| 00:00.32 | jleclanche | Gnarfoz: "ding" |
| 00:00.39 | Gnarfoz | that was wow crashing |
| 00:00.39 | jleclanche | i can hear the damn error |
| 00:00.40 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 00:01.03 | jleclanche | i can even picture the backtrace |
| 00:01.07 | Gnarfoz | hmm, all red |
| 00:01.13 | jleclanche | off to bed, enjoy that |
| 00:01.27 | Gnarfoz | yeah I should go sometime soon-ish, too, maybe an hour |
| 00:01.28 | jleclanche | yeah no addons in alpha Gnarfoz |
| 00:01.40 | Gnarfoz | so they just marked them all as insecure? no fair! |
| 00:01.47 | Gnarfoz | well they're always insecure, derp |
| 00:01.50 | Gnarfoz | but, you know what I mean |
| 00:02.17 | kd3 | glad I still have this page: http://wowpedia.org/User:Kaydeethree/Macros |
| 00:02.23 | jleclanche | you know what, I wanna paste CR's words from this morning, seems relevant |
| 00:02.38 | jleclanche | So I encourage you all to have patience and if there is something that you like or don’t like, voice your opinion on the forums. I can’t promise we will act on every comment but like all things with Star Citizen we actively listen to the community’s feedback, both positive and negative, and then act on the issues that resonate with us. You just don’t get this opportunity in the traditional publisher model when a Beta release is really a pre- |
| 00:02.38 | jleclanche | release marketing ploy! |
| 00:02.45 | Gnarfoz | kd3: tell that is what I think it is |
| 00:03.04 | Gnarfoz | ah /sadface |
| 00:03.11 | Gnarfoz | I thought that was cogwheels "addons via macros" thing |
| 00:03.12 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 00:08.52 | kd3 | oh blah, they disabled /run again? |
| 00:10.14 | Gnarfoz | haha |
| 00:10.27 | Gnarfoz | yeah, does nothing |
| 00:10.31 | Gnarfoz | /dump works |
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| 00:30.35 | Arrowmaster | jleclanche: im finally getting to watch last nights fargo |
| 00:53.21 | airtonix | Wobin: Shirik: http://hn.premii.com/#/article/7849213/swift-is-not |
| 00:53.49 | Primer | also digging how the mouseover character gets an outline too |
| 00:54.01 | Primer | I wonder if focus gets an outline |
| 00:54.04 | airtonix | als jleclanche https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRpDn5qPp3s |
| 00:54.04 | Primer | Gnarfoz: please test that |
| 00:54.24 | Gnarfoz | Primer: focus? |
| 00:54.44 | airtonix | jleclanche: talking about star citiczen > exploratory space sims > others |
| 00:55.07 | Gnarfoz | Primer: when I mouse over the focus unit frame, the unit gets an outline |
| 00:55.10 | Gnarfoz | not sure if that's what you meant |
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| 00:56.32 | Primer | no |
| 00:56.46 | Primer | note that your target keeps an outline |
| 00:56.47 | airtonix | Gnarfoz: your ui is bad. |
| 00:56.56 | Gnarfoz | airtonix: yes, yes it is |
| 00:56.57 | Primer | and your mouseovers gain an outline while moused over |
| 00:57.06 | Gnarfoz | Primer: yeah, depending on the setting I pick |
| 00:57.08 | Primer | I was wondering if you put a unit on focus, if it retains an outline |
| 00:57.13 | airtonix | i'm glad we're on the same page |
| 00:57.17 | Gnarfoz | and there's only quest+target, "Variation 1", "Variation 2", and "off" |
| 00:57.22 | Gnarfoz | Primer: nope, doesn't |
| 00:57.28 | Primer | Gnarfoz: that's unfortunate |
| 00:57.38 | Gnarfoz | that's fixable, too :D |
| 01:00.17 | Semlar | not quite as subtle as my focus targets http://i.imgur.com/glCv3Sc.jpg |
| 01:01.29 | Shirik | airtonix: no surprise here |
| 01:02.21 | airtonix | Shirik: i guess it's hard to get excited about a presentation from a old man with grey hair |
| 01:03.20 | Primer | Semlar: Did you ever release that? |
| 01:03.47 | Primer | Semlar: What about the "nameplates neatly stacked in the corner" one? |
| 01:03.48 | MiRai | I was just going to ask that |
| 01:03.51 | MiRai | beause it looks sexy |
| 01:04.09 | MiRai | because* |
| 01:04.40 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/ho2LxdQ.gif |
| 01:04.51 | Semlar | nah but you can use it if you want |
| 01:04.59 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:05.21 | MiRai | Very cool, thanks. |
| 01:06.03 | Semlar | i've been busy with work so i haven't had time to do much of anything |
| 01:06.18 | Primer | And it's fully functional? |
| 01:06.28 | Semlar | well i use it |
| 01:06.29 | Primer | Does it support shit like cast bars and dot timers? |
| 01:06.44 | Semlar | not the stacky one |
| 01:06.53 | Semlar | just the normal nameplates |
| 01:07.00 | pompy | http://www.cnet.com/news/sprint-t-mobile-reportedly-near-accord-on-merger-terms/ :O |
| 01:07.12 | Primer | well, wasn't there discussion about tidyplates implementing those parts? |
| 01:07.29 | Primer | where all you did was move the plates, then let tidyplates do the rest? |
| 01:07.37 | Primer | as in skin, castbar, dots, etc.? |
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| 01:08.59 | Semlar | well, the biggest issue with it was that it pretty much required you to only display enemy nameplates to work properly since they made it so you couldn't toggle them in combat |
| 01:09.39 | Semlar | and that interfered with my setup because i like being able to see friendly names |
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| 01:11.03 | Primer | I'm OK with only seeing enemy |
| 01:11.04 | Semlar | someone could take the basic idea and make it into a nameplate addon but i don't really have time for it right now |
| 01:11.19 | Semlar | it's certainly doable |
| 01:11.20 | Arrowmaster | jleclanche: dat ending, so intense and not at all what i was expecting |
| 01:11.38 | Primer | The only time I ever toggle friendly nameplates on is when I'm doing celestials on my healer and they didn't invite me |
| 01:12.05 | Primer | I'd just rather use raid frames for friendlies in raids or RBGs |
| 01:12.13 | Semlar | it makes it a lot easier to see what people are doing when i'm recording |
| 01:12.26 | Semlar | or see where someone is while i'm raiding |
| 01:12.32 | Torhal | TIL: Semlar is a tool of the NSA. |
| 01:12.38 | Semlar | aw |
| 01:12.44 | Semlar | you got me |
| 01:12.48 | Primer | Semlar: I use an arrow addon for that |
| 01:13.11 | Primer | which I myself wrote! |
| 01:13.19 | Primer | PitBull4_Arrow |
| 01:13.39 | Primer | I just feel that friendly nameplates add too much clutter |
| 01:13.52 | Primer | besides, if they're not in range, you don't now where they are otherwise |
| 01:14.05 | Primer | the arrow works for the entire floor of the raid, or entire bg |
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| 01:15.17 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:17.00 | Primer | nice |
| 01:17.16 | Primer | link the code for that one too, please |
| 01:17.37 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: have you been unmarking my addons as mature again? |
| 01:18.04 | Torhal | If I did it was at least six months ago. Been awhile since I did an audit. |
| 01:18.19 | Arrowmaster | i got a notification about trainwhistle |
| 01:18.21 | Torhal | So glad I won't have to do that anymore. |
| 01:18.27 | Arrowmaster | you wont? |
| 01:18.40 | Torhal | Nope. New CurseForge won't have a notion. |
| 01:19.09 | Thunder_Child | And here I thought you were going to pass it off to a newbie. |
| 01:19.10 | Arrowmaster | new curseforge? what about new curse? |
| 01:19.27 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: kerbal.curseforge.com is on the new stack. |
| 01:19.34 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: take over trainwhistle for me |
| 01:19.37 | Torhal | New Curse will be after. |
| 01:19.39 | Semlar | Primer: same addon i linked earlier |
| 01:20.53 | Wobin | Torhal: we getting WS repos? |
| 01:20.55 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.29 | Torhal | Wobin: Soon (™) |
| 01:21.54 | Shirik | http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2014/05/14/ladies-and-gentlemen-i-give-you-the-brand-new-apple-ibeats-headset/ |
| 01:21.57 | Torhal | CRAFT_NAME and CRAFT_TEXT are the best, Semlar. |
| 01:22.11 | Semlar | PLACEHOLDER BESTHOLDER |
| 01:22.36 | Semlar | it's going to be a button you can press to craft the next item on the list |
| 01:22.52 | Torhal | Placeholder crafting FTW! |
| 01:23.13 | Primer | Semlar: it has the focus thing too? |
| 01:23.25 | Semlar | yeah if you /focus something it puts giant crosshairs on it |
| 01:25.42 | Semlar | it makes it really obvious when i don't have a tank focused for MD |
| 01:26.43 | Semlar | although if you focus an npc it can be a little tricky for the addon to keep track of |
| 01:26.52 | Semlar | since the nameplates get recycled |
| 01:27.26 | Semlar | it has to match the guid again |
| 01:27.57 | Primer | cool |
| 01:28.01 | Primer | can't wait to try it out |
| 01:28.10 | Primer | but my damn co-worker wants to have a meeting now |
| 01:29.25 | Semlar | jerk |
| 01:29.46 | Semlar | did you tell him you had more important things to do |
| 01:33.57 | pompy | stupid weather delaying things! http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/tdm/ldsd/#.U4_ILShe6Um |
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| 01:43.58 | airtonix | please Torhal |
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| 02:03.51 | inomena | Is it possible to symlink addons from a different directory? |
