| 00:00.16 | Simca_ | or GetLootSlotInfo? |
| 00:00.49 | hexed | ive just been using GetLootInfo but i did see the EJ when i was searching |
| 00:01.49 | Simca_ | GetLootInfo doesn't appear to exist; it might be an alias i guess |
| 00:02.02 | Simca_ | lemme launch live WoW and see |
| 00:02.20 | hexed | ive been using it and getting results but i can try it with EJ |
| 00:02.49 | Simca_ | nah, the EJ version is probably something entirely different |
| 00:03.13 | hexed | thats what i was thinking when i found it earlier so i steered away from it |
| 00:03.27 | Simca_ | you 100% sure your addon doesn't define GetLootInfo at any point |
| 00:03.42 | Simca_ | possibly as a local definition of a global function with a slightly different name |
| 00:04.19 | hexed | yeah positive, ive been going off of the wowpedia page |
| 00:04.26 | hexed | http://wowpedia.org/API_GetItemInfo |
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| 00:04.51 | hexed | er wrong one but you get the idea |
| 00:05.40 | Simca_ | yeah; let me try a different question - what is you're trying to get the itemID from - a corpse of a mob when a player loots it? |
| 00:06.16 | hexed | yeah thats the end game i want to get to, right now im just trying to find the easiest way to get an itemid |
| 00:06.37 | hexed | i was hoping i could get it from getlootslotinfo but no dice |
| 00:08.13 | Simca_ | let me check real quick how i do it in an addon |
| 00:08.40 | Simca_ | but if you're doing it from an itemlink, you can use split to split the itemlink at ':' and the second argument will be the itemID |
| 00:09.19 | hexed | yeah i found that in the search too and bookmarked the page because i will probably use it at somepoint |
| 00:09.27 | foxlit | GetLootSlotLink returns a link. |
| 00:09.47 | Simca_ | ah yeah, that is the approach my addon uses as well |
| 00:10.04 | Simca_ | split on resulting link from GetLootSlotLink |
| 00:10.22 | hexed | ah ok thats it then |
| 00:10.23 | foxlit | and when you say split, you really mean match, or I’ll poke you with a stick. |
| 00:10.47 | Simca_ | significant performance difference or something? |
| 00:10.53 | Simca_ | because in this case split is reliable |
| 00:11.17 | foxlit | Principles; don’t order a three-course meal when all you want is the entre. |
| 00:12.11 | Simca_ | possibly |
| 00:12.53 | hexed | thats exactly what i was looking for, i knew there had to be an easier way than having an array of every item in an instance i wanted to look for items in lol |
| 00:12.59 | hexed | thanks a ton |
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| 00:13.09 | Simca_ | yep |
| 00:13.11 | Torhal | pokes foxlit with an eggplant. |
| 00:13.33 | Simca_ | foxlit: problem with princples is that they just as often produce inferior code because performance issues are so entirely arbitrary. oftentimes doing the wrong thing is faster for some super obscure reason |
| 00:13.55 | Simca_ | match may have horrible performance because of the regex, and then splitting is better even if you use 20 colons |
| 00:14.05 | airtonix | ok Torhal |
| 00:14.30 | Torhal | I don't believe you, airtonix. |
| 00:14.34 | airtonix | plz |
| 00:14.42 | TC-Work | You sound like Fisker, airtonix. |
| 00:14.44 | airtonix | gangsta |
| 00:15.00 | Simca_ | Fisker is not gangsta |
| 00:15.18 | airtonix | foshizzle manizzle |
| 00:17.17 | TC-Work | Guess it depends on how you define 'gansta'. |
| 00:17.22 | TC-Work | gangsta* |
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| 00:19.19 | foxlit | Simca_: match may have horrible performance because of the regex, and then splitting is better even if you use 20 colons << do you think that’s likely? :) |
| 00:19.41 | Simca_ | probably not |
| 00:24.28 | foxlit | http://go-hero.net/i/shadow.png << yikes. |
| 00:26.31 | Simca_ | haha that's awful |
| 00:27.15 | hexed | alright new question for the masters, how can i center text in a message frame? ive tried setpoint(CENTER) and tried moving the y cords down, but it always shows up outside the message frame, like if i do TOP its above, BOTTOM below, etc |
| 00:27.20 | foxlit | (browser magnification actually makes it look better than it does in-game in my case) |
| 00:27.28 | hexed | oh and im supplying the text by AddMessage |
| 00:28.03 | foxlit | at real PPI, it actually kills readability by essentially bluring everything. |
| 00:29.16 | foxlit | center vertically? You probably can’t. |
| 00:29.45 | hexed | well i mean i just want the text in the frame, its always either above or below it |
| 00:30.30 | foxlit | That sounds like the messageframe itself isn’t where you think it is. |
| 00:30.47 | foxlit | check your anchors. |
| 00:30.53 | hexed | k thx |
| 00:55.24 | hexed | alright now how to get a loot link hoverable/clickable in a messageframe? im using lootWindow:AddMessage(GetLootSlotLink(i)) where i is in a while loop to list all items on a corpse, im guessing maybe messageframe is the wrong frame to be using? |
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| 00:59.06 | jleclanche | both fail2ban and sshguard support systemd now |
