fisker: It's been a few years since I last played a Blizzard game, so not much for me there. |
| 19:29.50 | Lopeppeppy | Ungentlemanly like conduct. The bet presents are the ones that get mailed to me! :) |
| 19:29.59 | Cairenn | heh |
| 19:30.02 | Fisker | Damn |
| 19:30.13 | Lopeppeppy | Best presents, even. |
| 19:30.31 | Fisker | Tried my best to get you into blizzcon but nooo |
| 19:30.32 | Fisker | :( |
| 19:31.18 | Lopeppeppy | So mail me a new car and I'll totally arrive. |
| 19:31.40 | Fisker | I'm not Amazon :( |
| 19:32.06 | Lopeppeppy | But my criteria are totally clear! |
| 19:32.37 | Fisker | Yeah but I can't mail you a car |
| 19:33.15 | Lopeppeppy | Dealerships do it all the time. |
| 19:34.27 | Fisker | Still I think I'll run into issues sending it from Denmark |
| 19:38.00 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm. VAT and stuff, huh? I hear that's a trouble in Europe. |
| 19:38.22 | Kalroth | Only in certain parts, up here in northern Denmark we don't use VAT |
| 19:38.43 | Fisker | Stahp Kalroth |
| 19:38.48 | Kalroth | You pay in cash, bitcoins or favors! |
| 19:39.17 | Fisker | I was thinking more in the line of expert duties, shipping and what not |
| 19:39.27 | Kalroth | oh |
| 19:39.39 | Fisker | Not to mention the silly fees for getting s car to begin with |
| 19:39.58 | Kalroth | Actually Denmark got some of the cheapest cars in the world, it's the number plate that's expensive. |
| 19:40.13 | Kalroth | So it might be feasible! |
| 19:40.31 | Fisker | Anyway Lopeppeppy what's your address, typical hours of sleep, placement of backup key and code to any alarms? |
| 19:40.38 | Kalroth | haha |
| 19:41.50 | Fisker | Gotta leave the delivery man with the right instructions |
| 19:42.14 | Kalroth | Shouldn't you pick the right car brand first? |
| 19:43.07 | Fisker | Car what now? |
| 19:43.11 | Fisker | Oh yes |
| 19:43.21 | Fisker | Remember to tell me what car you want |
| 19:43.31 | Fisker | But that's like optional |
| 19:44.14 | Kalroth | http://i.imgur.com/arhJXHS.jpg bawww |
| 19:47.39 | Fisker | The car salesman is really impatient with me |
| 19:48.15 | Kalroth | I think it means you can pick one for her. |
| 19:48.17 | Lopeppeppy | Four wheels that turn, ac that works, less than 10K miles on it, automatic transmission. AWD is a bonus. |
| 19:48.57 | Kalroth | Automatic? Geeez, learn to stick! |
| 19:49.16 | Fisker | She did, just not the one in the car |
| 19:49.21 | Fisker | Boooom |
| 19:49.24 | Lopeppeppy | Boom. |
| 19:49.58 | Fisker | I'm being the best gentleman D: |
| 19:50.05 | Lopeppeppy | Kalroth, I can't rely on having both hands functional on any given day, a stick shift is not a good idea for me. I learned to drive on a three-speed tractor, stick isn't hard. |
| 19:51.22 | Kalroth | You should get a Google car, then you can relax and browse intarwebs while driving! |
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| 19:52.53 | Fisker | I'll get you a Google car Kalroth |
| 19:53.04 | Lopeppeppy | Someone to do the driving on my hour-long commute? F'ing SOLD. |
| 19:54.42 | Kalroth | Fisker: Yes, please. |
| 19:55.13 | Fisker | Now I just need delivery information |
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| 20:11.07 | Lopeppeppy | ... Honest and for true, the graphic designer for print work here just asked out loud to the Cube Farm, "What's that font that looks like bamboo, I want to use it for XYZ Event." Papyrus. She's freakin' about to use Papyrus on an official college publication. |
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| 20:17.32 | Neffi | -- and doesnt know what Papyrus is called. You should fire her |
| 20:18.01 | Ressy | Or couldn't remember the name of it? |
| 20:18.27 | Neffi | She still wants to actually use it. There's a special circle in hell for people who use that font |
| 20:18.42 | Fisker | But it's not comic sans Lopeppeppy |
| 20:18.55 | Simca | it's worse |
| 20:19.06 | Simca | you might as well use Wingdings, it's about as readable |
| 20:19.14 | Lopeppeppy | She needs to be fired on both counts, honestly. |
| 20:19.36 | Fisker | You're Wingdings Simca :( |
| 20:20.21 | Lopeppeppy | Feed her to the dog that Other Damn Coworker brought in today. |
| 20:21.11 | Fisker | Century Gothic is the worst |
| 20:22.03 | Esamynn|work | jeez, such font haters :P |
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| 20:24.47 | Fisker | I'm gonna miss Lopeppeppy |
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| 20:37.44 | Lopeppeppy | I'll miss you too, Fisker, while I'm mowing my lawn. *hug* |
| 20:38.23 | Fisker | That's not appropriate :| |
