| 00:00.00 | Esamynn|work | thinking about that again, I guess that's really a dumb question giving the official stance on data mining, nvm |
| 00:00.14 | Esamynn|work | I blame the fact that it's Friday |
| 00:00.32 | kd3 | did celery ever post the table headers anywhere? |
| 00:00.41 | Maldivia | Esamynn: there are a few sites with info, but mostly out of date |
| 00:00.56 | Esamynn|work | yes, so google has allowed me to discover int he past |
| 00:01.45 | Maldivia | also, blizzard did a big blunder during alpha, that give a lot if info about the dbcs :) |
| 00:02.06 | Maldivia | gave a lot of* |
| 00:02.32 | Esamynn|work | the WoD alpha? |
| 00:02.38 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 00:02.43 | Esamynn|work | oh? |
| 00:02.46 | Maldivia | altually, pre-alhpa |
| 00:03.02 | Maldivia | and apparently, I've hit that time of day where I can no longer type |
| 00:04.07 | Maldivia | there was a build with a few too many debug symbols available :P |
| 00:04.49 | Esamynn|work | hahaha |
| 00:04.53 | Esamynn|work | whoops! |
| 00:05.27 | Esamynn|work | I guess I'll just resort to bugging ppl in here the next time I feel the need to dig |
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| 00:47.00 | Simca | kd3: nah, he was only willing to do it for game tables, and those are obvious |
| 00:53.10 | Jamash | http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/07/09/president-obama-and-the-horse-mask-person-an-investigation-involving-data-and-charts/ |
| 00:53.15 | Alram | Esamynn|Away, some structs went up on the wowdev wiki today |
| 00:53.48 | Jamash | Thousands of reporters injured by falling puff pieces during slowest news day in recorded history |
| 01:21.05 | relaxok | what's the api call or whatever that darkens the screen beyond a window? like when you open the cinematics frame on the login screen |
| 01:21.19 | relaxok | or is that automatic when displaying something of a dialog framestrata or something? |
| 01:21.26 | relaxok | or what exactly does it do |
| 01:21.32 | relaxok | behind* |
| 01:25.21 | kd3 | gah, a double-patch. 18522->18537->18546 |
| 01:25.43 | Simca | 18546 only has changes in WoW exes and Spell.dbc |
| 01:25.47 | Simca | no new files |
| 01:28.35 | Esamynn|work | relaxok: I don't think it's an API call, iirc, it's just a black frame that covers everything :P |
| 01:34.27 | Semlar | cinematic screen? |
| 01:35.06 | Torhal | corrupts Semlar's executable with cleverly-placed emojis. |
| 01:35.17 | Semlar | :( |
| 01:35.21 | Gnarfoz | converts all of Torhal's addons to Swift |
| 01:35.33 | Gnarfoz | enjoy your emojis |
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| 01:35.37 | Gnarfoz | D: |
| 01:35.55 | Torhal | You. Unbelievable. Fuck. |
| 01:35.58 | Torhal | weeps. |
| 01:36.20 | Gnarfoz | hey they're... in some cases! almost as fast as Objective C |
| 01:37.13 | Semlar | tries to calm torhal down |
| 01:37.31 | Torhal | But WoW uses Lua. Not Swift. |
| 01:37.54 | Gnarfoz | I didn't say they'd still be useful afterwards |
| 01:38.12 | Gnarfoz | also, maybe 6.0 has more surprises in store than we expect! :O |
| 01:38.22 | Gnarfoz | perhaps they hired some "young talent" from the bay area. |
| 01:38.30 | Gnarfoz | cackles |
| 01:38.37 | Esamynn|work | ~whaleslap Gnarfoz |
| 01:38.44 | purl | ACTION beats Gnarfoz upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 01:39.03 | Gnarfoz | ~whaleparry |
| 01:39.10 | Gnarfoz | mh I NEVER get that right |
| 01:39.12 | Esamynn|work | ~fail Gnarfoz |
| 01:39.13 | purl | Gnarfoz: FAIL! |
| 01:39.21 | Esamynn|work | ~botsnack |
| 01:39.21 | purl | Esamynn|work: aw, gee |
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| 02:10.19 | relaxok | Esamynn|work: where? =p |
| 02:11.30 | relaxok | Esamynn|work: nvm i found it |
| 02:16.15 | Esamynn|work | relaxok: that'll teach you to immediately assume magic voodoo :P |
| 02:25.30 | relaxok | yeah i assumed because it wasnt working that it wasnt there |
| 02:25.32 | relaxok | but i must just have a bug |
| 02:29.09 | relaxok | is the loading screen a frame somewhere? |
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| 02:29.47 | Semlar | pretty sure it is |
| 02:31.09 | Simca | i don't know, i've never seen any code or apis for it |
| 02:31.20 | pompy1 | http://www.today.com/money/shhh-quiet-dining-applebees-goes-tech-free-only-one-day-1D79909895 |
| 02:31.40 | Semlar | well addons can't access it but it's probably done up like the rest of the ui |
| 02:31.40 | pompy1 | yeah so they will do no business on Tuesdays once they put that into effect! |
| 02:32.06 | Semlar | i don't know if it's in the gluexml or not |
| 02:32.46 | relaxok | if it is its not obviously named |
| 02:33.29 | Semlar | i know there's a dbc file with paths to the artwork |
| 02:33.38 | Semlar | based on the instance |
| 02:38.09 | relaxok | yeah |
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| 04:20.52 | pompy1 | seriously Arrowmaster!? |
| 04:20.54 | pompy1 | lol |
| 04:21.58 | Arrowmaster | what? |
| 04:23.57 | Arrowmaster | pompy1: what |
| 04:27.45 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: He's been weird like that lately. Past two days, actually. |
| 05:08.55 | pompy1 | ~lart Torhal |
| 05:08.55 | purl | takes out a seltzer bottle and sprays Torhal in the face. You know, one of those old-school seltzer bottles clowns have? Yeah those. Anyway, consider yourself spritzed |
| 05:09.28 | Thunder_Child | You are right Torhal, there he goes again. |
| 05:09.31 | pompy1 | Arrowmaster: idk, Steam showed ya load up Goat Simulator! |
| 05:09.48 | Thunder_Child | I played it as well. It's rather enjoyable |
| 05:10.00 | pompy1 | nice |
| 05:11.49 | Neffi | https://imgur.com/gallery/PAusB this man knows what he wants |
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| 05:16.10 | Amarande | goat simulator ... that ad makes me laugh |
| 05:16.30 | Amarande | it sounds like one of those silly off-brand games that you'd see in a cartoon or something, like where a kid's forced to settle for some subpar thing instead of the game they wanted |
| 05:16.56 | Amarande | like "I'm sorry dude I couldn't get you Flight Simulator, but maybe this Goat Simulator would be just as fun" |
| 05:17.20 | Semlar | you have no idea |
| 05:17.38 | Semlar | that goat is out for blood |
| 05:17.41 | VIad | :D |
| 05:18.01 | Amarande | New in Diablo IV, the Secret Goat Level |
| 05:18.30 | Amarande | actually, that makes me wonder, is there even any room in lore for a D4, or is D3 a fully capped off storyline now? |
| 05:19.38 | Semlar | um in diablo 4 kadala reveals that she's been collecting blood shards from players to summon diablo again |
| 05:20.01 | Amarande | Semlar: nononono |
| 05:20.02 | Amarande | EARS |
| 05:20.05 | Amarande | it's all about ears |
| 05:20.35 | Constie | I don't know that the Diablo writers are competent enough for a fully capped-off storyline to be a thing. |
| 05:21.40 | Semlar | all the players gambling for items are just fueling the soulstone for the next expansion |
| 05:22.43 | Constie | In a shocking twist it turns out that Tyrael has been corrupted, and now you have to kill him before he destroys all of creation! |
