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| 00:51.22 | Amarande | hrm |
| 00:51.32 | Amarande | battle of darrowshire is pretty much impossible on a pvp server unless you get up at 2 in the morning, isn't it :P |
| 00:51.46 | kd3 | something something pvp happening on a pvp server |
| 00:52.22 | Amarande | (actually, I'm beginning to guess that any 'event' type quest is pretty much impossible unless you're in Pandaria on a server where the faction ratio is impossibly lopsided and you're on the 'big' faction, heh) |
| 00:53.02 | Amarande | kd3: heh. if only pve servers were still alive enough that finding a good guild is almost like competing for a job in the real world, or so it seems at least |
| 00:53.23 | Amarande | most of the time on pve servers I end up in guilds that have a zillion people and are lucky if enough folks are on to do a heroic, let alone raid |
| 00:55.48 | Amarande | for some reason the top pop servers are always PvP ones |
| 00:56.25 | Amarande | mind you, there's a reason for this I think ... I'm finding that playing on Illidan I have to be a lot more alert than on Ysera or Turalyon :) |
| 01:08.20 | Amarande | heh. the weird thing is there isn't even any useful reward for this class for that quest |
| 01:08.48 | Amarande | and yet for some reason I and the other horde guy who kept losing the pvp fights kept insisting on trying to do it (he doesn't have any useful reward from it either) |
| 01:12.54 | Semlar | you sound like you'd be better off on a pve server |
| 01:13.10 | Amarande | Semlar: there seem very few good ones left |
| 01:13.28 | Amarande | I've got characters on a couple of pve servers. they're friendly enough, but finding a good raid guild unless you've been keeping up on gear the entire xpack is like pulling teeth |
| 01:13.37 | Amarande | hell even finding a good raid *group* (since the pugs tend to want 560+ with leg cloak) |
| 01:14.01 | Amarande | need a mega server, and those seem to be almost entirely pvp |
| 01:14.19 | Semlar | just pick an old, high population pve server |
| 01:15.16 | Semlar | like illidan or something |
| 01:15.48 | Amarande | Illidan is PvP, actually, that's the one I'm on now |
| 01:15.48 | MiRai | I think he's on Illidan, but CRZ ganking is terrible until you reach the continent w/o it heh |
| 01:15.59 | Amarande | and yeah, it's entirely the fault of CRZ |
| 01:16.06 | MiRai | I used to love PvP servers until the high level ganking just got so out of hand |
| 01:16.10 | Amarande | especially given that Alliance people who are ACTUALLY ON Illidan are rarer than liberal NRA members, LOL |
| 01:16.24 | Semlar | US or EU |
| 01:16.28 | Amarande | US |
| 01:16.39 | Amarande | the native Illidan Horde:Alliance ratio is close to 20:1 |
| 01:16.59 | Amarande | MiRai: and Cataclysm becomes a massively double edged sword, too |
| 01:17.09 | fewyn | what is alliance on illidan? |
| 01:17.11 | Amarande | on the one hand ... yay beautiful 1-60 story with events and quests and all! |
| 01:17.14 | fewyn | i don't believe they exist |
| 01:17.21 | fewyn | you must be pulling my leg |
| 01:17.24 | MiRai | well, any chokepoint like the Dark Portal or Hyjal are terrible places to be on a CRZ'd PvP server |
| 01:17.37 | Amarande | on the other hand ... yay event quests that require you to actually manage to stay in one area for a lengthy period of time without someone disrupting things! |
| 01:17.55 | Amarande | I swear it was probably easier to do Battle of Darrowshire on this server back in Wrath when it was bugged! LOL |
| 01:18.13 | Amarande | MiRai: also 40-45 |
| 01:18.14 | MiRai | make a friend on a PvE server and have them zone you over :) |
| 01:18.34 | Amarande | 40-45 sucks HORRIBLY, because there seem to only be like, 2 zones in the entirety of Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms that are in that level range |
| 01:18.51 | Amarande | it's either Thousand Needles or Eastern Plaguelands, there are zero other options (pretty sure just about every other level range has more options :() |
| 01:19.28 | Semlar | maybe check here http://wowprogress.com/realms/rank/us i don't know how helpful it is |
| 01:20.00 | MiRai | MMO-C seemed to have a nice spreadsheet on realm pop, etc - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AlhGFxXGEsQadHQ0YjJZX2J0eml0RC1fUDJEbFdJWFE&type=view&gid=0&f=true&sortcolid=2&sortasc=false&rowsperpage=250 |
| 01:20.02 | Amarande | I guess I'm going to have to give Area 52 or Zul'jin a go |
| 01:20.11 | Amarande | that or go back to playing Alliance |
| 01:20.22 | Amarande | almost all the top pop servers that are horde slanted are pvp :S |
| 01:20.48 | Semlar | i think you can find something |
| 01:20.51 | Amarande | it may sound conspiracy theorish, but I'm beginning to wonder if this form of balancing was part of Blizzard's business plan from the get go heh |
| 01:21.02 | Amarande | simple. first you release heirlooms |
| 01:21.18 | Amarande | then you release more and more heirlooms. to the point that you really can't be effective in leveling pvp without spending thousands of gold every level or using heirlooms |
| 01:21.29 | Amarande | then you release crz, to make sure there's plenty of world pvp and ganking opportunities |
| 01:21.39 | Semlar | i don't set foot out of dungeons when leveling a character |
| 01:21.40 | Amarande | then the other shoe comes down ... you sell for a tidy sum the ability to boost your character to max level |
| 01:22.09 | Amarande | (since the only way to get heirlooms on a new server is to get a max level character first, and by making it tougher to level in the world, you increase the incentive to break down and buy the boost) |
| 01:22.31 | Amarande | heh. doesn't even sound like a conspiracy theory at all ... it sounds more like sane business, sadly :| |
| 01:22.35 | Semlar | but leveling sucked long before they added the ability to boost a character |
| 01:22.55 | Amarande | heh, never minded it much on pve servers |
| 01:23.09 | Amarande | I gave Illidan a try more because I wanted to be on a mega server than because I was really that keen on that much world PvP |
| 01:23.23 | Amarande | maybe the occasional world PvP, but it seems to be a bit more heatful than I expected |
| 01:23.42 | Amarande | before 30 or so, I barely saw anyone at all ... 30-35 there was only the one gnome in Southern Barrens that bothered me, and only a couple times during the whole zone |
| 01:24.07 | Amarande | 35-40 went pretty smoothly too, apart from Feralas' pissing lack of graveyards and my lucking into having one of my couple of pvp deaths be in a place with a really long GY walk |