| 02:04.44 | Stanzilla | yes |
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| 02:10.42 | inomena | awesomesauce |
| 02:10.43 | Torhal | airtonix: ? |
| 02:10.51 | airtonix | thankyou |
| 02:10.53 | inomena | now, for the bigger question, can I symlink embeds just the same way? |
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| 02:14.09 | plaw | heh https://twitter.com/AlexDRobertson/status/474307800542482433 |
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| 02:19.04 | airtonix | Torhal: how would you secure enough funding for Nasa to get americans to mars? |
| 02:20.46 | airtonix | considering getting to the moon was all about proving to the ussr that the americans could put a rocket powered device down anywhere on the planet. |
| 02:21.58 | Torhal | airtonix: I think you're drunk. |
| 02:22.13 | airtonix | Torhal: why would you say that? |
| 02:22.39 | Torhal | Stuff. And things. |
| 02:22.54 | airtonix | intresting points you raise |
| 02:23.19 | airtonix | however, i will counter with words etc. |
| 02:23.28 | Torhal | Drat. |
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| 02:28.58 | Wobin | plaw: amazing |
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| 02:57.46 | pompy | http://houston.cbslocal.com/2014/06/02/sonic-drive-in-robbed-same-day-company-asks-customers-to-not-bring-guns-into-restaurants/ dafuq |
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| 03:03.16 | A-KO | pompy: wow, that's not a difficult thing to have happen..considering there's probably dozens of robberies/day at fast food chains |
| 03:03.18 | A-KO | all over the country |
| 03:03.37 | A-KO | what a lame article |
| 03:03.38 | A-KO | :P |
| 03:04.09 | A-KO | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:04.25 | A-KO | what a tiny tidbit they don't include |
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| 03:05.08 | A-KO | 3500 restaurants, one was robbed without weapons--and somehow we're supposed to make a conclusion that the corporate owner's request to people not to carry weapons on their premises is somehow a problem... |
| 03:05.45 | A-KO | At least they included that much info into the article, but most people are stupid and won't read that much. |
| 03:05.53 | A-KO | So it's a good influential piece |
| 03:05.54 | Torhal | airtonix: People read? |
| 03:06.00 | Torhal | A-KO: ^ |
| 03:06.03 | A-KO | indeed |
| 03:06.10 | airtonix | yes Torhal |
| 03:06.15 | airtonix | words etc |
| 03:06.16 | Torhal | knows airtonix doesn't read. He infers meaning from the cosmos. |
| 03:06.19 | A-KO | lol |
| 03:06.48 | airtonix | when you reach my level of transcendence, you'll understand |
| 03:07.20 | Torhal | backs away from L. Ron. |
| 03:08.15 | airtonix | All those moments will be lost... in time... like tears... in the rain. Time to die |
| 03:13.54 | Gethe_ | this alpha has a distinct lack of addons |
| 03:14.08 | airtonix | only cheaters use addons |
| 03:14.17 | Gethe | oops |
| 03:14.25 | airtonix | your pink hello kitty action bar gives an unfair advantage |
| 03:15.10 | Gethe | good thing i have the purple hello kitty action bar |
| 03:15.20 | Thunder_Child | and you can blame art3mis for that |
| 03:15.56 | Gethe | i blame tekkub |
| 03:16.27 | Gethe | and semlar... for reasons |
| 03:16.46 | Semlar | :( |
| 03:17.05 | airtonix | Gethe: commas save lives. |
| 03:17.33 | Gethe | psh, they haven't saved mine! |
| 03:17.48 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 03:22.50 | inomena | hrm, best way of checking if a spell has a cooldown (not an active one but a potential one), parsing tooltip? |
| 03:29.37 | Semlar | probably |
| 03:29.38 | Torhal | airtonix: Oxford comma, or GTFO. |
| 03:29.44 | Semlar | you can only get the base cooldown through the api as far as i know |
| 03:30.15 | airtonix | Torhal: #.# |
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| 03:32.37 | Jamash | how's up? |
| 03:37.16 | inomena | base cooldown as in global cooldown? |
| 03:37.47 | Semlar | no the unmodified cooldown of the spell |
| 03:38.09 | Semlar | GetSpellBaseCooldown or something |
| 03:38.28 | inomena | Ah, that is good enough |
| 03:38.47 | inomena | I just want something to differentiate an instant spell with a spell that has a cooldown |
| 03:38.48 | Semlar | it won't change for talents and stuff |
| 03:38.53 | inomena | Gotcah |
| 03:43.43 | Semlar | if you need to check after it's gone on cooldown you can use more reliable functions |
| 03:47.02 | inomena | GetSpellCooldown :) |
| 03:47.50 | inomena | Sadly there is no GetItemBaseCooldown equivalent |
| 03:48.58 | Semlar | you can get the spell for an item but i don't know if that'll have a cooldown |
| 03:51.28 | pompy | http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/04/world/americas/canada-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 jeez. |
| 03:54.51 | Simca__ | as with most spell-related details: rip the info from the dbcs, put it in a lua file |
| 03:57.04 | Semlar | probably overkill for just checking if something has a cooldown |
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| 04:08.19 | airtonix | nothing is overkill |
| 04:17.19 | Thunder_Child | I feel like player houses in mmo's are more pointless than screen doors on submarines. |
| 04:18.56 | airtonix | Thunder_Child: have you played minecraft? |
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| 04:31.59 | Simca__ | figures that GetItemInfo, arguably one of the most important functions, is broken in alpha, qq |
| 04:38.02 | Semlar | broken how |
| 04:39.18 | Simca__ | it only returns nothing |
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| 04:39.39 | Simca__ | no matter what ID, itemstring, or item link you give it |
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| 04:44.46 | Wobin | Thunder_Child: It provides a place for me to sit and code and gain rest xp |
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| 04:48.12 | pompy | https://www.amazon.com/oc/launchevent seriously, what now?! lol. |
| 04:49.29 | pompy | and that video is full of trolling! |
| 04:52.38 | airtonix | old |
| 04:53.10 | pompy | ahh lol https://www.yahoo.com/tech/amazon-3d-phone-looks-set-for-june-18-launch-87825183354.html |
| 04:55.54 | airtonix | so pompy: https://twitter.com/AlexDRobertson/status/474307800542482433 ^ plaw |
| 05:06.07 | Wobin | pompy: https://twitter.com/AlexDRobertson/status/474307800542482433 |
| 05:06.14 | Wobin | er yeah |
| 05:06.19 | Wobin | what airtonix said =P |
| 05:10.14 | airtonix | no wobin. what I said. |
| 05:10.34 | pompy | ~lart airtonix |
| 05:10.34 | purl | shoots airtonix in his sleep |
| 05:10.43 | Wobin | what you said plaw said |
| 05:10.44 | airtonix | you can't even |
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| 05:32.44 | airtonix | http://i.imgur.com/dY3eXfR.gif |
| 05:35.11 | Thunder_Child | airtonix: yes |
| 05:35.22 | Thunder_Child | Wobin: So does an inn or whatever. |
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| 05:36.19 | airtonix | ok |
| 05:43.23 | Wobin | Thunder_Child: Too public and noisy |
| 05:43.39 | Wobin | with people erpging in the rooms above |
| 05:56.32 | kd3 | part 1/6 of frostfire is up: http://wowpedia.org/Frostfire_Ridge_storyline#Foothold_in_a_Savage_Land |
| 05:56.52 | kd3 | pretty pictures when I wake up. blah at having to resort to .tgas |
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| 06:17.23 | Primer | Semlar: so these plates...they're not working |
| 06:18.46 | Primer | I mean, they're not doing what I expected |
| 06:22.30 | Primer | seems they don't work for enemy players at all... |
| 06:22.53 | zenzio | /dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root 126435140 120013852 0 100% / |
| 06:23.04 | zenzio | not quite what I hoped to see first thing in the morning |
| 06:23.30 | karl_w_w | new xmen is great, glad I went to see that instead of godzilla |
| 06:29.59 | karl_w_w | http://delimiter.com.au/2014/06/05/desktop-disaster-bad-vic-police-byo/ 'straya |
| 06:34.23 | airtonix | you have been banned for /r/bendigo/ |
| 06:34.26 | airtonix | from* |
| 06:36.22 | karl_w_w | woops |
| 06:40.32 | airtonix | http://www.yelp.com.au/biz/vickis-barbecue-and-shrimp-detroit |
| 06:41.08 | airtonix | oh it's wickus, not Vickis |
| 06:41.11 | airtonix | :< |
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| 06:47.11 | Primer | You aren't in a party |
| 06:47.21 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 06:47.22 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:47.26 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:47.33 | bluspacecow | are you ronery ? |
| 06:47.35 | Primer | really would like to know what addon is spamming that |
| 06:47.44 | bluspacecow | or do you have an addon trying to write to a non existant channel ? |
| 06:51.27 | Primer | seems that's what I have |
| 06:51.41 | Primer | is there any easy way to figure that out OTHER than the "half your addons" method? |
| 06:52.25 | bluspacecow | mmmmm |
| 06:52.28 | bluspacecow | ahhhhh |
| 06:52.32 | bluspacecow | *thinks hard* |
| 06:52.38 | bluspacecow | *smoke starts coming out* |
| 06:52.40 | bluspacecow | *dies* |
| 06:52.51 | bluspacecow | GURUMEDITATIONERROR |
| 06:53.28 | bluspacecow | I would run the LogGoblin and see if it’s picked up anything in its logs |
| 06:53.31 | bluspacecow | i doubt it tho |