| 05:23.08 | Semlar | it turns out the angels were the demons the whole time |
| 05:25.01 | Constie | Deckard Cain secretly had his own soulstone, and he's back from the dead! ...But he was corrupted, and now you have to kill him before he destroys all of creation! |
| 05:25.11 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: this was interesting: https://pay.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/2adkim/i_analyzed_over_200_12winarenas_this_is_my_tier/ |
| 05:25.35 | Amarande | also, the Diablo timeline is a timey wimey mess |
| 05:25.38 | Amarande | because, let's put it this way |
| 05:25.55 | Amarande | I'm pretty sure the blue and yellow items I vendor in D3 are then sold back through time to Gheed for me to gamble on in D2 |
| 05:27.53 | Amarande | btw, is it worth actually playing D3 atm if you didn't buy the expansion yet? |
| 05:28.20 | Semlar | i doubt it |
| 05:28.38 | Semlar | the expansion made the game like a hundred times better |
| 05:33.14 | Semlar | and i have no idea how that affected the original game |
| 05:35.41 | Constie | I think it added some things. You need the expansion for the best class and Adventure Mode, though, so. |
| 05:36.14 | Semlar | you don't need the expansion to play a witch doctor! |
| 05:36.32 | Amarande | I'm also guessing that Torments are all balanced for 70 and there's not a snowball's chance in hell of getting anywhere there at 60? |
| 05:36.45 | Semlar | that's not how the game works any more |
| 05:36.54 | Semlar | everything scales based on your level |
| 05:37.16 | Semlar | so you just set it to whatever difficulty you can kill things at and play |
| 05:37.28 | Semlar | and the items that drop will be your level |
| 05:37.50 | Constie | I believe I was able to start off at Torment I on my 60 that I had been playing a while. Could be wrong. |
| 05:38.27 | Constie | Where playing a while means just clearing Inferno once. |
| 05:38.32 | Semlar | oh well loot 2.0 drops are way, way better than any gear you might have on a level 60 |
| 05:38.53 | Semlar | the old itemization sucked |
| 05:38.59 | karl_w_w | yeah pretty good jleclanche |
| 05:39.22 | Amarande | yeah, what were they thinking with loot 1.0 anyway |
| 05:39.30 | karl_w_w | i suspect those ones that are stronger than trump's tier list are because of mages |
| 05:39.46 | Amarande | was it really to drum up prices (and cuts) on RMAH, or is that just a common conspiracy theory? |
| 05:40.10 | karl_w_w | (faerie dragon being un-pingable and amani being very friendly-pingable |
| 05:40.13 | karl_w_w | ) |
| 05:40.45 | Constie | I think they just had mismatched expectations re: average player mentalities. I had a good time without using the AH, but I'm a weirdo. |
| 05:41.10 | Amarande | I can't recall buying anything from the RMAH other than gold and high end gems, anyway |
| 05:41.15 | Constie | Surely the RMAH didn't get them very much money compared to WoW subscriptions? |
| 05:41.21 | Amarande | and that's just because they made high end gems that stupidly inaccessible by normal means |
| 05:41.41 | Amarande | and they helped THAT much when leveling |
| 05:41.58 | Amarande | it was like, get a couple top end rubies and YES! I AM INVINCIBLE! at least up till you reached late hell or so |
| 05:42.30 | Amarande | Constie: yeah, I can't imagine it being that profitable, especially with all the hoops they made US users in particular jump thru |
| 05:43.28 | Amarande | the SMS Protect crap alone probably cost them untold amounts of sales, given that in the USA I can easily say that SMS Protect can cost 75 bucks or more a month |
| 05:44.06 | Amarande | I need to remember to ditch it at the end of the year before I go prepaid myself, heh |
| 05:44.10 | Constie | I couldn't have used the RMAH if I wanted to on account of wanting to play with US friends but not having a US phone number. |
| 05:44.26 | Amarande | ah |
| 05:44.59 | Amarande | the bigger thing is that thanks to some lame ass federal regulations designed to curb SMS spam and scams, you basically have to have a CONTRACT phone in the US in order to get SMS Protect |
| 05:45.15 | Amarande | meanwhile, you folks on the other side of the pond could use your reasonably priced prepaids |
| 05:45.45 | Amarande | that's why I say it costs 75 bucks a month, because a contract phone will easily run you 125 a month in the US while a prepaid will be like, 40 or 50 for similar (often even better) allotments |
| 05:46.14 | Semlar | phone? |
| 05:46.32 | Amarande | Semlar: cell phone, for the battle.net SMS Protect service |
| 05:47.02 | Semlar | i pay $15 a month for my cell phone |
| 05:47.03 | Amarande | which you were required to have to use the RMAH if I remember right (you definitely needed it to cash out, you may have needed just the authenticator to use Bobby Bucks) |
| 05:47.14 | Amarande | Semlar: USA? |
| 05:47.20 | Semlar | verizon |
| 05:47.46 | Semlar | i don't have a smart phone |
| 05:47.52 | Amarande | no way. you're on a family plan and that's just what *your* line costs, isn't it? |
| 05:48.15 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure i could get a prepaid plan for less than this |
| 05:48.35 | Amarande | Semlar: yeah, that's the thing ... in the US you basically can't use prepaid phones with SMS Protect |
| 05:48.56 | Amarande | which basically meant to not be stuck with Bobby Bucks only, you had to pay out every orifice you've got and some you probably didn't realise you had in order to qualify :S |
| 05:49.24 | Amarande | which reminds me, I wonder how much hate closing the RMAH got Blizzard |
| 05:49.34 | Amarande | because there's probably people stuck with virtually useless battle.net balances now |
| 05:50.17 | Amarande | if they only play Diablo III for instance, pretty sure that money is just gone now, since I think basically anything you're able to do anymore with a Battle.net Balance is stuff for WoW |
| 05:51.28 | Amarande | nobody is really sure why they made sms protect a requirement like that when blizz believes in the authenticator so strongly though |
| 05:51.52 | Amarande | the usual grouse is that blizz did it to try to discourage people from cashing out and instead keep all their sales money in the BnB |
| 05:55.21 | Amarande | but yeah, it's good that it's gone and we've got Loot 2.0 :) |
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| 07:50.05 | airtonix | i guess he had something to say |
| 08:08.34 | Sintacks | Stanzilla: then add cross realm stuff you lazy coder. |
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| 09:29.02 | VIad | never understood why dota 2 has weird setup of gamemodes |
| 09:29.23 | VIad | it's like they made 10 game modes but only let people queue for very specific selection of them in practice, ranked and unranked queues. |
| 09:29.47 | VIad | makes so much more sense to allow a two way dropdown menu, where you first pick practice/ranked/unranked and then any game mode :P |
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| 09:31.10 | Maldivia | but but... sense... |
