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| 01:30.50 | nebula169 | no updates in awhile, a lot of projects were hit with that last time curse ran their make everything inactive process |
| 01:42.39 | Shadowed | If you do not mark a project as mature, it can get marked as inactive when they do a sweep |
| 01:43.33 | phelps | ahh |
| 01:43.36 | phelps | i see |
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| 06:18.05 | Razernok | Hey |
| 06:20.09 | Razernok | Could someone help me? I want to make an addon that repositions other addons to certain locations and has a nice graphic background. |
| 06:22.37 | Thunder_Child | What kind of helping are you looking for exactly? |
| 06:23.12 | Razernok | I dunno how to do it. |
| 06:23.40 | Thunder_Child | Sounds like you should read up then |
| 06:25.17 | Razernok | -_- |
| 06:26.19 | Thunder_Child | ~wowprogramming |
| 06:26.19 | purl | i heard wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons - http://is.gd/7A3Jx - a book written by Cladhaire (jnwhiteh) and Gazmik, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 06:29.15 | karl_w_w | why not just use an addon that already does the job |
| 06:29.31 | Razernok | None do what I want |
| 06:33.22 | karl_w_w | other than moveanything |
| 06:34.37 | Razernok | not that simple |
| 06:43.27 | karl_w_w | a lot simpler than trying to make a new addon when you have no idea how |
| 06:46.04 | zenzio | anyone familiar with postfix/mailqueues on linux? |
| 06:46.18 | Razernok | I need the addon to preposition and size other addons and UI elements for me. No existing addon does that |
| 06:47.13 | Thunder_Child | zenzio: somewhat |
| 06:47.14 | zenzio | preposition? You can't position frames that don't yet exist |
| 06:48.03 | zenzio | Thunder_Child: I'm seeing things like "20820E76C9 5825 Mon Apr 21 02:23:49 SRS0=dNLV=ZV=aol.com=fafshari@<our actual domain>" in the queue, but I can't quite grasp it |
| 06:48.14 | zenzio | is someone trying to relay through out mail server, or is it coming from our own system? |
| 06:48.19 | Razernok | the frames would already exist due to other existing addons and UI elements. like Chat, recount, razer naga, and omen. |
| 06:48.30 | zenzio | *our |
| 06:49.00 | Thunder_Child | check the mac that it looks like is in the begning? |
| 06:49.11 | Thunder_Child | see if it is on your network |
| 06:49.26 | Thunder_Child | begining* |
| 06:49.55 | zenzio | oh, the first part of the line is a mac address? |
| 06:50.01 | Thunder_Child | Looks like one |
| 06:50.04 | Xuerian | Razernok: Frames are created on each UI load. You could do it if you opt-dep'd all your target addons, so yeah, you're basically going to have to do it yourself. Though keep in mind a lot of those mods store frame positions as options (Well, basically all of them do), so you'll have to worry about mucking with their databases. |
| 06:51.09 | Xuerian | But that's pretty standard for a preconfig addon, I suppose. You might want to look into addon packs that have their own similar addon and see how they do it. |
| 06:51.27 | Razernok | I want my addon to take chat, razer naga frames, omen, and recount and reposition plus resize them to my likely so all I'll need to do is install razer naga, omen, and recount. then my addon will do the layout for them |
| 06:52.03 | Xuerian | You made your goals pretty clear, your methods are still undetermined :p |
| 06:52.52 | Razernok | my addon would also lock the addons and UI elements to their positions |
| 06:53.40 | Xuerian | Continuing with goals and still lacking methods. My suggestion is still the same. Find a cohesive pack and look at its config addon. |
| 06:53.58 | Thunder_Child | zenzio: also take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sender_Rewriting_Scheme |
| 06:53.59 | Razernok | no addon exist to do what I need |
| 06:54.17 | zenzio | Thunder_Child: thanks, I'll do that |
| 06:54.23 | Thunder_Child | ^_^ |
| 06:54.29 | Razernok | I don't want to simply move the stuff around since I'd have to do it for 20 toons |
