| 00:22.34 | Arrowmaster | im not sure if i should be proud of scared of the person ive become this last week |
| 00:23.25 | Cairenn | ?? |
| 00:23.46 | Gnarfoz | both! |
| 00:23.55 | Arrowmaster | i went out and did some new stuff |
| 00:24.07 | kd3|hate`net | new stuff is good |
| 00:24.14 | nevcairiel | new stuff is bad, hmkay! |
| 00:24.35 | foxlit | opinions on new stuff divided; conduct additional research. |
| 00:24.37 | Cairenn | Out? What is this 'out' ? |
| 00:24.48 | Gnarfoz | 'tis a scary place |
| 00:24.52 | Arrowmaster | i met somebody at a picnic yesterday as just friends when we left and he sent me a message online and somehow the tone of the messages changed |
| 00:25.03 | Arrowmaster | not something the old me ever did |
| 00:25.05 | foxlit | the mythical /r/outside |
| 00:25.20 | Thunder_Child | burn it with fire |
| 00:25.21 | Arrowmaster | ok that looks absolutely worng |
| 00:25.23 | Thunder_Child | err..wait. |
| 00:25.25 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 00:25.25 | Arrowmaster | i ment she not he |
| 00:25.38 | Gnarfoz | you know we don't care bro |
| 00:25.39 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 00:25.41 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 00:25.45 | Gnarfoz | but good for you ;) |
| 00:25.51 | Arrowmaster | oh i know but im just saying |
| 00:25.58 | Arrowmaster | i got nothing against that either |
| 00:26.08 | foxlit | now if only I could remember Arrowmaster's gender. |
| 00:26.25 | Arrowmaster | ..... |
| 00:26.27 | Simca_ | they |
| 00:26.27 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: he's kind of a beardo |
| 00:26.49 | Arrowmaster | big wiry beard |
| 00:27.05 | nevcairiel | Speaking of, there was a LGBT event in this city today. All kinds of crazy looking people wandering around |
| 00:27.05 | Simca_ | i recommend burning it off |
| 00:27.12 | Gnarfoz | will that even still fit your look when you're all slim and stuff |
| 00:27.52 | Arrowmaster | i think it still looks good at 220lbs |
| 00:28.06 | Arrowmaster | yes im down to 220 now, it just keeps going away |
| 00:28.11 | Gnarfoz | frantically converts |
| 00:28.22 | Gnarfoz | nice |
| 00:28.41 | foxlit | the absence of metric units makes me think it's time to sleep. |
| 00:28.52 | Arrowmaster | 15.714 stones, there is that better? |
| 00:29.15 | Gnarfoz | big stones, small stones, some pebbles for the children? |
| 00:30.50 | Torhal | thinks it's time Gnarfoz found more LSD. |
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| 00:30.58 | foxlit | "100 kg" |
| 00:31.36 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: my time in the CIA's mind control programs is long past ;o |
| 00:31.58 | Torhal | I never said you smoked crack. |
| 00:42.35 | Shirik | now there's a good conspiracy theory |
| 00:43.05 | Shirik | the government releasing a drug on the black markets to keep its population under control |
| 00:45.42 | Neffi | Or the government hiring Shirik to build drones |
| 00:47.08 | Shirik | oh don't worry |
| 00:47.14 | Shirik | http://www.defensenews.com/article/20140628/DEFREG02/306280019/Insitu-Developing-Heavier-Integrator-Variant |
| 00:48.12 | Torhal | Shirik: Between 1996 and 1998 the Central Intelligence Agency investigated and then published a report about its alleged involvement in cocaine sales in the US. This was prompted by the journalist Gary Webb's report in the San Jose Mercury News alleging that the CIA was behind the 1980s crack epidemic. |
| 00:48.19 | Torhal | :D |
| 00:48.39 | Shirik | huh |
| 00:48.41 | Neffi | Shirik: When you take over the world, I hope I'm spared a strenous fate of forced labor |
| 00:48.41 | Shirik | I didn't know that one |
| 00:48.58 | Shirik | if it makes you feel any better I'm seriously considering leaving the company right now |
| 00:49.05 | Neffi | :O |
| 00:49.29 | Shirik | at a minimum I'm looking at other options |
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| 02:17.19 | Stanzilla | kd3|hate`net: have you done "the righteous march" yet? |
| 02:17.33 | Stanzilla | where you fly in to karabor and bomb from the drake |
| 02:25.58 | Amarande | Stanzilla: can we use nukes so Illidan can never use it as a base? :) |
| 02:27.54 | Stanzilla | time doesnt work that way! |
| 02:31.58 | karl_w_w | http://store.steampowered.com/app/96100/ 30 cents, apparently it's really good |
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| 02:43.33 | Stanzilla | that's a nice area https://cdn.mediacru.sh/eh37muQkbowt.jpg |
| 02:44.19 | Neffi | Stanzilla: wow |
| 02:44.31 | Stanzilla | indeed |
| 02:45.09 | Neffi | Kinda, slightly almost makes me want to consider playing again |
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| 02:51.50 | Stanzilla | kd3|hate`net: hey |
| 02:56.00 | Dagmar | DOh! characters above level 92 are locked |
| 02:56.02 | Dagmar | What a shame |
| 02:56.19 | kd3|hate`net | 'lo |
| 02:56.28 | Stanzilla | kd3|hate`net: have you done "the righteous march" yet? |
| 02:56.30 | kd3|hate`net | oh wow, the entire realm crashed |
| 02:56.31 | kd3|hate`net | not yet |
| 02:56.37 | Stanzilla | damn |
| 02:56.39 | kd3 | I'm about done with part 4/7 of the storyline |
| 02:56.42 | Stanzilla | I'm stuck with that |
| 02:58.26 | Dagmar | heh I see someone's already reported dwarves prancing as a bug |
| 02:58.28 | Shirik | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140625/08443327682/future-is-now-cheating-online-games-leads-to-arrests-japan.shtml |
| 03:03.47 | Stanzilla | one day I might finish Fiona's Solution |
| 03:04.19 | Dagmar | Screw her. |
| 03:04.27 | karl_w_w | .:Stanzilla:. that's a nice area https://cdn.mediacru.sh/eh37muQkbowt.jpg <- that's what darnassus should look like |
| 03:04.35 | Dagmar | If she really wanted it she's had *more* than enough time to level up and go get it done herseld. |
| 03:06.19 | Amarande | karl_w_w: game #96100, sounds like a very square deal indeed |
| 03:06.24 | Amarande | backs away, slowly |
| 03:08.07 | Stanzilla | omg I did it |
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| 04:09.14 | Stanzilla | great. stuck in my garrison's mine now. can't release ghost because instance not found |
| 04:09.34 | Torhal | You could always dance around, Stanzilla. |
| 04:09.39 | Stanzilla | nope |
| 04:09.43 | Torhal | :/ |
| 04:09.46 | Simca_ | Stanzilla: you probably aren't missing anything then |
| 04:09.46 | Stanzilla | I'm dead. can't dance while dead |
| 04:10.03 | Stanzilla | well I just upgraded my garrison |
| 04:10.03 | Simca_ | since instance not found in that case means Draenor world server probably died again |
| 04:10.06 | Stanzilla | kinda wanted to see more of it |
| 04:10.30 | Simca_ | and you survived the crash because you were in an instance (your garrison) |
| 04:10.34 | Stanzilla | draenor seems up, my other char is on it just fine |
| 04:12.14 | Torhal | Stanzilla: I keep getting ported to the Dark Portal. |
| 04:12.27 | Torhal | So maybe SOME of Draenor is up. |
| 04:12.31 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 04:18.26 | Stanzilla | wow, I'm now dead in the center of my town |
| 04:18.30 | Stanzilla | better view now! |
| 04:19.06 | nebula169 | what would prevent a frame from setting an attribute? i create a frame and frame:SetAttribute("unit", unit), but frame:GetAttribute("unit") returns nil |
| 04:19.35 | Neffi | Well :SetAttribute doesn't work in combat |
| 04:19.50 | nebula169 | CanChangeAttribute() is 1, and its not in combat |
| 04:19.54 | Neffi | but make sure that the `unit` you're passing to :SetAttribute is not nil itself |
| 04:20.02 | nebula169 | well yes, it's not |
| 04:21.31 | Iriel | is there an event handler that’s clearing it? |
| 04:22.19 | Iriel | (it’s MUCH more likely you’ve typoed one of the two “unit”s , or the unit variable you’re setting is nil tho) |
