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| 01:32.14 | alestane | Neffi: I'm late to the party but that's Trine or Trine 2. |
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| 01:53.04 | TC-Work | alestane: you quit just before it was mentioned |
| 02:00.23 | Stanzilla | http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/12673657252?page=1#0 |
| 02:00.25 | Stanzilla | I was bored and mad |
| 02:04.26 | Jamash | Stanzilla: there are inherent problems with timers on stackables |
| 02:04.38 | Stanzilla | like? |
| 02:05.01 | Jamash | like different items in the stack having different timers |
| 02:05.10 | Jamash | thus preventing you from stacking them |
| 02:05.21 | Stanzilla | sounds amazing |
| 02:05.30 | Stanzilla | I should add a "random bugs" paragraph |
| 02:05.36 | Jamash | that's not a bug |
| 02:05.41 | Jamash | It's a criticism of your proposal |
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| 02:05.59 | Stanzilla | which one |
| 02:06.16 | Jamash | trading Gems, Legendary Craft Mats and items from Caches, Kadala |
| 02:06.51 | Stanzilla | ah, right |
| 02:06.52 | Stanzilla | well |
| 02:06.59 | Jamash | time / group restrictions on stackables would require database work to hang that data off |
| 02:07.16 | Stanzilla | It would be better without the restriction anyway |
| 02:07.30 | Jamash | "Battlefield with 40 players is more fluent then Diablo with 4" I think you meant "fluid" |
| 02:07.32 | amm4108 | I'm making an add-on for a research project that is going to give your character diabetes. After getting some of the basic things I needed implemented, I realized that it would be better to contain my array of food values in a secondary file that i read from, I tried using dofile but it doesn't seem to be working, any suggestions for how i could fix it? |
| 02:07.53 | Stanzilla | yes lol |
| 02:08.01 | Jamash | amm4108: you can't use lua file functions, you need to put the array in a file and include it in your .toc |
| 02:08.38 | amm4108 | i tried that too, but it didn't seem to be working, i'll retry doing that though. |
| 02:08.43 | Jamash | Say for example your addon is called Diabeetus, then in Diabeetus.toc you can have a line that says "database.lua" |
| 02:08.53 | Shirik | ... |
| 02:09.06 | Jamash | and in database.lua you can assign your database table to your main addon table |
| 02:09.28 | Shirik | I suddenly want a database engine called Databeetus |
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| 02:10.43 | Jamash | so like Diabeetus.database = { key1 = "data1", key2 = "data2", key3 = "data3" } |
| 02:11.19 | Jamash | Shirik: When you wrote "..." I thought for a second you were going to call me out for being insensitive |
| 02:12.53 | amm4108 | ok, i got it figured out, thanks so much, the problem i was having was i was using the wrong variable and therfor looking for the wrong key in my array |
| 02:14.14 | airtonix | Shirik: umad? |
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| 02:16.45 | airtonix | am I the only one who things google-web-designer is hilarious |
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| 02:18.17 | airtonix | "Here is some software for people that hate web design, yet call themselves web designers. By the way, it's only for google adverts. kthxbai." |
| 02:18.55 | airtonix | apart from the advert part, i thought wordpress captured this market already. |
| 02:23.45 | alestane | The perils of a laptop, TC-Work. Walk away for a couple minutes and it kills the wifi. |
| 02:24.17 | Jamash | Shirik: Google already has Salt (NaCl) and Pepper, Databeetus could have components named Fructose and Glucose |
| 02:24.47 | Jamash | Installin |
| 02:32.18 | TC-Work | alestane: Only if you have it enabled to powersave like that |
| 02:35.18 | airtonix | don't you mean macbookpro? |
| 02:35.57 | airtonix | what does the pro part even mean? |
| 02:36.24 | airtonix | are they trying to sherk the "black epoxy box" nature of apple products? |
| 02:36.46 | airtonix | "oh shit it's got a smudge... guess i better buy a new one" |
| 02:38.30 | TC-Work | Stanzilla: "This has to be solved differently our Crusaders on high paragon will just not spend the points in that category." I think you answered yourself. |
