| 00:01.46 | Cide | Shirik: so just a visual update? |
| 00:01.51 | Shirik | yes |
| 00:01.52 | Cide | or did they change layout as well |
| 00:02.00 | MiRai | I'm not asking you to do it (unless you want to :)), but would you mind if I showed Choonster your addon's code to see if he could perhaps implement something? |
| 00:02.03 | Shirik | it looks just visual |
| 00:02.06 | Cide | well for a game that popular it is about time it looks SOMEWHAT POLISHED |
| 00:02.07 | Shirik | I don't notice anything majorly different |
| 00:02.10 | Cide | unlike the garbage it looks like atm |
| 00:02.50 | Cide | it doesn't look very dota though |
| 00:02.56 | Cide | other than the fact that dota looks polished |
| 00:03.30 | Shirik | what are you talking about |
| 00:03.34 | Shirik | the art looks exactly like dota |
| 00:03.44 | Semlar | MiRai: i can add it to any nameplate, but if you want it on a focus target that isn't a player it requires you to identify their GUID which is complicated |
| 00:03.46 | Mr_Rabies | so they're doing yet another art revamp for LoL? |
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| 00:03.52 | Mr_Rabies | what is this, #4 or 5 so far? |
| 00:03.54 | Cide | it is more cartoony |
| 00:04.22 | Cide | dota looks more like a painting |
| 00:04.42 | Mr_Rabies | i'm really interested to see what riot's up to other than LoL |
| 00:04.52 | MiRai | Semlar: I see -- Well, this is obviously over my head in terms of Lua, so I don't know what to say ;) |
| 00:04.56 | Mr_Rabies | they just hired Giancarlo Volpe and Ghostcrawler, so they gotta be up to something new |
| 00:05.00 | MiRai | I'd be using it in both PvE and PvP |
| 00:05.11 | Cide | everything in dota is way higher poly count |
| 00:05.22 | Cide | dota looks much better imo |
| 00:05.28 | Cide | even though this update improves LoL's looks a ton |
| 00:05.31 | Semlar | MiRai: well, do you care about it marking focus targets that aren't players |
| 00:05.54 | Semlar | i basically never focus target anything that isn't in my group |
| 00:06.24 | Semlar | or do you want it to mark your target |
| 00:06.37 | Mr_Rabies | i think the next thing MOBA games need to work on is their terrible communites |
| 00:06.50 | MiRai | Yeah, I would be using focus in both PvE and PvP (player and non-player), but honestly I'd like to see the crosshairs in action for my non-focus target. |
| 00:07.00 | MiRai | I don't know if that would get annoying fast... or what |
| 00:07.05 | Cide | Mr_Rabies: can't |
| 00:07.26 | Mr_Rabies | sure they can |
| 00:07.51 | Mr_Rabies | step 1. turn off chat entirely outside of clan v clan play or whatever |
| 00:07.54 | Cide | having a team game where mistakes are punished EXTREMELY HEAVILY, and affect the whole team, and you have a huge time investment into each and every match (30+ minutes) |
| 00:08.06 | Cide | people will be angry at you for fucking up |
| 00:08.16 | MiRai | Semlar: I don't want to bother you to change your addon for someone you don't know, but Choonster has done custom work for me in the past and I imagine he might be willing to dig through this to meet my requirements ;) |
| 00:08.30 | Cide | turning off chat is not an option since you need a lot of coordination to play well |
| 00:08.34 | Cide | it's a team game |
| 00:08.39 | Mr_Rabies | it's 100% an option |
| 00:08.46 | Mr_Rabies | upset all the jerks, have them leave for something else |
| 00:08.49 | Cide | if you want a casual game |
| 00:08.50 | Mr_Rabies | bring it back when you think they're gone |
| 00:09.01 | Cide | that's not dota's target audience |
| 00:09.02 | Semlar | MiRai: it would be easier for me to write than it would be for him to go through my code for |
| 00:09.28 | Cide | even something as casual as strife has chat |
| 00:09.32 | Cide | no chat with the enemy team |
| 00:09.34 | Cide | but still team chat |
| 00:10.06 | MiRai | Well, I do have to go AFK in a few, but let me figure out exactly what I'd be looking for and I will send you a PM -- If that's alright? |
| 00:10.40 | Mr_Rabies | i'd punish harassment and insults heavily |
| 00:10.48 | Semlar | sure |
| 00:10.50 | Mr_Rabies | first offense is a week ban, third offense is account closure |
| 00:12.16 | Semlar | i wrote it as a target indicator but it was redundant with the target arrows i have |
| 00:12.42 | Cide | sure |
| 00:13.53 | Mr_Rabies | if they don't fix their toxic community their easy access to cash is going to be limited when someone figures out how to get rid of all of the jerks |
| 00:14.29 | Cide | I don't think most players consider jerks the problem wth dota |
| 00:15.04 | Cide | there are quite few problems with dota if you buy into the learning curve and difficulty of the game |
| 00:15.57 | Mr_Rabies | it's certainly my problem with dota |
| 00:16.05 | Mr_Rabies | also my problem with a lot of team games, especially on pc |
| 00:16.50 | Mr_Rabies | griefers and jerks ruin every battlefield game, team stackers ruin most online pc games that don't have random teams or matchmaking |
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| 01:16.22 | Shirik | welp |
| 01:16.26 | Shirik | spent 2 hours on the phone with Verizon |
| 01:16.35 | Shirik | now I am off to the Verizon store for even further assistance |
| 01:16.36 | Shirik | wheeeeeeeee |
| 01:22.05 | Wobin | good luck |
| 01:22.57 | Dagmar | The phone won't provision? |
| 01:23.29 | Dagmar | That's a bummer |
| 01:38.03 | Shadowed | Torhal :( |
| 01:38.26 | Torhal | Shirik: Hmm? |
| 01:38.34 | Torhal | Shadowed, even. |
| 01:38.37 | Torhal | Tabfil! |
| 01:38.43 | Torhal | Typefail as well! |
| 01:38.44 | Shadowed | packager seems to have died |
| 01:38.50 | Shadowed | tag I pushed an hour ago isn't showing up |
| 01:38.58 | Torhal | SUF? |
| 01:39.02 | Shadowed | yea http://www.wowace.com/addons/shadowed-unit-frames/ |
| 01:40.11 | Torhal | Shadowed: Wasn't the packager - was the damn worker that schedules the packager. On rare occasions it scoops up repos that need to be packaged and then promptly die before telling the packager what to do. |
| 01:40.15 | Shadowed | rofl |
| 01:40.21 | Shadowed | nice |
| 01:40.25 | Torhal | Indeed. :/ |
| 01:43.24 | Shadowed | thanks! |
| 01:50.46 | tz | ooo 4.0.0 |
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| 02:08.58 | Sintacks | someone should make an app that you can have mumble overlay on that you can put anywhere on your screen, that's completely transparent and clickthrough |
| 02:09.07 | Sintacks | except that the overlay wouldn't be transparent |
| 02:12.09 | airtonix | Torhal: so much fail |
| 02:15.10 | Torhal | smites airtonix with a ball of Fail. |
| 02:16.56 | pompy | le sighh.... http://blogs.seattletimes.com/today/2014/06/shooting-on-seattle-pacific-campus-2-victims-reported/ |
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| 03:15.19 | Jamash | Mr_Rabies: The problems with team games are the problems with *teams* |
| 03:25.02 | airtonix | hush now |
