| 00:06.09 | Arrowmaster | rubys variable scoping is silly though |
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| 00:31.57 | Jamash | A programmer puts two glasses on his bedside table before going to sleep. A full one, in case he gets thirsty, and an empty one, in case he doesn’t. |
| 00:32.51 | Jamash | ...I have an empty bottle of water and a full bottle of water on my bed right now >.> |
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| 00:44.08 | relaxok | guys, if anybody has worked directly with the lua C api and can answer some questions, i'd appreciate it.. (yes, still working on that) |
| 00:44.17 | relaxok | i put together a paste of the sort of thing im trying to do |
| 00:44.28 | relaxok | http://pastie.org/private/ffds3mzxq1mdgymxvgrha |
| 01:07.42 | relaxok | damn |
| 01:08.26 | Neffi | relaxok: #lua ;) |
| 01:08.41 | relaxok | i know, i know |
| 01:08.57 | relaxok | i know ppl know how wow does this though |
| 01:09.00 | relaxok | =) |
| 01:09.29 | relaxok | ill ask there also |
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| 02:49.38 | Neffi | what email services do you guys use, besides gmail/work/school? |
| 02:49.51 | Thunder_Child | gmail is a location? |
| 02:50.35 | Thunder_Child | I roll my own, but it's minor. |
| 02:50.46 | Neffi | I mean, besides the services offered by work/school |
| 02:51.09 | Neffi | I don't trust my college with anything personal, tbh. |
| 02:51.17 | nevcairiel | i used to roll my own, but i basically stopped using it |
| 02:51.29 | nevcairiel | keeping a proper mail system running and up to date is a major PITA |
| 02:51.40 | Neffi | I'm used to gmail, but I'm curious if there's any compelling alternatives out there nowadays |
| 02:52.00 | tz | I shifted over to google apps with my own domains |
| 02:52.20 | Thunder_Child | that's still gmail |
| 02:52.23 | tz | yep |
| 02:52.46 | tz | maintaining your own is a pain in the rear, like nevcairiel said |
| 02:52.58 | Thunder_Child | The problem is that I would not call gmail 'compelling', simply the best there currently is. |
| 02:53.08 | tz | agreed |
| 02:53.18 | Gnarfoz | if you're into webmail |
| 02:53.28 | Gnarfoz | I find it a bit annoying to use over IMAP |
| 02:53.30 | nevcairiel | if everything else is worse, its certainly compelling :p |
| 02:53.34 | Gnarfoz | stuff shows up in multiple places |
| 02:53.51 | nevcairiel | i gave up on mail clients as well |
| 02:54.13 | tz | ^this |
| 02:54.38 | nevcairiel | i used to run outlook or thunderbird, depending on $year, but eventually it just became annoying |
| 02:55.08 | nevcairiel | that was mostly around the same time i stopped using my own mail thing |
| 02:55.13 | nevcairiel | and shifted to gmail |
| 02:55.20 | tz | I used to download everything to a local server and use actual clients to connect to that, but in the end it just wasn't worth the time |
| 02:55.32 | Thunder_Child | Granted outlook has infinitely more options than a web interface it's just that the vast majority of people do not use them. |
| 02:56.35 | tz | man, keeping WTF in git would be so much easier if they wrote out savedvariables in-order every time >_< |
| 02:57.04 | Thunder_Child | Isn't that a bit much? |
| 02:57.27 | tz | howso? |
| 02:58.27 | tz | consistent serialisation of tables would mean only incremental changes are committed, rather than rewriting whole files each commit |
| 02:58.46 | nevcairiel | sort them yourself |
| 02:59.00 | tz | the thought had crossed my mind |
| 02:59.04 | Gnarfoz | I prefer the speed of having everything local without pagination load times, not lacking features because they're not hip to the webmail crowd, also I use more accounts than just gmail, etc |
| 02:59.08 | Thunder_Child | I meant why are you version controling your WTF folder? |
| 02:59.09 | nevcairiel | people around here have done such things |
| 02:59.21 | tz | sync between machines, mainly |
| 02:59.22 | Gnarfoz | (and no, I'm not adding forwads to gmail to the other accounts, nor let gmail poll them) |
| 02:59.36 | Thunder_Child | Sounds like a lot more of a pita than something like dropbox |
| 02:59.51 | Gnarfoz | why is it 05:00 |
| 03:00.00 | Thunder_Child | Why not? |
| 03:00.01 | tz | not really, it's automatic with a bunch of perl scripts |
| 03:00.12 | nevcairiel | i have a few "legacy" accounts that i eventually just set to forward to gmail, but there is barely any mail coming in anymore on those, and probably nothing actually useful anyway |
| 03:00.32 | nevcairiel | i guess if i had to manage multiple active accounts it might be different |
| 03:00.34 | nevcairiel | but alas, i dont |
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| 03:01.09 | Stanzilla | I backup my WTF folder with git, but I dont have the real one versioned, I just copy over when I did major changes |
| 03:01.37 | nevcairiel | i dont backup my WTF at all, and i never lost my settings yet |
| 03:01.45 | Stanzilla | that's just luck |
| 03:01.49 | tz | I have, and I never will again :P |
| 03:01.49 | Neffi | ^ |
| 03:01.57 | nevcairiel | why would I lose them settings |
| 03:02.08 | nevcairiel | the hdd dying where wow is on is the only real reason it would happen |
| 03:02.08 | Stanzilla | disconnects |
| 03:02.09 | Stanzilla | crashes |
| 03:02.11 | Stanzilla | many ways |
| 03:02.17 | tz | some people might accidentally destroy a partition, for instance |