| 04:24.08 | nebula169 | its not likely because i check the unit before setting it, i'm looking through all the OnAttributeChanged events that it may trip, but nothing changes/unsets the attribute |
| 04:24.32 | nebula169 | z.z |
| 04:26.15 | Iriel | are you sure frame points to the same frame both times? |
| 04:26.26 | Iriel | Are you sure you dont have a second SetAttribute after the non-nil one that nils it out? |
| 04:26.47 | Iriel | (Add your own atrribute change handler for debugging perhaps?_ |
| 04:27.27 | nebula169 | yea, i set it then immediately get it and it doesn't return what it should have been set to |
| 04:27.56 | Iriel | And it’s a normal frame, not some wierd specialized C++ implemented thing? |
| 04:28.28 | nebula169 | inherits SecureUnitButtonTemplate,SecureHandlerBaseTemplate |
| 04:28.48 | Iriel | Freaky |
| 04:33.25 | Stanzilla | nebula169: should report it as a bug to Iriel |
| 04:33.26 | Stanzilla | oh wait |
| 04:34.20 | nebula169 | happens on login, works normally if i reload |
| 04:39.26 | kd3 | dagmar is that you in /1? |
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| 04:51.18 | Dagmar | I'm the only one there is there that I'm aware of |
| 04:52.51 | Dagmar | I just found out (the hard way) we can't just go running off into the wilderness |
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| 04:53.12 | Dagmar | I gotta get a real pet from somewhere until they sort out what's breaking charcopies |
| 04:53.49 | Dagmar | I spent half this evening with no pet, although apparently *some* hunters have been able to keep them around. |
| 04:54.00 | Dagmar | /Might/ have something to do with being premade |
| 04:54.40 | kd3 | it's an all character pet thing. dismiss before moving around and resummon right before combat |
| 04:54.43 | kd3 | or swap specs |
| 04:55.25 | Dagmar | I suppose I could swap from BM spec to BM spec. ;) |
| 04:59.57 | Dagmar | I like the look of the flight map. Very pro. ;) |
| 05:04.18 | Neffi | pokes Semlar. |
| 05:04.28 | Neffi | you're the reason it's hot Semlar |
| 05:27.32 | Stanzilla | you can't let people come in to your garrison, right? |
| 05:27.39 | kd3 | you can, invite them to your party |
| 05:27.46 | kd3 | (the tech may not be in yet, but that's the intent) |
| 05:27.51 | Stanzilla | that didn't work just now |
| 05:27.53 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 05:28.03 | Stanzilla | I'm still dead in mine and can't rez :( |
| 05:29.17 | Dagmar | You managed to die in your own garrison? |
| 05:29.23 | Dagmar | Impressive |
| 05:30.33 | Stanzilla | yeah there are enemies in the mine |
| 05:30.44 | Stanzilla | and they killed me during a lag spike :p |
| 05:30.48 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 05:33.39 | Arrowmaster | oh fuck im just getting home at 1:30am and i have to be up at 6:15 for work |
| 05:33.58 | kd3 | say fuck it and down some no-doz? |
| 05:34.17 | Fisker | how did you get nito the mine Stanzilla ? |
| 05:34.19 | Arrowmaster | i might, im pretty wired anyway right now |
| 05:34.27 | Fisker | Also when I died I just got put at the graveyard alive |
| 05:34.38 | Arrowmaster | and im working at a different location so i dont have to see my bosses tomorrow |
| 05:34.39 | Stanzilla | Fisker: upgrade to level 2 |
| 05:34.42 | kd3 | hit garrison level 2 and you should get a quest to open it up is what I've gleaned from /1 |
| 05:34.43 | Fisker | oh |
| 05:34.50 | Fisker | I can't do that |
| 05:35.09 | Stanzilla | almost correct |
| 05:35.15 | Stanzilla | you get the quest when you hjit 92 |
| 05:35.26 | Stanzilla | but it does not tell you that you have to upgrade to open up the mine |
| 05:36.14 | Arrowmaster | i really wasnt expecting to stay out that late, there no chance of me falling asleep before 2 now |
| 05:37.16 | Fisker | I just want my alchemy lab |
| 05:37.24 | kd3 | are you an alchemist? |
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| 05:37.52 | Fisker | yes kd3 |
| 05:37.52 | kd3 | did you complete Shadows Awaken? you should get the quest-starting mysterious flask in the reward box |
| 05:38.33 | kd3 | http://wowpedia.org/Quest:Shadows_Awaken |
| 05:39.13 | Fisker | Don't think so |
| 05:39.24 | Fisker | oh |
| 05:39.26 | Fisker | that's alliance |
| 05:39.43 | kd3 | oh, horde side, it should be in the treasure chest you get after taking bladespire |
| 05:40.06 | kd3 | http://wowpedia.org/Quest:The_Bounty_of_Bladespire |
| 05:40.25 | Fisker | Yeah I remember a flask or something |
| 05:40.45 | kd3 | use the flask, it starts the chain http://wowpedia.org/Frostfire_Ridge_storyline#Garrison_alchemy_lab |
| 05:41.10 | Fisker | Oh I got the blueprints |
| 05:41.13 | Fisker | the thing is just bugged |
| 05:41.27 | kd3 | huh. amusing that it worked in alpha but it's broken now |
| 05:42.07 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/zW2d3FD.jpg ^_^ |
| 05:42.11 | Fisker | best part is that all the npc's are there |
| 05:42.15 | Fisker | and you can start work orders and stuff |
| 05:42.19 | Fisker | but the building isn't done |
| 05:42.22 | Fisker | so permanently stuck |
| 05:43.02 | kd3 | ...what? how? http://www.kake.com/home/headlines/Passenger-opens-door-on-commercial-plane-in-route-to-Wichita-265151961.html |
| 05:49.15 | Dagmar | They're meant to be openable because otherwise... pressure-cooked human |
| 05:49.28 | kd3 | at altitude? |
| 05:49.46 | Dagmar | Human intelligence is supposed to prevail there |
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| 06:17.33 | Dagmar | Considering it's not quite a knob-turn-and-done operation, I wonder why no one stopped it |
| 06:18.32 | Dagmar | kd3: Ahh... because the story's been updated. The passenger slide randomly deployed |
| 06:18.39 | Dagmar | _into_ the passenger area |
| 06:18.46 | Dagmar | SUPRISE YELLOW NOODLE ATTACK |
| 06:19.06 | Dagmar | No depressurization, everyone fine |
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| 07:27.49 | Shirik | omg |
| 07:27.54 | Shirik | friend of mine just posted a picture of a godzilla cloud |
| 07:28.09 | Shirik | http://gyazo.com/e48c9617c7014a39b512d29edc5f387b |
| 07:28.21 | Shirik | apparently shared from somewhere else but still wtf |
| 07:40.44 | Maldivia | well, looks cool |
| 07:45.29 | Fisker | you look cool Maldivia |
| 07:48.41 | rid_ | no you look cool Fisker |
| 07:48.58 | Fisker | No you look cool rid_ |
| 07:49.18 | rid_ | we all look cool! |
| 07:49.26 | rid_ | 'cept Torhal :( |
| 07:49.31 | Fisker | ^^ |
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| 09:25.09 | jleclanche | kd3: http://alexanderbrazie.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/post-mortem-6-black-stalker.html |
| 09:33.08 | zenzelezz | jleclanche: interesting :-o |
| 09:33.22 | jleclanche | zenzelezz: take a look at the earlier ones if you havent seen them |
| 09:33.30 | zenzelezz | I will =) |
| 09:36.08 | zenzelezz | I'm somewhat unhappy with games that don't offer borderless windowed mode |
| 09:36.29 | Torhal | withholds hatred from rid_ |
| 09:38.09 | jleclanche | zenzelezz: borderless windowed mode by default in wildstar was what made me believe in the mmo. |
| 09:38.15 | rid_ | :) |
| 09:39.38 | jleclanche | "Based on some recent experience, I'm of the opinion that smartphones are about as private as a gas station bathroom. They're full of leaks, prone to surveillance, and what security they do have comes from using really awkward keys. " |
| 09:39.43 | jleclanche | Boy I hope this analogy stops soon. |
| 09:40.06 | jleclanche | " they're generally intended for enterprise customers." |
| 09:40.12 | jleclanche | now i really hope it has stopped. |
| 09:42.30 | zenzelezz | jleclanche: by default? Wow, that's good news, I hope more developers do that :) |
