| 00:01.34 | Dagmar | Some want three now. Primarily (possibly _only_) Intel boards, but you should be able to tell from looking at the board |
| 00:01.36 | Ackis | I had my wife pick up a mb, cpu and ram and the guy sold her a single 4 gig |
| 00:01.45 | Dagmar | If there's six sockets, it'll probably be wanting three |
| 00:02.04 | Dagmar | Some Intel chipsets are snooty about it. AMD chipsets, not so picky |
| 00:02.14 | Dagmar | If it'll run on 1 stick then it'll be running in single-channel mode is all |
| 00:02.30 | Dagmar | You're not likely to care unless you're doing large memory operations like running a database or zoning in WoW |
| 00:03.05 | Ackis | it's for a media server |
| 00:03.15 | Dagmar | Yeah completely not going to matter much |
| 00:03.24 | Ackis | asus M5A78L-M/USB3 |
| 00:03.32 | Ackis | looking through the manual didn't really indicate much |
| 00:03.40 | Ackis | and google fu failed me |
| 00:04.35 | Dagmar | I |
| 00:04.39 | Dagmar | I'm looking at the manual now |
| 00:05.13 | Dagmar | I doubt they'd list 1-channel configurations on the memory compatibility list unless it was happy with single-channel |
| 00:05.42 | Ackis | try and see then.... worst case scenario is I get another 4 gig stick |
| 00:05.52 | Dagmar | If you have like a shitload of mp3s you're going to wrangle with something driven by MySQL it might be zippier later with a second 4Gb stick |
| 00:06.09 | Dagmar | I'm pretty sure it'll work with just the one stick from what I'm looking at |
| 00:06.12 | Dagmar | I just went to ASUS's site |
| 00:06.23 | Dagmar | http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M5A78LMUSB3/HelpDesk_QVL/ |
| 00:08.20 | Dagmar | In general I approve of ASUS except their warranty people |
| 00:08.44 | Dagmar | I'm still kinda pissed about my netbook spending it's first year being mailed back and forth across the country |
| 00:09.36 | Dagmar | THe third time it had *finally* been jostled enough it was painfully obvious there was a chip desoldering or the motherboard was cracked |
| 00:09.58 | Ackis | I've heard bad things about their warranties |
| 00:10.02 | Dagmar | The first time I sent them six pages of diagnostics, front and back |
| 00:10.13 | Dagmar | They literally went "LOL REFLASHED BIOS. SHIPPED BACK TO CUSTOMER." |
| 00:10.42 | Dagmar | The second time they replaced the RAM, and put in a 2Gb stick instead of the 1Gb. *shrug* |
| 00:11.09 | Dagmar | The third time I just wrote in crayon to piss them off. |
| 00:11.35 | Dagmar | One page. "COMPUTER IZ BAD. PUSH RED DOT AFTER U TURN ON" and stick a large red sticker in the middle of the keyboard |
| 00:11.59 | Dagmar | ...cuz at that point it would spontaneously reboot if you just pushed down on the keyboard a bit. |
| 00:12.32 | Dagmar | I was kind of furious by then. |
| 00:12.55 | Dagmar | Anyone who wasn't an idiot should have looked at those six pages of notes and said "Oh, yeap. The motherboard is fucked." |
| 00:13.12 | Dagmar | I'd run memtest and load checks using four different versions of the BIOS |
| 00:13.39 | Dagmar | They actually reflashed it with the third one I'd used |
| 00:13.54 | Wobin | Ackis: In general, RAM is so cheap nowadays, your 'worst case' is pretty trivial =) |
| 00:13.58 | Dagmar | If I ever send them another thing I'm replacing the boot logo with great big letters "FUCKING FIX ME" |
| 00:14.32 | Primer | my last (and only) Asus was a lemon |
| 00:14.42 | Primer | I had it RMA'd, the replacement board didn't even work |
| 00:14.56 | Primer | I ended up buying a Gigabyte and it's been rock solid |
| 00:14.57 | Dagmar | Nail polish |
| 00:15.17 | Dagmar | When you send back something to be replaced, put a dot of nail polish on it somewhere. |
| 00:15.31 | Dagmar | A small dot, preferably a lurid color |
