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01:03.51zenzelezzblargh... trying to compile VLC, the "make" makes no complaints, but "make install" ends up with a "cannot stat `libdash_plugin.so'"; and I can't figure out why the file would be missing. Can't find anything about DASH in "./configure --help", nor anything about adaptive streaming
01:35.58Thunder_Childzenzelezz: why not just get the installer?
01:37.53jleclanchezenzelezz: tried #videolan ?
01:42.46zenzelezzThunder_Child: by now, merely curiosity
01:43.15zenzelezzjleclanche: will try if I don't figure it out soon
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11:21.27VIad"It appears that Хируко of Razuvious-EU has managed to complete all of the regular character achievements, along with 205 of the ~340 Feats of Strength. According to him, Realm First of every class on the same day by transferring to a low population PvP realm and multiboxing while his guild killed anyone trying to level before him."
11:23.19VIadI like the part involving multiboxing and guild gank :D
11:46.20g0urraat first I read it as guild bank and was thoroughly confused
11:55.40KodiackAnd here I read it as guild rank, hah!
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13:34.58LopeppeppyNo more freakin' mashed potatoes. I am easter'd out.
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13:45.10DagmarYou realize mashed potatoes aren't some kind of traditional Easter food, right?
13:45.22DagmarHard-boiled eggs, perhaps.  Mashed potatoes, no.
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13:55.20Silvanassoft boiled chocolate eggs are the best
13:56.38DagmarOh yes
13:57.02DagmarSome wanker went to the local Walgreen's last night at 9pm and bought out almost all their remaining Cadbury eggs
13:57.07DagmarI hope they enjoy their diabeetus
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14:51.24ParnicArrowmaster: that'd be sweet, wouldn't it?
14:54.37airtonix<PROTECTED>
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15:08.43Fiskerhey Parnic
15:09.12Parnichi fisk
15:11.22Parnicdo you like dags?
15:11.57airtonixwhat makes you think it likes anything?
15:12.07Parnicyou're right. it doesn't.
15:15.33Fisker/dags?
15:15.36Fiskerme Lopeppeppy
15:15.38Fiskerdamn
15:15.42FiskerLopeppeppy
15:17.43LopeppeppyNo Fisker. Me. Always me.
15:17.56Fisker:o
15:18.09LopeppeppyMy boyfriend is a vegetarian, so there were a lot of mashed potatoes served alongside the hams and turkeys and whatever else.
15:18.29Humbedooh..made with bacon grease..
15:18.31Humbedoohmmm
15:19.25LopeppeppyEvil. There is no bacon at Passover.
15:26.40Fiskereww
15:26.42Fiskervegetarian
15:26.50Fiskerno offense of course
15:29.51Humbedoohall the offense and eggs you got
15:30.15DagmarLopeppeppy: no, your clerics are lazy
15:31.01DagmarLopeppeppy: If they can turn water into wine with a few words, and make babies from heathens into holy children with a sprinkling of water, surely they can turn bacon into fish.
15:48.29zenzelezzsportsmanship, World of Tanks style: http://imgur.com/fbse7wK
15:48.52zenzelezz(noisy background because it's a collage of pictures; chat scrollback isn't very big in WoT)
15:52.33LopeppeppyChocolate I got.
15:53.03LopeppeppyI did NOT eat the fish. I couldn't even stand the smell. And I've eaten lutefisk, but I couldn't touch gefilte fish.
16:03.22ArrowmasterParnic: you know where you can find beta testers
16:22.50pompyhttp://7ny.tv/1nCddJL :O seriously
16:30.35FiskerFish sucks Lopeppeppy
16:32.14Lopeppeppy*giggle snark*
16:36.59karl_w_wso, flying via wheel well 50/50 chance of survival, that we know of
16:37.04karl_w_wI like those odds!
16:39.24FiskerI'm dying Lopeppeppy :(
16:39.57LopeppeppyDrink some water, Fisker. It sometimes helps.
16:40.06FiskerNot against this
16:40.28LopeppeppyI dunno then, Fisker. *hug*
16:40.42FiskerBut at least we have universal healthcare
16:40.51FiskerSo I won't have to turn to a life of crime
16:44.54FiskerBut maybe I should do it for fun
16:47.33LopeppeppyCrime is often fun. The Joker says so.
16:48.09Maldivia...and we all know how that turned out
16:53.58LopeppeppyHe got a good hotel room.
