| 00:03.10 | nebula169 | you only remember the shit you don't need |
| 00:05.58 | Primer | Silly Amarande, no one plays SW:TOR |
| 00:08.28 | jleclanche | Amarande: vial and book in the same one |
| 00:08.32 | jleclanche | even when im done it still laughs at me |
| 00:13.59 | Amarande | or that awful pun I made in Searing Gorge |
| 00:14.15 | Amarande | "You know why it's called a 'tuyere'? Because, tuyeres is how long it takes you to find one!" |
| 00:49.09 | Semlar | the login server is currently busy!? |
| 00:49.12 | Semlar | UNACCEPTABLE! |
| 00:50.54 | Esamynn|work | ~pwned Semlar |
| 00:51.00 | Semlar | :( |
| 00:51.10 | Esamynn|work | shucks, I was hoping for something good |
| 00:51.19 | airtonix | umad? |
| 00:51.32 | Esamynn|work | ~fishslap airtonix |
| 00:51.33 | purl | ACTION slaps airtonix up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 00:51.38 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:51.56 | Esamynn|work | hahah |
| 00:51.57 | airtonix | with your English (Full Edition) Glasses |
| 00:52.35 | airtonix | anyway chaps. |
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| 01:07.09 | Semlar | neffi what did you do |
| 01:07.20 | Semlar | FIX IT |
| 01:14.35 | Neffi | what |
| 01:14.52 | Neffi | wat is azeroth choppers? |
| 01:15.25 | Esamynn|work | are you really sure you want an answer to that question? |
| 01:15.42 | Neffi | no, I'm not |
| 01:16.16 | Esamynn|work | I've learned just enough about it to know I don't want to know anymore |
| 01:17.15 | pompy | http://www.videocorner.tv/videocorner2/live_flv/index.php?langue=en hopefully no scrubbin' for the 4th time! |
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| 01:36.43 | airtonix | aws needs to accept FriendPay |
| 01:37.24 | airtonix | also Claudia on Warehouse 13 has gained weight |
| 01:37.33 | A-KO | I'm sure she's still a cutey |
| 01:37.39 | airtonix | status update: combing my hair |
| 01:38.25 | airtonix | dude, i would totally sit down and have a civilised conversation while maintaining eye contact |
| 01:38.29 | airtonix | with her |
| 01:39.02 | TC-Work | Because she has no bewbs? |
| 01:39.15 | airtonix | i don't actually like big boobs |
| 01:39.43 | airtonix | i mean i wouldn't mind them... but yeah it's not on my list of priorities |
| 01:56.22 | Arrowmaster | finally got home, wasnt expecting overtime so soon |
| 02:00.17 | airtonix | till 10pm? |
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| 02:11.34 | Arrowmaster | airtonix: 9-8:30 but i have a 1.5 hour drive each way right now |
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| 02:14.30 | airtonix | do you find value in a 3hr drive? |
| 02:16.44 | TC-Work | He finds value on the other side of the drive. |
| 02:16.55 | TC-Work | And potentially, audio books. |
| 02:16.59 | airtonix | couldn't he get that value remotely? |
| 02:17.18 | TC-Work | I think it's a fair bit of grunt work |
| 02:20.53 | airtonix | well to use grunt just requires a terminal |
| 02:20.58 | airtonix | not a 3hr drive |
| 02:23.30 | Arrowmaster | TC-Work: dont you have a fairly long drive being in la? |
| 02:24.09 | TC-Work | Depends when I go to work but at most it's 45 min one way. |
| 02:42.17 | pompy | http://globalnews.ca/news/1297990/stranger-hacks-baby-monitor-screams-wake-up-baby-at-sleeping-child/ thats just fucking wrong! hahaha |
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| 04:43.21 | Razernok | What does ~= mean??? |
| 04:45.25 | MiRai | not equal |
| 04:46.26 | Razernok | ok thanks. i know its different in each programming lang |
| 04:46.53 | Razernok | I'm used to != meaning not equal |
| 04:48.19 | MiRai | nods |
| 04:48.22 | airtonix | that only means vaguely not equal to |
| 04:50.18 | znf | runs ocp with 50 threads |
| 04:50.28 | znf | let's see if this new server handles it :D |
| 04:51.52 | znf | 06:51:44 up 19:38, 2 users, load average: 48.23, 21.01, 7.99 |
| 04:51.54 | znf | still responsive |
| 04:53.50 | Neffi | that seems awfully high, znf |
| 04:54.00 | znf | Neffi, yeah, I'm running http://patrickmylund.com/projects/ocp/ |
| 04:54.03 | znf | with 60 threads :P |
| 04:54.08 | znf | to see how much can this handle |
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| 04:54.56 | Neffi | how many cores? |
| 04:54.59 | znf | 8 |
| 04:55.23 | znf | SSDs == master race! |
| 04:56.05 | znf | though MySQL is kind of having issues :-( |
| 04:56.15 | znf | "MySQL server has gone away" |