| 01:24.16 | Amarande | 40-45 is sucking like a dyson vac, though |
| 01:25.40 | Amarande | but hey, at least I got one more quest achievement squared away out of the small handful of post-cata old world zone achievements I'm still missing |
| 01:25.51 | Amarande | (now I only need thousand needles, un'goro, and swamp of sorrows, apparently) |
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| 01:30.45 | Amarande | and yeah, probably time to reroll anyway, monk is not really suiting my temperament :S |
| 01:33.58 | Amarande | MiRai: btw, is Uldum as bad as my sky-is-falling thoughts from past months suggest it probably is? |
| 01:34.12 | Amarande | (because not only can 90's gank there just as easily, but they get honor for it too) |
| 01:36.44 | MiRai | Amarande: I moved to a PvE server awhile ago because I got tired of 90s swooping in from the sky, killing me, and then camping me. |
| 01:38.13 | Amarande | I've actually never seen a 90 camp me so far, although there was a 90 that once insisted on camping a specific spot I needed for a quest |
| 01:38.22 | MiRai | I find open world PvP to be a lot of fun when the characters in question have a similar level, but getting ganked non-stop by 90s is just so tedious and tiresome |
| 01:38.24 | Amarande | (apparently it turns out to be because they were a hunter and a rarepet spawns in that area) |
| 01:38.42 | Amarande | where things are becoming an issue is actually oddly enough becoming more from players around the same level |
| 01:38.46 | Semlar | but being ganked nonstop is the only thing pvp servers offer :( |
| 01:38.50 | Amarande | the problem with epl is that everyone does the same quest lines regardless of faction |
| 01:39.21 | Amarande | so when you need to do a long event quest like darrowshire, opposite faction players show up and mess it up ... and with how long that is, you basically need to get up at 2am to have a shot LOL |
| 01:39.36 | Amarande | never mind the death of Horgus, the death of ME is more of an issue! :p |
| 01:39.51 | Torhal | ganks Semlar's nameplates and camps his POIs. |
| 01:40.13 | Amarande | Semlar: heh, also more population and better progression than most other servers |
| 01:40.19 | Amarande | though we'll see what area 52 or zul'jin has to offer |
| 01:40.45 | Amarande | if it wasn't for most of the pve servers having such lukewarm population levels I'd probably have never even tried a pvp server at all |
| 01:40.54 | Semlar | dammit torhal leave my points of interest out of this |
| 01:41.17 | Amarande | (and until I noticed A52 and Z'J on realmpop, it also seemed like high pop PvE servers tended to be Alliance slanted, and I'm looking to get back into Horde) |
| 01:42.39 | Amarande | I'm not surprised being Horde on PvP with CRZ gets you ganked all the time though. Alliance seems to attract the griefer kid sort more than Horde, which seems to attract more civilised gamers |
| 01:42.59 | Semlar | ha |
| 01:43.13 | Semlar | well i've never played for the alliance but i wager it's the same all around |
| 01:43.31 | Trela | Same basic experience for me. Alliance would hit and run, and then mostly run if they were losing. |
| 01:43.34 | Amarande | (not surprised, I noticed in SW:TOR on Jedi Covenant that Imperials tend to be finer company on average than Republic players, too) |
| 01:44.03 | Amarande | seems like those of us who are nicer folk IRL tend to gravitate towards the 'bad guys' side in MMOs, go figure |
| 01:45.01 | Amarande | at least assuming the game offers such a side |
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| 01:53.38 | Amarande | aright. heads Zul'jin, tails Area 52 ... |
| 01:53.59 | Amarande | or I can drop the coin on the floor, that works too |
| 01:54.01 | MiRai | you always gotta have a third choice in case the coin lands on its edge |
| 01:54.14 | Amarande | tails |
| 01:54.24 | Amarande | MiRai: that's why you do the shake the coin and slap it against your arm toss |
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| 05:58.55 | airtonix | hey karl_w_w: https://vine.co/v/MXiu7w3352W |
| 06:24.03 | Maldivia | good morning, and happy friday 13th everyone |
| 06:24.13 | Arrowmaster | morning? |
| 06:24.37 | Arrowmaster | im still up and need to get up for work in less than 4 hours |
| 06:25.57 | ccox | http://designyoutrust.com/2014/06/a-razor-brand-is-trying-to-dispel-the-sexy-beard-myth-with-ads-showing-rodents-clinging-to-mens-faces/#5Sz2Gig204hLRCIr.01 |
| 06:26.14 | Maldivia | Arrowmaster: I've been running on avg 3h sleep all week :P |
| 06:26.51 | Arrowmaster | i fell asleep in my computer chair after dinner |
| 06:26.57 | Arrowmaster | now i cant get back to sleep |
| 06:27.24 | Maldivia | I'm at a conference, so parties :P |
| 06:27.45 | Arrowmaster | also on M Th and F i work 8-5 and on tuesday night i worked 11:30pm till 10:15am wednesday |
| 06:27.52 | Arrowmaster | i fucking hate this schedule |
| 06:29.57 | Maldivia | sounds rough |
| 06:30.28 | Arrowmaster | lastweek i just worked 11:30pm to 10am 4 weeknights and slept all day, it was fine then |
| 06:31.08 | Arrowmaster | but no they want to keep fucking with the scheduling and i suffer |
| 06:31.28 | Arrowmaster | oh and my car died |
| 06:31.50 | Arrowmaster | well not yet but its close |
| 06:32.02 | Arrowmaster | so have to actively find another one |
| 06:35.21 | Arrowmaster | looking at a 2012 Mazda Mazda3 i Touring 4D Sedan through carmax |
| 06:35.46 | Arrowmaster | fucking hate how rare used manual transmission cars are in the US |
| 06:48.07 | Wobin | that seems an odd distinction |
| 06:48.11 | Wobin | where do they go? |
| 06:48.23 | Wobin | Surely it's not about a -lack- of manual transmission cars? |
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| 07:06.48 | Arrowmaster | Wobin: no it is a lack of manual transmission cars |
| 07:07.07 | Wobin | really? |
| 07:07.09 | Arrowmaster | which translates into a lack of manual transmission used cars |
| 07:07.09 | Wobin | wow |
| 07:07.41 | Wobin | I'd've thought with the prediliction towards car enthusiasts and sports cars that manual transmission would be more popular |
| 07:08.15 | Wobin | also, with regards to how much more having a car is an absolute requirement in a lot of areas |
| 07:09.00 | Arrowmaster | automatic is the default when buying a new car |
| 07:09.50 | Arrowmaster | i would say less than 1/5th of the new cars sold are manual for models that give the option of manual or automatic |
| 07:10.16 | Arrowmaster | so not counting those higher end ones with computer controlled manual gearboxes |