| 06:54.16 | airtonix | bluspacecow: doing it wrong. |
| 06:54.24 | bluspacecow | no |
| 06:54.28 | bluspacecow | this is doing it wrong : http://i.imgur.com/PomGBz8.jpg |
| 06:54.51 | karl_w_w | still better than real Apple |
| 06:55.37 | airtonix | 1min into a 30min episode you're supposed interupt a highly charged battle initiation scene to spend 25 mins remembering some tragic encounter with an onion when you were a child. |
| 06:55.54 | bluspacecow | ooooo |
| 06:55.58 | bluspacecow | is that that Titans one |
| 06:56.07 | bluspacecow | Fairy Tail did that with a picnic scene with Erza |
| 06:56.09 | bluspacecow | was weird |
| 06:56.48 | airtonix | office full of macbook pros. that's me. karl_w_w |
| 06:57.03 | karl_w_w | Primer, you could just guess what addons do things that require a party :P |
| 06:57.18 | airtonix | karl_w_w: get outta here with your logic |
| 06:57.32 | Primer | karl_w_w: old ones? |
| 07:01.26 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: havent watched fargo yet |
| 07:01.28 | karl_w_w | who knows |
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| 07:03.02 | Simca__ | bluspacecow use your magic powers to fix GetItemInfo |
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| 07:14.41 | bluspacecow | @Simca how’s it broken ? maybe someone here could come up with a /dump hook fix |
| 07:17.31 | Simca__ | it does nothing |
| 07:17.47 | kd3 | in beta? ./run is disabled |
| 07:17.54 | Simca__ | who needs /run |
| 07:17.55 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 07:18.10 | karl_w_w | needs /run |
| 07:18.13 | Simca__ | daisy-chain loadstrings together in /dump commands |
| 07:18.27 | Simca__ | loaded a couple of addons like that |
| 07:18.43 | bluspacecow | ha ha that reminds of that addon system cogwheel come up with that worked like that |
| 07:18.53 | bluspacecow | not sure if if it was coggie tho |
| 07:19.23 | nevcairiel | they dont want you to use addons, why is everyone always trying to cheat their way around that |
| 07:19.51 | bluspacecow | *shrug* for the lolz ? |
| 07:20.03 | bluspacecow | its early days for el pa so not really needed yet |
| 07:20.10 | Simca__ | I don't care about the UI, I care about mining data and they're blocking that by proxy of having to block UI modifications |
| 07:20.42 | nevcairiel | all they will do is remember to block all the other slash commands next build as well :p |
| 07:20.56 | Simca__ | extremely unlikely |
| 07:20.58 | bluspacecow | b-b-b-but |
| 07:21.12 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:21.20 | nevcairiel | have you been paying attention the previous betas? :P |
| 07:21.32 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:21.35 | Simca__ | yes, and they have never blocked /dump that I know |
| 07:21.39 | Simca__ | always just /run |
| 07:21.42 | bluspacecow | maybe to the shineis nevvy |
| 07:21.45 | airtonix | /dumps on bluspacecow |
| 07:21.51 | Simca__ | if you wanted to run Dominos, for example |
| 07:21.52 | bluspacecow | ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww |
| 07:22.09 | Simca__ | you would have to copypaste over 150 lines of code one by one |
| 07:22.11 | Simca__ | into chat |
| 07:22.32 | Simca__ | anyone who wastes that much time is probably not their general testing population |
| 07:23.00 | nevcairiel | and how would that be different to /run exactly? |
| 07:23.42 | Simca__ | it's not, there's no point in blocking that either |
| 07:24.00 | nevcairiel | there is, its called cogwheel :P |
| 07:24.04 | Simca__ | wastes 15 characters getting around it, so it would be less lines |
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| 07:27.03 | Primer | sigh, I have so many addons, I don't want to do the half the addons thing |
| 07:27.20 | bluspacecow | … |
| 07:27.29 | bluspacecow | how many do you have ? |
| 07:27.45 | Primer | according to curse client, 93 |
| 07:27.48 | Primer | but some are libs |
| 07:28.07 | Fisker | oh my Lopeppeppy that's some epic overtime |
| 07:28.41 | bluspacecow | should be about 6 - 7 passess then |
| 07:28.44 | Simca__ | grep or use a similar string finding utility to search all .lua and .xml files in Interface\Addons\ for SentChatMessage.*PARTY |
| 07:28.54 | nevcairiel | the half-the-addons thing (also called a binary search) is pretty fast, no matter the number of your addons. with 100 it should be just a couple tries |
| 07:29.07 | bluspacecow | 2 power 6 = 64 2 power 7 = 128 |
| 07:29.15 | Simca__ | then you're looking at maybe 10 possible culprits instead of 93 |
| 07:29.16 | nebula169 | "RAID" also gets send to party if you're not in a raid |
| 07:29.22 | Simca__ | good point |
| 07:29.58 | bluspacecow | thats a max of 7 passes before the problem disappears , in practice maybe 3 or 4 |
| 07:30.13 | Primer | PB4 has a dep on an out of date library? |
| 07:30.14 | Primer | wtf |
| 07:30.27 | nebula169 | which? |
| 07:30.37 | bluspacecow | LOL wot |
| 07:30.48 | nevcairiel | its not like PB4 is the most up-to-date addon in the world |
| 07:30.50 | Primer | I'm reloading again |
| 07:31.08 | Primer | 1x PitBull4-@project-version@\Modules\Aggro\Aggro.lua:81: PitBull4_Aggro requires the library LibBanzai-2.0 to be available. |
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| 07:31.30 | Primer | that's one of the libs at the root of addons |
| 07:31.42 | bluspacecow | #dramatic llama facepalm# |
| 07:31.48 | bluspacecow | silly me closing chat window |
| 07:31.57 | Primer | which is now disabled due to having disabled out of date addons |
| 07:32.04 | nebula169 | well, it was updated for 5.0 |
| 07:32.13 | Primer | it == ? |
| 07:32.17 | nebula169 | LibBanzai-2.0 |
| 07:34.56 | Primer | curse isn't picking it up then |
| 07:35.17 | Primer | LibBanzai-2.0 r43 |
| 07:35.45 | Simca__ | "disabled out of date addons" "updated for 5.0" |
| 07:35.48 | nevcairiel | its only compatible with 5.0, not 5.4, so obviously it'll show out of date |
| 07:35.55 | Simca__ | ^ |
| 07:36.16 | Primer | ok, I guess I should have read what he wrote |
| 07:36.31 | nevcairiel | r43 is broken btw, you need at least r45 for it to work |
| 07:36.32 | Primer | I'm going to guess that's not the addon that's causing the problem |
| 07:36.56 | Primer | ok, set to alpha and it's pulling r45 in |
| 07:37.20 | nevcairiel | if you run disembedded libs, you better run them on alpha if you want it to work :d |
| 07:37.28 | Primer | I don't |
| 07:37.36 | Primer | that's one of 3 libs I have that are disembeded |
| 07:37.38 | nevcairiel | since the packager will pull alphas, unless specifically instructed otherwise |
| 07:39.22 | Primer | hrmm, maybe it's TinyTip |
| 07:39.28 | Primer | that addon's been out of date forever |
| 07:39.40 | Primer | Any recommendations for a tooltip addon? |
| 07:39.58 | MiRai | TipTac |
| 07:40.02 | Primer | thanks |
| 07:40.08 | MiRai | nods |
| 07:40.15 | Primer | I just can't stand having the tooltip not be on the mouseover |
| 07:42.00 | nevcairiel | i use tinytip without any problems |
| 07:42.01 | bluspacecow | Tooltip on mouse shoudl still work afaik |
| 07:42.04 | nevcairiel | its so tiny, it never breaks |
| 07:42.55 | Primer | Ok, spam is gone |
| 07:47.04 | Primer | Ok, I'll re-enable tinytip |
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| 07:53.10 | airtonix | karl_w_w: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4b6fasaJ7M |
| 07:53.14 | airtonix | accurate trailer |
| 07:53.44 | Primer | I have a total of 4 TinyTip addons |
| 07:54.06 | Primer | TinyTip itself, TinyTipOptions, TinyTipPositioning, and TinyTipTargets |
| 07:54.49 | karl_w_w | hey airtonix |
| 07:54.49 | Primer | just re-enabled all 4 |
| 07:54.52 | karl_w_w | you sound mad |
| 07:55.06 | airtonix | BAAAHHHHHHH |
| 07:55.13 | Primer | wtf, it's not working |
| 07:55.50 | Workfoz | thx blizzard for launching beta at 00:00 so I only got 3 hours of sleep tonight >_< |
| 07:56.05 | nevcairiel | as if you would've slept more otherwise |
| 07:56.11 | nevcairiel | dont make silly excuses |
| 07:56.18 | Primer | argh, seems out of date addons is still disabled |
| 07:56.20 | Workfoz | true, somehow |
| 07:56.23 | Primer | but now I'm already in a bg |
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| 08:12.25 | karl_w_w | bluspacecow, did you know I can peel a banana with my bare hands? |
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| 08:17.21 | airtonix | with your bear hands? |
| 08:20.25 | karl_w_w | those too |
| 08:24.43 | karl_w_w | so final fantasy 6 is a great game, but finding a save point can be a real pain in the ass |
| 08:28.53 | bluspacecow | oh rly |
| 08:29.11 | airtonix | so ass, much pain, wow |
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| 08:50.16 | Workfoz | nice forest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk8Gkq4enjY&feature=youtu.be :D |
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| 09:21.29 | karl_w_w | what fonts do people use for their IRC? |
| 09:21.49 | zenzio | I seem to use Consolas 10 |
| 09:22.13 | karl_w_w | me too, thought I'd try something else |
| 09:22.23 | Gethe | Segoe UI |
| 09:22.23 | zenzio | Comic Sans |
| 09:24.03 | karl_w_w | some of them have really weird line spacing |
| 09:24.07 | karl_w_w | in hexchat at least |
| 09:24.27 | Maldivia | courier new :P |
| 09:26.14 | karl_w_w | wow courier new? look at you with your fancy modern stuff |
