| 00:00.41 | Razernok | I've already seen that addon. It didn't help me any in making the addon I want |
| 00:01.00 | jleclanche | Razernok: are you an aolbot? |
| 00:01.36 | Semlar | he's either trolling us or doesn't quite understand |
| 00:02.43 | jleclanche | or is a very poorly configured AI |
| 00:03.12 | Semlar | i was thinking english second language |
| 00:03.21 | TC-Work | Within 2 min of last night I just assumed what was wanted was the addon created for them. |
| 00:03.41 | TC-Work | if you don't know how to code, there is no 'help'. |
| 00:03.48 | Semlar | right |
| 00:04.06 | jleclanche | Razernok: on the basis that you are not trolling: if you want to learn how to make addons, learn how to write code; good starting point here: http://wowpedia.org/Getting_started_with_writing_addons |
| 00:04.17 | jleclanche | Razernok: you will not get any other kind of help at the point you currently are |
| 00:04.46 | Razernok | like I already said, I've already seen that addon. It didn't help me any in making the addon I want |
| 00:04.51 | jleclanche | Razernok: that is not an addon. |
| 00:05.49 | Neffi | Razernok: http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/ , http://wowpedia.org/World_of_Warcraft_API , http://wowpedia.org/Widget_API |
| 00:05.50 | Neffi | go nuts |
| 00:06.10 | Semlar | well, scrolling up it appears he was in here earlier asking the same thing |
| 00:06.18 | Semlar | and got about the exact same response |
| 00:06.19 | Razernok | that little tutorial is an addon. as you make one that has nothing in the addon except for a Hello text |
| 00:06.35 | TC-Work | Right, it is a primer. |
| 00:06.39 | Primer | huh? |
| 00:06.43 | Neffi | lol |
| 00:06.44 | Semlar | you don't want to learn how to write an addon, you want someone to write you an addon |
| 00:06.47 | TC-Work | there is nothing that is going to walk you through step by step to make what you wanty |
| 00:06.49 | TC-Work | want* |
| 00:07.00 | TC-Work | ~lart Primer |
| 00:07.00 | purl | steals Primer's mojo |
| 00:07.03 | Primer | I will! (for a fee) |
| 00:07.11 | Primer | except my addons mostly suck |
| 00:07.15 | Neffi | tree fiddy per line |
| 00:07.57 | jleclanche | Razernok: if you want to take things further than the simple addon you write in that guide, Neffi just gave you a bunch more links. you don't sound like you are willing to make any effort towards that goal though so I'm just going to stop talking to you and recommend everyone else to do the same |
| 00:08.12 | Primer | awww |
| 00:08.13 | Primer | so mean |
| 00:08.22 | jleclanche | Razernok: if you have money, go on http://peopleperhour.com and hire someone. |
| 00:13.06 | Razernok | all i asked was for help making my addon. |
| 00:23.23 | Primer | well, you need to ask a specific question about addon programming, and we'll help you |
| 00:40.43 | Razernok | -_- |
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| 00:51.07 | Semlar | you might say we help those who help themselves |
| 00:51.19 | TC-Work | I help myself daily. |
| 00:51.26 | Semlar | it really saves on effort |
| 00:51.31 | kd3 | I'll help myself to another glass of wine! |
| 00:51.44 | Dagmar | TC-Work: TMI. |
| 00:51.47 | TC-Work | You sound like Unkle, kd3 |
| 00:52.03 | TC-Work | Dagmar: Lies, you know it made you wet. |
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| 00:52.39 | kd3 | it helps that one of my old roommates' father was a wine distributor. getting the good stuff on the cheap is great |
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| 00:54.01 | kd3 | s/was/is/ |
| 00:54.03 | kd3 | lrn2tense |
| 00:54.46 | Shirik | can someone do me a favor |
| 00:54.48 | Shirik | ping 2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe96:4b47 and tell me if it's responsive |
| 00:55.41 | Arrowmaster | i would but i dont have ipv6 yet |
| 00:55.53 | kd3 | ^ |
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| 00:57.02 | Shirik | I had ipv6 support |
| 00:57.05 | Shirik | and suddenly this stopped working |
| 00:57.50 | TC-Work | ping6 2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe96:4b47 |
| 00:57.50 | TC-Work | connect: Network is unreachable |
| 00:57.51 | Razernok | I just need help building this addon. Its nothing major, just moving and resizing frames. |
| 00:57.52 | Gnarfoz | --- 2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe96:4b47 ping statistics --- |
| 00:57.52 | Gnarfoz | 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4004ms |
| 00:57.56 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: ^ |
| 00:58.09 | Shirik | ok thanks |
| 00:58.10 | Arrowmaster | TC-Work: thats what i get too! |
| 00:58.35 | TC-Work | well it fails for google as well so it must be on our side |
| 00:58.55 | Arrowmaster | i get that because i dont have ipv6 |
