| 00:24.04 | Dagmar | Neffi: Who buys foam swords except for maybe the SCA people? |
| 00:26.54 | Neffi | i dont know D: |
| 00:26.56 | Neffi | i dont larp |
| 00:27.03 | Semlar | larps neffi |
| 00:27.18 | Neffi | oww, that hurt. you're not supposed to use a real sword |
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| 00:38.03 | Semlar | it's just a flesh wound |
| 00:41.33 | Neffi | tis but a scratch /tipsfedora |
| 00:45.15 | Dagmar | DId we forget there was a zombie apocalypse ongoing? |
| 00:45.43 | Dagmar | Personally, I'd rather delude myself into thinking I was LARPing in hardcore mode than to deal with that |
| 00:46.03 | Dagmar | I have enough trouble sleeping without worrying about hordes of ravenous undead |
| 00:47.15 | airtonix | no such thing as undead |
| 00:47.26 | airtonix | only olympians jumped up on bath salts |
| 00:47.46 | Dagmar | I don't care what people say. I'm not going to call them the "metabolically challenged" |
| 00:48.09 | airtonix | dean hall has already proved this with the exceptionally perfect life simulator that can't be cheated except by extremely hardcore talented "hackers" |
| 00:48.52 | airtonix | if it were possible to have undead, then a life simulator wouldn't have sprinting bath salt addicts |
| 00:49.08 | airtonix | therefore. undead are not possible. |
| 00:51.01 | Dagmar | Give me a frog, a 8v battery, and a few simple components and I'll challnge that |
| 00:52.04 | airtonix | no. |
| 00:52.09 | airtonix | you would be delusional |
| 00:52.27 | airtonix | because dean hall is obviously the pinnacle of game developers that simulate reality |
| 00:52.41 | airtonix | how dare you question cannon |
| 00:52.54 | airtonix | i'm reporting you to the spanish |
| 00:53.47 | Dagmar | So... tell me how it is you make pants? |
| 00:54.02 | airtonix | i start with hats |
| 00:54.05 | Dagmar | Heh |
| 00:54.24 | airtonix | come on guy |
| 00:57.26 | kd3 | guh. left at 5:30 to pick my parents up at the airport. was chilling in the cell phone lot and I couldn't get the car to turn over after they got their baggage. just now got home |
| 00:57.57 | Dagmar | cell phone lot? |
| 00:58.36 | airtonix | it's where people are allowed to use only the 9 keys instead of waiting till they get to a superior typing device |
| 00:58.57 | airtonix | normally we execute those people on site |
| 00:59.10 | kd3 | short term parking without having to pay anything. you're there on your cellphone waiting on the person you're picking up to get through baggage claim |
| 00:59.18 | Dagmar | Ahhh |
| 01:02.32 | Semlar | yeah there's usually satellite parking you can chill at while you wait for the person to call you |
| 01:03.32 | Arrowmaster | kd3: has the same problem at 5am this morning, engine would crank for a second then die |
| 01:03.54 | Arrowmaster | i was so pissed since i had this problem during the winter and had to get the battery and fullpump replaced |
| 01:04.04 | kd3 | oof |
| 01:04.32 | airtonix | obviously broken threps |
| 01:04.46 | Mr_Rabies | was hartsfield a nightmare as usual |
| 01:05.14 | Arrowmaster | battery was still under warranty though during the winter and still is now for another 1.5 years, but i could hear the fuel pump running this time, luckly i didnt take the portable jump starter out of my trunk and it started with that attached |
| 01:06.09 | kd3 | worse; they're completely redoing the whole traffic infrastructure |
| 01:06.14 | Mr_Rabies | oh boy |
| 01:06.17 | kd3 | I was stuck on camp creek trying to get on the property for 10 minutes |
| 01:06.18 | Mr_Rabies | always good |
| 01:06.48 | kd3 | the security guy was complaining too. he got there like 30 minutes after he was dispatched and blamed it on traffic |
| 01:06.50 | Mr_Rabies | construction in atlanta basically means at least one exit ramp will be a parking lot until it's done |
| 01:07.23 | kd3 | it wouldn't have been so bad if they didn't have us go from 3 lanes down to 1 in the span of ~100 feet |
| 01:07.31 | Mr_Rabies | yuuup |
| 01:17.52 | airtonix | you guys are the best at construction |
| 01:18.19 | airtonix | time to get a haircut i think |
| 01:18.36 | Mr_Rabies | how about all the one-way roads that sometimes turn into one way roads going the other direction at intersections |
| 01:18.51 | airtonix | woah guy |
| 01:19.06 | airtonix | i never said you were good at planning |
| 01:19.22 | airtonix | what do they call that? |
| 01:19.30 | airtonix | council planning? |
| 01:19.45 | airtonix | domestic architects? |
| 01:23.59 | Shirik | I really do not understand the purpose of Vine |
| 01:24.11 | Shirik | it's like YouTube and Twitter got together and had a baby |
| 01:24.15 | Shirik | 140 character videos |
| 01:26.58 | Arrowmaster | i dont think ive ever actually went to it yet |
| 01:28.03 | airtonix | says the guy who uses gyaz |
| 01:30.38 | Shirik | airtonix: find me a better service and I'll use it |
| 01:31.00 | Shirik | and by better service I mean "something that lets me take and upload a screenshot at the click of a button" |
| 01:32.41 | airtonix | i just use inotify on my ~/Pictures directory to upload to imgure |
| 01:32.58 | kd3 | ^ but to my domain |
| 01:33.05 | Shirik | still would require you to save it |
| 01:33.09 | airtonix | nah |
| 01:33.16 | airtonix | gnome shell screen shot tool is awesome |
| 01:33.32 | airtonix | i also have similar thing for ~/videos |
| 01:33.44 | airtonix | because gnome shell video capture is also awesome |
| 01:34.22 | airtonix | also this is how japanese inventions are born: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTHOjjZLung |
| 01:34.43 | airtonix | and : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCDhwKXmvtk |
| 01:35.35 | Shirik | wtf |
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| 02:01.38 | znf | Shirik, if you're on Windows - ShareX |
| 02:01.43 | znf | but you're most likely not :P |
| 02:02.23 | Thunder_Child | Why aer you people trying to help him share stuff? |
| 02:02.27 | Thunder_Child | are* |
| 02:02.48 | Thunder_Child | It should be something difficult so it does not happen as much |
| 02:02.57 | pompy | dropbox basically does that now |
| 02:03.40 | phelps | http://phelpsio.fwd.wf/wowuidev |
| 02:04.08 | phelps | its a collaborative etch-a-sketch |
| 02:04.20 | phelps | for now |
| 02:06.26 | znf | ok |
| 02:07.07 | phelps | just testing, making sure the socket works |
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| 02:08.29 | znf | I didn't like the canvas color |
| 02:12.07 | phelps | heh |
| 02:12.31 | phelps | it'll go as big as you make it |
| 02:13.03 | znf | yes |
| 02:13.07 | znf | setSize() |
| 02:13.12 | phelps | yes |
| 02:17.55 | phelps | open the console and run setSize(100) if you wanna clear it |
| 02:17.58 | phelps | until I add a clear button |
| 02:18.19 | phelps | I'm going to add stuff for learning math, thats the goal |
| 02:20.22 | znf | FOR THE HORDE! |
| 02:20.29 | znf | wait, wat |
| 02:20.37 | znf | Uncaught SecurityError: Failed to execute 'toDataURL' on 'HTMLCanvasElement': Tainted canvases may not be exported. |
| 02:20.38 | znf | :-( |
| 02:22.17 | phelps | lol |
| 02:22.45 | Neffi | should add the ability to see how many other people are using it |
| 02:22.51 | phelps | yeah |
| 02:22.58 | znf | GoT is up |
| 02:23.00 | phelps | and ability to see where you/they are |
| 02:23.06 | phelps | OPOPOP |
| 02:23.14 | znf | ehm, I mean, got just finished airing, you know |
| 02:23.16 | phelps | BTN always has it fast |
| 02:23.42 | Neffi | ah fuck i forgot GoT |
| 02:23.54 | phelps | [ DL ] MP4 / x264 / HDTV / SD / Scene |
| 02:23.57 | phelps | is all they got atm |
| 02:24.08 | phelps | will wait for 720 |
| 02:24.21 | Neffi | phd has 720 from killers |
| 02:24.37 | Neffi | i hate not being one of the first to snatch. my ratio was going so high |
| 02:24.40 | znf | drawImage(img, 0, 0); |