16:54.17karl_w_whttp://gif-explode.com/?explode=http://i.imgur.com/l3Tyokn.gif I have seen a ridiculously large percentage of these movies
16:54.27karl_w_wI am quite pleased
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16:55.41karl_w_wand of the ones I have seen, all but 2 of them were really good, so I can only assume the ones I haven't seen should also be watched
17:05.12Silvanascant make out why i receive addon messages with "\83" rather then "S", for a while i though it was chatthrottlelib, but i cant seem to find any code there that does this
17:06.05Silvanasanyonw know of any addons that does this?
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18:20.23Silvanas~lua test
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18:32.26Neffi_> print(2+2, "I am the Lua bot")
18:32.47Neffi_pokes lua_bot
18:32.58Neffi_lua> 2+2
18:32.58lua_botNeffi_: 4
18:33.02Neffi_Silvanas: ^
18:35.04Silvanaslua> t = {}; t[true] = 1
18:35.06lua_botSilvanas: No output
18:35.22Silvanasso it does work to index a table with T/F :D
18:35.29Silvanaslua keeps amazing me.
18:36.41Neffi_yes, anything but nil
18:40.54alestaneAnd you can ask for a nil index, you just can't assign one.
18:41.19alestanelua> t = {}; print(t[nil])
18:41.19lua_botalestane: nil
18:41.31alestaneIt will always be nil, of course.
18:47.10nevcairielsuddenly, metatables!
18:47.25Neffi_fuck nev I was writing it  <_<
18:47.44PrimerI read that as "suddenly, meatballs!"
18:47.52nevcairielyou must be hungry
18:47.54Neffi_lua> t=setmetatable({},{__index=function(self,k) if k == nil then return 1 end end}); print(t[nil])
18:47.54lua_botNeffi_: 1
18:58.09TC-WorkPrimer needs more balls.
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20:34.17Neffihaha https://i.imgur.com/6xvjueu.gif
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20:46.06karl_w_wtwo thoughtsteals against druid, two stolen golden black knights
20:46.09Silvanasthanks for the lesson lol, didnt know you could index a table with nil, i am used to errors then
20:46.17karl_w_wthoughtsteal op
20:46.50Silvanasheardstoned?
20:47.10karl_w_wi did hear that yes
20:47.13Silvanasi used to have a druid murloc dec :D
20:47.19SilvanasMuaurgrrlrrlrlrlr
20:47.50NeffiSilvanas: Well indexing is a silent failure, since grabbing t[nil] is not valid. New-indexing is a vocal failure unless you overload
20:48.22Silvanasyeh that makes sence
20:48.57Neffilua> local t_n t = setmetatable({}, { __newindex = function(self,k,v) if k == nil then t_n = v end end, __index = function(self,k) if k == nil then return t_n end end  }; t[nil] = 1; print(t[nil])  -- that should work
20:49.00lua_botNeffi: luabot:1: ')' expected near ';'
20:49.08Neffilua> local t_n t = setmetatable({}, { __newindex = function(self,k,v) if k == nil then t_n = v end end, __index = function(self,k) if k == nil then return t_n end end }); t[nil] = 1; print(t[nil]) -- that should work
20:49.10lua_botNeffi: luabot:1: table index is nil
20:49.13Neffiwell no it doesnt work
20:49.19NeffiWell, you should never actually do that anyway
20:49.57Silvanaswhat is that? local t_n t = ?
20:49.59NeffiBut it is convenient to not have to make sure k in `` local a = t[k] `` is not nil
20:50.12Silvanasisnt local seposed tobe followed by 1 variable not two?
20:50.23NeffiSilvanas: Just a register to hold the contents of t[nil]. I was seeing if I could implement:  t[nil] = value; print(t[nil])
20:50.51Neffiwhat I wrote is essentially local t_n; t = ...;  I just didnt add the semicolon. It's not mandatory
20:51.17Silvanaslol yeh now you put it like that :D
20:52.26Silvanasthis reminds me why i hard a hardtime writing a lua interpeter, the language is so modular, it can be written in many ways
20:53.39Neffilua.exe implements the reference interpreter, partially as an example of how to extend/use Lua in C. If you're proficient, you can use the Lua source itself as a basis for your own interpreter implemented in Lua
20:53.51NeffiEssentially port the behavior from C to Lua
20:54.10Neffihttp://www.lua.org/source/5.1/
20:54.21Neffiin fact it's one file it seems http://www.lua.org/source/5.1/lua.c.html
20:56.15Silvanasi went for an aprouch to find semicolons and opporators with string finds
20:56.37NeffiWere you trying to compile the code yourself?
