| 01:02.38 | znf | So, whoever did an upgrade from Apache 2.2 to Apache 2.4? |
| 01:02.58 | znf | Do I have to add a damn <Directory> with "Require all granted" for all my vhosts?! |
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| 01:15.12 | Dagmar | Well, you have to tell Apache it's allowed to serve those files |
| 01:16.47 | A-KO | sigh. why do so many people want to farm t1 on d3 :( |
| 01:16.53 | A-KO | would rather crank the difficulty |
| 01:18.53 | Dagmar | znf: You could always just turn off authentication |
| 01:19.17 | znf | A-KO, because higher difficulties have absolutely no benefits |
| 01:19.29 | znf | and slower to kill |
| 01:28.27 | Kaylin | I'm barely geared for t1 |
| 01:28.30 | Kaylin | I can't do t2 |
| 01:30.29 | A-KO | Not really sure that matters. the gear doesn't scale. |
| 01:30.33 | A-KO | only the % chance to drop them does |
| 01:30.47 | A-KO | so once you're yellow'd out at some point it's like entirely sidegrades or downgrades |
| 01:30.51 | A-KO | and paragon points |
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| 03:19.59 | Razernok | Can someone tell me why ReloadUI() doesn't work in my addon???? |
| 03:21.09 | Semlar | it requires a hardware event |
| 03:21.55 | Razernok | huh? |
| 03:22.19 | Semlar | it can only be called in response to a mouse click or a key press |
| 03:22.27 | Razernok | crap |
| 04:11.54 | kd3 | wow, 1992 was a long time ago: https://twitter.com/terrapin_sf/status/459910318378844160/photo/1 |
| 04:18.52 | Dagmar | Obligatory fuck you |
| 04:22.47 | Thunder_Child | ^ |
| 04:22.57 | Thunder_Child | Also happens to be the last time I was in vegas. |
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| 06:50.32 | Fisker | Citrix XenServer consumes my soul |
| 06:50.34 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/hKeQZmN.gif |
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| 07:04.31 | Fisker | I'm having a hard time seeing any huge advantages in paravirtualization besides being one giant clusterfuck of a mess |
| 07:11.01 | Esamynn | Fisker: hmm? |
| 07:12.33 | Thunder_Child | Get glasses. |
| 07:15.27 | Fisker | Since it's actually dependant on support of the software environment it's hosting/hosted on all you get is tons of weird quirks |
| 07:15.51 | Fisker | Just hypervisor act like a hypervisor pls |
| 07:16.03 | Fisker | I'm tired |
| 07:16.09 | Fisker | Fuck redundancy |
| 07:18.25 | Esamynn | ahh |
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| 07:30.44 | zenzelezz | "We can't just tweet and tweet and expect thtis social injustice to be righted. It will also take Facebook updates, maybe even blogposts." |
| 07:31.24 | zenzelezz | *spellings |
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| 08:09.50 | Torhal | http://whatthefuckshouldimakefordinner.com/ |
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| 08:17.50 | Kodiack | Torhal, pumpkin baked with creamed shrimp Rio style sounds delicious. Thank you for the suggestion. |
| 08:18.42 | Kodiack | Actually, I guess that's a real thing. wtf |
| 08:18.50 | Kodiack | http://www.cookstr.com/recipes/pumpkin-baked-with-creamed-shrimp-rio-style |
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| 09:18.56 | bluspacecow | lol http://ecmweb.com/violations/code-clusters-fork-it-over-dude |
| 09:28.00 | Jamash | well I don't have all the legendaries but my makeshift miracle rogue is kicking ass |
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| 11:29.44 | zenzelezz | the irony of a bus named "The last trip" catching fire on the first trip... http://g.api.no/obscura/API/image/r1/escenic/978x1200r/1398457766/archive/05427/russebuss_5427160a.jpg |
| 11:30.07 | zenzelezz | the more I read about that case the more amusing it gets |
| 11:30.19 | Neffi | that's by definition the opposite of irony, zenzelezz |