| 02:24.41 | znf | erm |
| 02:24.47 | Neffi | 76.6 on last week's episode |
| 02:24.54 | znf | FTV has it fast :P |
| 02:25.33 | znf | well, everything has it, by now |
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| 03:06.58 | znf | Is there a way, with suf, to stop displaying OmniCC timers on my own auras? Or filter my own auras from a target? |
| 03:14.25 | pompy | "According to Hryb, progress made and content purchased during the open beta period transfers over to the full game." |
| 03:14.27 | pompy | wtf Crytek |
| 03:14.34 | pompy | who does that!? |
| 03:17.18 | Arrowmaster | what game? |
| 03:20.33 | pompy | Warface |
| 03:20.45 | pompy | http://www.polygon.com/2014/4/22/5640944/warface-release-date-xbox-360 |
| 03:21.20 | pompy | Arrowmaster: ^ |
| 03:26.11 | karl_w_w | lots of people do that? |
| 03:27.07 | karl_w_w | especially on single player 6 month old games |
| 03:27.39 | karl_w_w | oh its not single player |
| 03:27.53 | Gethe | is mystic in here? or someone else that knows about cumton dbm timer skins |
| 03:27.53 | karl_w_w | still, it's not like it makes a big difference |
| 03:28.04 | Gethe | custom* |
| 03:28.15 | karl_w_w | that is a metric cumton of dbm timer skins |
| 03:28.26 | Gethe | >.> |
| 03:30.52 | Gethe | trying to use the DBT API for RealUI so i can consolidate the other dbm skinning code |
| 03:42.47 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: :( |
| 03:42.53 | Shirik | You seem to dislike the things I share |
| 03:45.45 | znf | what am I doing wrong here? |
| 03:45.45 | znf | data.fontFlags == "MONOCHROME" ? "OUTLINE, MONOCHROME" : data.fontFlags |
| 03:46.22 | Shirik | well, what are you trying to do? |
| 03:46.34 | Shirik | I assume this is C |
| 03:46.37 | znf | no, lua |
| 03:46.46 | Shirik | ok well Lua doesn't have that operator |
| 03:46.50 | Shirik | so that's what you're doing wrong |
| 03:47.01 | znf | doesn't this say that? http://lua-users.org/wiki/TernaryOperator |
| 03:47.02 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: More like the things you share don't always need to be shared. But it is more about making so that you only bother to put the good stuff up. |
| 03:47.04 | Shirik | replace ? with 'and' and : with 'or' |
| 03:47.44 | znf | I'll never understand these ternary operators |
| 03:47.46 | Thunder_Child | eg. if you had to jump through hoops to put stuff up on youtube, maybe there would be a lot less garbage. |
| 03:48.16 | Semlar | it's just shorthand for an if statement |
| 03:48.36 | Semlar | except in lua's case it's just short-circuiting |
| 03:48.50 | kd3 | the stuff in blue that's not block-quoted isn't actually in lua, it's just a demo |
| 03:49.03 | znf | I know what they are, technically, I just can never get the hang of them, no matter how many times I do them |
| 03:49.07 | kd3 | ...of how it works in other languages |
| 03:49.30 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:50.48 | znf | mkay |
| 03:51.05 | znf | stuff done, time to break Stanzilla's code |
| 03:51.51 | Stanzilla | I break you if you break it |
| 03:52.19 | Semlar | i'm kind of partial to this one i wrote for my map return outside and 200/3 * (7 - z) or 60 * (5 - (z < 4 and z or z == 4 and 11/3 or 25/6)) |
| 03:54.18 | Arrowmaster | this episode of GoT is so different from the books..... |
| 03:54.58 | Semlar | good |
| 03:54.59 | Arrowmaster | wtf at the ending |
| 03:58.20 | Shirik | omg I have hiccups and I had forgotten how evil they are |
| 04:03.35 | Arrowmaster | holy fuck, hbo viewers guide dropped a huge piece of info that wasnt in the episode for a scene that wasnt in the books |
| 04:03.59 | Arrowmaster | the name of the guy at the end |
| 04:04.53 | Arrowmaster | mind is fucking blown |
| 04:23.14 | Dagmar | You didn't really expect HBO would continue to let that fucker just write *all* the spoilers did you? |
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| 04:34.21 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: yeah hbo got everyone good there by getting the ultimate spoiler, ultra important unknown characters name listed in their readers guide |
| 04:38.34 | airtonix | his name is john |
| 04:38.51 | airtonix | johnathan snoden |
| 04:39.09 | airtonix | spoiler alert |
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| 05:34.12 | znf | Is there any possible way to stop OmniCC from working on a specific frame? |
| 05:34.45 | znf | or, to make suf not display timers on certain units |
| 05:35.06 | znf | or, make suf _not_ display some of my auras on a specific target |
| 05:36.21 | Semlar | i know you can exclude frames from omnicc |
| 05:36.25 | znf | I can? |
| 05:36.33 | znf | how? |
| 05:36.41 | nebula169 | old way was to add a table key on the frame, forget what it was |
| 05:37.09 | Semlar | i don't know, i never used omnicc but i definitely saw it was one of the options |
| 05:37.34 | znf | There's this "rules" and "groups" thing |
| 05:37.40 | znf | but I have no idea what's for |
| 05:37.44 | znf | and how to use it |
| 05:38.33 | Semlar | http://code.google.com/p/tullamods/wiki/OmniCC4 |
| 05:39.27 | Semlar | "you could create a group called "Blacklist", disable the Enable Cooldown Text setting for that group, and then assign any cooldown you don't want to display cooldown text for" |
| 05:40.05 | znf | Ah. I found it |
| 05:40.06 | znf | yeah |
| 05:40.07 | znf | :) |
| 05:40.27 | Semlar | i don't use omnicc because i wrote an addon that does pretty much the same thing less efficiently |
| 05:41.33 | Semlar | and with fewer options |
| 05:42.24 | Semlar | can't imagine why anyone would use it |
| 05:42.43 | znf | because it works on everything? *shrug* |
| 05:42.54 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:42.57 | znf | and you've probably never made your public |
| 05:43.12 | Semlar | one of the few i've actually uploaded |
| 05:44.41 | Semlar | but i originally wrote it to show how long before you regen enough energy to use an ability, not just cooldowns |
| 05:45.02 | Semlar | because it was really annoying on a rogue to see abilities blacked out but not know how long before you can use them |
| 05:46.30 | znf | can I control it's font size in pixels? :P |
| 05:46.44 | znf | and on each individual frame? |
| 05:46.49 | Semlar | no |
| 05:47.00 | Semlar | you can set the base font size and it scales based on that and the size of the frame |
| 05:47.20 | Semlar | it was mostly designed to work with the default interface |
| 05:47.45 | Semlar | oh OH i forgot the most important feature |
| 05:48.02 | Semlar | when you hit an ability it plays a sparkly animation on the button |
| 05:48.09 | znf | oh dear god, I hate that so much :D |
| 05:48.22 | Semlar | so good |
| 05:48.23 | znf | I hate random thingies that animate |
| 05:48.29 | Semlar | you can turn it off |
| 05:49.02 | Semlar | it doesn't have anywhere near the configuration options that omnicc has |
| 05:49.52 | Semlar | mostly just font size and color |
| 05:50.18 | znf | well, not that I found out how this rule thingie works, I'm actually going to start configuring |
| 05:51.03 | Semlar | i can't play wifout my cooldown addon |
| 05:51.31 | znf | yeah, I'm not sure why that's not a default UI option yet |
| 05:51.44 | Semlar | i think they might be doing something for that in WoD |
| 05:51.53 | znf | that spiraling thingie is less useful than a chocolate teapot |
| 05:51.54 | Semlar | i remember seeing numbers in screenshots |
| 05:52.56 | Semlar | oh it also shows the duration of buffs and debuffs |
| 05:53.39 | Semlar | which i don't think omnicc does |
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| 05:54.22 | znf | ofc it does O.O |
| 05:54.30 | Semlar | since when |
| 05:54.30 | znf | it works over everything with a cooldown |
| 05:54.53 | znf | ever since I remember it |
| 05:54.54 | znf | *shrug* |