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| 11:07.34 | Semlar | nebula169: are you not setting it to a string |
| 11:08.01 | nebula169 | it was |
| 11:27.49 | Semlar | well i'm out of ideas |
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| 12:47.47 | jleclanche | https://pay.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/29ekxl/i_think_limbo_just_came_out_natively_on_gnulinux/ |
| 12:47.51 | jleclanche | <3 |
| 12:48.32 | nevcairiel | do people really still call it GNU/Linux |
| 12:49.45 | Alram | last time i just called it linux on steamdbs twitter |
| 12:49.51 | Alram | like 3 people replied "omg its gnu/linux" |
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| 12:52.38 | nevcairiel | i suppose its somewhat feasible to run a linux without any gnu projects |
| 12:53.27 | nevcairiel | in any case, GNU is horrible, ever tried contributing something to a GNU project? |
| 12:53.35 | nevcairiel | you would think its all open source and contributing must be easy, right? |
| 12:53.49 | Fisker | Hey Lopeppeppy |
| 12:54.07 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, my sweetness and light. |
| 12:54.48 | Fisker | Good morning lady disdain |
| 12:55.08 | Fisker | runs |
| 12:58.14 | Fisker | At least Lopeppeppy is saving up for a car |
| 12:58.35 | Lopeppeppy | You've been checking out Much Ado, I see. :) |
| 12:58.49 | Lopeppeppy | Do you any embassy to the pygmies? |
| 12:59.10 | Fisker | No but to be fair I am an ass |
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| 12:59.55 | Lopeppeppy | It must be said, I am a plain dealing villain! |
| 13:00.07 | Fisker | :P |
| 13:00.42 | Fisker | Was it intended comedy? |
| 13:02.17 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, it's one of Shakespeare's tragic comedies. Tragic because the chick dies, funny for every damn line that Beatrice and Benedick say. |
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| 13:24.15 | jleclanche | So anyone got a OnePlus? |
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| 13:42.59 | Workfoz | is the smash-your-phone/lottery/invite-only phase over? |
| 13:44.37 | jleclanche | Workfoz: doesnt seem to be. i hadnt followed what happened with it |
| 13:44.46 | Workfoz | :| |
| 13:47.14 | jleclanche | Workfoz: https://pay.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/29bkl6/patrick_hills_post_from_the_oneplus_forum/ |
| 13:47.36 | jleclanche | welp, that slowed me down |
| 13:47.42 | jleclanche | see you in six months... |
| 13:47.47 | Workfoz | oh god where's the TL;DR |
| 13:47.55 | jleclanche | just read it |
| 13:48.17 | Workfoz | it'll have to wait until after work ^^ |
| 13:50.36 | karl_w_w | ie. only the unemployed have enough time to read that |
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| 13:53.47 | jleclanche | i wonder how happy i would be with my headphones if logitech would put even 1/10th of the efforts that phone manufacturers put into their phones into them |
| 13:59.54 | karl_w_w | they'll still be headphones made by logitech |
| 14:00.51 | karl_w_w | would you buy a mouse made by sennheiser? |
| 14:01.27 | Workfoz | http://stockman.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/stockman-bill-allows-taxpayers-to-use-same-lame-excuses-as-irs hehe |
| 14:03.31 | Fisker | Is that the onion or an official governmental website? |
| 14:05.10 | Workfoz | yes |
| 14:10.10 | Dagmar | So... where was all this outrage when Dick Cheney flatly refused to acknowledge anyone had the authority to review his emails? |
| 14:10.28 | Dagmar | ...or when the White House lost an even greater number of Bush emails? |
| 14:11.16 | Workfoz | is the IRS maybe run/directed/whatever'd by a non-republican |
| 14:11.22 | Workfoz | (:D |
| 14:11.34 | Dagmar | Could be |
| 14:11.42 | foxlit | This is just convinient. |
| 14:12.05 | foxlit | "Hey, taxes, scandal, outrage, I sponsored a bill that means you don't have to pay yours ever!" |
| 14:13.54 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: I dont give a crap about audio quality past the mainstream headphone quality |
| 14:14.25 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: i give a crap about battery life, weight, comfort, hardware quality and range |
| 14:19.21 | Fisker | the best part about these guys thinking they have my email Workfoz |
| 14:19.32 | Fisker | is that there's another guy with the same name |
| 14:19.41 | Fisker | apparently subscribing to the GOP |
| 14:19.47 | Fisker | which this following marvel |
| 14:19.54 | Fisker | From John McCain |
| 14:19.57 | Fisker | "Yet again, this President is wrong." |
| 14:19.59 | Fisker | I lol'd |
| 14:20.07 | Fisker | Must be about the bush administration |
| 14:20.12 | Fisker | oh wait |
| 14:20.14 | Fisker | "this" president |
| 14:20.39 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:27.12 | jleclanche | ahahahah |
| 14:27.16 | jleclanche | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7965110 |
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| 14:27.26 | jleclanche | >> I think this was a very well written sunset post. |
| 14:27.27 | jleclanche | > Google has plenty of experience in that department. |
| 14:32.43 | Dagmar | Of course they do. They buy a lot of companies whose overall technological strategy is only good for a haldful of years. |
| 14:33.19 | Dagmar | Frankly I think the reason they bought Orkut was to get penetration of some kind into Brazil, because it wasn't that great of a network at the time |
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| 14:34.37 | foxlit | they bought Orkut? |
| 14:35.44 | Dagmar | Loooong ago |
| 14:35.45 | Workfoz | looooong ago |
| 14:35.47 | Workfoz | haha |
| 14:36.05 | Workfoz | when google buzz still existed |
| 14:36.25 | rid_ | lol orkut |
| 14:36.31 | rid_ | was full of southamericans |
| 14:37.11 | Workfoz | no surprise? |
| 14:37.19 | Workfoz | also, apparently they didn't buy it |
| 14:37.45 | Workfoz | "The website is named after its creator, Google employee Orkut Büyükkökten." |
| 14:39.12 | zenzelezz | isn't that the double-colon error message from PHP? |
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| 14:40.01 | Workfoz | no, since that one is hebrew |
| 14:40.17 | zenzelezz | nevermind, that was T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM |
| 14:40.22 | Workfoz | unexpected T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM? :P |
| 14:40.24 | Workfoz | yeah |
| 14:40.27 | foxlit | autocomplete from T_ |
| 14:40.33 | Workfoz | lol |
| 14:40.43 | zenzelezz | it's pretty true though; I never expected that |
| 14:40.49 | foxlit | followed by T_CONSTANT_ENCAPSED_STRING |
| 14:42.01 | Dagmar | sheesh |
| 14:42.39 | zenzelezz | waits for the "at least it's not C++ template error message" comment |
| 14:44.47 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:45.24 | Amarande | foxlit, what do we have against elemental shamans exactly? :P |
| 14:45.51 | Amarande | (Mind you, given the general way conversation in this channel goes, I'm sure there will be "the fact that Amarande plays one" mentioned at some point. LOL) |
| 14:45.56 | foxlit | I'm fairly sure you missed "lightning storm" |
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| 14:46.09 | foxlit | oh, and Hex. |
| 14:46.33 | Amarande | Hey now, we're not any worse than Polymorph: Pig :) |
| 14:46.36 | foxlit | It's like half the deck is effective removal. |
| 14:46.49 | Amarande | Oh, you mean Hearthstone |
| 14:47.28 | Amarande | From what I've tried of Hearthstone so far though, I've come to the conclusion that removal is absolutely vital in general, though. |
| 14:48.30 | Amarande | Especially with the targeted combat that, unlike say, Yugioh, allows you to (unless specific effects are in play) TARGET LIFE POINTS DIRECTLY EVEN WHEN THE TARGET HAS CREATURES OUT |