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| 20:41.07 | Esamynn|work | O_o |
| 20:42.34 | TC-Work | Any reason that 'except Exception as e:' wouldn't capture an error? |
| 20:45.34 | foxlit | an Error is not an Exception? |
| 20:45.43 | karl_w_w | http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/science/Cancer-therapy-cures-two-Australian-patients-of-HIV/articleshow/38815129.cms |
| 20:46.20 | TC-Work | I thought Exception was a catchall |
| 20:46.35 | foxlit | (at least in Java; consult the reference for whatever language youâre actually using) |
| 20:49.06 | Simca | TC-Work: depends on language |
| 20:49.29 | Simca | in C++/C# a better catchall is just an empty catch |
| 20:49.31 | TC-Work | Yea, nvm. I needed to RTFM. |
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| 20:52.03 | Simca | I don't suppose anyone would happen to know why a standard HttpWebRequest with the "POST" method is returning an error 500 WebException but I can't see the response in Fiddler |
| 20:53.22 | TC-Work | After a quick glance at what Fiddler is, could the 500 be from hitting the service? |
| 20:55.12 | Simca | possibly, but I still get the 500 without Fiddler |
| 20:55.33 | Gnarfoz | what do you mean by "the response" |
| 20:55.45 | Gnarfoz | the 500 is the response? |
| 20:55.54 | Simca | Fiddler sees only sees a standard 'Tunnel to www.youtube.com:443 - CONNECT' message |
| 20:56.07 | Simca | it doesn't see the actual POST request or the response that is supposedly giving the 500 |
| 20:56.18 | Gnarfoz | what browser are you testing with |
| 20:56.35 | Simca | testing from a VS C# application |
| 20:56.42 | Gnarfoz | hopefully not Chrome, because they probably have the yt certs pinned, making ssl interception nigh impossible |
| 20:56.45 | Gnarfoz | ok |
| 20:58.06 | Gnarfoz | is there actual traffic following the connect |
| 20:58.19 | Simca | No, not according to Fiddler |
| 20:58.21 | Gnarfoz | (i.e. check Wireshark, even though you can't read the HTTPS) |
| 20:58.37 | Gnarfoz | Fiddler relies on you using it as a proxy, doesn't it? |
| 20:58.38 | Simca | yes, there is traffic according to Wireshark |
| 20:58.47 | Simca | yeah, that's true |
| 21:03.51 | foxlit | can PLAYER_LOGIN happen during lockdown? |
| 21:05.01 | karl_w_w | i think so foxlit |
| 21:05.19 | karl_w_w | if its during a raid boss |
| 21:07.09 | foxlit | that would be inconvenient. |
| 21:15.09 | kd3|hate`net | a mayfly hatch so massive it could be seen on radar? http://www.channel3000.com/weather/photos-mayflies-hatch-along-mississippi/27069468 |
| 21:17.42 | TC-Work | I think that just means we need better radar. |
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| 21:26.07 | Esamynn|work | foxlit: not positive, but should be easy to test... put yourself in combat and reload the UI, check the timing compared to P_E_W which has essentially equivalent timing |
| 21:26.28 | Esamynn|work | I suspect the lock down might start AFTER P_E_W |
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| 21:49.51 | Gragagrogog | lockdown starts after P_E_W, the problem is some data is not availible at that time |
| 21:54.26 | Simca | i think the wowpedia article about the loading process has all the specifics |
| 21:54.40 | Simca | i remember having to consult it for a couple of my addons |
| 21:56.47 | foxlit | who do you think wrote that article? :) |
| 21:57.23 | Fisker | Bill Gates? |
| 21:58.32 | foxlit | anyhow, it doesnât cover PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED/lockdown, so it isnât helpful in this case. |
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| 22:01.24 | kd3 | oof. good thing I'm not bothering to try to log in to the beta |
| 22:01.52 | foxlit | (my intuition agrees with Gragagrogog: P_L happens before P_E_W, and P_R_D doesnât make sense until youâre zoned in, but finding a raid boss to test karl_w_wâs theory seems like work.) |
| 22:02.27 | VIad | http://imgur.com/gallery/giF1Tgt |
| 22:02.58 | Neffi | Find a low level mob, let it aggro, /console reloadui |
| 22:03.19 | Neffi | Oh, nevermind |
| 22:08.05 | foxlit | I think Iâll just assume it works this way then see if anyone howls in protest. |
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| 22:09.37 | Gragagrogog | there is a difference between logging in from login screen and reloading ui, |
| 22:10.02 | Esamynn|work | foxlit: I wrote the original version of the loading events order stuff |
| 22:10.18 | Esamynn|work | iirc |
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| 22:10.45 | foxlit | http://wowpedia.org/index.php?title=Events_that_fire_during_the_loading_process&oldid=116808 <3 |
