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| 01:07.32 | Shirik | http://sadbrazilians.tumblr.com/ |
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| 02:14.35 | Wobin | Shirik: I reached GrimVault last night: http://screencast.com/t/0Yq9c3qX |
| 02:15.41 | Shirik | lmao |
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| 02:16.17 | Shirik | did you see my video from last night? |
| 02:16.22 | Shirik | we had a little fun |
| 02:16.55 | Shirik | https://www.facebook.com/matt.d.buono/posts/10100355834332338 |
| 02:21.44 | Wobin | so much death |
| 02:26.31 | Shirik | "Maine man wants FAA to change UAV regulations" |
| 02:26.33 | Shirik | why the fuck is this news |
| 02:26.44 | Shirik | literally every person in the world wants the FAA to change UAV regulations |
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| 02:35.50 | Shirik | "Voyager 2 has 25.67 of fuel remaining and also uses about five grams a week." |
| 02:36.20 | Shirik | "therefore, [has] enough fuel for decades of typical operations." |
| 02:36.27 | Shirik | let this be a lesson in UNITS ARE IMPORTANT |
| 02:37.17 | Amarande | Shirik: yeah, yesterday someone was going on about the new Foxconn robots that are said to each be able to manufacture 30,000 devices |
| 02:37.34 | Amarande | because it was left quite murky exactly what timeframe that was over |
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| 03:02.20 | Dagmar | Shirik: I think they should formalize the right of *all* Americans to bear armed UAVs |
| 03:04.25 | Shirik | HAHAHAHAHA |
| 03:04.40 | Shirik | Posted on Wikipedia's technical forum today: "I've configured phpMyAdmin so anyone can run SQL queries on their own. Enjoy! â Dispenser 5:04 pm, Today (UTCâ7)" |
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| 03:05.07 | Shirik | obviously, someone from wikimedia's tech team shut that down almost instantly |
| 03:05.24 | Shirik | but I can't believe someone is so dense as to allow anonymous access to phpMyAdmin ever |
| 03:05.47 | kd3 | how the |
| 03:06.25 | Dagmar | BELIEVE IT |
| 03:06.26 | Shirik | my favorite reason for why the tech intervened: "Because, amongst other things, phpMyAdmin is a security hole with secondary database features. " |
| 03:06.59 | Dagmar | I've had to warn two different sets of people to at least turn on Basic HTTP Auth this month |
| 03:07.12 | kd3 | did dispenser get his access revoked for that, at least? |
| 03:07.35 | Shirik | probably |
| 03:07.50 | Dagmar | Perhaps if you stripped out all of it's functionality and only allowed it to run a few stored queries |
| 03:08.02 | Dagmar | ...but then you might as well just write an interface for the stored queries and call it a day. |
| 03:10.12 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: https://pay.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/2a6zvr/mogushan_warden_has_been_renamed/ |
| 03:10.30 | Dagmar | ...or just go ahead and run DROP TABLES yourself and move along to the "restoring from backups" part of the program, because really... |
| 03:11.47 | Fisker | hides behind Shirik |
| 03:26.03 | Mr_Rabies | speaking of dropping |
| 03:26.10 | Mr_Rabies | my guild just dropped through the ground in SoO |
| 03:26.28 | kd3 | oh geez. (sfw) https://twitter.com/Pornhub/status/486620532343730176 |
| 03:27.27 | Mr_Rabies | that's a much tamer version of their super bowl tweet :p |
| 03:27.32 | Mr_Rabies | (they got backlash on that one) |
| 03:30.38 | Fisker | Idk kd3 my work certainly don't like me reading tweets from pornhub |
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| 03:52.01 | Wobin | Dagmar: UAVs armed with bears, imo |
| 03:59.54 | Wobin | "But I will just simply point out that I think that in academia we all agree that the temperature on Mars is exactly as it is here. Nobody will dispute that. Yet there are no coal mines on Mars, there's no factories on Mars that I'm aware of. So I think what we're looking at is something much greater than what we're going to do" |
| 04:00.03 | Wobin | wtf? |
| 04:00.06 | Wobin | http://www.nationaljournal.com/energy/kentucky-senator-on-global-warming-there-are-no-coal-mines-on-mars-20140708 |
| 04:05.14 | Iriel | thatâs a new one |
| 04:06.57 | Dagmar | Yes they just made the south that much dumber |
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| 04:54.58 | karl_w_w | jleclanche, oh yeah that's right, there's some kickball tournament going on |
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| 05:42.34 | Wobin | Cairenn: http://imgur.com/a/9Supc |
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| 08:46.40 | Shirik | rant of the day https://www.facebook.com/matt.d.buono/posts/10100356413182318 |
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| 09:30.53 | Mr_Rabies | it's weird but i almost have a sixth sense for knowing which programs will actually close |
| 09:31.06 | Mr_Rabies | i do like how steam does it, though, since it has multiple windows |
| 09:31.34 | Mr_Rabies | i wish there was an option maybe so that the close button on the store window could kill the program but that makes it weird since only one X closes the program |