| 14:49.08 | Amarande | At least Yugioh normally forced the opponent to take out all your creatures first before they could attack your life points, unless they were using direct-damage spell or trap cards or specific monster effects :) |
| 14:50.29 | zenzelezz | ... why? ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_j3aRdUkZ8 |
| 14:54.51 | Amarande | (Same in Magic too I suppose, but for the most part in Magic you're only allowed to say "I attack with foo" and there's no targeting like in YGO or Hearthstone, natch) |
| 15:01.07 | jleclanche | "Google products remind me of HBO's Game of Thrones series." |
| 15:01.13 | jleclanche | This is pretty apt |
| 15:01.41 | Jamash | ...incest and murder? |
| 15:02.00 | jleclanche | no, the other thing |
| 15:02.23 | Jamash | arbitrarily killed off? |
| 15:02.30 | jleclanche | got it in one |
| 15:02.34 | Jamash | two |
| 15:03.06 | jleclanche | pretty surprising too given that there was paedophilia, rape, disembowelment and cannibalism in the list. |
| 15:03.26 | Jamash | I could make an argument for incest and cannibalism |
| 15:04.06 | jleclanche | Cairenn: how much do I have to pay you to /topic that |
| 15:04.21 | Jamash | google+ <-> youtube, google hangouts->(voice, talk) |
| 15:05.07 | jleclanche | thats patricide |
| 15:05.19 | jleclanche | why am I discussing this |
| 15:05.20 | Jamash | well, there's that in GoT too |
| 15:05.23 | jleclanche | afk |
| 15:06.02 | TC-Work_ | jleclanche: Depends on how many pairs of pants you have. |
| 15:07.01 | Jamash | never thought I'd have a pet anduin wrynn |
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| 15:11.55 | Amarande | heh, hasn't it usually been more them merging more of the communications related individual apps into Hangouts? |
| 15:12.18 | Amarande | which tbh seems like it makes perfect sense |
| 15:12.51 | Amarande | it also gives them more nuclear ammunition to use against Apple, by increasing the amount of customer hate for Apple when Apple denies users more Google services because apparently they're rabid dead set against allowing Voice on iOS |
| 15:13.48 | Amarande | though otoh, since talk has merged with hangouts ... are you still able to use IM clients like Trillian and Pidgin to connect to it or is only the proprietary hangouts app able to do it anymore? |
| 15:14.23 | Amarande | that could be a bit of a crimp, since you used to be able to use Talk on just about anything as long as you had a ... XMPP I think was the protocol client handy, which is basically any platform known to man, whereas Hangouts is only made available as a binary application for specific platforms |
| 15:20.54 | foxlit | lua> t = {} t[nil] = "this exception is annoying" |
| 15:21.08 | foxlit | foxlit: stdin:1: table index is nil |
| 15:23.13 | Fisker | hey foxlit |
| 15:26.08 | nevcairiel | foxlit: metatables to the rescue! |
| 15:26.41 | foxlit | yes, but imagine that code |
| 15:29.10 | Jamash | Amarande: Hangouts cannibalized Voice and Talk to gain their power |
| 15:29.40 | Jamash | foxlit: why would you want to use nil as a key? |
| 15:31.04 | foxlit | Because it's a possible value, and I'd like to map it to something else. |
| 15:31.09 | Jamash | Achievement: It's Over 9000! |
| 15:31.16 | Jamash | Achievement points: 8915 |
| 15:31.19 | Jamash | ... |
| 15:33.38 | foxlit | Jamash: more to the point, why shouldn't you be able to use nil as a table key? |
| 15:34.32 | Jamash | foxlit: Offhand, I can't think of a reason why not. |
| 15:35.15 | Jamash | only the general principle that nil is the "not a value" value |
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| 15:36.47 | Lopeppeppy | ... I need to move to another country. *sigh* |
| 15:37.13 | foxlit | nevcairiel: foiled; you can't metatable your way out of this. |
| 15:37.57 | Jamash | foxlit: Does Lua distinguish between the cases of "return 1" and "return 1, nil"? |
| 15:38.10 | foxlit | yes. |
| 15:39.27 | Jamash | then I don't see a problem with having nil as a table key |
| 15:39.30 | Jamash | shrugs |
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| 15:40.25 | Naptime | the distinction is that the later creates an item on the stack that has the value nil |
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| 15:41.39 | Naptime | why do you want to use nil as a key? |
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| 15:43.00 | foxlit | "Jamash: foxlit: why would you want to use nil as a key?" |
| 15:43.01 | Torhal | Lopeppeppy: I recommend Ukraine. |
| 15:43.13 | foxlit | "foxlit: Because it's a possible value, and I'd like to map it to something else." |
| 15:43.54 | Lopeppeppy | Torhal, you are naughty. |
| 15:44.04 | Torhal | >.> |
| 15:44.26 | Naptime | for what purpose? |
| 15:45.44 | Naptime | what does re-mapping the one value that universally means "no data here" achieve? |
| 15:46.19 | jleclanche | what does instagram achieve? |
| 15:46.33 | foxlit | It lets me refer to the location which stores the "no data here" value. |
| 15:46.52 | jleclanche | funny how that applies to both questions |
| 15:48.34 | Naptime | anyone know where to find documentation for SetGuildMemberRank()? or is it defunct? |
| 15:48.43 | foxlit | imagine you have a dictionary = {2, 4, nil, 1, 3}; and given a value, you'd like to find its location in that dictionary, i.e. map = {[2]=1, [4]=2, [nil]=3, [1]=4, [3]=5} so that you can later do v = dictionary[map[v]] |
| 15:50.42 | jleclanche | Naptime: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SetGuildMemberRank |
| 15:52.28 | foxlit | (which you could get by pasting the name of the function into a google search box.) |
| 15:52.46 | Naptime | i tend to avoid wowprogramming.com links like the plague |
| 15:52.50 | Semlar | wow |
| 15:55.47 | foxlit | that's maybe a little extreme. |
| 15:56.10 | Fisker | rips everything apart |
| 15:56.11 | Naptime | probably even |
| 15:56.37 | Neffi | pokes Semlar. |
| 15:57.10 | Semlar | why you do dis |
| 15:58.11 | Semlar | neffi pandora is playing something from the snakes on a plane soundtrack |
| 15:58.36 | Neffi | lol |
| 15:58.42 | Semlar | where did i go wrong |
| 15:59.03 | Semlar | THIS ISN'T HOW I RAISED YOU, STATION |
| 15:59.10 | Torhal | You delved into the Black Magic and Voodoo of the WoW API, Semlar. |
| 16:00.30 | Semlar | psh |
| 16:01.07 | Semlar | a little black magic never hurt anybody |
| 16:01.43 | Neffi | turns into a frog and explodes. |
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| 16:03.37 | Semlar | tapes neffi back together |
| 16:04.22 | Neffi | good as new *cough |
| 16:06.03 | Neffi | wtf. there's 2 ducks outside my window quacking maniacally |
| 16:06.28 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:07.32 | foxlit | http://amultiverse.com/comic/2014/06/23/the-birds/ |
| 16:08.19 | Neffi | no more black magic Semlar! |
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| 16:20.02 | TC-Work_ | What Neffi? The company is still around. |
| 16:33.20 | zenzelezz | "PROTIP: Turn data into big data by encoding it as XML" |
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| 16:45.48 | Neffi | TC-Work: wait, what? |
| 16:46.00 | TC-Work | Twas a joke Neffi. |
| 16:46.55 | Dagmar | Heheheh |
| 16:47.25 | Neffi | excuse my confusion. i just woke up from a strange dream |
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| 16:52.18 | Maldivia | Neffi: like Jason in the church, kind of dream? |
| 16:52.19 | TC-Work | Station! |
| 16:52.40 | Unkle | Station, TC-Work! Be excellent to each other. |
| 16:52.43 | Jamash | zenzelezz: ha |
| 16:52.44 | Neffi | no, like a very psychadelic dream of accidental LSD ingestion |
| 16:53.03 | Dagmar | Did you start by throwing up? |