| 06:54.56 | Razernok | and redo it for any new toons I make |
| 06:55.14 | Razernok | something I want to avoid |
| 06:55.25 | Razernok | hence why I need to make this addon. |
| 06:55.31 | Razernok | I just need help |
| 06:59.09 | zenzio | well, I imagine you would start by finding out the names, or how to get a hold of, the correct frames from those addons |
| 06:59.23 | zenzio | then you could start repositioning |
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| 07:04.32 | Razernok | i dunno how to do that |
| 07:06.12 | zenzio | I think if you use the /framestack command (I think it was) then you can hover your mouse cursor over frames and it will show you the stack of frames under the cursor. Hopefully the root frame will have a name, like (for example) "RootChatFrame" |
| 07:07.44 | Razernok | -_- |
| 07:09.30 | zenzio | it's difficult to explain non-visually |
| 07:15.35 | Razernok | -_- |
| 07:15.55 | Neffi | if you keep making that face it's gonna get stuck like that |
| 07:21.25 | phelps | can I turn off all chat categories for a channel |
| 07:21.59 | Arrowmaster | lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqlHENpAvMw |
| 07:22.05 | phelps | RemoveChatWindowChannel isn't what i thought |
| 07:27.11 | Xuerian | Razernok: Why don't you just copy your config data over to new characters? What you want to do isn't easy, though it is a decent place to start out with addons, I guess. Copying the desired config would get you most of the way there with almost no effort. |
| 07:27.45 | Razernok | that's do hard to do. plus has to be done after you make a new toon |
| 07:27.58 | Razernok | also it doesn't fully work every time |
| 07:28.58 | phelps | an addon for doing that, or a framework at least, does exist |
| 07:29.23 | Razernok | I've looked, none exist |
| 07:29.26 | phelps | nah |
| 07:29.31 | phelps | haven't looked hard enough |
| 07:30.45 | Razernok | I've looks tons. nothing exist to do what i need |
| 07:34.08 | phelps | Razernok, Reflux |
| 07:34.10 | phelps | check that out |
| 07:34.20 | phelps | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/reflux |
| 07:34.37 | phelps | r. Its goal it to allow you to quickly switch all your addon profiles in one fair swoop. For addons that don't support profiles it emulates a profile. |
| 07:35.20 | phelps | Razernok, its what those bloat UI packs use |
| 07:35.32 | phelps | so I know it can place and configure just about any addon |
| 07:35.49 | Razernok | still isn't gonna do what i need |
| 07:36.03 | phelps | I bet it would |
| 07:36.04 | phelps | but ok |
| 07:37.34 | Xuerian | We've given you suggestions and pointed you in some good directions, but you should report back once you figure your problem and let us know how you solved it :) |
| 08:08.15 | Arrowmaster | i love threads like these, so many great stories http://www.reddit.com/r/rpg/comments/23ldy1/i_dont_know_what_i_expected_moments/ |
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| 10:37.04 | zenzio | in some circumstances I appreciate how English likes to break phrases into multiple words instead of joining them |
| 10:37.43 | zenzio | like "spring cleaning", which in Norwegian is "vårrengjøring" ("vår" = spring, "rengjøring" = cleaning) |
| 10:38.05 | zenzio | then you get bug reports like "text overlays image", and CSS is powerless to do something right about word wrapping |
| 10:38.13 | zenzio | or is it called word breaking |
| 10:38.56 | zenzio | either way it cannot tell that it should (typically) break it as "vårren-gjøring" (with \n after the dash) |
| 10:40.45 | haste | you can force breaks in CSS tho' |
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| 10:45.47 | zenzio | like I said, they don't know where to do it |
| 10:46.02 | zenzio | unless you want to work with ­ or fancy unicode stuff |
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| 10:54.51 | Fisker | Hey haste |
| 10:56.37 | haste | hey Fisker |
| 11:25.56 | VIad | SPELL_FAILED_CUSTOM_ERROR_212 = "Chimaeron is too calm to tame right now." |
| 11:33.52 | karl_w_w | boy the blacklist is really good |