| 00:59.08 | jleclanche | sweet stuff |
| 00:59.13 | jleclanche | I'll need a guinea pig in a minute. |
| 01:00.20 | TC-Work | I didn't like fail2ban |
| 01:02.09 | jleclanche | yeah i prefer sshguard myself |
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| 01:04.12 | TC-Work | I didn't like sshguard either, I prefered denyhosts since I was only blocking ssh |
| 01:05.51 | Simca_ | hexed: probably easier to add it to chat unless you really want it there |
| 01:07.24 | hexed | yeah i want it there, ill figure it out eventually |
| 01:18.26 | jleclanche | can someone /join #lxqt and part it immediately for a test? |
| 01:26.47 | Wobin | did I just get redirected? |
| 01:27.29 | jleclanche | ya |
| 01:27.30 | jleclanche | thanks |
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| 01:28.32 | Wobin | np |
| 01:38.30 | TC-Work | I didn't |
| 01:38.39 | TC-Work | Because I am awesome. |
| 01:41.15 | Torhal | drops TC-Work into a vat of awesomesauce. |
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| 01:42.33 | TC-Work | I think you mean into a vat of sauce....I am what makes it awesome. |
| 01:45.21 | Torhal | Hah |
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| 01:53.26 | Wobin | licks TC |
| 01:53.52 | airtonix | i once fell into sauce |
| 01:54.11 | TC-Work | expects payment |
| 01:54.37 | airtonix | it was opensauce |
| 01:55.16 | Wobin | ~rimshot |
| 01:55.16 | purl | badum-TISH! |
| 01:55.52 | airtonix | slow friday |
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| 02:22.52 | pompy | http://store.steampowered.com/app/65790/ game is up to add to your account for free for the weekend only. |
| 02:23.14 | ccox | Services down for 8 hours = head-desk. Services down for 24 hours = repeated head-wall. Services down for 40 hours = repeated Tequila-Face. |
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| 03:05.03 | Thunder_Child | ~staple Kaelten |
| 03:05.04 | purl | ACTION attaches a staple gun to a pneumatic nail gun via duct tape, staples Kaelten quite well, and hands Kaelten to thunder_child |
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| 03:11.21 | Torhal | wonders why Kaelten is being accosted on multiple channels when he hasn't even said anything. |
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| 03:11.55 | Iriel | Torhal: he’s doing the IRC hokey-pokey |
| 03:12.11 | Torhal | Ah |
| 03:12.45 | Iriel | sees 5 dc/join’s in a row |
| 03:14.06 | kd3 | heh. we're attacking mars again: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/05/16/curiosity_gouges_and_scorches_mars_with_drill_and_laser/ |
| 03:24.37 | Neffi | Completely the opposite of what I'd do with the money, but I gotta admit this is cool http://i.imgur.com/CqtSpcN.jpg |
| 03:25.22 | pompy | ~lart Torhal |
| 03:25.22 | purl | dumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on Torhal |
| 03:25.39 | Torhal | shoves pompy into a luggage case. |
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| 03:50.50 | Wobin | are those NOS tanks? =P |
| 03:51.18 | Neffi | heh |
| 03:52.04 | Neffi | From reddit: 4770k + dual R9 290X + 16 GB |
| 03:53.11 | Wobin | only 16gb? |
| 03:54.57 | Neffi | Oh wow he even got an orange Ducky Shine 3. Nice attention to detail |
| 03:55.33 | Thunder_Child | The monitors are too small. |
| 03:56.01 | Wobin | ^ |
| 03:56.22 | MiRai | ran out of budget |
| 03:56.39 | Wobin | Why is it called Ducky if the logo is a snake? |
| 03:56.49 | MiRai | year of the snake |
| 03:56.54 | MiRai | asian stuff |
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| 03:57.11 | Simca_ | the http://wowpedia.org/Patch_6.0.1/API_changes page magically found real diffs |
| 03:57.14 | Thunder_Child | I have a shine 2 personally. |
| 03:57.26 | Simca_ | (for those interested in API stuff) |
| 03:59.38 | Wobin | Thunder_Child: how do you find it? |
| 04:00.14 | Thunder_Child | Wobin: I really like it but my boss keeps bitching about how loud it is. |
| 04:00.31 | Thunder_Child | Even though he is nowhere near and my co-workers don't care. |
| 04:00.34 | MiRai | I've got two Shine 3s - one mx brown the other mx black |
| 04:00.35 | MiRai | love them both |
| 04:01.06 | Thunder_Child | i have mx red |
| 04:01.09 | Wobin | haha, yeah, I have a filco at work, and a Unicomp at home |
| 04:01.15 | Iriel | Fetishized keyboards? |
| 04:01.48 | Thunder_Child | 3-way with keyboards is a new one on me. |
| 04:01.56 | Thunder_Child | or off me |
| 04:02.01 | Wobin | how do you clean the liquids out from under the keys? |
| 04:02.34 | Thunder_Child | with care |
| 04:02.55 | Simca_ | IsPlayerMoving - that's been requested for 10 years |
| 04:03.09 | Neffi | The amount of jealousy is more than I can handle |
| 04:03.23 | Neffi | This dude with his monster setup. You guys with post-$100 keyboards all over the place D: |
| 04:03.53 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: have you found me a good 4k monitor yet? |
| 04:03.56 | Wobin | (psst claim it on tax as a business expense =)) |
| 04:04.14 | Neffi | If I could afford business expenses I probably wouldnt need to ;) |
