| 00:00.10 | Amarande | and someone forgets exactly what ridiculous parkour was used to skip that trash earlier |
| 00:00.18 | Amarande | or misses the jump, or ... :P |
| 00:00.22 | Mr_Rabies | the group can't wipe on a boss |
| 00:00.29 | Mr_Rabies | i basically solo the place as is |
| 00:00.43 | Amarande | but hey, at least it's not like what happens when you wipe in sw:tor heh |
| 00:01.15 | Amarande | wipes in sw:tor are not pretty, especially when it's a non-instanced group subzone (instanced ones are much more tolerable because instance mobs never respawn in sw:tor) |
| 00:02.24 | Amarande | mind you that will never be an issue in WoW anyway unless it goes free-to-play, though |
| 00:07.45 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36216 |
| 00:24.27 | airtonix | hey karl_w_w: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv4RIhMpV40#t=68 |
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| 01:07.22 | karl_w_w | that's not true airtonix |
| 01:10.50 | pompy | Ackis, Ressy. Cairenn: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/05/01/rob-ford-to-take-a-leave-after-another-alleged-crack-smoking-video-emerges/ |
| 01:11.04 | Cairenn | offs |
| 01:12.32 | alestane | Oh yes, I was noticing earlier that Rob Ford is being his usual self. |
| 01:17.33 | Shirik | pompy / Cairenn http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8ZkspiShR4 |
| 01:17.35 | Shirik | totally relevant |
| 01:18.21 | Cairenn | lol |
| 01:21.17 | pompy | haha |
| 01:22.47 | Primer | jleclanche: Hearthstone still working here |
| 01:22.55 | jleclanche | Primer: wine version? |
| 01:23.00 | Primer | wine-1.7.17 |
| 01:23.11 | jleclanche | hm... |
| 01:23.15 | jleclanche | could be a recent regression |
| 01:23.34 | Primer | I did have to apply that one mvcp100.dll hack to get it to work in the first place |
| 01:23.52 | Primer | but it hasn't stopped working since then |
| 01:23.59 | Primer | of course, all I did so far was fire it up |
| 01:24.35 | Primer | let me try firing up a match over the internet |
| 01:24.42 | Ressy | pompy: Old news. That all came out 24 hrs ago. |
| 01:24.58 | A-KO | sup Ressy |
| 01:25.05 | Ressy | Just woke. |
| 01:25.10 | Primer | spinner is spinning... |
| 01:25.13 | jleclanche | Primer: its an issue on login so |
| 01:25.40 | Primer | I'm playing |
| 01:26.12 | A-KO | so I totally fangasmed out today Ressy lol |
| 01:26.15 | A-KO | My trip was just made |
| 01:26.29 | A-KO | Lindsey. Freaking. Stirling. sitting a table away from me in a pizza place |
| 01:26.34 | A-KO | in NYC |
| 01:28.08 | A-KO | okay I'm getting up to go walk a bit |
| 01:28.23 | Ressy | Imma just say cool and pretend I know who you're talking about. :P |
| 01:29.29 | A-KO | You should youtube her |
| 01:29.31 | pompy | she's 16 ? |
| 01:29.35 | Ressy | ooooh. Her |
| 01:29.44 | jleclanche | A-KO: I'm jealous |
| 01:29.47 | Ressy | I remember that pentonix thing she did.. radioactive dragons |
| 01:29.52 | A-KO | yeah Ressy |
| 01:30.01 | jleclanche | A-KO: that said, you're in NYC, thats enough to make me not want to be you |
| 01:30.08 | Ressy | lol |
| 01:30.17 | A-KO | jleclanche: I tweeted to her, I was like "Hey, there's this girl that looks JUST like you in this pizza place!" then I saw her tweets that she was in NYC...and I'm like "OMFG IT'S HER" |
| 01:30.18 | A-KO | lol |
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| 01:30.28 | A-KO | didn't ask for a pic though |
| 01:30.31 | A-KO | I'm not that kind of person |
| 01:30.33 | A-KO | but was cool |
| 01:30.35 | A-KO | I should have |
| 01:30.43 | Ressy | ask for an autograph? |
| 01:30.45 | A-KO | nah |
| 01:30.50 | A-KO | I didn't bug her. She was with her friends |
| 01:30.54 | Ressy | ah |
| 01:31.05 | A-KO | she's short |
| 01:31.07 | A-KO | really short lol |
| 01:31.07 | pompy | she'd rather take a picture with another star today. http://instagram.com/p/ndw50frk1f/# |
| 01:31.16 | A-KO | she did pompy, that's how I confirmed it was her lol |
| 01:31.21 | A-KO | because of the hair color |
| 01:31.26 | A-KO | the dark red with yellow stripe in it |
| 01:31.57 | A-KO | either way, cool as shit. Made my weekend. |
| 01:32.32 | A-KO | I'm gonna go march more around NYC now |
| 01:36.51 | kd3 | holy crap. footage of the baltimore landslide (watch the last 15s): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrNluXrrHKY |
| 01:37.11 | Primer | heh, I wone! |
| 01:37.13 | Primer | er |
| 01:37.14 | Primer | won |
| 01:54.55 | pompy | kd3: could have said "warning: turn speakers off: annoying screaming lady" :P |
| 01:54.57 | pompy | lol |
| 01:55.41 | TC-Work | When they passed that around work people seemed to enjoy the screams |
| 01:56.02 | pompy | i like this comment... "At least it was filmed in landscape." |
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| 02:08.28 | Sintacks | there isn't a way to increase the size of combatlogging range anymore, right? |
| 02:08.45 | kd3 | not since 2.4 when they redid the combat log |
| 02:09.15 | Amarande | wow, 2.4 ... so long ago (insert obligatory #memorylane tag) |
| 02:09.52 | Amarande | heh, what was I doing in 2.4 ... ah yes, I was paying $50 in server transfer fees, the two and only times I ever have done so :) |
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| 02:48.09 | airtonix | sigh, screaming women... AMAGUDSTUFFISHAPPENING |
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| 03:40.52 | jleclanche | Yo github |
| 03:40.57 | jleclanche | do a mailing list service |
| 03:47.07 | airtonix | what's that? |
| 03:47.23 | airtonix | people just use hipsterChat now |
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| 03:58.01 | karl_w_w | isnt irc hipsterChat? |
| 04:00.41 | airtonix | no coversing with the gods via lies and stageshow is hipsterchat |
| 04:01.04 | airtonix | i just sidestepped a bunch of yorkshire posturing for you there |
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| 04:15.45 | Iriel | I thought you said yorkshire pudding for a moment, and got hungry |
| 04:26.52 | karl_w_w | good yorkshire puddings are the best thing ever |
| 04:27.53 | Iriel | with some roast beef and mashed potato |
| 04:27.54 | Iriel | mmmmmm |
| 04:28.09 | karl_w_w | no |
| 04:28.15 | karl_w_w | roast potatoes |
| 04:28.20 | karl_w_w | are you crazy? :P |
| 04:28.21 | Razernok | I still haven't found a way to show() action bars 6-10 :( |
| 04:28.47 | Iriel | Do they exist, are they anchored somewhere? |
| 04:29.32 | Razernok | WoW has a total of 10 action bars. default blizzard UI only uses the first 5. |
| 04:30.19 | Iriel | You mean logically, or actual UI elements? |
| 04:30.29 | Razernok | actual |
| 04:31.02 | Iriel | Then why _can’t_ you just :Show() it? That’s why I asked if they were anchored |