| 11:35.35 | j311yf1sh | dont ruin it, havnt watched newest ep yet |
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| 12:02.26 | karl_w_w | neither have I |
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| 13:38.04 | zenzio | ESO's status tweets always says "the [EU/NA] megaserver is [...]" |
| 13:38.16 | zenzio | I keep wondering "is there some non-megaserver I'm unaware of?" |
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| 14:30.38 | Dagmar | zenzio: Yes, that would be the one no players use |
| 14:32.33 | zenzio | Dagmar: you seem to sometimes know a bit about these things; do you have any clue if there's a way to see which user sent a (specific) message, from postfix? |
| 14:33.58 | Dagmar | *blinkblink* |
| 14:34.00 | zenzio | pity |
| 14:34.09 | Dagmar | Read the mail headers. |
| 14:34.16 | Dagmar | Everything that can be known will be in there. |
| 14:34.36 | Dagmar | ...and barring that, there's always the From: field. |
| 14:34.37 | zenzio | suspect some customer has a compromised computer and is having mail sent from there, but haven't so far found out who; and I'm not very familiar with this |
| 14:35.05 | Dagmar | What makes you suspect this? |
| 14:35.06 | Dagmar | People complaining about spam? |
| 14:35.32 | zenzio | mail log pooling up with messages from servers that reject the mail |
| 14:35.55 | zenzio | but it's only happening slowly, so seems unlikely to be happening directly on our server |
| 14:36.38 | zenzio | ISP also received an abuse complaint |
| 14:37.21 | Dagmar | The log should record something about why the mail was rejected |
| 14:38.23 | zenzio | right now it mostly says "refused to talk to me" or "currently blocked", but I'll have to go back a bit and poke around |
| 14:38.39 | Dagmar | Sweet |
| 14:38.56 | Dagmar | make sure the customer pays extra for the time spent cleaning up the mess caused by their inattention to security |
| 14:39.42 | Dagmar | There should be some rather long encoded strings in the logs and in the mails you can use to work out the progress of individual mails through the queue |
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| 15:54.07 | pompy | if any Dragon Age fans .. http://www.examiner.com/article/dragon-age-inquisition-reveals-a-release-date-and-new-gameplay-trailer |
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| 16:06.20 | karl_w_w | hey guys i have a good idea, go to google images and look for blue waffles |
| 16:06.24 | karl_w_w | they are so tasty |
| 16:09.29 | alestane | cues Admiral Akbar. |
| 16:14.45 | Humbedooh | It's a trap!! |
| 16:14.57 | Humbedooh | can't help himself when someone says Akbar :( |
| 16:42.33 | karl_w_w | every 60 seconds in africa a minute passes, we can put a stop to this |
| 16:42.41 | karl_w_w | spread the word |
| 16:51.03 | Thunder_Child | spreads it on toast |
| 16:54.51 | Unkle | This is NoobSauce. He's all alone in a the harsh environs of Westfall. For just a few copper a day, you can help provide gear for NoobSauce and thousands of other players just like him. Won't you give generously to Twink a Noob Fund today? |
| 16:55.39 | jleclanche | haha |
| 16:55.41 | jleclanche | "So is the original OpenSSL code going to be donated to the Apache foundation, fall behind the forked LibreSSL in terms of features and overall code maintenance, yet still retain the majority of the install base because of name recognition? /s" |
| 17:32.36 | karl_w_w | lol they're remaking godzilla again? |
| 17:33.04 | karl_w_w | or at least, they've already done it |
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| 17:55.25 | Ressy | Blizzcon announced! |
| 17:55.49 | fewyn | https://twitter.com/BlizzCon/status/458665171595317249 |
| 17:55.51 | fewyn | woo! |
| 17:56.18 | nevcairiel | thats a weird date for the con |
| 17:56.51 | nevcairiel | either its shortly after the WoD launch, or shortly before, either is supposed to be a rather busy time for the guys in blue |
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| 17:57.59 | Fisker | old Ressy |