| 02:38.58 | Stanzilla | TC-Work: which is stupid |
| 02:39.27 | TC-Work | 'Not everything is good for everything' is a viable option. |
| 02:40.03 | Stanzilla | well if it was in a category where you can spend unlimited points into an option and therefore can ignore one; I would agree |
| 02:40.06 | TC-Work | Also, I thought you already can surpress messages from clan/community |
| 02:40.11 | TC-Work | I think I do |
| 02:40.14 | Stanzilla | but this isn't and you will only have stale poitns |
| 02:40.35 | Stanzilla | you can only do "clan members come online" |
| 02:43.39 | TC-Work | stale? you have 4 total options. One is not that good. this is not an issue |
| 02:43.53 | TC-Work | not a serious issue at least |
| 02:46.24 | airtonix | everything is a serious issue |
| 02:46.33 | airtonix | how can you be so insensitive! |
| 02:46.41 | TC-Work | It's easy |
| 02:46.45 | TC-Work | I am an asshole |
| 02:46.47 | airtonix | you monster! |
| 02:46.57 | TC-Work | Rawr motherfucker. |
| 02:47.41 | Stanzilla | TC-Work: the issue is that you end up with points not spent |
| 03:01.14 | TC-Work | Is there a cap per field? |
| 03:04.15 | airtonix | so TC-Work, do you wear a cape when you're out assholing? |
| 03:04.39 | airtonix | you know... to protect those you love from all the back lash |
| 03:05.16 | TC-Work | 'out assholing' has a rather different connotation than what I was going for. |
| 03:05.29 | airtonix | your mind. not mine. |
| 03:05.40 | TC-Work | Only place I can live. |
| 03:05.57 | airtonix | in a state of constant debauchery? |
| 03:06.40 | TC-Work | It's difficult to use terms like that when there are no other options. It simply 'is'. |
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| 03:18.40 | Stanzilla | TC-Work: yes, 50 |
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| 03:24.10 | TC-Work | Stanzilla: Well that would explain my confusion. |
| 03:24.24 | Stanzilla | any my reasoning |
| 03:24.27 | Stanzilla | *and |
| 03:24.39 | TC-Work | Did you math it out? |
| 03:25.17 | TC-Work | eg. can you get off 2 lesser heals for the same price as a greater heal with == or more healing? |
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| 06:05.28 | kd3 | haha, wow. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/13936505/ they actually mentioned blowing up the AH |
| 06:08.01 | Thunder_Child | They should be careful, the NSA is listening. |
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| 06:32.11 | pompy | kd3: where on there? I don't see it anywhere. |
| 06:32.33 | kd3 | baron geddon - hover over "problem" |
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| 08:33.01 | Maldivia | kd3: I like that they mention "vendorstrike" :P |
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| 10:51.50 | zenzelezz | http://1.vgc.no/drpublish/images/article/2014/04/25/22935503/1/988x657/2158619.jpg - (apparently) three years of work + $300k up in flames on "maiden voyage" |
| 10:52.51 | zenzelezz | the whole "russe"-tradition in Norway is just weird |
| 10:53.14 | Humbedooh | university thingy? |
| 10:54.37 | zenzelezz | kind of an end-of-highschool thing |
| 10:54.50 | Humbedooh | we have that when you start university in dkdkdk |
| 10:54.52 | zenzelezz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russefeiring#Vans_.28Russebiler.29_and_buses_.28Russebusser.29 being the relevant bit about that bus |
| 10:54.55 | Humbedooh | bunch of shite :) |
| 10:55.03 | zenzelezz | pretty much, yeah |
| 10:56.03 | Humbedooh | sort of like... |
| 10:56.18 | Humbedooh | - Hey, let's celebrate by doing something we're really good at! |
| 10:56.26 | Humbedooh | - But we're teenagers, we ain't good at shit??! |
| 10:56.32 | Humbedooh | - Well....we can get wasted! |
| 10:56.35 | Humbedooh | - YEAH! |
| 10:56.39 | zenzelezz | yup |
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| 13:32.39 | Wobin | how odd |
| 13:32.47 | Wobin | we just have "Schoolies Week" |
| 13:32.56 | Wobin | where everyone goes up to the Gold Coast |
| 13:33.02 | Wobin | and drinks til they fall over |
| 13:33.09 | Wobin | for about a week |
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| 15:19.54 | VIad | so what about them VAC bans - zero tolerance - even the police erase petty crimes after enough years pass :P |