| 04:04.31 | Simca_ | I use a Logitech K120 - $9.99 |
| 04:04.36 | MiRai | Thunder_Child: Nice (on the mx reds). I just recently moved to the linear mx blacks and I don't see myself going back to clicky/tactile anytime soon |
| 04:04.46 | Simca_ | the advantage is that after 6 months, you don't have to clean it. just throw it away and buy a new one |
| 04:04.53 | Neffi | Simca_: what's a coincidence! I use the same thing. I hate and love this keyboard |
| 04:05.02 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: Alas no. And the one from Dell is 30hz which I did not realize. |
| 04:05.09 | Neffi | On one hand it beats every other $10 keyboard. On the other, it's still a $10 keyboard |
| 04:05.12 | Iriel | I use an apple chicklet keyboard. |
| 04:05.17 | Simca_ | Neffi: so true |
| 04:05.33 | Iriel | And a logitech G15, which is getting on a bit |
| 04:06.05 | Thunder_Child | I have a G110 at home and I need to replace it. |
| 04:06.14 | MiRai | LG's new 34UM95 21:9 (3440x1440) is a pretty sexy monitor - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnrxNfxRK_4 |
| 04:06.49 | Iriel | Hm , 34” may be too big |
| 04:07.03 | Thunder_Child | heh, uengine benchmark |
| 04:07.09 | Thunder_Child | unigine* |
| 04:08.11 | Iriel | sRGB 99% is pretty weak too |
| 04:08.56 | Wobin | I <3 my g15 |
| 04:09.14 | Iriel | I like the mumble integration more than anything else I think |
| 04:09.21 | Iriel | so I dont have to mess up my screen with an overlay |
| 04:10.01 | Thunder_Child | Have more than one monitor and you do not need an overlay |
| 04:10.22 | Iriel | I dont have desk space for a 4th |
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| 04:10.47 | Thunder_Child | That's why I went up |
| 04:14.11 | Thunder_Child | MiRai: It's worrysome that even LG's own page does not list the refresh rate. |
| 04:14.33 | MiRai | it's 60Hz and 50Hz over HDMI |
| 04:14.55 | MiRai | Linus talks about it in that NCIX review |
| 04:15.13 | Thunder_Child | Except there is nothing to back it up.... |
| 04:16.26 | Thunder_Child | Oh interesting, he is saying it is a limitation of hdmi. |
| 04:16.41 | Neffi | What is? |
| 04:16.56 | Thunder_Child | 30hz on a 4k monitor |
| 04:17.02 | MiRai | http://www.lg.com/tw/monitors/lg-34UM95-P/technical-specifications |
| 04:17.19 | MiRai | second plus sign |
| 04:17.22 | MiRai | expand it |
| 04:17.25 | Neffi | Yeah, I'm guessing it's a bandwidth limitation |
| 04:17.29 | Neffi | use Displayport |
| 04:17.45 | Thunder_Child | I didn't realize this is not a 4K monitor. |
| 04:18.11 | Thunder_Child | I'm not sure 34" for 1440p is worth it. |
| 04:18.53 | MiRai | oh those aren't refresh rates -_- |
| 04:19.39 | MiRai | Well, it's ultrawide 21:9. Not the same old 2560x1440 16:9 we're typically used to. |
| 04:20.31 | Thunder_Child | I realize but I have 27" @ 1440p and if I go larger I want a higher rez. |
| 04:21.23 | MiRai | It is higher res ;) |
| 04:21.25 | Neffi | Well you do get a larger res |
| 04:21.27 | MiRai | 3440x1440 |
| 04:21.43 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 04:21.58 | Thunder_Child | You people know what I mean. |
| 04:22.28 | Neffi | I think you're confused |
| 04:22.45 | Neffi | 3440x1440 @ 34" and 2560x1440 @ 27" have the same height if my math checks out |
| 04:22.58 | Iriel | 21:9 feels like a ‘because we could’ resolution |
| 04:22.58 | Neffi | So it's not a taller monitor. Same PPI. Just wider. |
| 04:23.11 | Shirik | so a friend of mine got his picture in the paper |
| 04:23.20 | Thunder_Child | I'm not confused. |
| 04:23.23 | Shirik | and the picture makes him look like he just beat down a 5 year old kid |
| 04:23.29 | Neffi | Unless you mean it's wasted desk real estate. Then that's a valid point |
| 04:23.38 | MiRai | 21:9 is also available in 2560x1080 |
| 04:23.42 | Neffi | Shirik: did he? O.o |
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| 04:23.49 | Shirik | lol no |
| 04:23.50 | Shirik | http://www.whitesalmonenterprise.com/news/2014/may/15/phase-2-bingen-skatepark-officially-declared-compl/ |
| 04:24.04 | Neffi | haha |
| 04:24.13 | Neffi | His face says "hehe little fucker" |
| 04:27.14 | Neffi | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/05/apple-integrates-llvm-compiler-to-boost-webkit-javascript-performance/ |
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| 04:29.36 | Dagmar | I am disappointed I didn't get to kill Carver myself |
| 04:35.33 | Fisker | asdfgsfds |
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| 05:02.27 | pompy | Shirik: lol why "lol no"? |
| 05:04.01 | Wobin | pompy: because he didn't? |
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| 05:12.20 | pompy | Wobin: didnt read the stuff above that :x !! |
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| 07:37.43 | Shirik | lmao ZorbaBeta I just found the most convincing argument in the Hex vs. Magic lawsuit |
| 07:37.53 | Shirik | "They actually have ground for a legal claim. They have had a buggy client for 12 years now, and now Hex comes along with their own buggy client. Didn't they know that's Wizards thing?" |
| 07:39.42 | ZorbaBeta | hah |