| 04:31.24 | Razernok | I can't figure out the name of their frames |
| 04:31.34 | Iriel | How can you claim to be certain they exist? |
| 04:31.39 | Iriel | if you dont know what they’re called? |
| 04:32.26 | Razernok | you can't cast spells from addons which prevents you frame making action bars since the addon would be the one casting the spell |
| 04:32.40 | Amarande | Iriel: experience shows me that there are at least six existing action bars, at any rate ... he's got to be right |
| 04:32.54 | Iriel | There’s a logical flaw in your thinking there Razernok |
| 04:32.54 | Amarande | remember that keybindings are saved server side, so obviously the server itself knows about n action bars |
| 04:33.02 | Iriel | we have been given plenty of ways to create action bars (out of combat) |
| 04:33.05 | Amarande | and I've used 6 in Bartender and had the keybindings always be the same every time I come back to WoW |
| 04:33.32 | Iriel | There are a ton of action SLOTS that the game manages |
| 04:33.39 | airtonix | i've always used SuperAwesomeBrofistingGodModeActionBars |
| 04:33.41 | Iriel | btu they dont necessarily have an actual on-screen action bar mapped to them |
| 04:33.51 | Iriel | and of course you can have multiple action buttons mapping to the same action slots |
| 04:34.07 | Razernok | Addons can't cast spells meaing if you make a button when clicked would cast a spell its not allowed by blizzard and the action is blocked |
| 04:34.34 | Iriel | That’s not correct if it’s a button inheriting the secure action button template with a valid action id |
| 04:34.43 | Thunder_Child | Borderline Touring bot, I swear. |
| 04:34.55 | airtonix | are you a cheater Thunder_Child? |
| 04:34.57 | Thunder_Child | Turing* |
| 04:35.01 | Razernok | you have to use the blizzard action bars |
| 04:35.13 | Thunder_Child | airtonix: Yes |
| 04:35.22 | airtonix | oh ok, which games do you cheat at ? |
| 04:35.28 | Iriel | I dont think these words mean what you think they mean, I also dont think you’re willing to listen to what the folks here who know what they’re talking about are trying to tell you. |
| 04:35.30 | Thunder_Child | Razernok: You should listen to Iriel, he helped write this stuff. |
| 04:35.39 | Thunder_Child | airtonix: Life. |
| 04:35.53 | airtonix | which program is that? |
| 04:35.58 | airtonix | i'm not familiar with it |
| 04:36.14 | airtonix | sounds like a windows program |
| 04:36.21 | airtonix | oh you're one of those people |
| 04:36.30 | airtonix | i bet you have a nokia windows phone |
| 04:36.54 | Thunder_Child | I wish. |
| 04:37.31 | Razernok | I just need to know how to show action bars 6-10 |
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| 04:37.51 | airtonix | api.ShowActionbar(7) |
| 04:38.16 | airtonix | i can't keep it a secret anymore |
| 04:38.20 | airtonix | sorry guys |
| 04:38.31 | airtonix | we've led him around for too long |
| 04:39.39 | Razernok | ^fucking ass hole. it didn't fucking work |
| 04:39.58 | Thunder_Child | Well iPhones are also waterproof. |
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| 04:40.57 | Amarande | T_C: though you'd have to be fairly insane in the membrane to test that :S |
| 04:41.19 | Amarande | I think if I really needed to take phone calls in the shower I would invest in a waterproof BT :P |
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| 04:51.16 | Razernok | grrrrrr, how the hell do i show action bars 6-10 |
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| 05:18.57 | airtonix | bothered to look at other actionbar addons? |
| 05:41.21 | Wobin | https://twitter.com/carlfish/status/462073340983668736 |
| 05:41.41 | pompy | airtonix: you beat me too it! ;) |
| 05:49.46 | Thunder_Child | Wobin: people on IRC? What nerds. |
| 05:57.05 | Amarande | heh |
| 05:58.07 | Amarande | I'm still marveling at how the social environment in a game's factions can differ so much from the factions' apparent in-game temperament |
| 05:58.29 | Amarande | Republic? Supposedly they're the good guys, but it seems like the worst jerks on the server play there |
| 05:59.08 | Amarande | Empire? Supposedly we're supposed to be a bunch of nasty evil Sith, but we seem to be much more of the fun-loving, enjoyable sort, where the worst thing that tends to happen regularly is dumb political comments and Jawa jokes |
| 05:59.37 | Wobin | Probably because there';s an outlet for the 'bad evil' stuff |
| 05:59.41 | Wobin | and that's the in game quests |
| 05:59.51 | Wobin | meanwhile, the Republic are all bottled up =P |
| 06:00.15 | Razernok | grrr, I can't figure out how to show the extra 5 action bars :( |
| 06:02.32 | Amarande | I'm surprised there aren't nerf jokes all the time too, though |
| 06:02.47 | Amarande | there's actually a creature on Alderaan called the nerf ... although they seem to always be friendly and unattackable heh |
| 06:03.30 | Thunder_Child | I think we need a requisite IQ test to get into this channel. |
| 06:14.26 | Shirik | ?? |
| 06:14.49 | Semlar | maybe a captcha |
| 06:16.27 | Thunder_Child | Not enough |
| 06:16.32 | Shirik | http://i.imgur.com/haPhvW6.jpg |
| 06:16.55 | Amarande | Semlar: maybe the Turing test? :) |
| 06:17.35 | Thunder_Child | That must taste horrible. |
| 06:17.49 | Semlar | malk |
| 06:18.09 | Semlar | how old could a recipe for jelly bean milk be |
| 06:20.39 | Semlar | for that matter how does one go about milking a jelly bean |
| 06:20.46 | Kodiack | Very carefully. |
| 06:22.12 | Amarande | jelly bean milk? |
| 06:22.34 | Humbedooh | same way one milks a mouse |
| 06:22.38 | Amarande | this sounds like one of those disgusting "flavoured" drinks that are marketed at kids |
| 06:22.46 | Humbedooh | pours some more mouse milk on his cornflakes |
| 06:22.49 | Semlar | from the makers of easter eggnog |
| 06:23.04 | Amarande | the kind that are supposed to taste like mixed fruit I suppose but usually end up tasting like a chemical lab |
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| 06:23.38 | Amarande | mmmmmm, random chemicals. heh |
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| 07:09.29 | karl_w_w | who was saying weaver wasnt a good dota 2 hero? |
| 07:09.45 | Razernok | grrr, I can't figure out how to show the extra 5 action bars :( |
| 07:11.05 | nevcairiel | We told you before, they don't exist, if you want more then the default bars you need to create them yourself |
| 07:11.15 | nevcairiel | if you choose to believe its impossible, thats your choice |
| 07:15.12 | Razernok | you can't make buttons to cast spells. addons aren't allowed to cast spells according to blizzard |
| 07:15.39 | Maldivia | wrong |
| 07:15.53 | Maldivia | look at the secure templates, then try again |