| 00:59.21 | TC-Work | But I do... |
| 00:59.42 | Arrowmaster | i havent flashed ipv6 firmware to my router yet but i havent heard of timewarner having ipv6 anyway so i dont need to reflash the router yet |
| 01:02.09 | A-KO | is on v6 |
| 01:02.22 | A-KO | 2601:a:f00:465:3867:b35:3f4a:7dd3 |
| 01:04.43 | Primer | ping6 floods that IP |
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| 01:09.26 | Shirik | I would like to know why people have a ping6 |
| 01:10.47 | Neffi | Shirik: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/why-separate-ping-and-ping6-907813/#post4496974 |
| 01:12.34 | Razernok | I just need help building this addon. Its nothing major, just moving and resizing frames. |
| 01:14.40 | TC-Work | If it is nothing major then you should be able to do it yourself |
| 01:16.20 | Razernok | I dunno how though |
| 01:17.27 | Shirik | "From a developer's point of view: since the underling raw sockets API is totally different between IPv4 and IPv6, we would end up having two types of code base." |
| 01:17.32 | Shirik | This sounds like a shitty way to write code |
| 01:17.51 | kd3 | welcome to the kernel? |
| 01:18.01 | Shirik | but I guess you could make the argument that ICMPv6 should never have existed either |
| 01:18.32 | Shirik | actually |
| 01:18.33 | TC-Work | It does seem odd to me that they simply did not fold it in to existing functions |
| 01:18.36 | Shirik | maybe just ICMP shouldn't exist |
| 01:18.45 | Shirik | but obviously it's too late for that |
| 01:19.28 | Primer | then how would you handle connection refused? |
| 01:19.37 | Primer | and friends |
| 01:19.41 | Shirik | I'm not saying replace it with nothing |
| 01:19.55 | Shirik | I'm saying that it tends to violate the whole OSI model of separation |
| 01:20.48 | Primer | uhhh |
| 01:21.48 | Shirik | fundamentally, there is very little difference between ICMP and ICMPv6 |
| 01:21.55 | Shirik | the real reason it exists is because it knows too much about IP |
| 01:22.08 | Shirik | this is a failure in abstraction |
| 01:22.37 | Primer | guess I just don't see that |
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| 01:36.32 | Shirik | uh oh |
| 01:36.33 | Shirik | oh noes |
| 01:36.36 | Shirik | ohno |
| 01:36.53 | Shirik | omg |
| 01:36.56 | Shirik | my heater gave me a heart attack |
| 01:37.09 | Shirik | fucking bird and a heater were in sync with each other |
| 01:37.16 | Shirik | and sounded exactly like a hard drive click of death |
| 01:37.33 | Semlar | do birds usually click |
| 01:37.40 | Shirik | no the heater did |
| 01:37.49 | Shirik | the bird was kinda making the scratching sound |
| 01:37.58 | Shirik | not scratch but like high pitched movement |
| 01:38.06 | Shirik | right before the click |
| 01:38.40 | Semlar | neffi my crusader's up to 2 million dps |
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| 01:41.23 | Gnarfoz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Systems_Interconnection#Criticism & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Protocol_Suite#Comparison_of_TCP.2FIP_and_OSI_layering read like you've got a misunderstanding of how the OSI model relates to what's running the internet today |
| 01:42.15 | Neffi | Semlar: is that good? |
| 01:42.42 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:42.43 | Shirik | Gnarfoz: oh I get that much |
| 01:43.07 | Semlar | says i'm 108 for american crusaders USA USA |
| 01:43.08 | Shirik | this is actually a small aspect of my hatred for most open source software |
| 01:43.46 | Shirik | we actually had a fun discussion about that recently because we're hiring a network-specialized software engineer |
| 01:44.16 | Shirik | pro tip: any candidate that can get into a 30 minute debate about networking protocols is probably a good choice |
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| 01:50.49 | Stanzilla | Semlar: what's with the gipsy gems? |
| 01:51.26 | Semlar | oh i didn't buy gold when the auction house was up |
| 01:51.43 | Semlar | so i can't make fancy gems |
| 01:52.03 | Stanzilla | cheap excuse, farm moar! |
| 01:52.14 | Semlar | i don't wanna |
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| 03:08.32 | Sintacks | who is that person that works on DBM... |
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| 03:08.37 | Sintacks | was nebula169 wasn't it? |
| 03:08.57 | Sintacks | that said they'd add that thing that says when nazgrim heals if i gave them the needed info |
| 03:11.20 | kd3 | MysticalOS is the dbm guy |
| 03:17.39 | Sintacks | i think it was nebula169 that said something about putting it in though. i could be wrong |
| 03:31.04 | Sintacks | maybe it wasn't |
| 03:31.04 | Sintacks | idk |
| 03:31.06 | Sintacks | meh |
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| 03:42.12 | Razernok | grrr, I can't figure out how to make my addon :( |