| 11:30.25 | Neffi | they told you what was going to happen |
| 11:31.40 | zenzelezz | true |
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| 15:05.38 | karl_w_w | anyone thoughts or experiences seagate nas vs wd red? |
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| 16:07.52 | zenzelezz | karl_w_w: the HDDs? |
| 16:08.50 | Thunder_Child | That was my assumption |
| 16:10.26 | zenzelezz | I have two Seagate NAS HDDs that's been resting on my desk right next to my monitor for two weeks now... and I'm going to get around to using them real soon now |
| 16:10.29 | zenzelezz | I'm sure... |
| 16:10.41 | Thunder_Child | Do you have a nas? |
| 16:10.43 | nevcairiel | i run a bunch of WD Reds, been working just fine |
| 16:13.37 | zenzelezz | Thunder_Child: not right now |
| 16:15.52 | karl_w_w | so so far we know WD reds are just fine and seagate nas make good paperweights while still operational :P |
| 16:19.03 | zenzelezz | well, Google seems quite full of Seagate NAS/WD Red results |
| 16:19.20 | zenzelezz | even when only search for one of them the comparisons come up in the results |
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| 16:25.32 | karl_w_w | yeah, and it's so far been pretty much a wash |
| 16:29.47 | zenzelezz | are you looking for this for home use, or work? |
| 16:31.10 | karl_w_w | home |
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| 16:52.56 | phelps | karl_w_w, I've used a 3TB red drive in my NAS for about a year or so |
| 16:53.09 | phelps | runs cool and no problems, SMART reports are all perfect |
| 16:53.32 | phelps | its always being hit by my torrent client, so I'd say its been with mod. to heavy IO |
| 16:54.53 | phelps | I don't recommend it for an OS thought |
| 16:55.00 | phelps | s/thought/though/ |
| 16:55.59 | jleclanche | hey Shirik, sell me on Wildstar |
| 16:58.16 | zenzelezz | is it out yet? |
| 16:58.20 | nevcairiel | no |
| 16:58.21 | phelps | karl_w_w, my only experience with Seagate was replacing the drive in my colo server, that was many years ago however, quality could have changed by now |
| 16:59.21 | karl_w_w | i guess I'll go with red simply because they've been out longer and I've heard no horror stories |
| 17:00.25 | Shirik | jleclanche: it's fucking awesome |
| 17:00.42 | Fisker | hey jleclanche |
| 17:00.44 | Fisker | it's a game |
| 17:00.46 | Fisker | want a beta key? |
| 17:00.55 | Fisker | beta weekend probably over though |
| 17:01.04 | Fisker | it's terrible though Shirik |
| 17:01.07 | jleclanche | Fisker: Im not really interested in the beta if the release is imminent |
| 17:01.08 | karl_w_w | yeah i got a beta key and didnt bother to use it |
| 17:01.11 | Fisker | unless they fixed since a year ago |
| 17:01.15 | jleclanche | Shirik: really sell me on it |
| 17:01.27 | phelps | wildstar might work |
| 17:01.29 | Shirik | what sold me is the combat system |
| 17:01.31 | nevcairiel | jleclanche: release is first week of june, if a month is imminent |
| 17:01.42 | jleclanche | hm |
| 17:01.46 | phelps | they went the wow cartoon'ish graphics style |
| 17:01.47 | jleclanche | i could wait |
| 17:01.57 | phelps | I think thats where games like Aion died |
| 17:02.06 | Fisker | Graphics was fine |
| 17:02.08 | Shirik | the entire experience, not the graphics |
| 17:02.11 | phelps | if you're gonna do realistic graphics, they better be fucking amazing |
| 17:02.14 | nevcairiel | aion died because its a asian grinding mmo |
| 17:02.24 | Fisker | Wildstar was worse than Aion |
| 17:02.29 | Fisker | dunno if it still is |
| 17:02.36 | Shirik | the entire game is built around a culture of... well... |
| 17:02.36 | karl_w_w | what's that other asian one I heard such good things about |
| 17:02.37 | phelps | I think graphics are a huge part of it |
| 17:02.45 | jleclanche | the cartoonish graphics style is definitely not why aion died... |