| 00:16.16 | Dagmar | Some of these companies have testers who are lazy dicks and just not even bother to test the thing, mark something pointless on their end, and ship it back |
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| 00:17.43 | Dagmar | Nikondork: Someone didn't really want children that would survive to go to college |
| 00:17.45 | Dagmar | @#$@$ |
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| 00:27.52 | phelps | tmp:SetScript("OnMouseUp", OnMouseUp) |
| 00:28.06 | phelps | would that not work on a basic CreateFrame('Frame') |
| 00:28.47 | phelps | its not working for me :/ |
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| 00:30.49 | VIad | you have to register mouse clicks with the frame |
| 00:31.59 | Semlar | well, enable the mouse |
| 00:32.34 | Semlar | registering for clicks is separate |
| 00:33.41 | VIad | yeah |
| 00:33.48 | VIad | you have to enable the frame for mouse handling first :) |
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| 00:34.04 | VIad | registering for clicks is another step if the pervious one wasnt enough |
| 00:34.09 | Semlar | f:EnableMouse(true) f:SetScript('OnMouseUp', function() end) |
| 00:34.45 | Semlar | you have to register for clicks if you're doing OnClick handling but i don't think regular frames even have that script |
| 00:34.57 | Semlar | it's a button thing |
| 00:35.24 | VIad | wowpedia has a good overview over the widget relations :) |
| 00:35.34 | VIad | wowprogramming* |
| 00:42.27 | Shirik | slaps Primer |
| 00:44.16 | Primer | Dagmar: yeah, I know enough to put some sort of identifying mark on it |
| 00:44.57 | Primer | the old board at least booted. The updated one didn't do anything |
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| 00:59.23 | VIad | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lZlQNsbmeE |
| 01:03.25 | kd3 | oof. 3fps on ordos |
| 01:14.51 | relaxok | anybody know anything about blp files where the 0x09 header byte is 72? (known as AlphaDepth usually) |
| 01:15.07 | relaxok | seems like its something hwere one nibble is alpha bits per pixel and the other is something else |
| 01:15.37 | relaxok | i'm seeing it when the image is supposedly DXT5 compressed, which shouldn't have any further options/flags so i dont know what it could mean |
| 01:15.53 | relaxok | one example is Interface\Glues\Models\UI_SCOURGE\SILVERPINETREE01CANOPYSKIN.BLP |
| 01:16.08 | relaxok | with WoD data at least, maybe MoP too |
| 01:16.17 | relaxok | long ago it was a 4-bit alpha pallettized |
| 01:16.42 | relaxok | uncompressed |
| 01:17.37 | VIad | how did you get the files extracted, relaxok? |
| 01:19.24 | relaxok | CASOpenFile/CasReadFile |
| 01:19.52 | VIad | too new to the new format so no clue what those are - console commands? |
| 01:19.56 | VIad | doubt it - |
| 01:20.05 | VIad | what tool are you using? :) |
| 01:20.06 | relaxok | they're functions in the client |
| 01:20.11 | VIad | ah |
| 01:20.36 | VIad | gonna be great when a proper tool like the mpqeditor is created for the new format :) |
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| 01:59.48 | Semlar | VIad: there probably already is one, they've been using that format for other games |
| 02:01.45 | kd3 | just hots |
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| 03:11.37 | ccox | "now, I can't say that particular OS version is a dog. But I am not the least bit surprised to hear that it is barking, burying bones and chasing the mailman." |
| 03:11.59 | bluspacecow | *barks at ccox* |
| 03:12.04 | bluspacecow | *burys ccox* |
| 03:12.09 | bluspacecow | *chases a parked car* |
| 03:13.56 | bluspacecow | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/04/introducing-steam-gauge-ars-reveals-steams-most-popular-games/ |
| 03:16.45 | ccox | waits to see what bluspacecow does with the car he caught |
| 03:16.59 | bluspacecow | *licks it* |