| 07:15.54 | nevcairiel | Maldivia: dont bother, we've been trying to convince him for the last couple days |
| 07:16.06 | nevcairiel | he asks for help but doesnt listen |
| 07:16.13 | Razernok | its blizzard, they're not wrong when it comes to their game |
| 07:16.30 | Semlar | if you think we don't know what we're talking about why are you even hre |
| 07:17.00 | Razernok | i need to show the extra action bars |
| 07:17.11 | nevcairiel | there are no extra bars |
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| 07:18.05 | Razernok | there is extra action bars since people can use them |
| 07:18.17 | nevcairiel | with addons which create them |
| 07:18.34 | Semlar | ah he's got you there though because addons can't create action buttons |
| 07:18.44 | nevcairiel | of course they can |
| 07:18.46 | Maldivia | Razernok: let me put it this was... the secure templates for unit frames and action buttons that are used in game was created with the help of people in this channel... |
| 07:19.01 | Semlar | i don't know, blizzard wouldn't be wrong about their game |
| 07:19.19 | nevcairiel | Semlar: dont encourage him |
| 07:19.22 | Semlar | haha |
| 07:19.32 | Razernok | blizzard makes the action bars and unit frames. not players |
| 07:19.43 | Semlar | i'm convinced he's just trolling us |
| 07:19.44 | nevcairiel | like i said, he is beyond help |
| 07:20.34 | Maldivia | Razernok: extract the interface code, look at the first line in SecureGroupHeaders.lua -- when you've done so, come back here, until there you're just a troll |
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| 07:22.17 | Razernok | Blizzard has already stated awhile back that addons are no longer allowed to cast spells whether from something like /cast or from a button the player clicks. Only way for spells be me casted is from the action bar |
| 07:22.42 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: ok, you're right, just a troll |
| 07:22.44 | Maldivia | ignored |
| 07:23.24 | karl_w_w | the developer of the most popular action bar addon in WoW is telling you how it's done |
| 07:23.39 | karl_w_w | if he's wrong, how the hell does bartender work? |
| 07:23.48 | nevcairiel | karl_w_w: someone tried that argument yesterday |
| 07:24.00 | Maldivia | karl_w_w: uhh, I know... nevcairiel secretly works for Blizzard!! |
| 07:24.08 | Semlar | i think we've tried all the arguments, actually |
| 07:24.15 | nevcairiel | I do? Man, i should complain for the lack of pay checks |
| 07:24.21 | karl_w_w | nevcairiel has worked out how to break the security :P |
| 07:24.31 | Jamash | Razernok: are you high? |
| 07:25.44 | rid_ | -_- |
| 07:25.46 | rid_ | fun read |
| 07:25.50 | rid_ | *grabs coffee* |
| 07:26.21 | zenzio | is this actually a current-version question? |
| 07:26.32 | Semlar | it wouldn't even matter |
| 07:26.36 | Maldivia | zenzio: well, there has never been a version when you couldn't do it |
| 07:27.02 | Maldivia | (unless we're talking alpha versions where addons are disabled) |
| 07:27.04 | zenzio | I've only seen a fragment of the conversation, thought maybe it could've been a 1.12 => 2 thing |
| 07:27.07 | nevcairiel | in classic you could just cast spells, so obviously he isn't asking about classic, and since BC they have other means to do it |
| 07:27.13 | Semlar | are there any channel rules regarding someone not taking our sagely advice |
| 07:27.15 | Jamash | anyone remember healbot? |
| 07:27.16 | Jamash | the real one? |
| 07:27.29 | Jamash | I never used it but it was super popular |
| 07:27.30 | haste | push button, heal player |
| 07:27.30 | Mr_Rabies | that would probably backfire semlar |
| 07:27.37 | Mr_Rabies | imagine if we had to listen to airtonix or fisker's advice |
| 07:27.38 | Semlar | >_> |
| 07:27.41 | Jamash | and there was an auto cleanse, was that part of healbot? |
| 07:27.41 | Maldivia | you mean, load the game and go watch TV while the raid cleared AQ |
| 07:27.44 | zenzio | what was the other one, decursive? |
| 07:27.48 | Jamash | yeah that one |
| 07:27.49 | haste | yep |
| 07:28.05 | haste | a lot of people just made macros for the heal monitor in CTRaid as well |
| 07:28.13 | Jamash | push button, receive epics |
| 07:28.27 | karl_w_w | no that was ultraxion |
| 07:28.56 | Jamash | I finished space marine, woo |
| 07:29.03 | nevcairiel | i never used a healbot like thing, although i guess we all used decursive |
| 07:29.09 | Jamash | now I have 999 games on my pile of shame instead of 1000 |
| 07:29.21 | haste | has never used decursive. |
| 07:29.25 | Jamash | I didn't start healing until bc so I never had any of that stuff |
| 07:29.31 | haste | PerfectRaid worked more than well enough :P |
| 07:29.39 | nevcairiel | if you raided naxxramas back then, without decursive it was a lost cause |
| 07:29.43 | Jamash | grid was my lord and savior |
| 07:29.56 | haste | not really nevcairiel :P |
| 07:30.03 | karl_w_w | most people in my guild still used decursive until blizzard added their own raid frames |
| 07:30.09 | karl_w_w | most healers I should say |
| 07:30.27 | nevcairiel | haste: some encounters just spammed you with debuffs.. |
| 07:30.39 | haste | I know |
| 07:30.41 | Jamash | are blizzard raid frames (or all raid frames for that matter) still broken in terms of not updating when players join/leave/change groups? |
| 07:31.07 | Mr_Rabies | i think anything that gets within 50 miles of their code breaks them horribly if those happen in combat |
| 07:31.19 | Jamash | so, yes |
| 07:31.30 | Mr_Rabies | seems to break way less often on my pc, at least |
| 07:31.39 | karl_w_w | should I be buying broken age while it's still 40% off? |
| 07:31.43 | Jamash | I need a job so I can subscribe again |
| 07:31.57 | Jamash | well, gnifht folks |
| 07:32.00 | Jamash | drive safely |
| 07:34.04 | Razernok | i remember blizzard stating that spells must be casted from the action bars. no more addon buttons casting them |
| 07:35.55 | Razernok | means there has to be extra (hidden) action bars |
| 07:36.14 | Razernok | since addons can show up to 10 action bars |
| 07:36.52 | Maldivia | Razernok: here you go: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/66954-ui-mods-and-the-burning-crusade/ |
| 07:37.01 | Maldivia | "Just to clarify, AddOns and macros will still be able to cast spells (with user interaction of course), they just won't be able to use logic to intelligently pick spells or targets. " |
| 07:37.13 | Maldivia | end-of-discussion |
| 07:37.38 | Razernok | then the change came after that |
| 07:37.47 | Razernok | I don't remember when |
| 07:38.01 | nevcairiel | Maldivia: we tried quoting blizzard at him as well already |