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| 10:20.48 | karl_w_w | "<person> invited you to play Candy Crush Saga. 09:10" |
| 10:21.01 | karl_w_w | unfriendable offense |
| 10:25.17 | relaxok | what is the default pushed text offset? |
| 10:25.41 | relaxok | of a button |
| 10:27.46 | Workfoz | presumably the amount of pixels the text on the button moves when the button is pushed down? |
| 10:28.21 | relaxok | seems like 1,1? |
| 10:32.45 | Workfoz | not impossible, although it seems a bit subtle :D |
| 10:34.29 | relaxok | i just took screenshots and looked at the pixel location in paint.. roughly.. |
| 10:35.23 | karl_w_w | why not just look at the code :P |
| 10:38.21 | relaxok | it doesn't exist |
| 10:38.25 | relaxok | its somsething in the client |
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| 11:27.31 | p3lim | Stanzilla: Did it work fine? I'm completely unable to test :p |
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| 12:50.53 | mitch0 | gah, this spec was written by some brittish folks. I see "routeing" in every second sentence and it looks so wrong :\ |
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| 12:56.59 | Fisker | hugtackles Lopeppeppy |
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| 13:01.26 | Lopeppeppy | Yeeep! It's only Wednesday, tacklehugs are a Friday thing aren't they? |
| 13:02.22 | Constie | Well, it's Friday somewhere. |
| 13:02.36 | Constie | It's not. That's not how time zones work. |
| 13:09.17 | Fisker | idk Lopeppeppy |
| 13:09.24 | Fisker | Depends on my brains |
| 13:17.13 | Lopeppeppy | You has brains? |
| 13:17.35 | Fisker | yes |
| 13:17.42 | Fisker | One of my appreciated features |
| 13:20.12 | Lopeppeppy | Hawt. |
| 13:20.26 | Fisker | D: |
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| 13:30.55 | karl_w_w | mitch0, the defining factor isn't that the writers are british, it's that they can't spell |
| 13:32.02 | karl_w_w | Constie, a parallel universe is still a somewhere |
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| 13:33.47 | Workfoz | ? that's how you spell that in UK =p |
| 13:33.48 | Ressy | oooh. Constie's back. :) |
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| 13:39.52 | zenzelezz | mitch0: ever looked at the samba.conf? IIRC, "writable" is an alias for "writeable", which is the proper name for the setting; as well as a few other such ones |
| 13:40.13 | zenzelezz | or is it smb.conf |
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| 13:47.41 | Workfoz | ok, dictionary wrong, karl_w_w right |
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| 13:51.11 | mitch0 | :) |
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| 14:51.07 | karl_w_w | http://i.4cdn.org/b/1404915903259.gif accurate |
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| 16:18.11 | Lopeppeppy | Note to self: Do not click on 4chan links at work. |
| 16:18.29 | kd3 | o_O |
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| 16:20.29 | Fisker | hah Lopeppeppy |
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| 16:21.32 | Lopeppeppy | Not funny, Fiskerboo. |
| 16:21.55 | Fisker | I know |
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| 16:22.42 | Fisker | hope it didn't mess you up too much |
| 16:22.53 | bluspacecow | Fiskery fisker! |
| 16:22.57 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 16:23.03 | bluspacecow | hi! |
| 16:23.07 | Fisker | When will Blizzard care about european people again? |
| 16:23.30 | bluspacecow | when you give them the hot sexey times |
| 16:23.59 | Fisker | I am no stranger to hot sexey times |
| 16:24.04 | Lopeppeppy | The boobies were covered with some skimpy cloth, no harm no foul. |
| 16:24.33 | Fisker | You got off lucky Lopeppeppy :) |
| 16:24.54 | Lopeppeppy | I'm lucky I got off at all. /rimshot |
| 16:24.59 | Fisker | D: |
| 16:25.00 | Fisker | Boobies |
| 16:25.18 | Fisker | That's very commando of you |
| 16:26.45 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a rough and tough girl. |
| 16:27.10 | bluspacecow | http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/06/16/article-2004257-0C980F1800000578-164_634x431.jpg |
| 16:27.14 | bluspacecow | like dese ? |
| 16:33.28 | Fisker | I want my package bluspacecow |
| 16:36.00 | Shirik | here's a fun fact |
| 16:36.34 | Shirik | the median wage in the US is a penny every 2 seconds. This means that for every transaction between two people, every second wasted on a penny is worthless. |
| 16:43.09 | foxlit | http://www.wolframalpha.com/share/clip?f=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427etmst6clnm |
| 16:43.29 | foxlit | the internet says your fun fact is not, in fact, a fact, Shirik. |
| 16:44.19 | Fisker | .o/ foxlit |
| 16:45.22 | Shirik | hm http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/24/AR2006092400946.html |
| 16:45.37 | Shirik | "The median worker earns just over $36,000 a year, or about 0.5 cents per second" |
| 16:45.42 | Shirik | (in 2006) |
| 16:45.47 | Shirik | but I did the math, it doesn't add up |