| 15:20.35 | VIad | can't play dark souls 2 online because of my old vac ban :p |
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| 15:23.12 | zenzelezz | why were you banned? |
| 15:23.41 | VIad | I was changing my game files for modern warfare 2 to try enable console - ended up lauching the multiplayer by accident and getting flagged :P |
| 15:24.31 | VIad | not sure why vac bans are permanent now - before they were 5 year bans, surely enough time :P |
| 15:26.16 | zenzelezz | did you try asking them about it? |
| 15:26.31 | VIad | can't remember now, but I doubt they will remove it |
| 15:26.42 | VIad | they can't check details for something that happens over four years ago:P |
| 15:27.00 | VIad | I doubt their system keeps too much details on the internal processes and thinkings of vac |
| 15:27.15 | VIad | btw funny http://www.vacbanned.com/images/falsepositive2.png :3 |
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| 15:29.10 | VIad | what I find funny is their resilience :P |
| 15:29.23 | VIad | took the guy several tries to make them even bother to look into it |
| 15:29.52 | VIad | so I doubt, seriously doubt, valve will lift my vac ban :p |
| 15:30.31 | VIad | only thing that bothered me was dark souls 2 issue with vac (probably bug) |
| 15:30.46 | VIad | and that you can't help translate steam if your account has a vac ban :P lol |
| 15:31.01 | VIad | last one makes no sense, can just make a new account for free anyway :P |
| 15:31.31 | VIad | think you need to use some money, so I can buy the next game I buy on a new account then share it with my main account so I can still play it using one account :D |
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| 16:20.17 | VIad | zenzelezz: lol this doesn't make sense! |
| 16:20.29 | VIad | I can play mw2 multiplayer even when vac banned |
| 16:20.37 | VIad | they changed something I guess :P |
| 16:20.51 | zenzelezz | does anyone still play that? |
| 16:20.57 | VIad | yeah was like 5k people on |
| 16:21.52 | VIad | so I am vac banned yet I can play the game |
| 16:22.01 | VIad | perhaps it's time to make a ticket to have the flag taken off my profile? : |
| 16:22.02 | VIad | :P |
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| 17:00.38 | Arrowmaster | discover sent me a $5 starbucks card.... i dont think im ever getting the $75 amazon card i was told i would get |
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| 17:08.39 | karl_w_w | what's discover |
| 17:10.05 | Thunder_Child | credit card comapy |
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| 17:17.45 | Thunder_Child | company* |
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| 17:32.31 | pompy | http://mashable.com/2014/04/25/elon-musk-spacex-booster-stage-atlantic/ |
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| 19:03.51 | kullervo | except then it broke anyway |
| 19:04.05 | VIad | SMITE looks interesting |
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| 19:10.26 | airtonix | kullervo: no one cares about your negative attitude. this is a "can do" company. you either "can" or you're unemployed. |
| 19:16.56 | zenzelezz | "When I realized I wasn't reading The Onion, I cried into my morning coffee. boycottsystemd.org " |
| 19:17.25 | Dagmar | zenzelezz: Yeah they're gaining some steam now. Hehe |
| 19:21.59 | zenzelezz | I really haven't paid much attention to any of it. Is systemd the init.d thing, or something else again? |
| 19:22.26 | kd3|hate`net | it started out as the init.d thing... lennart keeps putting fingers in more pies with it, though |
| 19:26.13 | Dagmar | It is the antithesis of Unix philosophy and it's growing like a cancer |
| 19:26.40 | Dagmar | I now see that that quote was from Patrick Volkerding. lol |
| 19:27.28 | Dagmar | There's this really epic post from Poettering on Google+ about a "problem" they "fixed" where on Ubuntu machines if they'd upgraded their init package it would result in a forced fsck check on the next boot because the root filesystem would fail to unmount |
| 19:27.32 | airtonix | we should rise up against this tyranny |
| 19:27.48 | Dagmar | They jump through a milllion hoops and their "solution" is to temporarily remount / from the initrd |