| 09:31.57 | VIad | tbh with so much money puring into dota 2 |
| 09:32.09 | VIad | it's weird they don't got a larger team to fix the UI of the game |
| 09:32.23 | VIad | almost unchanged since early beta and there are a lot of bugs and issues to be fixed |
| 09:32.40 | VIad | list keeps piling on, and this isn't a mmo that gets expansions either :p |
| 09:34.31 | VIad | not to mention they should expand their workshop to allow the community to write and vote for what AI they should use for the game - sure they dont got time to write their AI, fine, but so many people want to, it's silly not to use the community ressource |
| 09:34.41 | Maldivia | they are too busy with HL3 |
| 09:35.03 | VIad | dota 1 has AI version with all heroes supported, and it's like one guy that maintains it lol. |
| 09:53.16 | karl_w_w | what VIad |
| 09:53.19 | karl_w_w | you make no sense |
| 09:53.48 | VIad | ranked games only allow you to queue for captains mode for instance - I am sure some would like the option to queue for less popular modes and get ranked :P |
| 09:53.58 | karl_w_w | there is no ranked play for the clowny modes because they are clowny modes |
| 09:54.02 | VIad | or to queue for modes without having the games recorded, stats wise |
| 09:54.10 | karl_w_w | why do u need a rank for ability draft? |
| 09:54.13 | airtonix | karl_w_w: your face is a clowny mode |
| 09:54.13 | VIad | I think it should be an option to the player |
| 09:54.29 | karl_w_w | so dilute the player pool for no reason |
| 09:54.30 | VIad | I myself would like the option to play ability draft as practice games :p |
| 09:54.42 | VIad | instead of normal games like it is now |
| 09:55.10 | karl_w_w | what do u mean practice |
| 09:55.19 | karl_w_w | and what is wrong with the UI? |
| 09:55.51 | airtonix | karl_w_w: see what i did there? I made assertions about the physio-chemical radiance on the captial gains of your asthetical liquid assets. |
| 09:57.00 | airtonix | oh classic karl_w_w... never gets mad |
| 09:57.53 | VIad | karl: lacks flexibility if you aSK ME |
| 09:58.06 | VIad | and feels clunky, a lot of clicking to get to certain places |
| 09:58.11 | VIad | I am sure it could be better :) |
| 09:58.17 | karl_w_w | you're way too advanced for me airtonix |
| 09:58.38 | karl_w_w | in game or out of game VIad |
| 09:58.44 | airtonix | do i need to break it down into cockney? |
| 09:59.07 | karl_w_w | if you like |
| 09:59.12 | karl_w_w | guv |
| 09:59.15 | airtonix | cock knee |
| 09:59.47 | VIad | the menus outside of the games |
| 09:59.49 | airtonix | anyway karl_w_w you should think about raising the ceiling |
| 10:00.11 | karl_w_w | the debt ceiling? |
| 10:00.18 | airtonix | the growth ceiling |
| 10:00.27 | karl_w_w | you want me to raisin it? |
| 10:00.30 | airtonix | you'll get more flowering |
| 10:00.51 | airtonix | everyone loves professionaly cultured roses |
| 10:01.00 | airtonix | "roses" |
| 10:01.15 | karl_w_w | roses are awesome |
| 10:01.25 | karl_w_w | i like the strawberry creme one |
| 10:03.18 | VIad | karl: sometimes I cry myself to sleep when the dota 2 dedicated server software isn't available for public use :P |
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| 10:07.12 | karl_w_w | why would u need your own dedicated server |
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| 10:21.08 | karl_w_w | do you understand the TI4 tournament brackets VIad? |
| 10:21.31 | VIad | somewhat |
| 10:23.09 | VIad | karl_w_w: you watsh Ti4? :D |
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| 10:26.16 | d[karl]b | yes VIad, my team is winning 2 matches tonight to keep their hopes alive, I have forseen it |
| 10:26.21 | VIad | :D |
| 10:28.27 | d[karl]b | there are only 13 heroes left that haven't been picked or banned so I'm already wrong on that one |
| 10:29.15 | zenzelezz | Cairenn: http://i.imgur.com/tOHYwi6.gif |
| 10:29.58 | Cairenn | lol |
| 10:29.58 | d[karl]b | 12 actually, not 13 |
| 10:45.57 | VIad | d[karl]b |
| 10:46.00 | VIad | karl_w_w: |
| 10:46.12 | karl_w_w | is that so |
| 10:46.18 | VIad | ability draft: sniper with juxtapose, phantom edge, moon glaive, take aim |
| 10:46.26 | VIad | attack speed items, desolator :D |
| 10:46.32 | VIad | clooones |
| 10:46.33 | karl_w_w | sounds horrible |
| 10:46.45 | VIad | so many clones |
| 10:47.23 | karl_w_w | you deserve to lose |
| 10:47.29 | karl_w_w | with 4 passives |
| 10:48.00 | airtonix | karl_w_w knows all about losing |
| 10:48.27 | karl_w_w | I do |
| 10:48.38 | karl_w_w | I lose in ardm just earlier |
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| 12:43.24 | karl_w_w | http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/667711.html?CMP=OTC-RSS is that partnership good enough airtonix? |
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| 12:46.14 | airtonix | nah karl_w_w |
| 12:46.22 | airtonix | this is a partnership: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiv4EEH79cA |
| 12:46.40 | airtonix | afl: the game that likes to sponsor on field murder |
| 12:47.41 | karl_w_w | well there was a lot more hugging in that partnership |
| 13:01.03 | airtonix | i just love how the highlights of an australian league football youtube video is a guy trying to murder another guy in front of a couple hundred thousand people |
| 13:02.09 | airtonix | what shall we endorse this week? oh how about that guy trying to murder the other guy |
| 13:02.19 | airtonix | that's always good for a lark |
| 13:22.03 | zenzelezz | as if Australia wasn't already full of dangerous creatures |
| 13:24.34 | airtonix | we're the most dangerous here cuz |
| 13:28.26 | airtonix | make sure electronic devices, including mobile phones, can be powered on. Powerless devices will not be permitted onbaord aircraft |
| 13:28.27 | airtonix | wut |
| 13:29.41 | karl_w_w | u wot m8 |
| 13:30.03 | airtonix | Most visitors to the United States, including those seeking entry under the VWP, are required to have their fingerprints scanned by an inkless device and to have digital photographs taken on arrival. |
| 13:30.15 | airtonix | lulz |
| 13:30.28 | airtonix | jam it |
| 13:33.34 | karl_w_w | why would you visit the US |
| 13:34.21 | karl_w_w | they surveil us enough when we aren't there |
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| 13:47.14 | nevcairiel | Its not exactly news that you get photographed and fingerprinted when entering the US |
| 13:50.25 | VIad | airtonix: wtf - choking? |
| 13:51.10 | airtonix | apparently he was just resting his hand there and making sure his head wouldn't roll with the other |
| 13:51.16 | airtonix | common misunderstanding |
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| 14:09.47 | karl_w_w | ah throat lozenges |
| 14:09.54 | karl_w_w | one of the few upsides to illness |
| 14:10.02 | karl_w_w | up sides*? |
| 14:10.15 | karl_w_w | upsides. |
| 14:21.00 | zenzelezz | lozenges? |
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| 14:22.30 | Thunder_Child | Which is silly, since you can take them at any time. |
| 14:38.55 | karl_w_w | zenzelezz, a small medicinal tablet, originally in the shape of a lozenge, taken for sore throats and dissolved in the mouth. |