| 07:39.38 | Gethe | https://github.com/Gethe/wow-ui-source/blob/live/FrameXML/SecureGroupHeaders.lua#L2 |
| 07:39.47 | Gethe | addon authors |
| 07:48.03 | Razernok | I just need to know how to show extra action bars. thats all |
| 07:48.18 | nevcairiel | they don't exist |
| 07:49.22 | Razernok | that have to since addons use them |
| 07:50.05 | nevcairiel | then look at those addons how they do it! |
| 07:50.17 | Razernok | i can't figure them out. |
| 07:50.28 | nevcairiel | thats too bad, huh |
| 07:51.10 | Maldivia | Razernok: try looking at how the addon Bartender does it... I'm sure the author will be happy to help you if you have any questions |
| 07:51.26 | nevcairiel | i'm beyond happy to help |
| 07:51.30 | Razernok | I can't figure out the code |
| 07:51.44 | Razernok | I've tried to find the show() code. |
| 07:53.01 | Maldivia | Razernok: http://wowpedia.org/SecureActionButtonTemplate |
| 07:54.17 | Razernok | i don' |
| 07:54.45 | Razernok | i don't see code on there for showing the extra (hidden) action bars |
| 07:55.49 | Gethe | make a button * 12 to get an action bar |
| 07:56.23 | Razernok | I just need to know how to show extra action bars. thats all |
| 07:56.36 | haste | you need to create them |
| 07:56.38 | nevcairiel | you can't show something which doesn't exist in the first place |
| 07:56.57 | nevcairiel | default ui only has its 6 bars |
| 07:57.05 | Razernok | u mean 5 |
| 07:57.14 | Razernok | plus 5 hidden |
| 07:57.45 | zenzio | actionbars are like children. They don't exist until you create them |
| 07:58.03 | Maldivia | Razernok: the default UI doesn't have bars for the additional ones, since the default uses those for the various stances/forms etc, so it can't have actual bars for it |
| 07:58.06 | nevcairiel | i guess its just 5 if you dont count the second page of the main bar |
| 07:58.42 | Semlar | i don't think it's a separate bar |
| 07:59.12 | nevcairiel | it gives you access to action bars 1-6 anyway! with 5 physical bars! |
| 07:59.14 | nevcairiel | happy now? :p |
| 07:59.20 | Humbedooh | never! |
| 07:59.26 | Semlar | never! |
| 07:59.44 | nevcairiel | i havent used those in years, bartender just hides them and creates its own |
| 08:00.15 | nevcairiel | but apparently, I must be employing forbidden blood magic to make that happen, since its impossible |
| 08:00.27 | Semlar | can't imagine how opie must work |
| 08:00.58 | nevcairiel | carefully? |
| 08:01.05 | Gethe | circular magic |
| 08:02.48 | Gethe | what about that new actionbar adoon, where you can shape it into beizer-like curves |
| 08:02.52 | Gethe | very cool |
| 08:02.58 | Semlar | but sadly impossible |
| 08:06.12 | Razernok | fill in the blank. To show/hide the extra action bars use this function ____________ |
| 08:06.28 | Semlar | there aren't extra action bars |
| 08:06.44 | Semlar | so it would be quite a large function |
| 08:08.15 | Gethe | once you create the bars you can use Show() |
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| 09:10.11 | airtonix_ | lawl |
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| 09:57.52 | nevcairiel | creating new bars using the built-in action bar presets isnt all that long, tbh |
| 09:58.13 | nevcairiel | but its not like he wants to hear of it! |
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| 10:37.23 | airtonix | sorry it's actually specialApi.ShowSecretActionBar(binaryObjet(IntegerConversion(FromString(FromRoman('vii')))) |
| 10:37.54 | airtonix | silly me i was referring to my pre burning crusade notes before |
| 10:38.28 | airtonix | also, lots more linux games on steam now! |
| 10:38.49 | airtonix | creeper world 3 looks interesting? |
| 11:17.53 | karl_w_w | sounds like your sort of game |
| 11:37.05 | bluspacecow | http://www.minecraftforum.net/news/1262-denmark-in-minecraft-all-of-it/ |
| 11:37.17 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:37.27 | bluspacecow | does this mean I can now zoom in on Fiskers House |
| 11:37.29 | bluspacecow | Fiskers House |
| 11:37.32 | bluspacecow | in Minecraft |
| 11:37.33 | bluspacecow | LOL |
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| 12:30.26 | karl_w_w | but denmark already exists |
| 12:33.21 | zenzio | lies |
| 12:35.50 | airtonix | denmark: ashkenazi for "compliant immigrant control" |
| 12:39.08 | Fisker | want ban ? |
| 12:39.51 | rid_ | :] |
| 12:39.54 | rid_ | want hug? |
| 12:40.16 | Fisker | sure |
| 12:41.16 | rid_ | hugs Fisker |
| 12:41.22 | Fisker | hugs rid_ |
| 13:03.07 | airtonix | uamd Fisker? |
| 13:03.51 | airtonix | because you sound amd |
| 13:05.02 | Workfoz | I'm quite certain that heintel |
| 13:05.03 | Workfoz | not heamd |
| 13:06.57 | rid_ | huehue |
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| 15:33.01 | Kraps | uhhhhh i did not know the warcraft movie was actually in production |
| 15:33.08 | Kraps | http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2014/may/wcmShoot.png |
| 15:36.07 | Fisker | didn't know it was pretty much done filming either Kraps? :3 |
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| 15:38.28 | Kraps | right |
| 15:39.29 | Kraps | imdb has it as a 2016 release |
| 15:41.17 | Fisker | Lopeppeppy |
| 15:43.18 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Fiskerboo. |
| 15:43.43 | Fisker | :3 |
| 15:45.59 | g0urra | oh no, Fisker turned into a cat |
| 15:46.07 | Fisker | I've always been a cat |
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| 16:47.52 | pompy | http://www.nerdist.com/2014/05/matt-smith-could-be-joining-the-new-terminator-trilogy/ |
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| 18:59.17 | kd3 | oh gods: http://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/24jme8/so_this_just_happened/ |
| 19:01.50 | nevcairiel | kd3: more importantly, why the fuck keep a server where some random nutball can just get to it and pack it up? |
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| 19:19.02 | Fisker | Yeah we had something like that kd3 |
| 19:19.15 | Fisker | Someone about to throw out the domain controller |
| 19:23.18 | Dashkal | blinks |
| 19:23.20 | Dashkal | blinks more |
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| 19:55.48 | Dashkal | And there's an update: http://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/24jme8/so_this_just_happened/ch7yv7v (For those just tuning in, definitely read the store before the comment) |
| 19:55.56 | Dashkal | story* |
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| 20:09.58 | rid_ | ITs own fault tbfh |
| 20:10.14 | rid_ | who puts a productive server somewhere accessible to everyone |
| 20:10.18 | rid_ | hope he learned his lesson |
| 20:10.43 | rid_ | imagine Consuela the cleaning lady taking all the data to their competitors |