| 17:58.43 | nevcairiel | in either case, no big WoW focus on that con |
| 17:59.04 | Fisker | It's 10 year anniversary nevcairiel |
| 17:59.07 | Fisker | lol no wow focus |
| 17:59.17 | nevcairiel | they have no new things to talk about |
| 17:59.28 | nevcairiel | all they do is usually talking about new things |
| 17:59.45 | nevcairiel | can introduce one content patch or something, but thats no big news usually |
| 18:00.53 | karl_w_w | jobs to never do: http://i.4cdn.org/b/1398186764992.png |
| 18:01.52 | karl_w_w | nevcairiel, even if it is before wod launch, there would be nothing new to announce |
| 18:02.07 | nevcairiel | thats why i said "in either case" |
| 18:02.23 | karl_w_w | hmm |
| 18:02.36 | karl_w_w | will hots be out by then? |
| 18:03.32 | karl_w_w | cos unless there's gonna be another SC2 expansion then there wont be anything to talk about at all, other than maybe that small unannounced project they were hiring for |
| 18:06.22 | karl_w_w | well there could be a hearthstone thing to announce, whatever content they are adding after naxx |
| 18:06.28 | nevcairiel | not sure they ever talked about hots timeline much |
| 18:06.33 | karl_w_w | I'm sure they'll find stuff to gas about |
| 18:06.51 | nevcairiel | feels too soon for d3x2, maybe another sc2 xpac |
| 18:11.28 | karl_w_w | why am i still reading these 911 operator stories |
| 18:11.45 | nevcairiel | i stopped after a while, some just made me too sad |
| 18:12.11 | karl_w_w | they just get worse and worse |
| 18:16.15 | pompy | nevcairiel: weird date? thats what it was last year |
| 18:16.25 | pompy | iirc |
| 18:16.32 | nevcairiel | pompy: but there was no wow xpac in Q4 last year |
| 18:18.31 | nevcairiel | its not the date itself, but the timing relative to WoD that i find weird |
| 18:19.08 | pompy | was an xpac ever released in dec? |
| 18:19.17 | nevcairiel | first week of, yes |
| 18:19.51 | nevcairiel | cataclysm was december 7th |
| 18:20.12 | pompy | indeed |
| 18:20.52 | nevcairiel | oddly enough all xpacs and even wow itself were all released between september and january |
| 18:20.59 | karl_w_w | im pretty sure wod wont take that long |
| 18:21.32 | nevcairiel | MoP was in fact the "earliest" at sept 25 |
| 18:21.58 | pompy | ahh and $199 |
| 18:22.22 | nevcairiel | was it always this expensive? |
| 18:22.36 | nevcairiel | somehow i thought it was 150 |
| 18:22.36 | pompy | $175 |
| 18:23.12 | A-KO | is very likely not doing blizzcon this year :( |
| 18:23.14 | A-KO | as fun as it is |
| 18:23.51 | nevcairiel | they probably just keep increasing the price by $25 each year, as long as it still sells out instantly... :p |
| 18:24.07 | A-KO | yep |
| 18:24.23 | fewyn | http://isitblizzconyet.com/ |
| 18:24.25 | fewyn | mmm |
| 18:24.54 | pompy | nevcairiel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlizzCon 3rd paragraph ;) |
| 18:25.23 | A-KO | pompy: You going this year? |
| 18:25.55 | nevcairiel | the article seems a bit out of date, still talks as if 2013 is in the future |
| 18:26.14 | karl_w_w | are blizzard the only company with their own con? |
| 18:26.19 | pompy | nevcairiel: just pointing out the pricing |
| 18:27.07 | pompy | karl_w_w: a surviving one maybe |
| 18:27.32 | pompy | idk if minecon or that cod one is continued |
| 18:28.43 | A-KO | Quakecon |
| 18:28.46 | nevcairiel | there is still quakecon, which is more of a lan party then a proper con, but it is hosted to promote id games and other games of their publisher ... :p |
| 18:28.53 | A-KO | I'm going to Quakecon this year |
| 18:32.19 | pompy | and the benefit dinner tickets are $750 this year |
| 18:32.32 | pompy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlizzCon#BlizzCon_2014 |
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| 18:45.29 | karl_w_w | return flight to LAX would cost me $1300 :P |
| 18:46.01 | karl_w_w | one day people will work out cheaper travel |
| 18:46.09 | pompy | one day |
| 18:46.13 | pompy | in 4005 |
| 18:46.23 | karl_w_w | people cannons |
| 18:46.34 | karl_w_w | I think I'm onto something |