| 14:39.26 | karl_w_w | Thunder_Child, in my 1 experience of having them when I didn't have a sore throat, I ended up with a sore throat |
| 14:40.19 | zenzelezz | karl_w_w: aha |
| 14:48.55 | karl_w_w | http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2aiayf/video_of_chinese_player_reaction_in_the_dk_vs/civfa3d heheh |
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| 15:06.15 | karl_w_w | I feel cheated |
| 15:06.28 | karl_w_w | car on fire outside my house, no hollywood explosion |
| 15:15.44 | Maldivia | have the marshmellow ready? |
| 15:18.42 | karl_w_w | I'm too mallow for marshmellows |
| 15:46.05 | jleclanche | does anyone know a fast "my public ip" service which has a good curl api, does v4 *and* v6? |
| 16:00.09 | p3lim | jleclanche: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3097589/getting-my-public-ip-via-api |
| 16:00.30 | jleclanche | im not grepping |
| 16:00.43 | jleclanche | ifconfig.me has a good service, but its slow |
| 16:01.00 | jleclanche | and it doesnt do v6 which is more of an issue |
| 16:01.22 | jleclanche | same for ipinfo.io |
| 16:03.39 | p3lim | http://ipv6-test.com/api/ |
| 16:03.52 | p3lim | http://v4v6.ipv6-test.com/api/myip.php?json |
| 16:08.17 | sb | ip6.me / ip4.me |
| 16:08.53 | sb | ah, curl api... :D |
| 16:09.02 | sb | not so much |
| 16:13.09 | jleclanche | p3lim: ah cool! I didn't know ipv6-test had an api |
| 16:13.19 | jleclanche | now if only they had a good url .. :p |
| 16:13.34 | jleclanche | (and https....) |
| 16:15.45 | Maldivia | why would you need https for a "get-my-ip" request? |
| 16:18.37 | Stanzilla | sintAcks: hey |
| 16:18.40 | Stanzilla | patches welcome )= |
| 16:22.44 | p3lim | Stanzilla: did you get to test habeebit? |
| 16:28.54 | Mr_Rabies | i love habeebit! |
| 16:30.00 | Mr_Rabies | the name makes it basically impossible to search for on curse since they don't have description search but whatever it owns |
| 16:40.17 | jleclanche | Maldivia: why not? :) |
| 16:40.20 | Arrowmaster | im still a fan of moanmyip.com |
| 16:40.22 | jleclanche | https is nice! |
| 16:40.35 | jleclanche | p3lim: thanks btw. https://github.com/jleclanche/dotfiles/commit/64c66a49974851baf7b0ba7c9656658f25431386 |
| 16:40.50 | Alram | dammit |
| 16:40.58 | Alram | first episode of doctor who series 8 is online :( |
| 16:41.04 | Alram | guess the mp4s did leak |
| 16:41.22 | Alram | in black and white, with barely any cgi and a lot of watermarks but still |
| 16:41.27 | jleclanche | Alram: Currently playing "This Is Gallifrey: Our Childhood, Our Home" |
| 16:41.34 | Arrowmaster | but im not at home and have shitty interenet here! |
| 16:41.40 | jleclanche | funny coincidence, given that theres 2 DW songs in a set of 600 ish |
| 16:41.43 | p3lim | jleclanche: ifconfig.me didn't even load for me :p |
| 16:41.58 | jleclanche | yes its stupid slow |
| 16:42.14 | jleclanche | its actually in japan. |
| 16:42.14 | Mr_Rabies | flash episode 1 leaked too, i kinda want to watch it to preempt spoilers, but i'm a bit worried the Special FX are unfinished or something |
| 16:42.41 | jleclanche | when is the actual release supposed to be? |
| 16:42.52 | Maldivia | Mr_Rabies: pilot of constantine as well |
| 16:43.16 | Alram | flash is october |
| 16:43.18 | Alram | dw is august |
| 16:43.25 | jleclanche | eh, august, i can wait |
| 16:43.43 | Alram | same |
| 16:44.46 | Mr_Rabies | i really hope flash is as good as arrow season 2 was |
| 16:45.08 | Mr_Rabies | i really want a good ongoing dc universe of some sort on TV |
| 16:45.26 | Maldivia | Mr_Rabies: flash doesn't have john barrowman though |
| 16:45.42 | Alram | rumor has it that the new season of arrow has some more cross pollination with the flash and rest of the universe |
| 16:45.47 | Mr_Rabies | it does |
| 16:45.48 | Mr_Rabies | for sure |
| 16:45.51 | Alram | if its going the marvel way im super hyped |
| 16:45.53 | Mr_Rabies | Ollie's in the arrow pilot |
| 16:46.00 | Mr_Rabies | er |
| 16:46.01 | Mr_Rabies | Flash |
| 16:46.02 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 16:46.18 | Alram | fun |
| 16:46.26 | Mr_Rabies | and Season 2 of arrow had tons of non-green arrow-related characters |
| 16:46.33 | Mr_Rabies | hyphens |
| 16:47.21 | Dagmar | I will be upset if they mouseketeer the Flash |
| 16:47.38 | Dagmar | If he doesn't consume an entire buffet table at least once, they will have created a poseur |
| 16:50.04 | Mr_Rabies | well |
| 16:50.08 | Torhal | Dagmar: "mouseketeer the Flash" WAT |
| 16:50.17 | Mr_Rabies | to be fair, in the comics he doesn't have to eat any more than normal anymore |
| 16:50.21 | Semlar | wait is the guy who got struck by lightning the flash? |
| 16:50.29 | Mr_Rabies | yup |
| 16:50.31 | Torhal | ...yes? |
| 16:50.32 | Torhal | :D |
| 16:50.38 | Semlar | hey i don't read comics |
| 16:50.40 | Mr_Rabies | he didn't actually get hit by lightning, the chemicals in the room did |
| 16:50.51 | Mr_Rabies | at least well |
| 16:51.06 | Mr_Rabies | i can't really remember, but the chemicals getting hit is the important part :p |
| 16:51.38 | Mr_Rabies | that part in arrow where he was playing with the shelf full of chemicals going GEE I HOPE THESE DON'T GET HIT BY LIGHTNING was hilarious for comic nerds |
| 16:51.40 | Semlar | the whole place was lit up after they blew up the particle accelerator or whatever |
| 16:52.43 | Mr_Rabies | but yeah Dagmar in the comics Barry doesn't need to eat more than a normal person since the speed force handles a lot of explanation and whatnot |
| 16:52.53 | Semlar | magic |
| 16:52.54 | Mr_Rabies | i still thought that was a hilarious part of his character in JL/JLU, though |
| 16:53.27 | Mr_Rabies | that was Wally West though, who starts as Kid Flash |
| 16:54.36 | Mr_Rabies | Barry's nephew |
| 16:55.26 | Fisker | nepotism please |
| 16:57.03 | Torhal | Heh. Someone liked Dexter: http://i.imgur.com/eFY73e4.gif |
| 16:57.40 | jleclanche | lol |
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| 18:47.17 | Stanzilla | p3lim: yes, was fine! |
| 18:47.54 | p3lim | Stanzilla: Did it work on Galakras too? |
| 18:48.02 | Stanzilla | that I forgot of course :D |
| 18:48.08 | p3lim | :p |
| 18:48.10 | Stanzilla | wait |
| 18:48.12 | Stanzilla | I didnt |
| 18:48.14 | Stanzilla | ti worked |
| 18:48.29 | p3lim | good good |
| 18:48.33 | Stanzilla | might just do LFR some day too |
| 18:48.36 | Stanzilla | it's the first boss anyway |
| 18:49.15 | p3lim | let me know tho, just a confirmation that it works that holds a new release back |
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| 18:53.24 | Semlar | i used the boss name from the encounter journal to figure out what boss you were engaged with before the bonus roll popped up |
| 18:53.59 | Semlar | no hardcoding anything |
| 18:56.17 | p3lim | when the boss dies a spell triggers the bonus roll frame to show, I match that with encounterids (that will work with the loot filters) |
| 18:58.48 | Semlar | i basically just generated a table of [bossname] = encounterID (with all the subbosses and stuff) for the instance you were in |