| 03:31.19 | pompy | for science https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1efsA8PQmDA&feature=youtu.be |
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| 04:39.06 | Shirik | Dagmar: turns out it was a defective phone |
| 04:39.10 | Shirik | they replaced it and everything is good now |
| 04:39.22 | Thunder_Child | You are a defective phone. |
| 04:39.23 | Shirik | kinda a bizzare defect though, data works but no voice |
| 04:40.10 | Thunder_Child | And for sure it was a hardware failure? |
| 04:40.24 | Thunder_Child | Sounds software since I think both vioce and data go over the same chip. |
| 04:40.34 | Thunder_Child | voice* |
| 04:41.39 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: 4G that worked or just wifi? |
| 04:41.47 | Shirik | 4g |
| 04:42.12 | Shirik | and no we're not really sure it's a hardware failure, but we were out of options on the software front |
| 04:42.23 | Shirik | it was a brand new phone, not many things we could screw up (we also did a factory reset anyway) |
| 04:42.56 | Thunder_Child | http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+S5+Teardown/24016 Meh, too many bits inside to know. |
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| 04:51.18 | Primer | I'm trying out TicTac, as recommended here earlier and I think it's perfect with ONE exception: I can't get it to NOT fade away, and take 2 seconds to do so, when I mouse out of a world player/NPC |
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| 04:55.33 | Fisker | TicTac is a candy Primer |
| 04:56.06 | Primer | indeed |
| 04:56.10 | Primer | I meant TipTac |
| 04:56.14 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 04:56.17 | Fisker | I need to work soon |
| 04:56.23 | airtonix | hey fisker |
| 04:56.42 | airtonix | oop |
| 04:57.14 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: Could be that the audio codec was busted? |
| 04:57.50 | Primer | ugh, I really wish this tooltip would just go away as soon as I stop mousing over the unit |
| 05:00.31 | MiRai | Primer: THere's a "Fading" section in the TipTac options |
| 05:03.37 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: Then it would be both I guess, since I suspect that something like that would be akin to prom. |
| 05:04.21 | Iriel | it’s a specific chip, which I would think not involved in data but required to do anything with voice. |
| 05:04.34 | Iriel | Who really knows though with modern devices |
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| 06:47.33 | sb | morning |
| 06:52.49 | nevcairiel | Shirik: now that you mention it, i just remember a friend having a similar failure with his Samsung Galaxy S4, he could still call people technically, but he wouldn't hear anything, nor would they hear him, got the motherboard replaced in the phone when he send it in |
| 07:03.20 | Wobin | nevcairiel: ... actually that -does- sound familiar |
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| 07:35.23 | airtonix | best firefox addone ever: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/w3schools-hider/ |
| 07:36.22 | airtonix | lulz: http://userscripts.org:8080/ |
| 07:37.45 | airtonix | dissapointed |
| 07:39.52 | stuf_ | airtonix: ohhhh yeah |
| 07:40.28 | airtonix | looks like the people that took over haven't heard of unit tests before deployment |
| 07:41.18 | airtonix | deployment? lulz we edit live sites! |
| 07:43.51 | stuf_ | pfft, unit testing is for pussies. also, notepad should suffice for everyone. |
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| 07:45.01 | Kalroth | you don't need to test it, if you code it correctly the first time! |
| 07:54.58 | airtonix | real men dictate via stuff |
| 07:55.08 | airtonix | also things |
| 07:56.39 | Kalroth | and marshmallow over a bonfire |
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| 08:53.45 | airtonix | i've seen you wouldn't believe Kalroth |
| 08:55.02 | Kalroth | things you accidentally |
| 08:57.13 | airtonix | oh i never accidentally |
| 08:57.47 | airtonix | i'm always like: "oooooh yeah!" |
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| 08:59.03 | airtonix | anyway Kalroth, you should stop being jealous. it doesn't suit you. |
| 08:59.56 | Kalroth | stop telling me how to feel this relationship isn't working we should see others |
| 09:00.48 | stuf_ | seems like there's potential for escalation here |
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| 09:08.50 | airtonix | launch the missiles! |
| 09:11.31 | Workfoz | then have a nap |
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| 10:37.35 | zenzio | "C# is a great language, but sometimes it gives you the feeling that first Microsoft creates the problem (not allowing multiple inheritance) and then provides the solution, which is rather a tedious one." |
| 10:37.51 | zenzio | it's interesting to hear someone speak of lack of multiple inheritance as an inherent problem |
| 10:37.58 | zenzio | seems like most people dread it |
| 10:38.20 | nevcairiel | it can be quite useful, i use it occasionally in C++, but on the other hand I never *really* missed it in Java |
| 10:38.32 | Kalroth | just use interfaces, np! |
| 10:38.45 | zenzio | not claiming it can't be useful |
| 10:39.02 | nevcairiel | just gotta avoid the diamond problem |
| 10:39.03 | Kalroth | "Since multiple inheritance is bad (it makes the source more complicated) C# does not provide such a pattern directly." |
| 10:39.54 | Kalroth | ahh, it's a cross language issue really |
| 10:40.00 | Kalroth | "C# and the .net CLR have not implemented MI because they have not concluded how it would inter-operate between C#, VB.net and the other languages yet, not because "it would make source more complex"" |
| 10:40.25 | nevcairiel | I can use MI with C++.net though |
| 10:40.33 | nevcairiel | ie. managed C++ |
| 10:40.58 | Kalroth | Yeah, I'm guessing the culprit is VB |
| 10:44.42 | karl_w_w | "Despite being hopelessly outnumbered, I think Beats are worth it because I don't think Apple would buy them if they were junk." |
| 10:44.52 | karl_w_w | these are the fucking people we have to share the planet with |
| 10:45.14 | nevcairiel | these are the people why it was worth buying beats |
| 10:46.00 | karl_w_w | i wonder how many pairs they will have to sell to make their money back |
| 10:46.07 | karl_w_w | 3 or 4? |
| 10:46.26 | nevcairiel | maybe 5 if you account for taxes |
| 10:47.02 | Mr_Rabies | to be fair beats fit the apple business model pretty much 100% |
| 10:47.28 | karl_w_w | the best/worst/most tragic part is that people who are otherwise pretty damn poor will save up and 'invest' in a set of Beats |
| 10:48.26 | karl_w_w | I guess the reason they are poor is they are too stupid to do any research beyond "omg what are Apple doing right now?" |
| 10:49.34 | karl_w_w | sometimes it's all I can do to not laugh at strangers who walk around with them on |
| 10:50.13 | Kalroth | Apple should troll-purchase MySpace, people would go "OMG HIDDEN INTARNET TRESURE!!1" |