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| 17:02.59 | phelps | wow doesn't look aged because .. well .. that art style doesn't age |
| 17:03.08 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnXjw4whVwI < It's not just the graphics that are cartoonish |
| 17:03.23 | Shirik | the announcer, NPCs, etc. |
| 17:03.23 | Shirik | they're all in that form |
| 17:03.23 | jleclanche | phelps: there is no art style that ages, other than "realistic" |
| 17:03.25 | Shirik | just like the trailer |
| 17:03.40 | jleclanche | because realistic gets better all the time, anyone who strives for the best will look dated whenever they're not the best anymore |
| 17:03.41 | nevcairiel | jleclanche: and too many MMOs tried to do realistic, and failed badly |
| 17:03.50 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 17:03.51 | phelps | jleclanche, and all new MMOs try to be realistic, and its bad |
| 17:03.54 | zenzelezz | I've been seeing ads for Rift 2.4 lately; isn't that game quite a few years old now? I guess they increase the version numbers slowly |
| 17:04.01 | jleclanche | which mmos try to look realistic? |
| 17:04.11 | Fisker | DAoC? |
| 17:04.18 | jleclanche | DAoWhat? |
| 17:04.26 | zenzelezz | he's trolling, like usualy |
| 17:04.30 | zenzelezz | +l or -y |
| 17:04.34 | Fisker | not at all zenzelezz |
| 17:04.38 | Fisker | why are you trolling zenzelezz? |
| 17:04.43 | nevcairiel | daoc is from the stone age though |
| 17:04.46 | Shirik | anyway jleclanche, I love the combat system. This is only one video, and it's in the middle of a series so you might not understand some of it, but crowd control should give you an idea of some of the more unique things they're doing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2G_8c-u2qc |
| 17:04.47 | zenzelezz | DAoC is like 300 years old |
| 17:04.53 | Fisker | Yes |
| 17:05.12 | jleclanche | alright watching |
| 17:05.19 | Fisker | That was the point though wasn't it? |
| 17:05.35 | Shirik | some of this has changed, btw |
| 17:06.05 | Fisker | Elder Scrolls maybe |
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| 17:06.19 | karl_w_w | yeah i would say eso is realistic |
| 17:06.46 | karl_w_w | archeage |
| 17:06.53 | phelps | I just think if a game fails to pull off realistic, it instantly looks old |
| 17:07.09 | nevcairiel | everygame so far has failed realistic |
| 17:07.16 | phelps | pretty much |
| 17:07.17 | Fisker | Battlefield 4 does it pretty well |
| 17:07.28 | Fisker | But that's not happening in MMO's for another couple of years likely |
| 17:07.35 | Shirik | jleclanche: movement is a huge component of the game. There is no standing around and shooting. You have to be constantly on your feet and adapting to the combat, even against AI mobs. |
| 17:07.37 | phelps | GW2 isn't exactly realistic, I think its a nice balance |
| 17:07.41 | nevcairiel | Fisker: except when you try to hit someone and then the game decides that he actually was somewhere else? :d |
| 17:07.54 | Fisker | Nothing to do with the graphics though |
| 17:08.10 | Fisker | Just because they need to put in tons of data to make it more epic |
| 17:08.12 | Shirik | And then there's warplots: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEpFKkrBws0 |
| 17:08.21 | nevcairiel | Shirik: to be honest it just feels like I'm running the AVR-E addon back in the day and have to move out of the ground overlays :p |
| 17:08.43 | phelps | I'm pretty excited for warlords, as a very casual player, it really has appeal |
| 17:08.58 | Fisker | Honestly the first MMO to perfect Farmville like mobileapp mechanics will win |
| 17:09.02 | Shirik | yeah, feel free to say that nevcairiel |
| 17:09.10 | Shirik | but they get complicated. REALLY complicated. |
| 17:09.18 | Shirik | They start you off easy obviously |