| 04:56.45 | Neffi | I'm surprised it's still responsive, unless I'm misunderstanding the numbers |
| 04:57.39 | znf | you're not http://i.imgur.com/vYO3uQF.png |
| 04:57.49 | airtonix | lol son, you used Master Race and MySQL in the same sentence.... |
| 04:57.52 | airtonix | HILARIOUS! |
| 04:58.14 | znf | airtonix, I didn't...? |
| 04:58.21 | airtonix | look like i care? |
| 04:58.30 | znf | actually you do |
| 04:58.37 | airtonix | this is my care face |
| 04:58.39 | Neffi | "atop" looks fancy |
| 04:58.51 | znf | yeah, it's nice |
| 04:58.55 | Neffi | I'm used to htop, which I like |
| 04:59.23 | znf | it even has an optional kernel module that can show you the network traffic of all your processes |
| 04:59.36 | airtonix | so why would you use patrick instead of nginx with caching turned on ? |
| 04:59.37 | znf | (though I haven't seen it being shipped on any distro so far) |
| 04:59.51 | znf | airtonix, one horror word: "cpanel". |
| 04:59.58 | airtonix | lol |
| 05:00.02 | airtonix | so get this |
| 05:00.26 | airtonix | if you are using hosting that has cpanel, then you dont need hosting... use heroku or some other git deploy hosting site |
| 05:00.47 | znf | airtonix, I'm using wordpress... |
| 05:00.48 | airtonix | if you need more control than git push, then you should be using AWS ec2 |
| 05:00.53 | airtonix | at which point you can use nginx |
| 05:01.05 | airtonix | wordpress deploys to heroku |
| 05:01.21 | airtonix | since they support php |
| 05:01.23 | znf | I doubt heroku would enjoy my huge wordpress install with 1.4mil visits/month |
| 05:02.08 | znf | wordpress "scales" incredibly shit |
| 05:02.47 | znf | I have to run caching plugins on this shit to keep it up |
| 05:03.02 | znf | else at 300-400 visitors online it takes 50+ seconds to generate a single damn page |
| 05:03.19 | znf | anyway, not my project, it's my completely atechnical aunt |
| 05:03.26 | airtonix | so you serve 34 hits a minute |
| 05:03.31 | airtonix | woopdy do |
| 05:03.48 | znf | on wordpress, that's a lot :D |
| 05:03.57 | airtonix | i'm pretty sure it's non factor for a free heroku node |
| 05:04.16 | airtonix | it's not even 1 hit a second |
| 05:04.24 | airtonix | come on guy |
| 05:04.26 | znf | "Because a file cannot be written to Heroku's file system, updating and installing plugins or themes should be done locally and then pushed to Heroku." |
| 05:04.30 | znf | that's already a deal breaker :P |
| 05:04.39 | znf | want to explain to my aunt who changes 5 plugins / month around how to do that? :D |
| 05:04.55 | airtonix | why the fuck are you changing shit on a live server |
| 05:05.03 | airtonix | seriously what the actual fuck |
| 05:05.07 | airtonix | rages |
| 05:05.10 | Primer | because it's meant to be done like that? |
| 05:05.11 | airtonix | FUUUUUUU |
| 05:05.12 | znf | I'm reminding you: "aunt", "atechnical" |
| 05:05.21 | airtonix | no primer... it is not. |
| 05:05.29 | airtonix | wordpress is not how shit is supposed to be done |
| 05:05.31 | Primer | you're doing it wrong |
| 05:05.37 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 05:05.39 | znf | yeah, wordpress is not |
| 05:05.43 | znf | I agree with you on that |
| 05:05.47 | airtonix | but |
| 05:05.52 | znf | But it's the most flexible and easy to pick up CMS out there. |
| 05:05.57 | Neffi | If she's atechnical why doesn't she have a webmaster doing this stuff for her? |
| 05:06.04 | airtonix | https://github.com/roots/roots |
| 05:06.11 | airtonix | Primer: znf ^ |
| 05:06.19 | znf | Considering she's been all alone in this and managed to get this website to 1.4mil/month, it's quite an amazing feat, tbh |
| 05:06.25 | airtonix | https://github.com/roots/bedrock |
| 05:06.27 | airtonix | actually that |
| 05:06.30 | znf | Neffi, I try to help whenever I can, but I can't be at her disposal full time |
| 05:06.32 | Primer | I'll pass |
| 05:07.00 | airtonix | znf: yes that traffic is good. but it's totally within the capability of a single heroku worker |
| 05:07.18 | znf | Neffi, also, she lives in greece; and somehow all the people she had helping her so far are completely crazy/stupid/insert-something-here |
| 05:07.33 | znf | it's like that whole country lacks technical people who have any idea what they're doing |
| 05:07.38 | airtonix | which is why she is using wordpress |
| 05:07.43 | znf | exactly :) |
| 05:07.44 | airtonix | because fucking dumb shit reasons |