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| 07:17.30 | Simca | haha Blizzard removed the 'name' field of Phase.dbc |
| 07:17.46 | Simca | no more dev trolling with phase names |
| 07:25.05 | airtonix | Arrowmaster: automatics :< |
| 07:28.50 | Arrowmaster | https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bNYNTDfV3Sc |
| 07:28.57 | Arrowmaster | i love this game |
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| 08:37.08 | karl_w_w | did he actually say cunt airtonix? |
| 08:37.33 | karl_w_w | it doesnt sound exactly like it, but I can't think what else it could be |
| 08:39.46 | karl_w_w | well, apparently: Pyne’s office says he said “you’re such a grub”. |
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| 08:40.15 | karl_w_w | that is obviously not what he said, so that pretty much proves he did say it |
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| 10:36.55 | zenzelezz | "Is unique_ptr guaranteed to store nullptr after move?" "Yes. Otherwise, it would be unsafe and a lot less unique." |
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| 10:51.48 | jleclanche | dont blame people for not assuming the best out of c++ |
| 10:57.27 | foxlit | are there any wow items with " in their names? |
| 10:58.19 | Mr_Rabies | i think so, but i can't recall any at the moment |
| 10:58.40 | Mr_Rabies | they may have used ' to prevent issues |
| 11:00.13 | zenzelezz | I would guess some novelty items could |
| 11:00.44 | foxlit | 31445|Last Year's "In" Belt |
| 11:01.34 | foxlit | and a bunch of guns is what I have in this cache. |
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| 11:02.31 | foxlit | meh, that's annoying. It escapes HTML attributes. |
| 11:03.04 | zenzelezz | what does? |
| 11:03.40 | foxlit | the double quote. |
| 11:03.43 | foxlit | </reparse> |
| 11:03.54 | Kalroth | <a href="Last Year's "In" Belt">Last Year's "In" Belt</a> |
| 11:04.14 | foxlit | it's more like <span title="Last Year's "In" Belt is awesome">Foo</span>, but yeah. |
| 11:04.20 | Mr_Rabies | i knew there was a darkmoon item of some sort that should use it |
| 11:26.06 | airtonix | jleclanche: what prompted that comment? |
| 11:26.48 | Kalroth | years of sexual advances and two beers |
| 11:27.04 | airtonix | so c++ as in a cup size? |
| 11:27.26 | airtonix | wait, only two beers? :/ |
| 11:27.49 | airtonix | actually. |
| 11:28.31 | airtonix | the other day, went to Hahndorf. had beer, like quarter of one. didn't feel safe to drive. |
| 11:29.10 | airtonix | i used to be able to drink an entire bottle of johnny walker |
| 11:36.12 | Kalroth | you're getting old, young man |
| 11:38.35 | mitch0 | +1 |
| 11:42.52 | airtonix | i don't get old. it just gets harder to stay awake |
| 11:47.16 | jleclanche | After the Censer of Eternal Agony hotfix yesterday, the Fire-Watcher's Oath has been hotfixed to have a 10 minute cooldown, cost 100 Timeless Coins, and work while mounted. Improvements in battlegrounds may happen in the future. |
| 11:47.20 | jleclanche | fucking good thing i waited |
| 11:47.31 | jleclanche | man the unscalable shit blizzard keeps pulling sometimes |
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| 11:48.54 | jleclanche | Kalroth: say I have a movie in English which I'm watching in a different language (Like, any language except danish). where do I get the subtitles of that language, in that language; rather than the english subtitles translated to that language? |
| 11:52.55 | Kalroth | uhm |
| 11:53.18 | Kalroth | So you're watching a movie with English audio, but you want Swedish subtitles? |
| 11:54.15 | jleclanche | Kalroth: english movie, swedish audio, swedish subtitles |
| 11:54.16 | Kalroth | I don't think there's any classification on the source of foreign subtitles, most of them are just English translations (poorly) |
| 11:54.19 | Kalroth | oh |
| 11:54.33 | jleclanche | Kalroth: and in that case I want the subtitles to the matching audio |
| 11:55.15 | jleclanche | I wouldve thought the "official" subtitles are the language script, but turns out they're not |
| 11:55.20 | Kalroth | Such subs should be included in the .mkv or at least in the release, you might get lucky and find them online though |
| 11:55.37 | jleclanche | they're a translation of the original english audio |
| 11:55.38 | Kalroth | you're looking for something like SUB or SUBBED subtitles |
| 11:56.02 | Kalroth | eg. subtitles for the subbed audio |
| 11:56.48 | jleclanche | mmhm |
| 11:56.55 | Kalroth | I've never encountered this much to be honest, usually only in anime movies |
| 11:58.09 | jleclanche | the only movies I *can* watch dubbed are animated |
| 11:58.18 | jleclanche | no fucking way Im watching a live dub |
| 11:58.35 | jleclanche | I was sort of surprised this was not default for dubbed movies though. this essentially means theres two scripts to write |
| 11:58.50 | jleclanche | but then again, I'm imagining these people managing their scripts in excel spreadsheets |
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| 12:04.14 | airtonix | i *hate* dubbed anime |
| 12:04.22 | airtonix | haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate |
| 12:04.27 | airtonix | burn it with fire |
| 12:04.51 | Kalroth | fan dubs are the best |
| 12:05.07 | Kalroth | especially when spoken with a dull emotionless voice |
| 12:06.08 | jleclanche | I must be missing something extremely deep |
| 12:06.13 | jleclanche | I tried getting into anime but I cant |
| 12:06.44 | Kalroth | I like a few movies, mainly the mainstream stuff |
| 12:06.52 | jleclanche | I'm also having trouble with the categorizing of "anime" |
| 12:06.55 | Kalroth | ghost in the shell, akira |
| 12:06.57 | jleclanche | to me, anime is the canvas, not the genre |
| 12:07.20 | Kalroth | depending on who you ask, anime is a religion |
| 12:07.21 | jleclanche | it's like "black and white" as a movie genre |
| 12:07.24 | jleclanche | haha |
| 12:07.25 | foxlit | I know, let's force you to watch the rebuild of evangelion until it makes sense. |
| 12:07.47 | Kalroth | that sounds scary |
| 12:10.25 | foxlit | jleclanche: so "I tried getting into black and white movies but I can't"? :) |
| 12:10.40 | jleclanche | ~foxlit++ |
| 12:12.46 | jleclanche | foxlit: to be honest I watched a few anime series, a couple I liked but overall its been very boring and tasteless |
| 12:12.59 | jleclanche | foxlit: I also don't like the art style. but then again Im not fan of b&w either |
| 12:12.59 | Fisker | hey foxlit |
| 12:13.02 | Fisker | but not hey Kalroth |
| 12:13.16 | Fisker | and hey jleclanche by association |
| 12:13.24 | jleclanche | fuck you and your associations |