| 18:58.59 | Semlar | using the EJ functions |
| 18:59.20 | Semlar | then it just kept track of what boss you last engaged |
| 18:59.28 | p3lim | aren't there events for when a boss fight starts? |
| 18:59.34 | p3lim | like specific events |
| 18:59.43 | Semlar | there probably are now |
| 18:59.52 | Semlar | there weren't when i wrote it in like pandaria beta |
| 19:00.45 | p3lim | pull the guid from the boss(es) and match that to the list you generate |
| 19:00.46 | Semlar | i think i shared my unfinished script when you started writing yours |
| 19:00.56 | p3lim | ah yeah I remember that |
| 19:01.24 | Semlar | i don't know how helpful it was but i had some of the EJ stuff that probably wasn't really documented |
| 19:01.32 | p3lim | still isn't really |
| 19:01.43 | Semlar | getting the item lists was a little quirky |
| 19:02.19 | p3lim | not that bad now: https://github.com/p3lim-wow/HabeebIt/blob/master/HabeebIt.lua#L232-L234 |
| 19:03.05 | Semlar | mine was more like just a miniature encounter journal that quickly let you pick a boss from the current instance and see what it dropped |
| 19:03.20 | Semlar | and it automatically set it to the last boss you were engaged with |
| 19:03.26 | p3lim | heh |
| 19:03.59 | Semlar | so if you wanted to see what dropped from the next boss you could select it from the dropdown |
| 19:05.31 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:06.32 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:06.48 | p3lim | looks more like a gear guide |
| 19:06.55 | p3lim | "go this way, kill that, receive this" |
| 19:07.13 | Semlar | yeah i used the boss icon from the map to figure out where the encounter was |
| 19:07.29 | Neffi_ | "YOU ARE HERE" lol |
| 19:07.37 | Semlar | >_> |
| 19:08.15 | p3lim | there we go |
| 19:08.19 | p3lim | tonumber(string.sub(UnitGUID('npc') or '', -12, -9), 16) |
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| 19:09.40 | Semlar | the names are localized so it doesn't really matter |
| 19:10.59 | Semlar | i don't know if the event that starts/ends the encounter tells you the id that matches anything in the journal |
| 19:12.43 | relaxok | lol |
| 19:13.03 | relaxok | i was just picturing a combat unit frame with the loot underneath it at all times |
| 19:13.05 | relaxok | moving around the screen |
| 19:13.26 | p3lim | Semlar: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/ENCOUNTER_END |
| 19:13.27 | relaxok | to get that extra effort out of your raiders |
| 19:13.42 | Semlar | oh well it has the encounter id |
| 19:13.47 | Semlar | so that's even simpler |
| 19:13.56 | p3lim | I might even use that.. hmm |
| 19:14.03 | p3lim | less maintaining work for me |
| 19:14.26 | Semlar | you could at least use it as a backup |
| 19:15.08 | Semlar | the only reason i can think of that you wouldn't have this event is if like you reloaded the game and lost the roll for some reason |
| 19:15.46 | p3lim | if you reloaded you'd lose the frame to roll as well, so the whole functionality of habeebit would be void |
| 19:15.54 | Semlar | no you can get the roll screen back |
| 19:15.59 | p3lim | how? |
| 19:16.07 | Semlar | if you call the api function it's still counting down until it expires |
| 19:16.15 | p3lim | lol yeah ofcourse |
| 19:16.18 | Semlar | even if you hit the cancel button you can get it back |
| 19:16.23 | p3lim | but in practical terms, nobody does that |
| 19:16.34 | Semlar | yeah i'm just saying it's possible |
| 19:16.49 | p3lim | and even then, the current way I'm doing things wouldn't work neither |
| 19:17.32 | Semlar | ah, there isn't anything tied to the roll frame i guess |
| 19:17.44 | p3lim | a spell that fires when a boss dies |
| 19:17.48 | p3lim | event* |
| 19:18.09 | p3lim | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/SPELL_CONFIRMATION_PROMPT |
| 19:18.40 | p3lim | arg1 is a spell that identifies which bonus roll frame details to show |
| 19:19.12 | p3lim | https://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/blob/e9e777a6d1baca29d6253260a69463767d8d9b00/FrameXML/UIParent.lua#L1050-L1053 |
| 19:19.34 | p3lim | which is what I'm currently using |
| 19:28.54 | Semlar | yeah i would just use the encounter event and get the drops from the id |
| 19:29.21 | p3lim | sending a minion out now to test it :) |
| 19:35.32 | relaxok | this language interface option frame will not go away |
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| 20:05.32 | Semlar | p3lim: the encounter id from encounter_end doesn't seem to be what EJ_GetEncounterInfo takes |
| 20:05.47 | p3lim | I'm aware |
| 20:05.59 | Semlar | what does it represent |
| 20:06.13 | p3lim | not sure if it's unique or just an incremental index on the server |
| 20:07.23 | jleclanche | what are the high quality monitor brands nowadays? still samsung? |
| 20:08.38 | p3lim | depends what for |
| 20:08.52 | jleclanche | giant 4k resolution terminals |
| 20:08.57 | p3lim | lg and asus is king for gaming monitors afaik |
| 20:09.01 | Semlar | it's not incremental |
| 20:09.14 | p3lim | Semlar: what bosses you testing on? |
| 20:09.38 | Semlar | i output the parameters from ENCOUNTER_START and END and i have them in my raid recordings |
| 20:09.54 | Semlar | sha of pride is 1604 in all of them |
| 20:10.01 | p3lim | I have the same ID |
| 20:10.33 | Semlar | it might match SOMETHING in the encounter journal |
| 20:10.46 | Semlar | although the name probably matches the name in the EJ |
| 20:10.55 | p3lim | looks like it |
| 20:12.33 | p3lim | do you have any data on worldbosses? |
| 20:14.35 | Semlar | no |
| 20:15.34 | Semlar | EJ_GetCreatureInfo(1, 825) which is sha of pride has 1626 for its ID, which isn't too far off from 1604 but that may be a coincidence |
| 20:16.33 | Semlar | i mean 867 |
| 20:22.38 | Semlar | i don't think they're connected though |
| 20:23.07 | Semlar | siegecrafter is 1601 from the encounter event and is like 2830 in the journal |
| 20:25.12 | p3lim | siegecrafter is 865 in EJ |
| 20:25.38 | Semlar | yeah but the id returned from EJ_GetCreatureInfo is 2830 |
| 20:25.46 | p3lim | ah, mobID ye |
| 20:26.38 | Semlar | the name from the event will probably match the one from the encounter journal but it's hard to say if that'll always work |
| 20:27.00 | p3lim | still want to find out what arg1 actually is |
| 20:27.02 | jleclanche | fyi guys this is data from journalencounter.dbc |
| 20:27.20 | p3lim | ? |
| 20:27.29 | jleclanche | all of this stuff can be extracted |
| 20:27.31 | jleclanche | just saying |
| 20:27.53 | p3lim | don't have a setup for that |
| 20:29.28 | p3lim | would those files have all the possible argument values of events, or is that polled from the servers? |
| 20:29.59 | p3lim | or rather sent I suppose |
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| 20:31.42 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:32.37 | Simca | those numbers where Sha of Pride is in the 800s are called "journalEncounterID" |
| 20:33.35 | jleclanche | p3lim: its all local |
| 20:33.42 | jleclanche | so files would have everything |
| 20:33.58 | Simca | there are 'journalEncounterSectionID' numbers that go up to 9000 or so |