| 17:09.26 | Fisker | I'm hungry |
| 17:09.49 | phelps | I wonder what wildstar would look like with cell shading |
| 17:10.25 | phelps | I love cell shading, warsow is a fun fps |
| 17:11.09 | nevcairiel | what got me the most in the early levels was the lack of a consistent story/goal, or the game just failed at telling it to me in a way that I "get" it, I mostly just felt like I was doing random errants and then suddenly something happened |
| 17:11.17 | nevcairiel | but that may just be a UI failure, I hear they worked on that |
| 17:11.35 | phelps | nevcairiel, good point |
| 17:11.53 | phelps | the quests in Rift aren't rewarding like WoW or GW2 |
| 17:12.02 | phelps | the entire Rift UI is terrible |
| 17:12.16 | Shirik | that might have been a UI failure |
| 17:12.23 | Shirik | there are two types of quests: storyline and tasks |
| 17:12.26 | Shirik | the tasks are literally random errands |
| 17:12.30 | phelps | but you feel less connected to the quest log in Rift |
| 17:12.39 | Shirik | the storyline is what you're referring to, and the UI now splits those out |
| 17:12.46 | Shirik | so it'll show you "here's your regional/world story line" |
| 17:13.03 | phelps | its confusing |
| 17:13.10 | phelps | GW2 just .. works |
| 17:13.16 | phelps | you don't even notice the quest |
| 17:13.21 | nevcairiel | quests usually just ended without much explanation, no window with a quick quest text or anything, I couldn't even open a quest text linked to the quests to read up what I was supposed to do, so I just followed the funky arrows and killed the enemys :D |
| 17:13.55 | nevcairiel | I should probably try again on the next beta weekend |
| 17:14.26 | Shirik | they also changed some classes' mechanics heavily |
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| 17:14.43 | Shirik | esper has quite a few spells that weren't mobile before and now are |
| 17:14.52 | nevcairiel | I really liked where WoWs leveling experience went in the last two expansions, and I just didn't get that from Wildstar, so it left me a bit hanging there |
| 17:14.59 | Shirik | I think there's only one non-mobile spell for espers now |
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| 17:20.37 | Shirik | Sharlene Simon hit 17-year-old Brandon Majewski in Toronto in 2012 with her SUV. She’s suing his family — and those of two other teens hit in the accident — over trauma she says she experienced as a result. |
| 17:20.54 | Shirik | obtw, she killed that 17-year-old |
| 17:22.28 | harl | hell of a trauma, must've destroyed her conscience |
| 17:23.15 | Fisker | Yeah that's pretty inconsiderate of Brandon Majewski |
| 17:23.23 | Fisker | Is that a real name btw? |
| 17:23.26 | Fisker | ma jew ski |
| 17:23.27 | Fisker | :o |
| 17:24.50 | harl | perfectly acceptable name |
| 17:25.10 | Fisker | yes |
| 17:40.05 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V71YiksbFjY archeage has the kraken in it. i am now considering playing this game |
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| 17:51.38 | karl_w_w | oh look at that |
| 17:52.26 | karl_w_w | 3tb drives are more cost effective than 2 |
| 17:52.47 | zenzelezz | I wouldn't really care much for an MMO with the Greyjoys |
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| 18:06.41 | kd3 | holy crap at the nat gas explosion on friday: https://i.imgur.com/qLjnRSv.jpg |
| 18:09.07 | haste | was that a house before :o ? |
| 18:09.27 | kd3 | it was a McMansion looking at the houses right next to it |
| 18:11.24 | Iriel | For some reason that made me think of the popcorn scene in real genius |
| 18:11.31 | Alram | now thats an explosion |
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| 18:22.15 | karl_w_w | places like that actually exist? |
| 18:22.36 | karl_w_w | some people just earn too much money |