| 10:50.26 | Mr_Rabies | from my experience in a rural area, poor people rarely buy apple products, they mostly just get whatever's cheapest |
| 10:50.32 | Mr_Rabies | to fit the bill |
| 10:50.57 | Mr_Rabies | phones are mostly free android handsets from their carrier, computers are mostly acer or super cheap black friday special hp laptops |
| 10:51.23 | Kalroth | not always, I often see poor people buying Apple products because they think it shows them as not poor, a status symbol |
| 10:52.03 | Mr_Rabies | it could be bias though since maybe people just don't assume the computer shop i work at doesn't service apple stuff |
| 10:52.09 | Mr_Rabies | er |
| 10:52.12 | Mr_Rabies | just assume* |
| 10:52.15 | Kalroth | too often i see youngins with iphone5s and ipad3 whining about how little they get from the social network because they can't find a job |
| 10:52.48 | Mr_Rabies | we do limited service on apple stuff depending on what it is |
| 10:52.58 | Kalroth | of course, it's often on a 24 month lease, but they still have to pay for it some how |
| 10:53.17 | Mr_Rabies | since apple doesn't provide parts for anyone other than their "genius bars" it can definitely vary |
| 10:53.47 | Mr_Rabies | and some just aren't worth fixing |
| 10:53.57 | Mr_Rabies | the iphone 4 and/or 4S i think? |
| 10:54.03 | Mr_Rabies | whichever one glues the shit out of the screen |
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| 11:04.17 | airtonix | screws? lol we glue shit like tar babies |
| 11:04.29 | airtonix | then you'll never escape our eco system |
| 11:18.55 | Mr_Rabies | isn't tar baby a racial slur D: |
| 11:19.51 | airtonix | only because you made it one |
| 11:20.16 | airtonix | which begs the question, what are your bigoted predelations? |
| 11:20.32 | airtonix | :> |
| 11:21.05 | Mr_Rabies | ah, it's associated with uncle remus and also kind of sounds like something that's been used in that manner (and probably has) |
| 11:21.43 | Mr_Rabies | i thought that term in particular was one used to refer to a particularly bad caricature |
| 11:21.58 | airtonix | yes you definitely live in a world of apology and fear |
| 11:22.09 | airtonix | i live in a world where i have done nothing wrong |
| 11:23.18 | Mr_Rabies | i live in the southeast us, so yeah |
| 11:23.33 | Mr_Rabies | a world of apology and fear (though probably not enough apology) |
| 11:23.53 | airtonix | i am not responsible for the actions of my ancestors |
| 11:24.15 | airtonix | or the people who walked before me on the land i now stand |
| 11:24.55 | airtonix | same with any gnre or group you want to assign me with |
| 11:26.03 | Mr_Rabies | that is probably a term you might want to avoid using too much for fear of misunderstanding |
| 11:26.15 | Mr_Rabies | i figured that's not what you meant by context, but not everyone would |
| 11:27.36 | Mr_Rabies | anyway |
| 11:27.38 | Mr_Rabies | going to bed |
| 11:27.44 | airtonix | no! |
| 11:27.46 | Mr_Rabies | enjoy this spoopy gif in the meantime http://i.easel.blolol.com/21e9a896.gif |
| 11:27.48 | airtonix | you no sleep |
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| 11:54.17 | airtonix | miui v6(unofficial) for nexus5 available |
| 12:01.28 | Kalroth | omgggg |
| 12:04.08 | jleclanche | squee Kalroth |
| 12:04.14 | jleclanche | hey are you on wildstar Kalroth? |
| 12:04.33 | Kalroth | nope, i played the open beta and found it much too like WoW |
| 12:04.40 | Kalroth | so i guess i'm just too old for MMOs now |
| 12:05.04 | jleclanche | Kalroth: huh, funny, I found that it really moves the wow/eq genre forward |
| 12:05.19 | jleclanche | its the same genre as wow but definitely not "like" it id say |
| 12:05.32 | jleclanche | but maybe you're just too old for everything |
| 12:05.42 | Kalroth | the skills were different, but the rest gave me a deja vu |
| 12:05.58 | Kalroth | but i only played to level 20 something |
| 12:09.11 | airtonix | story of your life? |
| 12:09.29 | airtonix | beer gut to the grave |
| 12:17.47 | airtonix | walter white the policeman just killed me in a gang hideout :< |
| 12:18.07 | airtonix | 150k income, recently went to iraq... |
| 12:26.12 | karl_w_w | do it airtonix |
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| 13:13.29 | karl_w_w | since when was spectate not a word? |
| 13:14.07 | Kalroth | for billions of years before it was used the first time |
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| 13:15.06 | karl_w_w | i see |
| 13:15.28 | Kalroth | but it's been a word since it became a word |
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| 13:21.27 | karl_w_w | sometimes you google something that should have results and it just doesn't, like "best 7zip settings which can be opened natively in windows" |
| 13:22.08 | Workfoz | 7z can be opened natively in windows? |
| 13:22.14 | Stanzilla | no |
| 13:22.21 | karl_w_w | no but you can make zips in 7z |
| 13:22.50 | Kalroth | maybe you should be better at google |
| 13:23.15 | Kalroth | like "7zip make zip" |
| 13:23.23 | karl_w_w | in fact I can't find any documentation at all of what zip settings windows supports |
| 13:23.29 | karl_w_w | I know how to make a zip file |
| 13:24.10 | Kalroth | which zip settings are you thinking of? |
| 13:24.32 | g0urra | I'm guessing compression is one of them |
| 13:24.35 | Semlar | are you doing this from windows? |
| 13:24.44 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 13:24.59 | Semlar | i literally just right click on a folder, go to 7zip and add to x.zip |
| 13:25.14 | karl_w_w | Kalroth, thinks like compression method, word size, dictionary size |
| 13:25.45 | nevcairiel | have you actually found a .zip file that doesnt work in windows? |
| 13:25.59 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 13:26.03 | nevcairiel | most of these settings influence the compressor much more then they do the decompressor |
| 13:26.42 | Kalroth | yeah, method is the only one that matters, and if you pick deflate there, you should be fine |
| 13:28.01 | Kalroth | also dont encrypt :P |
| 13:28.39 | nevcairiel | yeah anything but deflate may have bad support |
| 13:28.45 | karl_w_w | I seem to have crashed the native one trying to compress |
| 13:29.18 | Kalroth | wait weren't you compressing using 7zip? |
| 13:29.57 | karl_w_w | not yet, that was my next plan because I seem to have crashed the native one |
| 13:30.18 | karl_w_w | compressing 500mb worth of minidumps |
| 13:30.19 | pompy | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet-security/10880208/Vodafone-governments-use-secret-cables-to-tap-phones.html |
| 13:30.35 | karl_w_w | damn those vodafone governments! |
| 13:31.04 | Kalroth | yeah GCHQ is just as bad as NSA, if not worse |
| 13:31.11 | airtonix | customisation on window. HAH |
| 13:33.30 | Kalroth | "Not all .ZIP features are supported by the Windows Compressed Folders capability. For example, AES Encryption, split or spanned archives, and Unicode entry encoding are not known to be readable or writable by the Compressed Folders feature in Windows versions earlier than Windows 8." |