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| 04:13.04 | MysticalOS | what? |
| 04:13.07 | MysticalOS | what I miss? |
| 04:13.47 | MysticalOS | adding nazgrim heals would be easy, but is it really needed? it's pretty obvious when his HP goes up |
| 04:40.33 | Sintacks | I j7ust noticed Peter Dinklage looks like one of my old instructors |
| 04:42.12 | Neffi | your old instructor is a good looking dude then |
| 04:55.30 | Wobin | sylvanaar_: ta for the ESO references in your IntelliJ Lua plugin |
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| 05:47.22 | Razernok | I finally got it to move a window. Only problem is it won't flush the chat window with the bottom of the screen |
| 05:48.42 | Razernok | any ideas??? |
| 06:03.57 | Neffi | ChatFrame1:SetClampedToScreen(false) |
| 06:04.30 | Semlar | SetsClampedToNeffi(true) |
| 06:04.49 | Gethe | o.o |
| 06:05.08 | Gethe | get a room |
| 06:05.15 | Semlar | i thought this was our room |
| 06:05.39 | Gethe | >.> |
| 06:06.29 | Neffi | http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_fKiy1oPSrbc/S6KP7dRXZCI/AAAAAAAAAo4/oQNvUkT7c0Q/s320/stoptouchingme.jpg |
| 06:07.30 | karl_w_w | jleclanche, leper gnome is one of my favourite cabal shadow priest targets |
| 06:09.53 | karl_w_w | oh my ftl pissed me off so much last night, i was nearly done with the quest to unlock the crystal ship when i came up against this automated drone. the thing just kept launching missiles at me, and not only did every single one of them hit but every single one of them started fires, and the first one took out my doors |
| 06:11.12 | karl_w_w | and i was armed to the fucking teeth but all my shots kept missing. i was using the fed cruiser so i had the artillery beam but that took out pretty much everything except his missiles |
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| 06:16.22 | Razernok | Anyone know of an addon that can simply move the combat log to a nice window? |
| 06:19.26 | Semlar | you can detach the combat log from the chat frame |
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| 06:36.00 | Razernok | What's the Frame name for tooltip? |
| 06:40.42 | karl_w_w | GameTooltip |
| 06:41.51 | Razernok | grrr, it won't let me move it |
| 06:42.17 | Neffi_ | A new position is set its time its shown/used |
| 06:42.40 | Razernok | how can I lock the position to the one I pick? |
| 06:44.49 | Neffi_ | Razernok: like this; change the anchor point as needed http://codepad.org/n8Ukv9wb |
| 06:45.22 | Neffi_ | That's for the default location |
| 06:45.33 | karl_w_w | this sounds like recipe for disaster |
| 06:45.46 | Neffi_ | Eg, this changes where the tooltip would appear when you mouseover a unit in the game world |
| 06:45.58 | Razernok | Neffi_, perfect |
| 06:46.11 | Neffi_ | karl_w_w: does the recipe include chocolate chips? |
| 06:46.55 | karl_w_w | all recipes include chocolate chips or bacon |
| 06:46.57 | karl_w_w | or both |
| 06:47.04 | Neffi_ | both. always both |
| 06:47.38 | Razernok | Woot, now the tooltip is perfectly placed |
| 06:52.32 | karl_w_w | does anybody else find that they occasionally spontanetous chuckle like dr hibbert? |
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| 06:53.02 | karl_w_w | if i try to do it deliberately i cant |
| 06:53.21 | Neffi_ | o.O |
| 06:54.13 | zenzio | karl_w_w: who's that? |
| 06:54.51 | Neffi_ | zenzio: http://youtu.be/hED7PFkY98I |
| 06:54.54 | nevcairiel | you dont know dr hibbert? |
| 06:55.08 | zenzio | nevcairiel: no, doesn't ring a bell |
| 06:55.57 | zenzio | oh, that's his name? |
| 06:56.25 | zenzio | I would be worried about not remembering that, if it didn't happen so often to me |
| 06:56.40 | zenzio | I could only keep track of the names in Game of Thrones after reading the books |
| 06:57.04 | Razernok | does OnLoad() trigger when you change screen resolution? |
| 06:57.28 | nevcairiel | probably not |
| 06:57.55 | nevcairiel | it fires when you reload the UI |
| 06:58.04 | nevcairiel | does the game do t hat on res change? |
| 06:58.11 | nevcairiel | I dont usually change my res mid-playing :p |
| 06:58.11 | Neffi_ | no |
| 06:58.28 | Neffi_ | I dont even think it does a gx restart on res change, but it might. But it wont run OnLoad |
| 06:59.40 | Razernok | wtf, I'm sitting here on the PTR and after having my script move the chatframe1 it bounced back to the oringal position. |
| 07:00.38 | Neffi_ | Very quickly after you log in, user-placed positions are applied |
| 07:00.55 | Neffi_ | as in those applied by :SetUserPlaced |
| 07:00.59 | Razernok | my addon moves the chatframe1 |
| 07:01.29 | Neffi_ | try adding a :SetUserPlaced(false) call when you reposition it |
| 07:02.00 | Razernok | before i move it or after i move it? |