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| 09:30.25 | Maldivia | at least it's not fixedsys :) |
| 09:30.44 | karl_w_w | im slowly coming to the conclusion that consolas is the only good font |
| 09:31.00 | Wobin | I always come back to it |
| 09:31.35 | karl_w_w | what was that font which everyone used to have and was used along side comic sans |
| 09:31.36 | Maldivia | what about bitstream vera sans mono ? |
| 09:31.39 | airtonix | karl_w_w: fonts that render |
| 09:31.58 | karl_w_w | it was really clowny |
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| 09:33.44 | karl_w_w | so I tried to use Kalinga and hexchat crashed |
| 09:34.41 | Fisker | Verdana master race |
| 09:34.57 | karl_w_w | I used to use verdana I think |
| 09:36.24 | Workfoz | Consolas 11 (since Consolas is officially made to be used at 11, and it shows) |
| 09:36.55 | karl_w_w | that's fkn huge |
| 09:37.00 | Kalroth | Lucida Console 10 |
| 09:37.16 | Kalroth | is the only real IRC font! |
| 09:37.53 | karl_w_w | ooh this is nice |
| 09:38.01 | karl_w_w | Malgun Gothic 10 |
| 09:38.08 | Kalroth | >< |
| 09:39.03 | karl_w_w | but not as good as consolas |
| 09:39.35 | Workfoz | karl_w_w: meh, at 1200p it's ok |
| 09:41.10 | karl_w_w | Why is this font called Microsoft JhengHei |
| 09:41.41 | karl_w_w | Microsoft have commissioned plenty of fonts, why's this one special? :P |
| 09:44.39 | Workfoz | what do you mean |
| 09:44.43 | Workfoz | what IS special about it? |
| 09:45.44 | Workfoz | can you uninstall client languages in WoW somehow? |
| 09:45.54 | Workfoz | or do I have to go through the dirs and delete what I think might be appropriate |
| 09:46.35 | airtonix | nothing microsoft creates is special. |
| 09:46.39 | airtonix | you've been fooled |
| 09:47.03 | sb | Workfoz: why do you want to do that? |
| 09:47.13 | Workfoz | because my install is 32 GB fat |
| 09:47.14 | sb | buy new ssd |
| 09:47.20 | Workfoz | yeah that was my first thought |
| 09:47.24 | Workfoz | but I'd have to move my OS over |
| 09:47.49 | Workfoz | so I was checking out if making enough room for WS+WoW+WoD was possible |
| 09:47.50 | karl_w_w | it says Microsoft in the name of the font, Workfoz |
| 09:47.59 | Workfoz | karl_w_w: don't all the MS asian fonts do that |
| 09:48.11 | Workfoz | MingChe, Gul, whatever their names are |
| 09:48.14 | karl_w_w | I have no idea |
| 09:48.20 | Workfoz | I think so, but I might misremember |
| 09:48.40 | Workfoz | sb: I'll have to move D3 (I don't own RoS anyway) and HS (lol 2GB) off the SSD :D |
| 09:49.07 | sb | i need a new SSD - had to install wildstar on my regular hdd |
| 09:49.22 | Workfoz | hehe |
| 09:49.25 | Workfoz | yeah |
| 09:49.37 | Workfoz | I can't imagine how your loading screens must feel like |
| 09:49.44 | Workfoz | they're mostly gone within a second for me, if that |
| 09:50.17 | sb | there are loading screens? |
| 09:50.39 | sb | no problem there |
| 09:51.04 | Workfoz | sure there are, and you'll notice them soon enough if your game is on hdd :D |
| 09:51.17 | sb | i have ESO on my old ssd (vertex 128 gb :D) - loading screens (and they have them like every 5 minutes, because you have to enter houses, dungeons etc.) taking 20seconds+ |
| 09:51.25 | Workfoz | lolwut |
| 09:51.33 | Workfoz | that's either a really bad ssd or a really bad engine, then |
| 09:51.51 | sb | bad engine |
| 09:52.10 | sb | gf has the game on samsung 830 - about the same loading times for here |
| 09:52.14 | sb | her |
| 09:52.49 | sb | get quest, go into house (loading), talk to y, leave house (loading), go to dungeon, enter dungeon (loading), etc.. |
| 09:52.55 | sb | pretty annoying :| |
| 09:55.52 | Workfoz | sounds great |
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| 10:35.15 | airtonix | karl_w_w: godzilla is a waste of space |
| 10:35.30 | airtonix | i mean goatzilla |
| 10:35.42 | karl_w_w | okay |
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| 13:21.06 | Lopeppeppy | la la la la - HI ALESTANE! |
| 13:25.04 | alestane | Good morning, Peppy. |
| 13:25.10 | alestane | I haz an interview. |
| 13:25.26 | Lopeppeppy | Excellent! I shall cross my digits for you. |
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| 13:34.04 | Fisker | hey Lopeppeppy |
| 13:34.06 | Fisker | You're up late |
| 13:34.07 | Fisker | :3 |
| 13:34.30 | Lopeppeppy | No, apparently my computer just didn't shut down last night like it was supposed to. |
| 13:35.52 | Fisker | suuuuuuure |
| 13:50.33 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:00.04 | karl_w_w | you know what would be awesome? if they digitally enhanced breakfast at tiffany's |
| 14:00.33 | Kaylin | seriously |
| 14:00.34 | karl_w_w | and by digitally enhance I mean remove all the parts involving mickey rooney |
| 14:01.15 | Kaylin | haha |
| 14:02.05 | Kaylin | + |
| 14:03.11 | Dagmar | Midget hater! |
| 14:07.03 | inomena | hm... |
| 14:07.21 | inomena | quests in starting zones behave differently than any other quest |
| 14:07.28 | inomena | how annoying |
| 14:09.14 | Simca | yeah, that was part of their 'revamped 1-10 experience' in cata |
| 14:09.51 | inomena | seems to just be the very first place, so 1-5 |
| 14:10.00 | inomena | but I have to support that :/ |
| 14:10.25 | bluspacecow | elpa elpa elpa |
| 14:10.43 | inomena | but levels aren't accurate enough, and I don't think these quests have any special flags on them neither |
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| 14:11.13 | foxlit | they just accept themselves. What could possibly go wrong? |
| 14:11.13 | inomena | was thinking of checking for zone changes and a small database for every race |
| 14:11.20 | Simca | not sure what yout goal is but you can probably just watch events |
| 14:11.24 | Simca | your* |
| 14:11.30 | inomena | when you have quest automation and it breaks :) |
| 14:11.40 | foxlit | Lousy quest automation, then. |
| 14:12.06 | Simca | there's an event for when the window closes |
| 14:12.13 | Simca | just abandon your pursuits if it closes |
| 14:14.30 | Simca | if you're doing something super weird, you can just hardcode the questIDs or the NPCIDs of the questgivers |
| 14:14.44 | Simca | but there should be better ways to do it, depending on what 'it' is |
| 14:20.46 | inomena | QuestGetAutoAccept can be used to distinguish the quest givers |
| 14:21.00 | inomena | but I need something for hand-ins too |
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| 14:30.54 | Simca | it's not like you get an error if you do a pointless CompleteQuest() |
| 14:31.33 | Simca | it just does nothing |
| 14:33.30 | bluspacecow | :| |
| 14:42.35 | inomena | but the questframe/gossipframe might bug out and get stuck |
| 14:42.42 | inomena | which is what I am trying to resolve |
| 14:46.52 | Simca | HideUIPanel(GossipFrame) |
| 14:47.07 | Simca | or CloseWindow() or whatever |
| 14:48.54 | inomena | yeah I'm aware of both, but I don't want to trigger them willy nilly, that would produce unexpected behaviour on other (normal) quest givers |
| 14:49.22 | inomena | delivering quests is not my current issue though, I've eliminated any issue with those |
| 14:50.19 | inomena | but there are some quest givers that use the GossipFrame and hand out multiple quests in the starting zones, and when you iterate over all their quests they don't update properly and even the API returns incorrect information |
| 14:50.26 | inomena | might be a bug though |
| 14:51.26 | Simca | there are a lot of bugs, but usually if one API is bugged another isn't |
| 14:52.43 | inomena | need to investigate further |
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| 16:31.08 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: damn cliffhangers |
| 16:35.21 | zenzelezz | which series? |
| 16:37.17 | Arrowmaster | stop pinging me, im heading off to bed |
| 16:38.07 | nevcairiel | isnt it mid-day |
| 16:38.14 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 16:38.21 | Arrowmaster | i just pulled a 10 hour night shift |
| 16:38.43 | Arrowmaster | which is leaving early for me because i had a doctors appointment |
| 16:39.24 | Fisker | If you ask people to stop bothering you're gonna have a bad time |
| 16:39.25 | Fisker | :o |
| 16:39.45 | Arrowmaster | i finally got a week of all night shift instead of switching around mid week, but they are trying to automate me out of a night shift now and ill probably have to go back to day |
| 16:40.38 | Arrowmaster | ok sleep now |
| 16:44.40 | Semlar | Primer: unflagged enemy players don't have nameplates |
| 16:51.27 | Semlar | flagged players should display fine assuming you have them enabled |
| 16:55.19 | karl_w_w | im confused by twitter |
| 16:55.38 | karl_w_w | sometimes I tweet and they dont appear anywhere |
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| 17:02.04 | Maldivia | choppers... not even close |
| 17:13.05 | nevcairiel | will the winning bike be faction locked? |
| 17:13.08 | nevcairiel | that would kinda suck |
| 17:13.35 | foxlit | the winning snowmobile? |
| 17:17.12 | Fisker | You're a snowmobile |
| 17:17.20 | foxlit | certainly am! |
| 17:17.26 | foxlit | Comes in handy on the sandy dunes of bornholm. |
| 17:18.07 | Fisker | pls |
| 17:18.14 | Fisker | you're not even anywhere near bornholm |
| 17:19.46 | foxlit | ssh, you’ll totally blow my cover. Besides, am probably closer to bornholm than to the moon. |