| 12:13.33 | Fisker | :( |
| 12:13.34 | Kalroth | hay fisker |
| 12:13.38 | jleclanche | I'm not associated with either of those people |
| 12:13.42 | Fisker | hay is for horses Kalroth |
| 12:13.51 | Kalroth | pls |
| 12:13.59 | Kalroth | pøls* |
| 12:13.59 | Fisker | I'm hungry |
| 12:14.05 | Fisker | you? |
| 12:14.19 | Kalroth | did you buy a microsoft windows 8.1 surface 3 mega yet |
| 12:14.37 | Fisker | no |
| 12:14.39 | Fisker | I won't |
| 12:15.03 | jleclanche | my local indian restaurant has this picture on their front page: http://www.meghnacambridge.co.uk/images/slider-img6.jpg |
| 12:15.04 | jleclanche | man |
| 12:15.48 | Kalroth | indian food gives you red eyes |
| 12:17.08 | Fisker | oh man Kalroth |
| 12:17.09 | foxlit | reveal the world, Fisker. |
| 12:17.09 | foxlit | jleclanche: what did you watch, what did you like, and what was tasteless? |
| 12:17.09 | foxlit | Personally, I don't particularly mind the art style, but there's a wide variation in that even within "anime". |
| 12:17.13 | Fisker | this is hilarious |
| 12:17.34 | Fisker | Basically this is how they compare the Surface Pro 3 vs. Macbook Air |
| 12:17.40 | VIad | this is a odd issue - but both my nginx on my computer, and apache on another computer at home, log everyone as local ip (usually router if external, or the local ip for local requests) |
| 12:17.49 | Kalroth | didnt samsung make a new great amoled tablet |
| 12:18.32 | Fisker | "Travel?" "(Checkmark) The surface pro 3 is much lighter than the Macbook air, weights only 1,09 kg with the type cover" "(nope.avi checkmark) Macbook air weighs 1,34kg" |
| 12:18.35 | jleclanche | foxlit: Im open to recommendations of really good, engaging anime series |
| 12:18.38 | Fisker | So that settles it |
| 12:18.48 | Fisker | If I don't get a surface pro 3 I can't travel |
| 12:19.51 | jleclanche | foxlit: or really good anime movies. I have spirited away but still havent watched it |
| 12:19.57 | Fisker | Why can't they make a model with 8GB of ram and 128/256GB SSD? |
| 12:20.38 | foxlit | jleclanche: I think "good" is based on personal preferences, so this really needs a reference point as to what you consider good/terrible. |
| 12:21.31 | jleclanche | foxlit: as I said: engaging. lots of character development |
| 12:21.40 | Kalroth | jleclanche liked zombie high school a lot |
| 12:21.41 | jleclanche | which is something ive never found |
| 12:21.49 | jleclanche | and i dont remember any of the names |
| 12:24.14 | Fisker | TELL ME KALROTH |
| 12:27.52 | foxlit | engaging depends on what you find interesting; and I'm fuzzy on evaluating character development, so it's hard to avoid just giving you a list of things that I found enjoyable and risk sending you off to things you don't like. |
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| 12:30.20 | foxlit | (personally, I tend to favor plots/interesting settings/non-annoying exposition style when evaluating what to watch) |
| 12:31.51 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:34.36 | Kalroth | Fisker: they're driven by blind greed! |
| 12:34.38 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:34.45 | Fisker | I hate that Kalroth |
| 12:36.10 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:37.08 | Shirik_ | "The owner of the largest independent coal producer in the U.S. is threatening to sue the Environmental Protection Agency over its new regulations on carbon emissions from existing coal plants, saying the agency has been lying about the existence of global warming, and that the earth is actually getting colder." |
| 12:37.10 | Shirik_ | well that's special |
| 12:38.54 | stuf | oh lol |
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| 12:42.34 | airtonix | what if he is right? |
| 12:43.02 | airtonix | any of you actually carry out the scientific lab tests to confirm if either is true? |
| 12:43.15 | airtonix | or are you relying on "BroScience" |
| 12:43.44 | Shirik_ | hey |
| 12:43.49 | Shirik_ | broscience still has science in it |
| 12:44.06 | airtonix | "I don't need to know "scientifically" how eating a big mac gives me muscles, that guy over there lifts 200kg, he eatss big macs therefore it's proof" |
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| 13:36.59 | karl_w_w | now I get it airtonix |
| 13:37.13 | karl_w_w | I don't eat big macs, that's why I'm not ripped |
| 13:42.07 | Fisker | Lopeppeppy |
| 13:43.00 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, Fisker. Happy Fries Day. |
| 13:43.08 | Fisker | Mmm fries |
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| 13:53.40 | karl_w_w | Lopeppeppy you give fries? |
| 13:54.23 | Lopeppeppy | No, I usually steal them. |
| 14:01.17 | Amarande | karl_w_w: you're not missing out on anything |
| 14:01.32 | Amarande | on the rare occasions I eat a big mac, which usually means they fucked up my order, I tend to end up needing a Zantac |
| 14:02.24 | Amarande | can 6.0 be here yet? I'm looking forward to not having to worry about hit rating or reforging |
| 14:03.08 | Amarande | heh. I remember when reforging was first announced it sounded like a wonderful idea, but after a while I realised just how asstastic it really is :) |
| 14:03.43 | karl_w_w | but it is wonderful |
| 14:03.51 | Amarande | karl: think about it this way |
| 14:03.58 | Amarande | good old days: "YAY! A GEAR UPGRADE!" |
| 14:04.04 | Amarande | 6.0: "YAY! A GEAR UPGRADE!" |
| 14:04.12 | karl_w_w | no |
| 14:04.25 | Amarande | now: "Hmm, a gear upgrade ... now to spend an hour figuring out what needs to be re-reforged to make sure I'm still just at hit cap after I swap it in ..." |
| 14:04.48 | foxlit | that's fixed by removing the hit cap |
| 14:04.51 | karl_w_w | good old days: this is not a gear upgrade because it has the wrong stats on it, even though it's a full tier or more above what I currently have |
| 14:04.52 | foxlit | not by removing reforging. |
| 14:05.27 | karl_w_w | it doesn't take an hour to press a button and let an addon reforge for you |
| 14:05.38 | foxlit | that, however, is gameplay bullshit. |
| 14:05.51 | Amarande | yeah, you'd still be expected every time you get a new shiny to spend an hour looking up your min-maxing guide and re-reforging half your stuff |
| 14:05.56 | foxlit | if you have to get an addon to reforge for you, game designers have failed epically. |
| 14:05.58 | Amarande | or having to rely on an addon to do it for you |
| 14:06.23 | karl_w_w | like I said, having an addon do something for you is a far lesser evil than never getting a trinket upgrade ever |
| 14:06.55 | foxlit | I don't think so. |