| 07:02.29 | Neffi_ | Either or |
| 07:02.58 | Razernok | dunno why the game moved it all on its own |
| 07:03.12 | Neffi_ | it's a feature |
| 07:03.16 | Razernok | and its during runtime. not during loading |
| 07:03.43 | Razernok | What triggers it? |
| 07:03.55 | Neffi_ | that's to ensure that the code responsible for initializing the frame doesn't overwrite the custom position the user set. The delay is intentional |
| 07:04.24 | Razernok | i wonder how long the trigger is |
| 07:05.23 | nevcairiel | its usually not long enough for you to notice it |
| 07:05.31 | Razernok | This is my current code |
| 07:05.39 | Razernok | http://codepad.org/UMivY8jV |
| 07:05.39 | nevcairiel | its just late in the init, not mid playing |
| 07:05.51 | Razernok | it happened mid game |
| 07:06.02 | Neffi_ | Then it's probably an addon doing it |
| 07:06.09 | Razernok | wtf, it just did it again mid game |
| 07:06.28 | nevcairiel | the default ui repositions some frames on its own on certain events |
| 07:06.50 | Razernok | I need to stop it |
| 07:08.31 | Razernok | it keeps moving it every few mins or so |
| 07:49.21 | karl_w_w | why do people say retweeted when the correct form is obviously retwot? |
| 07:50.44 | Wobin | karl_w_w: Retwat |
| 07:51.10 | rid_ | hi karl_w_w |
| 07:51.20 | rid_ | hey Fisker |
| 07:52.29 | karl_w_w | hello rid_ |
| 07:52.47 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHLBZvte48Y this really got me |
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| 09:50.30 | airtonix | http://broxxar.itch.io/flappy48 |
| 09:56.30 | airtonix | http://newbrict.github.io/Fe26/ |
| 09:57.41 | nevcairiel | thats mean, elements decay again |
| 09:58.37 | nevcairiel | and those that do are useless anyway, that makes it quite complicated |
| 10:08.50 | airtonix | it's brilliant! |
| 10:09.29 | airtonix | now someon go make flappy[fe26][insert-genome-sequence-here] |
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| 10:58.30 | Maldivia | that Fe26 is annoying |
| 11:02.44 | bluipodcow | Who ? |
| 11:03.08 | Humbedooh | that Fe26! |
| 11:03.30 | Humbedooh | shakes head at bluipodcow |
| 11:04.12 | bluipodcow | The metal ? |
| 11:05.08 | rid_ | bluipodcow: 11:56 < airtonix> http://newbrict.github.io/Fe26/ |
| 11:06.33 | Maldivia | I'm starting to hate magnesium because if that thing |
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| 13:04.18 | airtonix | lawl "Come watch season two of under the dome, we kill two of the main characters to appease your anger" |
| 13:04.24 | airtonix | fuck.that.show. |
| 13:06.07 | airtonix | In one episode someone stole a bunch of drugs from a pharmacy and then this exchange happened: |
| 13:06.08 | airtonix | Guy 1: "They couldn't have gotten far." |
| 13:06.08 | airtonix | Guy 2: "What, because of the dome?" |
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| 13:51.41 | zenzio | http://games-beta.slashdot.org/story/14/04/23/0232201/the-door-problem-of-game-design |
| 13:55.51 | j311yf1sh | i read that earlier today by accident, was quite interesting |
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| 14:48.26 | Shirik | http://www.demilked.com/magazine/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/truth-facts-funny-graphs-wumo-11.jpg |
| 14:48.28 | Shirik | it is true :( |
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| 14:49.12 | nevcairiel | this is why kitchens dont get smoke detectors |
| 14:50.30 | Shirik | my kitchen is connected to the living room |
| 14:50.40 | Shirik | like without walls |
| 14:50.58 | nevcairiel | thats not ideal |
| 14:51.09 | mikma | shirik: fire? really? i've never seen that happen! |
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| 15:22.03 | Maldivia | Shirik: one section is missing: battery low |
| 15:22.17 | Torhal | My kitchen flows directly into my living room as well. |
| 15:22.28 | nevcairiel | i haz a door |
| 15:22.36 | Torhal | Maldivia: That's just a chirp, though. Not a full-blown wailing. |
| 15:23.24 | nevcairiel | if i leave the door open, the smoke detector in front of it went off once or twice already, but if i close it and open a window, all is fine :p |
| 15:42.39 | karl_w_w | http://www.twitch.tv/amazhs/c/4113357 so many ragnoroses |
| 15:42.44 | karl_w_w | ragnorii |
| 15:45.32 | Shirik | I simply get no excitement out of hearthstone |
| 15:45.42 | Shirik | it's too simple |
| 15:45.52 | nevcairiel | is it normal for someone to have nothing but gold cards |
| 15:46.26 | karl_w_w | no |
| 15:46.40 | karl_w_w | he has like 2 non-goldens in that deck |
| 15:46.57 | karl_w_w | a month or something ago somebody kept donating money and saying to spend it on packs |
| 15:47.44 | nevcairiel | Shirik: you like the tcg but not hs? |
| 15:47.49 | Shirik | correct |
| 15:48.05 | nevcairiel | arent all these games kinda similar |