| 13:34.45 | karl_w_w | if i kill explorer while it is trying to write to disk will my world end? :P |
| 13:35.17 | Kalroth | haha |
| 13:35.37 | nevcairiel | it just might |
| 13:35.42 | Kalroth | nah you're fine, it probably will self destruct though |
| 13:37.06 | karl_w_w | oh that's new |
| 13:37.27 | karl_w_w | the button on task manager that normally says end task says restart for explorer |
| 13:38.12 | karl_w_w | and it didnt work |
| 13:38.35 | karl_w_w | good thing right click end task did |
| 13:38.41 | Kalroth | google for process explorer |
| 13:38.46 | karl_w_w | I have it |
| 13:38.50 | Kalroth | oh |
| 13:39.14 | karl_w_w | it bsod'd me once so I don't use it for actions anymore |
| 13:39.31 | Kalroth | did you use it to kill wininit processs |
| 13:39.50 | Workfoz | winlogon.exe |
| 13:40.11 | Kalroth | wininit is pretty bad to kill too |
| 13:40.24 | karl_w_w | nah |
| 13:40.28 | Workfoz | yeah both not nice |
| 13:40.31 | Workfoz | :D |
| 13:40.47 | nevcairiel | dont oyu have to try really really hard to even manage to kill them |
| 13:40.52 | Kalroth | yeah, you can't |
| 13:41.04 | nevcairiel | you might if you run your process killer as the SYSTEM user |
| 13:41.07 | Kalroth | both processes are super protected now, can't access them in any way |
| 13:42.52 | Kalroth | i wish i could kill system idle process its using almost all my CPU |
| 13:44.02 | karl_w_w | the request could not be performed because of an i/o device error |
| 13:44.19 | karl_w_w | quickly, buy me a new hard drive |
| 13:45.45 | Workfoz | ok |
| 13:46.07 | karl_w_w | process explorer offers me the option of killing system idle, maybe I should I try that :P |
| 13:46.15 | Workfoz | http://geizhals.de/crucial-mx100-256gb-ct256mx100ssd1-a1122681.html here, order now! |
| 13:46.27 | Workfoz | oh wait, you're in everything is twice as expensive land |
| 13:46.54 | karl_w_w | this is my storage hdd |
| 13:47.10 | karl_w_w | my ssd is happy |
| 13:47.23 | Workfoz | ssds are cheap now, use a big one as storage ~~ |
| 13:47.24 | Workfoz | :D |
| 13:48.03 | Workfoz | but yeah I guess http://geizhals.de/?cat=hde7s&xf=3772_3.5#xf_top :p |
| 13:48.22 | Workfoz | what does that shit cost you, karl_w_w? |
| 13:49.26 | karl_w_w | for a large ssd the absolute cheapest is a 500gb samsung 840 evo for $322 |
| 13:49.36 | Workfoz | nah I meant 3.5" SATA |
| 13:49.43 | Workfoz | is that AU$? |
| 13:49.48 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 13:49.51 | Workfoz | k |
| 13:50.01 | Ressy | Another good tool: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902.aspx |
| 13:50.01 | karl_w_w | whereas eg. a 1 tb wd black is $91 |
| 13:50.23 | Workfoz | wd black is not a storage drive |
| 13:50.24 | nevcairiel | $AU is pretty close to $USD though, close enough for our use-cases |
| 13:50.58 | karl_w_w | but it is an example :P |
| 13:51.22 | Workfoz | yeah, not too far off from our price |
| 13:51.39 | nevcairiel | wd black is a bad storage drive, over-priced and over-heating :p |
| 13:51.45 | Workfoz | but the 500 EVO is far from the best price |
| 13:52.22 | Workfoz | (there's both cheaper 500-ish ones and larger models that have even better $/GB) |
| 13:52.23 | karl_w_w | http://msy.com.au/Parts/PARTS.pdf |
| 13:52.33 | Workfoz | it's funny how different international markets are |
| 13:52.51 | Kalroth | wd green for storage! |
| 13:52.58 | Workfoz | ++ |
| 13:53.24 | airtonix | karl_w_w: why would you support a sweatshop? |
| 13:53.35 | Workfoz | gah that looks like one of those dingy computer shops nestled somewhere in town |
| 13:53.47 | airtonix | "one" |
| 13:53.51 | airtonix | how naive you are |
| 13:53.55 | Workfoz | ? |
| 13:53.56 | nevcairiel | i didnt know shops still produced unreadable pdf price lists |
| 13:54.01 | nevcairiel | that reminds me so of 10 years ago |
| 13:54.02 | Workfoz | nevcairiel: they do even here |
| 13:54.06 | airtonix | this is a franchise masqurading as a "one" |
| 13:54.07 | Workfoz | but yeah, you know what I'm referring to |
| 13:54.12 | Workfoz | airtonix: interesting |
| 13:54.12 | karl_w_w | msy is the god of cheap computer parts in australia |
| 13:54.20 | Workfoz | that's cheap? hm |
| 13:54.33 | nevcairiel | and they dont have a online shopping thing to go through? |
| 13:54.36 | Workfoz | well I guess we're spoiled with nice price comparison sites and a plethora of online shops to choose from |
| 13:54.40 | karl_w_w | they do |
| 13:54.42 | airtonix | not much cheaper than pccasegear |
| 13:54.46 | karl_w_w | the pdf is just more convenient |
| 13:54.57 | nevcairiel | your definition of convenient seems to be off |
| 13:55.01 | nevcairiel | or their website is horrible |
| 13:55.07 | airtonix | s/convenient/obvious/ |
| 13:55.08 | karl_w_w | because they are bargain basement and their website is horrible |
| 13:55.29 | karl_w_w | thankfully the quality of the website doesnt effect the product once I get it home |
| 13:55.48 | airtonix | as far as you know |
| 13:55.53 | Workfoz | reminds me of http://f16-computer.de/dlpdf.php nev |
| 13:56.24 | Workfoz | I can't figure out the name of the shop that exists in both Hamburg and Hannover |
| 13:56.28 | Workfoz | you'd probably know it if I mention it |
| 13:56.35 | airtonix | the guy at the store is getting paid like 2$ hour, you don't know it was the same guy who failed the website or that he emigrated here from the factory that made your shite |
| 13:56.50 | karl_w_w | our only real price comparison site is http://www.staticice.com.au/ and that's pretty horrible |
| 13:57.08 | airtonix | jokes on you karl_w_w, he sneezed into the packaging of your product |
| 13:57.08 | karl_w_w | I'd like to say we lost out when google axed shopping, but it was even worse |
| 13:57.24 | karl_w_w | oh no |
| 13:57.44 | Workfoz | that's... not very sophisticated |
| 14:00.12 | karl_w_w | it's also not worth using for me because msy is always the cheapest or within a handful of dollars, and they are just around the corner |
| 14:01.46 | karl_w_w | even though msy's store essentially consists of a queuing area in front of a stock room |
| 14:01.59 | karl_w_w | #straya |
| 14:17.24 | airtonix | imported camel spider impregnates you |
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| 14:27.05 | karl_w_w | why do I have 2 explorer.exe, one of which cannot be killed? |
| 14:27.24 | karl_w_w | I've got 99 problems |
| 14:27.34 | nevcairiel | its the one that crashed earlier |
| 14:27.45 | karl_w_w | I have restarted since then |
| 14:30.24 | karl_w_w | ok new restart, this time no trying to open the poisonous minidump |
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| 14:35.00 | karl_w_w | god i really dont want to go do a 4 year chkdsk |
| 14:36.37 | Workfoz | heh |
| 14:44.00 | airtonix | you got something else going on ? |