| 16:53.39 | Neffi | I started by spilling a vial of the stuff on myself, then it proceeded with me trying to find my way home amidst tons of colors and synesthesia |
| 16:53.58 | Dagmar | Could be LSD then |
| 16:54.22 | Dagmar | On the other hand, it could be water from the Fox News watercooler. |
| 16:54.24 | Jamash | Neffi: Were you riding a bike? |
| 16:54.29 | Dagmar | Only time will tell. |
| 16:54.36 | Neffi | No. I was helping my friend find his misplaced LSD D: |
| 16:54.50 | Neffi | Like I said, strange dream |
| 16:55.02 | Dagmar | Remember kids, only users lose drugs. |
| 16:55.02 | Shirik | are you sure it was a dream? |
| 16:55.11 | TC-Work | Unkle: Well then you totally don't know me. |
| 16:55.18 | Neffi | Shirik: I kinda hope so. I made an ass of myself in front of my parents |
| 16:55.30 | Jamash | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_lysergic_acid_diethylamide#.22Bicycle_Day.22 |
| 16:56.14 | Dagmar | Jamash: Having some familiarity with the subject matter, I'm actually quite suprised he managed to ride that bike all the way home without his legs getting tangled up in the spokes. |
| 16:56.37 | Neffi | that really depends heavily on the dose..... or so I've heard |
| 16:56.56 | Jamash | Dagmar: He probably would have if his lab assistant hadn't been with him |
| 16:56.56 | Dagmar | He made a non-trivial quantity of it in liquid form without a hood. |
| 16:57.07 | Neffi | oh wait "ingesting 0.25 milligrams (250 micrograms) of the substance" <- WOAH |
| 16:57.18 | Dagmar | THat's the thing I've been told about manufacturing LSD. |
| 16:57.28 | Dagmar | If you don't work under a hood, you *will* know if you got it right. |
| 16:57.37 | Dagmar | If nothing happens, you didn't get it right. |
| 16:57.42 | Jamash | yeah it's active in extreeeeeemely small doses |
| 16:57.45 | Dagmar | Enough evaporates into the open air to fuck you up |
| 16:58.07 | Neffi | yeah, IIRC you can pretty much measure the dose in ppm |
| 16:58.07 | Jamash | most drugs are dosed in milligrams, lsd is dosed in micrograms |
| 16:58.08 | Dagmar | Yes, 250 micrograms is a fantastically small amount, and it's still enough to make you trip your sack off. |
| 16:58.20 | Dagmar | It's one of the things I liked about LSd. |
| 16:58.48 | Dagmar | You can replace that entire piece of paper with strichnine and it won't even give you a bellyache |
| 16:58.58 | Jamash | that's, uh |
| 16:59.20 | Jamash | you're weird, dag |
| 16:59.26 | Dagmar | It means the delivery vehicle (i.e., a bit of blotter paper) can't hold enough of anything to affect you if it's not LSD |
| 17:00.13 | Neffi | No, there are some chemicals producing similar effects that work in similar quantities. I hear through friends of friends that they're being actively used in the rave scene. Which is a shame, because they're mostly dangerous |
| 17:00.20 | Dagmar | Mind you, some savage could really soak that paper good, and you might be sitting in a corner unable to find your left hand in about an hour, but... at least it's nearly impossible to poison you or get you hooked on smack in that quantity |
| 17:00.43 | Unkle | TC-Work: Oh, I know you. But the Great Ones have said that we should be "excellent" to each other. |
| 17:01.08 | Neffi | Lethal dose has yet to be determined because it's simply too high. You're likely to die of psychological impact before overdose. |
| 17:01.19 | Dagmar | 250 micrograms is basically two hits of "average" street blotter. |
| 17:01.26 | Unkle | And the flashbacks, man. THE FLASHBACKS! |
| 17:01.33 | Dagmar | There are no flashbacks. |
| 17:01.44 | Neffi | The flashbacks are a myth, mostly perpetuated by culture |
| 17:02.00 | Dagmar | There's PTSD if you don't watch yourself, but LSD sticking around in the bloodstream is about as possible as whole sugarcubes sticking around in your bloodstream. |
| 17:02.02 | Neffi | Anyway, time to clean the house |
| 17:02.15 | Unkle | I guess I should have encapsulated that in <Tommy Chong> tags. |
| 17:02.47 | Dagmar | I know someone that in a panic ate half a sheet once to get rid of it |
| 17:02.53 | Dagmar | That was a pretty fun day or two |
| 17:02.54 | Dagmar | heh |
| 17:03.17 | Dagmar | "YOU GUYS CAN'T LET ME OUT OF YOUR SIGHT UNTIL THIS IS OVER! PROMISE ME!" |
| 17:03.49 | Unkle | A friend told me a story of accidentally eating 6 tabs when her usual dose was a half-tab. Said she sat in a chair for two days tripping. |
| 17:04.03 | Dagmar | She was getting some strong stuff then |
| 17:04.04 | Neffi | I call bullshit |
| 17:04.16 | Dagmar | A half a tab is what I'd refer to as a "feet wetting" dosage. |
| 17:04.39 | Dagmar | Just enough to discolor things, and take the straight edges off of walls, without making someone freak out about reality melting. |
| 17:04.39 | Neffi | I accidentally ate 6. It was fun, but it wasn't more than you can handle. No bad trip. No intensity beyond measure. Peak stopped after like 8 hours |
| 17:04.55 | Dagmar | I did 20 once. |
| 17:04.57 | Jamash | well, maxed out Alchemy, time to do nothing but make living steel until the next expansion |
| 17:05.08 | Unkle | *shrug* Having never done any acid myself, I can only say that her 90 lb teenager in the 60s self probably shouldn't have done 6 tabs at once. |
| 17:05.22 | Unkle | And it was her story, not mine. |
| 17:05.26 | Dagmar | Only thing I can say about that is that one minute I was wondering when it would kick in, then I was admiring the nifty morphing effect on my socks. |
| 17:05.27 | Neffi | Could've been unusually strong |
| 17:05.31 | Dagmar | WAIT THOSE ARE MY GODDAMN FEET |
| 17:05.54 | Dagmar | Oh in the 60's? |
| 17:06.05 | Dagmar | There's no fuckin' telling how much LSD she ingested then |
| 17:06.24 | Unkle | She had bought the stuff for a Jefferson Airplane concert ... so, yeah. She was telling me this in 1988 about her 'wild years' in the 60s. |
| 17:06.28 | Dagmar | Even the hippies were having trouble coming to grips with what miniscule a dosage was needed |
| 17:06.48 | Dagmar | Some of the microdot was reportedly in the 10,000 micrograms range. |
| 17:06.57 | Dagmar | i.e., "A GREAT BIG NO THANK YOU" |
| 17:07.23 | Dagmar | Cuz if you could drop one in a punchbowl and make 20 people see God, I want no part of that all at once |
| 17:07.57 | Dagmar | That Fringe episode... lol |
| 17:08.11 | Dagmar | "Astrid! I'm going to need you to make up about two-thousand milligrams of LSD". |
| 17:08.16 | Unkle | The Walter character was pretty funny. |
| 17:08.21 | Dagmar | I fell out of my chair |
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| 17:08.52 | Dagmar | Did some Googling... yes, that in fact would have been enough to fuck up everyone on campus at that time of the weekend. _Everyone_. |
| 17:09.01 | Dagmar | ...and it was for _four_ people |
| 17:09.06 | Dagmar | *shudder* |
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| 17:09.42 | Dagmar | During the 90's the FBI attempted to purchase a _kilogram_ of LSD. |
| 17:10.00 | Dagmar | Dude's immediate and first thought was "this is the FBI." |
| 17:10.21 | Shirik | lol |
| 17:10.28 | Dagmar | The idea it might have been some kind of terrorist only hit them later as a afterthought because it _was_ actually the FBI. |
| 17:11.05 | Neffi | "hey, I'm not a cop. can I purchase one marijuana?" |
| 17:11.08 | Dagmar | One doesn't simply make a kilogram of LSD. |
| 17:11.34 | Dagmar | Neffi: More like "Hey buddy, you think you could maybe find me four tons of marijuanas?" |
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| 17:12.21 | Dagmar | If you're looking to make say, the greater Chicago area lose their shit... a kilogram of LSD would just about do it. |
| 17:13.23 | Torhal | I've seen people unable to cross a street while tripping. |