| 05:54.55 | Semlar | omnicc shows how long until your debuffs run out? |
| 05:55.12 | Semlar | i'm almost positive it doesn't |
| 05:55.35 | Semlar | i mean on the action button not the unit frame |
| 05:56.18 | znf | why would it show on my action button? :-/ |
| 05:56.52 | Semlar | oh, one of the first things on that page is that it doesn't show buff durations |
| 05:57.42 | znf | I'm not sure why would someone want to have that over their action button |
| 05:57.47 | znf | but I play a shadow priest so... |
| 05:57.59 | Semlar | because it's almost the same thing as a cooldown |
| 05:58.06 | airtonix | also Dagmar, http://git.0pointer.de/?p=mango-lassi.git;a=summary |
| 05:58.12 | airtonix | i lol'd |
| 05:58.30 | Semlar | you can see how long before your buff runs out and you need to recast it |
| 05:59.33 | znf | I have to manage dots on more than one target |
| 05:59.53 | znf | having to glance down at my action bar then at the other unit frames on my screen is kind of unproductive |
| 06:00.12 | znf | (say I have to keep dots on ~3 bosses, I would just look at the boss frames for my dots) |
| 06:00.30 | Semlar | it's in both places, you don't need to look at your action buttons for it |
| 06:00.58 | Semlar | it's just that it's ALSO on your action button so if you are looking at them for cooldowns or whatever you can see whether your buffs are up |
| 06:01.18 | znf | dunno, sounds confusing |
| 06:01.40 | airtonix | sure sign of a bad player |
| 06:01.47 | airtonix | are you bad znf? |
| 06:01.53 | znf | totally |
| 06:01.56 | airtonix | damn |
| 06:02.01 | airtonix | i didn't want you to be bad |
| 06:02.10 | airtonix | why you have to dissapoint? |
| 06:07.33 | Semlar | everyone has their own playstyle |
| 06:11.31 | znf | I just realized |
| 06:11.36 | Semlar | mine is probably not one anyone should be emulating anyway |
| 06:11.45 | znf | Streamus hasn't been updated in a month :( |
| 06:12.07 | Semlar | what are updates |
| 06:13.01 | znf | maybe it's dead already :( |
| 06:14.05 | Semlar | >_> |
| 06:15.01 | Semlar | is that all it takes to declare something dead? |
| 06:15.35 | znf | oh, look, last commit was 5 hours ago! |
| 06:17.34 | airtonix | oh look it was using perforce |
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| 11:54.56 | Workfoz | ~seen Unkle\ |
| 11:54.58 | purl | i haven't seen 'unkle\', Workfoz |
| 11:54.58 | Workfoz | ~seen Unkle |
| 11:54.58 | purl | unkle <~mconverse@50-0-113-124.dedicated.static.sonic.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 3d 12h 56m 19s ago, saying: 'And on that note... ciao tutti!'. |
| 11:57.48 | jleclanche | It's "guess the context" time |
| 11:57.50 | jleclanche | "STOP making it a stupidass voting system and give full power to the leader. You people can VOTE when you start paying me taxes. " |
| 11:58.03 | jleclanche | yep, this is about diablo 3's votekick system. |
| 11:59.13 | nevcairiel | i'm confused |
| 12:02.02 | jleclanche | diablo 3 has a vote kick system and this guy is making a federal case out of it+ |
| 12:02.03 | jleclanche | literally. |
| 12:04.54 | bluspacecow | wat |
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| 12:59.46 | karl_w_w | turn that everyman into a beveryman! |
| 13:00.14 | karl_w_w | bevery stands for beverage! |
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| 13:31.59 | karl_w_w | http://thoughtcatalog.com/anne-gus/2014/03/if-youre-an-android-user-youre-a-misogynist/ |
| 13:38.03 | karl_w_w | I like one of the comments: *kneels down to pray* Dear God, please stop making idiots and trolls, they are starting to meld and I cannot handle the mental anguish of trying to figure out which is which. |
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| 13:48.45 | Workfoz | karl_w_w is a sadist |
| 13:48.47 | Workfoz | for linking such things |
| 13:49.06 | Workfoz | also, a misogynist, because reasons |
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| 14:59.41 | pompy | http://youtu.be/c7s2lzDtjew :\ |
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| 15:18.42 | karl_w_w | http://i.4cdn.org/b/1398697779068.jpg chuckle |
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| 15:18.57 | bluspacecow | OMNOMNOMNOMNOM |
| 15:24.12 | karl_w_w | isn't it convenient that in all series of star trek they are only ever faced with 1 problem at a time? |
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| 15:34.55 | Torhal | hides a tribble in karl_w_w's pocket. |
| 15:35.10 | pompy | id be scared karl_w_w |
| 15:35.13 | bluspacecow | *eats the Tribble* |
| 15:35.42 | karl_w_w | tribbles sound like an amazing food source |
| 15:35.48 | karl_w_w | I hope they taste good |
| 15:38.12 | Unkle | So, I played WildStar over the weekend. I think I'll get it. It looks worth the play-through. |
| 15:38.21 | Fisker | Lopeppeppy |
| 15:40.42 | Lopeppeppy | glomps Unkle. Because of Reasons. |
| 15:40.46 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Fisker. |
| 15:40.55 | Fisker | heya yourself |
| 15:41.00 | bluspacecow | Peppy |
| 15:41.06 | bluspacecow | I is hungry. |
| 15:41.13 | Unkle | glomps Lopeppeppy right back. You know ... REASONS! |
| 15:41.14 | bluspacecow | And it’s Raining Fiskers and Fiskers here |
| 15:42.37 | Fisker | hot |
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| 15:57.34 | Lopeppeppy | Eat some fish, Blueberry. |
| 16:02.14 | Fisker | I'm hungry too Lopeppeppy |
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| 16:42.54 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, you should eat cakes and honey. |
| 16:43.09 | Fisker | wow Lopeppeppy |
| 16:43.28 | Fisker | how did you know that was my fetish? |
| 16:43.33 | Fisker | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/Milchschnitte_Detail.jpg |
| 16:47.05 | Lopeppeppy | I'm psychic. |
| 16:48.41 | Lopeppeppy | http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ob1mTdz2FKU/Uc3wF8eB69I/AAAAAAAARaQ/zylxH82OSmk/s726/MintChocolateChipKlondike.png - that's ice cream! |
| 16:49.02 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 16:49.06 | Fisker | The above isn't ice cream btw |
| 16:49.22 | Fisker | It's cake and some kind of milk/honey stuffing |
| 16:49.27 | Fisker | It's CAKE OREOS |
| 16:49.43 | Torhal | You're a menace to public health. |
| 16:56.13 | jleclanche | Fisker: we have oreos ice cream sandwiches here you know |
| 16:56.31 | Fisker | i don't know what oreos are anyway |
| 16:56.39 | Fisker | Just that they're popular for some reason |
| 16:56.45 | Fisker | and they're black/brown with white in the middle |
| 16:56.50 | jleclanche | what you just said here, that's a lie |
| 16:56.55 | Fisker | No |
| 16:56.58 | jleclanche | do you know what we do to liars? |
| 16:57.05 | nevcairiel | feed them oreas? |
| 16:57.10 | Fisker | idk jleclanche |
| 16:57.11 | nevcairiel | oreos* |
| 16:57.15 | Fisker | I guess I won't find out |
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| 16:57.32 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: feed them *to* oreas, the greek goddess of sacrifice |
| 16:57.56 | nevcairiel | i've never eaten an oreo before, although i've bought peanut butter oreos for my sister once |
| 16:58.21 | nevcairiel | also, i totally don't understand the obsession with peanut butter some countries seem to have developed |
| 16:58.53 | jleclanche | and bacon, yes |
| 16:59.08 | jleclanche | "some countries" |
| 16:59.18 | Fisker | Oreos literally haven't been sold here like until a few months ago |
| 16:59.20 | jleclanche | we all know who we're talking about here |
| 16:59.29 | Fisker | and I don't eat crackers or whatever you wanna call it |
| 16:59.59 | Fisker | Maybe it was sold closer to the cities but the stores in the area didn't have them up until a few months ago |
| 17:00.35 | nevcairiel | hey, i like bacon |
| 17:00.41 | Amarande | yeah, bacon is awesomeness |