| 07:39.57 | ZorbaBeta | man, if bugs count as copyright infringement, the entire programming industry is boned :V |
| 07:42.46 | Kalroth | what if the bugs allow you to interact with the software, like an API |
| 07:42.52 | Simca_ | i hope i'm wrong but I think the reason this line of code was failing for the last half hour is that blizzard enabled some sort of type verification on their API functions and does not allow implicit conversion in WoD |
| 07:54.23 | Shirik | they have actually done that before |
| 07:54.27 | Shirik | so it wouldn't be a first |
| 07:54.50 | Shirik | it's generally frowned upon in Lua but not everyone is up-to-speed with "the Lua way" of doing things |
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| 08:25.59 | Simca_ | Shirik: would make sense as to why they added conversion functions for booleans as well |
| 08:28.30 | Neffi | They don't coerce truthness of values to bool? Ugh |
| 08:29.11 | foxlit | to be fair, their old coercions had some pretty fantastical rules. |
| 08:29.21 | foxlit | if your string starts with an f, it’s false. |
| 08:29.32 | Neffi | Wait, really? wtf |
| 08:42.33 | foxlit | and perhaps one shouldn’t read too closely into what the client is doing at the moment. If you’re transitioning ~200k lines of code to a new calling convention, perhaps failing loudly when types aren’t what you expect is better. They do a similar thing with throwing FPEs in Lua code on non-Release builds. |
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| 10:20.05 | nevcairiel | yeah previous beta builds enforced some weird things and caused a lot of noise, and a bit later it went away again |
| 10:27.20 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 10:27.34 | nevcairiel | hey Fisker |
| 10:27.54 | Fisker | oh |
| 10:27.58 | Fisker | I thought this was america |
| 10:28.08 | nevcairiel | its not? |
| 10:28.11 | Fisker | I thought HOTS was a technical alpha and not practical hypetrain |
| 10:28.15 | Fisker | http://www.heroesnexus.com/news/1110-upcoming-bans-for-heroes-of-the-storm-players |
| 10:29.01 | nevcairiel | they should totally keep doing that once its launched |
| 10:29.05 | nevcairiel | i hate leavers or afkers |
| 10:29.10 | Fisker | Oh definitely |
| 10:29.14 | Fisker | But I thought it was a technical alpha |
| 10:33.07 | Maldivia | it is a tech alpha, but that doesn't mean afkers aren't ruining the experience for everyone eles |
| 10:34.30 | Fisker | Which is not the purpose of the alpha |
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| 13:29.19 | airtonix | hey nevcairiel |
| 13:29.28 | nevcairiel | wut |
| 13:29.37 | airtonix | grumbles |
| 13:31.07 | airtonix | Fisker: you wanna go afk with me? |
| 13:33.36 | airtonix | what's the benefit of going afk anyway? |
| 13:33.51 | airtonix | maybe my mind isn't geared for exploitation enough to understand this. |
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| 14:47.24 | Unkle | GOJIRA! |
| 14:47.52 | Dagmar | *shudder* |
| 14:47.54 | Dagmar | NO thanks |
| 14:48.10 | Dagmar | I'll take my chances with Gojirra |
| 14:48.23 | Dagmar | er Godzilla |
| 14:48.56 | Unkle | I'm going to see Godzilla tonight. It's crazy how much my inner 7 year old is excited about it. |
| 14:59.43 | airtonix | did you pack two pairs of pants and some nappies? |
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| 15:27.33 | airtonix | godzilla is going to turn out to be a bad movie |
| 15:28.25 | g0urra | idk man, I'm going to go see it in 3.5 hours |
| 15:28.42 | airtonix | make sure you take your xbox |
| 15:28.48 | airtonix | it could get boring |
| 15:28.56 | g0urra | 3ds* |
| 15:29.30 | airtonix | you can get xbox 3ds now? |
| 15:29.40 | airtonix | i thought they were only 2d |
| 15:31.50 | fewyn | i haven't played anything on my 3ds in awhile |
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| 15:52.43 | TC-Work | ~lart airtonix |
| 15:52.43 | purl | executes killall -KILL airtonix |
| 15:53.04 | airtonix | seems you missed TC-Work. |
| 15:53.10 | airtonix | but it was close |
| 15:53.22 | airtonix | $ sudo kill -9 airtonix |
| 15:53.57 | airtonix | do you live as root TC-Work? |
| 15:54.05 | airtonix | why would you do that? |
| 15:54.08 | TC-Work | Mor or less |
| 15:54.11 | TC-Work | More* |
| 15:54.11 | airtonix | stop doing it |
| 15:54.13 | airtonix | it's bad |
| 15:54.33 | airtonix | i know you don't want to be bad |
| 15:56.29 | Amarande | hm, advantages I'm likely to see when I return to WoW |
| 15:56.44 | Amarande | most people's UPS's only give them a few minutes, enough to finish the one thing they were doing, save, and shut down |
| 15:56.56 | Amarande | this UPS I bought ... I can probably finish the entire heroic I'm doing before having to shut down. :) |
| 16:00.11 | airtonix | what about your internet connection? |
| 16:00.36 | airtonix | wouldn't the local exchange also lose power? |
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| 16:06.54 | Mr_Rabies | really depends on the organization of the local power systems |
| 16:06.59 | Mr_Rabies | for example, we A |