20:56.50Silvanassome complex lua regexés :D
20:57.06Neffiwell the source for luac is available too! heh
20:57.39Silvanasthe idea is to load a lua function section by section, so for exanple "local t_n" is one section and "t = setmetatable()" is another
20:58.33Silvanasthat way i could execute it piece by peice using laod string, so that i had a ingame wow lua debugger, where i could inspect variables (mouse over them) and execte step by step
20:59.02Silvanasit works, until i had to start working on function calls & scopes that when i lost intrest :D
20:59.46Neffiif we had access to debug.* that would be much easier to implement, without needing to write a parser
21:00.04Silvanasyep
21:00.36Silvanasbut got sick of all the try & error runs i do when coding, so i decided to code an ingame addon IDE
21:00.50Silvanaswas a great idea, except it was to big for me
21:00.54NeffiApproach your code design in a testable way
21:02.01Silvanasthat would have been a better idea
21:03.11Silvanasoh well i am off to bed. good nite
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21:15.35VIadbreaking bad was a good show :)
21:18.04karl_w_wbut overrated
21:22.38karl_w_whacka löken!
21:24.54g0urraskala potatisen - med din kropp!
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21:35.59karl_w_wthat's not possible g0urra :(
21:36.14karl_w_wwell, unless you have some kind of implant
21:36.25g0urraI can, because I'm swedish
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21:54.38Arrowmasterafter 4 months of being unemployeed i got a call today from a recruiter i talked to a month ago asking if i was still available because he has a new position open, i start wednesday
21:54.53kd3|hate`netkickass!
21:54.58kd3congratulations!
21:55.15Arrowmasteronce im trained it will be a midnight to 8am shift
21:55.22kd3oof
21:55.46Arrowmasterand i have to drive 1.5 hours to get there, but its $18/h so fuck yeah!
22:02.50phelpscan you find a chat window by name ?
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22:19.49kd3well, that's alarming. I look at top and see 'dnf' listed. when did I install duke nukem forever?
22:30.32Endor maybe one of your processes did not finish because your computer is now a race
22:32.22karl_w_whttp://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgments/r-v-watkins-and-others.pdf
22:32.54karl_w_wdidn't know it was that bad
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23:21.12Stanzillaalpha patch \o/
23:22.58Arrowmasteremployment paperwork asked for my HS graduation date, i had to go find my diploma to look it up.... who asks this shit
23:25.02JamashI didn't go to high school, only got a GED recently because a high school diploma/ged proves nothing
23:25.07TC-WorkPeople who actually wanty to check
23:25.14TC-Workwant*
23:25.16JamashI call it my sixth-grade equivalence
23:26.05JamashI need to finish my associate's degree
23:26.21Jamashgotta get a job to go to school to get a degree to get a job
23:26.37Jamashremind me why college isn't free in the US
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23:26.44ArrowmasterTC-Work: its probably easier for them to verify my AS degree than my HS diploma
23:27.19TC-Works/AS/ASS/
23:27.24JamashArrowmaster: wait you have a college degree and they care about high school?
23:27.29Jamashthat's...stupid
23:27.36TC-WorkYes, but you don't need one to have the other I think.
23:27.46TC-WorkDepends on the place I suppose.
23:28.02Arrowmasterive got some 20 online forms to fill out and one asked for SSN, DoB, HS graduation date
23:28.21Jamashgetting my GED made me considerably more depressed about the state of american education
23:29.26Jamashapparently being able to add, subtract, multiply, divide and know as much about science as is contained in one episode of any PBS documentary puts one in the 99th percentile
23:30.02Jamashand this is worth paying more than a hundred dollars to get a certificate for
23:31.06Arrowmasteri hate having to fill out employment histories, i dont know the primary phone numbers or addresses for the places ive worked
23:31.12Jamashgoogle
23:31.56Jamashalso they probably don't care, nobody's ever asked me about stuff I've left blank
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23:37.03airtonixugh, some guy decides it's a good idea to use the frameXML anchor positioning style for dom elements in a webpage instead of just using css.
23:37.13airtonixhe uses javascript no less...
23:37.38airtonixwhy do people keep using javascript for positioning and animations... stop it.
23:38.01Jamashew
23:38.05airtonixi mean unless your computations take place on the gpu... just use css
23:38.14airtonixd3, webgl etc
23:38.28airtonixhttp://blog.vjeux.com/2011/javascript/wow-interface-anchor-positioning.html
23:38.32airtonixinb4 old
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23:48.05Jamashreinventing the square wheel imo
23:51.28Arrowmasterhad to dig out my AS, it only has a month and year on it, no date
23:51.30kd3oof. a 700MB patch?
23:54.43Arrowmasteri should better organize my stack of degrees and certifications, when i need one i just get the stack of envelopes from the bookshelf

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