| 17:20.17 | Fisker | That's probably true |
| 17:20.48 | Fisker | Unless there's a moon mission in progress I don't know about |
| 17:32.58 | Alram | dat jq |
| 17:33.02 | Alram | dat wrong channel |
| 17:38.28 | Fisker | dat Alram |
| 17:38.37 | Alram | dat Fisker |
| 17:40.41 | Fisker | :) |
| 17:40.43 | Fisker | ilu |
| 17:40.59 | Fisker | As much as Xerxes love being almost naked |
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| 17:48.34 | pompy | Stanzilla: http://majornelson.com/2014/06/05/pc-drivers-for-the-xbox-one-controller-available-now/?linkId=8424381 |
| 17:49.08 | Stanzilla | pompy: thats why I bought one today! |
| 17:49.20 | pompy | nice! |
| 17:49.28 | Stanzilla | yes! |
| 17:50.47 | Fisker | Why would you do that |
| 17:50.54 | Stanzilla | because I have no gamepad for my pc |
| 17:51.07 | Stanzilla | procrastinated that since PS2 release or so |
| 17:51.25 | haste | but you have to use a cable? |
| 17:52.07 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 17:52.37 | Fisker | I wouldn't want a gamepad for my pc |
| 17:52.49 | A-KO | should be getting my F&F alpha invite today... |
| 17:52.52 | A-KO | waits impatiently |
| 17:52.55 | A-KO | I'm sick, too, so... |
| 17:53.09 | Stanzilla | A-KO: are you sure that there is a wave today? |
| 17:53.28 | pompy | https://twitter.com/majornelson/statuses/474597301303140352 |
| 17:54.32 | A-KO | Stanzilla: I suppose whenever they get around to inviting folks. I'm not entirely sure it's in "waves" at this phase. |
| 17:54.46 | A-KO | but I could be wrong, I don't know how exactly they do it. |
| 17:54.47 | Fisker | NDA A-KO |
| 17:54.54 | A-KO | is there Fisker? |
| 17:55.02 | Fisker | Probably not |
| 17:55.02 | Stanzilla | no |
| 17:55.03 | A-KO | that was blown off the lid when people talked about it all over the internet :P |
| 17:55.39 | A-KO | All I know is people at Blizz request to add folks. Not sure on the timing. The previous times have been pretty quick |
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| 18:40.28 | Shirik | eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 18:40.52 | Fisker | fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff |
| 18:40.57 | Shirik | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10100334785075218&set=a.894512932148.2212587.39704112&type=1 |
| 18:41.22 | Simca | A-KO: there are waves |
| 18:41.28 | Dagmar | Shirik: *jealous* |
| 18:41.34 | Fisker | you're a wave Simca |
| 18:41.40 | Fisker | meh Shirik |
| 18:41.40 | Simca | and a looot of people didn't get in the first one |
| 18:42.07 | Simca | there was like 250 people on at peak times last night lol |
| 18:42.24 | Simca | this isn't like Heroes Tech Alpha where there were 10k invites in the first wave - i'm thinking it was more like 1k |
| 18:42.57 | Shirik | what I'm most worried about atm is screwing up the google authenticator transfer :P |
| 18:43.35 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 18:43.41 | Fisker | just read the databases file and transfer it manually |
| 18:45.20 | Fisker | do it Shirik |
| 18:47.02 | Shirik | I think you don't understand |
| 18:47.10 | Shirik | the whole reason I switched away from Apple is because THEY DON'T LET YOU DO THAT KIND OF STUFF |
| 18:47.14 | Shirik | they're all like "MINE MINE" |
| 18:49.09 | Fisker | oh yeah |
| 18:49.11 | Fisker | OH YEAH |
| 18:49.13 | Fisker | I forgot you were silly |
| 18:49.16 | Fisker | sorry Shirik |
| 18:49.26 | Fisker | I thought you were a proper gentleman |
| 18:49.33 | Fisker | Unlike Lopeppeppy |
| 18:52.12 | Fisker | Well it's pretty easy to transfer anyway |
| 18:52.20 | Fisker | Just need to deattach it and reattach it |
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| 18:56.19 | Shirik | yeah, for every site :( |
| 18:56.27 | Shirik | the good news is I'm not getting "rid" of my iphone |
| 18:56.34 | Shirik | and there's no need for it to be connected to the network to give me the codes |
| 18:56.46 | Fisker | How many other sites do you need one for? |
| 18:56.46 | Shirik | so I kinda have a fallback plan |
| 18:56.51 | Shirik | I have about 20 sites in there |
| 18:56.52 | Unkle | I'd very much like a smartphone that didn't come with Apple, Google or Microsoft, or the carrier snooping/storing/collecting up everything. Sadly, no such thing exists. |
| 18:56.56 | Fisker | wat how? |
| 18:57.08 | Fisker | Does Unkle |
| 18:57.09 | Shirik | I am security conscious? |
| 18:57.12 | Fisker | Cyanogenmod or AOSP |
| 18:57.43 | Unkle | Fisker: Do they completely eliminate googleplay services from Android? |
| 18:57.55 | Fisker | Google Play Services are not part of AOSP |
| 18:58.27 | Fisker | Just flash CM without gapps and you're done |
| 18:59.33 | Unkle | That's better. The next bit would be to get the carrier to stop storing everything. |
| 18:59.46 | inomena | What happened to SetAltArrowKeyMode? |
| 19:00.27 | Shirik | hey karl_w_w |
| 19:00.35 | Shirik | LoL is becoming DOTA2 |
| 19:00.41 | Shirik | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e_N4WpqH5o |
| 19:01.49 | Primer | Semlar: naw, the plates were all over the place |
| 19:01.50 | Fisker | why don't you hey Fisker Shirik? |
| 19:02.08 | Semlar | do you have a screenshot |
| 19:02.12 | Primer | Semlar: I was in bgs last night and most of the times the plates were just flying around in random places |
| 19:02.17 | Primer | I can do better! |
| 19:02.17 | Fisker | upgraded graphics or something Shirik ? |
| 19:02.54 | Primer | http://www.twitch.tv/barfolomeu/b/535568143 |
| 19:02.59 | Semlar | without seeing it i can tell you it's almost definitely another nameplate addon |
| 19:03.14 | Primer | unfortunately I stream with an open mic |
| 19:03.15 | Gnarfoz | yay streaming WoD |
| 19:03.24 | Primer | so you might hear my wife and kids and dog |
| 19:03.39 | Shirik | radically changed graphics, yes Fisker |
| 19:03.49 | nevcairiel | we should put a ban on people rubbing the alpha into everyones faces |
| 19:04.03 | Primer | actually, that video might have been after I removed Semlarplates from Addons |
| 19:04.03 | nevcairiel | also Gnarfoz tauren is ugly |
| 19:04.04 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: http://www.twitch.tv/gnarfoz http://www.twitch.tv/gnarfoz http://www.twitch.tv/gnarfoz http://www.twitch.tv/gnarfoz http://www.twitch.tv/gnarfoz http://www.twitch.tv/gnarfoz |
| 19:04.11 | Shirik | pets Gnarfoz |
| 19:04.12 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: almost no other new models in |
| 19:04.19 | Semlar | looks like tidyplates |
| 19:04.20 | Primer | yeah, it is |
| 19:04.37 | Shirik | too bad what you SHOULD be playing is Wildstar Gnarfoz |
| 19:04.48 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: yeah, fuck blizzard's timing |
| 19:05.03 | karl_w_w | Shirik, but it still looks like something a 12 year old drew |
| 19:05.03 | Semlar | my plates will break any other addon that attaches to the nameplates |
| 19:05.15 | Semlar | because it scales them |
| 19:05.28 | Semlar | which means everything else will appear in a completely different location |
| 19:05.35 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: so you prefer a broken and incomplete alpha over the fancy new game you just started paying for? :d |
| 19:05.47 | Gnarfoz | I did? |
| 19:05.50 | Gnarfoz | you seem confused |
| 19:05.51 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 19:06.03 | Gnarfoz | free month! ("free" yeah yeah) |
| 19:06.08 | Gnarfoz | also, WS has its own bugs :p |
| 19:06.09 | Fisker | what game is that nevcairiel ? |
| 19:06.11 | Gnarfoz | wtb fixed nameplates |
| 19:06.16 | Gnarfoz | wtb no memory leak |
| 19:06.18 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 19:07.05 | Primer | wtf this one video has it but there's also some really fucked up noise |
| 19:07.15 | Lopeppeppy | I am NOT a gentleman. Nor am I proper. |
| 19:07.30 | Primer | Semlar: http://www.twitch.tv/barfolomeu/b/535562550 fast forward to where I join EoTS, but also mute it |
| 19:07.44 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: your video sure blurs out when you move around |
| 19:07.48 | Semlar | i already muted it because the last one you linked had a bunch of feedback |
| 19:07.52 | Fisker | Exactly Lopeppeppy |
| 19:08.01 | nevcairiel | bump up dat bitrate |
| 19:08.03 | Primer | You can see nameplates hovering all over the periphery of the screen |
| 19:08.08 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: it's at 4 M |
| 19:08.12 | Gnarfoz | already over suggested for twitch |
| 19:08.25 | Primer | Gnarfoz: Are you using nvidia nvenc? |
| 19:08.30 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 19:08.38 | Primer | I tried that last night...it's what's causing your pixelation |
| 19:08.41 | Semlar | those are tidyplates |
| 19:08.45 | Gnarfoz | what pixelation |
| 19:08.45 | Semlar | you're running it at the same time |
| 19:08.46 | Dagmar | Think of them as "lurking" or perhaps "cruising" |
| 19:08.47 | Gnarfoz | he said blurriness |
| 19:08.54 | nevcairiel | well its a bit of both |
| 19:08.57 | Primer | I reverted back to x264 |
| 19:08.58 | Semlar | my nameplates are displaying in the correct location |
| 19:09.12 | Primer | Semlar: ahhh, I didn't realize I had to disable tidyplates :) |
| 19:09.13 | Primer | doh |
| 19:09.18 | Primer | of course, that makes sense now |