| 16:07.09 | Mr_Rabies | ALWAYS lose power when it storms just about |
| 16:07.34 | Mr_Rabies | but like, none of our neighbors do past our house from one side of the road |
| 16:13.39 | Amarande | airtonix: depends, a lot of times it's just our street |
| 16:13.59 | Amarande | though really, actual outages are rarish anyway ... I bought the UPS more to handle occasional fluctuations, which are probably more damaging in the end anyway |
| 16:14.20 | Amarande | well, plus irritating as shit when the power goes out for a couple seconds and everything reboots :P |
| 16:14.46 | Mr_Rabies | my UPS lasts about...30 minutes before shutting down, though probably shorter if i'm ingame |
| 16:16.41 | airtonix | so you have your modem/router/adsl-thing on your ups too? |
| 16:17.19 | Mr_Rabies | i don't, personally, but usually if it's a half-second fluctuation i'm reconnected in wow before the heartbeat tick boots me offline |
| 16:17.40 | Mr_Rabies | if the power's actually out i assume normal shutdown procedure |
| 16:18.05 | airtonix | so yeah. Arma 3 is 40% off |
| 16:18.10 | airtonix | whoopdy do |
| 16:19.41 | Amarande | yeah, I have my cable modem, router, cable amp/splitter, monitor, and PC on the battery backup |
| 16:20.26 | Amarande | My UPS lasts ... almost 3 hours if I turn monitor and PC off and have just the network infrastructure going, think close to 2 hours if I have the monitor going also |
| 16:20.38 | Amarande | if I have the PC going but I'm just yakking in chat and not gaming it's still nearly an hour. even when gaming it's 20-30 minutes |
| 16:21.10 | Mr_Rabies | here's why i bought arma 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIOdvudSJLk (nsfw for language) |
| 16:21.10 | Amarande | so yeah, easily enough to finish a heroic LOL |
| 16:23.13 | airtonix | Mr_Rabies: isn't that altis life |
| 16:23.24 | Mr_Rabies | it seems like some of it is |
| 16:23.43 | Mr_Rabies | they do play a lot of custom map stuff |
| 16:24.26 | airtonix | common misconcepion |
| 16:24.34 | airtonix | there isn't actually many custom maps |
| 16:24.51 | Amarande | yeah, custom maps seem to be a dying thing in modern FPS :( |
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| 16:25.09 | Amarande | It's probably one of the reasons why the venerable DOOM II is still so popular |
| 16:25.35 | Mr_Rabies | well |
| 16:25.36 | Mr_Rabies | custom missions |
| 16:25.45 | Mr_Rabies | on maps as big as arma's that's not too bad |
| 16:28.49 | airtonix | <fart sounds> |
| 16:29.55 | airtonix | <farting instensifies> |
| 16:33.36 | bluspacecow | Hmmm |
| 16:33.37 | bluspacecow | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Krz-dyD-UQ |
| 16:33.44 | bluspacecow | I may watch this seires |
| 16:34.37 | Amarande | yeah, in most modern FPS making huge custom maps is a real bear |
| 16:34.45 | Amarande | that's another reason DOOM II is still so popular, I think |
| 16:35.01 | Amarande | the very limitations of the design are also what makes it possible to so readily make great custom maps |
| 16:35.11 | Mr_Rabies | i really really hope that valve makes some good mapping tools for their next project |
| 16:35.25 | Mr_Rabies | hammer is and always has been hot garbage |
| 16:35.28 | Amarande | with Quake and later, you had to start spending a lot more time fussing around with the 3D modeling aspect of things, while with DOOM II it was "draw a map!" |
| 16:36.52 | Mr_Rabies | portal 2's "map" feature thing is pretty neato |
| 16:37.00 | Mr_Rabies | they just need to expand that for their next project |
| 16:40.27 | Amarande | I think it's one of the reasons why Neverwinter Nights 2 didn't get as popular for modding as the first game, too |
| 16:40.37 | Amarande | in NWN1, everything was "drop this prefab object here like tiles" |
| 16:40.51 | Amarande | in NWN2, I think indoor areas were still this, but outdoor areas were now "oh, learn to 3d model it!" |
| 16:41.43 | Amarande | same problem with Elder Scrolls construction set, no matter how much idea you have, unless you have or hire/beg 3D talent to help you, you're not getting anything better than a super ugly mod at best |
| 16:42.54 | Amarande | well, that and NWN1 at least had time to fully mature, while NWN2 was still fairly buggy when it got cut off |
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| 17:19.01 | karl_w_w | http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/276928.php |
| 17:19.11 | karl_w_w | shit is getting cured left and right |
| 17:19.23 | airtonix | bluspacecow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BiODEobbug |
| 17:19.28 | airtonix | toenail transplant |
| 17:20.19 | airtonix | what do you think about people who go : hairuken? |
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| 17:21.24 | bluspacecow | i dunno lol |
| 17:22.34 | bluspacecow | i gonna smack you to fir and it’s only wed |
| 17:22.43 | airtonix | seriously. i want to get on my happy shoes |
| 17:22.51 | bluspacecow | oh rly |
| 17:23.07 | airtonix | yeah, your wooden leg grosses me out |
| 17:23.50 | airtonix | bluspacecow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjGk_jU6t5A |