| 14:06.56 | Amarande | ideally, I suppose, it should be raid difficulty that gets looked at, but people regard any sort of simplification, even if it would be a good idea, as "dumbing down" |
| 14:07.14 | Amarande | in this case, it should be that everything except maybe heroic/mythic should be reasonably doable without people needing to obsess too much over min/maxing |
| 14:07.44 | karl_w_w | why? |
| 14:07.45 | Amarande | from what I understand though, in MoP even normal raids were significantly harder than in previous xpacs, possibly even comparable to those xpacs' heroic |
| 14:07.46 | Fisker | did you steal that storefront yet Lopeppeppy? |
| 14:08.06 | Amarande | LFR has not been kind to difficulty balance, it seems |
| 14:08.29 | Amarande | karl: notice how few guilds got around to heart of fear when it was current, for instance? |
| 14:08.37 | foxlit | karl_w_w: there are no longer any stat hard-caps. |
| 14:08.52 | Amarande | some servers didn't have any guilds even *start* that instance before 5.2, from my recollections of wowprogress back then |
| 14:08.53 | Lopeppeppy | I did, Fisker, it's working this morning. |
| 14:09.03 | Fisker | \o/ |
| 14:09.08 | Fisker | for now |
| 14:09.18 | foxlit | If in those circumstances you're not getting any upgrades ever because higher item-level items have the wrong stat distribution, someone screwed up item balancing. |
| 14:09.24 | Amarande | to say nothing of heroic HoF (where even on Illidan, then the top server, only six guilds ever completed it when it was current) |
| 14:10.29 | Amarande | I'm all for content that lasts through the patch without most people complaining there's nothing to do, but when you have content that's nearly as little played as old Naxx or Sunwell, that's a balance issue :) |
| 14:13.36 | Amarande | bleh, what is with my UI |
| 14:13.57 | Amarande | every now and then (seems to almost be random) when I do a reloadui, I cannot do anything in world and lose the use of the keyboard completely until I log out and back in |
| 14:16.19 | foxlit | Amarande: Character Info -> Equipment Manager -> New Set -> Escape. |
| 14:18.15 | Amarande | also I'm still not sure why MikScrollingBattleText has trouble using its font settings |
| 14:18.37 | Amarande | it doesn't *forget* the settings, but it regularly will forget that it *has* settings and use the funky looking default font instead of what's specified in the configgle |
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| 14:38.22 | foxlit | Uldum *shakes fist* |
| 14:38.38 | foxlit | It's like some devs suddenly discovered they can make in-game custscenes and went overboard. |
| 14:39.06 | foxlit | Pretty much nothing is cancellable, and ocasionally things are just broken (duplicate models appearing for animating objects, for instance) |
| 14:41.20 | Simca | yeah, the brokeness of those cutscenes is probably what prompted them to move the in-game cutscenes over to Lua in MoP |
| 14:42.05 | Amarande | *blink*. *blink*. |
| 14:42.10 | Amarande | when did lightning bolt become castable while moving? |
| 14:42.32 | Simca | a long time ago it was made into a glyph that was basically mandatory |
| 14:42.37 | Simca | 4.2 iirc |
| 14:42.51 | Simca | then they made it baseline in 5.1 IIRC |
| 14:42.51 | Ermad | it was a Glyph for a while, and they made baseline sometime during MoP |
| 14:42.59 | Amarande | sweet. wonder if it's staying that way for 6.0 |
| 14:43.04 | Ermad | it isnt |
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| 14:44.06 | Simca | http://wowpedia.org/Glyph_of_Unleashed_Lightning I was close. 4.2 is right for the introduction of the glyph, but wasn't until 5.3 it was baseline |
| 14:45.55 | Amarande | wonder what made them make it baseline |
| 14:46.12 | Amarande | oh right, northrend inscription research ... probably to keep it from getting rare and expensive, like how they're having auto-learns for 6.0 |
| 14:46.40 | Simca | they probably realized that 95% of elemental shaman took it, and the 5% that didn't just didn't know it existed |
| 14:48.40 | Amarande | though for 6.0 it seems like they want us to make use of the cooldown that gives you 15 seconds of mobile casting |
| 14:48.55 | Amarande | although the impression seems to be ellie shamans are getting improved for WoD |
| 14:49.09 | Amarande | probably need to be ... they've always been a rare selection for some reason |
| 14:49.48 | Amarande | it's always been a spec I've liked, though, even though this will be the first time I actually get it to max level |
| 14:50.06 | Amarande | it seems to have all the good points of mage without the sucky ones |
| 14:51.36 | Amarande | (or I should say the sucky one ... the main thing I never cared for about mage is that you have practically no effective combat healing, and that squishiness becomes painfully apparent in Mists dailies) |
| 14:57.06 | Amarande | and once again I shake my head at the quest flow in the orc starting area LOL |
| 14:57.30 | Amarande | specifically, the orc that sends you to go 'find' Hana'zua |
| 14:57.41 | Amarande | chances are you already found him and did his quest while you were doing the scorpids and lazy peons quests, heh |
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| 15:03.34 | Amarande | actually, speaking of ellie shamans in WoD, unless I'm misreading the changes to hit, it looks like they'll actually be the go-to spec for once |
| 15:03.48 | Amarande | it at least sounds like the hit changes are basically going to nerf dual wielders into the ground |
| 15:04.14 | Amarande | thus shoving enhancement shamans off the throne they seem to have been on pretty much forever |
| 15:05.47 | Ermad | how? they can easily balance around knowing how often dual-wield auto attacks will miss |
| 15:06.17 | Amarande | Ermad: because everyone else has guaranteed hit (unless enemy is 4+ levels higher or they're being dumb and attacking in melee from the front) |
| 15:06.30 | Amarande | but dual wielders have a 17% miss chance, which the removal of hit rating means can not be overcome by any means |
| 15:07.04 | Ermad | so? they just need to have that made up somewhere else |
| 15:07.12 | Amarande | Ermad: keep in mind that having a non-zero hit chance is up there on the raid ostracism criteria with leprosy, halitosis, and admitting to watching the Fox News Channel |
| 15:07.20 | Amarande | er, non-zero miss chance |
| 15:07.35 | Ermad | dual wielders have never gotten hit capped for auto attacks |
| 15:07.41 | nevcairiel | dual weilders never ever went for 100% hit |
| 15:07.44 | nevcairiel | its just useless |
