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| 08:51.39 | Fisker | java religion of peace |
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| 09:25.08 | Fisker | slaps Cairenn around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:48.59 | jnwhiteh | mikma: did we know that Syracuse is a twin city with Tampere? |
| 09:51.18 | mikma | jnwhiteh: i've heard something ages ago about twin city but not known what the hell the thing was ;) |
| 09:51.35 | jnwhiteh | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_twin_towns_and_sister_cities |
| 09:52.39 | mikma | yet i still wonder what's the whole idea behind that pairing |
| 09:52.48 | zenzelezz | was about to say the same |
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| 12:08.21 | airtonix | atom might be ready to replace sublimetext |
| 12:11.19 | Fisker | download for mac |
| 12:11.20 | Fisker | I lol'd |
| 12:11.41 | Fisker | Did they just take sublime and copy it? |
| 12:11.46 | Fisker | Sublime should sue |
| 12:11.46 | airtonix | it's just a nodejs application |
| 12:12.02 | airtonix | npm install && ./scripts/build makedeb |
| 12:12.48 | airtonix | yeah that one guy who makes sublimetext should totally sue |
| 12:14.27 | airtonix | eh it's not ready yet. still crashes |
| 12:15.57 | Alram | it still chokes sometimes on large files |
| 12:16.03 | Alram | so sublime for now |
| 12:16.23 | airtonix | yeah i don't entirely feel comfortable about the fact that it's wrapped in chrome |
| 12:16.37 | Alram | all that dom syntax highlighting :3 |
| 12:16.40 | airtonix | or webkit |
| 12:19.53 | Fisker | At least they didn't steal the png animation airtonix |
| 12:20.05 | airtonix | i'm not familiar with that |
| 12:34.26 | karl_w_w | microwaves airtonix |
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| 12:59.58 | airtonix | are you sure you're licensed to operate that karl_w_w? |
| 13:00.06 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 13:00.55 | karl_w_w | somebody tell me what the best madvr upscaling settings are best |
| 13:01.26 | airtonix | 2.3 |
| 13:05.45 | Wobin | I'm unsure if it replaces ST |
| 13:05.58 | Wobin | or at least until it can translate ST packages =) |
| 13:09.17 | airtonix | you're off topic Wobin |
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| 13:29.10 | karl_w_w | http://www.rjtco.co.uk/servimage/topic.jpg this should help airtonix |
| 13:38.39 | airtonix | 404 karl_w_w |
| 13:39.01 | karl_w_w | not for me! |
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| 13:46.06 | airtonix | maybe something is broken on your computer then |
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| 14:10.09 | karl_w_w | must be |
| 14:19.53 | Kesava | Stanzilla: i have a diff patch for you to test |
| 14:27.44 | Kesava | (Stanzilla: https://gist.github.com/rbtwrrr/7c99fe713571cb09a57d) |
| 14:28.05 | Stanzilla | will test |
| 14:28.28 | Kesava | tyty |
| 14:38.35 | jleclanche | <nevcairiel> the fact that wine needs fixes for practically every new game already shows how much of an uphill battle it is and how incomplete wine really is |
| 14:38.39 | jleclanche | its getting there though |
| 14:38.57 | jleclanche | it may not look like it to outside users but more and more apps work on wine out of the box |
| 14:39.02 | jleclanche | the ones that dont use very recent APIs |
| 14:39.18 | jleclanche | the thing is |
| 14:39.39 | jleclanche | right now, Wine is right about $500k away from having feature-complete Direct3d support up to dx12 |
| 14:40.13 | jleclanche | as for the rest of the windows apps, it doesnt matter as much as it looks |
| 14:40.23 | jleclanche | windows 7 apis are easy. metro apis are mostly unused |
| 14:40.48 | jleclanche | its only uphill in the directx area |
| 14:41.01 | jleclanche | this is definitely a problem money can solve, though. |
