| 00:09.50 | kd3 | bleh at the download not being anywhere near done >.< |
| 00:13.27 | Gethe | not sure if anyone else has noticed, but there are a number of fromes that are using .png files |
| 00:13.35 | Gethe | frames* |
| 00:14.16 | jleclanche | anyone watching trump right now? |
| 00:14.26 | jleclanche | i dont understand why he skipped attacking a 1/1 into the vaporize |
| 00:14.39 | jleclanche | and the opponent was baiting him to, as well - didnt fireblast it |
| 00:17.02 | Simca | Gethe: and there are no power of 2 restrictions for dimensions either for textures drawn in the UI |
| 00:17.21 | Simca | not to mention blizzard's extensive use of texture atlases |
| 00:17.25 | jleclanche | oh right, because of ice barrier |
| 00:17.37 | Neffi | is the font rendering still bad? |
| 00:19.36 | nevcairiel | kd3: the download progress is kinda wonky tho, it'll just jump at some point while barely showing any progress at first |
| 00:25.34 | Esamynn|work | TC-Work: I'm not here to enable your schadenfreude |
| 00:27.58 | jleclanche | good god that mage deck is atrocious to watch |
| 00:28.00 | jleclanche | mathstone |
| 00:28.17 | Esamynn|work | O_o |
| 00:28.48 | jleclanche | Esamynn|work: the "i kill you on turn 49 after ten ice blocks" one |
| 00:28.59 | kd3 | eugh |
| 00:29.10 | jleclanche | this was a mirror match |
| 00:29.12 | jleclanche | atrocious |
| 00:29.18 | Esamynn|work | sorry, I don't play hearthstone... I know nothing about it |
| 00:29.25 | foxlit | -> #twitch-chat |
| 00:29.26 | jleclanche | you're not missing out here |
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| 00:46.54 | jleclanche | kd3: this bullshit deck brings a new meaning to "painful to watch" |
| 00:48.31 | kd3 | bleh. well, at least I'll be able to get the build downloaded before they push a new on on monday >.< |
| 00:57.51 | p3lim | kd3, you happen to have the interface art files for WoD? |
| 01:10.54 | Gethe | p3lim: i've been uploading what i can find here: https://github.com/Gethe/wow-ui-textures |
| 01:11.08 | Gethe | dont have the lastest build up though |
| 01:11.17 | TC-Work | Esamynn|work: That's what you think. |
| 01:11.51 | p3lim | Gethe: That'll do nicely, thanks |
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| 02:45.38 | Neffi | Semlar: what you do to my skyrim? |
| 02:46.04 | Neffi | 4 dragons spawned, and more keep coming. I know you did this |
| 02:46.59 | Semlar | you think i have dragons just lying around the place |
| 02:49.20 | Neffi | apparently! |
| 02:50.21 | Neffi | looks like a cool mod conflict. bunch of mods that all have a chance to spawn enemies lined up their odds perfectly. that was epic |
| 02:50.32 | TC-Work | Meh |
| 02:50.39 | Neffi | but now I have like 8 blood dragon corpses on my land |
| 02:50.56 | Semlar | mods can spawn dragons? |
| 02:51.12 | TC-Work | They can do anything |
| 02:51.14 | Neffi | aye. At the very least it had to be Deadly Dragons + Extended Encounters working together |
| 02:51.24 | Neffi | and with Dragon Combat Overhaul, that was a hard ass battle |
| 02:53.38 | Semlar | why can't my addons spawn dragons |
| 02:55.01 | Neffi | because you're playing the wrong game D: |
| 02:56.32 | Semlar | do you think this is a game |
| 02:57.43 | Neffi | but it is a game |
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| 03:50.27 | Amarande | heh, guess I'm leaving the mmo world once again, since I refuse to go crawling back to win8.1 |
| 03:50.47 | Amarande | and jessie's wine is broken and fedora has lametastic defaults that are not easily changed |
| 03:51.39 | kd3 | so... clone the wine repo and build it yourself? there's nothing /wrong/ with fedora's build of wine other than I don't think it has the csmt patches installed |
| 03:51.52 | Amarande | kd3: actually, it's not the build of wine that pisses me off about fedora |
| 03:51.57 | Amarande | it's how focused it is around GNOME 3 |