| 15:07.53 | Amarande | though it seems to be unclear as to whether this 17% is for white damage only or for specials as well |
| 15:08.04 | Ermad | for autos only... |
| 15:08.05 | Amarande | I should hope it's white damage only, or the dual wield specs really will become worthless |
| 15:08.15 | nevcairiel | nothing changes |
| 15:08.20 | Amarande | but yeah, I'd like to see elemental get the love for once |
| 15:08.25 | nevcairiel | understand WoW mechanics before trying to talk about them, thanks |
| 15:08.42 | Amarande | almost every other dps spec has gone through its day in the sun so far, except that enhancement is eternally preferred over elemental by most players every xpack |
| 15:09.54 | Amarande | nevcairiel: I played frost DW in Wrath, so I have some familiarity with dual wielding ... the 6.0 patch notes were not especially clear from what I saw, though |
| 15:10.08 | nevcairiel | apparently you never understood the mechanics |
| 15:10.18 | nevcairiel | i mean, you thought you needed 100% hit |
| 15:10.23 | nevcairiel | obviously no clue :P |
| 15:10.56 | Ermad | eh, for a while Ele had a good exclusive buff. then there have been a number of fights where the cleave from chain lightning was better than what Enh could |
| 15:12.24 | Amarande | I knew I needed 100% hit for specials but not white |
| 15:12.46 | Amarande | (also that DW was a nice thing because hit cap was soft, so you didn't have to worry nearly so much about wasted stats as with other specs) |
| 15:13.02 | Dagmar | Only people who can't do math need 100% hit |
| 15:13.34 | jleclanche | http://revk.www.me.uk/2014/06/the-dsr-is-dead-long-live-ccicacr.html this is the most boring blog title ive ever read |
| 15:13.46 | Amarande | Ermad: and there was also BC, where Enh was double-edged (people loved its DPS but the fact that you didn't have any threat drop except 'dirt nap' was a bit of a downer ... especially since then threat was still an issue) |
| 15:14.04 | Amarande | but still, I can't think of any time in WoW's history where Ele has been the go-to spec |
| 15:14.22 | Amarande | whereas almost every other dps spec has had a significant amount of time as the go-to, except maybe Demonology Warlock |
| 15:14.45 | Amarande | Frost Mage was probably the one whose day came latest, since it wasn't till MoP that they were really a choice spec |
| 15:15.31 | Amarande | myself I've always preferred Ele over Enh, though |
| 15:15.57 | jleclanche | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTcxODg |
| 15:15.58 | jleclanche | yess |
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| 15:16.55 | Amarande | heh, looking back, I'm surprised I liked DK in Wrath as much as I did |
| 15:17.07 | jleclanche | Im surprised you liked wow |
| 15:17.12 | Amarande | history has shown me fairly strongly that I significantly favour ranged classes |
| 15:17.36 | Amarande | although frost DK is kind of semi-hybrid in a way ... a little like Powertech in SW:TOR, which was also a class I found much to my liking |
| 15:37.23 | Stanzilla | 17:07:34 ∙ Ermad: dual wielders have never gotten hit capped for auto attacks < not exactly true |
| 15:37.26 | Stanzilla | there was a time in ICC |
| 15:38.45 | Stanzilla | apart from that, I agree that Amarande is bullshitting again :D |
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| 16:21.19 | Ackis | http://notfound.org/index.php?locale=en_US# <-- EU people w/ websites should use this for 404 errors! |
| 16:22.55 | jleclanche | Ackis: the problem with that logic is that it's anti-argument |
| 16:23.37 | jleclanche | if anyone disagrees to that statement, they're someone who hates kids and doesn't want missing children to go back to their parents etc etc |
| 16:23.45 | Amarande | Ackis, whatever happened to the simple httpd 404 error? :) |
| 16:35.18 | Ackis | jleclanche: anti-argument? I don't see how. If you do it, yay it may help, if not you aren't harming anything or implying kids should go missing/etc |
| 16:35.31 | Ackis | Amarande: no one uses simple 404 errors anymore, that was so 90s |
| 16:35.39 | jleclanche | Ackis: I wasnt talking about the website - I love these guys |
| 16:35.48 | jleclanche | I was talking about saying "people should do this" |
| 16:35.50 | Amarande | Ackis: heh, kinda like how apparently a busy signal is considered the height of gauche now |
| 16:36.18 | Amarande | (which is irritating as all hell, because there are phone support lines that will FORCE you to voicemail or even disconnect you if the queue is too long, simply in order to ensure that there's a line free so nobody gets the busy buzz) |
| 16:36.22 | jleclanche | it's a bit like saying "People should give to the red cross" for example; If I say "no", I'm a monster |
| 16:38.30 | Ackis | give to red cross is taking somethign away from you, so that argument is meh... putting a 404 page up doesn't exactly cost you anything so I don't see a direct analogy |
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| 16:42.05 | jleclanche | Ackis: maybe true for a random blog - not true for websites where you have users you care about; you are essentially giving away advertising space |
| 16:42.13 | jleclanche | the concept is not new - it's charity ads |
| 16:42.30 | jleclanche | in fact I believe that google runs charity ads on your account in various occasions (like if your account is under review etc) |
| 16:43.11 | jleclanche | there's also a host of reasons you may not want to link to either external content, or have large 404 pages |
| 16:59.17 | airtonix | http://iheartquotes.com/fortune/show/microsoft_activepromo_campaign_windows_competitive_upgrade_offer |
| 16:59.27 | airtonix | hilarious |
| 16:59.49 | airtonix | step one is sure to be a problem |
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| 17:21.31 | Amarande | airtonix: heh, back then Linux actually came on CD on a regular basis |
| 17:21.46 | Amarande | back when hundreds of megs was too much to download on dialup :) |
| 17:21.54 | karl_w_w | so you could just burn a live cd and send it to them? |
| 17:22.02 | airtonix | lawl |
| 17:22.21 | airtonix | jokes on them, i copied the magazine cd |
| 17:27.11 | karl_w_w | copyright infringement is no joke |
| 17:27.19 | karl_w_w | you wouldn't download a car would you? |
| 17:28.14 | Amarande | karl_w_w: we don't have that technology yet, people probably would if they could LOL |
| 17:28.18 | Amarande | especially with what cars cost these days |
| 17:28.26 | Amarande | but I doubt that will ever happen, what do you do with the anticar? :) |
| 17:29.21 | TC-Work | I would download a Fisker. |