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| 03:21.42 | Dagmar | I used to know of a dog like that |
| 03:21.47 | Dagmar | I hit the thing twie |
| 03:21.49 | Dagmar | er twice |
| 03:35.17 | Dagmar | It's not my fault some dogs dont' understand they're supposed to chase cars, not intercept them |
| 03:37.27 | Mr_Rabies | my dog probably drives cars |
| 03:37.28 | Mr_Rabies | he's a weirdo |
| 03:37.48 | Mr_Rabies | he def doesn't chase them |
| 03:39.12 | Mr_Rabies | i'm pretty sure he's a dude that got transformed into a dog a few decades ago |
| 03:40.41 | kd3 | huh. ars's steam gauge is neat, if probably flawed |
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| 03:53.37 | Dagmar | San Mateo City Jail? |
| 03:53.40 | Dagmar | wrong channel |
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| 09:04.43 | zenzio | http://tilomitra.com/the-crazy-world-of-code/ |
| 09:08.12 | nevcairiel | thats not the crazy world of code, thats the crazy world of web |
| 09:08.29 | nevcairiel | although 95% of the crazy of web is in frontend tech |
| 09:10.18 | Fisker | way above 140 characters |
| 09:10.25 | Fisker | I don't believe you |
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| 10:00.41 | zenzio | so OpenBSD is stripping down OpenSSL; this could be interesting to see the result of |
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| 10:52.30 | VIad | Tooltip:SetInstanceLockEncountersComplete(index) |
| 10:52.36 | VIad | that seems good :o |
| 11:02.59 | VIad | C_Questline looks good too :o |
| 11:03.53 | VIad | GetClassInfo(ID|Index) |
| 11:05.30 | VIad | finally they seem to be reworking the damn quest system :p |
| 11:05.35 | VIad | the API was getting too old |
| 11:05.52 | nevcairiel | dont expect the new API to be any better, they don't design them for addon authors usually :p |
| 11:06.07 | nevcairiel | its just being changed because the way quests are presented changes |
| 11:07.01 | VIad | yeah |
| 11:07.04 | VIad | DoMasterLootRoll :D |
| 11:07.20 | VIad | flex stuff |
| 11:07.25 | VIad | just hadnt noticed |
| 11:07.42 | VIad | hmm |
| 11:08.01 | VIad | hehe, never knew that the CreateFrame arg5 is the ID :P |
| 11:08.11 | VIad | so no need to SetID after creating it, if you just enter it there |
| 11:08.26 | VIad | from the exe: CreateFrame("frameType" [, "name"] [, parent] [, "template"] [, id]) |
| 11:08.39 | VIad | unlike from wowprogramming where id is omitted |
| 11:08.53 | nevcairiel | might have been added later |
| 11:09.01 | VIad | yeah |
| 11:09.19 | VIad | C_Timer :) |
| 11:09.25 | VIad | C_Vignettes not sure what a vignette is |
| 11:09.31 | VIad | C_LFGList |
| 11:09.40 | nevcairiel | you dont need to quote all the diff for us, we can read |
| 11:09.49 | nevcairiel | plus, you're like, late |
| 11:10.14 | VIad | I know |
| 11:11.35 | VIad | do you think ladik will make a new editor? |
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| 11:33.20 | karl_w_w | so dishwashers use less water and are more hygienic than hand washing |
| 11:33.37 | karl_w_w | AND you don't get wrinkly fingers |
| 11:38.03 | karl_w_w | i wonder if they use less power as well, that'd probably be the biggest hurdle |
| 12:18.40 | nevcairiel | that depends how your usual washing water is heated up i guess |
| 12:19.06 | nevcairiel | but the drying step probably uses much power as well |
| 12:23.58 | karl_w_w | drying step? you mean when you crack the door and wait for science to work its magic? |
| 12:24.37 | nevcairiel | your dishwasher doesn't dry the dishes? |
| 12:24.54 | karl_w_w | no, it's a dishwasher only :P |
| 12:25.05 | nevcairiel | thats kinda implied when you buy one here |
| 12:25.18 | nevcairiel | never seen one that didn't |
| 12:25.29 | karl_w_w | interesting |
| 12:25.43 | karl_w_w | we've never needed them clean that urgently :P |
| 12:25.58 | Semlar | mine is like 30 years old and dries the dishes |