| 19:28.06 | airtonix | what was wrong with upstart? |
| 19:28.08 | airtonix | ffs |
| 19:28.17 | Dagmar | ...to replace what should be a little 500k binary. |
| 19:28.21 | airtonix | FOR FUCKS SAKE! |
| 19:29.00 | Dagmar | If they weren't trying to tie everything under the fucking sun into init, this would not even be a problem in the first place |
| 19:29.15 | Dagmar | ...and I still want to know who it was that got them thinking PID 1 is special in some way |
| 19:29.34 | airtonix | we need an evented filesystem... i'll called it NodeJsFs |
| 19:29.48 | Dagmar | almost falls out of his chair |
| 19:30.07 | airtonix | it's a non blocking filesystem |
| 19:30.26 | airtonix | you know you want it |
| 19:31.58 | Dagmar | No I don't. Filesystems should block. |
| 19:32.08 | airtonix | come on baby |
| 19:32.12 | airtonix | don't be like that |
| 19:32.28 | Dagmar | I was explaining to someone in here a few days ago what happens when a certain type of PHP script runs amok |
| 19:33.02 | Dagmar | If the fs were able to block those writes, it would not roflmurder the system by exploding the kernel memory like a fat kid trying to drink from the softserve machine |
| 19:33.23 | jleclanche | woah what the fuck |
| 19:33.23 | jleclanche | airtonix: a lot was wrong with upstart |
| 19:33.38 | jleclanche | Dagmar: unix philosophy is just that, a philosophy. its useful to a point |
| 19:33.48 | Dagmar | Upstart got _some_ things right, but they should have stopped once they had dependency-checking working |
| 19:33.59 | jleclanche | they never had dependency-checking working properly |
| 19:34.03 | Dagmar | jleclanche: No, it's a thing you don't fuck with without good reason. |
| 19:34.23 | jleclanche | Dagmar: there are excellent reasons to fuck with it concerning low level userspace |
| 19:34.30 | Dagmar | jleclanche: Wait... you're telling me a Poettering project had problems and they still kept increasing it's scope? |
| 19:34.34 | Dagmar | I don't believe you. |
| 19:34.40 | jleclanche | what? |
| 19:34.57 | Dagmar | jleclanche: THat's low-level userspace, not all the rest of userspace where it matters |
| 19:35.17 | jleclanche | Dagmar: systemd has plenty in both low and high level userspace |
| 19:35.28 | jleclanche | but systemd is two things: a project and an init daemon |
| 19:35.39 | Dagmar | You build tiny, reliable tools, that do specific tasks and do them well, and then you can stick them together to perform more complex tasks that can still be debugged and/or upgraded without breaking teh everything else |
| 19:35.45 | jleclanche | thats what they did |
| 19:35.51 | jleclanche | the problem is they did it under the systemd umbrella |
| 19:36.05 | jleclanche | but systemd-logind, systemd-journald etc they're all separate utilities |
| 19:36.13 | jleclanche | they integrate with systemd but thats all there is |
| 19:36.34 | Dagmar | ...and yet they can't replace init without having to practically reboot the whole system. |
| 19:36.45 | jleclanche | so? nobody can |
| 19:36.53 | Dagmar | Um... actually yes we can |
| 19:37.08 | jleclanche | there was an excellent set of arguments regarding the whole rebooting thing |
| 19:37.47 | jleclanche | you have to accept that pid1 is special and that whatever bullshit some fudders were trying to pull regarding "but they're putting so much in pid1! omg what if it crashes! omg what if I have to reboot!" is just that |
| 19:37.56 | Dagmar | The "normal" init being very, very small and doing a tiny set of things makes it pretty easy, as well as _seldom necessary_ |
| 19:38.08 | jleclanche | the solution to "don't put everything in pid1" seems to be "put everything in pid2" to those people |
| 19:38.15 | Dagmar | PID 1 is not special. |
| 19:38.20 | Dagmar | Ask the BSD kids. |
| 19:38.45 | Dagmar | The only thing remotely "special" about it is that the kernel is not very imaginative when it comes to assigning PID numbers. |
| 19:39.02 | Dagmar | Init isn't required to remain pid 1. |
| 19:39.07 | jleclanche | the bsd kids are reimplementing everything systemd is doing |
| 19:39.15 | jleclanche | this is a really bad argument |
| 19:39.40 | Dagmar | They have it as an option, and they also have a flag that can be used to disable everything ever done by Poettering from their builds |