| 03:52.05 | Amarande | to the point that you need to go hunting down a special installer not to use it |
| 03:52.14 | kd3 | install xfce or kde and swap to it at the login screen? |
| 03:52.18 | Amarande | and let's put it this way ... GNOME 3 is so asstastic that seriously, Win8 is a more elegant UX |
| 03:52.34 | kd3 | if you use the default live installer you're going to get gnome 3... I use the netinstall, so I get whatever I want |
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| 03:53.07 | Amarande | or I can go down to debian stable and see if wine 1.4 can handle things I suppose |
| 03:53.11 | kd3 | (the only gnome-related stuff on my system is backend crap) |
| 03:53.14 | Amarande | jessie has other issues too, I can't get sound to work heh |
| 03:53.25 | Amarande | hopefully it's not going to prove a linux issue in general |
| 03:53.27 | kd3 | switching WMs in fedora isn't hard |
| 03:53.50 | Amarande | (linux has lots of trouble with handling the existence of multiple sound devices, and modern gaming cards all add an extra sound out thanks to the HDMI *sigh*) |
| 03:53.50 | kd3 | `yum install <wm of choice>, log out, choose that wm's session, log back in. boom |
| 03:54.22 | kd3 | unless you've got something nonstandard (that is, not intel hda), you shouldn't have issues. I haven't had problems in years |
| 03:54.26 | Amarande | kd3: any idea if 1.4 handles current wow, or is 1.6 necessary? |
| 03:54.45 | kd3 | it may, I doubt it. just build your own wine (or use PlayOnLinux) if it doesn't |
| 03:54.56 | kd3 | 1.4 is /ancient/ in wine terms, though |
| 03:55.13 | Amarande | also: if you're using lvm, can you do a downgrade reinstall of debian without having to reformat /home, or are lvm partitions always reformatted on install without option? |
| 03:55.36 | kd3 | depends on the debian installer |
| 03:55.47 | Amarande | I normally use netinst |
| 03:55.47 | kd3 | anaconda (fedora's/red hat's) will let you |
| 03:56.05 | Amarande | I don't remember it letting me with jessie but that's probably because I created new partitions, come to think of it. |
| 03:56.33 | Amarande | oh, bleh, and hopefully wheezy netinst doesn't have the nasty wlan bug that jessie's does |
| 03:57.04 | Amarande | apparently you can't netinst jessie over wpa2. you get a hope spot followed by a "can't establish association, check your wpa keys" error |
| 03:57.12 | Amarande | works fine post install, never during the netinst |
| 04:12.50 | Amarande | with any luck, wine will backport properly to stable this time |
| 04:13.12 | Amarande | my usual luck with wine on debian stable is the thing compiles just fine backported from the sid source & then doesn't want to run anything more modern than Diablo II, heh |
| 04:18.12 | Amarande | also I don't even think I recall seeing fedora have a netinstall unless I missed something |
| 04:18.43 | Amarande | (do not like live installers atm, I don't use discs all that often so I rely on an external burner, and the poor thing thrashes like a drowning swimmer whenever you use a live distro with it) |
| 04:18.57 | Amarande | I fear the thing will break like an old Commodore 1541 if I boot too many live discs LOL |
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| 04:21.05 | kd3 | http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora#formats scroll down to network install |
| 04:25.25 | Amarande | actually, I'm surprised I haven't broken this dvd drive ... I seem to kill them lately LOL |
| 04:25.48 | Amarande | that or optical drives just tend to be shoddily built anymore |
| 04:25.55 | Amarande | probably because people mostly just use them to install the OS, I'm guessing |
| 04:26.49 | Amarande | and most people just run silly windows and don't try multiple linux distros or anything fancy like that :) |
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| 10:37.32 | d[karl]b | Arrowmaster = 24 hour party person? |