| 22:11.06 | Elmoe | Hi all, I'm having a problem getting external texture references to work in my frame XML in beta |
| 22:11.26 | kd3 | all non-blizz texture references are broken atm in beta |
| 22:11.29 | Elmoe | are there any changes to the way external textures are referenced now? |
| 22:11.35 | Elmoe | ahh ok |
| 22:11.35 | Esamynn|work | Gragagrogog: but in this case, P_L and P_E_W are so closely tied togeather, a reload should suffice |
| 22:12.00 | Elmoe | is there an official thread on the forums they are using to track issues with addon dev in beta? |
| 22:12.10 | Esamynn|work | but, if you want to be sure, grab a friend and head to Molten Core |
| 22:12.10 | Elmoe | I haven't been able to find much or even a good changelog |
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| 22:12.40 | Esamynn|work | Elmoe: no, but you could start one |
| 22:12.40 | Gragagrogog | http://wowpedia.org/Patch_6.0.1/API_changes |
| 22:12.52 | kd3 | there's no official changelog (there never has been). we're trying to document stuff at http://wowpedia.org/Patch_6.0.1/API_changes and if you have a us account, the offical thread linked there |
| 22:13.08 | Elmoe | cool thanks |
| 22:13.33 | Esamynn|work | ahh, you wanted a changes list, not an issues list, my bad |
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| 22:19.10 | Gragagrogog | Esamynn|work: the difference i spoke of is in some functions like IsInRaidGroup() at P_E_W, when logging in its always false, after reload it is correct value |
| 22:21.30 | Esamynn|work | aye, I know |
| 22:21.35 | Esamynn|work | some are more annoying than others ;) |
| 22:23.53 | Gragagrogog | btw, its interesting that wildstar /reloadui took under 2s |
| 22:25.10 | Simca | so does wow |
| 22:25.14 | Simca | if you have no addons |
| 22:29.13 | Mr_Rabies | even with my 100+ addons it doesn't take more than 2 seconds, as long as it hasn't been like 2 months since i restarted my pc |
| 22:30.04 | Simca | depends on the addons |
| 22:30.16 | Esamynn|work | and your hardware |
| 22:30.42 | Simca | idd |
| 22:30.53 | Simca | my SSD is like 10-12 seconds, HDD is 4-5x that |
| 22:35.17 | jleclanche | ooh new github ui |
| 22:35.51 | jleclanche | i really like it |
| 22:35.53 | jleclanche | https://github.com/translate/pootle/commits/stable/2.6.0 |
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| 22:51.10 | Simca | also Gnarfoz I think I figured out why I couldn't see it in Fiddler |
| 22:51.23 | Simca | it was set to only decrypt HTTPS traffic from browser processes :< |
| 22:51.28 | Gnarfoz | haha |
| 22:51.43 | Gnarfoz | that's what you get when you control all parts |
| 22:51.52 | Gnarfoz | wouldn't normally even know the originating process ^^ |
| 22:52.10 | Simca | i doubt it'll fix the 500, but at least it should show a nice error on the request/response in fiddler now |
| 22:53.48 | Gnarfoz | obviously the 500 is from the remote :p |
| 22:55.31 | Simca | hmm. no obvious errors. looks like the only difference in the headers of my request vs a request from clicking the button on the site in firefox is a "Expect: 100-continue" header |
| 22:55.36 | Gnarfoz | at least I found a way around my google music randomly refusing to work |
| 22:57.36 | Gnarfoz | I wonder how beefy their Squid is |
| 22:57.41 | Gnarfoz | pretty beefy, probably :D |
| 23:05.42 | Gnarfoz | shame that Chrome's dev tools don't show when Chrome is talking to a proxy server :| |
| 23:07.42 | Fisker | Silly Simca |
| 23:10.17 | Simca | oh god |
| 23:10.24 | Simca | the problem was so obvious i want to hurt myself |
| 23:11.20 | Fisker | Want me to hurt you instead? |
| 23:11.25 | Simca | sure |
| 23:11.40 | Fisker | slaps Simca around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:12.24 | Simca | I pass the content type header parameters to the function, then instead of using them, I set them to something static. http://i.imgur.com/9Ql5ylO.png |
| 23:12.29 | Simca | the past 2 days i've been debugging this and I didn't notice. |
| 23:14.42 | Gnarfoz | best kind of mistake |
| 23:15.03 | Fisker | You've been as dumb as Fry |
| 23:15.40 | Gnarfoz | fucking hate google for preventing partially proxying their shit |
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| 23:16.50 | Gnarfoz | I didn't test which ones of them are actually necessary, but the first one alone doesn't work |
| 23:16.53 | Gnarfoz | *.googleusercontent.com|*.client-channel.google.com|clients*.google.com|play.google.com |
| 23:17.06 | Gnarfoz | to use google music through a proxy |
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