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| 20:34.52 | p3lim | Simca: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/EJ_GetSectionInfo |
| 20:36.32 | Simca | i have all of the dbcs in csv, i'll search for '1604' and 'pride' on the same line |
| 20:36.36 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:36.52 | Semlar | i haven't found 1604 yet in a relevant context |
| 20:37.09 | Semlar | it's possibly something from the server |
| 20:37.19 | Semlar | or maybe just not associated with the journal |
| 20:37.26 | p3lim | seems like it |
| 20:38.06 | p3lim | I'd like to see if the names match up with each other tho |
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| 20:39.15 | Semlar | found it |
| 20:40.05 | Simca | "1604","","0","-1750","9","Sha of Pride","49098","6720","6" in DungeonEncounter.csv |
| 20:40.39 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:41.08 | p3lim | what do the columns represent? |
| 20:41.15 | Semlar | hell if i know |
| 20:41.21 | Semlar | 1136 appears to be SoO |
| 20:42.04 | Simca | ID, mapID, difficultyID, orderIndex, Bit, name_lang, CreatureDisplayID, spellIconID, flags |
| 20:42.07 | Simca | for WoD anyway |
| 20:45.05 | p3lim | Oh I was so right |
| 20:45.09 | p3lim | there's two galakras' |
| 20:45.49 | Semlar | there appear to be 2 in the journalencounter dbc |
| 20:46.21 | Semlar | 868 and 881 |
| 20:46.47 | Semlar | only 2 columns are different |
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| 20:49.13 | Semlar | since the names from the ENCOUNTER events and the EJ are stored in different files there is a chance that they might not match in some circumstances |
| 20:51.11 | Simca | well i mean the 1604 and 867 values for sha of pride says they don't match at all |
| 20:54.25 | Shirik | this is kinda neat http://news.distractify.com/culture/craigslist-surveillance-restaurant/?v=1 |
| 20:55.03 | Fisker | You're kind of neat Shirik |
| 20:56.18 | p3lim | how well do the names in DungeonEncounter match up with EJ? |
| 20:56.32 | p3lim | if they are currently 100% I'm gonna use that |
| 20:58.11 | Semlar | for SoO in english they're all the same |
| 20:58.40 | Semlar | actually |
| 20:58.58 | Semlar | the event has "Fallen Protectors" and EJ has "The Fallen Protectors" |
| 20:59.25 | Semlar | the rest look like they match |
| 20:59.33 | p3lim | what about rest of MoP? |
| 20:59.41 | Semlar | i am not checkin all that |
| 20:59.55 | p3lim | I'd check if I had the csvs :p |
| 21:01.00 | p3lim | Actually, how do I extract it? |
| 21:01.33 | Semlar | you can extract the dbc file with an mpq editor and open with a dbc viewer |
| 21:02.22 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:02.57 | Semlar | umm as for the dbc viewer i don't know |
| 21:03.02 | Semlar | i'm using a german one |
| 21:03.19 | Maldivia | poor Brazil :) |
| 21:04.00 | Semlar | i don't really want to link anything because i don't know if it has a virus |
| 21:04.08 | p3lim | lol |
| 21:04.33 | Stanzilla | link it |
| 21:05.53 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.06 | Stanzilla | how about teh official homepage |
| 21:06.07 | Stanzilla | :E |
| 21:06.22 | Semlar | i could not tell you where i got it if i wanted to |
| 21:06.33 | Neffi | are you breaking the law again, Semlar |
| 21:06.40 | Stanzilla | looks super legit |
| 21:06.43 | Stanzilla | "mydbceditor" |
| 21:06.44 | Stanzilla | lol |
| 21:07.36 | Semlar | i don't normally use it since my python script can just read the dbc files inside the mpqs |
| 21:07.56 | Semlar | but sometimes i like to be able to browse them with a ui |
| 21:09.11 | Fisker | Took me 5 seconds to find it Semlar |
| 21:09.18 | Semlar | it's from modcraft |
| 21:11.42 | p3lim | gonna stick with my setup for now, comparing strings is too risky |
| 21:12.05 | Semlar | you can still use the mob names from the encounter and compare them to the ones in the journal |
| 21:12.21 | Semlar | or their id |
| 21:12.24 | p3lim | the bossunits? |
| 21:12.28 | Semlar | yeah |
| 21:12.51 | Semlar | the encounter journal lists all of the main mobs associated with an encounter and you can compare those to the boss frames or whatever |
| 21:13.02 | Semlar | that shouldn't fail |
| 21:13.42 | Semlar | i think there are even events for the boss frames to show up |
| 21:14.20 | Stanzilla | instance_encounter_blabla_unit |
| 21:14.20 | VIad | hi Semlar:D |
| 21:14.25 | Semlar | vlad |
| 21:14.33 | Semlar | viad |
| 21:14.42 | VIad | you think they added events to indicate boss fightr start/end/wipe/reset e.g.? |
| 21:14.46 | p3lim | INSTANCE_ENCOUNTER_ENGAGE_UNIT |
| 21:14.56 | Semlar | they did add events for those |
| 21:15.00 | VIad | nice |
| 21:15.03 | VIad | what about nameplates? |
| 21:15.12 | relaxok | self:SetStatusBarTexture(1, 1, 1, "BORDER", -1); |
| 21:15.13 | relaxok | wtf? |
| 21:15.15 | VIad | any improvements to that front? |
| 21:15.17 | Semlar | the encounter events are currently in the game |
| 21:15.24 | Semlar | i have no idea what they added for WoD |
| 21:15.26 | relaxok | isnt it just ( texturefile, layer )? |
| 21:15.34 | Semlar | i highly doubt they added anything for nameplates because they never do |
| 21:15.35 | VIad | relaxok: you can specify RGB too |
| 21:15.35 | p3lim | VIad: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/ENCOUNTER_START and http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/ENCOUNTER_END |
| 21:15.46 | relaxok | VIad, ah |
| 21:15.59 | VIad | p3lim: ah, but it says encounterID |
| 21:16.05 | VIad | i.e. don't work for old raids :( |
| 21:16.12 | VIad | half way implementation |
| 21:16.17 | relaxok | VIad: what's the -1 in that case? |
| 21:16.20 | Semlar | the encounter id has nothing to do with the encounter journal |
| 21:16.32 | VIad | ah ok, thats good then :) |
| 21:16.34 | VIad | relaxok: hmm |
| 21:16.38 | p3lim | relaxok: framelayer |
| 21:16.44 | VIad | must be frame layer yes |
| 21:16.54 | relaxok | and what does layer -1 mean? |
| 21:16.56 | VIad | though I figured 0 was the lowest you could go :p |
| 21:17.02 | p3lim | 1 less than it's parent |
| 21:17.09 | relaxok | ok interesting |
| 21:17.21 | VIad | the new GUID looks promising |
| 21:17.24 | p3lim | framelayers are relative to their parents |
| 21:17.26 | Semlar | hogger is in here for the ENCOUNTER event |
| 21:17.26 | VIad | better than the current unit GUID :) |
| 21:17.27 | p3lim | afaik |
| 21:17.34 | relaxok | 07/12/14 14:12:36 - [WARNING] Invalid Frame Param: paernt |
| 21:17.35 | p3lim | GUID changes? |
| 21:17.35 | relaxok | fu |
| 21:17.47 | VIad | GUID yes :D |
| 21:17.52 | relaxok | <Frame name="BrowserSettingsTooltip" inherits="TooltipBorderedFrameTemplate" paernt="UIParent" frameStrata="FULLSCREEN_DIALOG" hidden="true" > |
| 21:17.56 | relaxok | > paernt |
| 21:18.27 | Semlar | deal with it |
| 21:18.38 | VIad | p3lim: players are "Player:[server ID]:[player UID]" |
| 21:18.48 | VIad | creatures are "[Unit type]:0:[server ID]:[instance ID]:[zone UID]:[Npc ID]:[Spawn UID]" |
| 21:19.02 | VIad | you only have to split by : now |
| 21:19.06 | VIad | and ready to go :) |