| 17:01.19 | Fisker | I don't eat bacon |
| 17:01.30 | Amarande | how did I put it once? at some point in the future, there will be one final and massive holy war among humanity. it will be to determine this: whether the true name of God is "coffee" or "bacon" :) |
| 17:01.35 | Fisker | Also true story sry jleclanche |
| 17:01.42 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: i like bacon; I wouldn't have sex with bacon unlike a bunch of people |
| 17:02.17 | Fisker | Do you see what you have done Lopeppeppy? |
| 17:02.37 | Fisker | Be ashamed :( |
| 17:02.40 | jleclanche | people who go mental for shit like bacon, peanut butter or oreos haven't tasted the awesomenesses of french/greek cooking |
| 17:02.56 | Lopeppeppy | From ice cream to bacon? I am not ashamed. I would try bacon ice cream. |
| 17:03.03 | Fisker | O_o |
| 17:03.05 | Fisker | bad girl |
| 17:03.10 | jleclanche | here is why you wouldn't, Lopeppeppy |
| 17:03.22 | jleclanche | half of what makes bacon good is the greasy juices |
| 17:03.34 | jleclanche | picture that stuff at -5 degrees C |
| 17:03.40 | Fisker | I hate greasy juices |
| 17:04.05 | Amarande | yeah, some day us bacon lovers are going to get accused of being nasty practitioners of necrophagia, aren't we :) |
| 17:04.08 | Amarande | LOL |
| 17:04.24 | Amarande | come to think of it, that's another one of those words that sounds nasty but is actually normal in meaning, like "dihydrogen monoxide" |
| 17:04.36 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 17:04.39 | Amarande | if you're *not* a necrophage, that's when you have a problem :) |
| 17:04.59 | Lopeppeppy | I also eat live beings. |
| 17:05.01 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Shirik -> http://pastebin.com || 5.4.x ToC: 50400 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || This channel is logged, via purl || UI changes to battle.net chat in 5.4.7: http://bit.ly/1biaLRQ || Happy Birthday Unkle! |
| 17:05.20 | TC-Work | "Another year older, another year dead" |
| 17:05.28 | Shirik | deader? |
| 17:05.31 | Fisker | Power abuse Shirik |
| 17:05.45 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-o Fisker] by Shirik |
| 17:05.50 | TC-Work | I didn't write the song |
| 17:05.53 | Fisker | ouch |
| 17:06.45 | bluspacecow | Oh Hairy Jesus. It’s raining |
| 17:06.46 | Lopeppeppy | He is not deaderer. *bops TC on the noggin* |
| 17:09.08 | Fisker | Hey Lopeppeppy lets tagteam TC-Work |
| 17:09.27 | TC-Work | We all are Lopeppeppy, we all are. |
| 17:09.29 | Lopeppeppy | Um. That may have a different slang meaning in my area than in yours, Fisker. |
| 17:09.40 | TC-Work | Same, but I was fine with it. |
| 17:09.42 | Fisker | oh? |
| 17:10.12 | Fisker | So not ultimate wrestling? |
| 17:10.24 | TC-Work | That's not slang |
| 17:10.43 | Fisker | oh |
| 17:10.44 | Fisker | ooooooh |
| 17:10.57 | Fisker | well we could still do it |
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| 17:27.01 | Unkle | TC-Work: Where are all the good men dead; in the heart, or in the head? |
| 17:27.34 | Unkle | And thanks, Shirik. |
| 17:30.19 | Fisker | O_o Unkle |
| 17:30.56 | TC-Work | Unkle: Depends on whom you ask. |
| 17:32.10 | Fisker | asd Shirik |
| 17:32.13 | Fisker | asd fgsfds |
| 17:36.18 | Unkle | Fisker: It's from one of my favorite movies, "Grosse Pointe Blank" - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119229/ |
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| 17:52.47 | Kalroth | ew, gross |
| 17:53.21 | Fisker | You're gross |
| 17:53.26 | Kalroth | nou |
| 17:56.19 | Lopeppeppy | No you both. |
| 17:56.30 | Lopeppeppy | Phone solicitations make me sooooo Hulk-rage. |
| 17:56.48 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 17:57.26 | Lopeppeppy | "If you will verify your personal information I can tell you what this is concerning." ... if you won't tell me who you are, what your company is, or what this concerns I am not giving you anything at all. Mail it. Oh, don't have a mailing address that isn't 6 years old? You have no legitimate business with me, GTFO my WORK LINE. |
| 17:57.56 | Fisker | :O |
| 17:58.10 | Fisker | It's like silly |
| 17:58.49 | Fisker | "Oh you get to verify my details AND annoy me, AND use the details to further annoy me" |
| 17:58.51 | Fisker | Yes pls |
| 17:59.12 | Fisker | Had a similar thing trying to cancel a service I wasn't using |
| 17:59.22 | Fisker | they forwarded me to the "omg pls stay"-people |
| 17:59.26 | Fisker | who didn't put up a good fight |
| 17:59.37 | Unkle | Those aren't legitimate solicitations, they're ID-theft scams. Almost as bad as the "If you'll verify the printer model number we'll mail you the updated manual." |
| 17:59.40 | Fisker | They kept telling me about these super amazing things coming within a few months |
| 18:00.08 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly, Unkle. No way in hell I give info to cold-calls. |
| 18:00.16 | Fisker | I told them the price for maintaining the service for those few months was higher than cancelling and reaquiring the service in a few months if I were interested |
| 18:00.24 | Fisker | "Oh so you don't want to save money?" |
| 18:00.26 | Fisker | ... |
| 18:00.52 | Fisker | In the end it turned out to be something I wasn't interested in, and it took them a year to get it out not a few months |
| 18:00.54 | Fisker | :P |
| 18:01.09 | znf | now you have to tell us which product and company |
| 18:01.12 | znf | and stuff |
| 18:01.23 | Fisker | Danish cable company |
| 18:02.15 | Fisker | It was basically a service that only made sense (when I cancelled) if you also rented some of their cool boxes |
| 18:02.18 | Fisker | which I didn't |
| 18:02.21 | Fisker | so I cancelled |
| 18:02.48 | Fisker | It was like 2€ to cancel, the service alone costed like 5€ a month to maintain |
| 18:03.19 | Fisker | I'm amazed at how their math got into 5x1 or greater < 2 |
| 18:03.30 | Fisker | seller math I guess |
| 18:05.42 | bluspacecow | I sleepy Peppy |
| 18:06.56 | Fisker | then sleep mr. bluspacecow |
| 18:07.02 | bluspacecow | ok |
| 18:07.03 | Fisker | Don't tagteam anybody |
| 18:07.07 | bluspacecow | *sleeps on Fisker* |
| 18:10.38 | kd3 | whee, yet another flash 0-day actively getting exploited |
| 18:10.43 | kd3 | how many are we up to so far this year? |
| 18:11.18 | Fisker | idk kd3 |
| 18:11.30 | Fisker | Reminds me I should probably upgrade from 11.x to 13.x |
| 18:11.32 | pompy | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152354294226772&set=a.67899501771.69169.54971236771&type=1&theater |
| 18:12.20 | pompy | kd3: threatens osx and linux too! |
| 18:13.12 | Fisker | Do you think this is a game? |
| 18:13.15 | pompy | nice lol, they are showing asm code in the demo |
| 18:13.25 | Fisker | What demo? |
| 18:13.37 | kd3 | on ars |
| 18:13.52 | kd3 | speaking of ars... wtf. we're still using 8-inch floppy disks? http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/04/60-minutes-shocked-to-find-8-inch-floppies-drive-nuclear-deterrent/ |
| 18:14.03 | pompy | the 0day was targeting the syrian govt |
| 18:14.06 | pompy | le sigh |
| 18:14.31 | pompy | Fisker: http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/flash-shellcode-exploit-640x487.png |
| 18:16.08 | Fisker | I'm full |
| 18:16.20 | Fisker | Damn food and its ability to sustain me |
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| 19:13.56 | karl_w_w | im not sure why it's a surprise nuclear missile systems involve old tech like 8 inch floppies |
| 19:14.44 | karl_w_w | both modifying and investing in those systems is a sticky subject for various reasons |
| 19:19.26 | Amarande | karl_w_w: actually, it's reassuring that they're still on the 8 inch floppy stage |
| 19:19.40 | Amarande | can you imagine if nuclear physics had been just three or so decades behind its actual history? |