| 03:02.20 | tz | >_> |
| 03:02.22 | tz | <_< |
| 03:02.27 | tz | sighs |
| 03:02.32 | nevcairiel | why would a disconnect delete my SVs |
| 03:02.34 | Neffi | DCs shouldn't be a problem. The client (is supposed to) run the logout routines and writeout the SVs |
| 03:02.41 | Stanzilla | good question, yet it still happens |
| 03:02.48 | nevcairiel | not to me |
| 03:02.52 | nevcairiel | only on funky PCs |
| 03:03.03 | Stanzilla | just luck, like I said :p |
| 03:03.08 | Neffi | Crashes at the right time sometimes corrupts SVs. And I've seen the game client screw up the WTF folder of its own accord once or twice, but that's rare |
| 03:03.14 | nevcairiel | maybe those problems are just bad luck :p |
| 03:03.38 | tz | either way, I'd rather have a safety net :P |
| 03:06.27 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: SV corruption on game crash was pretty commonplace in vanilla & bc (I think?) until they changed something to make it more robust |
| 03:06.43 | nevcairiel | well thats aeons ago |
| 03:06.45 | Gnarfoz | lost all my SV twice before I wrote a script that backed them up at every game launch |
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| 05:49.43 | relaxok | hmm this is odd |
| 05:50.00 | relaxok | i assumed stuff in the lua that called methods from self: were things in the generic UI frame class |
| 05:50.17 | relaxok | but in like WorldFrame.lua's OnLoad there's self:IgnoreDepth |
| 05:50.23 | relaxok | that's the only time it appears |
| 05:50.40 | relaxok | i dont know what that's for but that kinda screws me if self:* are frame specific |
| 05:50.52 | relaxok | maybe it's just never used otherwise |
| 05:51.31 | relaxok | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Frame/IgnoreDepth |
| 05:51.34 | relaxok | whee |
| 06:03.22 | karl_w_w | there is no self |
| 06:03.38 | karl_w_w | it's all an illusion |
| 06:06.06 | Thunder_Child | ~lart karl_w_w |
| 06:06.06 | purl | nukes karl_w_w with a single large nuke |
| 06:07.58 | karl_w_w | what it's true :P |
| 06:08.10 | karl_w_w | self only appears there because self is created there |
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| 06:25.04 | relaxok | okay thats working alright so far |
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| 14:06.31 | g0urra | https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kor-fx/kor-fx-gaming-vest-4dfx-haptic-feedback-system |
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| 17:47.07 | Arrowmaster | damnit carmax, call and tell me the car i want to look at has been transferred here already |
| 17:47.30 | Arrowmaster | im starting to get worried if i can even get my old car somewhere to trade it in |
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| 19:04.15 | A-KO | ugh |
| 19:04.17 | A-KO | carmax :/ |
| 19:04.24 | A-KO | I feel for you, but man used car sales... |
| 19:04.43 | A-KO | 10% interest rate vs 3% interest rate... |
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| 19:23.02 | Arrowmaster | going to get a credit union loan |
| 19:23.13 | Arrowmaster | even though i could buy a car for cash right now, i just dont want to |
| 19:37.05 | A-KO | I'm on my 4th car now, hopefully the last for a while...... |
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| 21:17.38 | Arrowmaster | A-KO: about to get my 4th too |
| 21:20.22 | Arrowmaster | 2 wrecked from no fault of my own and the 3rd is dying from rod knock and other issues |
| 21:21.43 | Arrowmaster | i ripped apart the back and removed the 2 rear speakers today because they will fit in my moms car and she doesnt have rear speakers |
| 21:22.29 | Arrowmaster | its so far gone nobody that makes an offer on it is going to be worried about checking the number of speakers |
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| 21:56.57 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: Could also just donate it for a tax write off. |
| 21:57.44 | Arrowmaster | i dont get enough other deductions to make not taking the standard 6100 worth it |
| 21:58.16 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: Could also do it in your parents name and they could give you the difference. |
| 21:58.30 | Arrowmaster | technically its already in my parents name |
| 21:58.53 | Arrowmaster | and they take the standard deduction too |
| 21:59.40 | Arrowmaster | the engine is about to explode, it wouldnt get much of a write off |
| 22:01.46 | Arrowmaster | was hoping this would be transfered to the local carmax by today so i could take a look at it http://www.carmax.com/enus/transfers/default.html?sn=10551894&ref_type=4&make=Mazda&model=Mazda3&year=2012&v_type=u&loc_num=7144&name=Jeremy&adcode=ShrCrFaceBk_xfer |
| 22:04.37 | Amarande | About to explode? Arrowmaster, I'm sure your local goblin engineering society would be happy to take it |
| 22:36.22 | zenzelezz | "If only someone would design a feature - perhaps even one integrated into the OS shell itself - for easily selecting and duplicating text. Perhaps it could be modeled after some increasingly-anachronistic real-world activity, like scrapbooking." |
| 22:36.30 | zenzelezz | the sarcasm... |
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| 23:29.46 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Euw it has _gears_ |
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