| 21:19.07 | p3lim | oh that is nice |
| 21:19.12 | VIad | yeah |
| 21:19.14 | p3lim | kinda like hyperlinks |
| 21:19.37 | VIad | I am very curious to see how it's on the nameplate end |
| 21:19.47 | VIad | I am afraid no changes, but one can wish :P |
| 21:19.52 | p3lim | the GUID changes is gonna break a lot of mods tho |
| 21:19.58 | VIad | you bet |
| 21:20.03 | Semlar | i wish they'd treat nameplates like unit frames |
| 21:20.10 | Semlar | because that's basically what they are |
| 21:20.19 | p3lim | they are, with the one exception of placement |
| 21:20.20 | VIad | just add "nameplate#" unit types |
| 21:20.24 | VIad | and we're all happy :D |
| 21:20.39 | Semlar | at least in terms of fetching information |
| 21:20.55 | p3lim | would love some events too |
| 21:20.59 | Semlar | you just shouldn't be able to use their unitID as a target or anything |
| 21:21.08 | p3lim | NAMEPLATE_SHOW and NAMEPLATE_HIDE, with id or GUID as args |
| 21:21.24 | VIad | would be nice to easily show auras on nameplates |
| 21:21.35 | p3lim | true |
| 21:22.03 | VIad | using PlateBuffs |
| 21:22.07 | VIad | oold addon |
| 21:22.36 | VIad | works but sooo much code, such bloat :( |
| 21:22.41 | VIad | to make the logic somewhat work |
| 21:22.51 | VIad | login to beta, server shutdown in 2 min |
| 21:22.52 | VIad | :P |
| 21:23.28 | Semlar | needs more nameplate api |
| 21:23.38 | VIad | hope they do worldmap fixes |
| 21:23.40 | VIad | overhauls |
| 21:23.42 | VIad | but probably not :p |
| 21:23.49 | VIad | except the obvious visual changes |
| 21:23.55 | Semlar | they merged it with the quest log |
| 21:24.08 | VIad | jupp |
| 21:24.13 | VIad | thats at least a nice front end change |
| 21:24.20 | VIad | how quest list changes when I change zone |
| 21:24.29 | VIad | and if I look at whole azeroth ALL quests are listed on the side |
| 21:24.43 | Semlar | now that would be useful |
| 21:24.46 | VIad | only need to make the "?" and area blobs thingies show on the zone map too |
| 21:24.47 | VIad | :P |
| 21:24.54 | VIad | so I can zoom out and see clearly what is closest and such |
| 21:25.04 | Semlar | the way they implemented blobs is really odd |
| 21:25.13 | Semlar | they aren't attached to the frame you draw them on |
| 21:25.19 | VIad | archaeology digsites too |
| 21:25.22 | Semlar | you have to redraw the blobs when you move the frame |
| 21:25.23 | VIad | they got their own frame widget |
| 21:25.57 | Semlar | i have the blobs drawn on my minimap so it shows all the blobs at once and they have to be redrawn basically onupdate |
| 21:26.12 | VIad | ugh :( |
| 21:26.17 | VIad | dislike that /run don't work :P |
| 21:26.24 | VIad | need to hack IsGMClient to return true |
| 21:26.34 | Semlar | hax! |
| 21:26.42 | VIad | need to /dump everything |
| 21:26.45 | VIad | starting with nameplates |
| 21:27.26 | Semlar | someone posted something to execute arbitrary lua on the ptr |
| 21:27.38 | Semlar | i don't know if it still works |
| 21:27.45 | VIad | fixed |
| 21:27.53 | VIad | added IsGMClient() check |
| 21:27.57 | VIad | before /dump runs |
| 21:27.58 | VIad | :P |
| 21:28.09 | Semlar | that's lame |
| 21:28.11 | VIad | well |
| 21:28.17 | VIad | can test when realms get back up |
| 21:28.25 | VIad | but I swear /dump didnt do anything for me |
| 21:28.36 | VIad | first thing I did when I got on beta last week was /dump :D |
| 21:28.45 | nevcairiel | dump was disabled as well |
| 21:28.47 | VIad | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:29.00 | nevcairiel | But they said addons may come soon |
| 21:29.06 | Maldivia | dump was disabled on beta when it hit beta, was avaialbe in alpha :P |
| 21:29.35 | Semlar | the 2 things i'd really like to see implements are nameplate api functions and the ability to get the global instance coordinates of the players without using the world map |
| 21:29.42 | VIad | people talk about hex editing atm |
| 21:29.43 | VIad | :P |
| 21:29.43 | Semlar | implemented* |
| 21:29.48 | VIad | memory patch to enable loading addons |
| 21:29.59 | Semlar | i'm sure blizzard would love that |
| 21:30.11 | VIad | I guess people can afford getting banned from beta:p |
| 21:30.17 | Maldivia | VIad: that has been practices in all previous betas, so nothing new ther e:) |
| 21:30.22 | Simca | they don't care unless it's live |
| 21:30.48 | Simca | you'd have to do something pretty insanely stupid to get banned from beta |
| 21:31.09 | Simca | maybe blantantly speed hacking at some scheduled blizz event where all the community managers were pvping or something |
| 21:31.22 | Maldivia | the things that annoys me the absolute most about stock UI, is no tooltip under mouse cursor |
| 21:34.33 | jleclanche | anyone wants to test an addon for me? wow is crashing again |
| 21:35.12 | VIad | "ExportInterface code" :( |
| 21:36.02 | relaxok | 07/12/14 14:12:35 - [WARNING] Invalid Ui Tag: Browser |
| 21:36.09 | relaxok | oh shit, some other frame type they added between mop release and now? |
| 21:36.12 | Simca | yes |
| 21:36.15 | Simca | 5.4 |
| 21:36.20 | relaxok | fuck |
| 21:36.37 | relaxok | is it all htmly and full featured or what? |
| 21:36.48 | VIad | limited only to their support site |
| 21:36.52 | Stanzilla | it's chrome |
| 21:36.57 | relaxok | oh good its chrome |
| 21:37.01 | relaxok | so just embedded |
| 21:37.03 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 21:37.09 | jleclanche | CEF! |
| 21:37.10 | Stanzilla | Chromium embedded framework |
| 21:37.11 | jleclanche | https://code.google.com/p/chromiumembedded/ |
| 21:37.12 | jleclanche | :3 |
| 21:37.13 | Stanzilla | thanks jerome |
| 21:37.16 | relaxok | thanks |
| 21:37.21 | jleclanche | you're welcome. |
| 21:37.27 | nevcairiel | CEF is fun to use |
| 21:37.47 | Stanzilla | their reason for not having a 64bit bnet app is CEF btw |
| 21:37.56 | jleclanche | eh? |
| 21:37.59 | Stanzilla | according to them it doesn not compile as 64bit |
| 21:38.04 | jleclanche | they use CEF in wow 64 |
| 21:38.06 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 21:38.06 | nevcairiel | They have 64bit CEF tho. :P |
| 21:38.08 | Stanzilla | that's the joke |
| 21:38.36 | Stanzilla | lemme find my post |
| 21:38.56 | Stanzilla | http://us.battle.net/en/forum/topic/11423622784#1 |
| 21:38.57 | Stanzilla | there |
| 21:39.03 | Stanzilla | I was facepalmed so hard, I even forgot to reply |
| 21:39.05 | relaxok | i guess i have to do parentArray now =( |
| 21:39.06 | Stanzilla | -was |
| 21:39.37 | nevcairiel | You keep annoying devs with your stupid 64 bit pestering anyway, no wonder they send the CMs out with silly answers. :P |
| 21:39.45 | Stanzilla | : = ) |
| 21:40.07 | VIad | enabling vsync halves fps :D |
| 21:40.09 | VIad | or more |
| 21:40.10 | VIad | funny |
| 21:40.14 | Simca | 64-bit battle.net app isn't really needed anyway |
| 21:40.26 | Stanzilla | I know |
| 21:40.35 | Stanzilla | I'm just a 64bit-i-want-everything-native nazi |
| 21:40.37 | Torhal | chops Stanzilla into 64 bits. |
| 21:40.53 | nevcairiel | I would more facepalm more at the guy talking about canceling his account because system unusable |
| 21:41.02 | nevcairiel | -more |