| 19:19.51 | Amarande | we'd ... be relying on ... Windows XP ... for nuclear systems ... *shiver* |
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| 19:23.06 | jleclanche | there we go |
| 19:23.10 | jleclanche | finally done configuring https =) |
| 19:23.10 | jleclanche | https://leclan.ch/ |
| 19:23.18 | jleclanche | man that is satisfying. |
| 19:24.06 | TC-Work | But not very professional |
| 19:24.35 | Amarande | (Transmission from horror fantasy world where XP is used for national nuclear defence) '"C'MON! WE'RE UNDER ATTACK! ACTIVATE! ACTIVATE! LAUNCH!" *brzt brzt* "I'm sorry boss, but the launch control file's corrupted!" *brzt brzt* "What do you mean it's corrupted!" *brzt brzt* "I think Jack over there corrupted it when he opened that cat picture in his email! Something about CryptoLocker!" *brzt brzt* "C'MON GET IT GOING!" "I can' |
| 19:24.35 | Amarande | t there's no back---" *brzbrzbrzbrz*' (Transmission was interrupted) |
| 19:25.44 | jleclanche | TC-Work: why not? |
| 19:26.02 | Amarande | Yeah, I think 8-inch disks are a lot better for us than that type of scenario, heh |
| 19:26.02 | Neffi | I think it's nice. I dont know why it doesnt look professional |
| 19:26.23 | Neffi | I wish I had a name that worked well with that kind of usage. And as an IRC nick. |
| 19:26.37 | jleclanche | Dagmar: I am going fucking crazy. One of my external hard drives regularly does a 2-3 second "seek" noise. iotop shows nothing. unmounting the drive does nothing. shutting the fucking drive off from the kernel does nothing |
| 19:26.39 | jleclanche | what the fuck |
| 19:26.39 | nevcairiel | its not like his name works well as an IRC nick |
| 19:26.42 | TC-Work | Because of the image |
| 19:26.44 | Neffi | The only sensible way I can abbreviate my name for a nickname is "anthead" D: |
| 19:26.54 | TC-Work | You should either nix it or put one of yourself. |
| 19:26.54 | Dagmar | jleclanche: It's doing self-check bullshit |
| 19:27.04 | jleclanche | Dagmar: whats that? |
| 19:27.11 | Dagmar | jleclanche: smartctl has a long and winding bit of documentation |
| 19:27.18 | Dagmar | jleclanche: It's doing it's own SMART tests |
| 19:27.24 | Dagmar | jleclanche: Drives do that from time to time now |
| 19:27.34 | jleclanche | this is ALL THE TIME |
| 19:27.36 | nevcairiel | the drive shouldnt be doing those tests that often that he would get annoyed by it |
| 19:27.39 | jleclanche | well not all the time but a LOT |
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| 19:27.46 | Amarande | jleclanche, it's not a Samsung Spinpoint, is it? |
| 19:27.47 | jleclanche | and it does it for like an hour every 10 seconds or so |
| 19:27.51 | jleclanche | its a WD mybook |
| 19:27.58 | jleclanche | and my two other WD mybooks don't do it |
| 19:28.00 | Amarande | I remember there was one Samsung model that apparently had an issue where SMART tests could kill the drive, heh |
| 19:28.06 | Dagmar | jleclanche: So check the SMART values reported and adjust the time befoe checks |
| 19:28.11 | Razernok | Is it possible to take multiple addons and merge them into a single addon? |
| 19:28.12 | Amarande | hm, no problems on SMART? |
| 19:28.15 | Dagmar | Amarande: That was Seagate |
| 19:28.25 | Dagmar | I had three of the fuckers suffering from that bug |
| 19:28.27 | Amarande | Dagmar: ah, possibly |
| 19:28.29 | Dagmar | No, definitely. |
| 19:28.33 | Dagmar | I was kinda goddamn furious |
| 19:28.36 | Amarande | Samsung drives are made by Seagate now, so they're basically the same stuff anyway |
| 19:28.47 | Neffi | Razernok: Thats *heavily* dependent on how the addon was coded. Maybe possible with some addons, albeit with modifications, but not with most addons, at least without major modifications |
| 19:28.49 | Amarande | like my old Samsung drive, HD103SJ is the same as ST1000DM005 |
| 19:28.55 | Dagmar | Seagate did their level best to hide the defect for about two whole years |
| 19:29.01 | Amarande | (avoid that model, that was the drive from hell heh) |
| 19:29.10 | Dagmar | I wouldn' thave lost a 1.5Tb drive *had they been forthcoming about it* |
| 19:29.17 | Neffi | Razernok: short asnwer "no" |
| 19:29.26 | Dagmar | ...nor the 500Gb drive... nor the 320Gb drive... |
| 19:29.33 | Amarande | Razernok: possibly, but you'll probably need to do some retooling at the least |
| 19:29.42 | Razernok | :( |
| 19:29.56 | Amarande | it's certainly not like C programs, where you can probably cat together all the .c files and still compile it |
| 19:30.31 | Amarande | I'm not sure what went wrong with my drive. It would always pass SMART and surface checks, but it would randomly corrupt data on a regular basis |
| 19:30.36 | Neffi | The problem is most addons will uses hard-coded paths |
| 19:30.51 | jleclanche | Dagmar: the drive in question is the only one that doesnt reply well to smartctl |
| 19:30.52 | jleclanche | http://dpaste.com/1802128/ |
| 19:31.06 | Torhal | http://hearthmind.com/ |
| 19:31.07 | Razernok | MY current addon takes Razer Naga addon and Recount and moves them on the screen for me. I would prefer them to be built into my addon so users don't have to download 3+ addons |
| 19:31.07 | Amarande | none of my other recently owned drives (160GB WD Blue, 1TB WD Blue, 240GB Intel 530) have done the same, so the issue was definitely a problem with the Samsung/Seagate drive |
| 19:31.12 | Neffi | Some addons may do like I do, where they code their path in a constant in their namespace, like addon.path = 'Interface\\AddOns\\$s\\', so you'd only have to change 1 line |
| 19:31.15 | Amarande | but I'm still no surer than before as to just WHAT was wrong with it :S |
| 19:31.38 | Dagmar | jleclanche: Ohhh.... it's an external USB disk? Go to the manuf's site and get their diagnostic tool and cross your fingers then |
| 19:32.05 | jleclanche | Dagmar: this is a different but similar model: http://dpaste.com/1802129/ |
| 19:32.06 | Amarande | Dagmar: heh, sounds like it's wise of me that I've mainly stuck to WD |
| 19:32.08 | Neffi | Razernok: I would sincerely not recommend that for a few reasons: it's non-trivial to update the embedded addons; they will run into very problematic issues if they mistakenly install the standalone addon too; and it might be illegal |
| 19:32.13 | karl_w_w | http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2014/04/25/driver_who_struck_teen_suing_dead_youth.html |
| 19:32.21 | Neffi | Unless it uses a liberal license, it's copyright infringement to distribute other people's work |
| 19:32.27 | jleclanche | I CANNOT TAKE THIS ANYMORE holy shit, I will kick that drive with my foot |
| 19:32.33 | jleclanche | it has my backups and Im dying to do that |
| 19:32.34 | Amarande | Yeah, if the addon is All Rights Reserved, you can't incorporate it into other addons without permission |
| 19:32.43 | Dagmar | jleclanche: Heh I have one of that exact model |
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| 19:32.50 | Neffi | I suspect Razer's work is All Rights Reserved |
| 19:32.56 | airtonix | looks like someone doesn't understand software legalities |
| 19:33.01 | Amarande | There's a certain level of tolerance for derivative works in the WoW UI community, but out and out plagiarism is quite universally frowned upon :) |
| 19:33.01 | Dagmar | jleclanche: I suppose you could crack open the external enclosure adn connect the disk directly to a sata connector |
| 19:33.06 | jleclanche | Dagmar: i restarted the drive and its doing it even more |
| 19:33.17 | nevcairiel | sounds like its dying |
| 19:33.18 | jleclanche | yeah i could :/ im not a huge fan of that prospect |
| 19:33.25 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: no its been doing that for a very long time |
| 19:33.28 | jleclanche | ive just had it off for a while |
| 19:33.33 | Neffi | airtonix: ? |