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| 11:11.33 | airtonix | hey karl_w_w, i guess it's too hard for us marshals to use email |
| 11:11.58 | karl_w_w | okay |
| 11:16.55 | airtonix | so now that you agree, we should move forward with emptying your bank accounts into my offshore holdings |
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| 12:45.11 | Fisker | Parnic |
| 12:45.19 | Fisker | No more trades until you're on Red Team |
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| 13:48.31 | g0urra | green team sucks |
| 13:58.16 | Fisker | Red Team master race |
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| 14:11.38 | mikma | TEAM BLU |
| 14:13.22 | Fisker | team red pls |
| 14:14.03 | karl_w_w | chance of being on winning team = 1/5, chance of getting anything out of it 1/∞ |
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| 15:57.52 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: holy shit zoo |
| 15:58.00 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: https://mediacru.sh/DoAZkHBEmlM3 |
| 16:04.42 | sylvanaar | whats the story with addons and wildstar? |
| 16:06.25 | jleclanche | sylvanaar: #wildstaruidev |
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| 17:50.06 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/azn88S5 |
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| 19:33.34 | Neffi | mornin' #wowuidev |
| 19:38.16 | Amarande | g'afternoon |
| 19:38.23 | Amarande | bleh. why the hell did I ever buy this mobo from hell |
| 19:38.42 | Amarande | now I'm going to have to either go crawling back to windows, put my expensive haswell box away and stop using it, or buy a new sound card :| |
| 19:39.29 | Amarande | (and tbh, even the windows driver setup for this onboard sound is a pain in the bum) |
| 19:40.49 | Neffi | Realtek? I thought their drivers were pretty well supported by ALSA now |
| 19:44.51 | Neffi | best selfie ever taken https://i.imgur.com/6cjId5D.jpg |
| 19:47.14 | Amarande | Neffi: the older ones, yeah |
| 19:47.24 | Amarande | Neffi: problem is a lot of z87 boards, including this one, come with this new one called alc1150 |
| 19:47.37 | Amarande | which apparently has a depressing lack of success stories, based on googling around for how to get it working in linux |
| 19:47.48 | Amarande | thought I read one success story, turned out the guy just put his sound blaster back in :P |
| 19:48.09 | Amarande | even on windows the driver is problematic to get installed correctly |
| 19:49.24 | nebula169 | so you're bitching about having to buy a 20$ soundcard? lol |
| 19:52.08 | Amarande | nebula169: well, this is an effing 200$ motherboard |
| 19:52.26 | Amarande | I think I can feel at least a little entitled to have the onboard devices work without tears, LOL |
| 19:53.21 | Amarande | nebula169: let's say you go out and buy a 200$ doodad that promises feature foo, wouldn't you feel rather miffed if you have to go out and spend an extra 20 bucks to actually use feature foo? :) |
| 19:53.56 | Amarande | also, if this is the future of intel chipsets, it doesn't speak well for intel :| |
| 19:57.29 | g0urra | https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/10421568_10152181744635267_5956845507166898044_n.jpg |
| 20:06.43 | nevcairiel | Linux not supporting the very latest main boards entirely is hardly news Amarande. :p |
| 20:07.05 | Amarande | nevcairiel: in this case even people running bleeding edge dists like ubuntu and arch are getting bitten |
| 20:07.38 | Amarande | I'm not quite sure why this new realtek should be so hard to support, but I get a bad feeling it might be Ye Olde Protected Media related :p |
| 20:07.43 | nevcairiel | Ubuntu is bleeding edge now? What has the world come to |
| 20:08.01 | nevcairiel | But its a kernel thing, not distribution |
| 20:08.01 | Amarande | given that the first thing you see when you look up the alc1150 on realtek's site is them touting how great the content protection features are *headdesk* |