| 05:08.01 | airtonix | fuck i hate wordpres and its stupid workflow |
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| 05:08.06 | airtonix | drupal too |
| 05:08.14 | airtonix | and anything else php from that timeframe |
| 05:08.16 | znf | Anyway, she's earning around ~1400-1800€/month from adsense, so she's doing something good :P |
| 05:08.23 | airtonix | nice |
| 05:08.34 | airtonix | especially in greece |
| 05:08.36 | Neffi | well, if one was looking to use a CMS, what would you recommend? jw |
| 05:08.38 | znf | + other ads she sells on separate |
| 05:08.48 | znf | (to separate customers, I mean) |
| 05:09.31 | znf | I'm really conflicted about CMSs. I like Wordpress for it's flexibility, but, like I said, it doesn't scale well at all. |
| 05:09.40 | airtonix | it could |
| 05:09.48 | airtonix | but the people who made it are fucking idiots |
| 05:09.55 | znf | true, plus community plugins |
| 05:10.23 | znf | she used to have a retarded "recently popular" or something like that plugin, when it was active, generating index.php took _50seconds_ |
| 05:10.38 | airtonix | and the lead guy is gone onto make EXACTLY the same mistakes in Ghost |
| 05:10.55 | airtonix | "herp derp, lets hardcode database dependancy...lol" |
| 05:11.03 | znf | I'm like, how the fuck can you code something *that* badly for a single thing to increase the load that way |
| 05:11.04 | MiRai | airtonix: I'm not a programmer nor do I know much Lua, but how would you define '~=' then? |
| 05:11.20 | kd3 | not equal? |
| 05:11.23 | znf | != |
| 05:11.26 | MiRai | that's what I said |
| 05:11.31 | znf | or <> ? |
| 05:11.32 | Shirik | <> |
| 05:11.34 | Shirik | damn it |
| 05:11.36 | kd3 | if you want to go old... <> |
| 05:11.36 | kd3 | bah |
| 05:12.05 | Shirik | I was eating chips :( it's not fair |
| 05:12.08 | znf | oh great |
| 05:12.13 | znf | I managed to crash Opcache |
| 05:12.14 | znf | how the fuck |
| 05:12.19 | airtonix | MiRai: the point i was loosely getting at was type checking |
| 05:12.34 | Shirik | oh, Iriel, remember our discussion yesterday? |
| 05:12.40 | Shirik | I found the solution that meets my needs, I think |
| 05:12.50 | Shirik | don't hate me... but ASN.1 |
| 05:13.21 | airtonix | selling fresh shirik, $1 a barrel. roll up. |
| 05:13.25 | znf | meh, Zend Opcache is useless with fcgi :-/ |
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| 05:13.33 | znf | unless I do php-fpm |
| 05:13.36 | Iriel | Shirik: freak 8-) |
| 05:13.44 | Iriel | Shirik: but hey, whatever works for you |
| 05:13.49 | znf | and I have no idea how to do php-fpm with cpanel :-/ |
| 05:14.03 | Shirik | I only have one small problem with it and I don't think I have to solve it now |
| 05:14.24 | Shirik | ASN.1 has a limitation (sorta) of about 16000 fields. Theoretically my protocol shouldn't have that limitation. |
| 05:14.39 | Shirik | In reality I don't think it will matter, but I'm trying to conform to a standard. |
| 05:15.02 | Neffi | wtf did they do to mbam? |
| 05:15.22 | Neffi | I'm trying to just scan 1 folder with 2 files, and it's scanned over 200,000 objects |
| 05:15.30 | Shirik | someone created stilletos with a thousand year warranty |
| 05:15.50 | Shirik | "will not 'age, wear, or deteriorate in any way'" |
| 05:15.55 | znf | airtonix, the one person I would like to choke to death is the guy who started this cPanel shit |
| 05:15.58 | znf | I hate it so fuckin' much |
| 05:16.14 | Shirik | lol |
| 05:16.16 | Shirik | oh god yes |
| 05:17.43 | znf | Hmmm. I'm actually considering not using varnish anymore with this new server |
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| 05:48.56 | airtonix | i personally feel varnish is a complicated beast |
| 05:49.02 | airtonix | i haven't worked with it yet though |
| 05:49.12 | airtonix | nginx has done the job so far |
| 05:49.35 | airtonix | guy i worked with swears by it though |
| 05:49.51 | airtonix | and i respect his opinion in most things web, so it must be good |
| 05:51.14 | airtonix | but i just feel its up there with Solr, Lucene in terms of complexity of confuration setup |
| 05:57.38 | Thunder_Child | I kept coming across solr when I was looking fo fieldr auto-complete stuff today. |
| 05:57.57 | Thunder_Child | Although that was possibly due to my poor google-fu earlier. |
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| 06:13.20 | airtonix | http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/24bs3e/til_that_harvard_earns_enough_money_on_interest/ |