| 19:33.34 | Dagmar | jleclanche: Yet you just sasid it's doing it even more now |
| 19:33.47 | jleclanche | Dagmar: i mean its doing it even more now that i plugged it out and back in |
| 19:33.52 | Dagmar | jleclanche: It's not normal for a drive to repeatedly head-seek |
| 19:33.57 | Amarande | mind you, that's also because our community has a fairly unique history in that regard |
| 19:34.07 | Razernok | Here's my addon so far http://prntscr.com/3ec4a9 |
| 19:34.10 | jleclanche | Dagmar: i dont know if its actually seeking, its just making a seeking noise |
| 19:34.24 | jleclanche | you know, kklklkllllllclklcklcklcklcluckclickcklckcl |
| 19:34.26 | Amarande | on the one hand, it's natural for one addon to lead to another, and seeing as you can't make any money off of addons, there's not much reason for an addon author to say "no you can't use (code snippet) in your addon" :) |
| 19:34.31 | Razernok | moves chat, recount, and Razer Naga bars for me and configs them |
| 19:34.48 | jleclanche | Razernok: mediacru.sh |
| 19:34.50 | jleclanche | use it |
| 19:34.53 | Neffi | Just add an OptionalDep, Razernok |
| 19:34.55 | Amarande | on the other hand, there have been major issues in the past with sites that tried to build their entire existence on mass ripping addons from other sites without permission, so for protection all-rights-reserved licencing had to be adopted |
| 19:35.01 | airtonix | i don't see the point Razernok |
| 19:35.07 | Amarande | just so there's a leg to stand on against such cads |
| 19:35.07 | Neffi | even if you get permission, there's technical issues. I wouldn't go so far as to embed them |
| 19:35.17 | Razernok | Neffi, They're not optional though since its all my addon does |
| 19:35.25 | Neffi | So RequiredDep |
| 19:35.34 | jleclanche | Dagmar: the thing is i shut it off directly from sysfs a while back |
| 19:35.37 | jleclanche | and it kept clicking |
| 19:35.44 | Neffi | OptionalDep makes sure it loads first, then you can do some logic to see if it's enabled, and only make your changes if it is |
| 19:35.46 | Dagmar | jleclanche: Seeing as how everyone learned from the 1541 that head-banging is very bad, it's probably seeking across all cylinders |
| 19:35.54 | Amarande | In other words, there's not much reason to deny permission but technically you do need to go get it. :) |
| 19:35.58 | airtonix | looks like you're on a well paved patth of WhoGivesAFuckAboutSoftwareCopyright! |
| 19:36.08 | jleclanche | Dagmar: could it be some form of ext fragmentation? |
| 19:36.19 | Dagmar | jleclanche: Unmounted? No. |
| 19:36.21 | Razernok | For my addon to do anything it needs Recount and Razer Naga addons |
| 19:36.29 | airtonix | gratz? |
| 19:36.31 | jleclanche | Dagmar: yeah you're right.. hm |
| 19:36.42 | Dagmar | jleclanche: Are you worried you might spill egg yolk into the enclosure? |
| 19:36.48 | Razernok | only thing my addon does is configs those 2 addons |
| 19:36.58 | jleclanche | Dagmar: i think you're on to something with those smart tests though especially if it doesnt answer well to smartctl |
| 19:37.03 | Razernok | moves them and sets them up for the player |
| 19:37.04 | Dagmar | jleclanche: These things are almost always a laptop drive stuck in a plastic box |
| 19:37.43 | Dagmar | jleclanche: To use smartctl on an external USB disk requires the USB controller interface built into the enclosure to be willing to play along |
| 19:37.44 | jleclanche | Dagmar: http://dpaste.com/1802135/ =( |
| 19:37.51 | Neffi | Razernok: You previously said copying configs was annoying. You could store custom config at a known location, and ship BAT and SH files to emit those configs for all characters automatically |
| 19:38.11 | jleclanche | oh |
| 19:38.14 | jleclanche | its scsi lol |
| 19:38.28 | jleclanche | Dagmar: http://dpaste.com/1802141/ |
| 19:38.39 | Razernok | copying configs from one character to another doesn't always copy fully or correctly |
| 19:38.55 | Dagmar | jleclanche: So again, WD's site will have some diagnostics tools |
| 19:39.04 | jleclanche | "diagnostic tools"? |
| 19:39.10 | Dagmar | Yes. |
| 19:39.20 | Razernok | I would prefer to just have an addon to do it all for me |
| 19:39.24 | Amarande | also, as I understand it, another reason for the prevailing attitude towards addon copyright is support requests |
| 19:39.32 | Dagmar | If you're very lucky it'll take one look at the drive and say "OH MY GOD! CALL SUPPORT AND GIVE THEM THIS NUMBER!" |
| 19:39.53 | jleclanche | this shit isnt worth the time it takes to format it |
| 19:39.58 | Amarande | see, if you just take code snippet XYZ, most authors are likely to be cool with it because, well, now it's part of *your* addon. if there's a problem, they're going to be asking *you* to debug that code |
| 19:40.32 | Dagmar | From the firmware defect mentioned earlier, if you let SeaTools for Windows even *see* an affected disk, it would quietly give you an express RMA number without doing a single test. Just the serial number was enough to convince the checking tool the drive was going to fail if it wasn't already |
| 19:40.34 | Amarande | if you rip someone's addon in toto, like say Recount, and modify it? people are going to see it's Recount and then Recount's author is going to be being bugged for things that ought to be YOUR issue |
| 19:40.54 | Dagmar | That's part of the reason it was so shit Seagate would not _admit_ they had a problem. |
| 19:41.00 | Razernok | I would just move the blizzard action bar buttons and stuff with my addon without Razer Naga. But that would be a pain I bet for coding and having it set key binds |
| 19:41.19 | Stanzilla | shitgate sucks |
| 19:41.20 | Stanzilla | do not buy |
| 19:41.31 | Dagmar | They could make their diagnostics utility automatically issue RMA numbers for the equipment, but refused to publicly acknowledge it |
| 19:42.05 | Amarande | Dagmar: then there's their dodgy warranty duration policy |
| 19:42.08 | Razernok | I would like to have Recount built into my addon without the background window it uses |
| 19:42.11 | Dagmar | jleclanche: the my books are full-size 3.5 disks inside by the look of it |
| 19:42.25 | jleclanche | Dagmar: i guess i will give a shot at updating the firmware |
| 19:42.28 | jleclanche | http://www.wd.com/wdproducts/wdsmartwareupdate/firmware.asp?id=wdfMyBook_FJK&os=WIN this shit has no changelog |
| 19:42.30 | Amarande | as in, you can literally have a drive be out of warranty before you even bought it :P |
| 19:42.32 | jleclanche | it could just be nsa bugging |
| 19:42.41 | jleclanche | oh nvm |
| 19:42.46 | jleclanche | its just superslow |
| 19:42.53 | Amarande | because Seagate considers the warranty to count down from the date it left their factory, NOT the date you bought it |
| 19:42.55 | pompy | WDDLGDIAG says "Health Status: Warning" for me :x heh. |
| 19:43.02 | Dagmar | jleclanche: Run their diag tool first |
| 19:43.11 | jleclanche | Dagmar: i didnt find any diag tool |
| 19:43.17 | Dagmar | jleclanche: http://support.wd.com/product/download.asp?groupid=132&sid=171&lang=en |
| 19:43.25 | Dagmar | "WD Drive Utilities for Windows" |
| 19:43.42 | Amarande | seriously, how many other companies would ever get away with saying the warranty began when your product was made, not purchased |
| 19:43.53 | Dagmar | Amarande: None |
| 19:44.53 | Dagmar | ...which is another reason why I just refused to deal with them anymore after three drives had to be repllaced in one month |
| 19:45.05 | pompy | Seagate? |
| 19:45.15 | Dagmar | They weren't going to honor the warranty on the 500 and the 320 because of their manufacture date |
| 19:45.50 | Razernok | Here's my code so far: http://paste.org/72085 |
| 19:46.15 | Amarande | Razernok: you'll want to contact the Recount author. almost certainly they'll let you use the underlying code, but they'll want you to make sure people don't think it's their version of Recount |