| 18:23.08 | kd3 | those houses are just 2x4s and drywall with a fancy-looking exterior built in the suburbs |
| 18:23.14 | karl_w_w | http://deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/thedaytheviolencedied5.png |
| 18:23.16 | kd3 | (which is why all the houses are so close together) |
| 18:23.41 | kd3 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMansion |
| 18:28.13 | Gnarfoz | aren't most US houses made of those ingredients anyway? (a recurring topic) |
| 18:29.03 | Shirik | most US houses are made out of debt and subprime mortgages |
| 18:29.08 | zenzelezz | the one thing I don't like about sites like Netflix and HBO is when they have an entire series... except the pilot. So you start seasons 1, episode 1, and you're presented with "Previously on ..." |
| 18:32.07 | nevcairiel | do series still do pilots which then do not turn out to be s1e1? |
| 18:32.39 | karl_w_w | yeah I havent heard of that in a long time |
| 18:33.10 | karl_w_w | in fact the only series i can think of that did it was star trek |
| 18:33.33 | karl_w_w | which was pretty much not recent :P |
| 18:34.41 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: not new ones |
| 18:35.57 | Gnarfoz | <nevcairiel> quests usually just ended without much explanation, no window with a quick quest text or anything, I couldn't even open a quest text linked to the quests to read up what I was supposed to do, so I just followed the funky arrows and killed the enemys :D <-- you must have missed the "Codex" then |
| 18:36.09 | Gnarfoz | it's the combined questlog/achievements/challenges/thatotherthing window |
| 18:36.18 | Gnarfoz | in which you can, of course, read quest texts |
| 18:36.53 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: well it didnt link there from the quest log! |
| 18:36.55 | Gnarfoz | but there's also an addon that turns the quest accept/turn-in/complete experience into a WoW-style windowed one (not the pop-up dialog thing they have) |
| 18:37.03 | Gnarfoz | you mean the tracker? yeah, it doesn't |
| 18:37.09 | Dagmar | They could of course solve this problem by telling people to go to the lake and start killing murlocs until every last one of them is dead. |
| 18:37.14 | Gnarfoz | (because that triggers the arrow) |
| 18:37.24 | Gnarfoz | which problem? |
| 18:37.44 | Gnarfoz | also I should play some... wasted the rest of the weekend on email :D |
| 18:37.58 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: wasnt there a separate list of quests as well, in a popup window? i remember there being something, but not showing a quest text there |
| 18:38.10 | nevcairiel | but that was before the new UI |
| 18:38.14 | nevcairiel | so who knows |
| 18:38.55 | Gnarfoz | not that I recall |
| 18:38.57 | Gnarfoz | maybe it was broken |
| 18:39.13 | Gnarfoz | the old UI took quite some /reloadui's to make it work some times |
| 18:39.27 | Gnarfoz | the new UI is quite improved in many places |
| 18:39.54 | Gnarfoz | (although at the moment there's a bug keeping the... communication thing in the lower right corner open all the time, even though there's a minimise button) |
| 18:40.08 | Dagmar | I'm going to be driving over there for lunch for awhile |
| 18:40.10 | Dagmar | @#$@$ |
| 18:40.15 | Gnarfoz | enjoy |
| 18:40.28 | nevcairiel | is next week beta again? maybe i'll give it a whirl |
| 18:40.33 | Gnarfoz | this one is |
| 18:40.33 | nevcairiel | had to work on my server this weekend |
| 18:40.39 | Gnarfoz | I mean, it's still up |
| 18:40.40 | nevcairiel | now i'm playing dota2 :p |
| 18:40.42 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
| 18:40.49 | Gnarfoz | yeah, next weekend is the last regular one, I think |
| 18:41.04 | Gnarfoz | after that, open beta should star, IIR the timetable C |
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| 19:05.02 | zenzelezz | so, last season's Hell's Kitchen winner's "job offer was withdrawn after she failed a drug test". That must kind of suck |