| 17:30.54 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh43A4730m0 |
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| 17:41.15 | airtonix | i can download the receiver mechanism of an M4A1 Amarande |
| 17:41.58 | airtonix | http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/142265-the-first-open-source-3d-printed-gun |
| 17:43.00 | Amarande | heh, I figured we were speaking of actually downloading physical objects though, not the blueprints |
| 17:43.21 | airtonix | what's the difference? |
| 17:43.27 | airtonix | the 3d printer makes it |
| 17:43.39 | Amarande | you probably would have to spend more than a car's worth on 3D resin to print a car, though |
| 17:43.56 | airtonix | we are effectivley talking about star trek replciators here |
| 17:44.17 | airtonix | Amarande: stop being a debbie downer on the future |
| 17:44.33 | Amarande | replicators will be nice, we still need to find a way to deal with the antimatter though :) |
| 17:44.53 | airtonix | i'm happy eating fake steak made from sawdust |
| 17:45.24 | Amarande | the basic problem with being able to replicate arbitrary objects is that conservation laws dictate that you can't create matter ex nihilo without the corresponding antimatter |
| 17:45.46 | airtonix | dark energy and god particles |
| 17:45.58 | airtonix | also lasers and magnets |
| 17:46.13 | airtonix | and some new javascript libraries |
| 17:46.24 | airtonix | we can do this! |
| 17:53.33 | karl_w_w | don't forget the quantums airtonix |
| 17:53.42 | airtonix | omfg |
| 17:53.44 | karl_w_w | you have to have the quantums in there |
| 17:53.54 | airtonix | how can i forget the QUANTIMS |
| 17:54.10 | airtonix | buys karl_w_w a beer |
| 17:54.55 | karl_w_w | where is the beer and is it empty? |
| 17:56.33 | airtonix | you looked so schroedenginersomeguy made it vanish |
| 18:06.15 | karl_w_w | wow the new priest hearthstone card is so shit |
| 18:11.32 | foxlit | drop two of those and a defender between them. |
| 18:22.46 | karl_w_w | so it's turn 10 foxlit? :P |
| 18:23.03 | karl_w_w | priest don't need more slow cards |
| 18:23.10 | foxlit | no, it's turn 4, you've thoughtstolen 4 innervates. |
| 18:23.21 | Dagmar | Amarande: That's like saying you can't make fire without creating ice |
| 18:23.58 | karl_w_w | so turn 2 coin thoughtsteal 2 innervates, turn 3 thoughsteal 2 innervates, turn 4 drop the combo |
| 18:24.21 | karl_w_w | time to work out some probabilities |
| 18:24.21 | foxlit | brilliant plan. You even have an extra innervate left over. |
| 18:25.23 | foxlit | but what do you want? It trades for more than one minion even if played on an empty board on turn 3. |
| 18:26.08 | karl_w_w | vast majority of cases it will die with nothing else on the board |
| 18:27.13 | karl_w_w | my brain is broken, I can't work out the probability of drawing a thoughtsteal by turn 2 |
| 18:27.30 | foxlit | yeah, you're pretty bad. |
| 18:27.33 | karl_w_w | you've had 5 draws, 2 out of 30 cards are thoughtsteal |
| 18:27.54 | foxlit | but you need 2 thoughtsteals out of 6 cards. |
| 18:28.06 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 18:28.28 | foxlit | but okay, just draw a power word shield, have the opponent drop a 1-cost minion on turn 1, then play the coldlight oracle on turn 2. |
| 18:29.42 | foxlit | (does the pws make things easier or harder?) |
| 18:29.48 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:30.04 | karl_w_w | to work out, harder, to get the combo easier |
| 18:30.46 | karl_w_w | 2/30 + 2/29 + 2/28 + 2/27 + 2/26 is the chance of drawing one by turn 2 |
| 18:30.51 | karl_w_w | without pws |
| 18:31.41 | karl_w_w | druids dont run coldlight oracle btw :P |
| 18:32.13 | karl_w_w | I guess we just need the chance of not drawing both by turn 3 |
| 18:32.54 | karl_w_w | 28/30*27/29*26/28*25/27*24/26 |
| 18:33.21 | karl_w_w | that's wrong as well cos you can draw 1 |
| 18:33.26 | foxlit | mulligan. |
| 18:33.29 | Lopeppeppy | So, how do you politely tell the "social activity coordinator" at work that their activities are m-f stupid? |
| 18:33.40 | Fisker | sarcasm Lopeppeppy |
| 18:33.43 | Fisker | sarcasm and smileys |
| 18:33.47 | karl_w_w | mulligan is probably easier to work out |
| 18:34.03 | TC-Work | Lopeppeppy: You don't care, and you ignore it. |
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| 18:34.54 | Lopeppeppy | I tried, TC, she emailed me PERSONALLY about why I won't participate, and cc'd my boss. "Because I have no baby pictures of myself, so f off," just doesn't seem like what I should write back. |
| 18:35.22 | TC-Work | Lopeppeppy: Unless it is required you do not have to do shit. |
| 18:36.04 | foxlit | karl_w_w: out of interest, what do you see it dying to if you play it on turn 2/3? |
| 18:36.24 | Fisker | why baby pictures Lopeppeppy ? |
| 18:36.25 | Fisker | O_o |
| 18:36.28 | karl_w_w | anything |
| 18:36.46 | Lopeppeppy | It's for a "fun contest" at our staff retreat, Fisker. Guess who that is, win a Hershey Kiss! |
| 18:36.51 | Lopeppeppy | ... no. Just so very no. |
| 18:36.57 | foxlit | it's 4 health. |
| 18:37.01 | karl_w_w | zoo decks will have no problem, rogues will have no problem, most decks have enough removal |
| 18:37.09 | Fisker | yes Lopeppeppy |
| 18:37.10 | Fisker | Agree |
| 18:37.12 | Fisker | fuck that |
| 18:37.32 | foxlit | so it eats a backstab and kills a 2+/3- minion? |
| 18:37.49 | foxlit | kills a 3/2 and deals 3 to the face? |
| 18:38.09 | karl_w_w | so it's a worse version of a harvest golem |
| 18:38.35 | foxlit | harvest golem can't kill, say, clerics. |
| 18:38.38 | karl_w_w | or a horrible version of an unbound elemental |
| 18:38.58 | foxlit | and if it *survives*, you get another minion with +3 health. |
| 18:39.08 | karl_w_w | no you dont |
| 18:39.31 | karl_w_w | if it survives and your opponent leaves you the option to kill it with another minion on the board |
| 18:41.20 | karl_w_w | and then you're assuming they're going to give a shit if a minion is slightly bigger |
| 18:41.26 | karl_w_w | when a lot of decks don't |
| 18:42.12 | karl_w_w | by this stage they've usually flooded the board or started dropping giants or have you down to half health, depending on the opponent |
| 18:42.53 | karl_w_w | for a priest card to be any good at 3 cost it would have had to have an immediate effect on the board |
| 18:43.03 | Fisker | Why are you so anti-social Lopeppeppy? |
| 18:43.19 | karl_w_w | if it had taunt built in it would be ok :P |
| 18:45.39 | Lopeppeppy | Because this whole "personal life" thing is... PERSONAL. I don't bring it to work. |
| 18:50.41 | Fisker | :3 |