| 15:48.11 | Shirik | there's probably a natural bias in there too, but no |
| 15:48.13 | Shirik | not even remotely |
| 15:48.20 | Shirik | the similarity ends at the fact that they reused the art |
| 15:48.35 | karl_w_w | my priest deck is about a third golden without spending much money at all, but most of those goldens are the rewards from levelling the class |
| 15:48.45 | nevcairiel | one thing i remember from playing magic a decade ago is that hs doesn't have resource cards |
| 15:49.00 | nevcairiel | but only the static mana |
| 15:49.50 | karl_w_w | there's a few things HS can do only because it's digital, of course |
| 15:50.07 | Shirik | many TCG players believe hearthstone has way too many luck-based elements |
| 15:50.10 | karl_w_w | like drawing copies of cards from your opponent's declk |
| 15:50.16 | Shirik | both magic and wow tcg |
| 15:51.09 | Shirik | the other very common comment is that you rarely have to think about what your opponent is thinking |
| 15:52.21 | karl_w_w | in hearthstone? |
| 15:53.56 | Shirik | yes |
| 15:54.25 | Shirik | in other news |
| 15:54.30 | karl_w_w | you don't have to think about what your opponent is thinking in any game |
| 15:54.33 | Shirik | someone created the greatest abomination ever |
| 15:54.45 | Shirik | they mixed flappy bird with 2048 and produced flappy48: http://broxxar.itch.io/flappy48 |
| 15:54.51 | karl_w_w | but if you want to be successful in HS you have to |
| 15:55.06 | nevcairiel | Shirik: its unity player, go away |
| 15:55.17 | Shirik | this is not the majority opinion of the people I've been watching comments from, karl_w_w |
| 15:55.29 | nevcairiel | Shirik: also, brush up on your chemistry and play http://newbrict.github.io/Fe26/ |
| 15:55.38 | karl_w_w | the majoroity of HS players are morons Shirik |
| 15:55.46 | Shirik | yeah except these people are people I trust |
| 15:55.51 | karl_w_w | they think the game is purely pay to win or luck |
| 15:55.52 | Shirik | they literally make a living off playing card games |
| 15:56.55 | Shirik | it's broken nevcairiel |
| 15:57.00 | Shirik | I don't know where they got the code but it doesn't work |
| 15:57.30 | Shirik | http://i.gyazo.com/ad87e1ca0553bcb55ddfd42d3b51583e.png |
| 15:57.33 | Shirik | can't go left |
| 15:58.06 | Shirik | wait wtf |
| 15:58.22 | Shirik | ok maybe not broken, just the progression not understood |
| 15:58.45 | Maldivia | scroll down to see valid fusions |
| 15:58.59 | Shirik | oh :( |
| 15:59.44 | Shirik | ok this is pretty impressive nevcairiel |
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| 16:02.17 | Maldivia | be ready to bitch when ever you get a Magnesium :( |
| 16:02.55 | VIad | Maldivia: ? |
| 16:04.08 | VIad | can one emulate ipad on osx? |
| 16:04.16 | VIad | just curious since it's both apple and both got itunes :D |
| 16:04.41 | VIad | if you got a touch screen mac it would be neat to have an ipad emulator with it ^^ |
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| 16:08.39 | Shirik | Maldivia: I had a more severe "bitching out" moment |
| 16:09.15 | Shirik | when I had 4He, 4He, 16O |
| 16:09.31 | Shirik | and apparently pushing right results in magnesium |
| 16:09.37 | Shirik | instead of combining the two 4He |
| 16:09.51 | Shirik | actually Neon |
| 16:09.55 | Shirik | but then I wasn't paying attention and hit right again |
| 16:09.58 | Shirik | because I was confused |
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| 16:13.19 | Maldivia | Shirik: Magnesium is just plain annoying, because you cant remove those |
| 16:14.40 | Shirik | yeah |
| 16:14.44 | Shirik | but how I got there was even more annoying |
| 16:15.11 | Maldivia | once you get two 16O together, you basically won |
| 16:18.56 | Shirik | oh wikipedia http://i.gyazo.com/9e566b52939d7225eb2975e821f6f00a.png |
| 16:19.15 | Shirik | I log in, and it simultaneously tells me "login successful" and "there was an error" |
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| 17:02.16 | Wobin | amazing http://git-man-page-generator.lokaltog.net/ |
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| 17:07.24 | Fisker | btw jleclanche |
| 17:07.32 | Fisker | why all the oneplus one hyp now? |
| 17:09.37 | jleclanche | Fisker: Im not sure. ive never heard of it before. |
| 17:09.44 | Fisker | Ah |
| 17:09.48 | Fisker | That's weird |
| 17:09.58 | Fisker | Been the most hyped phone the last 6 months or something retarded like that |
| 17:14.47 | Shirik | someone tell me |
| 17:14.50 | Shirik | should I get a galaxy s5 |
| 17:16.38 | TC-Work | Sub. Jec. Tive. |
| 17:16.51 | Shirik | yes but opinions are valuable |
| 17:16.55 | Shirik | I have a 4s |
| 17:17.03 | TC-Work | I have a note 3 and rather enjoy it. |
| 17:18.10 | TC-Work | Although I would get a windows phone if they had google voice. |