| 18:46.43 | karl_w_w | replace airports with large landing mats |
| 18:46.55 | karl_w_w | flawless plan |
| 18:47.13 | pompy | karl_w_w: elon musk beat you too it long ago http://www.space.com/22344-elon-musk-hyperloop-technology-revealed.html |
| 18:47.56 | pompy | less than 1000 miles apart though |
| 18:47.57 | pompy | lol |
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| 19:03.58 | Shirik_ | ~wiki An important feature of the java language |
| 19:04.30 | Shirik_ | if you want to program while wearing a uniform |
| 19:04.32 | Shirik_ | use java |
| 19:04.49 | zenzelezz | I thought uniforms were the main selling point of java |
| 19:04.53 | zenzelezz | especially in Japan |
| 19:05.29 | nevcairiel | if i wanted to program while wearing a uniform, i would've stayed in the army |
| 19:05.52 | nevcairiel | although i did find the uniform quite comfortable |
| 19:05.56 | Dagmar | I think it would perhaps depend on the uniform, for me |
| 19:06.37 | Dagmar | Get me some nice black leather with gold buttons and eagle's wings on it, and I might be your guy |
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| 19:22.39 | Dagmar | ...and what is this? |
| 19:22.41 | Dagmar | @#$@#$ |
| 19:36.43 | karl_w_w | http://i.4cdn.org/b/1398189082074.png |
| 19:37.03 | karl_w_w | let's be depressing! |
| 19:37.12 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:46.24 | pompy | jeez these d3 servers for like a week now.. doesnt blizzard know they've been lagging :P? i think they downgraded to 28.8k :P |
| 19:47.00 | Ressy | LA in general has been fucked. |
| 19:47.02 | Ressy | all providers |
| 19:47.17 | pompy | from the earthquakes or other means? |
| 19:47.21 | Ressy | nfi |
| 19:47.29 | Ressy | been like that for like 2 weeks tho |
| 19:47.33 | pompy | yeah |
| 19:47.51 | Ressy | http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r29192873-Cable-Diablo-III-Latency-Issue |
| 19:48.14 | Ressy | Gabe (ISP bofh) has been going nuts last few weeks trying to reroute to see if we can avoid problems. |
| 19:48.23 | pompy | if the achievements in d3 are really on separate servers for d3 .. i was at 99/100 for the treasure goblins.. i killed a goblin... and 10 mins later the achievement popped up! |
| 20:03.02 | Primer | lua> format ("%d", 1.11) |
| 20:03.12 | Primer | dammit |
| 20:03.39 | nevcairiel | the bot left us long ago |
| 20:03.44 | nevcairiel | i blame jnwhiteh |
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| 20:15.27 | Torhal | He killed it. |
| 20:17.15 | alestane | I thought lua_bot answered something just yesterday. |
| 20:17.41 | alestane | Although I think jnwhiteh is traveling at the moment, so he might not know ot restart it. |
| 20:18.49 | nevcairiel | ~seen lua_bot |
| 20:18.55 | purl | lua_bot <~lua_bot@li37-84.members.linode.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 23h 29m 45s ago, saying: 'Neffi: luabot:1: table index is nil'. |
| 20:19.07 | nevcairiel | interesting, i must've missed that he was back |
| 20:19.11 | nevcairiel | everytime i look, he seem gone :D |
| 20:19.20 | Torhal | Yeah, I haven't seen the bot in months it seems. |
| 20:26.08 | Arrowmaster | got everything ready to start my new job training tomorrow, just one problem, i woke up at 11:30 today and need to wake up at 6:30 tomorrow |
| 20:26.44 | Torhal | You're going to hate tomorrow, then. |
| 20:26.50 | Primer | Anyone know how to get the HP of an enemy unit by name in a bg? |
| 20:27.21 | nevcairiel | by name? not easily |
| 20:27.34 | Primer | I'm iterating using GetBattlefieldScore (i) |
| 20:27.53 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: after training i get to work 3rd shift though, midnight to 8 |
| 20:27.57 | nevcairiel | in an arena it would work, but in BGs, I doubt there is a sane way |
| 20:28.02 | Torhal | Not bad |
| 20:28.19 | nevcairiel | how is the graveyard shift good? :p |
| 20:28.26 | Arrowmaster | i hate mornings? |
| 20:28.27 | nevcairiel | unless you like that sort of thing, i guess |
| 20:28.42 | nevcairiel | no matter when you work, you always have a morning |