| 17:25.18 | airtonix | damn i thought marvin was real |
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| 19:28.55 | Unkle | As if Facebook wasn't creepy/stalkery enough - http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/05/facebook-introduces-naggy-ask-function-into-profile-pages/ |
| 19:47.44 | jleclanche | oh god, OH GOD |
| 19:47.55 | jleclanche | "perl-net-github" missing |
| 19:48.00 | jleclanche | it sounded so innocuous |
| 19:48.01 | jleclanche | http://dpaste.com/04WN7FS/ |
| 19:49.33 | Gnarfoz | jleclanche: ahahahaha node-fuckity-fuck.js? |
| 19:50.01 | jleclanche | Gnarfoz: i ran yaourt -S perl-net-github --noconfirm |
| 19:50.03 | jleclanche | and then |
| 19:50.10 | jleclanche | HOLY SHIT DEPENDENCIES EVERYWHERE MAKE IT STOP |
| 19:50.25 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 19:50.30 | Unkle | perl-devel-globaldestruction |
| 19:50.49 | Gnarfoz | Unkle: sounds like regular perl |
| 19:50.51 | jleclanche | Unkle: im having second thoughts. |
| 19:55.14 | Unkle | This is particularly funny to me since in 1998-2000 I was working extensively in perl. |
| 19:55.43 | jleclanche | that explain a lot |
| 19:56.03 | Unkle | About why my brain is all fucked up? No, that's COBOL. |
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| 20:07.22 | Amarande | jleclanche: ahhh, that lovely fun of linux |
| 20:07.31 | jleclanche | more like the bullshit of perl |
| 20:07.36 | Amarande | where you need JUST ONE PACKAGE and dependencies mean next thing you're pulling half the distro ... |
| 20:07.59 | Amarande | I still remember on Debian wanting to install just one little application at one point and it told me I would need to download basically all of KDE |
| 20:08.38 | Amarande | mind you, if I ever do use Debian anytime soon I'll probably be pulling basically all of KDE |
| 20:08.43 | jleclanche | yeah this is a big problem with kde |
| 20:08.54 | jleclanche | they're fixing it in kde 5 |
| 20:08.56 | jleclanche | well, kf5 |
| 20:08.58 | Amarande | but that's more because I don't think MATE made it into the latest Debian, and Gnome 3 is lame |
| 20:09.10 | Amarande | in fact, as WoW players, we should find Gnome 3 *especially* lame |
| 20:09.26 | jleclanche | this is kwin's dependency tree on kf5 at the moment: http://dpaste.com/3GH8HG6/ |
| 20:09.45 | Amarande | *woh*. |
| 20:09.46 | jleclanche | its still way too big but it's a lot better than ALL THE THINGS |
| 20:10.14 | jleclanche | knewstuff-git will most likely be made optional, which will drop a huge chunk of it |
| 20:10.36 | jleclanche | plasma-framework will become a runtime dep |
| 20:10.43 | Amarande | main problem with gnome3: it forces you to use a 3D compositing WM because it won't work without its Mutter (actually, it has no BASIS in existence without its mom, since from what I understand, gnome3 is basically scripted IN Mutterscript of some sort ...) |
| 20:11.06 | jleclanche | though, not shown here is that theres a runtime dep on kcm which basically means ALL THE THINGS |
| 20:11.13 | Amarande | and that's bad for wow players, because as we're warned about wine and compiz, 3D compositing WMs = performance hit on wine gaming |
| 20:11.25 | Amarande | KDE still lets you pick your WM right? |
| 20:11.48 | jleclanche | i dont think you understand how compositing works |
| 20:12.13 | jleclanche | anyway, in wayland this will be a nonissue; you'll only have compositors |
| 20:12.39 | Amarande | jleclanche: yeah, I don't think it's the 'compositing' half that's the issue |
| 20:12.46 | Amarande | it's that these modern WMs want to have 3D accelerated gewgaws |
| 20:12.53 | Amarande | and 3D accelerated WM + 3D accelerated Wine game = performance hit |
| 20:13.10 | Amarande | (e.g. why you're suggested not to use compiz with wine) |
| 20:13.43 | jleclanche | this hasnt been the case in years |
| 20:13.52 | jleclanche | also, compiz hasnt even existed in years |
| 20:14.07 | Amarande | of course, OTOH, in my case we're talking about WoW on a GTX 770 ... I doubt any performance hits will be very noticeable heh |
| 20:14.47 | Amarande | at least till WoD at any rate ... any word on how much these model and graphics revamps are going to be upping the load on the GPU? |
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| 20:15.06 | ALPHATT | Hey guys |
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| 20:16.00 | ALPHATT | You know the Default blizz unitframe, there's a little background behind your name, with blue/green/yellow/red background |
| 20:16.16 | ALPHATT | What controls the color for this? |
| 20:16.20 | ALPHATT | I wnt to change it to class colors |
| 20:22.53 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6XsF9_F2yU |
| 20:22.54 | jleclanche | hahahah |
| 20:23.03 | Unkle | ALPHATT: That's probably in either UnitFrame.lua or UnitFrame.XML - You can see the extracted source at https://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/ |
| 20:24.35 | Semlar | i don't think the area behind your name is colored |
| 20:24.52 | Unkle | It might have a texture. |