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| 17:22.06 | Shirik | they have cortana now |
| 17:22.20 | Shirik | oh wait |
| 17:22.23 | Shirik | google voice |
| 17:22.25 | Fisker | what other choices do you have Shirik ? |
| 17:22.27 | Shirik | why doesn't it exist |
| 17:22.29 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 17:22.35 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 17:22.40 | Fisker | I didn't hey Shirik you why you hey Fisker me? |
| 17:24.12 | Fisker | :( |
| 17:24.57 | TC-Work | Shirik: They said something about not enough people using it to make it worthwhile. |
| 17:25.21 | TC-Work | there was a 3rd party app that did it, but then google at some point removed access for that |
| 17:26.36 | Shirik | tbh I agree with that |
| 17:26.40 | Fisker | I want someone to fuck telecompanies in the ass |
| 17:26.45 | Shirik | I haven't used my google voice account in forever |
| 17:27.01 | Fisker | No more telephones |
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| 17:27.04 | Fisker | just voip |
| 17:27.11 | Fisker | but samsung galaxy s5 Shirik |
| 17:28.03 | nevcairiel | the telephone companies around here would be happy to ditch the old analog/isdn lines and do everything over data, Fisker |
| 17:28.21 | Fisker | Oh yeah definitely |
| 17:28.39 | nevcairiel | they keep offering things to you when you switch to a voip contract |
| 17:28.50 | Fisker | Especially when they can charge 100-1000 times the cost of transferring calls because you're calling another country |
| 17:29.17 | Fisker | I want something grander nevcairiel |
| 17:29.27 | Neffi_ | Verizon wanted to just not replace some legacy lines after Sandy around here. That didn't go over well, but I think all telecoms are in the same boat, nev |
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| 17:29.50 | Neffi_ | I'm guessing data is a lot cheaper. It seems like it would be |
| 17:29.54 | Fisker | I gotta pee |
| 17:29.58 | Fisker | Obviously |
| 17:30.18 | nevcairiel | everything else pretty much needs dedicated lines, or a converter to data :p |
| 17:32.41 | Dagmar | THey don't really get a choice |
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| 17:33.29 | Dagmar | They argued for protected monopoly status everywhere, and that means they have to maintain the lines, even if they're unprofitable or they're running ten miles of copper to little old woman who is still on one of those weird party line plans |
| 17:34.41 | nevcairiel | maybe in the US, but analog is slowly being turned off aorund here |
| 17:35.15 | nevcairiel | in the worst case they put a converter into the street box |
| 17:35.20 | Fisker | You're pretty nevcairiel |
| 17:36.55 | nevcairiel | why thank you |
| 17:37.39 | TC-Work | s/r// |
| 17:37.48 | TC-Work | ...not what I ment to do. |
| 17:37.53 | Neffi_ | ha |
| 17:38.20 | nevcairiel | TC-Work: you are petty! |
| 17:38.21 | TC-Work | meant* |
| 17:38.28 | TC-Work | That I am nev |
| 17:38.40 | Neffi_ | no nevcairiel he meant: You'e pretty nevcairiel |
| 17:38.57 | nevcairiel | thats what purl would've done, anyway |
| 17:39.03 | Torhal | As in "That nevcairiel guy is pretty nevcairiel?" |
| 17:39.36 | Fisker | wanna fight about it? |
| 17:39.45 | TC-Work | Who needs commas? |
| 17:39.58 | Torhal | fights Fisker with a comma. |
| 17:40.09 | Fisker | Gonna put you in a coma |
| 17:46.17 | Fisker | good |
| 17:46.24 | TC-Work | ~lart Fisker |
| 17:46.24 | purl | acting on orders from an unspecified client drags Fisker into court suing for $200 million |
| 17:46.29 | Fisker | nope |
| 17:46.30 | Fisker | too late |
| 17:46.46 | TC-Work | 200 Million? Bah, at least make it worthwhile. |
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| 18:24.37 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 18:25.25 | Arrow|phone | First day of new job, all 3 of the servers used for backing up and reimaging machines are down so they can't show me the process |
| 18:26.04 | Fisker | fuck that Arrow|phone |
| 18:27.49 | Seerah | hehe |
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| 18:28.44 | TC-Work | Less driving this time Arrow|phone? |
| 18:28.54 | Arrow|phone | No |
| 18:34.25 | Primer | they must be running windows |
| 18:35.44 | Fisker | u w0t m8? |
| 18:50.46 | Arrow|phone | Sitting in on a conference call with all the department heads talking about the issue, can't do the planned rollout tonight |
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| 18:53.44 | Primer | Sounds like an OPs gig |
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| 19:04.27 | Primer | lua_bot: HI! |
| 19:04.27 | lua_bot | Primer: luabot:1: '=' expected near '!' |
| 19:04.35 | Primer | so pedantic |
| 19:04.57 | Primer | lua_bot: print ("I love you too, Primer!") |