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| 06:45.55 | znf | dear god, I can't understand how they screwed up byobu so badly :-/ |
| 06:45.59 | znf | I used to like it :( |
| 06:46.32 | znf | now, the manual says "Ctrl+F2" splits the screen, but it does nothing :-/ |
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| 06:49.22 | Thunder_Child | check the key mapping. |
| 06:51.23 | znf | the keybindings file you mean? |
| 06:52.10 | znf | the only key(s) working are F5 which refreshes the status gadgets and F9 for config; Nothing else in the manual seems to be working :( |
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| 08:05.42 | airtonix | so this is a thing: http://zachbruggeman.me/dogescript/ |
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| 08:10.19 | zenzio | you sound surprised |
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| 08:21.45 | karl_w_w | doge is love, doge is life |
| 08:23.39 | zenzio | doge is lame |
| 08:23.47 | zenzio | but then that could be said of most memes |
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| 08:40.52 | airtonix | did you say mums |
| 08:41.02 | airtonix | such hate |
| 08:41.20 | airtonix | much frued |
| 08:46.57 | karl_w_w | wow |
| 08:47.15 | airtonix | http://i.imgur.com/h5WuF5W.gif |
| 08:47.31 | airtonix | i lol'd |
| 08:48.07 | karl_w_w | I don't understand |
| 08:48.15 | haste | the beard rubbing in the background |
| 08:48.43 | airtonix | ^ |
| 08:48.58 | karl_w_w | haha |
| 08:49.10 | karl_w_w | I was completely focused on his chip sorting |
| 08:50.35 | airtonix | http://instagram.com/danbilzerian# |
| 08:50.39 | airtonix | i think that's him |
| 08:51.11 | airtonix | look at this asshole |
| 08:51.19 | airtonix | keeps a magnificent beard |
| 08:51.26 | airtonix | denys his cat the same pleasure |
| 08:52.09 | airtonix | only I, Fabio may tote such beard. |
| 08:52.19 | airtonix | cat: "asshole" |
| 08:55.36 | zenzio | http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-ouch-23162903 |
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| 09:40.57 | karl_w_w | I got an email from amazon, subject line "H. G. Wells's New Book" |
| 09:51.59 | Maldivia | he's only been dead for, what, 70ish years? |
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| 09:59.07 | zenzio | Maldivia: that's what he wanted you to think |
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| 10:33.48 | karl_w_w | it's easy to fake your own death when you have a time machine |
| 10:34.22 | zenzio | "Doing this all day leaves you in a state of mild aphasia as you look at people's faces while they're speaking and you don't know they've finished because there's no semicolon." |
| 10:37.05 | zenzio | probably posted already: http://stilldrinking.org/programming-sucks |
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| 13:39.35 | Lopeppeppy | Raise your clammy hand if you are a zombie. |
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| 13:53.58 | Fisker | aww Lopeppeppy |
| 13:54.06 | Fisker | specist |
| 13:55.48 | Lopeppeppy | I am an IST! |
| 13:56.47 | Fisker | :O |
| 14:01.07 | zenzio | "'The tabs are sleek and smooth to help you navigate the Web faster'. Well that's a fucking relief. I've been slogging awa with these slightly squarer tabs for months and my productivity has been in the toilet as a result." |
| 14:04.00 | harl | ^^ |
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| 14:05.14 | Lopeppeppy | Seriously. The square corners of those tabs just catch on everything! O-M-G I could just die. |
| 14:05.37 | zenzio | :) |
| 14:42.02 | Dagmar | That shit ruined three of my sweaters this winter |
| 14:43.21 | Lopeppeppy | And just think of the fortune that women spend on stockings because of this plague of sharp cornered browsers. |
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| 15:06.49 | Ackis | some silly anime is free on xbox right now: https://video.xbox.com/featured-tv-season/d6d2d482-9d0c-46d8-ab34-dd2b7a5fb42d |
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| 15:35.36 | Fisker | Lopeppeppy hehehehehe |
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| 15:45.52 | Lopeppeppy | Oh god save me from Webtrends. |
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| 16:36.44 | jleclanche | Dagmar Fisker: I need your opinion on something |
| 16:37.22 | Fisker | K |