| 21:41.23 | Stanzilla | I think he actually meant the app himself |
| 21:41.40 | Stanzilla | it |
| 21:41.49 | nevcairiel | Even then, what does 64 bit fix there |
| 21:42.49 | Simca | the battle.net devs baffle me |
| 21:43.06 | Simca | I'm pretty sure they must spend 99% of their time spinning in office chairs |
| 21:43.16 | VIad | http://wod.wowhead.com/npc=76380#comments |
| 21:43.19 | VIad | Gorum /facepalm |
| 21:43.27 | Simca | because it is 2014 and you can't even press CTRL+B to bold your fonts on Battle.net forums |
| 21:43.30 | VIad | trying too hard |
| 21:43.31 | Maldivia | Simca: they spend a lot of time coming up with NGDP and CASC :) |
| 21:43.38 | Simca | so they certainly aren't doing any competent developing |
| 21:44.14 | nevcairiel | I think he meant the web devs Maldivia |
| 21:44.27 | Simca | it's the same team unfortunately |
| 21:45.48 | VIad | can someone direct me to the latest framexml export? |
| 21:45.56 | VIad | I got the diffs but I want the whole package :p |
| 21:46.06 | Maldivia | VIad: https://github.com/tomrus88/BlizzardInterfaceCode |
| 21:46.09 | VIad | thanks |
| 21:46.25 | nevcairiel | I still didn't get a new diff, didn't kd3 want to fix that last night? |
| 21:46.34 | Semlar | oops |
| 21:47.00 | relaxok | C_MapBar |
| 21:47.02 | relaxok | fu |
| 21:47.02 | Semlar | i set my locale variable inside the game and now it's patching itself |
| 21:47.12 | relaxok | i didnt expect there to be so much stuff between mop launch and now |
| 21:47.26 | relaxok | but i guess thats a long time ago now =D |
| 21:47.34 | nevcairiel | It ia |
| 21:47.37 | nevcairiel | Is |
| 21:47.54 | nevcairiel | And a new expansion is in the works! |
| 21:48.55 | VIad | btw during blizzcon they autologin using cvar "password ":p |
| 21:49.05 | VIad | i.e. at blizzcon read their wtf file :D |
| 21:49.35 | Stanzilla | throwaway accounts anyway |
| 21:49.39 | Stanzilla | who cares |
| 21:51.04 | Semlar | i have no idea how to get this to stop trying to patch in german |
| 21:51.13 | Semlar | i set it back to my normal locale and it's still patching |
| 21:51.30 | Maldivia | Semlar: it's in the agent.db so it will patch |
| 21:51.45 | Semlar | where is the file |
| 21:52.03 | Stanzilla | here, have some top class entertainment https://github.com/github/dmca/pull/42#issuecomment-48824646 |
| 21:52.03 | Maldivia | on win, in C:\ProgramData\Battle.net\Agent |
| 21:52.04 | Semlar | nevermind |
| 21:53.43 | Semlar | oh god it just overwrote my changes |
| 21:55.36 | Stanzilla | what are you trying to do aynway |
| 21:56.00 | g0urra | cure cancer |
| 21:56.12 | Semlar | i just want it to stop patching |
| 21:56.17 | Semlar | there's no stop button |
| 21:56.30 | Stanzilla | they broke it yesterday |
| 21:56.35 | Stanzilla | had to download tons of shit today |
| 21:57.07 | Semlar | basically i told the client it was german and then when i restarted it started patching itself and changing the locale back didn't stop it |
| 21:57.17 | Stanzilla | why would you do that |
| 21:57.27 | Semlar | i wanted to test something.. |
| 21:57.54 | Stanzilla | should not have used german then |
| 21:57.58 | Stanzilla | german can't be stopped |
| 21:58.02 | Semlar | nein |
| 21:58.06 | Stanzilla | you will see tomorrow |
| 21:59.48 | Semlar | alright good news the launcher no longer thinks warcraft is insalled |
| 22:00.08 | Semlar | i think i'll just let it finish |
| 22:00.41 | p3lim | Semlar: Can the first return of EJ_GetCreatureInfo() be tied to the GUID in any way? |
| 22:00.53 | Semlar | i don't know |
| 22:01.12 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure one of the returns from the EJ gives you the npc id |
| 22:01.16 | Semlar | which you can get out of the GUID |
| 22:01.21 | *** join/#wowuidev phyber (phyber@irssi.co.uk) |
| 22:01.21 | *** join/#wowuidev phyber (phyber@unaffiliated/phyber) |
| 22:01.31 | Semlar | but i don't remember if that's the one or not |
| 22:01.44 | Semlar | i gotta go but i be back laters |
| 22:02.15 | Semlar | you can check the return against the mob on wowhead |
| 22:02.24 | p3lim | different |
| 22:02.43 | Semlar | then it's something else |
| 22:03.02 | Semlar | i am like 98% sure you can get the npc id from the journal though |
| 22:03.11 | Semlar | i was using it for something |
| 22:03.21 | p3lim | let me know if you remember/find out |
| 22:05.13 | Semlar | alright, i'll check later |
| 22:05.26 | VIad | never understood |
| 22:05.27 | VIad | <Ui xmlns="http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/ |
| 22:05.27 | VIad | ..\FrameXML\UI.xsd"> |
| 22:05.46 | VIad | the schemalocation doesn't exist |
| 22:05.47 | VIad | :P |
| 22:05.53 | VIad | always been like that |
| 22:06.04 | VIad | thought those are supposed to forward you to some documentation or something |
| 22:16.10 | Maldivia | but the scheme does exist -- it is in FrameXML\UI.xsd |
| 22:17.43 | Maldivia | VIad: or what are you referring to? |
| 22:17.55 | Stanzilla | to http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/ |
| 22:18.02 | p3lim | I wonder if INSTANCE_ENCOUNTER_ENGAGE_UNIT fires for world bosses... |
| 22:18.15 | Stanzilla | p3lim: check bigwigs |
| 22:18.46 | Maldivia | schemaLocation="{namespace} {location}" -- namespace has nothing to do with where it's located |
| 22:19.10 | Maldivia | notice the whitespace between the two |
| 22:35.50 | zenzelezz | I really need to stop watching TV series. I always quickly end up hating the very guts of the "leader" character |
| 22:35.57 | zenzelezz | and the bad guys never win |
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| 22:47.53 | p3lim | zenzelezz: You should watch GoT |
| 22:48.47 | zenzelezz | p3lim: I do |
| 22:51.08 | nevcairiel | Which show are we hating today |
| 22:53.45 | zenzelezz | today, Jericho (yes, old). Previously The Walking Dead, Lost, Fargo, and a number of others whose names I don't recall right now |
| 22:54.42 | nevcairiel | Walking Dead seems like intentionally having a few hateable main charaxters |
| 22:54.56 | Kodiack | How could somebody hate Fargo, ya know?! |
| 22:55.08 | nevcairiel | Don't remember details about Jericho |
| 22:56.08 | zenzelezz | Kodiack: I don't hate the series, just the leading characters |
| 22:57.13 | Kodiack | Oh, talking about an actual show. I was thinking the movie. Carry on. |
| 22:57.43 | nevcairiel | The show is based on the movie |
| 22:58.23 | Kodiack | Ah. Not familiar with it. Might watch it at some point. I love the movie! |
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| 23:51.19 | Semlar | p3lim: there isn't any evidence that i ever used guids in my old script |
| 23:51.41 | Semlar | so i may have been thinking of the model information instead of the npc id |
| 23:51.47 | p3lim | I found some hiccups with world bosses anyways |
| 23:52.27 | Semlar | well i also used the combat log, targeting information and proximity on the map to identify the encounter |
| 23:53.13 | Semlar | mostly just failsafes |
| 23:56.35 | Semlar | world bosses don't appear to have boss frames, at least sha of anger doesn't |
| 23:59.16 | p3lim | that's the hiccup I found |