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| 17:13.52 | Torhal | "No, dude. I have to go back. I can't do this." |
| 17:14.04 | Dagmar | heheheheh |
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| 17:24.22 | Jamash | I am a person who does not work for a law enforcement agency and I would like eighty coke joints, ten stacks of mushroom papers and one kilo of meth leaves |
| 17:26.23 | Jamash | please deliver to Not DEA Headquarters, 600 Army-Navy Drive, Arlington, Virginia |
| 17:26.39 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:26.45 | Amarande | heh with today's hard drug dealers, that probably gets the querent a nice new roughly .223-sized forehead piercing, after which the dealer rifles their pockets and finds the badge :P |
| 17:27.17 | Jamash | WKUK are awesome |
| 17:27.39 | Amarande | also, wtf is wrong with words with friends |
| 17:27.44 | Amarande | I was ready to score something like 200 points in one go |
| 17:27.54 | Amarande | and the fucking thing tells me "Sorry, QUERENT is not an acceptable word" |
| 17:28.26 | Dagmar | Yer usin' them made-up fantasy words again instead of the ones in the Scrabble dictionary |
| 17:30.41 | Amarande | pretty sure querent is a word, heh |
| 17:31.25 | Amarande | I've most commonly of late seen it associated with Tarot |
| 17:31.32 | Amarande | the querent is the person whose cards are being read |
| 17:31.42 | Jamash | one who inquires |
| 17:34.09 | Jamash | query, querent, quer..or? |
| 17:35.01 | foxlit | Jamash: one who inquires << an inquisitor. |
| 17:35.18 | Jamash | no that's one who inquisits |
| 17:36.09 | Jamash | queree? |
| 17:36.17 | foxlit | that's not a word, Jamash. |
| 17:36.24 | foxlit | wording breaks language. |
| 17:36.35 | Jamash | The words do what I tell them to |
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| 17:40.11 | TC-Work | Except you are telling them with other words.... |
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| 17:45.42 | foxlit | http://www.wolframalpha.com/share/clip?f=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427er80ab2cst0 |
| 17:51.05 | Amarande | don't worry, in another fifty years we'll all be getting our new Cthulhu mouth tentacle implants anyway |
| 17:51.24 | Amarande | it'll be the only way to get a fresh supply of words after all the useful ones end up being already protected by trademark law for MegaCos that never let them go :) |
| 17:59.38 | Dagmar | Fresh from R'lyeh Farms |
| 18:01.23 | g0urra | lolwut http://www.theonion.com/video/sponsored-groundbreaking-video-game-lets-players-c,36385/ |
| 18:02.03 | jleclanche | watching this without the sound |
| 18:02.05 | jleclanche | "Kill meeeee" |
| 18:02.50 | nevcairiel | dont link theonion, someone may believe it |
| 18:03.46 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: i was this close! |
| 18:03.56 | jleclanche | "I don't like google + because they were sneaky. I still can't figure out how they went into my computer and stole profile picture. (And no they didn't scrape it from Any website?)." |
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| 18:04.13 | jleclanche | How did this guy manage to register on HN |
| 18:04.27 | jleclanche | s/register on HN/get online/ |
| 18:04.55 | Torhal | I'm still shocked at the number of WoW folks that somehow manage to find their way onto IRC and can't form a proper sentence. |
| 18:04.58 | foxlit | You're like a cat, jleclanche. |
| 18:05.16 | jleclanche | why's that :3 |
| 18:05.54 | foxlit | Cats have a habit of dragging half-dead mice back home to boast about their hunting prowess. |
| 18:06.03 | foxlit | "Look, human, I caught that!" |
| 18:07.05 | jleclanche | my cat claws the people he doesn't like. He then runs off and, when they're not watching, he pees on their clothes. |
| 18:07.39 | jleclanche | Here's hoping for you your analogy doesn't extend too far |
| 18:08.01 | Dagmar | "Behold! I hunted and killed this for you!" |
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| 18:29.42 | Amarande | heh |
| 18:29.47 | Amarande | the way ESO failed to meet expectations |
| 18:29.58 | Amarande | I wouldn't be surprised if Bethesda actually did promise such a feature at some point, LOL |
| 18:31.38 | pompy | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/30/emergency-evacuation-slide-deploys_n_5542665.html |
| 18:32.33 | Amarande | pompy: surprised it wasn't JetBlue :p |
| 18:36.01 | Jamash | I don't think I've ever heard of that happening before |
| 18:36.09 | Jamash | which is a pretty good record |
| 18:36.37 | Jamash | pity they'll have to restart the "days since an inflatable slide deployed during flight" calendar |
| 18:39.28 | Amarande | Jamash: that particular disaster, no. but I'm surprised it's United because it seems that usually when something insanely out of the ordinary (and is merely inconvenient rather than really endangering) occurs to passengers, it's on JetBlue |
| 18:39.44 | Amarande | The time the guy was forced to sit on the can the entire flight? That was JetBlue |
| 18:40.11 | Amarande | The time the flight attendent went crazy on the ground and jumped out the emergency slide and made the passengers wait for hours for security? That was JetBlue |
| 18:40.26 | Amarande | The time the captain freaked out over the intercom and it made news? That was JetBlue |
| 18:40.26 | Amarande | heh |
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| 18:40.51 | smcn | which airline was it where a "emotional support dog" (lol) took a massive dump and everyone started vomiting and they had to evacuate the plane |
| 18:44.34 | Amarande | smcn: didn't hear about that one |
| 18:44.56 | Amarande | I did hear about some cuckoo airline (whose name I also can't remember, I think it may have been in Australia ... yay another point against Australia!) |
| 18:45.00 | zenzelezz | I didn't hear about anyone bringing such dogs onboard; only that they were used on some airports |
| 18:45.09 | Amarande | where the flight attendant almost tried to put someone's baby in the overhead bin |
| 18:45.42 | Amarande | ahh, yes, it was Virgin Blue in Australia, and it got on failblog |
| 18:45.53 | Amarande | with the caption "The Only Place That's Worse Than A Center Seat" |
| 18:46.10 | Amarande | wait, apparently they actually DID put the toddler in the overhead bin |
| 18:46.11 | Amarande | wtf |
| 18:46.43 | Amarande | at least the offender got fired, thank the gods |
| 18:46.48 | smcn | zenzelezz: where are you from, i think it's mostly an ugly american entitlement thing |
| 18:46.50 | Amarande | wow, that means I have to say something good about Australia, though, then :P |
| 18:47.10 | smcn | and btw the airline was us airways http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Dog-Poo-Forces-Philly-Bound-Flight-to-Make-Emergency-Landing-Report-261252191.html |
| 18:48.19 | zenzelezz | smcn: Norway |
| 18:50.50 | smcn | yeah it's a us thing. want to take your dog everywhere and have $70? here you go! https://www.nsarco.com/emotional-support-animal.html |
| 18:51.49 | smcn | i guess 20 years ago these ppl would just rot to death in their homes because going outside is 2spooky |
| 18:52.38 | Jamash | smcn: Entirely possible. You don't know anyone with any kind of severe anxiety disorder? |
| 18:52.58 | Semlar | me? |
| 18:53.08 | Semlar | i want a support monkey |
| 18:54.15 | Jamash | Someone came in to the Best Buy I was working at and put their support monkey's crate on the customer service desk right next to me |
| 18:54.25 | Jamash | it was startling but awesome |
| 18:54.45 | Jamash | I would have taken a picture but I felt that would have been inappropriate behavior for an employee |
| 18:55.05 | Semlar | i'm disappointed that they don't appear to actually ship you an animal |