| 19:04.57 | lua_bot | Primer: I love you too, Primer! |
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| 20:00.22 | mikma | tharper: i agree. Finland next! |
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| 20:19.15 | karl_w_w | http://www.twitch.tv/dendi I watch this stream to find interesting music |
| 20:20.24 | karl_w_w | sometimes it's just terrible music |
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| 20:53.57 | Cairenn | delurks, runs around smoogling everyone, then relurks. |
| 20:54.33 | haste | such lurker |
| 20:56.34 | Unkle | so lurk |
| 20:56.50 | alestane | sets up motion detectors. |
| 20:57.31 | TC-Work | Cairenn must be losing it, I still have my pants. |
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| 21:04.38 | Cairenn | But seriously guys, I still <3 you all. I'm sorry I'm so absent these days, but I've been busy getting another community up and running and that requires a lot of active-presence time. |
| 21:05.19 | Semlar | so you've been seeing other people |
| 21:05.24 | Cairenn | Whereas this community is good and solid, and you all know that if you need me you just have to ping. |
| 21:05.25 | TC-Work | Damn work getting in the way |
| 21:05.44 | Cairenn | Yeah Semlar, I sowwy *hangs head* |
| 21:06.03 | TC-Work | 'good' and solid'? You must be kidding me, we have people like Fisker and karl_w_w in here. |
| 21:06.08 | TC-Work | Not to mention me. |
| 21:06.08 | Cairenn | lol |
| 21:07.42 | alestane | Which new community? Is there a WildstarUI out there? |
| 21:07.58 | Cairenn | ESOUI |
| 21:08.03 | alestane | Oh right. |
| 21:08.03 | TC-Work | heh, I read that was WildStartUI |
| 21:08.22 | alestane | That's what I typed for a second before I corrected it, actually. |
| 21:10.07 | karl_w_w | you're the only problem here TC-Work |
| 21:11.57 | Neffi | https://i.imgur.com/krcUjZf.jpg |
| 21:12.04 | Torhal | I don't know about that, karl_w_w; Humbedooh is rather disrputive. |
| 21:12.05 | Neffi | Cairenn: ^ :) |
| 21:12.18 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 21:15.56 | TC-Work | karl_w_w: Hardly. |
| 21:20.33 | Primer | I feel sad every time I get a SW:TOR email |
| 21:22.25 | Primer | because I really wanted SW:TOR to be good |
| 21:22.26 | Primer | and it wasn't |
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| 21:46.05 | pompy | Torhal: no YOU are |
| 21:46.09 | pompy | :P |
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| 21:51.48 | Primer | heh they sent the same SW:TOR email again |
| 21:52.00 | Unkle | Look at all you guys claiming to be trolls and disruptive. |
| 21:54.55 | TC-Work | glares at Unkle |
| 21:56.32 | pompy | ~lart Unkle |
| 21:56.32 | purl | slams Unkle against a large cement Tux |
| 21:56.37 | pompy | ! |
| 21:57.11 | Unkle | Damn. I thought you were trying to kill me with your damned diet soda, but now you want to smash me against concrete? |
| 21:58.10 | g0urra | Primer: I haven't had an email from them in ages |
| 21:58.25 | pompy | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2611201/Teenage-girl-charged-police-loaded-handgun-hidden-genitals-prison-pat-down.html ok then.... |
| 22:01.12 | TC-Work | She must be rather loose. |
| 22:01.19 | g0urra | "hidden genitals" |
| 22:03.27 | g0urra | When told where the gun had been hidden, Mr Southern said he would eventually like the weapon back but it would require a 'bath in bleach', according to the website Smoking Gun. |
| 22:04.39 | Unkle | That's a pretty small gun, but ... ewwww |
| 22:07.53 | g0urra | but wait, there's more! http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/keistered-gun-snuck-into-jail-685431 |
| 22:08.22 | pompy | lol |
| 22:09.28 | Unkle | hey buddy, are you packing a pistol in your pooper, or are you just in a lot of pain? |
| 22:09.51 | g0urra | god damn some of these are classy |
| 22:09.54 | g0urra | "For the second time in two years, an Ohio man has been charged with public indecency for allegedly having sexual relations with a rubber pool float, police report." |
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| 22:19.17 | kd3 | ...so my phone goes off with an amber alert in mississippi. okay? I still live outside of atlanta though |
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| 22:22.01 | pompy | maybe its linked to your area somehow ;) research it :P |
| 22:22.14 | Semlar-Laptop | maybe they think you kidnapped someone |
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| 22:55.26 | nevcairiel | i wonder if this amber alert functionality is actually used anywhere outside of the US. My phone shows the option in the settings somewhere, but not like i ever got one |
| 23:01.17 | A-KO | Canada, US, Mexico |
| 23:01.39 | A-KO | Queensland, Australia |