| 19:46.32 | Amarande | because then *they* will keep getting the support requests for *your* addon |
| 19:47.14 | Dagmar | Which will make them build little voodoo dolls of you that they can shove rusty nails through |
| 19:49.07 | Amarande | like I said, the main reasons for all rights reserved licencing on addons are a) to keep the support requests going the right places instead of bugging people who oughtn't be being bugged, and b) to have a leg to stand on when idiots try to start their Sooper Kewl Addonz site that just steals addons en masse from WoWI and Curse, as has happened on multiple occasions |
| 19:49.25 | Amarande | it's not really meant to try to monopolise anything, generally :) |
| 19:51.09 | Amarande | not much reason to, since also as I've noted, you can't make money off of addons (Carbonite tried that and Blizzard told them to go pound sand :) |
| 19:51.12 | jleclanche | alright rebooting into windows |
| 19:51.15 | jleclanche | Dagmar: this better work |
| 19:51.39 | Dagmar | It should at least give you a clue about what the hell the drive thinks it's doing |
| 19:52.32 | Razernok | I wish I had someone to work on the addon with me. Help with design and coding. |
| 19:53.01 | airtonix | why? |
| 19:53.11 | Razernok | not easy alone |
| 19:53.13 | airtonix | is moving the frames of two other addons hard work? |
| 19:53.32 | jleclanche | Razernok: you were told off the other day. if you want people to help you with this, pay them money |
| 19:53.48 | jleclanche | Razernok: you've been completely unwilling to do anything yourself, so you wont get any other kind of help here |
| 19:54.50 | airtonix | how much design can you put into moving the frames of two other addons anyway? |
| 19:55.06 | Razernok | jleclanche, I've been doing the coding myself. But I have more plans for my addons. |
| 19:55.19 | airtonix | and could you fit all this on one line? |
| 19:55.40 | Razernok | My addon will also move blizzard frames. Hide/Show based on stuff the player is doing in-game |
| 19:55.59 | airtonix | a wholly unique undertaking! |
| 19:56.10 | airtonix | i applaud you |
| 19:56.40 | Dagmar | sarcam overload detected |
| 19:56.53 | Razernok | i.e. I want to place the quest tracker on the left side. but show/hide if in a party/raid |
| 19:57.02 | airtonix | sarCam: the new webcam for sarcastic fucktards! |
| 19:57.18 | airtonix | oh dear |
| 19:57.19 | Stanzilla | wow paste.org does not work with an adblocker anymore |
| 19:58.03 | nevcairiel | still works with my adblocker, but it a lso doesn't block its ads... so huh :) |
| 19:58.13 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 19:58.16 | nevcairiel | or i unblocked it |
| 19:58.16 | airtonix | people still use paste.org? |
| 19:58.18 | Stanzilla | it a iso |
| 19:58.19 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 19:58.21 | nevcairiel | must've been a long time ago |
| 19:59.23 | jleclanche | Stanzilla: dpaste.com is nice |
| 19:59.33 | jleclanche | mediacru.sh is working on a pastebin.. still.... sigh |
| 19:59.35 | Stanzilla | I use paste2 mostly |
| 19:59.45 | jleclanche | i use paste2 because i use paste2 |
| 19:59.52 | jleclanche | literally - fucking chrome autocomplete |
| 19:59.56 | jleclanche | "I didn't mean to.. ergh, okay" |
| 20:00.16 | nevcairiel | i usually use pastebin.com |
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| 20:00.41 | jleclanche | pastebin.com is horrible for various reasons |
| 20:00.46 | jleclanche | paste2.org is horrible for a HOST of reasons |
| 20:00.55 | Neffi | codepad.org |
| 20:00.57 | jleclanche | the guy who hosts it is scummy as hell |
| 20:01.05 | airtonix | lol adverts |
| 20:01.12 | jleclanche | nah worse |
| 20:01.22 | airtonix | suddenly: suggestions! |
| 20:01.24 | nevcairiel | i dont really need a paste service on a regular basis |
| 20:01.34 | Neffi | dpaste -> no Lua D: |
| 20:01.35 | airtonix | i just use gists |
| 20:01.45 | airtonix | the choice of superior beings |
| 20:01.53 | jleclanche | my ocd prevents me from using gist for small stuff |
| 20:02.04 | jleclanche | i use dpaste.com for small stuff, gist.github for stuff I intend to maintain or share more officially, paste2 for large dumps |
| 20:02.06 | airtonix | i just use my sublime text plugin... |
| 20:02.16 | airtonix | it's literally three key presses |
| 20:02.39 | Neffi | airtonix: which one? I installed one and it simply failed to do anything |
| 20:02.53 | airtonix | then you're bad. |
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| 20:03.10 | Neffi | :'( |
| 20:03.12 | airtonix | the built in baddy detector is working as intended |
| 20:04.24 | jleclanche | alright im tired of your shit airtonix - rebooting |
| 20:04.38 | airtonix | fare the well brother |
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| 20:11.36 | pompy | hey Dagmar https://www.facebook.com/foxnashville/photos/a.10150258659942290.343029.73949382289/10152361142387290/?type=1 |
| 20:11.41 | pompy | gl |
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| 20:20.45 | airtonix | roll d20 for luck bro |
| 20:21.18 | jleclanche | hmm |
| 20:21.22 | jleclanche | Dagmar: I might have bricked the disk. |
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| 20:25.33 | jleclanche | Dagmar: nvm, i just needed to reboot once more into windows. well, i dont know if it fixed it |
| 20:27.57 | Dagmar | hehe |
| 20:28.05 | jleclanche | Dagmar: it does appear to be.. quieter |
| 20:28.09 | airtonix | Neffi: https://github.com/bgreenlee/sublime-github |
| 20:28.10 | jleclanche | oh man if it fixed it |
| 20:28.29 | jleclanche | Dagmar: btw the diagnostics tools were useless, they didnt recognize the drive. i suspect they're just a smartctl gui |
| 20:28.30 | airtonix | Neffi: go here: https://github.com/settings/applications#personal-access-tokens |
| 20:28.37 | Neffi | airtonix: just set up https://sublime.wbond.net/packages/Gist |
| 20:28.44 | airtonix | Neffi: generate new token. copy it to the user settings |
| 20:28.58 | Dagmar | jleclanche: Well that's definitely annoying considering it was linked +from+ the page for the My Book line |
| 20:29.04 | airtonix | i used to use Gist. |
| 20:29.10 | Neffi | Yeah. I put off making a Github for a while, because I never needed collaboration. But now I have one, so that's good |
| 20:29.21 | jleclanche | Dagmar: it could just be the drive is defectuous |
| 20:29.32 | airtonix | you don't need collaboration as a reason to use github |
| 20:30.08 | Neffi | I always meant to make one, and just never bothered |
| 20:30.13 | airtonix | if you want private repo, use bitbucket |
| 20:30.29 | jleclanche | if you want private repos, give money to github, they deserve it ten times over |
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| 20:30.42 | airtonix | if you want to make it public (and want a track record of your earnest activities) make it on github or a public bitbucket |
| 20:30.48 | Neffi | I doubt I need a private repo, but when/if I do, thanks for the suggestions |
| 20:31.08 | airtonix | why do you say github deserve the money more than bitbucket jleclanche? |
| 20:31.19 | Neffi | A lot of projects I like use Github, so it makes sense to have an account anyway |
| 20:31.19 | airtonix | github are dirty ruby on rails people |
| 20:32.01 | jleclanche | bitbucket is django which is cute and all but github is simply better |
| 20:32.06 | Neffi | jleclanche is a dirty python person ;) |
| 20:32.30 | Semlar | i accept cash donations in all currencies |
| 20:32.34 | airtonix | i feel angry now |
| 20:32.57 | Neffi | donates 1 nefficoin to Semlar |
| 20:33.08 | Neffi | public exchanges coming Soon (TM) (never) |
| 20:33.17 | TC-Work | Lies Semlar |
| 20:33.37 | Semlar | okay i only accept dogecoin |
| 20:33.43 | airtonix | douchecoin? |