| 14:41.49 | Kesava | (unless developers port to opengl) |
| 14:41.59 | Kesava | which they already are doing if they make mac versions |
| 14:42.02 | jleclanche | yes, this will start happening more and more |
| 14:42.03 | Kesava | developers are silly |
| 14:42.29 | jleclanche | basically what Im saying is that theres a very bright light at the end of the tunnel |
| 14:42.29 | airtonix | calling them developers is a joke |
| 14:42.43 | Kesava | idd |
| 14:43.20 | Stanzilla | jleclanche: only because more game engines get native linux support |
| 14:43.22 | Stanzilla | not because of wine :p |
| 14:43.28 | Fisker | Hey Stanzilla |
| 14:43.33 | jleclanche | Stanzilla: whats only because that? |
| 14:43.54 | Stanzilla | the bright light |
| 14:44.34 | Fisker | don't go into the light Stanzilla |
| 14:44.56 | nevcairiel | jleclanche: even d3d9 needs fixes stll all the time, and they've been on that for years. 500k may cover the initial implementation, but won't really change the overall situation of it not being 100% complete and compliant |
| 14:45.15 | jleclanche | you dont need 100% compliance |
| 14:45.54 | jleclanche | you need 97% or so and the remaining 3% is minor graphics issues or obscure bugs that pop up once in a while |
| 14:45.59 | jleclanche | stuff gamers dont really care about |
| 14:46.47 | nevcairiel | i'm currently investigating to use wined3d to power a d3d userinterface on linux and mac, i wonder how many pits i fall into along the way |
| 14:46.59 | zenzelezz | of the obscure bugs, do you suppose any are things that the video card drivers on Windows hack around? I'm always surprised drivers seem to give special treatment |
| 14:47.53 | jleclanche | yes, huge amounts |
| 14:48.14 | jleclanche | ive seen dozens of examples through my passive wine work alone |
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| 15:13.11 | zenzelezz | "the [...] was very similar to similar designs" - well how about that |
| 15:13.22 | Fisker | wow jleclanche |
| 15:15.01 | karl_w_w | or you could just use windows and save yourself the hassle |
| 15:15.07 | karl_w_w | airtonix agrees |
| 15:15.28 | karl_w_w | you people aren't jaded/lazy enough :P |
| 15:15.34 | airtonix | true progress was not had on the arm of a chair |
| 15:15.51 | airtonix | i mean look at Israel |
| 15:16.03 | airtonix | you think they bought that country with oreos |
| 15:16.22 | airtonix | no sir, they sacrificed the blood of brothers and sisters |
| 15:16.33 | airtonix | you want games on linux. it takes dedication |
| 15:16.57 | airtonix | what kind of gamer are you to simply give up |
| 15:21.31 | Kesava | Stanzilla: ok i'm pretty sure i found the problem, assumed unique UUIDs were being restored -before- the name was ever updated. silly me. |
| 15:21.56 | Stanzilla | hah |
| 15:22.01 | Stanzilla | I just joined LFR to test |
| 15:22.08 | Kesava | oh well that patch is fucked up |
| 15:22.13 | Kesava | i'll post another in a sec |
| 15:22.14 | Stanzilla | good to know! |
| 15:23.59 | Kesava | here you go: https://gist.github.com/rbtwrrr/816b62383ea6a629c38f |
| 15:24.10 | Kesava | though you'll need to revert it in order for that to apply properly |
| 15:24.16 | Kesava | but i'm pretty certain it'll work now |
| 15:24.18 | Stanzilla | already did that |
| 15:24.21 | Kesava | good good |
| 15:24.56 | Kesava | oh i accidentally left debug mode on |
| 15:25.00 | Kesava | you might want to change that to false |
| 15:26.20 | Stanzilla | ok |
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| 15:27.21 | Kesava | oh god there's another bug with that patch |
| 15:28.13 | Stanzilla | oh god! |
| 15:28.44 | Kesava | ok this one: https://gist.github.com/rbtwrrr/62071cf357e967ea71e6 |
| 15:28.46 | Kesava | definitely works. |
| 15:28.58 | Kesava | i am terrible |