| 19:09.30 | Semlar | my addon changes the scale of the plates so they have a smaller clickable area |
| 19:09.33 | Gnarfoz | I never ran x264 so that's not set up and I'd rather not fiddle with it now |
| 19:09.36 | Semlar | and that breaks the position of other nameplate addons |
| 19:09.56 | Semlar | it's sort of fixable but not very high priority for me |
| 19:10.18 | nevcairiel | what resolution are you streaming? twitch doesn't make that too easy to see |
| 19:10.53 | nevcairiel | if its full 1080p, its of course part of the reason. you could go down in the resolution at the expense of text no longer being readable, but everything else looking better :D |
| 19:11.14 | Gnarfoz | switched it to x264, apparently it was already set up from wildstar tests |
| 19:11.23 | Gnarfoz | 1920x1200 because that's my screen |
| 19:11.28 | Gnarfoz | better? |
| 19:11.34 | nevcairiel | still loading, sec |
| 19:12.23 | Semlar | it feels really weird watching someone else play with my nameplates because i associate them with me |
| 19:12.29 | nevcairiel | does it lag for you? |
| 19:12.35 | nevcairiel | seems to lag in the stream |
| 19:12.36 | Gnarfoz | the game? |
| 19:13.01 | nevcairiel | but at least the movement blur/pixelation is gone |
| 19:13.39 | Semlar | gnarfoz's stream is laggin |
| 19:13.47 | nevcairiel | yeah quite bad delays/hangs occasionally |
| 19:13.56 | Gnarfoz | well, twitch is dying as I said earlier already |
| 19:14.01 | Semlar | it's more like stuttering for me |
| 19:14.01 | Gnarfoz | took me half an hour to get my IRC key |
| 19:14.08 | Gnarfoz | and I thought you meant the game, nev |
| 19:14.25 | nevcairiel | well what do i know if its recording the lag or introducing it later! |
| 19:14.41 | Semlar | what frame rate are you streaming at |
| 19:14.50 | Gnarfoz | 30 fps I think |
| 19:15.22 | nevcairiel | whats the horde icon in the top center for? |
| 19:15.26 | Gnarfoz | wha wtf ^^ |
| 19:15.36 | kd3 | it lets you summon your troops to fight for you for 15s or so |
| 19:15.39 | Semlar | for the horde! |
| 19:15.47 | nevcairiel | and now he died |
| 19:15.49 | kd3 | if the garrison's getting invaded or something like that |
| 19:15.59 | Gnarfoz | can you even hear my silly voice |
| 19:16.01 | Gnarfoz | or is that broken, too |
| 19:16.02 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 19:16.15 | nevcairiel | we can also see your silly face |
| 19:17.10 | Primer | haha nice beard |
| 19:17.40 | Gnarfoz | ty |
| 19:18.14 | Primer | Beards make me look older...because my beard hair now is mostly white |
| 19:18.37 | Primer | hey, what happened to the outline? |
| 19:18.42 | Primer | I want that back! |
| 19:18.43 | Gnarfoz | it's still there |
| 19:19.07 | Primer | ok, I see it |
| 19:19.24 | Primer | target it |
| 19:20.44 | Primer | doh! |
| 19:20.48 | Primer | terrible |
| 19:20.52 | Gnarfoz | yep |
| 19:21.25 | Primer | ugh, so I have actual work I have to do today |
| 19:21.28 | Gnarfoz | might I point out I'm wearing the appropriate t-shirt, though? |
| 19:21.29 | Primer | would love to keep watching |
| 19:21.36 | Primer | I missed it |
| 19:21.41 | Primer | already closed the stream |
| 19:21.45 | Gnarfoz | didn't show it yet :D |
| 19:21.52 | Primer | checks again |
| 19:22.00 | Gnarfoz | but it's dumb/obvious |
| 19:22.47 | Primer | it's hard to see, as it's rather dark |
| 19:22.49 | Primer | there you go |
| 19:22.59 | Primer | ahh WoD shirt |
| 19:23.11 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 19:23.28 | Primer | target that big ass thing in the background |
| 19:23.41 | Primer | kill it! |
| 19:24.02 | Primer | You don't have HP showing in your frames |
| 19:25.15 | Primer | yeah, I have no idea where it is |
| 19:25.24 | Primer | I would have guessed under unit frames |
| 19:26.48 | Simca | status text |
| 19:27.25 | Simca | the default WoW options are probably the worst thing about the entire game |
| 19:27.36 | Primer | bah, ok, so I popped out your stream and put it on my 4th monitor |
| 19:27.39 | Gnarfoz | I intentionally don't show it |
| 19:27.47 | Primer | it's now covering my production log tail terminals |
| 19:27.56 | Gnarfoz | Primer: hope you heard that just now :D |
| 19:28.17 | Primer | AHHH sound!! WAS IST LOS! |
| 19:28.27 | Gnarfoz | I was talking to you the entire time :< |
| 19:28.33 | Primer | Sorry, I had it muted |
| 19:29.16 | Primer | I guess I knew you were German...it's just that the accent doesn't come through on IRC |
| 19:29.43 | Gnarfoz | also I don't really get to /speak/ English regularily, so it's quite German right now, probably |
| 19:29.53 | Primer | ist gut |
| 19:30.19 | Primer | I don't really speak German, BTW. My mom does. She used to curse me in German when I was little. |
| 19:30.30 | Primer | Swinehund! |
| 19:30.37 | Primer | Was her favorite |
| 19:32.23 | Primer | What was that program? |
| 19:33.13 | Primer | Gnarfoz: Rush? |
| 19:33.18 | Gnarfoz | Primer: yes |
| 19:33.18 | Primer | hard to make out |
| 19:34.01 | Primer | I'm a long time Rush fan. Been listening to them since 1978, A Farewell to Kings |
| 19:36.45 | Gnarfoz | I wasn't even born then |
| 19:36.51 | Gnarfoz | not even planned :D |
| 19:38.14 | TC-Work | Yea, Primer is an old fogey |
| 19:39.24 | Primer | I was 10...do the math |
| 19:39.49 | Primer | I remember listening to Cygnus X1 and being afraid |
| 19:39.57 | TC-Work | 45 then |
| 19:39.58 | TC-Work | or so |
| 19:40.08 | Primer | 46 |
| 19:44.57 | TC-Work | Speaking of which Primer, I can drive you down and back for the dinner. Assuming I have a new car. |
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| 19:49.13 | Unkle | Wait... someone other than Iriel in this channel is slightly older than me? Holy shit. |
| 19:50.00 | Primer | TC-Work: Well, I have a car, so if you don't, it could work the other way around |
| 19:50.23 | Unkle | I will be driving to BlizzCon - so i will have my car as well. |
| 19:50.24 | TC-Work | Primer: I have a car, I'm just not sure I trust it that much. |
| 19:50.41 | TC-Work | Unkle: But you will be staying, not just coming down for the dinner |
| 19:51.01 | Unkle | Very true. Staying for 5-ish days. |
| 19:52.29 | TC-Work | And I need to get a new one, I am just lazy. |
| 19:54.12 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: is there some way for me to know if the lag is on my end? :\ |
| 19:54.24 | Gnarfoz | or well, anyone knowledgeable about twitch and OBS I guess |
| 19:55.00 | Gnarfoz | ahaha |
| 19:55.04 | Gnarfoz | ok just saw it by accident |
| 19:55.12 | Gnarfoz | red message in twitch |
| 19:55.18 | Primer | TC-Work: what day is it? |
| 19:55.20 | Gnarfoz | "taking too long to encode, skipping frames!" |
| 19:59.48 | Unkle | Gnarfoz: Encoding probably ends up causing a lot of swapping to happen. How much RAM, what sort of disk, and how much space do you have? |
| 20:00.17 | Gnarfoz | all the wrong questions |
| 20:00.24 | Gnarfoz | later :P |
| 20:00.36 | Gnarfoz | was cpu bound |
| 20:00.54 | Gnarfoz | I'd hope it doesn't use disk at all |
| 20:01.11 | Gnarfoz | (I'm right) |
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| 20:02.47 | Guest19081 | Pfft who could take my name |
| 20:04.03 | NickoTavers | So i hear this is the channel to go to for Wow UI help/advice |
| 20:04.58 | TC-Work | Primer: It will be the thursday before blizzcon |
| 20:05.05 | Gnarfoz | sort of, it's about development primarily, and about the rest of the world otherwise |
| 20:05.31 | Simca | if there was a channel, it would be this channel |
| 20:06.01 | foxlit | psst, #actual-wowuidev |
| 20:06.11 | NickoTavers | Lol Well ill go there then XD |
| 20:06.18 | TC-Work | I'm not sure that 'primarily' really applies in the comment Gnarfoz |
| 20:06.18 | Simca | is that a real thing? lol. |
| 20:06.56 | TC-Work | There is also a wowui BDSM channel that Cairenn hangs out in.... |
| 20:07.02 | Gnarfoz | kinky |
| 20:07.05 | Gnarfoz | where do I sign up? |
| 20:07.15 | Cairenn | *giggle* |
| 20:07.52 | TC-Work | You don't chose it, it choses you. |
| 20:08.04 | Primer | TC-Work: believe it or not, I don't know when Blizzcon is... |
| 20:08.16 | Cairenn | Anaheim, California |
| 20:08.25 | Cairenn | Couple hours east of LA |
| 20:08.33 | Gnarfoz | ?! |
| 20:08.34 | Gnarfoz | when |
| 20:08.36 | Gnarfoz | not where :D |
| 20:08.43 | TC-Work | Primer: nov 7-8 |
| 20:08.44 | kd3 | nov 7-8 |
| 20:08.47 | Cairenn | oh, duh, sorry |
| 20:08.50 | Cairenn | misread |
| 20:08.58 | NickoTavers | So, i Dowloaded an addon that didnt work, and made it half work, only problem im facing right now is Charname-Realmname when the Realmname dosnt exsist. Normally when the other player is in the same group only the Charname is recived and apprently once they leave the groupe they no longer exsist. |
| 20:10.17 | Unkle | There's a function for that. |
| 20:10.39 | NickoTavers | Only one i could find used Unitnames rather then charnames |
| 20:11.21 | NickoTavers | this one name, realm = UnitName("unit") |
| 20:11.49 | Simca | was actually looking at Ace3 last night and wandered across their implementation of something similar |
| 20:13.00 | Simca | I believe they added server to GetPartyInfo or one of the other Party/Instance APIs though |
| 20:13.02 | Simca | that's probably easiest |
| 20:13.18 | Simca | the API changes doc for 5.3 or 5.4 should have it |
| 20:14.48 | Unkle | !api GetUnitName |
| 20:15.04 | Simca | yeah, 5.4 api changes |