| 16:37.41 | jleclanche | lxde.org is looking for a new web service host. We pull in a few gigabytes of traffic per month, have several different web services (wiki, forum, mailing list, git etc) and a super low budget |
| 16:37.55 | jleclanche | any idea? |
| 16:38.56 | Fisker | Not really I use hetzner but have no other experience there |
| 16:42.00 | Dagmar | Not really aside from just to say that Dreamhost is real cheap |
| 16:42.47 | Dagmar | I've got a guild site up there where i'm using all their "automatic" binaries because the impact of a site used by 30 people being compromised is lol |
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| 16:43.28 | jleclanche | Dagmar: dreamhost seems to be very US centric |
| 16:43.32 | jleclanche | are they any good? |
| 16:44.11 | Dagmar | Well, they're pretty good for the ~$110/year I'm payin |
| 16:45.02 | jleclanche | Dagmar: whats their "unique ip address" upgrade? |
| 16:49.54 | Dagmar | My guess is a dedicated VM |
| 16:50.05 | Dagmar | ...or at least a dedicated interface. |
| 16:50.48 | Dagmar | My interaction with them consists of occasionally logging into a shell to back some things up, and mainly jus thitting the admin interface a couple of times a year to make sure things are updating without my intervention like they're supposed to |
| 16:55.01 | Shirik | ha |
| 16:55.03 | Shirik | "In a combative statement James Watt, co-founder of BrewDog, said: “On behalf of BrewDog PLC and its 14,691 individual shareholders, I would like to issue a formal apology to the Portman Group for not giving a shit about today’s ruling. Indeed, we are sorry for never giving a shit about anything the Portman Group has to say, and treating all of its statements with callous indifference and nonchalance.”" |
| 16:55.15 | Shirik | http://m.thedrum.com/news/2014/04/29/brewdog-apologises-portman-group-not-giving-shit-over-marketing-rules-breach#QUTVerhrrud5mqLm.03 |
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| 17:26.36 | Lopeppeppy | My general contractor is awesome. He just dug a 20+ year old drill bit out of my bathroom wall. Now I have to ask what the gibbering frell it was doing there... |
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| 17:33.22 | Fisker | I don't dig in walls |
| 17:36.14 | TC-Work | Assuming he knows why Lopeppeppy. |
| 17:37.07 | Lopeppeppy | He presented it as a souvenir of his labours with no comment. |
| 17:37.52 | Lopeppeppy | But this is the house where phone cord was strung through the walls, including a connector.. to a room with a working phone jack. So he's found weirder stuff in our walls. |
| 17:40.17 | Esamynn|work | Lopeppeppy: well why do you put strange things in your walls? :P |
| 17:40.48 | Lopeppeppy | 20 year old junk, Esamynn|work. It's older than when The Boyfriend bought the house, we didn't put it there. |
| 17:42.31 | Esamynn|work | uh huh... sure sure |
| 17:42.33 | Esamynn|work | likely story |
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| 18:05.01 | Semlar | that drill bit was probably holding up the wall |
| 18:07.27 | Neffi | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:13.48 | TC-Work | Anyone know why you would do (Math.random() * 6) + 1 as opposed to Math.random() * (1 - 6)? This is JS but I assume the question could be in any language. |
| 18:14.39 | kd3 | the latter gets you a value from [-5,0)? |
| 18:15.00 | TC-Work | the latter in () is a range |
| 18:15.21 | nevcairiel | no, its 1 minus 6 |
| 18:15.22 | nevcairiel | :P |
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| 18:15.46 | TC-Work | Oh, so it is |
| 18:16.31 | Semlar | yeah, two very different results |
| 18:18.47 | Semlar | the + 1 is to make sure it can't be 0 |
| 18:19.29 | TC-Work | Right, but I can't seem to find where it is constraining the numbers. |
| 18:19.46 | Semlar | math.random returns a value from 0 to 1 |
| 18:19.49 | kd3 | math.random returns a value between [0,1) |
| 18:19.56 | Semlar | it's being multiplied by 6 to get a value between 0 and 6 |
| 18:20.23 | Semlar | typically the value would be floored |
| 18:20.28 | Semlar | so you get a whole number |
| 18:20.31 | TC-Work | Yea, it is. Now it all makes sense |
| 18:20.32 | TC-Work | thanks |
| 18:20.55 | Semlar | so ultimately the range is 1-6 |
| 18:21.08 | Semlar | because i don't think random can be 1 |
| 18:21.18 | kd3 | [1,7) if you don't floor it. you can get 6.9999999 |
| 18:21.42 | Semlar | if it's being floored it's 1-6 though |