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| 14:44.33 | karl_w_w | yes I am watching na'vi vs va'vi |
| 14:44.47 | karl_w_w | the second one was a type, they are also na'vi |
| 14:45.02 | karl_w_w | the word type was a typo, I'm quitting now |
| 14:45.47 | Workfoz | na'vi us vs na'vi? |
| 14:45.48 | Workfoz | or what |
| 14:47.18 | karl_w_w | yeah, US vs original |
| 14:47.28 | Workfoz | I see |
| 14:47.33 | karl_w_w | but in game they are both just called Na'Vi which is fun |
| 14:48.15 | Workfoz | heh |
| 14:51.28 | Workfoz | time to go home, wheee |
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| 15:38.03 | airtonix | karl_w_w: apparently there was a thing in the city the other day |
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| 15:51.31 | karl_w_w | which one airtonix |
| 15:51.46 | airtonix | some guy |
| 15:51.52 | airtonix | clavell |
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| 16:29.49 | Shirik | soooooo |
| 16:29.52 | Shirik | I never turned off imessagfe |
| 16:29.55 | Shirik | I'm so screwed |
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| 16:36.51 | karl_w_w | what is that and why |
| 16:37.17 | TC-Work | iMessage? |
| 16:37.42 | TC-Work | it's the iPhone text messaging system iirc |
| 16:45.40 | nevcairiel | Shirik: i hear people have been sueing apple over that |
| 16:45.49 | Shirik | yeah |
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| 16:52.14 | Fisker- | Rise Shirik |
| 16:52.17 | Fisker- | you dumbass |
| 16:52.18 | Fisker- | :( |
| 16:58.34 | karl_w_w | people are suing apple over a texting app? |
| 16:58.48 | karl_w_w | is there anything apple does right? |
| 16:59.07 | karl_w_w | other than distribution, I guess |
| 16:59.21 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 16:59.31 | Stanzilla | they are using Windows in their hardware production |
| 17:00.13 | nevcairiel | karl_w_w: they are sueing them because when you switch from an iphone to another phone without explicitly disabling iMessage first, you won't receive messages anymore from other apple users |
| 17:00.29 | nevcairiel | since the iPhone transparently switches between SMS and iMessage automatically |
| 17:00.47 | nevcairiel | but they don't notice when you stop receiving iMessage due to no longer having an iPhone :P |
| 17:00.51 | karl_w_w | hahah |
| 17:01.00 | karl_w_w | I would praise them for that |
| 17:01.18 | karl_w_w | who wants to receive messages from iphone users? |
| 17:01.54 | nevcairiel | if a girl is sufficiently hot, i wont hold her phone choice against her yet, I can slowly work on converting her later :p |
| 17:02.04 | karl_w_w | :P |
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| 17:10.31 | TC-Work | Stanzilla: Not for long. |
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| 17:16.56 | Stanzilla | TC-Work: http://twitter.com/stevekovach/status/474938524211634176/photo/1 |
| 17:17.40 | TC-Work | Stanzilla: Does not invalidate what I said. |
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| 17:31.27 | Fisker- | conformist nevcairiel |
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| 18:15.55 | kd3 | hahaha wow: https://twitter.com/CIA/status/474971393852182528 |
| 18:16.37 | kd3 | 23k retweets in 27 min |
| 18:16.51 | cogwheel | lol |
| 18:18.51 | zenzelezz | I read that as "tweets" and thought "well that's impressive" |
| 18:19.10 | Seerah | haha |
| 18:36.20 | TC-Work | I'm wondering how the account was verified. |
| 18:36.40 | kd3 | the sent an NSL to twitter saying "verify us... or else" |
| 18:36.43 | kd3 | >.> |
| 18:39.08 | foxlit | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49368 << weak and amateur, Semlar. |
| 18:39.14 | Fisker- | No u |
| 18:40.07 | foxlit | (though points for not being Resike and suggesting utter nonsense) |
| 18:40.44 | Fisker- | Hi |
| 18:41.04 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure my first suggestion was right but he'll never be back to the thread |
| 18:41.33 | foxlit | well, it’s right in the sense that it’s what would make sense. |
| 18:41.44 | foxlit | it’s wrong because it won’t work given the rest of his code. |
| 18:42.30 | Semlar | well, it's essentially what he ended up posting here http://forums.riftgame.com/technical-discussions/addon-api-development/429051-need-help-datatables.html#post4813480 |
| 18:43.56 | Semlar | you can't make me go back into that lua file though |
| 18:44.40 | Fisker- | We have to go back marty |
| 18:44.49 | Semlar | no! |
| 18:45.03 | foxlit | why not? It has delicious local upvalues for everything. |
| 18:45.39 | Semlar | i did a search for SetData in the original addon and gave up trying to trace the data back to a table format |
| 18:46.05 | foxlit | which brings us back to “weak and amateur” :) |
| 18:46.07 | Semlar | the functions just lead to functions in other files |
| 18:46.15 | Semlar | laaaaaaame |
| 18:46.46 | Semlar | there's only so much abstraction i can take |
| 18:46.50 | foxlit | [a more successful approach would’ve been to look at what calls SetText/SetValue.] |
| 18:47.25 | TC-Work | And/Or murdering the OP. |
| 18:47.55 | foxlit | nah, TC-Work, we’d never get anywhere with that. |
| 18:48.03 | Semlar | it might make us feel better |
| 18:49.13 | foxlit | Besides, the OP is pretty much your garden-variety “oops I have some code and it doesn’t do what I want" |
| 18:49.14 | Semlar | this certainly has made me feel worse about not putting comments in my files though |
| 18:49.23 | foxlit | some of the responders, though… worse than uselesss. |
| 18:49.47 | TC-Work | Why would we get nowhere with that? I suspect people would stop after bodies started dropping. |
| 18:50.16 | foxlit | Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. |
| 18:50.52 | Unkle | Well shit, foxlit. Here I was with a big pile of stones, and now I have to wait for someone else to go first. |
| 18:51.06 | Semlar | stoner |
| 18:52.33 | Semlar | i've run out of shows to watch |
| 18:53.12 | Semlar | i might have to do something.. productive.. |
| 18:53.16 | foxlit | I know! |
| 18:53.19 | foxlit | Write an OPie plugin! |
| 18:53.27 | Semlar | :( |
| 18:53.34 | Jamash | foxlit: he said "productive" |
| 18:53.45 | foxlit | It’d be entertaining… for someone. |
| 18:53.53 | cogwheel | learn C++ and come work here <.< |
| 18:53.57 | foxlit | probably not Semlar, though. |
| 18:53.59 | Semlar | actually i thought about something you could do in opie |
| 18:54.14 | foxlit | mm? |
| 18:54.44 | Semlar | i have code to move nameplates around and i thought it could be interesting to have a pie that let you select a unit |
| 18:55.53 | Semlar | so like if they're all stacked on top of each other you could hold a key and get a radial menu of units and pick the one you want |
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| 18:56.15 | Semlar | not sure how viable it would be with a lot of frames though |
| 18:56.44 | foxlit | moving nameplates around wouldn’t be particularly relevant in this context. |
| 18:57.30 | Semlar | well, i'm not sure if the internals of opie would support it |