| 20:25.11 | Unkle | But I wasn't going to comb through the file on his behalf. |
| 20:25.21 | Semlar | it has like the gametooltip background texture or something but i don't recall it actually being colored based on your class or anything |
| 20:26.09 | Semlar | the target frame is colored, maybe that's what they're talking about |
| 20:26.14 | Unkle | It's not. He wants to make it so. He can see where the texture is set and then write an AddOn to change the texture. |
| 20:26.40 | Semlar | well he said it was colored |
| 20:27.11 | Unkle | ... beware the Taintbeast. The claws that catch; the jaws that bite. |
| 20:27.27 | Semlar | https://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/blob/live/FrameXML/PlayerFrame.xml this is the file |
| 20:28.34 | Semlar | the entire background might be one texture though |
| 20:32.59 | ALPHATT | It is |
| 20:33.17 | ALPHATT | It does change depending on your hostility to them |
| 20:33.32 | ALPHATT | when I /fstacked it |
| 20:33.36 | ALPHATT | it just told me its the texture |
| 20:34.03 | ALPHATT | as |
| 20:34.20 | Semlar | it seems to be called PlayerFrameBackground |
| 20:34.35 | ALPHATT | Ah |
| 20:34.42 | ALPHATT | I've colored the actual healthbar before |
| 20:34.51 | ALPHATT | it seems more inutitive to color this part, since its bigger. |
| 20:35.06 | Semlar | ex. /run PlayerFrameBackground:SetTexture(1, 0, 0) |
| 20:35.16 | ALPHATT | yeah |
| 20:35.37 | ALPHATT | seems to be it |
| 20:35.43 | ALPHATT | but thats for my own frame though |
| 20:35.52 | Semlar | i knew it |
| 20:36.17 | Semlar | so you don't actually want to change it for the player |
| 20:36.28 | ALPHATT | I can but, it's not really interesting |
| 20:36.32 | ALPHATT | I know what class I am. |
| 20:36.40 | ALPHATT | Main concern is focus and target |
| 20:36.54 | Semlar | because when you asked you said the background behind "your name" |
| 20:37.06 | ALPHATT | Yeah, but I'm talking about the same space |
| 20:37.12 | ALPHATT | just on Target/Focusframe |
| 20:37.35 | ALPHATT | actually interstingly enough the player 1 is transparent wheras the target/focus shows hostility |
| 20:38.51 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:39.26 | ALPHATT | yep |
| 20:39.34 | Semlar | the other one is FocusFrame.nameBackground |
| 20:39.36 | ALPHATT | Iyeah |
| 20:39.39 | ALPHATT | thanks man |
| 20:40.13 | Semlar | and you're going to have to change it after it gets changed by the ui so it doesn't just get overwritten |
| 20:40.25 | Semlar | either that or put your own texture over it |
| 20:41.24 | airtonix | running through altis, with "what is love" blasting over direct |
| 20:41.32 | ALPHATT | yeah I actuallya alrerad noticed that |
| 20:41.34 | ALPHATT | thanks |
| 20:41.49 | ALPHATT | already |
| 20:43.31 | airtonix | Mr_Rabies: baby don't hurt me |
| 20:43.47 | Mr_Rabies | wat |
| 20:43.55 | ALPHATT | no more |
| 20:45.40 | airtonix | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae_XpchLgq4 |
| 20:46.39 | airtonix | probably the first frankie video i've seen so far where he doesn't cut to a conspicously advantagous encounter |
| 20:47.21 | airtonix | "Hey i'm a youtuber, if you give me all this gear i'll make your server famous"... |
| 20:47.38 | airtonix | 'Hey. no. you can find gear just like every other player" |
| 20:47.47 | airtonix | <crying intensifies> |
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| 20:56.16 | Neffi | haha https://i.imgur.com/4S7w023.jpg |
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| 21:03.21 | karl_w_w | hodor |
| 21:06.49 | airtonix | you want to play elder scrolls singleplayer online? |
| 21:08.14 | airtonix | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov3B26h12C4 |
| 21:21.19 | airtonix | lol star wars kinect |
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| 21:30.56 | jleclanche | Unkle: you said you're decent with perl? |
| 21:31.45 | Unkle | I'm rusty as hell. But I know the language. |
| 21:31.55 | Unkle | (I last actively used it in 2001) |
| 21:32.07 | jleclanche | yeah this script probably hasnt been updated since before i was born |
| 21:32.09 | jleclanche | https://github.com/rowanj/BugzillaMigrate/blob/master/bzmigrate.pl#L138 |
| 21:32.35 | jleclanche | it takes an xml file full of <bug></bug> as input |
| 21:32.57 | jleclanche | on line 135 it iterates over every bug from what i gather, array built on 125 |
| 21:33.40 | jleclanche | but when I run it, it gives me: Not a HASH reference at bzmigrate.pl line 138. |
| 21:34.07 | jleclanche | Looking at Dumper($bug), that looks to be an array containing ALL the bugs, which doesn't make sense, it should only contain one bug, right? |
| 21:36.03 | Unkle | This is supposed to migrate from Bugzilla to something else? |
| 21:36.56 | jleclanche | yea |
| 21:37.37 | Semlar | all the bugs! |
| 21:37.38 | Unkle | I think you're interpreting it correctly. but maybe your array isn't being populated? |
| 21:38.33 | jleclanche | its populated all right |
| 21:38.42 | jleclanche | i have 3187 bugs |
| 21:39.05 | jleclanche | i checked the xml file it's valid |
| 21:41.53 | Unkle | Yeah, looking over stuff. Give me a few. |