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| 18:24.14 | kd3|hate`net | grr modem |
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| 18:48.38 | jleclanche | man the linkedin thread on hn |
| 18:48.47 | jleclanche | its sad how many people still use linkedin |
| 18:48.51 | jleclanche | and lol: I think any statement of the form "a person who doesn't use product X is necessarily a bad candidate" is absurd, unless product X is something like disinfectant and the job is something like doctor. |
| 18:54.28 | TC-Work | Well now you are just drawing lines in the sand |
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| 19:12.08 | Neffi | Just to make sure I have the right of it: say I wanted to migrate a Linux install (Arch) from one machine to another, it should be sufficient to copy the contents of each filesystem over, update my fstab for the new UUIDs, regen my initramfs and install a bootloader on the new disk, correct? |
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| 19:12.28 | Neffi | And of course install the correct drivers for the new machine |
| 19:12.48 | Gnarfoz | sounds about right? |
| 19:13.08 | Neffi | Seems correct to me, as long as I preserve links. Just wanted to make sure I wasnt forgetting anything |
| 19:14.44 | TC-Work | Or just make an image? |
| 19:15.42 | Gnarfoz | possibly differently sized disks? :] |
| 19:15.50 | Neffi | Well the partition layout might change, UUIDs will differ, and a new initramfs should still be necessary |
| 19:16.07 | kd3|hate`net | if it's bigger, you can just expand the filesystem to fit the partition? |
| 19:16.13 | Gnarfoz | UUIDs would not differ if you used images, but... the other part's true |
| 19:16.20 | Neffi | Also this is EFI so the bootloader needs to re-insert iself into the new EFI loader |
| 19:16.25 | Gnarfoz | if your filesystem supports that kind of stuff (: |
| 19:16.42 | Gnarfoz | that's something it needs to do regardless of image or no image |
| 19:16.56 | Gnarfoz | (I think) |
| 19:17.10 | Neffi | Actually it technically shouldn't have to. As long as gummiboot's loader resides at bootx64.efi, I believe |
| 19:17.27 | Gnarfoz | rofl gummiboot |
| 19:17.46 | Neffi | gummiboot's nice if you don't need the features of grub |
| 19:17.58 | Gnarfoz | I'm laughing at the name |
| 19:18.10 | Gnarfoz | is it hot red? |
| 19:18.18 | Neffi | <_< |
| 19:18.49 | Neffi | It's the loader that the Fedora live CD uses on EFI. About as simple as it can get. But it's not technically a bootloader, just an EFI image loader |
| 19:19.45 | Gnarfoz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gll6OhyYVFg |
| 19:19.54 | Gnarfoz | namesake ;-) |
| 19:20.05 | Neffi | o.O I had no idea |
| 19:20.09 | Gnarfoz | German peoples at work, I bet |
| 19:20.26 | Neffi | probably |
| 19:21.21 | Gnarfoz | yepyep |
| 19:21.27 | Gnarfoz | Kay Sievers, Harald Hoyer |
| 19:22.04 | Gnarfoz | German Wikipedia sucks and doesn't even have an entry for it |
| 19:22.19 | Neffi | yeah. they're both German according to en wiki |
| 19:22.45 | Gnarfoz | I should find something to do that doesn't require the internets |
| 19:22.52 | Neffi | read a book |
| 19:23.01 | Gnarfoz | that's probably what I'm going to do |
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| 19:23.20 | Gnarfoz | still have ASoIaF 4 & 5 to go |
| 19:24.35 | Neffi | slackin' |
| 19:24.41 | Gnarfoz | my DSL contract ended today (and apparently they were quick about it, it was down at about 07:30) but the tech to connect/set up/whatever the hell he needs to do that can't be automated only comes on Friday |
| 19:24.54 | Gnarfoz | and tomorrow is labour day |
| 19:25.20 | Neffi | D: |
| 19:25.23 | Gnarfoz | so... still ~35 hours with only tethering to keep me online \o/ |
| 19:25.38 | Gnarfoz | oh I mangled that long sentence |
| 19:26.22 | Gnarfoz | I'm switching to VDSL (and a different ISP) |
| 19:28.18 | kd3 | holy crap at the rain that pensacola got last night: https://imgur.com/gIny7eC |
| 19:30.55 | Gnarfoz | seems wet |
| 19:31.24 | kd3 | that bridge is ~25 feet above water normally. it was raining so hard that the storm drains couldn't keep up |
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| 19:40.10 | Semlar | not quite so wet in orlando |
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| 20:37.09 | Shirik | ... |
| 20:37.20 | Kodiack | !!! |
| 20:38.34 | Shirik | someone put a video inside of their X.509 certificate |