| 18:57.43 | TC-Work | cogwheel: You need more people making silly games? |
| 18:58.40 | foxlit | the internals of opie could support a World-bearing Turtle at this point. |
| 18:58.47 | Dagmar | foxlit++ |
| 18:59.13 | Semlar | i was thinking i could also just make a grid that the nameplates would spread out and lock to when your mouse moved near them |
| 18:59.23 | nevcairiel | foxlit: that bad? |
| 18:59.23 | cogwheel | TC-Work: yeap. And we've even got a non-silly one coming up soon :P |
| 18:59.52 | zenzelezz | lies |
| 19:00.06 | TC-Work | foxlit: there is no way opie could handle diskworld. |
| 19:00.15 | TC-Work | discworld* |
| 19:00.33 | cogwheel | discoworld* |
| 19:01.38 | Simca | Gilneas seems way more stable than Lost Isles; tempted to roll on it even though it's PvP |
| 19:01.57 | foxlit | nevcairiel: I think so, yes. You can basically put arbitrary addon-controlled actions in rings. |
| 19:03.41 | foxlit | There are custom macro conditionals. And it’s probably one release away from letting you do /cast [zone:Isle of Thunder,nomod] Kirin Tor Beacon; Hearthstone |
| 19:04.18 | nevcairiel | people have been asking me for custom conditions in bartender for a while, but i never even bothered to think about viability |
| 19:04.23 | Simca | out of combat, I assume? |
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| 19:07.31 | foxlit | Simca: well, sort of; it’s not sneaking stuff into the RE. |
| 19:08.06 | Dagmar | Like, [stripey] and [nostripey] |
| 19:08.07 | Simca | ah ok |
| 19:08.48 | Dagmar | Honestly, I don't see how the game has survived this long without a [marsupial] flag to use |
| 19:09.04 | Simca | yeah running spells with custom conditionals is the entire reason they made the protected environment what it is |
| 19:09.57 | foxlit | nevcairiel: it’s somewhat nasty, but it’s nasty that you can isolate and never look at in the future. I’ve basically got a version of SecureCmdOptionParse and RegisterStateDriver that you could call out to from RE and get the expected results. |
| 19:11.29 | Simca | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.28 | foxlit | [zone:Isle of Thunder] is unlikely to change in combat. |
| 19:12.31 | nevcairiel | one could argue that you d ont often change zone in combat, and compromise in simply caching that, but without knowing how it works.. |
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| 19:13.12 | nevcairiel | what other custom conditions do you support foxlit? |
| 19:13.38 | Shirik | today I found http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0833030477/ref=s9_simh_gw_p194_d12_i6?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=1MTE18F06V5DR1YADCYX&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200482&pf_rd_i=507846 |
| 19:13.39 | foxlit | [me:Name/Class] [known:spell ID] [spec:Arcane] |
| 19:13.41 | Shirik | the comments are epic |
| 19:15.24 | Simca | haha the 'sloppy' review |
| 19:15.26 | Simca | good stuff |
| 19:15.41 | Dagmar | Dunno. Bash itself does that kind of redirection |
| 19:15.43 | Dagmar | @#$@# |
| 19:15.54 | foxlit | Maybe [flag:X] (modified by /setflag X, /clearflag X) in the future. Not sure what’s particularly useful. |
| 19:22.38 | foxlit | I wish there was a castsequence-equivalent timer api in the RE. |
| 19:24.04 | foxlit | something like handle = GetTimer(resetInterval); timedOut = handle:CheckTimeoutAndRestart() |
| 19:24.38 | nevcairiel | i always thought there were basic timing functions, since the macro engine had them, but i never really had any use |
| 19:26.02 | foxlit | 3.0.8 explicitly purged everything time-related. |
| 19:28.37 | foxlit | (though I suppose my suggestion above is actually equivalent to adding GetTime(), which kind of defeats the point.) |
| 19:30.06 | Simca | C_Timer.After() in WoD will do exactly what you want |
| 19:30.29 | Simca | i've been using it in my macros on the alpha and it's super useful |
| 19:31.20 | foxlit | Simca: C_Timer.After() in WoD will do exactly what you want << that sounds extremely unlikely. What do you think I want? |
| 19:32.28 | Simca | a timer that does X callback every Y duration for Z intervals |
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| 19:32.48 | nevcairiel | you missed the RE condition |
| 19:33.14 | nevcairiel | also from what I remember in the code, isn't it only full seconds? |
| 19:33.37 | Simca | blizzard only uses as full seconds in their own code |
| 19:33.43 | Simca | but it seems accurate down to 0.0001 |
| 19:34.12 | Simca | at least it spammed the hell out of my screen and disconnected me at 0.0001 so i assume it was accurate |
| 19:36.29 | foxlit | So yeah, I don’t actually need a callback, but I do need time to be queriable form the RE. |
| 19:37.20 | Gnarfoz | I think they might be leery of you wanting anything for the RE |
| 19:37.21 | foxlit | Basically, the problem is this: when you press and release a button, I want the button to behave differently based on whether you’ve held it down for at least X seconds. |
| 19:37.22 | Gnarfoz | :> |
| 19:37.47 | nevcairiel | that seems like an interesting notion |
| 19:37.50 | Gnarfoz | especially you ^^ |
| 19:38.49 | foxlit | that’s not really a valid concern :) |
| 19:38.57 | Simca | the created timer has some properties and functions written to it if you choose to assign C_Timer.After/C_Timer.NewTicker to a variable |
| 19:39.25 | nevcairiel | the main problem remains, you don't get those timers in the RE |
| 19:39.37 | Gnarfoz | idd |
| 19:39.45 | Gnarfoz | it's R for a reason |
| 19:40.01 | Gnarfoz | (although foxlit's concept sounds interesting; but probably too easy to abuse for other things) |
| 19:40.09 | nevcairiel | not sure how much evil you could do with knowing the time, but i bet a lot :p |
| 19:40.39 | Gnarfoz | he broke the system just by rolling dice a lot, I bet he could come up with /something/ |
| 19:40.40 | Semlar | one button rotation? |
| 19:40.43 | Gnarfoz | idle hands and such |
| 19:40.44 | Gnarfoz | ;) |
| 19:40.54 | nevcairiel | they could offer a derived timer from the system tick count, so someone messing with the system time couldn't do evil things |
| 19:41.28 | nevcairiel | but there is still a whole load of other implications, i'm sure |
| 19:42.01 | foxlit | basically, this runs down to /cast* [on cooldown] Thing; Other Thing |
| 19:42.29 | nevcairiel | well they explicitly don't want that |
| 19:42.40 | nevcairiel | thats a smart combat decision |
| 19:42.42 | foxlit | and that’s why you can’t have arbitrary time. |
| 19:43.20 | nevcairiel | if it comes down to s imple timers, you could always use a resetting cast rotation |
| 19:43.57 | Simca | I'm pretty clueless on the subject but you can't use OnUpdate of a secure frame? maybe when created/manipulated through RunMacroText? |
| 19:44.06 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: he broke the system just by rolling dice a lot, I bet he could come up with /something/ << but more importantly, I don’t need stuff added to the RE to come up with something. |