| 20:28.50 | nevcairiel | might not be the same as most other peoples though |
| 20:29.03 | Arrowmaster | im just happy to have a job again, and this one is paying great too for a contract position |
| 20:29.34 | Primer | nevcairiel: Can you think of anything that would work when using GetBattlefieldScore (index)? |
| 20:29.50 | Primer | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetBattlefieldScore |
| 20:30.10 | nevcairiel | dont think so |
| 20:30.17 | nevcairiel | its not something they might want to be available |
| 20:30.33 | Primer | yet raid frames show HP just fine |
| 20:30.42 | nevcairiel | for your team |
| 20:30.44 | nevcairiel | not the enemy |
| 20:30.46 | Primer | uhh |
| 20:30.49 | Primer | wrong? |
| 20:31.08 | nevcairiel | you have raid frames for the enemy? |
| 20:31.12 | Primer | I click through the players in battlegroundtargets to see their HP |
| 20:31.23 | Primer | I want to automate this |
| 20:31.25 | nevcairiel | well yes, when you target them, you have a unit id to work with |
| 20:31.36 | nevcairiel | but you need to have them in the target for this to work |
| 20:32.11 | Primer | so a hardware event is required |
| 20:32.19 | Primer | ultimately |
| 20:35.48 | phelps | what would cause my addon to not show in the stats |
| 20:36.15 | phelps | AddOn Memory only shows Auctionator |
| 20:39.36 | Neffi | You can map all target changes in your raid. On raid initialize, and every time UNIT_TARGET fires, check the target of that unit to see if it's the one you care about, and if so, remember that in some list. Then when you want to know the HP, you refer to the list of unitIDs which represents that individual |
| 20:40.23 | Neffi | it's cumbersome and eats a little performance, and it's not always reliable, but it's the only way |
| 20:42.31 | phelps | it does work, and pretty well more or less |
| 20:43.25 | Neffi | unless your team sucks, it should be reliable enough to gauge the HP of prominent units like the flag carrier, healers, etc |
| 20:43.43 | Neffi | If your team sucks the enemy FC and his healer just might make it all the way cross field without being targeted once |
| 20:43.54 | phelps | you can gain accuracy by dropping performance |
| 20:44.02 | phelps | appending target to stuff to go deeper |
| 20:44.03 | Neffi | you can only get so accurate |
| 20:44.07 | Neffi | true |
| 20:44.23 | Neffi | but it's trivial for a unit with stealth/invis capabilities to get away from anyone's sight |
| 20:44.26 | phelps | I usually checked unitTARGET on healers |
| 20:45.13 | Neffi | UNIT_TARGET doesn't run for raidNtarget, only raidN, so you'd have to lose a bit of performance and probe every N milliseconds |
| 20:45.19 | phelps | and you always know the HP of the flag holders |
| 20:45.33 | Neffi | Ah yes they are units arenaN |
| 20:45.37 | phelps | yeah |
| 20:46.35 | phelps | an addon like that is pretty unfair tbh |
| 20:46.41 | Neffi | Hmm. I just thought of a neat addon |
| 20:46.46 | phelps | but its possible within the limitations they set |
| 20:47.00 | Neffi | Ever play something like CoD where the minimap "pulses", showing the location of enemies each pulse? |
| 20:47.15 | phelps | that'd be neat |
| 20:47.26 | Neffi | That's somewhat possible in BGs, but not as accurately, and only for healers near the enemy FC |
| 20:48.11 | Neffi | The range of heals/buffs are roughly constant, so you can pinpoint through the combat log which healers are very close to the enemy FC, and get a good representation on the main map of how well healed the FC probably is |
| 20:48.38 | Neffi | it will only be able to pulse as often as an enemy actually heals their FC |
| 20:49.47 | Neffi | Actually you can map offensive moves against raidN members for which the location is known. And those should be spammy enough to get a good estimate of the location of most enemies |
| 20:50.23 | Neffi | At least good enough to know where the big fights in mid are taking place. Potentially invaluable for a flag carrier looking to get cross field |