| 19:40.02 | Dagmar | The odds are pretty high that if they care, they'll unfuck this mess long before Poettering does |
| 19:40.41 | jleclanche | there is nothing "fucked" about this |
| 19:40.53 | jleclanche | there is exactly one thing wrong with systemd: the attitude of most of its devs |
| 19:40.58 | Dagmar | Binary syslogging is the devil's work |
| 19:41.07 | jleclanche | so log to syslog |
| 19:41.13 | jleclanche | you can do that with systemd-journald |
| 19:41.34 | Dagmar | I can also do it with logger.... or just #include syslog.h |
| 19:41.42 | kd3 | it's easy in fedora, just install rsyslog again and you get /var/log/messages back |
| 19:41.48 | kd3 | also, pong |
| 19:41.51 | jleclanche | i wont go over the billions of reasons why syslog really fucking sucks |
| 19:42.06 | jleclanche | but whatever functionality you had in it, its in journald too, except improved |
| 19:42.23 | jleclanche | here is something i have been really exposed to the past year and half or so |
| 19:42.38 | jleclanche | what the systemd guys are doing is absolutely fucking amazing. they are taking linux way to the next level |
| 19:42.49 | Dagmar | lol |
| 19:42.54 | jleclanche | the whining, the complaining, everything even about their attitude, it doesn't fucking matter |
| 19:43.22 | jleclanche | they are building a seriously high quality out of the box experience for old and recent machines alike |
| 19:43.40 | jleclanche | they're still faithful to both enterprise and sysadmins |
| 19:43.46 | Dagmar | init doesn't even need to be part of that box |
| 19:43.50 | Dagmar | It's not a thing you're supposed to "experience" |
| 19:44.02 | jleclanche | its the fucking groundwork for the entire experience |
| 19:44.59 | Dagmar | Init's sole job, until people lost their minds, was to manage what runlevel state the machine was in, and get it from one to the other |
| 19:45.02 | jleclanche | startup speed, suspend/resume handling, improved wifi reconnection speeds (thanks, systemd-networkd, which is a separate tool, by the way), etc |
| 19:45.16 | Dagmar | Now it's being dorked with by people who probably don't even know what runlevel 2 was generally used for. |
| 19:45.18 | jleclanche | these things they are critical to the experience. they are really high on the list of complaints people have about linux |
| 19:45.39 | Dagmar | Better than 80% of the users couldn't even tell you what init is doing |
| 19:45.48 | jleclanche | what? |
| 19:46.39 | jleclanche | also when i say "they", I dont just mean at the init level |
| 19:47.04 | jleclanche | the systemd team is very much full of contributors both at the kernel level and at the desktop userspace level |
| 19:47.39 | Dagmar | We'll see how you feel about that when a headless server starts requiring Weyland libraries |
| 19:47.49 | jleclanche | and why would that be? |
| 19:48.09 | Dagmar | Because it seems like it's going to take a nuke to stop Poettering from scope creep |
| 19:48.19 | jleclanche | you realize what argument this is, right? |
| 19:48.26 | jleclanche | let's shift the topic on gay marriage for a second |
| 19:48.38 | jleclanche | "We'll see how you feel about that when the gays marry your dog!" |
| 19:48.40 | Dagmar | Yes. One based on the fact that Poettering has a long and sordid history of fucking things up _precisely_ like this |
| 19:48.41 | jleclanche | and done. |
| 19:48.49 | kullervo | I can't believe the Curse Client's addon database is made in the smartest way possible |
| 19:49.14 | Dagmar | Pulseaudio is a great example. It's a huge fucking mess that caused a whole new set of problems greater than the ones it fixed, all the while declaring no one should use ALSA anymore |
| 19:49.15 | kullervo | surely addons could be searched without retrieving the ENTIRE db |
| 19:49.48 | jleclanche | Dagmar: bullshit. poettering doesn't have a "long and sordid history of ..." - he has a short and irrelevant history of mistakes that he actually learned from |
| 19:50.04 | jleclanche | had you been *actually* following anything that isn't fud regarding systemd, you would have noticed |
| 19:50.15 | jleclanche | and poettering is not the entire systemd team. |