| 16:45.52 | Shirik | they must be only taking working hours or something |
| 16:46.45 | Shirik | yeah, it's right if you assume 40 hours a week |
| 16:46.47 | Fisker | please you got served Shirik |
| 16:46.57 | Shirik | I never get served, Fisker |
| 16:47.02 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 16:47.04 | Shirik | people just can't see into my dimension of reality |
| 16:47.08 | Fisker | I'll serve you drinks |
| 16:47.11 | Fisker | please? |
| 16:48.10 | foxlit | itâs hand-wavy math anyway. |
| 16:48.49 | bluspacecow | jedi style hand wavy math ? |
| 16:49.19 | foxlit | âthe median workerâ is not the same thing as a person; and then thereâs the difference between the median $/hour salary and $$$/year income. |
| 16:50.35 | Fisker | I love waving foxlit |
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| 17:17.08 | Torhal | gives Fisker free botox. |
| 17:17.24 | Fisker | I don't want botox Torhal |
| 17:17.25 | Shirik | pets Lopeppeppy |
| 17:17.39 | Fisker | pets Shirik petting Lopeppeppy |
| 17:18.02 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik is a pander of cruel and painful information. |
| 17:18.26 | Torhal | The amount of implied condescension here is amazing. |
| 17:18.59 | zenzelezz | saw an interesting factoid on Twitter yesterday. Apparently a day on Venus is longer than a year on Venus |
| 17:20.14 | foxlit | and do you believe that? |
| 17:20.18 | Shirik | here want more Lopeppeppy? https://twitter.com/search?q=angle%20watching%20over&src=sprv |
| 17:20.54 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, how do you have a sane brain cell left? |
| 17:20.56 | zenzelezz | foxlit: didn't look it up, but I have no problem believeing it. IIRC, Venus is the one that spins backwards; and pretty slowly |
| 17:21.46 | Fisker | pls Lopeppeppy |
| 17:21.53 | Fisker | Is that a rhetorical question? |
| 17:22.27 | foxlit | spins âbackwards"? |
| 17:22.52 | Fisker | Jokes can be made |
| 17:23.16 | zenzelezz | foxlit: yes, spins the opposite way of all the other planets (around its own axis). I'll have to look this all up, you keep making me uncertain |
| 17:23.23 | zenzelezz | https://twitter.com/esascience/status/486527967695491072 |
| 17:24.08 | Shirik | how do we know it's not all the other planets that are spinning backwards? |
| 17:24.33 | Shirik | also, isn't that actually hard to do? I thought there was some kind of force that the sun would exert to oppose that spin |
| 17:24.38 | Shirik | maybe that's why it's so slow |
| 17:26.11 | zenzelezz | "All the planets of the Solar System orbit the Sun in an anti-clockwise direction as viewed from above the Earth's north pole. Most planets also rotate on their axes in an anti-clockwise direction, but Venus rotates clockwise (called "retrograde" rotation) once every 243 Earth daysâthe slowest rotation period of any planet" |
| 17:28.01 | foxlit | http://go-hero.net/i/goog.png |
| 17:28.51 | zenzelezz | foxlit: yes, so 225 days around the sun, 243 days around its own axis |
| 17:29.23 | foxlit | and 116 days around� |
| 17:29.42 | zenzelezz | you seem to be counting only earth-years |
| 17:30.30 | foxlit | but what do elephants have to do with the price of tea? |
| 17:30.46 | Fisker | throws foxlit's tea into the harbor |
| 17:33.42 | foxlit | zenzelezz: no, I seem to be thinking of a solar day instead of an orbital one. |
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| 18:23.53 | Ackis | http://www.buzzfeed.com/summeranne/before-and-after-rescue-doggies |
| 18:24.17 | bluspacecow | silly canook |
| 18:25.39 | Ackis | eh |
| 18:25.56 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:26.13 | Fisker | sneaks behind Lopeppeppy and scares her |
| 18:26.39 | bluspacecow | *sneaks behind fisker and wedgies him* |
| 18:27.52 | Lopeppeppy | Oh dear. Violence. |
| 18:28.05 | Fisker | Help :( |
| 18:28.14 | Fisker | bluspacecow is touching me in places I don't like |
| 18:28.23 | bluspacecow | shhhhh. donât struggle |
| 18:28.40 | bluspacecow | *pats gently* |
| 18:29.50 | Ressy | all sorts of creepy |
| 18:30.26 | Lopeppeppy | Not very nice. |
| 18:30.40 | Fisker | He's invading my personal space :(( |
| 18:30.53 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 18:39.35 | Fisker | good |
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| 19:03.43 | Fisker | hey foxlit http://i.imgur.com/9ny3dvf.gif |
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| 19:08.26 | Jamash | I'm glad I've been stockpiling hearthstone gold |
| 19:08.35 | Jamash | I was expecting 500g/wing |
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| 19:25.35 | foxlit | Fisker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNCh3DWPkRg |
| 19:25.54 | Fisker | But |
| 19:26.44 | Fisker | :( |
| 19:27.24 | Fisker | Where art thou going? |
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| 19:27.54 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:28.53 | Fisker | ok |
| 19:32.28 | Fisker | I'm bored foxlit |
| 19:38.06 | Neffi | Fisker: http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6fs1sVJIw1qcb5fko1_500.jpg |