| 20:11.02 | rid_ | fun read tho |
| 20:11.48 | Dagmar | If they're hiring people who can confuse a tower with a thumbdrive, I doubt they've got anything worth stealing |
| 20:12.14 | rid_ | thats not the point |
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| 20:14.18 | Hazal | Hey guys. How would I get the max dmg of my equipped weapons. And would I be able to get that information while in combat? |
| 20:16.08 | kd3 | I'm not aware of an API call specifically to get weapon damage... you'd have to scrape the tooltip |
| 20:19.00 | Hazal | I don't think there is an API call for that. and I think I'd probably have to do something like that but I am not sure where to get the tooltip from in the first place. |
| 20:19.27 | Hazal | (I have no idea how to scrape the tooltip or even get the tooltip). |
| 20:20.13 | Dashkal | There are plenty of offices where there simply isn't a secure place to put the server. |
| 20:20.23 | Dashkal | Not uncommon for small businesses |
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| 20:22.39 | Razernok | really need to figure out how to show the extra action bars |
| 20:22.49 | rid_ | thats still no excuse Dashkal |
| 20:23.32 | Fisker | I don't get how unplugging the server got them fucked up that badly |
| 20:23.35 | Dashkal | Hi, our business is in a space in an office building and has exactly one open room. |
| 20:24.28 | rid_ | wallmounts, halfracks, locks |
| 20:24.35 | rid_ | thats like $100 stuff |
| 20:25.41 | Dashkal | We went with hiring people willing to learn basic concepts out of their expertese |
| 20:26.49 | rid_ | Fisker: probably because the whole story was made up for karma |
| 20:26.59 | Fisker | Yeah probably |
| 20:27.02 | Dashkal | Well of course. Everything on reddit is a lie for karma |
| 20:27.17 | Fisker | We had that happen |
| 20:27.19 | Fisker | so we plugged it in again |
| 20:27.24 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:27.24 | purl | well, fin is Microsoft's "Freedom To Innovate Network", at http://www.microsoft.com/freedomtoinnovate/. Freedom for only themselves not for their competitors, or known as Pgl. Why don't you check ~pgl? |
| 20:27.25 | kd3 | hazal, http://wowpedia.org/UIOBJECT_GameTooltip#Pure_Lua_compact_solution |
| 20:27.57 | Dashkal | That's the other side. Walking out with the server would annoy us, but hardly hurt us. |
| 20:28.09 | Dashkal | Backups are an amazing concept :P |
| 20:28.18 | rid_ | so is redudancy |
| 20:28.24 | rid_ | n |
| 20:28.25 | Dashkal | Indeed |
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| 20:30.10 | Fisker | Well here it's only the boss at least |
| 20:31.17 | Dashkal | A hell of a lot more went wrong than someone being able to physically walk out with that machine. |
| 20:31.28 | rid_ | yup |
| 20:31.43 | Dashkal | If a freak tornado went and took out our office (while we wern't there), we'd be fine. |
| 20:31.54 | Dashkal | That said, small company. While we're here and that's it for the company :P |
| 20:35.38 | Razernok | I really need to figure out how to show the extra action bars |
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| 20:40.05 | Gethe | Razernok: You've already been told how to do it. The fact that it's more difficult than you expected does not make it invalid. |
| 20:40.44 | Razernok | I just need the name of the frame for the extra action bars so I can do Show() |
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| 20:49.11 | rid_ | oh, it's still that actionbar guy |
| 20:49.16 | rid_ | -.- |
| 20:51.54 | Razernok | just tell me how to show() the extra action bars |
| 21:04.49 | zenzelezz | oh god, this again? |
| 21:05.02 | zenzelezz | they've tried to tell you dozens of times, but you choose not to listen |
| 21:05.35 | Razernok | other addons can show them. so they have to exist |
| 21:05.50 | Dagmar | They're all in your head, man |
| 21:06.01 | zenzelezz | no, other addons emulate them |
| 21:06.18 | Gethe | other addon create them from secure templates |
| 21:06.52 | Razernok | addons can't cast spells anymore. blizzard prevented that awhile back. only way to cast spells is from an action bar. which blizzard creates |
| 21:09.43 | zenzelezz | I got to hand it to you, you're either the most partient troll, or the most blind person in a while |
| 21:09.51 | zenzelezz | also patient |
| 21:09.58 | Razernok | i just need to know the name of the frames for the extra action bars so I can Show() them |
| 21:10.05 | Gethe | Well then i guess that means i'll have to find somthing to replace Bartender, since it obviosly dosn't work...oh wait |
| 21:10.31 | zenzelezz | Razernok: don't you think that by now someone would have told you? |
| 21:11.00 | Razernok | ppl are just being assholes like most ppl are online |
| 21:11.12 | zenzelezz | sure |
| 21:11.47 | Gethe | we've been tring to help you, but you ignore the help. |
| 21:11.47 | Primer | watching this 550 destro lock in RBGs...he's hitting fuckers for over 200k consistently |
| 21:11.53 | Primer | makes me want to play my lock again |
| 21:12.08 | Razernok | you haven't told me how to Show() the extra action bars |
| 21:12.23 | Razernok | no one has |
| 21:12.23 | Gethe | thats because thats not how it works |
| 21:12.36 | Gethe | you need to create those bars |
| 21:12.41 | zenzelezz | Cairenn: you might want to look into this before the guy's on everyone's ignore lists |
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| 21:13.23 | Dagmar | Razernok: What you're asking for is _not possible_ |
| 21:13.41 | Razernok | addons can't cast spells anymore. blizzard prevented that awhile back. only way to cast spells is from an action bar. which blizzard creates |
| 21:14.16 | Cairenn | Razernok: Repeating yourself, over and over and over, and completely ignoring the information you've been given over and over and over, is not the way to make friends and influence people. |
| 21:15.32 | Cairenn | Also, the people in this channel are not assholes. If anything, you've found one of the most inclusive, accepting, patience & helpful channels around. |
| 21:15.35 | Razernok | I know for a fact that blizzard prevented addons from casting spells. Plus they said that for players to cast spells it must be done from a blizzard created action bar |
| 21:15.45 | Gnarfoz | I doubt they said *that* |
| 21:15.48 | Cairenn | The only person acting like an asshole around here is you |
| 21:15.49 | Razernok | I remember seeing said patch |
| 21:16.02 | Dagmar | I'm sure they didn't say that |
| 21:16.15 | Dagmar | ...but the fact remains that these apps all show you fake action bars |
| 21:16.17 | Razernok | they did say it |
| 21:16.17 | Gnarfoz | You can create those actionbars yourself, and you must, because you can't use Blizzard's |