| 20:33.51 | Neffi | that's too bad. I value 1 nefficoin at 4 quadrillion US dollars |
| 20:34.55 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:35.09 | jleclanche | Semlar: https://mediacru.sh yo :( |
| 20:35.23 | Semlar | imgur best gur |
| 20:35.31 | Neffi | ha Semlar |
| 20:35.35 | airtonix | what's a gur? |
| 20:35.54 | Neffi | airtonix: https://files.nyu.edu/msw224/public/invaderzim/images/gir_disguised.jpg |
| 20:36.09 | airtonix | obviosly that be a gir |
| 20:36.19 | Semlar | we managed to aggro like 6 elites while we were fighting the rift guardian |
| 20:36.45 | Neffi | "we" or you? |
| 20:36.52 | Semlar | i may have played a part |
| 20:37.02 | Neffi | a 100% part? |
| 20:37.09 | Semlar | what are you trying to say |
| 20:37.19 | Neffi | nothing! i go now |
| 20:37.36 | jleclanche | Semlar: are you on eu? |
| 20:37.42 | Semlar | nah |
| 20:37.48 | jleclanche | what the fuck are you good for =( |
| 20:37.55 | Semlar | nefficoins |
| 20:39.01 | airtonix | mild handjobs |
| 20:40.58 | TC-Work | heh, I read that as 'midi handjobs' |
| 20:50.52 | jleclanche | ~seen scarpino |
| 20:50.58 | purl | scarpino <~andrea@archlinux/developer/andrea> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 173d 11h 15m 6s ago, saying: 'I'm using kdeconnect 0.4'. |
| 20:55.59 | Unkle | I accept cash in US dollars, gold and silver bullion, and blue chip stocks. |
| 21:14.29 | Stanzilla | I expected more Firefox user QQ today |
| 21:14.35 | Stanzilla | well maybe when the auto update kicks in |
| 21:18.38 | airtonix | koch brothers trying to increase taxes on homes with solar power |
| 21:18.43 | airtonix | fucking scumbags |
| 21:20.07 | Dagmar | You know, we can solve this energy crisis if we just start using clean burning Koch Brothers and Koch Brothers supporters |
| 21:20.27 | Neffi | but if everyone starts stealing sunlight there won't be enough to go around |
| 21:20.54 | Dagmar | No need to worry. We can just extend daylight savings time another two weeks |
| 21:21.01 | Neffi | true |
| 21:21.20 | Neffi | one wonders why we don't just have daylight savings all the time, and put solar panels on everything. like, duh! people, this isn't that hard |
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| 21:50.41 | znf | how do I format an integer? |
| 21:50.47 | znf | %.0f ? |
| 21:50.52 | nevcairiel | %d |
| 21:51.01 | nevcairiel | f is for floating point |
| 21:51.17 | znf | Oh. |
| 21:51.34 | nevcairiel | although in Lua it would probably end up with the same result |
| 21:51.35 | airtonix | not format |
| 21:51.56 | znf | airtonix, ? |
| 21:52.09 | airtonix | the f there doesn't stand for "format" |
| 21:52.40 | airtonix | just thought i'd help you dissassociate that |
| 21:52.52 | znf | I know, I was referring to string.format('%.0f', %s) |
| 21:54.26 | airtonix | how much of your time did i waste? |
| 21:54.31 | znf | none :) |
| 21:54.34 | airtonix | damn |
| 21:54.40 | Amarande | Neffi: apparently, the issue usually cited as to the ills of solar power is that a) not everyone has it, and b) you don't get it all the time, unless you have enough panels and batteries |
| 21:55.13 | airtonix | Neffi: http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/14/04/28/0347225/the-koch-brothers-attack-on-solar-energy |
| 21:55.23 | Amarande | so you end up needing the Grid anyway |
| 21:55.35 | Amarande | except now you've got less people to subsidise the grid even if you're *not* managing to sell surplus back |
| 21:55.42 | znf | now, someone write more effective code than me: http://pastie.org/9121082 |
| 21:55.42 | airtonix | Actually, the real worry is the $20 trillion in stranded assets that the oil companies stand to lose if solar gets cheaper than carbon fuels quickly enough. So it's crucial that they keep their subsidies and prevent anyone else from growing through subsidies. |
| 21:55.44 | znf | 'cose I suck at this |
| 21:55.58 | Amarande | and the fun thing is that then this might even *waste* energy, oddly enough, unless you use nuclear or natural gas |
| 21:56.03 | znf | erm, that's the old thing with %.0f |
| 21:56.13 | Amarande | because apparently coal and oil plants can't start and stop fast enough to handle a stop-and-go power demand system, so you have to run those all the time |
| 21:56.39 | Amarande | takes a few hours to start up a coal or oil plant apparently :| |
| 21:57.07 | Amarande | as for gas ... hah, that kinda sucks to be us humans if that's true, since the claim is gas is only cost effective if it's actually used to capacity :S |
| 22:00.55 | Neffi | Amarande: I was joking if that wasn't obvious |
| 22:01.19 | Neffi | Solar has its uses but obviously will never be practical for every home, or 100% of our power needs |
| 22:02.33 | Neffi | airtonix: this makes me very mad D: |
| 22:02.50 | Neffi | I can't believe anyone with legislative power would find logic in this |
| 22:12.18 | Amarande | Neffi, the Hutt Cartel enjoys their credits :) |
| 22:12.53 | Amarande | as for why it's kinda sad about the gas thing, it's because if that's really true that gas is too expensive unless it has a really high usage %, but we want to get people off the grid and onto wind and solar for green's sake |
| 22:13.13 | Amarande | ... yeah, in order to get green power, we also need fracking for cost effectiveness. LOL, nice little problem there isn't it :P |
| 22:14.11 | Neffi | This is much too broad a conversation to get into now. But even thinking in evil terms, these people are losing an important lesson: long term concistency trumps short term intensity. Their commitment to quick profit will cost a lot in the end, because climate change has far-reaching economic impact |
| 22:18.06 | Amarande | heh, one need only look at Hutta from Star Wars to learn that one, yup :) |
| 22:18.21 | Amarande | let's see ... Hutts ... profit at all cost? Check. Planet that looks like a total trash dump? CHECK. |
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| 22:25.15 | Unkle | So the blizzcon contests are announced - for BlizzCon 2014. Which means it will be in 2014. woo? |
| 22:26.08 | kd3 | they announced blizzcon dates last week |
| 22:26.14 | kd3 | blizzcon.com |
| 22:32.17 | Amarande | hm, do I want to buy the virtual ticket this year :) |
| 22:33.06 | znf | yeah you do |
| 22:33.10 | Amarande | one of these years I should actually go to Blizzcon' |
| 22:33.26 | Amarande | but as I understand it, it's even harder to get a blizzcon ticket than it is to get a host hotel room for DragonCon, heh |
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| 23:01.42 | karl_w_w | i probably wont get a virtual ticket this year given how shitty it was last year |
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| 23:15.56 | Dagmar | Amarande: I'd agree, but only because it's random when they release Blizzcon tickets, but you can make reservations for next year's Dragon*Con as you're checking out of the hotel you were just in |
| 23:16.08 | Dagmar | ...provided you check out early. |
| 23:16.51 | Amarande | Dagmar: think that depends on the hotel, the Marriott and Hyatt don't open theirs till October usually |
| 23:17.06 | Amarande | seem to remember someone mentioning you can do that with the Hilton though |
| 23:17.23 | airtonix | i posit the presence of a bus |
| 23:17.40 | airtonix | ./monocle |
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| 23:53.05 | Primer | sigh...still haven't been able to get hearthstone working in wine |
| 23:54.05 | Primer | I can get battle.net to run with wine 1.7 from the wine ubuntu ppa (I'm on mint 16), and hs runs, but then fails with some themed error |
| 23:54.24 | Primer | http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/forum/topic/11041354232 <-- that |
| 23:59.01 | znf | OmniCC is being weird. on 2 debuffs, the font location is one pixel higher on one of the icons |
| 23:59.54 | Primer | yay, it works |