| 19:42.38 | Fisker | You're a board |
| 20:01.11 | kd3|hate`net | and here we go |
| 20:01.32 | foxlit | where are we going? |
| 20:01.49 | kd3 | the ned-arg match. wondering if there's another blowout in the wings |
| 20:05.11 | Maldivia | if only I had a HD stream for it :/ |
| 20:13.13 | Fisker | Oi |
| 20:13.35 | Fisker | Looking forward to that ludicrous display |
| 20:18.52 | Fisker | tickles Lopeppeppy |
| 20:19.28 | Fisker | You're going home soon :( |
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| 20:26.30 | Lopeppeppy | Yes I am. I am crushed by my inability to find a Captain America laptop skin from someone who either 1) accepts US orders or 2) makes one for PCs. Apparently only people with Macs should like Cap. |
| 20:27.01 | Fisker | hugs Lopeppeppy |
| 20:27.10 | Fisker | Damn Mac accessories |
| 20:27.30 | Lopeppeppy | Mactops can do die in a fire. |
| 20:27.40 | Fisker | Do you mean like a bag or a sticker? |
| 20:27.45 | Mr_Rabies | i can make you one Lopeppeppy, unfortunately it can only be a rendering of the Rob Liefeld Cap design |
| 20:28.19 | Fisker | Because that'll be my job for tomorrow |
| 20:28.45 | Mr_Rabies | http://0.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com/55/55/11c5dae986ee6dbc5937c37d7f6b834f-if-chris-evans-looked-like-rob-liefelds-captain-america.jpg either this |
| 20:28.56 | Mr_Rabies | or this http://www.dubnerdesign.com/images/capnameric.jpeg |
| 20:29.17 | Lopeppeppy | Sticker, Fisker. http://www.diabloskinz.com/15-laptop-skins---captain-america-shield-305854-p.asp has been the best I've found, if I can wait a month or so for it. |
| 20:29.21 | Fisker | Hah the first one would've been funny |
| 20:29.49 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, but while I like Cap, I don't like THAT MUCH of him. :P |
| 20:30.06 | Mr_Rabies | i'm sure there are all kinds of places that let you do custom designs |
| 20:30.52 | Mr_Rabies | then you jsut gotta find a good design |
| 20:31.38 | Mr_Rabies | (and someone who doesn't care about printing a copywrited character/image for personal use) |
| 20:31.38 | Lopeppeppy | Custom design with copyrighted images? Dunno. |
| 20:31.52 | Mr_Rabies | that diabloskinz thing certainly isn't licensed :p |
| 20:33.47 | Mr_Rabies | i totally want a rad jack kirby art poster one of these days :( |
| 20:34.02 | Fisker | Probably better made though |
| 20:34.43 | Shirik | kd3: have you seen this knights of sidonia? |
| 20:35.09 | Lopeppeppy | Huh, Zazzle may fix me up. Mr_Rabies, you are genius. |
| 20:35.39 | Mr_Rabies | marvel's product licensing is scaling down at the moment |
| 20:35.52 | Mr_Rabies | probably so disney can fire up their own licensing |
| 20:36.13 | Mr_Rabies | i'd love a cleaned up version of something like this as a poster https://marswillsendnomore.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/mister-miracle-jack-kirby-scans053.jpg |
| 20:36.47 | Lopeppeppy | I'll check my laptop size and order it tomorrow. *kiss kiss* |
| 20:37.37 | Fisker | You took my job :( |
| 20:38.25 | Fisker | cries at the nearest foxlit |
| 20:38.32 | Mr_Rabies | 2bad |
| 20:40.38 | relaxok | in a <Backdrop> how does the game know what texture coordinates to use for the edge texture you set? |
| 20:40.42 | relaxok | since they're not defined |
| 20:41.14 | relaxok | the usual one is a composite of corners/etc so it needs hardcoded texture coords somewhere i guess.. maybe yo uhave to make one with the same size/locations? |
| 20:42.35 | Gethe | it uses pixel offests (edgesize) not texture coords |
| 20:43.42 | Gethe | each edge is offset from the previous |
| 20:44.11 | relaxok | ah i see |
| 20:45.08 | relaxok | what does it do for the top and bottom line horizontal stretching? |
| 20:45.31 | relaxok | i guess it must use some of the top/bottom pieces inbetween the normal offsets |
| 20:46.17 | Ackis | website I'm trying to access has been blocked because it's classified as "Health;Malicious Sources/Malnets" <-- where can I find the definition of each of those categories? I have no idea what we're using here to block it even |
| 20:46.29 | relaxok | if you just look at UI-Tooltip-Border, which is usually used as edgesize 16, there's 8 x 16 in the width of it, which would correspond to 8 pieces across |
| 20:46.35 | relaxok | but none of those would in and of themselves be the horizontal lines |
| 20:46.39 | relaxok | to tile |
| 20:48.21 | Gethe | ah it would rotate them i'd assume, but i havent looked at that very much |
| 20:48.47 | relaxok | maybe swap x and y tex coords? |
| 20:48.51 | relaxok | or whatever |
| 20:48.56 | relaxok | however that works mathematically |
| 20:49.03 | Gethe | posibly |
| 20:53.58 | Gethe | actually it might be that the texture are determined on the back end with width / 8 then resized by EdgeSize. there are a few places where edgesize is < 16 |
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| 21:50.15 | zenzelezz | looks like there are just no goals left after yesterday's game |
| 21:51.10 | Maldivia | they are both playing so defensive... |
| 21:51.24 | Maldivia | there has been, what, 2 real chances? |