| 20:15.10 | Unkle | http://wowpedia.org/API_GetUnitName |
| 20:15.14 | Simca | GetUnitName(unitid[,showServer]) returns 'name-realm' instead of 'name - realm' (spaces removed) and most commands that accept a unitname now, work with 'name-server' format |
| 20:15.41 | Simca | pass the second arg as true and you should get a consistent result |
| 20:16.36 | NickoTavers | Is there a way to get the realm name of someone thats in the party but only using there charname rather then unitname |
| 20:16.39 | Unkle | There's also UnitIsSameServer you can use to test. |
| 20:17.05 | Simca | anticipated and answered his next question with 3 sec, nice |
| 20:17.05 | Unkle | Character name = Unit name for players in your party/raid |
| 20:17.25 | NickoTavers | Right okay i suspected but thought they may be diffrent |
| 20:17.43 | Unkle | Simca: Only because I've been down this rabbit hole more than once. =0 |
| 20:17.47 | Semlar | i'm fairly sure there are a lot of functions that only take a unit name without its realm and including it will break them |
| 20:18.27 | Simca | api changes page for 5.4 suggests otherwise but i'm sure it varies |
| 20:18.33 | Semlar | like UnitClass, UnitHealth, etc |
| 20:18.59 | Semlar | i know for a fact you can't include it for people on your realm |
| 20:19.04 | Semlar | not sure about other realms |
| 20:19.44 | Simca | true, those functions only take unitIDs though |
| 20:20.01 | Semlar | yeah but the unit name is used as a unit id if they're in your group |
| 20:20.16 | Semlar | but not, as far as i know, including the realm |
| 20:20.47 | Simca | yeah you're right |
| 20:20.51 | Unkle | See also: http://wowpedia.org/API_Ambiguate |
| 20:21.17 | Simca | the best named function ever |
| 20:21.58 | Unkle | Complimented by: http://wowpedia.org/API_UnitFullName |
| 20:22.36 | Simca | bizarre |
| 20:23.13 | Simca | duplicate functionality to GetRealmName() I think |
| 20:23.35 | Semlar | GetRealmName tells you your realm name |
| 20:24.13 | NickoTavers | Yes it does, and that what i used to fix this addon foir my current realm |
| 20:24.30 | NickoTavers | but it break when i add people to the party from other realms |
| 20:26.23 | foxlit | The hiliarious thing is that UnitFullName only has one job, and it fails at it. |
| 20:27.24 | Semlar | they should add a few more functions for getting a unit's name |
| 20:28.03 | NickoTavers | So in theroy then this should work even if Name contain just "Charname" or Charname-realmname" then Name = GetUnitName(Name, true); |
| 20:29.16 | Semlar | to get what |
| 20:30.24 | NickoTavers | Charname-realmname i presume |
| 20:30.48 | Semlar | you ALWAYS want the realm name? |
| 20:30.56 | NickoTavers | Yes |
| 20:31.00 | Semlar | because that function doesn't give me the realm name when i use it on myself |
| 20:31.26 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:32.06 | Semlar | i'm guessing it only works for other realms |
| 20:33.00 | NickoTavers | Id have to test on someone on another realm |
| 20:33.16 | Semlar | well, the article seems to indicate that it works with other realms |
| 20:33.53 | NickoTavers | Hmm, I would like it to work for both current realm and other realms rather then have to have sperate code for dealing with both |
| 20:34.23 | NickoTavers | I know some return nil where realm should be if there on the same realm |
| 20:34.58 | Semlar | you could strip the spaces out of GetRealmName and append it if it's nil, i could have sworn there was a blizzard function for this though |
| 20:36.00 | Semlar | GetUnitName must be the blizzard function i'm thinking of, it just doesn't do what i thought it did |
| 20:40.15 | Semlar | local name, server = UnitName(unit) |
| 20:40.17 | Semlar | return name .. '-' .. gsub(server or GetRealmName(), '%s', '') |
| 20:40.26 | Semlar | something like that i guess |
| 20:40.42 | Gnarfoz | back on twitch with the dungeon run http://www.twitch.tv/gnarfoz \o/ |
| 20:40.58 | foxlit | now if only you had a clear statement of the problem you’re trying to solve. |
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| 20:58.23 | NickoTavers | Why is it so hard to find someone from another realm to test this on :( |
| 21:01.36 | Primer | So Semlar, are there no actual plates in your addon? I mean, I like seeing a bar that's class colored |
| 21:02.09 | Semlar | their name and the number above their head representing their health? |
| 21:02.21 | Primer | that's...not enough |
| 21:02.58 | Semlar | there's no bar if that's what you're looking for |
| 21:03.01 | Primer | plus I was hoping to have plates that didn't move all over the place |
| 21:03.22 | Primer | that's the thing I find the most annoying with default nameplates |
| 21:03.29 | Primer | I want this mostly for pvp |
| 21:03.56 | Semlar | well they're attached to their heads, if this is for battlegrounds there are already enemy unit frames for those |
| 21:04.25 | Primer | I imagined an addon that would just move all the nameplates into a corner |
| 21:04.28 | Primer | except there isn't |
| 21:04.34 | Semlar | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/battlegroundtargets |
| 21:04.46 | Primer | not the same |
| 21:04.55 | Primer | those don't update in real time like nameplates |
| 21:05.18 | Primer | there are no cast bars, dot timers, etc. |
| 21:05.26 | Primer | all the things tidyplates has |
| 21:05.41 | Primer | the only thing tidyplates lacks is the ability to keep the fucking nameplates still! |
| 21:06.33 | Primer | then when you're in close quarters and there's a tauren warrior all over your ass, you can't see his nameplate as it's off screen, despite the fact that he's right on top of you |
| 21:06.43 | Primer | say, in the tunnel in WSG |
| 21:07.16 | Primer | Semlar: I recall at one point you demo'd "static" nameplates |
| 21:07.25 | Primer | you were by the dummies in Org |
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| 21:07.43 | Primer | and you had all the nameplates neatly stacked in the corner of your screen |
| 21:07.43 | Semlar | yeah, i didn't have time to finish those |
| 21:07.44 | Unkle | Yeah, I thought Semlar had a proof of concept thing for that |
| 21:07.56 | Semlar | it was more of a proof that you can do it sort of thing |
| 21:08.18 | Primer | Make it so |
| 21:08.43 | Semlar | i didn't find them super useful but that's probably because i don't play a dot class |
| 21:08.54 | Primer | it'd be amazing for a dot class |
| 21:08.55 | Primer | and pvp |
| 21:09.20 | Primer | like boss frames...they're amazing for dot classes too |
| 21:09.55 | Primer | I have boss frames setup to only show my debuffs, and have omnicc tracking the timers. On shit like protectors, it's invaluable |
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| 21:10.17 | Semlar | i'm also a little wary about blizzard possibly taking issue with it and crippling what we can do with nameplates |
| 21:10.25 | Primer | I just imagine a nameplate addon that can give me the equivalent of boss frames...that'd be the ultimate |
| 21:11.25 | Semlar | you won't be able to get the exact same thing as boss frames since nameplates don't have unit ids |
| 21:11.53 | Semlar | just whatever tidyplates has to offer |
| 21:11.56 | Semlar | more or less |
| 21:12.45 | NickoTavers | Havent they already limited nameplates with the last pathc, something about them not chaging during combate unlect a player presses a button |
| 21:12.55 | Unkle | And they'd change as units went in and out of nameplate range, etc? No? |
| 21:13.05 | Semlar | like, if you target a unit their nameplate loses its mouseover interactvity |
| 21:13.26 | Semlar | and when nameplates get recycled they get shuffled around like crazy |
| 21:13.52 | Unkle | NickoTavers: They changed the ability of AddOns to change certain CVars while in combat. |
| 21:14.04 | NickoTavers | Ah yeah that was it |
| 21:14.05 | Semlar | so you either end up with gaps in the unit frames where the nameplate has been hidden or you get them moving around in the list a lot |
| 21:14.42 | Primer | I use a lot of mouseover macros which I tend to cast directly on people on the field, and their nameplates |
| 21:17.12 | Primer | So how would that change you mentioned affect that, Semlar? |
| 21:17.38 | Semlar | the cvar change? |
| 21:17.43 | Primer | I mean, my mouseover macros usually go something like this: /cast [@mouseover,harm] [@target,harm] Stormbolt |
| 21:18.02 | Primer | which means it prefers the mouseover over the target |
| 21:18.16 | Primer | no, the mouseover interactivity |
| 21:18.20 | Semlar | as long as they fall back to your target if mouseover doesn't exist and nothing is actually under the nameplate when it loses interactivity it'll work |
| 21:18.40 | Primer | in arena that's no big deal since there are enemy plates for arena |
| 21:19.08 | Primer | and I usually prefer to use those for mouseover...I use gladius for that |
| 21:19.08 | Semlar | i was covering the nameplate with a mouse-enabled frame when it lost interactivity so you wouldn't accidentally click what's under it |
| 21:19.37 | Primer | for when you use traps, for example? |
| 21:19.54 | Primer | I recall your main is a hunter |
| 21:20.20 | Semlar | i never used the locked nameplates in actual combat |
| 21:20.33 | Semlar | i didn't end up liking them for it |