| 18:55.09 | Jamash | ha ha ha |
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| 19:00.51 | Jamash | smcn: I think you mean "want to take your pet everywhere and have $70, a letter from a licensed therapist, counselor, or physician, which states that you are emotionally disabled and require an ESA as part of your treatment, and are able to manage and control your pet in public?" |
| 19:01.37 | Amarande | smcn: and keep in mind that anxiety disorders are on the rise, not the decline |
| 19:02.07 | Torhal | I get anxious every time Amarande gets on a tirade about LOTRO and SWTOR in here. |
| 19:02.20 | Amarande | I'm pretty sure in large part it has something to do with Presidents that treat enlistees as disposable heroes to be used to enrich their corporate cronies :| |
| 19:02.38 | Amarande | and then we get back more and more guys with PTSD |
| 19:02.44 | Semlar | how do you survive torhal |
| 19:03.09 | TC-Work | I think you mean about anything. |
| 19:03.17 | Amarande | (seriously though, apart from Afghanistan, I'm not sure we've had a single war that was really about our own security as opposed to political agendas and corporate enrichment at the soldiers' expense since WWII :|) |
| 19:03.17 | Torhal | I don't, Semlar. I'm on my 11,286th incarnation. |
| 19:03.48 | Torhal | Now, how the fuck did an airplane slide turn into conspiracy-theorycraft. |
| 19:03.56 | Torhal | s/./?/ |
| 19:03.59 | Jamash | Amarande: I wouldn't include Afghanistan either |
| 19:04.04 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: drugs |
| 19:04.05 | Amarande | Torhal: we were talking about what it takes to need an emotional support dog |
| 19:04.25 | Torhal | Ok. |
| 19:04.27 | Amarande | Torhal: so I was noting that PTSD is on the rise, and a large part of it is soldiers being sent out on completely unnecessary wars and coming back mangled mentally and emotionally if not physically too |
| 19:04.39 | Torhal | I'm just waiting for a Dick Cheney mention. |
| 19:04.46 | Jamash | you just did |
| 19:04.51 | Torhal | :D |
| 19:05.05 | Jamash | ~inception |
| 19:05.05 | purl | <a href="http://inception.davepedu.com/">BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH</a>, or how you own your phone (see #inception): https://endno.de/~itsnotabigtruck/inception/ |
| 19:05.21 | Semlar | html'd |
| 19:05.39 | Torhal | inlines Semlar for transport. |
| 19:05.43 | Jamash | bad purl, no cookie |
| 19:07.02 | Jamash | ~inception |
| 19:07.03 | purl | BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH (http://inception.davepedu.com/) |
| 19:07.06 | Jamash | that's better |
| 19:07.07 | Jamash | ~botsnack |
| 19:07.07 | purl | Jamash: thanks |
| 19:09.38 | Amarande | Jamash: well at least Afghanistan actually had arguable relevance in that the Taliban was sheltering the group that had orchestrated an actual attack against us (and AQ clearly had global planning capacity so their nerve center rather did pose a danger) |
| 19:10.01 | Amarande | as opposed to say Vietnam or Korea, which were both about "gotta get dem Commies" as a political agenda and had nothing to do realistically with protecting the USA |
| 19:10.20 | Amarande | or Iraq I or especially Iraq II which were about oil plain and simple |
| 19:11.17 | smcn | Jamash: and i'm sure all of those are legit just like medical marijuana cards. my problem isn't with ppl who have actual problems it's with ppl who just want to take their dogs everywhere and exploit the system. anyways afk now http://gifsound.com/?gif=i.imgur.com/HPuOs6T.gif&v=kvYSJzmpBZ0 |
| 19:11.24 | Amarande | mind you, the sad thing is that one can probably argue that punishing nations swiftly and shockingly for changing petrocurrencies *is* a security issue for us, but just because we screwed up our economy doesn't give us the right to mangle other nations to preserve our failures :P |
| 19:12.04 | Amarande | (since basically our economy is essentially unsustainable and we apparently depend to some degree on nations continuing to buy our bad dollars, many of whom possibly would be sane enough not to do it if they didn't need USD specifically to buy oil :P) |
| 19:12.36 | Jamash | cool story bro |
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| 19:44.12 | relaxok | where is the ui player portrait texture loaded..? can't really find the order of events there |
| 19:44.31 | kd3 | whee, I broke the SMV storyline again. that's the third quest now |
| 19:45.19 | relaxok | its not in PlayerFrame.xml or the lua anywhere |
| 19:46.03 | relaxok | its the basic outline im talking about |
| 19:46.04 | relaxok | not the face |
| 19:46.14 | relaxok | the stuff that encircles the bars and circular portrait |
| 19:46.23 | relaxok | interface\characteframe\UI-Player-Portrait it looks like |
| 19:46.27 | relaxok | characterframe* |
| 19:50.51 | relaxok | http://bh.polpo.org/ui_ip_9_compare.png upper left |
| 19:51.03 | relaxok | trying to figure out why its not in the exact right spot |
| 19:54.18 | jleclanche | https://mediacru.sh/-HrJ6qoJt6-8 this cant be good |
| 19:56.09 | kd3 | whee mojibake |
| 19:57.20 | Fisker | bakes Lopeppeppy a cake |
| 19:57.43 | Lopeppeppy | Yay, food! |
| 19:59.07 | Mr_Rabies | i don't think i would eat a fisker cake |
| 20:00.48 | Fisker | people are so mean |
| 20:01.03 | jleclanche | kd3: nah |
| 20:01.13 | jleclanche | kd3: font cache corruption most likely |
| 20:01.45 | Fisker | I've seen it happen on play store a few times after marking the text |
| 20:04.56 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/2WRoOxs.jpg <-is this real Lopeppeppy? |
| 20:05.49 | Lopeppeppy | No Fisker, the Admiral wouldn't have that information - he'd have to ask his Captain who actually does the work and keeps the books. |
| 20:05.55 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 20:06.52 | Gnarfoz | oh god |
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| 20:12.20 | Fisker | You wouldn't upload hurting somebodys feelings Mr_Rabies |
| 20:12.37 | Mr_Rabies | i would if i had to maintain a ratio |
| 20:13.07 | Fisker | a ratio of hurting feelings? |
| 20:13.50 | Mr_Rabies | some of those trackers are ratio nazis dude, gotta keep it high or you'll get b& |
| 20:16.17 | Gethe | relaxok: the player frame doesn't use UI-Player-Portrait, it uses an flipped UI-TargetingFrame |
| 20:17.27 | relaxok | Gethe: thanks, i think i see that now |
| 20:18.17 | relaxok | Gethe: the other weird thing is if you compare http://bh.polpo.org/defaultui.png and http://bh.polpo.org/ui_ip_9_compare_3.png |
| 20:18.44 | relaxok | Gethe: the player unitframe is -19 and -4 off from the correct location in the latter |
| 20:18.54 | relaxok | Gethe: which is the exact amount of the ANCHOR offsets in the playerframe.xml |
| 20:18.58 | Gethe | indeed |
| 20:19.22 | relaxok | Gethe: so it's almost like the real playerframe doesn't use its own anchor offset |
| 20:19.25 | relaxok | ingame |
| 20:19.50 | relaxok | which makes no sense |
| 20:20.49 | relaxok | could be coincidental numbers i guess |
| 20:23.20 | relaxok | this kind of thing will drive me (more) crazy |
| 20:30.13 | pompy | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/30/gm-recall-ignition-switch_n_5544724.html they may as well recall every single car they ever built at this point lol |
| 20:30.23 | relaxok | ah shit i figured it out |
| 20:30.34 | Gethe | \o/ |
| 20:30.39 | relaxok | (almost) |
| 20:30.59 | relaxok | when i remove the offset from the xml it's doubly off |
| 20:31.01 | relaxok | so im counting it twice somehow |
| 20:34.44 | relaxok | ahh |
| 20:34.50 | relaxok | setallpoints must not really be what it says i tis |
| 20:34.55 | relaxok | in my web searching |
| 20:35.09 | Neffi | it sets all anchor points to either the frame provided, or the parent by default |