| 21:52.44 | Maldivia | but if the last 10 minutes are indication of how it'll look in ET, then the next 2x15 looks a lot more entertaining than the first 80 minutes |
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| 22:07.20 | Shirik | success! |
| 22:07.33 | Shirik | I now have two support teams blaming each other for the other's product |
| 22:07.50 | Shirik | Perforce is complaining that the command Fisheye is running isn't useful and shouldn't be run |
| 22:08.01 | Shirik | and Fisheye is complaining Perforce shouldn't yield an error when no error condition exists |
| 22:09.20 | Maldivia | heheh |
| 22:11.50 | kd3 | can you do the hold two phones up to each other thing to get the support teams talking to one another? |
| 22:26.53 | kd3 | new build finally |
| 22:27.40 | Maldivia | wow-beta? |
| 22:27.45 | kd3 | ya |
| 22:27.50 | kd3 | 18522 |
| 22:27.53 | Maldivia | psh, that's like 18 minutes ago :) |
| 22:28.07 | kd3 | meh |
| 22:29.24 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 22:29.55 | Maldivia | hopefully it fixes some of the stability issues that's been plagueing the servers |
| 22:35.26 | Neffi | Playing OoT again; holy god that owl is the most infuriating thing in a video game |
| 22:39.29 | Mr_Rabies | have you seen the Zelda Sequelitis video yet Neffi? |
| 22:41.50 | Neffi | no, Mr_Rabies |
| 22:42.10 | Neffi | OoT was the only Zelda I really played through |
| 22:42.33 | Mr_Rabies | it's pretty good, though I don't agree with Egoraptor on every point, and also the game kinda needs a bit of leeway since it is the first foray into a 3D Zelda game |
| 22:43.01 | Mr_Rabies | also the N64 controller really suffers from having only one analog stick (also since you know, first generation of 3d consoles) |
| 22:44.10 | Constie | The Sequelitis video was kind of a surprise for me because I had never really considered the idea of ALttP having flaws. |
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| 22:45.21 | Mr_Rabies | it's kind of unfair to compare the refined honed almost perfect 2D Zelda game after a ton of iterations to the very first 3D one and expect the same flowthrough to be there |
| 22:45.33 | Constie | Yeah, that's fair. |
| 22:49.01 | Constie | I don't remember if it was Egoraptor or someone else who talked a lot about how especially the first Zelda had a lot more freedom and exploration, but that's also probably easier to accomplish in a good way in 2D. |
| 22:49.44 | Neffi | Mr_Rabies: A deconstruction of OoT? |
| 22:49.52 | Constie | If nothing else, I'm willing to give OoT a pass because of diving down that big waterfall. |
| 22:50.12 | Neffi | That might make me a little upset. OoT is still in my top 5 games of all time, and I consider it a breakthrough for its time |
| 22:50.14 | Mr_Rabies | the sequelitis series compares earlier and later iterations of game series |
| 22:50.26 | Constie | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOC3vixnj_0 |
| 22:50.48 | Neffi | cool. I'll keep it on in the background while I play |
| 22:50.56 | Mr_Rabies | Arin really doesn't like Ocarina of time, and I think his argument has some merit, but I can't agree with everything he says |
| 22:51.57 | Mr_Rabies | i think the later zelda games probably could benefit from branching away a bit from OoT's formula |
| 22:52.02 | Mr_Rabies | i think maybe Dark Souls will help with that |
| 22:52.10 | Mr_Rabies | since it's basically OoT but better, gameplay wise |
| 22:52.52 | Mr_Rabies | you don't have to stop what you're doing to aim a bow, though you can if you want |
| 22:53.13 | Mr_Rabies | you can just take the bow out and use "z targeting" while moving to shoot it at critters |
| 22:53.33 | Mr_Rabies | and having a second analog stick helps a lot |
| 22:53.38 | Sintacks | Stanzilla / nebula169 -- does WeakAuras support cross realm sharing yet and if not, why not. lazy butts. |
| 22:53.51 | Stanzilla | it should |
| 22:53.53 | Stanzilla | I think |
| 22:53.56 | Stanzilla | patches welcome |
| 22:54.00 | Sintacks | yeah.. no. |
| 22:54.06 | Sintacks | do it. |
| 22:54.07 | Sintacks | nao |
| 22:54.12 | Mr_Rabies | also, it seems MMOUI minion 2.0 now supports WoW :O |
| 22:54.27 | Sintacks | even more important with cross realm raiding so much more ... out there. |
| 22:54.31 | Sintacks | i could have said that cleaner. |
| 22:54.33 | Stanzilla | patches welcome |
| 22:54.37 | Mr_Rabies | it seems like it's a bit of a soft launch as it's not 100% complete yet, and it's having a hell of a time finding version info |
| 22:54.47 | Stanzilla | wtf minion is alive? |
| 22:54.51 | Stanzilla | who does it now? |
| 22:55.02 | Mr_Rabies | yup |
| 22:55.16 | Mr_Rabies | really hope it gives curse client a run for its money |
| 22:55.37 | Stanzilla | who's the coder? |
| 22:55.39 | Neffi | Constie: lol wtf. this guy does too many drugs |
| 22:55.46 | Mr_Rabies | http://minion.mmoui.com/ |
| 22:55.59 | Mr_Rabies | not sure |
| 22:56.03 | Mr_Rabies | seems to be a team at ZAM |
| 22:56.49 | Mr_Rabies | no ads, auto update, update all functionality |