| 21:16.27 | Cairenn | Now either start listening to what people are telling you and try to actually work with the information they are giving you, or feel free to leave voluntarily |
| 21:17.16 | zenzelezz | lurves Cairenn and offers up the rum |
| 21:17.22 | Gnarfoz | Blizzard's are for Blizzard only, because Blizzard is special and (for various reasons) makes addon authors jump through some extra hoops to be able to do the same |
| 21:18.07 | Cairenn | smoogles zenzelezz, and goes to grab some coca cola. |
| 21:18.21 | Dagmar | They did not say that or I wouldn't survive many fights considering that I don't play without custom action bars anymore |
| 21:18.32 | Dagmar | Hunters need too many damn buttons |
| 21:19.26 | Razernok | You have to use the action bars from blizzard so the player can cast the spells on said action bars. As addons can't have a button to cast it as its the addon casting the spel.l which isn't allowed |
| 21:19.37 | Cairenn | offs |
| 21:19.56 | Dagmar | I must have incredible psychic powers then |
| 21:20.01 | kd3 | that's *not* how it works. if you inherit from specific templates, you can create your own action bars... look at all the bar mods out there that do it |
| 21:20.13 | Razernok | I remember seeing the patch when blizzard put a stop to addons casting spells |
| 21:20.24 | kd3 | you're misremembering patch 2.0 |
| 21:20.25 | Dagmar | So does about half the channel |
| 21:20.31 | Gnarfoz | I'd wager someone already linked or mentioned something like this: http://wowpedia.org/SecureActionButtonTemplate |
| 21:20.44 | Gnarfoz | which explains how to create action buttons (to cast spells with) yourself |
| 21:21.11 | Cairenn | What you are mis-remembering is Blizzard stopping addons from being able to cast spells without user input. |
| 21:21.16 | Gnarfoz | Razernok: that patch just stopped the then prevalent way of doing so, and at the same time, introduced a new, different way to do it |
| 21:21.29 | Dagmar | You're not allowed to move them around or flick them on and off trivially because someone else came along later and made blizz's bars move around under the mouse pointer |
| 21:21.57 | Razernok | meaning addons that act as action bars need to switch to using the blizzard action bars. hence why blizzard has 10 bars total. 5 are just hidden |
| 21:22.06 | Dagmar | Nope |
| 21:22.20 | Dagmar | Bars are not the same thing as buttons |
| 21:22.52 | Cairenn | Seriously? LISTEN.to.what.people.are.telling.you. These folks are addon authors who have been around for *years*. They know wtf they are talking about. |
| 21:23.06 | Razernok | Blizzard has never given a way for addons to make their own action bars since addons can't cast spells |
| 21:23.14 | Cairenn | okay, see ya |
| 21:23.21 | Gnarfoz | Razernok: they have |
| 21:23.23 | Gnarfoz | It's what I linked |
| 21:23.31 | Gnarfoz | please look into it :( |
| 21:23.40 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+b Razernok!*@*] by Cairenn |
| 21:23.46 | Dagmar | Razernok: Have you been buying "homemade" flavor strips from soem long-haired hippy? |
| 21:23.50 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Razernok!~Owner@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (Razernok) |
| 21:24.11 | Dagmar | Only thing I can figure is he's eating a whole lot of LSD from somewhere |
| 21:24.28 | Gnarfoz | I can't decide if: 8 years old, mentally challenged, dumb, or just a troll |
| 21:24.31 | zenzelezz | I really don't get the guy |
| 21:24.38 | zenzelezz | I've never seen a troll so persistent |
| 21:24.43 | Dagmar | I miss nestea |
| 21:24.46 | Cairenn | Well, he's gone for 24 hrs at this point |
| 21:24.48 | zenzelezz | and if he's not a troll, then I slightly pity him |
| 21:24.51 | Dagmar | ...and teardrop. |
| 21:25.28 | Dagmar | Ohh.. He's a _Texan_. |
| 21:25.54 | Gnarfoz | I doubt it's a troll, but... well. Perhaps his IRC font is set to alternating colours and he has bad eyesight, so he can only read like 1 out of 10 replies xD |
| 21:26.17 | Dagmar | Either that or the fractals flying around the room are getting in his way |
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| 21:26.38 | nevcairiel | I didnt think stupdity was a reason for kicking, but that guy was persistently stupid and ignorant |
| 21:26.43 | Dagmar | I thought the moving action bar trick was actually pretty hilarious looking |
| 21:27.11 | nevcairiel | we tried to tell him what to do, he just said it was impossible :p |
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| 21:27.35 | Cairenn | over, and over, and over, and over ... and *that* is why he is taking a break |
| 21:27.59 | Cairenn | not to mention that he called you guys assholes :p |
| 21:28.00 | Unkle | Dagmar: You've impugned the entire state of Texas on the basis of one dunce? That's like condemning all of France because of Sarcozy. |
| 21:28.12 | zenzelezz | Cairenn: well, we are, but we tried to help him |
| 21:28.13 | Cairenn | protects her coderz |
| 21:28.22 | Dagmar | Unkle: You've seen 'Slacker', right? |
| 21:28.29 | Unkle | Dagmar: Negative. |
| 21:28.33 | Dagmar | I'm not saying they're all thick, but clearly there's something in the water there |
| 21:28.52 | Dagmar | Unkle: You should see it. The terrifying thing is Linklater basically just filmed "normal" loonies around Austin |
| 21:28.57 | Unkle | You're in TN. Glass houses and all that. |
| 21:29.05 | Gnarfoz | dihydrogenmonoxide in the water |
| 21:29.08 | Gnarfoz | it's dangerous |
| 21:29.16 | Dagmar | Yes I know. I saw a guy wearing two rebel flags as a ponch two nights ago |
| 21:29.16 | Gnarfoz | warn him next time |
| 21:29.21 | Torhal | takes Cairenn's shared drive home to work on the weekend. |
| 21:29.26 | Dagmar | ...but remember Texas has that Bundy guy. |
| 21:29.39 | Unkle | A thimble full is enough to cause asphyxiation. |
| 21:29.54 | Dagmar | Someone engaging in abuse of common lands in the _exact manner_ usually used to illustrate the tragedy of the commons. |
| 21:29.56 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: a "shared drive home", eh? ;p |
| 21:29.59 | Unkle | The rancher in the nes lately? He's New Mexico. |
| 21:30.07 | Dagmar | Oh okay |
| 21:30.08 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: http://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/24jme8/so_this_just_happened/ |
| 21:30.18 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I've seen it ;p |
| 21:30.23 | Gnarfoz | just wanted to make a funneh :( |
| 21:30.27 | Dagmar | All the flat, deserty states look alike from here. |
| 21:30.28 | Torhal | Heh |
| 21:30.40 | Gnarfoz | am I going to BlizzCon this year? I can't decide :o |