| 20:38.38 | Shirik | just to prove you can put anything inside it |
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| 20:40.38 | Alram | sounds like something Fisker would pull |
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| 20:42.13 | Shirik | I kinda want to do it now |
| 20:42.40 | Shirik | I could argue it's for two-factor authentication with facial recognition systems |
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| 20:44.30 | Shirik | yay! http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/facebook-let-users-log-anonymously-n93766 |
| 20:44.41 | Shirik | Unfortunately I suspect developers will go "BUT WE WANT ALL THAT FREE INFO" and not support it |
| 20:45.53 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt be surprised if some legal things forced them to pursue such a course |
| 20:46.06 | nevcairiel | facebook gets sued on a weekly basis these days on privacy matters |
| 20:46.41 | Shirik | in other news |
| 20:46.49 | Shirik | today, half our doors wouldn't unlock with badge access |
| 20:47.02 | Shirik | the entire building turned into a maze of trying to figure out how to get from one place to another while avoiding the locked doors |
| 20:49.01 | nevcairiel | sounds fun |
| 20:49.05 | TC-Work | Human maze. |
| 20:49.14 | TC-Work | I wonder if someone was collecting information on that. |
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| 21:36.27 | Razernok | Can someone tell me what a surrogate is in wow addons? I can't figure it out and google turns up nothing on it. |
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| 21:40.45 | Razernok | I guess no one knows then :( |
| 21:44.06 | Neffi | Razernok: where did you hear that term? |
| 21:44.31 | Razernok | something to do with action bars |
| 21:44.39 | Razernok | that's all i know |
| 21:44.51 | Razernok | its being used in the Razer Naga addon |
| 21:45.20 | kd3 | they may call it something nonstandard. what are they using "surrogates" for? |
| 21:45.22 | Neffi | well it's a term they chose. |
| 21:45.38 | Razernok | it appears to be for action bars |
| 21:45.53 | kd3 | the only term I can think of that's close is "delegate", but that's what .net calls event callbacks |
| 21:45.54 | Razernok | I can't figure it out |
| 21:46.47 | Torhal | kd3: o.O |
| 21:47.21 | Torhal | kd3: They CAN be defined for event callbacks, but they're much more than that. |
| 21:47.54 | Razernok | I can't figure out what is going on with this surrogates stuff in the addon |
| 21:51.37 | Semlar | surrogate just means substitute |
| 21:51.46 | Semlar | you'd need more context |
| 21:53.25 | Razernok | I never see a point in the addon where they move the actually action bar buttons which is the main function of the addon |
| 21:55.52 | Semlar | i think the main function of the addon is to bind keys to the mouse |
| 21:57.01 | Razernok | it also moves the action bars and their buttons to form a 3x4 grid. but no where in the coding does it show it actually doing so. |
| 21:57.25 | Semlar | well there's a drag.lua |
| 21:57.39 | mikma | hey kids, wanna buy some drug.lua? |
| 21:59.03 | Semlar | and it looks like every bar has default anchors |
| 21:59.20 | Razernok | the addon moves the action bars to where the player placed them from the last time they logged out |
| 21:59.39 | Semlar | the addon doesn't need to remember that information |
| 21:59.56 | kd3 | wow has a built-in way of doing that for frames. not all addons utilize that |
| 21:59.59 | Semlar | if you use SetUserPlaced on a named frame it remembers it |
| 22:00.11 | Razernok | yea it does. and it actually does if you move one and logout then view the saved variables |
| 22:02.11 | Semlar | are you looking at this addon to try and figure out how to get your action bars to stay where you want them |
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| 22:03.22 | Razernok | I'm looking at it to figure out the best way to code mine to set locations on the screen. And have 10 actions bars for the player (if they want them) |
| 22:03.51 | Semlar | then you should probably create your own action bars instead of moving the blizzard ones |
| 22:04.45 | Razernok | I thought you just move the action bars and Show() the other 5 action bars |
| 22:05.05 | Razernok | I know there is a total of 10 action bars from blizzard |