| 22:57.12 | Mr_Rabies | way faster once it loads (though right now it takes forever to load initially) |
| 22:59.14 | Mr_Rabies | i'd love for some competition for curse client, i use it only out of (essential) necessity but it's kinda crap without a curse premium account |
| 23:00.00 | Stanzilla | yeah it really is |
| 23:00.09 | Stanzilla | so glad I don't have to use it without premium |
| 23:01.32 | Mr_Rabies | i wish curse premium was worth it, but it's not just to use a program that should work well without the monthly fee |
| 23:01.37 | Constie | I feel like I don't update addons often enough to warrant using one of those. |
| 23:01.38 | Kaelten | Mr_Rabies: changes are coming that will make it better for everyone |
| 23:01.44 | Mr_Rabies | there's not really any other benefit unless you're way into the curse community |
| 23:02.09 | Kaelten | in the v6 client we're removing the ads for everyone, and removing a few of the throttles |
| 23:02.18 | Stanzilla | good |
| 23:02.21 | Mr_Rabies | i like the program well enough but i feel it's hamstrung by business |
| 23:02.32 | Mr_Rabies | this is why i think competition's good, Kaelten :D |
| 23:02.34 | Dashkal | Kaelten: *blinks* Seriously? |
| 23:02.36 | Kaelten | going to be adding mroe features long run that will make Premium more compelling |
| 23:02.41 | Dashkal | Ahh |
| 23:02.50 | Mr_Rabies | the battle between you guys for the best client will benefit users a lot, i think |
| 23:02.54 | Stanzilla | Kaelten: I want a voice changer for premium users! |
| 23:02.58 | Stanzilla | wanna sound like a girl |
| 23:02.58 | Stanzilla | pls |
| 23:03.07 | Kaelten | Mr_Rabies: competition is great, but that's not why we're doing it. :) |
| 23:03.09 | Kaelten | Dashkal: yes :) |
| 23:03.10 | Kaelten | Stanzilla: hehe, that's been joked around about here, lol |
| 23:03.13 | Mr_Rabies | there's a voice changer but only two settings Stanzilla |
| 23:03.28 | Mr_Rabies | Bane and Batman from the Dark Knight Series |
| 23:03.32 | Stanzilla | nice |
| 23:03.58 | Stanzilla | Kaelten: when can I start alpha testing that client? |
| 23:04.09 | Mr_Rabies | i'd love to see it without so many limitations |
| 23:04.21 | Mr_Rabies | that month of curse premium i got right when cata launched was glorious |
| 23:04.28 | Mr_Rabies | free month :p |
| 23:05.07 | Kaelten | Stanzilla: it's currently out as the CurseVoice client ;) |
| 23:05.22 | Stanzilla | Kaelten: I know |
| 23:05.26 | Stanzilla | I meant the wow module |
| 23:05.38 | Kaelten | next is the Minecraft module |
| 23:05.40 | Kaelten | we'll be redoing WoW soon after that |
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| 23:06.01 | Stanzilla | meh, fuck minecraft! |
| 23:06.29 | Dashkal | Hey! |
| 23:06.36 | Kaelten | lol, minecraft is awesome |
| 23:06.38 | Dashkal | I play both, tyvm |
| 23:08.07 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 23:08.25 | Mr_Rabies | i recently got hooked on Space Engineers |
| 23:09.01 | Amarande | oh, good, ZAM does also own MMOUI |
| 23:09.09 | Mr_Rabies | i built a giant mobile drilling platform that can drill straight through a meteor and harvest its resources |
| 23:09.10 | Amarande | I was going to say ... if they didn't, I was about to feel like a very sad Orc |
| 23:09.34 | Amarande | (because that would have meant another site would have stooped to the "client that steals addons" paradigm, which would then actually make Wowhead an anathema ... which would SUCK for the community) |
| 23:09.47 | Mr_Rabies | but you can also fly it as a ship from meteor to meteor, or use a ship as a tug if needed |
| 23:10.00 | Amarande | I was actually never sure before if the *head sites and the *interface sites are owned by the same group heh |
| 23:10.15 | Mr_Rabies | yup, they're both zam as of a few years ago |
| 23:10.44 | Amarande | also, is it true that without curse premium, curse client uses an alarming amount of continuous bandwidth for its ads? |
| 23:10.52 | Amarande | I heard someone saying the client was using as much as 400kb/sec |
| 23:10.57 | Mr_Rabies | i think wowinterface and the rest of the MMOUI sites were bought by zam's second wave of purchases? |
| 23:11.09 | Amarande | that's scary in today's age of data caps :( |
| 23:11.41 | Amarande | though really what makes me sad is that apparently, games, or at least WoW, aren't a geek thing anymore ... they're just another mainstream media :( |
| 23:11.49 | Amarande | at least judging by the ads I've seen lately |
| 23:12.07 | Kaelten | Amarande: not continuous no. |
| 23:12.11 | Kaelten | Amarande: and the ads are going away regardless |
| 23:12.15 | Amarande | Used to be you'd get an ad for the latest AAA title or for Hearthstone or for some tech related thing (maybe the same thing you just looked at - or heh, just bought - on newegg or tiger) |
| 23:12.34 | Amarande | now it's just the same ads for Tide and Downy and toilet paper and insurance as everything else :( |
| 23:12.54 | Amarande | just like the same kind you get on mainstream TV |
| 23:12.57 | Amarande | I miss the geeky ads :( |
| 23:13.29 | Sintacks | Stanzilla, what part of the addon is sharing in? |