| 21:42.43 | Amarande | jleclanche: good grief, even Silithus doesn't have that many at a time :( |
| 21:42.57 | jleclanche | i told you Amarande you gotta stop the wow metaphors |
| 21:43.28 | Gnarfoz | s/the wow metaphors// |
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| 21:44.05 | jleclanche | Unkle: $bug seems to be a list of bugs, which doesnt make sense. this is what its keys look like: https://mediacru.sh/lEn8orvwLkdj.png |
| 21:48.59 | Unkle | in your XML export from Bugzilla, is there something funny about the entry after 2915? |
| 21:50.17 | jleclanche | not that I can see |
| 21:51.02 | jleclanche | now you mention it though |
| 21:53.06 | jleclanche | no, nothing funny |
| 21:53.12 | Unkle | Bah. |
| 21:55.36 | Unkle | Sorry - work intruding. |
| 21:55.54 | jleclanche | Unkle: its nothing to do with 2915 though its just the buffer not being flushed |
| 21:56.03 | jleclanche | it dies on the first one |
| 21:56.43 | jleclanche | so $bug does contain every bug, but it should only contain one, so wtf |
| 21:58.40 | Unkle | Looks like an input problem then. Can you run it with an XML file that has only one item in it? Does it run cleanly then? |
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| 22:03.37 | adys | Unkle: looks fine with just one item in the thingy |
| 22:03.42 | jleclanche | so could indeed be an input problem |
| 22:03.52 | jleclanche | also, the keys are fine with just one item |
| 22:03.53 | jleclanche | hmm |
| 22:04.14 | Unkle | So, you have a little bobby tables problem... |
| 22:04.44 | jleclanche | this shit works fine in python |
| 22:06.55 | jleclanche | Unkle: this just uses XML::Simple to read the whole thing |
| 22:07.24 | jleclanche | god damn it 3k bugs isnt even that much |
| 22:09.17 | Unkle | jleclanche: Yeah, it looks like there's not a lot of error-checking/handling for inputs. *shrug* I can't really tell more from here about what's wrong since a) I don't use bugzilla, b) I don't use github, c) I haven't done this in years and I don't even have perl installed. |
| 22:09.37 | jleclanche | on the plus side, that script works really well |
| 22:09.38 | jleclanche | https://github.com/jleclanche/bugs-test/issues/1 |
| 22:10.49 | Unkle | That output looks nice. |
| 22:11.13 | Unkle | And on that note, I'm off to go watch Kaiju send us back to the stone age. |
| 22:18.20 | airtonix | take xbox. movie will suck. |
| 22:21.06 | jleclanche | fml |
| 22:24.25 | jleclanche | this isn't even an input issue, i sanitized it with minidom. fuck knows if this could be memory issues or something |
| 22:26.25 | Simca_ | When blizz says they're making it so that those CVars can't be changed in combat - can they still be changed if the function is in response to a hardware event? |
| 22:27.05 | kd3 | that'd be a good thing to ask in the thread. I'd assume if they meant that they'd mention hw events rather than "protected" |
| 22:29.42 | plaw | http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/220826/i-joined-tinder-as-a-dog/ |
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| 22:42.57 | airtonix | On the internet no one knows i'm a cat. |
| 22:43.52 | Neffi | Really? Was that you in my dream? |
| 22:44.32 | Neffi | I held a lengthy conversation with a cat. Even pausing my dream to shut the alarm clock up so I could continue to chat with him |
| 22:45.02 | airtonix | best dream. 11/10. would knock self out again. |
| 22:45.25 | Neffi | It was kinda cool. But I had the feeling that the conversation was really significant and I cant recall wtf we talked about |
| 22:48.13 | Mr_Rabies | was she a british cat |
| 22:48.25 | Mr_Rabies | because you might have been playing dark souls II in your sleep |
| 22:48.29 | Mr_Rabies | i know i have been |
| 22:48.50 | airtonix | i've seen quite a few cats in my time |
| 22:49.01 | Neffi | I dont know if I'm capable of projecting a British accent in my dreams |
| 22:49.12 | Mr_Rabies | that reminds me |
| 22:49.17 | Mr_Rabies | some people say you can't read in dreams |
| 22:49.34 | Mr_Rabies | but i have, several times, to the point that i commented on that exact thing in a lucid dream once |
| 22:50.10 | Mr_Rabies | here you go, Neffi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy9TfN24vW8 |
| 22:50.11 | Mr_Rabies | hth |
| 22:50.46 | Neffi | Mr_Rabies: you linked that to me the other day. That might be the reason behind the dream |
| 22:50.49 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 22:50.52 | Mr_Rabies | could be |
| 22:51.21 | Mr_Rabies | i like how my youtube history was broken for so long it suddenly barfed all the videos i watched on my xbox into my history overnight |
| 22:54.48 | VIad | parsed replay data for dota 2 prelims, 78 replays, got a better overview of what heroes are picked, banned and in overall what heroes are on the radar :P |
| 22:55.31 | VIad | http://junk.bool.no/dota2_ti2014prelims_78matches.pdf |
| 22:57.30 | VIad | gonna try to make it detect first bloods and such later to get more data for the predictions :p |
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