| 15:30.29 | Kesava | by the way sometimes auras will stick around on other frames by design, if you're not targeting them and the aura is extended, it'll tick to 0 but stay up until it actually falls off |
| 15:30.38 | Kesava | since i can't get the time unless you're targeting/mousing over etc |
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| 15:31.12 | Stanzilla | when it bugged for me it was the boss and it stayed forever |
| 15:31.17 | Stanzilla | like, I waited 30s |
| 15:31.42 | Kesava | ah. well, yeah, that was probably because of the uuid thing |
| 15:31.45 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 15:32.00 | Stanzilla | do you use the boss1-5 tokens to watch for debuffs btw? |
| 15:32.25 | Kesava | if UNIT_AURA fires for it, I use it |
| 15:32.33 | Kesava | just as long as the uuid is known |
| 15:34.08 | Stanzilla | ok |
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| 15:42.59 | Stanzilla | I ended up in a roleplaying LFR |
| 15:43.00 | Stanzilla | oh god |
| 15:57.21 | airtonix | you loved it |
| 15:57.30 | airtonix | i can tell from the moistness |
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| 16:42.44 | Stanzilla | Kesava: did the custom coloring work for you with that patch? |
| 16:45.30 | Stanzilla | oh |
| 16:45.31 | Stanzilla | nvm |
| 16:45.48 | Stanzilla | or not |
| 16:45.52 | Stanzilla | is confused |
| 16:49.26 | Stanzilla | Kesava: nope does not work |
| 16:53.04 | Kesava | Stanzilla: one of them messed it up |
| 16:53.08 | Kesava | that latest one should work |
| 16:54.01 | Kesava | and it does for me |
| 16:55.03 | Kesava | as well as it ever did, at least.. i.e. not if you're tanking |
| 16:55.55 | Stanzilla | ah well that could have been the case, I was soloing something |
| 17:01.58 | Stanzilla | TIL: immerseus nameplate is hard to see |
| 17:05.28 | Kesava | yup |
| 17:08.34 | Stanzilla | Kesava: https://mediacru.sh/8m-DL_P-I7Qw.png |
| 17:08.36 | Stanzilla | nope :( |
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| 17:54.27 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/nlLuKkL.png Shirik |
| 17:55.09 | karl_w_w | 3.35m now |
| 17:55.17 | karl_w_w | M* |
| 18:06.02 | airtonix | you can't do much with a 3.35mm round |
| 18:06.21 | airtonix | i suppose you could instigate vehicle insurance scams |
| 18:18.35 | Kesava | Stanzilla: does they start the fight neutral? |
| 18:18.41 | Kesava | (i can't remember) |
| 18:18.44 | Kesava | does they. |
| 18:21.37 | zenzelezz | neat picture... http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/05/could-disney-finally-give-us-the-remastered-unedited-star-wars-we-want/ |
| 18:24.10 | Stanzilla | Kesava: no |
| 18:24.51 | Kesava | well that narrows it down at least |
| 18:25.13 | Kesava | i'm happy with the sequence it takes to colour the health bar now, it should be pretty stable |
| 18:25.26 | Kesava | it's just it kinda wasn't built to support custom changes |
| 18:25.45 | Kesava | however i may have a solution for you, just trying to get an lfr |
| 18:26.17 | Kesava | i really ought to work on the rewrite. |
| 18:27.37 | Stanzilla | ok |
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| 19:22.14 | Kesava | Stanzilla: https://github.com/rbtwrrr/Kui_Nameplates-Customs/blob/master/custom.barcolours.lua |
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| 20:37.38 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: you owe me $203 now |
| 20:53.18 | plaw | hmmm wonder if those four holes above the chip with the red hightlight, down the lower right, are jtag outs http://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/5jjgnXP2nLVWcx6j.huge |
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| 20:56.29 | Arrowmaster | whats the board for? |
| 20:57.00 | Gnarfoz | S5, probably |
| 20:57.15 | Gnarfoz | (red chip is a Samsung chip, doubt he's interested in an older model) |