| 23:13.41 | Stanzilla | Sintacks: transmission.lua |
| 23:13.50 | Amarande | Mind you sometimes I got an ad that I found humourous |
| 23:14.00 | Amarande | I still remember that one that says "what's the right move?" and showed a Tic Tac Toe board |
| 23:14.12 | Amarande | ... except that the Tic Tac Toe board was such that no matter what move you make in that position you lose, LOL |
| 23:15.23 | Mr_Rabies | i think they're based on your IE cookies, Amarande |
| 23:15.31 | Mr_Rabies | they definitely look at something for targeting ads |
| 23:15.52 | Amarande | heh, IE cookies might explain why the Curse Client ads always seem so bland mainstream then |
| 23:15.56 | Amarande | since I barely ever even use IE |
| 23:16.04 | Sintacks | Stanzilla, too bad none of this has comments.... |
| 23:16.06 | Amarande | doesn't explain why you get ads for Tide on wowhead nowadays though :( |
| 23:16.19 | Stanzilla | Sintacks: :D |
| 23:16.30 | kd3 | if the ad auction doesn't come through with a specialized ad, there are always general ones |
| 23:16.31 | Sintacks | I'll find you, and stab you. |
| 23:16.35 | relaxok | Gethe: getting closer! http://bh.polpo.org/ui_ip_login_2.png |
| 23:16.49 | Stanzilla | Sintacks: I spent half the day trying to fix the new gold scamming method |
| 23:16.58 | Amarande | Heh when do I use IE anyway ... probably only when I first install Windows or when some other application (such as some F2P games with ingame stores) embeds it |
| 23:17.00 | Stanzilla | enough weakaura code for today |
| 23:17.06 | Gethe | cheers for relaxok |
| 23:17.17 | Amarande | Stanzilla: people used weakauras to scam gold? |
| 23:17.26 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 23:17.30 | Amarande | how, the heck does that work |
| 23:17.39 | Kaelten | Amarande: ads suck sadly :( |
| 23:17.44 | Sintacks | custom trigger to mail go to someone when you visit a mailbox. |
| 23:17.46 | Stanzilla | trade api is accessible via addons |
| 23:17.48 | Stanzilla | go figure |
| 23:18.09 | Sintacks | makes an aura to delete all your gear and shares it with /2 saying it will inc your deeps. |
| 23:18.12 | kd3 | that's something I'm still confused about - how the hell does WA let you pass strings around that make random api calls |
| 23:18.16 | Amarande | but weakauras doesn't even engage in trade |
| 23:18.36 | Stanzilla | kd3: just have to find someone to accept an aura |
| 23:18.39 | Amarande | hell, it shouldn't even interact with other players at all ... it's an informational addon for your auras heh |
| 23:18.47 | Stanzilla | today the aura created a frame, registered addon comms with it |
| 23:18.48 | Stanzilla | boom |
| 23:18.57 | Stanzilla | can send him any code I want and execute it |
| 23:19.04 | Amarande | ah, there some sort of thing where you can exchange aura settings with other users or something? |
| 23:19.12 | Sintacks | yes |
| 23:19.22 | Sintacks | which is what i'm working on making work cross realm. |
| 23:19.34 | Amarande | I'm still wondering what the usecase for that would be anyway |
| 23:19.35 | Sintacks | because wehen we have someone trialing that's not on our server, we have to pastebin an aura. |
| 23:19.43 | Stanzilla | don't be retarded, Amarande |
| 23:19.47 | Stanzilla | it's super useful |
| 23:19.51 | Stanzilla | sharing stuff in guild/raid |
| 23:19.53 | Amarande | when I think of "auras" I think of buffs and debuffs |
| 23:20.26 | relaxok | Gethe: now to figure out why the left and right sides are so different |
| 23:20.37 | Amarande | as in the sort of things used with "/cancelaura" and similar things |
| 23:20.57 | Stanzilla | Amarande: you can do everything with it |
| 23:21.08 | Stanzilla | I suggest you look at the addon description |
| 23:22.05 | Amarande | Stanzilla: you're not on wowi? :( |
| 23:22.13 | Stanzilla | I am |
| 23:22.18 | Stanzilla | but weakauras is not atm |
| 23:22.41 | zenzelezz | http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/07/how-one-kickstarter-project-squandered-3-5-million/ - not exactly unheard of, but still |
| 23:22.45 | Sintacks | I use weakauras to make addons... so to speak. |
| 23:22.54 | Sintacks | instead of making an addon, i'll write an aura for it. |
| 23:22.58 | Sintacks | i've done it with 4 things. heh. |
| 23:23.06 | Sintacks | even though it would make more sense to just make an addon for it ... |
| 23:24.16 | Sintacks | also, Stanzilla, wtb load/unload settings for gear equip so you don't have to add that into a trigger... so that it's always loaded but is constantly chjecking the triggers ....... |
| 23:24.24 | Stanzilla | patches welcome |
| 23:24.30 | Sintacks | i hate you |
| 23:24.32 | Sintacks | and nebula169 |
| 23:24.33 | Sintacks | lol |
| 23:24.37 | Stanzilla | he's innocent |
| 23:24.49 | Stanzilla | just hate me |
| 23:24.57 | Sintacks | he said the same thing when i first mentioned cross realm sharing. |
| 23:25.01 | Sintacks | i think he did at least. |
| 23:25.01 | Sintacks | idk. |
| 23:25.05 | Sintacks | maybe he didn't. |