| 19:50.17 | Dagmar | If he'd learned from them he would have not had to "solve" the problem of replacing init |
| 19:50.30 | jleclanche | I am really fucking glad he did |
| 19:50.54 | kd3 | static shell scripts worked great for the 80s and 90s. we're a bit past that |
| 19:50.56 | jleclanche | I am really fucking glad I wont have to deal with upstart because that was the shittily marketed better of ten different evils that would "replace" sysvinit |
| 19:51.05 | jleclanche | with a CLA and hosted on bzr |
| 19:51.05 | Arrowmaster | you have 3 options, use sysvinit, use systemd, or start your own init replacement |
| 19:51.09 | jleclanche | because canonical |
| 19:51.28 | Dagmar | Meanwhile, sysvinit still works fine |
| 19:51.35 | jleclanche | how about this Dagmar |
| 19:51.36 | Arrowmaster | the majority seems to believe that systemd is now better than sysvinit, luckly if you dont agree you can still use sysvinit on some distros |
| 19:51.42 | jleclanche | dont update your system |
| 19:51.52 | jleclanche | do your thing with sysvinit if you're happy with it |
| 19:52.00 | Arrowmaster | upstart was retarded from the beginning |
| 19:52.09 | Dagmar | I intend to, except I'll still be updating my system regularly |
| 19:52.28 | Dagmar | What I *won't* need to do is worry about replacing init because the compiled binary parts all exist in "solved problem" space. |
| 19:53.10 | jleclanche | Dagmar: so basically. I dont really care if you create extra work and pain for yourself, thats really your own problem and if you prefer it that way, fine |
| 19:53.27 | Dagmar | LP carped about it only being modified twice a decade as if it were "dead" or something. There's only so much fucking around you have to do with a tiny little bit of code that's doing a very small set of things. |
| 19:53.29 | jleclanche | Dagmar: but what you're actually doing is toxic - trying to maintain that your way is the one true way and fuck poettering because pulseaudio |
| 19:53.40 | Dagmar | Not just because of pulsewudio |
| 19:53.53 | jleclanche | what else, network manager? |
| 19:54.05 | Dagmar | They're perfectly welcome to find new and interesting ways to paint themselves into corners in n-dimensional spaces |
| 19:54.38 | jleclanche | you maybe noticed something Dagmar but the reason we're having this discussion is because everyone is adopting systemd |
| 19:54.40 | Dagmar | The NM people have begun to learn not to go nuts |
| 19:55.03 | Dagmar | Let's take DHCP for instance. In the dawn of time, they invoked dhclient because it worked |
| 19:55.16 | Dagmar | Then they decided they needed their own dhcp library |
| 19:55.18 | jleclanche | everyone is adopting systemd because everyone isn't as insane as you and actually realized there is a big problem with sysvinit and systemd solves it, and several other problems, very well |
| 19:55.30 | jleclanche | nobody forced anyone to adopt systemd. however, you're trying to force your philosophy on others |
| 19:55.39 | jleclanche | not really cool and kinda hypocritical |
| 19:55.50 | airtonix | http://zippy.gfycat.com/ShadyVariableHylaeosaurus.webm |
| 19:55.54 | Dagmar | THat's a whole new pile of problems they got to solve, because it turns out that operating an ethernet card at that level isn't as easy as they thought. NM is now unable to be used on several platforms it worked on fine before. |
| 19:56.04 | jleclanche | airtonix: use https://mediacru.sh please. seriously |
| 19:56.14 | Dagmar | ...and they managed to suffer a few nasty little remotely triggerable bugs |
| 19:56.26 | airtonix | jleclanche: sell me on it |
| 19:56.30 | Dagmar | Sometimes the answer is to actually let other people continue to solve the problems you don't have _time_ for |
| 19:56.35 | Arrowmaster | whats wrong with gfycat? |
| 19:56.53 | jleclanche | airtonix: the gfycat guys are shady as all fuck. mediacrush is open source, privacy-first, tor-friendly, https-only |
| 19:56.57 | jleclanche | and did i mention its open source |
| 19:57.03 | airtonix | i'm not even conciously using it. but I can be convinced to evangilise creationism |
| 19:57.14 | Dagmar | jleclanche: Please tell me how I'm trying to force my philosophy on others by refusing to use their code |
| 19:57.17 | Arrowmaster | does mediacrush do html5 video? |