| 20:57.51 | Gnarfoz | oh it's actually the Samsung Gear 2 |
| 20:58.05 | Gnarfoz | so that board is quite a bit smaller than I assumed |
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| 21:24.50 | plaw | Arrowmaster: Gear 2 watch |
| 21:25.20 | plaw | looks likely those ain't serial/jtag, but the headers a bit to the left of them probably are |
| 21:25.38 | plaw | ah Gnarfoz++ |
| 21:26.07 | plaw | apparently it's a very easy teardown http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Gear+2+Teardown/23990 |
| 21:26.18 | plaw | sammy did the source code drop last friday so I'm hmmmmm |
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| 21:59.56 | Primer | Kinda wish there was a macro abbreviation for /cancelaura |
| 22:00.14 | Primer | My all-in-one cancelaura macro is too big now |
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| 22:38.23 | Arrowmaster | ok i have 2 blizzcon tickets left |
| 22:41.19 | Primer | How much? |
| 22:41.27 | Amarande | btw, why the foxtrot don't the virtual tickets get announced at the same price as the real ones? |
| 22:41.39 | Arrowmaster | $203 |
| 22:41.46 | Amarande | I think people kinda know whether they have a ghost of a chance of even getting the real ones and thus would like to start considering the virtual at the same time :) |
| 22:41.48 | Primer | really? |
| 22:42.00 | Primer | To think people want to go to that that badly |
| 22:42.17 | Arrowmaster | thats nothing compared to the hotel and airfare costs |
| 22:42.33 | Primer | which would be $0 for me, as it's a 20 minute drive |
| 22:42.42 | Primer | presuming it's still in Anaheim |
| 22:42.44 | Arrowmaster | and the alcohol costs, hotel bars are a ripoff |
| 22:42.45 | Amarande | Like, do they really think that people who actually have a chance of going to Blizzcon in person would buy the Virtual Ticket instead and cost them sales if they went up at the same time? LOL |
| 22:42.53 | Primer | I don't drink alcohol |
| 22:43.13 | Amarande | Really, how many folks who actually could realistically go to Blizzcon one year and have all the stars align to actually let them, would pass it up? :P |
| 22:43.28 | Arrowmaster | curse had a $100k bar tab after a party one year |
| 22:43.35 | Primer | Not that I'm prudish or anything...I just don't like the buzz or taste |
| 22:44.15 | Arrowmaster | i dont drink cheap beer, no taste for it |
| 22:44.18 | Amarande | Arrowmaster: heh, that sounds like it could be Curse's largest expense for the entire year except for perhaps web hosting :p |
| 22:44.36 | Arrowmaster | doubtful |
| 22:45.05 | Unkle | Arrowmaster: Well, naturally - but there's at least 4 places to buy booze within walking distance of the event and several other bars/restaurants with bar service nearby. |
| 22:45.22 | Amarande | yeah, how many people at cons actually buy a significant amount of hotel bar liquor |
| 22:45.33 | Arrowmaster | Unkle: dont forget the delivery liquor store we found out about |
| 22:45.51 | Unkle | Arrowmaster: I know, right? BOOZE - Delivered. It's like magic. |
| 22:46.05 | Amarande | mind you, at DragonCon at least I would always see a fairly significantly sized crowd around the hotel bars |
| 22:46.19 | Unkle | Amarande: Um, this crowd? I know I spent like $300 in hotel bars last year. |
| 22:46.21 | Amarande | but I'm not sure how many those actually are as a % of actual attendance in the end :) pretty sure the package stores make more money |
| 22:46.25 | Arrowmaster | speaking of booze delivered, what would it cost me to get a bottle of wine from you for a friend |
| 22:46.52 | Unkle | Arrowmaster: If you want to get it from me specifically as a favor to a friend? |
| 22:47.01 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 22:47.25 | Unkle | The retail cost of the wine and the shipping. The shipping is probably the scariest part. |