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| 20:08.53 | nevcairiel | Try buying a state of the art laptop and then get linux support all of its bells and whistles |
| 20:10.03 | Amarande | yeah, that would be painful I suppose, although it seems like people are having good luck with laptops, apart from perhaps wifi |
| 20:10.15 | nevcairiel | Can hardly blame the laptop or main board makers for using "too new" components. Buy last gen stuff if that's a concern for you |
| 20:10.57 | Amarande | I'm still not sure why realtek even needed a new sound chip at this juncture |
| 20:11.16 | Amarande | thinking about it, after all, the only good reason to have one would be if speakers were still getting noticeably better, right? |
| 20:11.34 | Amarande | and if anything, we know they're mostly getting worse, with people starting to favour headsets and earbuds instead of quality classical speakers |
| 20:11.52 | Amarande | (or whatever the little built in speakers on their tv or monitor are) |
| 20:11.57 | nevcairiel | Those onboard chips are hardly perfect. And speakers come in all sorts of quality |
| 20:12.27 | nevcairiel | I believe they did reduce the noise floor quite a bit in the new chip |
| 20:12.40 | Amarande | one thing I have heard, is that people using sound over hdmi are having a lot fewer problems. sometimes I wonder if it's part of an initiative to phase-out analog sound on pc's |
| 20:13.02 | Amarande | get rid of "pirate friendly" analog output in favour of safely protected digital HDCP outs, much like they did with video last decade |
| 20:13.35 | Amarande | again, keep in mind the first thing realtek touts about this chip on its marketing page is its DRM features :| |
| 20:13.38 | nevcairiel | Analog video sucks |
| 20:13.53 | nevcairiel | And the DAC in onboard sound cards sucks as well |
| 20:14.13 | nevcairiel | So you wouldn't want to use it if you're serious |
| 20:15.47 | Amarande | yeah, I actually suggested to ##hardware if this is a sign that microatx motherboards may die as quickly as they got popular, heh |
| 20:16.06 | Amarande | especially if this is the trend of onboard sound cards (the alc1150 seems to be especially finicky compared to past realtek codec chips) |
| 20:16.26 | nevcairiel | Why does the motherboard size matter. |
| 20:16.38 | Amarande | nevcairiel: microatx only gives you four slots' worth of card space |
| 20:16.47 | nevcairiel | Most people use HDMI, or heck even USB audio |
| 20:16.49 | Amarande | your graphics card always gobbles up 2, of course |
| 20:17.08 | nevcairiel | High end sound cards are pretty rare tbh |
| 20:17.12 | Amarande | if you want an internal wifi card, that's 1 more |
| 20:17.34 | nevcairiel | Who wants WiFi for a stationary PC o.o |
| 20:17.36 | Amarande | (a lot of us are pretty convinced wifi will never be a common onboard fixture because of the regulatory fees involved that increase the price of the board as a whole) |
| 20:17.52 | nevcairiel | Also some boards come with it integrated |
| 20:18.07 | Amarande | and if this is the future of onboard sound chipsets, you'll increasingly need a slot for that going forward :S |
| 20:18.21 | nevcairiel | The chips aren't getting worse |
| 20:18.21 | Amarande | that's already the full slot allotment |
| 20:18.35 | Semlar | oO |
| 20:18.45 | Amarande | nevcairiel: it took ages to even get the windows driver working for this thing and the linux drivers don't seem to work at all |
| 20:18.50 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure the only card i have in my desktop is the video card |
| 20:18.56 | Amarande | past onboard sound, including past realteks, "just worked" |
| 20:19.05 | nevcairiel | Linux is no measure in multimedia devices |
| 20:19.11 | nevcairiel | Its notoriously behind |
| 20:19.27 | Amarande | nevcairiel: like I said though, even getting the windows driver to install correctly was something of a bear, too |