| 20:51.58 | phelps | why blizz limits this stuff https://www.dropbox.com/s/sh0vkgxv0t3uq5r/Screenshot%202014-04-22%2015.51.35.png |
| 20:52.18 | phelps | neat radar stuff is possible |
| 20:52.42 | Neffi | I'm glad they limit it |
| 20:52.58 | Neffi | Having a very precise map of the enemy tactics is both unrealistic and bad for gameplay |
| 20:53.16 | phelps | was neat to code tho |
| 20:53.27 | Neffi | But getting a vague sense of where they are, which is possible, seems less harmful to me. You still can't know if that one or two rogues are prepared for ambush. |
| 20:53.31 | phelps | i agree though, not much use |
| 20:54.21 | Neffi | I mean, mid battles are all you can really know the location of, and those are just pin stripes. The real tactic is what the people not in mid are doing |
| 20:56.32 | phelps | even with non-honest methods of getting the info |
| 20:56.42 | phelps | the server just doesn't send stuff that far away to the client |
| 20:57.00 | phelps | its 120ish yards |
| 20:57.32 | phelps | you might get everything in a WSG, dunno |
| 20:57.34 | Neffi | the combat log? i thought it was much further now |
| 20:57.44 | phelps | nah |
| 20:57.49 | phelps | combat log is huge |
| 20:57.55 | phelps | getting precise XYZ coords |
| 20:58.11 | Neffi | well RGBs are the real important things, and you can coerce your regular teammates into running the addon, so you can get decent coverage with comm |
| 20:58.14 | phelps | its a fairly short range around the player |
| 20:58.56 | phelps | I've wanted to make an addon that uses AceComm |
| 20:59.02 | phelps | haven't had any ideas |
| 20:59.49 | Stanzilla | https://appleseed.apple.com/sp/betaprogram/learn?c=join |
| 21:00.38 | phelps | neat |
| 21:00.52 | phelps | but I don't think my editor supports ARC yet |
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| 21:34.50 | Primer | Well, my goal was to just whip up some code real quick to get the average HP of each team in a bg |
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| 21:35.15 | Primer | which is why I don't even have this in a real addon yet, it's just code in wowlua |
| 21:36.19 | Primer | I'll just make it into an addon and use UNIT_TARGET and click on everyone using battlegroundtargets |
| 21:36.26 | Primer | then once the list is complete, report |
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| 21:40.09 | kullervo | Primer: can't you fetch it from mouseover? |
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| 21:49.44 | Primer | I thought of that |
| 21:50.05 | Primer | just wasn't sure if the BGT frames would allow for that |
| 21:51.02 | Neffi | Wow. Taking apart my mother's broken laptop. She took it to a shop who couldn't fix it. He scavenged this thing. |
| 21:51.25 | Neffi | Took all the good screws and put back just enough shitty stripped ones to hold it together. And he replaced the good RAM with worse stuff |
| 22:00.27 | Primer | sue |
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| 22:13.56 | Neffi | so much for repair. the mainboard is cracked. ugh |
| 22:47.21 | zenzelezz | cracked? |
| 22:48.58 | Neffi | mhmm |
| 22:49.13 | Neffi | it got thrown quite hard |
| 22:49.22 | zenzelezz | I see |
| 23:27.39 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: there isn't much that is as infuriating as lethal by leper gnome |
| 23:27.42 | jleclanche | https://mediacru.sh/va4zbe9BY1Ng |
| 23:27.48 | jleclanche | its like... you can get rid of it, but you DIE |
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| 23:39.02 | Razernok | I can't figure out addon development. I really need help with making my addon. |
| 23:39.12 | Semlar | could you be more specific |
| 23:40.28 | Razernok | I want to make an addon that will reposition and resize other addons and Blizzard frames. Basically my addon will set the look. |
| 23:41.49 | Semlar | you want to skin everything? |
| 23:42.44 | Semlar | or just move it around |
| 23:43.10 | Razernok | i just want to reposition and resize existing addons and blizzard frames, plus lock them in place. |