| 22:48.21 | Arrowmaster | you mentioned last year you had access to some of the good stuff the vineyard wasnt heavily pushing to distributors right? |
| 22:48.41 | Unkle | The company doesn't really do orders of less than 6 bottles, but I can hook you up. You can estimate $80 for the wine, and then about $65+ for shipping depending. |
| 22:48.51 | Arrowmaster | ouch |
| 22:48.59 | Arrowmaster | maybe for christmas |
| 22:49.03 | Unkle | Shipping booze is pricey. It's heavy. |
| 22:49.13 | Unkle | And has all kinds of taxes and fees on it. |
| 22:49.18 | Dagmar | ...and in some states, fucking illegal. |
| 22:49.24 | Unkle | Yeah. |
| 22:49.25 | Dagmar | !@#!@#@ Tennesee |
| 22:49.47 | Arrowmaster | im in ohio, everything has to be approved by the state liquor board to be sold locally |
| 22:49.54 | Unkle | I can bring some to BlizzCon (I brought a case last year - a bunch for a friend in LA and more to get bombed on) |
| 22:50.04 | Unkle | Ohio is a funky place to ship to. |
| 22:50.24 | Amarande | Yeah, I'm not even at all sure what the rules are here |
| 22:50.43 | Amarande | I'm foggily recalling something about Connecticut not being happy with it, but I also am not seeing verbiage on online package stores that says, "we don't ship to CT" |
| 22:51.02 | Amarande | so I guess either it's legal now or the stores ignore the law :S |
| 22:52.16 | Arrowmaster | Unkle: whats the vineyards name again? was going to see if they have any locally even though i doubt it |
| 22:52.29 | Unkle | The company has a license to ship to everywhere it's legal to directly ship to consumer, and we have legal arrangements for everywhere else where you have to ship to a middle-man or state thing. But TN and OK and one or two other places it's just a no-go. |
| 22:52.44 | Unkle | Kistler Vineyards. |
| 22:53.01 | Unkle | I can look up our distributor in OH |
| 22:53.05 | Arrowmaster | i was thinking kestril for some reason |
| 22:54.08 | Unkle | Call a company named Wine Trends, Inc. in OH. They can direct you to a retailer near you who might have our wines. |
| 22:54.47 | Unkle | Though, if they do, expect it to be very expensive and hard to get. |
| 22:54.51 | Arrowmaster | checked the sites for the two main stores i know of, one has a terrible site and the other doesnt have any resutls in their search |
| 22:56.14 | Unkle | If you want to do it for christmas, I can bring some to BlizzCon and you can carry it with you. |
| 22:56.26 | Amarande | it sounds like what liquor really needs is a good deregulation :) |
| 22:56.33 | Unkle | Save yourself the shipping - mostly. |
| 22:56.36 | Arrowmaster | that sounds like a better idea |
| 22:57.03 | Arrowmaster | these girls usually just drink the cheap stuff though and can go though a bottle a night |
| 22:57.58 | Arrowmaster | figured it might be nice to get a bottle of something more expensive for a gift |
| 22:58.14 | Unkle | Well, a single 750ml bottle is about 4-5 glasses of wine. Which isn't much for 2 people. And if they're the "franzia" crowd, this stuff will be like me teaching your to drink top-shelf scotch. |
| 22:58.31 | Amarande | mind you, I suppose the fun thing about heavy regulation of liquor is that the rules can be enough to ... you guessed it :) which might be a sales booster! LOL |
| 22:58.35 | Arrowmaster | i still havent touched the bottle of $75 scotch i bought |
| 22:59.15 | Unkle | Arrowmaster: Our wines start at $80/bottle and range up to $180/bottle. |
| 23:00.10 | Arrowmaster | yeah i know some people say wine is wine but if you recommend it then it sounds like a good bet |
| 23:00.38 | Amarande | Arrowmaster: $75? Better be Glenfiddich? |
| 23:00.41 | Unkle | I wasn't really a wine guy until I moved here. I've learned a lot in the last 18 months. |
| 23:01.02 | Amarande | I usually only buy wine around the holidays ... Beer, occasionally. Mostly hard liquor, though. |