| 20:19.32 | Amarande | *that's* unusual |
| 20:19.44 | nevcairiel | Maybe you just fail? |
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| 20:19.58 | Amarande | the internet is littered with reports of wailing and gnashing of teeth over alc1150 |
| 20:20.11 | nevcairiel | People in general are stupid |
| 20:20.15 | Amarande | I don't think I've ever seen a sound chipset elicit this many complaints in recent past |
| 20:20.21 | Neffi | People use PCI-E sound cards for analog quality? heh |
| 20:20.27 | nevcairiel | Some |
| 20:20.44 | Amarande | the last time I saw this many people have trouble with sound was when DOS games still had a following and PCI sound cards were becoming the norm |
| 20:21.06 | nevcairiel | Last actual sound card I bought was still PCI and generations ago |
| 20:21.07 | Amarande | (that being because pci sound cards were a real pain to get working in dos if you could at all, and some old games needed 9x in full ms-dos mode) |
| 20:21.09 | Neffi | There's been a trend in the *gasp* audiophile sphere towards external DACs, it seems |
| 20:21.34 | Amarande | Neffi: one actually wonders if that's what people are expected by core systems designers to use, heh |
| 20:21.35 | nevcairiel | People using it for video watching use HDMI mostly |
| 20:21.42 | Neffi | I figured all normal people just use their shitty 3.5mm out, or use the HDMI and stop bitching |
| 20:21.50 | nevcairiel | Music people like USB or SPDIF DACs |
| 20:22.13 | Amarande | the design of motherboards nowadays seems to give off a strong suggestion that the expectation is for people to increasingly use external devices (thanks to large numbers of usb ports) |
| 20:22.29 | nevcairiel | Many people just don't care and stick to onboard |
| 20:22.59 | Amarande | Neffi: yeah that is one thing that occurs to me |
| 20:23.02 | Neffi | Amarande: Or maybe overengineering your ownboard sound with a renowned DAC and great analog pathway just doesn't make sense price-wise. I don't think board manufacturers are out to get you. You either care about quality, in which case you're probably not using onboard, or you don't, in which case it's good enough |
| 20:23.08 | nevcairiel | Mainboards get more and more built in features, see WiFi. What the hell would give you that idea? |
| 20:23.34 | Amarande | if this is an indication of the impending death of the notion of 'computer speakers' |
| 20:23.50 | Amarande | as in, the standard now is to use a monitor with built-in speakers, or a television |
| 20:23.55 | nevcairiel | The main board people would earn less money if you go out and buy external components. So why would they do that |
| 20:24.08 | Neffi | I'm calling shenanigans. "Computer" speakers were never some modicum of quality anyway |
| 20:24.23 | Amarande | (also allowing industry to consolidate product lines I suppose, since ultimately that would mean all they need to make is televisions and they can do away with 'monitors') |
| 20:24.52 | nevcairiel | There is quite a huge difference between the teo |
| 20:24.56 | nevcairiel | Two* |
| 20:25.01 | Amarande | nevcairiel: not so much anymore |
| 20:25.09 | Neffi | But televisions are monitors. The only thing that might set them apart is some user-oriented features, and a built in tuner |
| 20:25.28 | Neffi | Rather, TVs are a superset of monitors |
| 20:25.30 | Amarande | the main differences seem to be that a tv has a built in tuner, and often worse resolutions than the average computer monitor (many budget tvs still only handle 1366x768) |
| 20:25.55 | Amarande | also that a tv always has built in speakers, while many monitors do not |
| 20:27.02 | nevcairiel | Monitors are designed to show a PC image, while TVs these days are designed around the idea of producing its own image. Be it from the tuner or more recently from internet sources. The only thing they share is display tech, and even there monitors are usually higher quality and smaller |