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| 19:05.27 | Dagmar | Only wait staff are supposed to be high |
| 19:05.51 | zenzelezz | haha |
| 19:06.00 | Kalroth | http://i.imgur.com/m2K72ud.png sundays |
| 19:07.03 | zenzelezz | Kalroth: they do feel that way |
| 19:07.11 | zenzelezz | though my cat will sleep like that any day of the week |
| 19:09.57 | Dagmar | Sleeps with his eyes open like that? That's a little creepy |
| 19:11.33 | zenzelezz | I guess it's only "rests" |
| 19:11.45 | zenzelezz | it would indeed be worrisome if she was sleeping with her eyes open |
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| 19:40.00 | zenzelezz | so, utorrent is convinced I'm not connectible, and I guess it has to be right in some way, but all port forwarding rules are set up, and rudimentary online checks claim the port at least is open |
| 19:40.39 | Dagmar | I'd just tell it to only use port 3724 since that's what the Battle.net one seems to use |
| 19:40.41 | zenzelezz | bah, now it changed its mind. Might have been the internal test that didn't work |
| 19:40.51 | Dagmar | Then you've only got the one port to worry about |
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| 20:41.57 | A-KO | Anyone for T3 rifts? |
| 21:08.11 | jleclanche | A-KO: EU or US? |
| 21:20.03 | Shirik | I loled: http://teeturtle.com/products/007?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=007 |
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| 21:34.40 | Mr_Rabies | to be fair, it was also the last trip |
| 21:34.45 | Mr_Rabies | welp |
| 21:34.48 | Mr_Rabies | i was way scrolled up |
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| 22:03.25 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:14.13 | Mr_Rabies | mine says "mists of pandaria" still |
| 22:14.28 | Mr_Rabies | perhaps you preordered |
| 22:17.11 | Dagmar | I did preorder |
| 22:17.40 | Dagmar | The launcher is all WoD now but more importantly, the dropdown by the big blue play button says 'Warlords of Draenor' on it |
| 22:17.42 | Dagmar | Evil |
| 22:39.28 | Mr_Rabies | hey, you preordered something months in advance :p |
| 22:40.55 | zenzelezz | well, preordering days in advance is sort of pointless |
| 22:55.22 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: Dude I'm still doing the yearly promise thing. I mean, it's not like I'm _not_ going to buy WoD or that it's going to go on sale to a degree I care about. Me clicking the button for it is a formality at best. |
| 22:56.13 | Mr_Rabies | my reasoning is, they're not gonna run outta copies, i'll buy it when i'm absolutely sure i'm gonna buy it |
| 22:56.26 | Dagmar | lol. I'm already that sure |
| 22:56.35 | Mr_Rabies | it's STILL possibly just under 8 months until the expansion |
| 22:58.03 | Dagmar | Yeah. 8 months is a long time. |
| 22:58.23 | Dagmar | There could be a zombie armageddon in six months, and then you'd be out fifty bucks. |
| 22:59.26 | Iriel | will be taking the risk |
| 22:59.41 | Dagmar | You can LARP in Hardcore mode for free then, tho |
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| 23:21.47 | Neffi | Dagmar: i suspect going up against zombies with foam swoards isn't gonna work out too well |
| 23:24.10 | Neffi | http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/04/active-0day-attack-hijacking-ie-users-threatens-a-quarter-of-browser-market/ |
| 23:27.17 | Neffi | Vaguely related, is there any reason an end user wouldn't want to install EMET? In other words, is there a good reason it's not a core part of Windows? |
| 23:27.45 | Shirik | damn it Neffi |
| 23:27.48 | Shirik | I was just going to link that |
| 23:28.03 | Neffi | old Shirik, by like 2 whole minutes |
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