| 18:57.28 | Mr_Rabies | just submit a photo of danny trejo's face photoshopped on a random baby |
| 19:03.36 | jleclanche | love it when my router fucks out |
| 19:05.53 | Mr_Rabies | better than fucking in, i guess |
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| 19:12.47 | jleclanche | anyone here without ipv6 access? |
| 19:14.39 | Stanzilla | jleclanche: me |
| 19:14.49 | jleclanche | Stanzilla: can you reach https://leclan.ch? |
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| 19:15.04 | Stanzilla | jleclanche: no |
| 19:20.23 | Mr_Rabies | nope, jleclanche |
| 19:20.45 | jleclanche | (you ask for people without ipv6 of course americans answer.) |
| 19:21.39 | nevcairiel | the vast majority of people here is probably without v6 |
| 19:21.59 | jleclanche | Yet here you are, without ipv6 |
| 19:22.04 | jleclanche | oh wait. |
| 19:22.13 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 19:22.16 | Stanzilla | jerome :3 |
| 19:22.24 | nevcairiel | not that it matters really, v6 support on many websites and services is terrible |
| 19:22.28 | karl_w_w | "Martinez-Gonzalez also found people who ate three slices of white bread per day were 40 percent more likely to gain weight as compared to those who just ate one slice." eat more food = gain weight |
| 19:22.32 | karl_w_w | fuckin genius |
| 19:22.40 | nevcairiel | i found a whole bunch of sites that offer v6 in DNS but connections fail |
| 19:23.03 | jleclanche | yeah because people dont get those bugs reported, because people are fucking clueless |
| 19:23.15 | nevcairiel | and apparently even my ISP has its v6 screwed up a bit, i cant use WoW in v6 because the routing to their network seems broken |
| 19:23.45 | jleclanche | the state of v6 on the net is pathetic not because of the lack of interest, but because nobody knows whats going on most of the time when something with it is broken or works |
| 19:24.41 | nevcairiel | i set some of systems to prefer v4 now if both are available to work around this shit |
| 19:24.47 | nevcairiel | some of my* |
| 19:25.04 | Fisker | boops Lopeppeppy |
| 19:25.22 | Lopeppeppy | ... I read that as "boobs" and you were soooo about to get in trouble. :) |
| 19:25.42 | nevcairiel | we read what we want to read |
| 19:30.04 | Fisker | I agree with nevcairiel |
| 19:30.08 | Fisker | Perv |
| 19:30.56 | Fisker | I'm too awkward forb actual sexual innuendo |
| 19:31.03 | Fisker | For* |
| 19:36.39 | karl_w_w | Lopeppeppy, why would Fisker get in trouble for that he doesn't even have boobs |
| 19:38.23 | foxlit | is there a quest tracker that does not suck? |
| 19:38.34 | foxlit | the default strategy of tracking everything just fills the right side of the screen with junk. |
| 19:40.17 | Lopeppeppy | I do, karl_w_w, and perhaps he was casting aspersions. |
| 19:41.25 | Fisker | I would never cast aspersions |
| 19:41.30 | Fisker | Whatever that is |
| 19:42.45 | Lopeppeppy | cast aspersions on ____________ = to make a rude/ insulting remark about ___________ |
| 19:42.53 | Fisker | On |
| 19:42.56 | Fisker | Oh* |
| 19:43.13 | karl_w_w | don't kid Lopeppeppy. aspersions are large fishing nets used to catch tuna |
| 19:43.26 | Fisker | Nooooo |
| 19:43.28 | karl_w_w | she was suggesting you wanted to use them to catch boobs |
| 19:43.34 | foxlit | aspersions are baby aspirations. |
| 19:44.34 | Fisker | Don't you have an island to run and addon environments to ruin? |
| 19:44.45 | kd3 | 1-1 |
| 19:45.12 | foxlit | all that's left is the boring part, Fisker. |
| 19:45.28 | Fisker | Running Bornholm? |
| 19:46.18 | foxlit | Bornholm runs itself. |
| 19:46.33 | Lopeppeppy | spersions are for sparaguses. |
| 19:48.36 | karl_w_w | I'm sparagus! |
| 19:48.53 | foxlit | you're from argus? |
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| 20:07.07 | zenzelezz | mac and cheese + Bacardi Razz - stayin' classy |
| 20:07.50 | Neffi | zenzelezz: yum http://i.imgur.com/8ubjSvk.jpg |
| 20:08.32 | zenzelezz | what a cheesy computer |
| 20:10.45 | foxlit | was anything added to the world since 5.4.2? |
| 20:11.24 | Fisker | Tons of babies foxlit |
| 20:13.58 | foxlit | you can't see those from space, Fisker. |
| 20:14.37 | Fisker | Depends on the baby |
| 20:15.10 | foxlit | not even if you stacked them up all the way to the moon (not that I'm advocating gorrilla stacking, mind you) |
| 20:15.41 | Fisker | You could see a baby in space from space |
| 20:17.18 | foxlit | even if it's six point three years old? |
| 20:17.33 | Fisker | Not a baby then |
| 20:17.53 | Fisker | Should I go to sleep though? |
| 20:18.08 | foxlit | must consult the mouse. |
| 20:21.51 | Fisker | What mouse? |
| 20:24.29 | foxlit | Fisker: http://go-hero.net/i/mouse.jpg |
| 20:25.26 | Fisker | O_o |
| 20:25.31 | Fisker | What did it say? |
| 20:27.02 | foxlit | Nothing; it's a mouse. It makes noises that are then conviniently interpreted to fit with the plot. |
| 20:27.18 | Fisker | ok |
| 20:27.29 | Fisker | I interpreted it as sleep then |
| 20:27.59 | Fisker | Bye cruel foxlit |
| 20:28.17 | foxlit | isn't it rather early? |
| 20:28.27 | Fisker | Maybe |
| 20:28.34 | Fisker | I'm tired |
| 20:28.35 | foxlit | I mean, it's still light out. |
| 20:29.24 | Fisker | I'll just wake up 6am tomorrow so np |
| 20:29.39 | Rythal | the smart people go to bed when the sun rises, and get up when the sun sets |
| 20:29.47 | Rythal | no cancer :| |
| 20:30.01 | kd3 | 1-4 wow |
| 20:30.08 | foxlit | death by vitamin d deficiency might be worse. |
| 20:30.57 | Fisker | I don't get vitamin d deficiency |
| 20:31.05 | Fisker | Unless I do |
| 20:31.07 | Fisker | Fuck the sun |
| 20:37.37 | kd3 | 1-5! |
| 20:37.47 | kd3 | well, I don't think I can expect anything from my dutch friends for a while |
| 20:39.00 | TC-Work | Except screaming |
| 20:39.06 | TC-Work | Also, Spoilers? |
| 20:41.59 | nevcairiel | spoilers for a live sports event? |
| 20:42.13 | TC-Work | Lots of people can only watch it after work |
| 20:43.17 | nevcairiel | if you dont want to be spoiled for something like the world cup, you gotta close all lines of communication and walk around in a blind fold |
| 20:45.04 | Amarande | zenzelezz, have you tried those new Seagram's coolers that come in the singly sold beer bottle sized bottles? |
| 20:45.16 | TC-Work | Bullshit. There can be an expectation that people will not just blurt it out. |
| 20:45.54 | nevcairiel | there can be an expectation that people may want to talk about it |
| 20:45.54 | zenzelezz | Amarande: don't think we have that in Norway |
| 21:32.16 | Neffi | http://youtu.be/4dvQDNgYmKU |
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