| 20:27.03 | Neffi | I doubt any motherboard engineers are chuckling maniacally and going "haha, now you have to use a TV motherfucker" |
| 20:27.09 | Amarande | notice though that resolutions that do not correspond to TVs (1440p, 1200p) seem to be being increasingly dropped like a hot potato too |
| 20:27.27 | Amarande | even though most computers are hardly ready to use 4k and must downgrade to 1080p in the absence of 1200/1440 |
| 20:27.48 | nevcairiel | 1440 is quite common for screens at 27 inch or so |
| 20:28.04 | Neffi | That's probably just because LCD panels in common resolutions are more readily and cheaply available |
| 20:28.34 | Amarande | nevcairiel: most TVs still need to be designed to show an external image, such as from a set-top box or PC |
| 20:28.46 | Amarande | internet streaming sources, yeah that's becoming a thing |
| 20:29.28 | Amarande | but the tuner on your typical hdtv is actually almost useless (unless the tv supports cablecards) for a very large number of people because they have cable, and a plain tuner will not handle cable signal anymore thanks to DRM |
| 20:29.36 | Neffi | Not sure what this conversation is even about anymore, so, uh |
| 20:29.39 | Neffi | nevcairiel: how goes it? |
| 20:30.07 | Amarande | Neffi: but yeah, it seems like people are being pushed to use HDMI audio more |
| 20:30.18 | Amarande | your graphics card tends to nose itself into the audio outputs list nowadays, too |
| 20:30.38 | Amarande | also, this is a $200 motherboard, you would think they wouldn't include shoddy components. damn you asus. |
| 20:30.56 | Neffi | Bad driver support ~= shoddy |
| 20:31.42 | Amarande | yeah, I suppose that's true |
| 20:31.48 | Amarande | *cough* AMD video cards *cough* LOL |
| 20:37.55 | fewyn | what's wrong with amd video cards? |
| 20:38.02 | fewyn | i really like my amd video cards |
| 20:38.07 | fewyn | better than nviddia crap |
| 20:40.37 | Amarande | fewyn: we were noting the difference between hardware quality and driver quality |
| 20:40.52 | fewyn | i'm not a huge fan of the amd drivers |
| 20:40.53 | Amarande | amd has always had great hardware quality, pity that they've never really managed to match it with equivalent elan with drivers |
| 20:40.58 | fewyn | i got a bluescreen today :( |
| 20:41.07 | fewyn | first one i've ever seen on windows 8 |
| 20:41.30 | Amarande | and similarly, apparently this new onboard sound from realtek is supposed to be the latest greatest thing in onboard sound |
| 20:42.00 | Amarande | ... but the less said about the driver support the better, it seems to only work in windows atm and even then it can be a pain to get the right driverset installed |
| 20:42.53 | Thunder_Child | I have gotten a few on win 8 |
| 20:43.20 | fewyn | i do have to say i like the new blue screen |
| 20:43.23 | fewyn | than the old one |
| 20:43.24 | Amarande | and wow, are there really that few pci-e sound cards? |
| 20:43.45 | Amarande | newegg lists 63 usb options, 54 pci not-an-options (no legacy pci slots on this mobo), and only 23 pci-e options |
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| 20:51.59 | Amarande | nebula169: also your statement about a 20$ soundcard is proving rather optimistic :( |
| 20:52.30 | Amarande | the cheapest I've seen is 27 for pci-e, and it doesn't look anywhere near certain that it's supported by alsa either |
| 20:53.04 | Amarande | it's starting to seem more like 200$ mobo needs a 100$ soundcard, unless I go with USB |
| 20:53.27 | Amarande | are USB DACs really that good to justify the inherent shortcoming (i.e., the fact that now you've got an external device chained to yet another external device) |
| 20:54.10 | nevcairiel | you get out from the electric interference of the PC |
| 20:54.23 | nevcairiel | and its quite flexible |