| 21:21.17 | Primer | See, battlegroundtargets would be perfect if things like cast bars and dot timers worked for it |
| 21:21.41 | Primer | I don't see why cast bars couldn't be added, since that can be gleaned from the combat log |
| 21:21.42 | Semlar | if i just threw something together for tidyplates you'd have to make a theme for it that would work with vertically stacked nameplates |
| 21:21.50 | Semlar | like, the debuffs would have to expand horizontally |
| 21:21.55 | Semlar | they couldn't stack up vertically |
| 21:22.40 | Semlar | i'm not really familiar with the tidyplate theme system |
| 21:23.25 | Primer | I'd be down for figuring that out |
| 21:23.59 | Semlar | i might have to dig through some of my scripts because i made a lot of variations on it |
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| 21:25.22 | Semlar | the best result was from creating a bunch of secure frames that hid themselves on mouseover, it was a little bit of an illusion |
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| 21:26.20 | Semlar | like, it had secure frames stacked down the screen where each nameplate would get anchored |
| 21:26.39 | Semlar | and when you moused over one, it hid itself and moved all the nameplates to where you expected them to be |
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| 21:27.09 | Semlar | the visible portion was always there, it just moved the clicky part when you moused over it |
| 21:28.53 | Semlar | if i remember correctly tidyplates always attached itself to the clickable part so it didn't adapt well, i'd have to change how tidyplates anchors to the nameplate |
| 21:30.09 | Semlar | meh |
| 21:30.19 | Primer | well, no big |
| 21:30.36 | Primer | I just wish there was another option other than stack or spread |
| 21:31.14 | Semlar | sticky nameplates |
| 21:32.18 | Primer | checks for said option |
| 21:32.29 | Semlar | it's not a thing |
| 21:32.48 | Primer | no such option |
| 21:33.05 | Primer | the third option is overlapping, which is by far way worse than the other 2 |
| 21:33.47 | Semlar | i use overlapping plates |
| 21:34.02 | Semlar | but that's why i scale them because the original nameplate sizes are way too big |
| 21:37.55 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:38.57 | Semlar | i know they don't have debuffs though |
| 21:42.32 | Semlar | i know i put a ton of work into it before i decided i didn't like it |
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| 21:47.02 | Primer | oh boy |
| 21:47.21 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.50 | Primer | ooohhh! |
| 21:48.06 | Primer | That looks promissing |
| 21:48.20 | Semlar | i have no idea how usable they are in their current condition |
| 21:49.09 | Primer | guessing those others are friendlies? |
| 21:49.17 | Semlar | yeah |
| 21:49.33 | Semlar | they won't show up if you only have enemies enabled |
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| 22:18.15 | MiRai | Semlar: I'm kinda on the same page as Primer, where I thought the crosshair was independent from the nameplate. I thought maybe you were using something like Doc's Nameplates (which could be made to look similar to yours) and the crosshair was standalone. |
| 22:18.29 | MiRai | Either way, it's very cool. |
| 22:18.38 | MiRai | but I do prefer to see the plates myself |
| 22:18.47 | MiRai | plates/bars |
| 22:25.27 | Random | la la la |
| 22:25.31 | Random | who wants in the new wow alpha? |
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| 22:35.39 | Gnarfoz | many people |
| 22:35.48 | Gnarfoz | it's not like you can do anything about it |
| 22:36.34 | Random | your right. |
| 22:36.41 | Gnarfoz | I like my left better! |
| 22:36.44 | Gnarfoz | :< |
| 22:36.45 | Random | i was going to offer some people a way to get into the alpha |
| 22:36.48 | Random | but nevermind |
| 22:36.54 | Gnarfoz | "a way" sounds totally legit |
| 22:37.05 | Random | a way is legit |
| 22:37.20 | Random | blizzard just asked me if i knew anyone intrested into getting into alpha |
| 22:37.45 | Simca | it's a long shot, they won't buy that random people are staff |
| 22:37.56 | Gnarfoz | literally random |
| 22:38.07 | Random | simca ehhhhh ^_^ |
| 22:38.15 | Random | it worked for hots |
| 22:38.30 | kd3 | they're being a bit more blase about hots than they are about wod |
| 22:38.38 | Random | hahahahah kd3 true |
| 22:38.59 | Simca | Heroes had like 6-8k people online the first night. WoD alpha had like 350 across both servers combined |
| 22:39.03 | Random | but well find out either way |
| 22:39.32 | Gnarfoz | Simca, don't make me feel special :o |
| 22:40.12 | Gnarfoz | maybe it's that low because too many people thought they were dreaming when they got the notification ;p |
| 22:40.23 | Random | i got the notification but was to lazy to play it |
| 22:40.29 | nevcairiel | I don't think they invited that many people |
| 22:40.39 | Stanzilla | I still have no HOTS invite :( |
| 22:40.43 | nevcairiel | a bunch probably still needed to download |
| 22:41.02 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: same, no idea what's taking so long |
| 22:41.04 | Simca | yeah tonight will be more revealing |
| 22:41.06 | Random | stanzilla just fyi hots is fun ^_^ |
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| 22:41.11 | Stanzilla | I know, I played it |
| 22:41.32 | nevcairiel | I've heard that its "too simple", at least from other moba players experienced with LoL or Dota2 |
| 22:41.35 | Random | yeah |
| 22:41.35 | Gnarfoz | it was wildly popular at Blizzcon, more than some of the other stuff available |
| 22:41.37 | Random | hots is casual |
| 22:41.38 | Stanzilla | agree |
| 22:41.52 | Random | as a diamond 1 players in league of legends hots is definately easy and casual |
| 22:41.55 | Gnarfoz | it's simple; "too simple" is a relative observation |
| 22:41.55 | Random | *player |
| 22:43.11 | nevcairiel | I only know Dota2, and thats far from any definiton of simple, but i'll try hots when its finished and form my own opinion then |
| 22:43.24 | Random | kd3 |
| 22:43.29 | Random | it might work out actually |
| 22:43.40 | Random | "Youre also welcome to recommend additional staff members, guild mates, streamers, PvP teammates, etc" |
| 22:43.59 | Gnarfoz | recommend away, they can still ignore the fuck out of them |
| 22:44.00 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 22:44.04 | Torhal | Random: :D |
| 22:44.06 | Random | i dunno if they will though |
| 22:44.14 | Random | they accepted all 30 people i sent with hots in the first wave |
| 22:44.28 | Random | but i think its because of the crystal keychains i sent blizzard |
| 22:51.08 | kd3 | heh, oops. an npc tagged with AV's Frostwolf Clan faction, not Draenor's Frostwolf Orcs |
| 22:56.44 | Unkle | Random: *cough* I'm a little late to respond, but I'd love to get in on the alpha. |
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| 23:07.33 | kd3 | currently-in-alpha folks: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/13076357521#1 |
| 23:09.23 | nevcairiel | really, no general chat? |
| 23:09.26 | nevcairiel | what a peaceful place! |
| 23:09.27 | Gnarfoz | kd3: you and your sensible ideas! |
| 23:13.43 | TC-Work | I'd rather be in hots than wod. |
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| 23:19.47 | Shirik | so I just realized that my phone's data works, but I can't place or receive calls |
| 23:19.58 | Shirik | I'm not even that annoyed, because that's what I really want anyway; who makes phone calls anymore |
| 23:20.37 | nevcairiel | then how did you f ind out? |
| 23:21.43 | Shirik | my mom is not with the times |
| 23:22.11 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 23:24.18 | TC-Work | Just do voip then |
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| 23:35.27 | Shirik | so apparently they had the wrong sim card number |
| 23:35.31 | Shirik | how data was working I have no idea |
| 23:35.42 | TC-Work | Because bad. |
| 23:36.26 | Shirik | lmao http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2014/06/04/feng-shui |
| 23:36.31 | Shirik | this does actually describe people in my guild |
| 23:37.11 | TC-Work | I finally hit 14 and tried out the house. Pointless shit. |
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| 23:39.03 | Cide | hi hello |
| 23:39.56 | Semlar | MiRai: making it separate from the nameplate addon would be pretty heavy if you want it to work for something other than player targets |
| 23:40.40 | Shirik | hi cide |
| 23:41.54 | Shirik | did you see lol is becoming dota 2? |
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| 23:43.03 | Shirik | welp |
| 23:43.07 | Shirik | apparently it wasn't just the sim card number |
| 23:43.13 | Shirik | now they're completely confused |
| 23:43.21 | Shirik | maybe it's apple hacking the phone to try to get me to come back |
| 23:54.14 | airtonix | stop being bad |
| 23:56.46 | Cide | Shirik: how so |
| 23:56.56 | Cide | did they introduce denies |
| 23:57.26 | Shirik | Cide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e_N4WpqH5o |
| 23:58.46 | MiRai | Semlar: Well, I was wondering if it was possible to add your animated crosshair to this universal nameplate target indicator addon? http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info21391-TargetNameplateIndicator.html |
| 23:59.20 | MiRai | the indicators seem to work universally with any nameplate |