| 22:06.18 | Razernok | I figured the default blizzard UI only shows the first 5 action bars but if you do something like ActionBar6:Show() you can show the other 5 bars |
| 22:12.53 | pompy | le sigh. |
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| 22:21.59 | airtonix | hey Semlar, i want to reinvent the wheel. |
| 22:22.03 | airtonix | interested? |
| 22:23.18 | Semlar-Laptop | ya |
| 22:23.37 | Semlar-Laptop | i love reinventing things |
| 22:25.03 | Semlar-Laptop | i had to leave so the last thing i saw was that he wanted to show 10 of the default blizzard action bars which i'm not sure even exist |
| 22:54.06 | pompy | http://www.nasa.gov/content/groundbreaking-technology-may-add-years-to-earth-orbiting-satellites/#.U2F-07Re6Un nicee |
| 23:05.52 | pompy | http://www.ustream.tv/channel/iss-hdev-payload HD earth viewing experiment! |
| 23:21.15 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: thanks again fro Fargo. It's excellent. |
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| 23:41.50 | airtonix | anything is better than "under the dome" |
| 23:42.14 | Stanzilla | I like that |
| 23:42.24 | airtonix | i like you |
| 23:48.47 | Neffi | linux dudes: any idea why this is happening? http://i.imgur.com/LNx8DgL.png (see the first command: the quotation marks are the incorrect character) |
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| 23:49.13 | Neffi | a few other characters appear incorrect too, but I cant recall which |
| 23:49.41 | Semlar | it's all greek to me |
| 23:50.04 | MiRai | I'm trying to move the combo points on an oUF target frame, but I can't figure out which SetPoint I should be adjusting -- If anyone could take a quick look? http://privatepaste.com/d972008205/789bd |
| 23:51.12 | Semlar | well point seems to represent an individual combo point |
| 23:51.44 | Neffi | barFrame:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", self, "BOTTOMLEFT", 0, -5) |
| 23:51.48 | Neffi | that will move them all as a whole |
| 23:51.57 | Semlar | are you sure |
| 23:52.02 | Semlar | the first point is being anchored to self.Health |
| 23:52.09 | Neffi | this line positions them relative to each other, so add extra args to move them further apart if i > 1 then point:SetPoint("LEFT", point[i - 1], "RIGHT") end |
| 23:52.14 | Semlar | and i think the rest are anchored to the previous point |
| 23:52.29 | MiRai | Yeah, I'm a little confused, but I've done this before |
| 23:52.37 | MiRai | Neffi: changed the line to: barFrame:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", self, "BOTTOMLEFT", 50, -55) |
| 23:52.39 | MiRai | they didn't move heh |
| 23:52.45 | Neffi | actually semlar's right |
| 23:52.58 | Semlar | >_> |
| 23:53.00 | Neffi | see down further. the clause if (i == 1) then |
| 23:53.04 | Neffi | those two blocks |
| 23:53.22 | Semlar | try changing the first point's anchor |
| 23:53.37 | Semlar | the rest just seem to be anchored 6 pixels to the right of the previous point |
| 23:53.53 | airtonix | Neffi: first. you're missing -p |
| 23:54.09 | airtonix | mkdir something/something/something/darkside -p |
| 23:54.17 | Neffi | alias mkdir='mkdir -p' |
| 23:54.25 | airtonix | stop being bad |
| 23:54.28 | Neffi | -p -v actually |
| 23:54.36 | airtonix | bad |
| 23:54.36 | Semlar | change point:SetPoint('BOTTOMLEFT', self.Health, 'TOPLEFT', 5, 13) to something else |
| 23:54.37 | MiRai | added 50 to each of those SetPoints under (i == 1), no change after a reload |
| 23:54.43 | Neffi | airtonix: umad? |
| 23:54.47 | airtonix | sobad |
| 23:54.51 | Neffi | somad |
| 23:54.52 | Semlar | no change? |
| 23:54.57 | MiRai | nothing |
| 23:55.06 | Semlar | are you sure this is being loaded |
| 23:55.08 | airtonix | Neffi: also your ui sucks |
| 23:55.08 | MiRai | I feel dumb adjusting these values with no change heh |
| 23:55.14 | Semlar | delete everything and reload it |
| 23:55.19 | Neffi | airtonix: why u say that? D: |
| 23:55.31 | airtonix | not enough glossy bouncing buttons |
| 23:55.40 | MiRai | Semlar: Give me a second to make sure this is the correct lua file >_> |
| 23:55.40 | Neffi | no X yet |
| 23:55.47 | airtonix | needs more bootstrap 4.5 |
| 23:55.54 | Neffi | but there will be bounding buttons and spinnan cubes |
| 23:56.26 | Semlar | bootstraps neffi to the chair |
| 23:56.38 | MiRai | Semlar: Yeah, it wasn't the right file -_- Thanks... disaster averted ;) |
| 23:56.42 | Semlar | ^_^ |
| 23:59.10 | Semlar | neffi i have jury duty on monday |
| 23:59.27 | Semlar | wanna come? |