| 19:44.17 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 19:44.18 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 19:44.21 | Semlar | Simca: you can't do secure things onupdate |
| 19:44.22 | nevcairiel | Simca: you cannot |
| 19:44.34 | Simca | I mean if you're somehow altering the conditions for a protected API (cast), then can't you create stuff inside RE with RunMacroText? |
| 19:45.01 | nevcairiel | you can't call these functions manually |
| 19:45.51 | nevcairiel | I can totally see how he could implement his custom conditions without any evil hacks, as long as he only refreshes the conditions out of combat on the assumption that they are pretty constant in combat |
| 19:49.05 | foxlit | Can’t really base serious addons around evil hacks, though. Fixing things would get tiresome. |
| 19:49.42 | foxlit | So it’d be nice to be able to do what /castsequence already does in addon code, but that might be impossible. |
| 19:50.42 | foxlit | It’s a similar problem with /castrandom as well; those slash commands cheat by using more secure code than is available to addons :( |
| 19:51.14 | nevcairiel | castrandom should be possible to implement |
| 19:51.27 | nevcairiel | even if you have to come up with your own crappy pseudo-random generator :P |
| 19:51.36 | foxlit | there’s a rng in RE. |
| 19:52.00 | foxlit | the problem is, what you’d be implementing is the old castrandom, not the new one. The new one doesn’t advance until you’ve successfully cast whatever it selected. |
| 19:52.07 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 19:52.13 | Gnarfoz | I hope Carbine's stance of everyone getting the same set of toys to play with works out - their addons have just the same powers as user's |
| 19:52.15 | nevcairiel | never used the thing |
| 19:53.10 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: well its a way to avoid a taint system, but it may easily bite them in the ass later on |
| 19:53.43 | Gnarfoz | sure, I'd bet my ass they'll have to do many "meh, gotta remove/change this" patches down the line |
| 19:57.35 | foxlit | nevcairiel: what custom conditionals do people actually want, anyhow? |
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| 20:01.23 | Unkle | They want "I WIN" |
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| 20:05.09 | Esamynn|work | more accurately, they want "I WIN", but they don't want anyone on the other side to have it |
| 20:05.20 | foxlit | I think that’s a very non-productive way of looking at it |
| 20:05.36 | Unkle | Or, rather anyone else to have it at all. |
| 20:05.46 | Esamynn|work | very likely |
| 20:06.02 | Esamynn|work | foxlit: yes, this you are also correct |
| 20:07.18 | foxlit | [zone] was essentially a user suggestion; “hey guys how do I cast whichever talent I have in this tier” is a frequently recurring forum question. Not everything is “I WIN” |
| 20:09.13 | Esamynn|work | that one strikes me as reasonable request |
| 20:11.03 | Esamynn|work | especially since I think I saw spec specific talents in WoD |
| 20:18.30 | Simca | yep |
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| 20:25.56 | foxlit | Maybe something like [town] or [resting] would also make sense. Show trade skills rather than combat skills on action bars and so on. |
| 20:26.46 | Stanzilla | the talent stuff already exists in many addons |
| 20:26.57 | Stanzilla | but some people still use macros for that |
| 20:29.08 | Gnarfoz | if the talent skills didn't sometimes replace base skills |
| 20:29.18 | Gnarfoz | they could make all of them be alternatives to each other |
| 20:29.28 | Gnarfoz | the kind that automatically act appropriately when called by the wrong name |
| 20:29.42 | Gnarfoz | i.e. /cast Hammer of Justice when you have Fist of Justice specced will work |
| 20:29.52 | Gnarfoz | (and the other way around, IIRC) |
| 20:30.06 | Simca | they probably did |
| 20:30.12 | Esamynn|work | that sounds like a good thing to do regardless |
| 20:30.24 | Gnarfoz | well, can't have a three-way relation there |
| 20:30.34 | Simca | going to the talent page without a spec just throws lua errors atm |
| 20:30.43 | Simca | so not sure how they're going to handle unspecced tooltips |
| 20:30.48 | Gnarfoz | everything throws lua errors right now :D |
| 20:30.51 | Simca | when you have to show 3 skills in one slot |
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| 20:31.02 | Simca | probably just hide the whole talent UI |
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| 20:43.41 | Simca | GetCVar("realmList") is deprecated in post-6.0 installs, now handled by BNet App exclusively |
| 20:43.49 | Simca | that's gonna make a lot of authors who use that CVar happy |
| 20:44.10 | Simca | breaks Ace3 even |
| 20:44.16 | Gnarfoz | deprecated does not mean removed |
| 20:44.35 | Simca | if you install before MoP it will remain set |
| 20:44.37 | Gnarfoz | but it will at some point, so ugghh |
| 20:44.47 | Simca | if you install in WoD, it isn't there at all, you will get nil |
| 20:44.59 | foxlit | excellent, now people will /have/ to update :P |
| 20:45.02 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I guess that's to be expected |
| 20:45.39 | foxlit | though, hm, might be worth patching that beforehand. qq. |
| 20:46.18 | foxlit | [for… reasons?.. I use the realmlist in character IDs for profiles. Mismatch all the things!] |
| 20:46.20 | Simca | if you were only using it to determine between US/EU/KR/TW/CN/public-test, then the "portal" CVar still apparently works |
| 20:46.43 | Simca | but i think realmList had more detail than that |
| 20:47.22 | foxlit | maybe GetRealmName should also return the continent. |
| 20:47.34 | Simca | that would help a ton if it did |
| 20:48.25 | Gnarfoz | Korea, Taiwan and China will be delighted to hear they've been bumped up to continent status |
| 20:48.43 | Simca | China is basically a continent already |
| 20:49.03 | zenzelezz | how so? |
| 20:49.08 | Gnarfoz | because she just said so |
| 20:49.15 | Semlar | continents are pretty loosely defined as it is |
| 20:49.17 | Gnarfoz | just like foxlit said so before! :D |
| 20:49.19 | Simca | i just meant it's huge |
| 20:49.31 | Gnarfoz | that's not how continents are defined, tho |
| 20:49.32 | zenzelezz | aha |
| 20:49.40 | Gnarfoz | "it's huge, let's make it a continent" :D |
| 20:49.40 | Simca | yeah |
| 20:49.52 | Simca | pssh |
| 20:49.59 | Gnarfoz | I have a continent here, let me show you it |
| 20:50.03 | Gnarfoz | ... >_> |
| 20:50.09 | Simca | ... |
| 20:50.12 | Gnarfoz | <_< |
| 20:50.41 | Simca | there's probably some chinese scientists working on splitting the techonic plates around their borders so they can be their own continent >.> |
| 20:50.47 | Gnarfoz | haha |
| 20:50.57 | Simca | tectonic* |
| 20:51.58 | Gnarfoz | reminds me of a ds9 holodeck episode |
| 20:52.32 | kd3 | snrk. "Wrath of Gronn" |