| 23:02.02 | A-KO | Belgium, Czech Republic, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, UK, Portugal, Romania |
| 23:02.16 | nevcairiel | maybe they just dont kidnap children around here! |
| 23:02.24 | A-KO | Malaysia |
| 23:03.13 | A-KO | A Scripps Howard study of the 233 AMBER Alerts issued in the United States in 2004 found that most issued alerts did not meet the Department of Justice's criteria. Fully 50% (117 alerts) were categorized by the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children as being "family abductions", very often a parent involved in a custody dispute. There were 48 alerts for children who had not been |
| 23:03.13 | A-KO | abducted at all, but were lost, ran away, involved in family misunderstandings (for example, two instances where the child was with grandparents), or as the result of hoaxes. Another 23 alerts were issued in cases where police did not know the name of the allegedly abducted child, often as the result of misunderstandings by witnesses who reported an abduction |
| 23:09.28 | pompy | oh wow so gamespy services shutting down for good the end of may |
| 23:09.45 | pompy | http://blog.cyberpowerpc.com/2014/04/23/gothalion-borderlands-1-multiplayer/ |
| 23:10.29 | nevcairiel | gamespy was still alive? |
| 23:14.27 | pompy | kd3: http://www.11alive.com/story/news/local/2014/04/23/amber-alert-issued-for-child-believed-headed-for-alabama-or-georgia/8063319/ |
| 23:14.33 | pompy | nevcairiel: iknorite |
| 23:17.21 | fewyn | i'm pleasantly surprised at how well hearthstone runs on my windows 8 tablet |
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| 23:23.23 | pompy | ohh Zynga http://venturebeat.com/2014/04/23/zynga-founder-mark-pincus-steps-down-from-product-role-as-new-chief-fills-out-management-team/ |
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| 23:35.45 | Razernok | hey |
| 23:36.20 | Razernok | I keep getting this error even though the global exist: Message: Interface\AddOns\Test\test.lua:52: attempt to index global 'RazerNagaFrame1' (a nil value) |
| 23:37.58 | alestane | Check that the capitalization matches between the frame definition and the line with the error. |
| 23:38.29 | Razernok | its correct |
| 23:38.55 | Razernok | my addon is modifying another addon's frames |
| 23:39.01 | alestane | If there are multiple files in the addon, make sure that the file that defines the frame is being loaded first. |
| 23:39.10 | Arrowmaster | yours is loading before the other addon, fix the toc |
| 23:39.25 | alestane | Did you add a dependency to make sure your addon doesn't load until after the other one? |
| 23:39.37 | Razernok | yes i did |
| 23:40.11 | Razernok | listed on my toc |
| 23:40.12 | Razernok | ## Dependencies: Recount, RazerNaga |
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| 23:42.07 | Arrowmaster | is the other addon creating the frame sometime after startup |
| 23:42.17 | Razernok | i dunno |
| 23:42.38 | alestane | In what code in your addon is the problem line? An event? an OnUpdate? |
| 23:42.46 | Razernok | i didn't make the RazerNaga addon |
| 23:43.02 | Razernok | I'm doing mine OnLoad |
| 23:47.08 | alestane | Is the target add-on Load on Demand? |
| 23:47.15 | Razernok | no |
| 23:47.23 | Razernok | load when you enter game |
| 23:48.55 | fewyn | http://flappy2048.com/ |
| 23:50.22 | Razernok | my lua code http://codepad.org/sbANK1QM |
| 23:51.04 | Razernok | its also not moving my chat frame |
| 23:51.47 | alestane | And which of those lines is line 52 in your original file? |
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| 23:53.41 | Razernok | there is no line 51 |
| 23:53.49 | Razernok | only 38 lines long |
| 23:53.54 | Razernok | 52* |
| 23:54.58 | alestane | Well, it says the error was being thrown on line 52. |
| 23:55.23 | alestane | And your code paste is 71 lines long by itself. |
| 23:56.19 | alestane | I'm presuming you have a Test.toc file, a test.lua file, and probably a test.xml file in your AddOns\Test folder. |
| 23:56.26 | Razernok | yea |
| 23:57.09 | alestane | And is that paste the entirety of test.lua? |
| 23:57.16 | Razernok | yes |
| 23:57.44 | alestane | There isn't an extra blank line chopped of the beginning ro anything. |
| 23:58.09 | Razernok | no |
| 23:58.40 | alestane | Hm. What program did you use to edit your add-on files? |
| 23:58.46 | Razernok | notepad |
| 23:59.11 | alestane | Does anyone else remember if Windows line breaks cause any problems in add-on lua files? |
| 23:59.11 | Razernok | here i fixed the lines to show how it looks in notepad to me |
| 23:59.12 | Razernok | http://codepad.org/wFAJLIPb |
| 23:59.46 | alestane | I highly recommend using a more funcitonal editor like PSPad or Notepad++ (both free). |
| 23:59.58 | alestane | Among other things, they understand about different styles of line endings. |