| 23:01.10 | Kodiack | $80/bottle for wine? No thank you. This $7 bottle of wine works for me :D |
| 23:01.19 | Arrowmaster | Amarande: http://www.masterofmalt.com/whiskies/laphroaig/laphroaig-feis-ile-2013-cairdeas-port-wood-edition-whisky/ |
| 23:01.41 | Unkle | Amarande: He's getting off light. |
| 23:01.54 | Arrowmaster | i got two bottles for $75 each at a store that had 4 bottles left |
| 23:02.02 | Arrowmaster | online its a hell of a lot more expensive |
| 23:02.41 | Arrowmaster | Unkle: should i bring that to blizzcon? |
| 23:04.11 | Unkle | Arrowmaster: I will happily drink your expensive scotch. |
| 23:04.55 | Amarande | I rarely feel a significant desire for the expensive in liquor, though ... unless it's tequila |
| 23:05.00 | Amarande | Tequila has got to be Don Julio |
| 23:05.12 | Unkle | Speaking of BlizzCon... I'm going to be looking for someone to split a hotel with. |
| 23:06.09 | Arrowmaster | i got a room at the clarion |
| 23:06.23 | Arrowmaster | no roommate yet |
| 23:07.12 | Unkle | Where's the Clarion? |
| 23:07.20 | Arrowmaster | next to marriot |
| 23:07.59 | Arrowmaster | which is booked because everybody knows its the place to be now |
| 23:08.27 | Amarande | that's because Marriotts are generally win and awesome |
| 23:08.39 | Amarande | if I ever go back to DragonCon, it's got to be the Marriott |
| 23:09.06 | Amarande | the only problem is that their elevators (at least in Atlanta) can't max-out, so you get stuck stopping every floor to wave sorry to the people who can't get in :P |
| 23:09.40 | Amarande | (the Hyatt elevators get just as full but they actually manage to max out the weight, at which point the elevator won't stop anymore to pick people up, only at floors requested from inside) |
| 23:10.59 | Amarande | I mean, they DO have a weight limit, but it's impossible to reach in any practical sense |
| 23:11.30 | Amarande | Hmmm, November 7-8. I'm guessing that means late Novemberish for WoD, then |
| 23:15.28 | g0urra | yeah, I don't get why people expect WoD to come out before blizzcon |
| 23:15.44 | g0urra | people would be too busy leveling/raiding to go |
| 23:16.12 | Amarande | g0urra: yeah, that's what I was thinking, they basically never want to release an expansion before having a chance to toot its horn at blizzcon |
| 23:16.20 | Amarande | so that sets the early bound, then |
| 23:16.36 | Amarande | it's already known the latest bound is around Dec 13-20, but the early bound seemed to be fuzzier |
| 23:17.53 | Amarande | I doubt they worry about attendance for blizzcon, though ... it's generally as safe a sellout as a Yankees-Red Sox game |
| 23:18.48 | Amarande | as for virtual ticket sales, I'm sure the hardcore folks take the weekend off raiding to watch the stream anyway, too :) |
| 23:18.58 | Unkle | I don't know. If the price of the ticket keeps going up, I might have to stop going. |
| 23:19.06 | Amarande | (besides, are weekends even really that common of nights for raiding? they're awfully late in the reset cycle) |
| 23:20.06 | Amarande | but yeah, I think it's more about that blizzcon lets them toot the expansion's horn one big last time, so I doubt they'd release it before then :) |
| 23:24.04 | Amarande | yeah, I stopped going to DragonCon because it got too expensive |
| 23:24.42 | Amarande | the group I used to do a room sharing deal with stopped having the deal (too hard to get enough rooms anymore the way the hotel booking is ...) so now it's 1100+ for just hotel room for 5 nights |
| 23:25.21 | Unkle | I used to go to DragonCon in the 90s, but ... well, the last time I went, CoolWorld was tanking in theaters. |
| 23:36.47 | g0urra | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJyOOsvWTTE |
| 23:45.06 | Amarande | I went from 2007 to 2012 |