| 19:57.31 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: yes, everything gfycat does, mediacrush does - but it also supports a lot more formats |
| 19:57.38 | jleclanche | they are working on text support (= pastebin ui) as well |
| 19:57.46 | airtonix | pastebin sucks. use gists |
| 19:57.53 | airtonix | stop being bad |
| 19:57.55 | Arrowmaster | ok, ive never seen an html5 mediacrush video yet so i didnt know |
| 19:57.56 | jleclanche | gists are nice but overkill for lots of things |
| 19:57.59 | airtonix | no |
| 19:58.02 | airtonix | always GIST! |
| 19:58.21 | airtonix | version control all the things |
| 19:58.21 | jleclanche | anyway, because it uses predictive hashing on the files, when you run mediacrush instances locally, identical files will show up at the same urls |
| 19:58.32 | jleclanche | lwhich means you can easily own your data |
| 19:58.42 | Dagmar | airtonix: I bet you love Sharepoint |
| 19:58.47 | Dagmar | ducks |
| 19:58.52 | airtonix | i will fucking end you |
| 19:58.59 | Dagmar | heheh |
| 19:59.15 | airtonix | quiet place, quiet place, quiet place, quiet place. |
| 19:59.28 | jleclanche | airtonix Arrowmaster: there you have it - i have more coming from there, but gfycat tried to jump on the idea that mediacrush started and threw money at the problem with a bigass marketing team |
| 19:59.40 | jleclanche | so its kinda disgusting they're getting all the praise when they are inferior and worse in every way |
| 19:59.50 | jleclanche | (and scummy at that) |
| 19:59.59 | jleclanche | so yeah, please, evangelize. |
| 19:59.59 | airtonix | media crush needs more sex |
| 20:00.10 | jleclanche | mediacrush is super popular in the porn subreddits fwiw. |
| 20:00.16 | airtonix | homepage is underwhelming |
| 20:00.23 | jleclanche | (as it turns out, high quality bouncing boobs are a thing people want) |
| 20:00.48 | jleclanche | airtonix: what do you expect from the homepage? |
| 20:03.21 | kd3 | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/04/landfill-excavation-unearths-years-of-crushed-atari-treasure/ |
| 20:05.24 | airtonix | jleclanche: i thnk the mic and the drop upload need to be equal presense on the page |
| 20:05.26 | Alram | https://twitter.com/mashable/status/460146515806539776/photo/1 i like how they are already playing it |
| 20:06.20 | Dagmar | kd3: I would have thought people working with heavy digging equipment wouldn't be allowed to smoke pot on the job |
| 20:06.51 | Dagmar | It's with good reason Atari buried those |
| 20:07.15 | jleclanche | So how's Wildstar looking? is it as good as people say it is? |
| 20:07.22 | Dagmar | In addition to sucking hard, they really did accidentally make a ridiculously larger number of those cartridges than Atari 2600 units existed |
| 20:07.29 | Dagmar | They would literally _never_ be able to sell them all |
| 20:08.01 | Dagmar | They are the gnomish army knife of Atari |
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| 20:09.52 | Dagmar | If you took the sound of ET stomping around and put it as a notification sound on your phone, whenever you get an SMS, people over the age of 35 would be likely to look around in a panic |
| 20:28.37 | Neffi | https://i.imgur.com/2PJ5FuC.jpg good ol' internet trolls |
| 20:39.00 | Semlar | yeah nobody would back up something that important |
| 20:44.57 | airtonix | hey neffi, define "troll" |
| 20:45.09 | airtonix | are you using that word as a censorship tool? |
| 20:46.01 | airtonix | or are you really a tyrant in the making, turning innocent words into socialogical trigger words that turn disidents into throught criminials? |
| 20:48.21 | Arrowmaster | Neffi: and then they redid the entire movie anyway because the story for that version sucked |
| 20:50.22 | airtonix | you're a bad person Neffi |
| 21:03.10 | Neffi | wtf airtonix |
| 21:03.11 | Neffi | D: |
| 21:03.20 | airtonix | you should feel bad |
| 21:03.26 | Neffi | now I do! |
| 21:03.28 | Neffi | cries |
| 21:03.30 | airtonix | GOOD! |
| 21:03.34 | Semlar | tries to calm neffi down |
| 21:03.37 | airtonix | let the spice flow! |
| 21:03.52 | Neffi | wtf does that mean? i saw it on imgur today |
| 21:03.57 | A-KO | sup |
| 21:04.00 | airtonix | OMFG |
| 21:04.02 | Semlar | dune reference |