| 21:30.44 | kd3 | dagmar, you mean flyover country? |
| 21:30.51 | Dagmar | kd3: Pretty much |
| 21:31.14 | Dagmar | kd3: I'm sort of uneasy even thinking about those states since an AA pilot decided to show off the Grand Canyon once |
| 21:32.27 | Dagmar | kd3: I was on the left side of the plane. 6 seats wide. Pilot says 'If you look out the left hand windows, you'll see the Grand Canyon' and I basically ignore it. He says '...and in a moment we'll make a pass aorund the other way so those of you on the other side can get a good look at it.' |
| 21:32.50 | kd3 | oh wow |
| 21:32.58 | Dagmar | kd3: when he announces the people on the right side should look, I glance across the plane to see if they care either... I CAN SEE THE GRAND CANYON. |
| 21:32.59 | Gnarfoz | how thoughtful of him |
| 21:33.26 | Dagmar | THe fucker is banking the jumbo jet at like a 70 degree angle so it's literally right in the damn window |
| 21:33.36 | kd3 | holy crap |
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| 21:36.10 | Dagmar | My next flight through PHX I told the stewardess "Thank you for not showing us the grand canyon" and she looked confused until I made a plane making steep turns gesture with my hands and she laughed. |
| 21:37.22 | Dagmar | I don't like heights, but planes don't bother me... as long as they're not flying sideways. |
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| 21:39.59 | Unkle | And inverted is right out? |
| 21:40.14 | Amarande | You had to stop by Arizona, Dagmar? Condolences. |
| 21:40.14 | Dagmar | In a jumbo? Absolutely out of the question. |
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| 21:40.35 | Dagmar | Amarande: Hell, PHX isn't that bad. I wanted to skin someone when UA stranded me in IAD overnight. |
| 21:41.02 | Amarande | Dagmar: except Arizona is packed full of batshit conservatives with power, apparently |
| 21:41.24 | Dagmar | I'm not afraid of those people when I have a connecting flight ready to get me far away in a hurry |
| 21:42.29 | Amarande | Yeah, at least Gloomberg didn't get his way, or JFK would probably have become the suck airport, heh |
| 21:42.57 | Amarande | Since it would have been subject to that stupid New York City policy he tried to have go through about drink sizes |
| 21:43.23 | Dagmar | Heheh |
| 21:43.24 | Amarande | Apparently when I noted this to a concession stand person a few days before it was to have gone into effect, it seemed the case that HMS Host was rubbing hands together in glee over that rule though :P |
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| 21:43.40 | Dagmar | 2oz of PGA is actually plenty |
| 21:43.42 | ALPHATT | Aight guys I need PB4 help |
| 21:43.43 | Amarande | Because you know, yay, then they could charge you four dollars for a 12oz can of Coke LOL |
| 21:43.54 | Amarande | Oh, Pitbull 4 |
| 21:43.56 | ALPHATT | why is there no cooldown spiral or cooldown text on buffs/debuffs of my target |
| 21:44.04 | Amarande | heh. I almost had a flash back to my Commodore 64 days when you said PB4 |
| 21:44.05 | ALPHATT | even tho they are all enabled |
| 21:44.15 | ALPHATT | I tried reload, logout, restart |
| 21:44.23 | ALPHATT | setting seems to have saved, but doesn't actually work |
| 21:44.33 | Dagmar | because pb4's configuration is nightmarishly confusing, mainly. |
| 21:44.34 | ALPHATT | there's only stack count, no time remaining text or spiral |
| 21:44.39 | Dagmar | I use it, but i'm not going to lie about it |
| 21:44.50 | Mr_Rabies | i guess they've just given up on posting patch notes for the bnet client |
| 21:44.58 | ALPHATT | So, what do? |
| 21:45.02 | ALPHATT | I'm in layout, aruas |
| 21:45.12 | ALPHATT | and then went to display and text, those arethe places where I made changes |
| 21:45.21 | ALPHATT | where else do I need to check |
| 21:45.58 | Amarande | (On the Commodore 64, "PB4" was a coding mnemonic label used to refer to "Port B, bit 4" when accessing the I/O chip) |
| 21:46.11 | Mr_Rabies | i remember it being there, ALPHATT, but it's been literally since BC since i've used pitbull |
| 21:46.29 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: Believe it or not, PB4's configuration is less painful |
| 21:46.34 | Amarande | Mr_Rabies, how was it like playing WoW back in BC? |
| 21:46.40 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: It's still a nightmare tho |
| 21:46.45 | Amarande | The lag must have been horrible when you had to carry scrolls back and forth between home and the central server in Rome :) |
| 21:46.48 | Mr_Rabies | i remember harassing ckknight weekly to add settings sooooooo |
| 21:47.03 | Mr_Rabies | i might have been partly responsible :p |
| 21:47.05 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: Okay so YOU were actually PART of the reason it was a goddamn nightmare to configure, then |
| 21:47.09 | ALPHATT | can anyone actually give me concrete information |
| 21:47.17 | Amarande | Unless maybe Gaul and Athens had their own servers, but that still would be pretty laggy carrying them scrolls :) |
| 21:47.22 | Mr_Rabies | i can install it and putz around a bit ALPHATT gimme a sec |
| 21:47.24 | Amarande | Oh, not that BC. :D |
| 21:47.28 | ALPHATT | oh my god dude |
| 21:47.29 | ALPHATT | thanks |
| 21:47.35 | Dagmar | Now it's a nightmare you wake up from in a sweat, minus the screaming that accompanied PB3's nightmare |
| 21:47.41 | Mr_Rabies | i remember having to set everything up using his scripting language stuff for pitbull |
| 21:47.48 | Mr_Rabies | that was a nightmare |
| 21:47.57 | Torhal | Dogtags? |
| 21:48.04 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 21:48.08 | Torhal | shivers. |
| 21:48.10 | Dagmar | Hell, Dogtags isn't that bad |
| 21:48.25 | Iiris | :( |
| 21:48.25 | Dagmar | It would be nice to know why it exists, but whatever |
| 21:48.33 | Mr_Rabies | also me, the guy that couldn't code anything more advanced than a batch script |
| 21:48.36 | Mr_Rabies | playing around in dogtags |
| 21:48.50 | Amarande | Dagmar: it's like the high school poetry in that xkcd ... nobody knows |
| 21:48.57 | ALPHATT | OMG |
| 21:48.58 | Mr_Rabies | because at one point a ton of the settings had no gui settings for full configuration, dagmar, and dogtags were an easy way to customize things |
| 21:48.59 | ALPHATT | nevermined |
| 21:49.02 | ALPHATT | stop it everyone |
| 21:49.06 | ALPHATT | I figured it out |
| 21:49.08 | Mr_Rabies | sweet, ALPHATT, you found it? |
| 21:49.08 | Mr_Rabies | nice |
| 21:49.10 | ALPHATT | there's seperate profiles |
| 21:49.14 | ALPHATT | for every frame |
| 21:49.14 | Dagmar | Amarande: I'm sure there's some whiz-bang thing in there, but I've never found it |
| 21:49.18 | Mr_Rabies | ah, yeah |