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| 20:55.57 | nevcairiel | can even use it on a laptop or whatever you prefer |
| 20:56.21 | Clamsoda | Good afternoon, is there any API to determine whether the heroic you are in is a random heroic or not? |
| 20:56.36 | Clamsoda | As in, joined via the random dungeon finder. |
| 20:56.56 | nevcairiel | dont you have like a buff when you did that |
| 20:57.34 | Clamsoda | I know there is the Luck of the Draw buff, but that is dependent on how many players weren't a part of your party. |
| 20:57.45 | Clamsoda | Infact, by queueing with a full party, you won't have the buff at all. |
| 20:58.41 | nevcairiel | does anyone ever walk to an instance to go in there, even in full groups you would basically always use the tool, wouldnt you :p |
| 20:59.17 | nevcairiel | but i'm not aware of an API, but it may still exist and i've just never seen it |
| 20:59.23 | Clamsoda | Well, you walk to a lot of instances to do mount runs or for transmog =] |
| 21:00.47 | Clamsoda | I am fairly surprised that nothing GetInstanceInfo returns is indicative of LFD dungeons. |
| 21:02.23 | nevcairiel | mostly because unlike raids, the dungeon is exactly the same |
| 21:02.24 | Clamsoda | Hrm, considering there are only 9 heroics eligible to join from LFD, I guess I could just cache the dungeon names and compare it that way. I am just trying to automate some stuff; and I don't want that automation pouring into other instances. |
| 21:03.12 | Clamsoda | I do walk to a lot of dungeons, and I couldn't think of a unique set of properties that LFD dungeons have that others wouldn't. |
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| 21:19.16 | Clamsoda | That worked out quite handily Nev, especially considering mapID and instanceMapID are seperate. |
| 21:19.20 | Clamsoda | Thanks for your help as usual though. |
| 21:20.44 | nevcairiel | Well its not really a solution to your question, but if it helps. :) |
| 21:23.44 | Clamsoda | It is always nice when someone takes the time to even respond =] |
| 21:49.50 | jleclanche | Alram: ping |
| 21:49.54 | Primer | Heh, I just bought Skyrim from steam for $5. Ran curse client to update WoW, and it defaulted to Skyrim, which intrigued me. So I selected the "get mods" tab, and at the very top of the list is "Nude Females" |
| 21:50.01 | Primer | * click * |
| 21:50.06 | Primer | jacks0nbUBBBajoe |
| 21:50.16 | Primer | oh, that's just lovely |
| 21:50.20 | Alram | jleclanche, pong-ish |
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| 21:51.06 | Primer | keepass2 needs a "prevent alt tab until complete" feature |
| 21:52.35 | Simca | there is an API for the dungeon finder, Clamsoda, and it includes 'status' functions |
| 21:52.49 | Simca | i'm fairly sure you can check if you are currenly in a random dungeon through that |
| 21:53.30 | Clamsoda | Any idea what the name of the function is, Simca? |
| 21:53.42 | Cairenn | keepass2 also needs a "auto save after you add an entry so you don't lose the password you created just before your computer crashed so now you can't get to the place you just created the entry for" |
| 21:54.10 | Primer | yeah, that's stupid |
| 21:54.30 | Simca | Clamsoda: http://wowpedia.org/Api#Looking_For_Group_Functions - a few options there |
| 21:54.48 | Clamsoda | Thank you very much Simca <3 |
| 21:54.56 | Cairenn | I had that happen - brand new entries for a couple sites, hadn't hit the 'save' button, computer crashed. argh. |
| 21:55.15 | foxlit | someone should clearly get a mac. |
| 21:55.22 | Cairenn | :p |
| 21:55.42 | Primer | Cairenn: I believe that also happens if your computer restarts from rebooting after scheduled updates |
| 21:55.44 | Cairenn | That said, I love keepass |
| 21:55.48 | Cairenn | Yeah |
| 21:55.49 | Simca | Clamsoda: http://wowpedia.org/API_GetLFGQueueStats looks promising, especially if the 'hasdata' return is 'true' when 'wait time' is false |