| 20:52.33 | Gnarfoz | evil ben sisko is going to kill EVERYONE :D |
| 20:52.55 | Gnarfoz | kd3: idgi :| |
| 20:53.23 | kd3 | "Wrath of Khan", the second star trek movie |
| 20:53.25 | Gnarfoz | gah |
| 20:53.28 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
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| 20:55.15 | zenzelezz | idgi? |
| 20:55.50 | Gnarfoz | I don't get it |
| 20:57.33 | zenzelezz | ah |
| 20:59.11 | nevcairiel | foxlit: i dunno, i guess spec was a somewhat common request for action bars, and maybe zone occasionally |
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| 21:26.59 | Simca | part of the C_Timer stuff is in FrameXML and some of the dev comments are funny |
| 21:27.06 | Simca | local TickerMetatable = { |
| 21:27.06 | Simca | __index = TickerPrototype, |
| 21:27.06 | Simca | __metatable = true,--Probably not needed, but if I don't put this here someone is going to mess with this metatable and end up tainting everything... |
| 21:27.06 | Simca | }; |
| 21:28.37 | zenzelezz | I'm sad to say I've made similar comments in my code |
| 21:29.14 | foxlit | why would you just assume that people will mess with your metatables? |
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| 21:36.40 | TC-Work | Or put a comment in say "Don't fuck with my metatable or I will cut you." |
| 21:38.00 | TC-Work | s/say/saying/ |
| 21:38.09 | zenzelezz | "Don't mess with my metatable or I will mess up your metabolism" |
| 21:38.31 | TC-Work | ... |
| 21:38.34 | TC-Work | I hate you so much. |
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| 21:49.02 | zenzelezz | judging by the amount of laughter your response gave me, I must be past inebriated |
| 21:49.11 | zenzelezz | and my friend Morgan is too \o/ |
| 21:52.37 | Esamynn|work | foxlit: experience... long, hard experience |
| 21:53.12 | foxlit | Esamynn|work: meh, more like confirmation bias. |
| 21:54.33 | nevcairiel | some people frequently hook up the frames metatables, i'm sure someone would've done it .p |
| 21:54.49 | foxlit | For example, do people mess with the current widget metatables, causing massive taint issues? |
| 21:55.06 | nevcairiel | they do mess with it, not sure how much taint it causes |
| 21:56.52 | foxlit | oh? who where whyyyyyy? |
| 22:01.30 | foxlit | Then again, someone thought that it’s a good idea to replace make th Cancel button on InterfaceOptionsFrame behave equivalently to Okay. |
| 22:03.30 | TC-Work | zenzelezz: That and you like causing me mental anguish. |
| 22:07.26 | zenzelezz | TC-Work: won't lie, there's truth in that |
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| 22:28.37 | Primer | wtf...void shift really needs to be "atomic" |
| 22:28.48 | Primer | can't void shift and have both people die |
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| 22:38.53 | Shirik | today someone asked me to review a set of requirements that had already been reviewed by a team of engineers |
| 22:38.56 | Shirik | just for a sanity check |
| 22:39.05 | Shirik | the requirements violated the laws of physics |
| 22:39.10 | Shirik | and somehow nobody caught it |
| 22:39.29 | Shirik | it asked for latency requirements with communication with a satellite that exceeded the speed of light |
| 22:39.40 | Shirik | I wanted to punch someone |
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| 22:43.51 | Shirik | Cairenn: http://news.goruck.com/gear-explained/monster-in-the-bullets/ |
| 22:44.54 | Esamynn|work | Shirik: what, you mean you guys haven't figured out how to communicate faster than the speed of light yet? |
| 22:45.01 | Esamynn|work | foolish mortals |
| 22:45.08 | Shirik | I know we haven't gotten those quantum computers up and running yet :( |
| 22:45.34 | fewyn | time to throw more money at CIG |
| 22:45.35 | fewyn | https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/13926-Introducing-The-Freelancer-Line-Up |
| 22:46.15 | Cairenn | cute puppy! |
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| 22:48.29 | nevcairiel | fewyn: evil them and limited time upgrades, guess i should update my freelancer to the MIS variant |
| 22:48.40 | fewyn | i don't think i'm going to do MIS |
| 22:48.44 | fewyn | i think i'm going for DUR |
| 22:49.06 | fewyn | http://uplol.fewyn.net/2014-06-06_18-39-52.png |
| 22:49.16 | fewyn | comparison from the brochure |
| 22:49.38 | Primer | what game is that? |
| 22:49.43 | fewyn | star citizern |
| 22:49.45 | fewyn | 0r |
| 22:49.46 | fewyn | -r |
| 22:49.54 | Primer | sta citizern? |
| 22:50.01 | fewyn | =p |
| 22:50.03 | Primer | trollolololo |
| 22:50.23 | nevcairiel | i guess making it a primary exploration ship is also an idea |
| 22:50.41 | fewyn | i kind of want a max just for the sweet sweet model |
| 22:50.55 | Primer | I can't wait til SC is a real game |
| 22:51.03 | Primer | been following its development |
| 22:51.05 | fewyn | it is a real game now |
| 22:51.13 | fewyn | you can fly ships and blow other ships up |
| 22:51.13 | Primer | not really |
| 22:52.22 | fewyn | nevcairiel: the TNGS finalists are also in the hangar atm |
| 22:54.12 | TC-Work | Does it come with LTI? |
| 22:54.39 | nevcairiel | if your original freelancer had LTI you can upgrade it, if you dont have the base model yet, no new LTI |
| 22:55.35 | nevcairiel | they stopped handing out LTI last year |
| 22:58.52 | nevcairiel | meh a 2gb patch, so much for quickly poking in |
| 22:59.51 | fewyn | yeah it has all the variants plus the TNGS ships |
| 23:04.53 | TC-Work | Don't think I own the freelancer. |
| 23:05.30 | fewyn | freelancer is best ship |
| 23:05.42 | TC-Work | I have a Constellation |
| 23:06.27 | nevcairiel | different classes of ships entirely, though |
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| 23:13.16 | TC-Work | Well since the DUR version is going to be there in perpetuity I am not bothered. |
| 23:13.48 | Primer | what about the HUR version? |
| 23:14.04 | TC-Work | ~lart Primer |
| 23:14.04 | purl | puts Primer through a wood chipper |
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| 23:30.39 | Gethe | Torhal: we're getting merged with Staghelm |
| 23:30.53 | Torhal | Torhal: WAT |
| 23:31.10 | Gethe | just went up http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/11393305/connected-realms-update-66-6-6-2014 |
| 23:31.38 | Torhal | Oh, connected. |
| 23:31.45 | Torhal | I thought you meant one of the two was going away. |
| 23:32.09 | nevcairiel | they refrain from actual merges for now because people dont like those |
| 23:32.11 | Gethe | meh |
| 23:32.54 | Torhal | Might be a good thing. Azuremyst has been a bit sparse. |
| 23:33.24 | Gethe | looking at Staghelm, they are in much the same state |
| 23:33.43 | nevcairiel | together you'll be strong! |
| 23:33.56 | nevcairiel | but yes, they merge similar realms together, thats their strategy |
| 23:34.07 | nevcairiel | (or well, connect them, whatever) |
| 23:34.54 | Gethe | one can hope |
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