| 23:43.42 | Semlar | have you tried the addon MoveAnything? |
| 23:44.11 | Razernok | I want to avoid having to redo it for every single toon |
| 23:44.23 | Razernok | hence having an addon to do it for me |
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| 23:46.15 | Razernok | i can't to just program it all into the addon. add of the addons and my addon will build my UI |
| 23:46.54 | Semlar | does this addon not do what you want http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/move-anything |
| 23:47.03 | Razernok | no it doesn't |
| 23:49.27 | Neffi | Writing addons isn't trivial. It requires scripting with a programming language, at the very least. If you really want to tackle it yourself, here's an intro guide http://wowpedia.org/Getting_started_with_writing_addons |
| 23:49.47 | Neffi | If you have no experience programming, don't expect to have a functional addon overnight |
| 23:49.56 | Neffi | smooches Semlar. |
| 23:50.01 | Semlar | neffiiiii |
| 23:50.17 | Semlar | i'm out of forgotten souls |
| 23:50.31 | Semlar | and you don't play diablo so you don't even understand |
| 23:50.33 | Razernok | I can't figure out how to make my addon |
| 23:50.47 | Neffi | I just linked you to a guide |
| 23:50.56 | Neffi | Semlar: no, I don't D: |
| 23:51.24 | Semlar | yeah we don't know how much you already know about writing an addon and what you're describing isn't all that simple to write |
| 23:52.10 | Semlar | adjusting the blizzard frames is one thing but changing every addon you run with could be tricky |
| 23:52.36 | Razernok | it should be a simple addon since its only moving and resizing existing addons and blizzard frames |
| 23:52.44 | Semlar | i see |
| 23:52.49 | Neffi | That's not as simple as it sounds, Razernok |
| 23:53.25 | Semlar | neffi in diablo you can reforge items but to reforge a legendary you have to disenchant other legendaries |
| 23:53.29 | Razernok | I just dunno how to do it |
| 23:53.34 | Neffi | If a frame is masqued behind a local with no global whatsoever, then moving it would be tricky, probably involving probing into the addon's SVs in such a manner that the addon doesn't also accidentally overwrite your change |
| 23:53.38 | Neffi | For just one instance |
| 23:54.09 | Semlar | and you don't get to pick what it reforges into, you roll randomly |
| 23:54.23 | Neffi | sounds very grindy |
| 23:54.35 | Semlar | so it would be like.. using 10 sha crystals or something to reforge an attribute into something random |
| 23:54.39 | Neffi | artificial playtime inflation sucks |
| 23:55.11 | jleclanche | Razernok: it doesn't sound like you want to write an addon, it just sounds like you want a specific addon. Neffi linked you a page to get started but nobody in this channel can answer the question "help me" because that is not a question. |
| 23:55.48 | Razernok | no existing addon does what i want |
| 23:55.55 | Neffi | hey jleclanche what ever happened with that git-backed wiki? |
| 23:56.13 | jleclanche | Neffi: I want to finish it some day but ive gotten new contracts that take all my time |
| 23:56.24 | Stanzilla | jerome is too busy these days |
| 23:56.27 | Neffi | aww. Well that's good I suppose |
| 23:56.41 | jleclanche | Neffi: it is still on my mind. and it has proven very useful actually |
| 23:56.54 | jleclanche | i will take another stab at it when git 2.x is released |
| 23:57.01 | Neffi | I'm interested if it ever comes to completion |
| 23:57.29 | jleclanche | Neffi: it's "usable" already |
| 23:58.25 | jleclanche | Razernok: i get that no existing addon does what you want. that happens. but what you're asking is "how do I write addons". if you do want to learn that, start with the guide you were linked. if you just want "an addon"... keep looking. it wont spontaneously materialize. |
| 23:58.45 | Razernok | I have no clue how to make the addon i need. I just need help making it |
| 23:59.35 | jleclanche | Razernok: you've been given a starting point, the guide. Read it, understand it, do your best and ask real questions once you've given things a fair shot |