| 23:25.11 | Sintacks | slaps Stanzilla around a bit with a large trout | 4,889 tributes to Monty Python |
| 23:25.20 | Stanzilla | I'm turning it into a community project |
| 23:25.27 | Stanzilla | because I'm a lousy coder |
| 23:25.36 | Sintacks | s/lousy/lazy/ |
| 23:25.55 | Stanzilla | probably, too |
| 23:26.07 | Amarande | zenzelezz: heh, kickstarter debacles happen |
| 23:26.19 | Amarande | hell, the one time I backed a project on kickstarter I only ended up with part of what I originally was supposed to get |
| 23:26.25 | Amarande | it was the part I wanted the most, but still ... heh |
| 23:26.40 | Sintacks | the most pointless aura I have. just makes a texture spin in circles, constantly when 1 = 1. so that i have something on my screen that is always moving, so i can tell more easily if i've locked up. |
| 23:26.45 | Amarande | mind you I can't say I blame the project for failing to deliver fully |
| 23:27.02 | Amarande | it was a book, for which I got my name in the credits and a PDF copy, but did not receive the physical copy that was originally meant to come with that tier |
| 23:27.15 | Amarande | and apparently around then it DOES seem like there was a huge spike in costs for book publishers |
| 23:27.39 | Amarande | (apparently, the budget was no longer adequate to deliver everyone at the appropriate tier a print copy anymore due to price hikes at supply side) |
| 23:27.44 | Sintacks | I trired to make one that should show the duration of a noodle cart, but the events thatr fire when someone gets into one and leaves one don't exist properly. |
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| 23:31.15 | Amarande | I remember around the same time smaller-publisher books at Dragon Con were way more expensive than they used to be |
| 23:34.27 | Sintacks | three of these non-aura WeakAuras, I could combine into one aura tbh. |
| 23:35.27 | Sintacks | one prints if Nazgrim heals, one prints when someone gets stunned by whriling on paragons, and one sets a mark on someone when they get set to blow on them, so that it's logged to chat who had it last. so we can yell at someone when they fuck up. |
| 23:35.50 | Sintacks | and all three are CLEU custom events. |
| 23:37.12 | Stanzilla | yeah you should |
| 23:37.40 | Amarande | zenzelezz: hrm, according to one of those comments on Ars the SEC is working on codified rules for "equity crowd funding" as kickstarter is called |
| 23:37.52 | Amarande | hopefully they don't end up killing kickstarter altogether :| |
| 23:39.17 | zenzelezz | guess we'll see soon enough |
| 23:39.18 | Amarande | mostly it seems ominous because the SEC has been well known to set horrendously high bars to any form of investing that isn't standard exchange stock, moneymarket, and mutual fund stuff :| |
| 23:39.36 | Amarande | and apparently, you're not to consider yourself a sophisticated investor unless you are a millionaire |
| 23:40.06 | Amarande | I'm not sure how they think that being rich makes you a sophisticated investor (hell, how many lotto winners lose the whole thing in an eyeblink?) but apparently for some reason they do :P |
| 23:41.03 | Amarande | mind you it'd be just the thing they'd want to do, so that even more independent projects are forced to fall under the sway of the desires of Big Money |
| 23:41.53 | Amarande | just like how a lot of business things (patents etc.) are kept really expensive even for small businesses with the result that they gotta go get them loans and then be at the mercy of the cashman who expects a return |
| 23:42.41 | Amarande | easy crowdfunding seems like exactly something the powers that be would like to squish, and get to do so with a "it's for your good" sermon *sigh* |
| 23:46.17 | Amarande | zenzelezz: you getting the feeling the decision's going to be gloomy too, btw? |
| 23:46.37 | Amarande | (especially in light of past regulations put on non-"normal" investments) |
| 23:47.36 | Amarande | oh, it also makes sure that another way to opening a biz without having Big Money's blessing is closed, which in turn makes sure that most people cannot form a business :| |
| 23:48.18 | Amarande | which of course is just what they want, that way we're kept competing like fighting-fish for jobs and they can keep spewing their Republican shit equating "job creators" with solely the rich so they can justify tax cuts on the wealthy |
| 23:48.36 | Amarande | I'm sure they do kinda want to see Kickstarter go :( |
| 23:48.54 | Sintacks | throws cats at Cairenn |
| 23:49.37 | Cairenn | pets the pretty kitties. |
| 23:49.51 | Sintacks | takes pictures of Cairenn and teh kittehs |
| 23:50.16 | Sintacks | Stanzilla, should I use elseif for the eventtype.. since two of them are aura applied and the other is spell heal |
| 23:53.09 | Amarande | Sintacks: throwing them and then flash photography? gonna get scratched dude :D |
| 23:54.34 | Stanzilla | Sintacks: I would say so |
| 23:57.16 | Sintacks | lol Amarande. i'm not holding them anymore. Cairenn is. |
| 23:57.25 | Cairenn | heh |
| 23:59.46 | Sintacks | it annoys me than an export from WA's text editor gives me spaces, and not tabs :( |