| 21:04.03 | Neffi | aye Semlar :D |
| 21:04.05 | airtonix | i kill you |
| 21:04.18 | Neffi | ._. |
| 21:07.59 | Neffi | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100708/02510310122.shtml i feel so much less bad about piracy now |
| 21:08.15 | Neffi | in fact this makes me want to pirate even if I can afford not to |
| 21:08.26 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:09.50 | Neffi | clever |
| 21:10.30 | Fisker | I hope that becomes a valid argument then Neffi |
| 21:10.55 | Fisker | Since the movies don't earn money there is no practical loss of profit |
| 21:11.20 | Neffi | I wonder if these cooked numbers are a factor when studios go "look how much we're losing compared to <before we started heavily cooking our books>! stop piracy!" |
| 21:22.56 | airtonix | you shouldn't hollywood account a movie Neffi. |
| 21:23.04 | airtonix | it's immorale |
| 21:23.22 | airtonix | and a bunch of other guilt trip based words |
| 21:23.28 | Neffi | I don't actually pirate anything. I'm an upstanding citizen who always follows the law and never does anything that might find me in a civil suit. |
| 21:23.31 | Neffi | coughs. |
| 21:23.49 | airtonix | I also am a law abiding citizen |
| 21:23.51 | Neffi | Herein I have performed no admission of guilt, just a silly quip! |
| 21:24.43 | airtonix | however! As a law abiding citizen, I have become quite adept at spotting fraudulent claims of law abidance. |
| 21:25.04 | Neffi | then surely sir you know me to be an innocent! |
| 21:25.37 | airtonix | well, the sucking sounds coming from your direction are casting doubt onto your case |
| 21:27.23 | Neffi | o.o |
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| 21:37.29 | airtonix | http://i.imgur.com/OrW1TOY.jpg |
| 21:37.39 | airtonix | oh woops. supposed to use mediacrush |
| 21:37.46 | airtonix | curses |
| 21:39.55 | Neffi | I don't understand the dislike for imgur. I think somebody in here is just trying to promote their own competiting site |
| 21:40.08 | airtonix | nah |
| 21:40.16 | airtonix | you're just paranoid |
| 21:40.17 | Neffi | Media Crush is good, but so is imgur |
| 21:45.01 | nevcairiel | mediacrush still hasnt fixed c opy/pasting screenshots from the clipboard |
| 21:45.08 | nevcairiel | sucky site is sucky! |
| 21:45.20 | airtonix | sounds like your face |
| 21:46.05 | airtonix | whoops in gleee |
| 21:54.46 | Gnarfoz | I can't access mediacrush from work, our proxy chokes on it :D |
| 21:57.07 | nevcairiel | arent you an admin person, get it fixed |
| 21:59.07 | Semlar | have you tried turning it off and on again? |
| 21:59.32 | airtonix | perhaps this will help unblock it: would you choke on this? http://i.imgur.com/cuy7oBF.jpg |
| 22:00.12 | Gnarfoz | not the responsible admin person |
| 22:01.11 | Semlar | are you the irresponsible admin |
| 22:01.30 | airtonix | he's bastard operator from hell |
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| 22:03.16 | Gnarfoz | where'd the day go? :| |
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| 22:45.04 | VIad | I remember september 11, 2001. so much dust. I watch superman and I see sooooo many buildings collapse, yet so little dust in the air |
| 22:45.57 | VIad | realistically it should all be a dust cloud, everywhere in the movie :P |
| 23:08.24 | A-KO | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49tpIMDy9BE < pretty epic music video |
| 23:25.12 | znf | Soo... Linode is saying that a 64bit kernel will hapily run 32bit binaries and libraries |
| 23:25.30 | znf | (I'm switching from a 32bit kernel to a 64bit kernel because of their "mandatory" migration) |
| 23:25.44 | kd3 | sure, as long as you've got the 32bit libs installed |
| 23:25.55 | kd3 | plays d3 in 32-bit mode in f20-x86_64 |
| 23:27.49 | znf | well, my VPS is 32bit |
| 23:27.55 | znf | *everything* about it is 32bit :) |
| 23:28.02 | znf | just the kernel will be 64bit |
| 23:28.22 | kd3 | then you'll still be fine. the whole point of x86_64 is that it's backwards compatible with i686 |
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| 23:53.24 | Dagmar | Well... not quite, but every distro worth a damn ships the multilib support necessary to use 32-bit binaries |
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