| 21:55.59 | Primer | So, how about that Ghana? |
| 21:56.06 | kd3 | you mean you have your keepass set up to *not* save 30s after it the database modified? |
| 21:56.14 | kd3 | o_O |
| 21:56.22 | foxlit | what if you crash in those 30 seconds? |
| 21:56.23 | Primer | I was rooting for them |
| 21:56.40 | kd3 | well then you're sol |
| 21:57.00 | foxlit | why doesn’t it write to disk and confirm immediately? |
| 21:57.52 | Simca | maybe it's a custom script he made and it only checks periodically so it doesn't constantly use the disk |
| 21:58.59 | nevcairiel | I just got used to pressing Ctrl S after any edits, habit from other text editing, just save all the time |
| 21:59.04 | Gnarfoz | ^ |
| 21:59.31 | Simca | haha yeah, i have the same habit from text editors/VS |
| 21:59.53 | Simca | since the title bar changes color when modified, and i -have- to make it be the right color |
| 22:04.30 | Shirik | you all are wrong |
| 22:04.34 | Shirik | what you SHOULD be in the habit of doing |
| 22:04.35 | Shirik | is typing :w |
| 22:04.59 | nevcairiel | Screw vim |
| 22:07.32 | Simca | better than people who still use vi |
| 22:08.15 | Fisker | I miss you Shirik |
| 22:08.45 | kd3 | doubleagent's about to hit 90 |
| 22:09.27 | foxlit | one day, your kids will ask you “Where were you when the herb-gathering panda hit 90?” |
| 22:12.29 | Gnarfoz | right here, on IRC |
| 22:12.48 | Fisker | Hi foxlit |
| 22:13.15 | Fisker | Where were blizzard when they let exploiters exploit the game? |
| 22:16.11 | foxlit | playing hearthstone, obviously. |
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| 22:25.44 | Gnarfoz | and it's done :o |
| 22:25.49 | Gnarfoz | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/mannoroth/Doubleagent/advanced |
| 22:26.05 | Gnarfoz | him and Gutrot, legends |
| 22:26.29 | Torhal | hey Fisker |
| 22:26.34 | Torhal | Did Stanzilla make a tablet? |
| 22:26.44 | Fisker | No |
| 22:26.50 | Torhal | :/ |
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| 23:11.20 | Naptime | I'm playing around with different ways of doing things and I'm finding that using <Script file="myscript.lua"/> doesn't seem to work. Any pitfalls with that to look out for? |
| 23:13.39 | Simca | none that i know of - as long as it is the same directory as the xml and the toc and the toc includes the xml and not the lua file |
| 23:14.40 | Naptime | will new scripts added that way load on the fly? or do they need a full reboot like those listed in the toc? |
| 23:15.42 | Simca | thats... a good question |
| 23:16.02 | Simca | i would imagine they would need a reboot |
| 23:16.20 | Naptime | thanks :-) |
| 23:16.33 | Iriel | If you add a new file to the filesystem, you need a reboot. |
| 23:16.46 | Iriel | if you had the file there, but simply added a reference to it, you dont |
| 23:19.06 | Naptime | good to know |
| 23:28.09 | foxlit | I wish RE calls didn't scrub frame handles. KR:RunFor(self, KR:GetAttribute("RegisterStateDriver"), "r" .. internalId, conditional) makes for extremely annoying syntax; I'd much prefer KR:RunAttribute("RegisterStateDriver", self, …) |
| 23:43.15 | Iriel | foxlit: Sadly trying to do that ‘properly’ would have required a lot of work, |
| 23:48.35 | foxlit | aren't frame handles essentially read-only userdata keys into something? |
| 23:49.21 | Iriel | Essentially |
| 23:49.34 | Iriel | There’s no clean mechanic for ‘keep this userdata but not that one' |
| 23:50.41 | foxlit | heh, scrub is C-side. |
| 23:51.11 | Iriel | I know, but we really would need fscrub(filterfunc, …) |
| 23:51.17 | foxlit | otherwise, it'd be just a 'or type(x) == "userdata" and IsFrameHandle(x)' away. |
| 23:52.52 | foxlit | I'm not sure if you even need to scrub the RE-to-RE calls. |
| 23:54.02 | foxlit | (or, let's put it this way: I'm reasonably sure it isn't necessary, but maybe I'm missing something.) |
| 23:58.20 | Iriel | Im sure I had a reason, I’m not sure what it was |