| 21:49.20 | ALPHATT | target, focus etc |
| 21:49.22 | Mr_Rabies | one of the wonders of pitbull |
| 21:49.26 | Dagmar | ALPHATT: ...and now you know why the word 'nightmare' comes out |
| 21:49.30 | Mr_Rabies | it's awesome once you get it set up |
| 21:49.32 | ALPHATT | lol |
| 21:49.38 | ALPHATT | yeah, there's a lot of control |
| 21:49.41 | Dagmar | With great power, comes endless configuration menus |
| 21:49.41 | Mr_Rabies | but the process of getting it how you like it is nightmarish |
| 21:49.43 | ALPHATT | bt gd is it uninituitve |
| 21:49.54 | ALPHATT | btw guys, I was using a premade profiel, and the hell I went thru |
| 21:49.55 | ALPHATT | holy fuck |
| 21:49.59 | Amarande | Dagmar: hah, that one's good :) |
| 21:50.03 | Dagmar | No, it's intuitive, provided you are actually inside the computer looking at the data structures. |
| 21:50.08 | ALPHATT | somone set up class colors where shamans looked almost as turqoise as monks |
| 21:50.13 | Mr_Rabies | i just use mostly default unit frames nowadays |
| 21:50.14 | ALPHATT | and priests were almost as blue as mages |
| 21:50.36 | Mr_Rabies | i just have unit hp % and an addon that makes a barberpole-type animation when mobs are in execute range |
| 21:50.40 | ALPHATT | it's a really nice premade layout, but there were some REALLY wierd things |
| 21:50.57 | ALPHATT | yeah, I was actally using mostly default stuff, it's pretty agile these days |
| 21:51.10 | Mr_Rabies | i have yet to find an addon that provides the info the default frames do in the same amount of space |
| 21:51.15 | Dagmar | Those are probably the bits where PB mysteriously inhereits some random data as configuration |
| 21:51.24 | ALPHATT | but I got a layout going that maximies the unobstructed screen real estate, while also giving clean and legible info on stuff |
| 21:51.48 | ALPHATT | what I dislike about default frames |
| 21:52.01 | ALPHATT | is that u need to make them really big, for the buffs/debuffs to be truyl legible for me |
| 21:52.04 | ALPHATT | at a glance |
| 21:52.24 | Dagmar | I just make everything I can't do shit about tiny |
| 21:52.25 | ALPHATT | However the best raid frames are the blizz frames, they are godly |
| 21:52.37 | Mr_Rabies | i only have my own debuffs visible |
| 21:52.48 | Mr_Rabies | the only big problem with the blizzard raid frames is their fragility |
| 21:52.51 | Mr_Rabies | other than that i love them |
| 21:52.53 | ALPHATT | I watch all buffs/debuffs because I need it for arena |
| 21:53.00 | ALPHATT | ah yeah oh god |
| 21:53.12 | ALPHATT | , I was chasing a taint for 2 months |
| 21:53.26 | Mr_Rabies | i was chasing taint since dragon soul and it just mysteriously went away one day |
| 21:53.33 | Mr_Rabies | dunno if blizzard fixed it or what |
| 21:53.49 | Mr_Rabies | but it was around 5.2-5.3 that it suddenly stopped breaking every boss fight |
| 21:54.13 | ALPHATT | possibly |
| 21:56.31 | Mr_Rabies | also curse blizzard for making me use phrases like "chasing taint" |
| 21:59.04 | Torhal | That sounds dirty. |
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| 22:04.53 | Amarande | Dagmar: how is random data even inheritable like that in Lua? |
| 22:05.15 | Amarande | one of the things about Lua (actually one of the stumbling blocks for new Lua coders, I would have to say) is that uninitialised variables' values aren't usable |
| 22:05.24 | Amarande | since they start out as "nil" rather than the random contents of RAM, no? |
| 22:05.35 | Amarande | not like say C++, where if you failed to initialise something it WOULD be random memory contents |
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| 22:32.30 | ALPHATT | Oh btw, bugsack is constantly crying that Ace3 is messing up when I login, probably a taint somewhere, but everything is working and I don't get the error beyond that. |
| 22:32.54 | ALPHATT | it's actually pointing to tellmewhen, but I doubt that's the addon responsible |
| 22:34.51 | ALPHATT | I know what ur gonna say |
| 22:34.55 | ALPHATT | disable addons 1 by 1 |
| 22:34.59 | Torhal | Binary. |
| 22:34.59 | ALPHATT | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:35.03 | Torhal | Disable half. |
| 22:36.13 | ALPHATT | What do you mean? |
| 22:37.34 | Torhal | Disable half of your AddOns. If you still have the problem, turn the other half off, turn the original back on. From the remaining half, disable half of those. Rinse and repeat. |
| 22:37.44 | Torhal | Much faster way of tracking down which is causing the problem. |
| 22:37.46 | ALPHATT | ah |
| 22:37.50 | ALPHATT | definitely a good workflow |
| 22:37.52 | ALPHATT | thank u |
| 22:42.03 | Mr_Rabies | if it's on login that works pretty well |
| 22:42.12 | Mr_Rabies | if it's like, randomly occuring in a raid, good luck :p |
| 22:45.01 | jleclanche | I am a god. |
| 22:45.19 | jleclanche | I have successfully revamped and rewritten half of a bash app |
| 22:45.23 | jleclanche | without bugging everything out! |
| 22:45.46 | jleclanche | https://github.com/MediaCrush/MediaCrush-cli/commit/5f9b929271df2bdddb3f6f60ce576e2451f2eabf |
| 22:46.33 | jleclanche | refactoring yo. |
| 22:59.14 | ALPHATT | actually I have a suspicion that it's bartender |
| 22:59.17 | ALPHATT | gonna test in 20 mins |
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| 23:11.17 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster kd3|hate`net nevcairiel: be aware that wine 1.7.18 has a nasty regression which prevents hearthstone from running. |
| 23:11.28 | jleclanche | https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36216 |
| 23:12.18 | Arrowmaster | im still on 1.7.4 |
| 23:12.57 | Arrowmaster | and cant run hearthstone |
| 23:14.50 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: update to 1.7.16 |
| 23:14.55 | jleclanche | probably the best one to run hs with |
| 23:15.38 | Arrowmaster | let me download newest crossover and check its version of wine |
| 23:16.36 | Arrowmaster | who uses kvm? |
| 23:20.04 | Arrowmaster | hmm still 1.7.4 on crossover 13.1.3 |
| 23:20.21 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: you use kvm right? |
| 23:38.34 | Amarande | jleclanche: that's better than some clashes between wine and blizzard games :) |
| 23:38.59 | Amarande | sometimes in the past instead wine will apparently run the game perfectly only for you to find out the way it did something tripped warden and now you're banned :) |
| 23:39.28 | Amarande | (not really "you" or "I" here, of course, but it's apparently happened a number of times to a number of people) |
| 23:40.13 | ALPHATT | Does HS actually have a mac build btw? |
| 23:43.51 | jleclanche | yes |
| 23:43.56 | jleclanche | blizzard always releases on mac |
| 23:44.09 | jleclanche | Amarande: Im aware |