| 20:35.21 | Neffi | In other words, it essentially centers the frame |
| 20:35.53 | relaxok | from what i read iw as under the impression it basically copied the same anchors the parent had (if no frame was provded) |
| 20:36.19 | relaxok | but if you look at PlayerFrame.xml, the <Frame> under PlayerFrame says setallpoints |
| 20:36.29 | relaxok | which would imply another -19,-4 offset in addition to its parents |
| 20:36.31 | relaxok | parent's |
| 20:37.10 | Neffi | no, it's just doing: :SetPoint('TOP') :SetPoint('BOTTOM') :SetPoint .... |
| 20:37.17 | pompy | Weird move on ULA's part.. and they even responded to the backlash on it lol https://www.facebook.com/ulalaunch/photos/a.138389650378.140600.131613310378/10152426220980379/?type=1&comment_id=10152426365980379&offset=0&total_comments=24 |
| 20:37.56 | relaxok | Neffi: how is that any different than no anchoring? since by default you use the parents location and center as the anchoring |
| 20:38.35 | Neffi | No you don't. By default a frame is not anchored at all, and therefore not visible |
| 20:42.02 | relaxok | i misunderstood then.. so setallpoints is unrelated to the anchors of the parent, it just sets top/bottom/left/right anchors to the parent? |
| 20:42.28 | Neffi | yes -- and also center, topright, bottomleft, etc |
| 20:42.54 | relaxok | i have horrible code to deal with anchors |
| 20:42.57 | relaxok | im probably missing some sort of elegant solution |
| 20:43.30 | Neffi | So what, you're developing a WoW-compatible UI API for your own game SDK? |
| 20:43.34 | relaxok | http://pastie.org/private/kz5dllfbieh3jgncn86g |
| 20:43.48 | relaxok | yeah for now, just so i can be sure i support everything a game would want to do with the UI |
| 20:44.04 | relaxok | and i know wow really well so |
| 20:44.13 | relaxok | (obviously i dont know addons very well) |
| 20:44.51 | Neffi | IANAL, but with the recent decision in Oracle v Google, I believe the precedent has been set: APIs are subject to copyright, so a full-on reimplementation of the WoW API might be copyright infringement. But like I said, IANAL, so I'm not positive on this |
| 20:45.29 | relaxok | thanks =p |
| 20:50.47 | Kesava | ! |
| 20:50.51 | Kesava | i'm in the hots beta omg |
| 20:50.59 | Kesava | i got into a beta without cheating and using addon author keys |
| 20:51.00 | Kesava | amazing |
| 20:52.20 | Shirik | um |
| 20:52.30 | Shirik | you know hots was released, right? |
| 20:52.34 | Kesava | NO SHUT UP |
| 20:52.42 | smcn | heroes of the storm? |
| 20:52.45 | Kesava | yeah |
| 20:52.47 | TC-Work | ^ |
| 20:52.50 | Shirik | I refuse to accept that heroes of the storm is hots |
| 20:52.55 | smcn | was released? |
| 20:52.55 | Kesava | it says beta on my "account status" |
| 20:52.55 | TC-Work | ~failrick |
| 20:52.55 | purl | rumour has it, failrick is Shirik's been Rick Rolled! |
| 20:52.56 | smcn | o |
| 20:52.56 | Kesava | so /slap |
| 20:52.58 | Kesava | no, it wasn't |
| 20:53.18 | Kesava | .. afaik anyway |
| 20:53.28 | smcn | every blizzard game should be hots |
| 20:53.32 | Shirik | ~literal failrick |
| 20:53.32 | purl | "failrick" is "Shirik's been Rick Rolled!" |
| 20:53.34 | Kesava | i mean me being invited to a beta is rare enough that i'm inclined to believe it has been released regardless |
| 20:53.36 | smcn | hearth of the stone |
| 20:53.52 | Shirik | ~factinfo failrick |
| 20:53.52 | purl | error: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required) |
| 20:53.52 | purl | failrick -- created by Seerah <n=Ryan_L@adsl-177-4-118.mem.bellsouth.net> at Thu Oct 2 03:27:02 2008 (2097 days); it has been requested 8 times, last by TC-Work, 57s ago. |
| 20:54.00 | Shirik | I don't have enough flags for that |
| 20:54.03 | Shirik | but tell me anyway |
| 20:54.05 | Shirik | ok then |
| 20:54.16 | TC-Work | 0 required, but many suggested |
| 20:54.38 | TC-Work | actually, that looks like o required on my client |
| 20:55.57 | Kesava | .. o as in op perhaps |
| 20:56.19 | Kesava | who knows the inner workings of this mysterious bot |
| 20:56.52 | relaxok | Kesava: jealous! |
| 20:57.22 | Kesava | :D |
| 20:58.40 | Shirik | regardless, it told me I don't have the right to do it |
| 20:58.42 | Shirik | and then it did it anyway |
| 20:59.54 | TC-Work | I did the wrong one anyway |
| 21:00.05 | TC-Work | just goes to show that I was not paying attention. |
| 21:05.51 | relaxok | the way text is rendered is so strange too |
| 21:06.02 | relaxok | the button text above the minimap, the spacing is strange |
| 21:06.20 | relaxok | if you just take that font and in freetype get the bitmaps and render them with the correct advances, it doesnt look like that spacing |
| 21:06.30 | relaxok | even though its supposedly 0 spacing |
| 21:06.33 | relaxok | GameFontNormal or whatever |
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| 21:27.02 | Shirik | apparently the way to get amex to increase your credit limit is to book 4 flights and hotels |
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| 21:27.17 | Shirik | I did that this morning and 5 minutes ago they upped my credit limit by almost 50% |
| 21:27.39 | TC-Work | Did you get close to your limit? |
| 21:27.56 | Shirik | no |
| 21:28.10 | Shirik | I was at about 50% of the limit which is kinda my personal limit |
| 21:28.12 | Shirik | but they wouldn't know that |
| 21:28.27 | TC-Work | Yes they would |
| 21:28.46 | TC-Work | All they have to do is chart expenditures over time. |
| 21:28.57 | Shirik | I guess |
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| 21:29.15 | Gnarfoz | not even his, that would seems to be a pretty common thing ;) |
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| 21:30.56 | foxlit | http://pastey.org/view/c8338fc0 << oh hey, progress. |
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| 21:55.15 | foxlit | they're removing Cash Flow in WoD. Hurray? |
| 21:56.13 | nevcairiel | maybe it'll finally stop all these guild invites |
| 21:56.23 | Alram | six seasons and a movie! |
| 21:56.25 | Alram | dances |
| 21:56.41 | Alram | dances with jleclanche |
| 21:56.51 | foxlit | gah, murlocs. murlocs everywhere. |
| 21:57.06 | fewyn | it wont stop the guild invites nevcairiel |
| 21:57.16 | fewyn | they happened before guild levels existed |
| 21:57.23 | nevcairiel | why would they |
| 21:57.29 | nevcairiel | there is no benefit |
| 21:57.38 | fewyn | we have X members in our guild |
| 21:57.41 | fewyn | we super cereal |
| 21:57.47 | foxlit | http://go-hero.net/i/murlocs.png |
| 21:57.59 | fewyn | not enough murlocs foxlit |
| 21:58.26 | Neffi_ | wtf is that thing on the left? where are its gills? |
| 21:58.38 | kd3 | oh wow in the 92nd minute |
| 21:58.49 | kd3 | oh, wait, already in extra time |
| 21:58.51 | nevcairiel | foxlit: play an angry crab! |
| 21:58.51 | Alram | you go, germany |
| 21:59.00 | nevcairiel | er, hungry crab |
| 21:59.03 | nevcairiel | or what it was called |
| 21:59.10 | kd3 | they've still gotta play until 120, right? even after the goal |
| 21:59.13 | foxlit | nevcairiel: it's turn 3. |
| 21:59.26 | foxlit | By this point, you have 5 cards. |
| 21:59.40 | foxlit | (and who packs crabs?) |
| 21:59.55 | nevcairiel | someone who plays against a murlock deck, obviously |
| 22:00.15 | foxlit | and looks sad the rest of the time? |
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| 22:29.09 | relaxok | what does nonspacewrap do in FontString? |
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| 22:30.38 | Neffi_ | Stops the string from wrapping the text, iirc |
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| 22:36.18 | foxlit | Neffi: I think it has more Ns than that. |
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