| 12:26.12 | nevcairiel | it runs for like 90 minutes on its "normal" mode, and after that the dishes are clean and dry, and still hot from the drying :p |
| 12:27.35 | karl_w_w | funny thing is our has a 30 minute quick wash and if you open it right after (while they're still hot) they'll dry in an hour :P |
| 12:28.06 | nevcairiel | i have a quick mode as well, but i dont think i ever used it |
| 12:28.11 | nevcairiel | its less efficient |
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| 12:29.13 | nevcairiel | i also have a "eco" mode, which runs for like an extra hour at less temperature, trying to be more energy efficient or something |
| 12:30.29 | karl_w_w | our has regular eco, quick 30, regular plus (no idea what that means), pots, and rinse & hold (no idea there either) |
| 12:30.35 | karl_w_w | ours |
| 12:30.42 | karl_w_w | there is an s in ours karl |
| 12:31.49 | karl_w_w | we use 90% regular eco which takes a couple of hours, never measured exactly how long |
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| 12:51.13 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:51.37 | Lopeppeppy | Oh no Fisker, be nice to me. I'm kind of having a sad day. |
| 12:51.46 | Fisker | :( |
| 12:51.50 | Fisker | It's free food though |
| 12:53.48 | Fisker | pets Lopeppeppy "there there" |
| 12:54.54 | Lopeppeppy | I know, but I don't know if it's kosher. |
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| 13:38.51 | Fisker | I don't even know what kosher is so I can't guarantee it :( |
| 13:40.26 | Lopeppeppy | Kosher, Jewish religious food observations. |
| 13:41.37 | Fisker | Yeah I know that |
| 13:41.50 | Lopeppeppy | Then why did you say you didn't? *poke* |
| 13:42.12 | Fisker | :( |
| 13:42.32 | Fisker | I mean I don't know what type of food is considered kosher |
| 13:42.41 | Fisker | I think I know something about pigmeat not being kosher |
| 13:42.43 | Fisker | or something |
| 13:42.46 | Fisker | But that's only from tv |
| 13:55.54 | Lopeppeppy | There are lists of foods that are and are not, and how they are prepared matters, etc. |
| 13:56.12 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 13:58.08 | jleclanche | "And why is Google and even fucking battle.net offering 2-step authentication and my bank still doesn't?! My god damn Diablo 3 character is more secure than my life savings." |
| 13:58.16 | jleclanche | Because your d3 account is worth more than what's in your bank |
| 13:58.18 | jleclanche | OOOOOH. |
| 14:00.04 | nevcairiel | any transactions from bank accounts should at least be 2-step protected, even if you can get to the information with only one step |
| 14:04.32 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: http://gifsound.com/?gif=i.imgur.com/lz7hOlC.jpg&v=MK0z3LS45xU&s=4 |
| 14:07.05 | Dagmar | I thought it was obvious. Banks don't have to try to attract customers. |
| 14:07.46 | Dagmar | Anytime they get robbed, they can just pass the loss onto the customers in the form of additional fees, so why should they waste time trying? |
| 14:08.13 | Fisker | That's how every business works |
| 14:08.59 | Dagmar | Yet unlike other businesses, if you don't do business with a bank, and the cops find you with a lot of cash, they'll say you were going to buy drugs with it and take it from you |
| 14:09.36 | Fisker | Police told me i would drunk drive with the car I was sleeping in :( |
| 14:09.49 | Dagmar | Next time put hte ignition key in the trunk |
| 14:10.31 | Fisker | I put myself in the trunk |
| 14:10.45 | Dagmar | I got that shit dismissed in night court |
| 14:12.01 | Dagmar | Cops in the uS will occasionally pull that deranged interpretation of "operation of the motor vehicle while impaired" shit. |
| 14:12.41 | Dagmar | It doesn't work so well if you can't "operate" the vehicle because you don't have the ignition key |
| 14:13.54 | Lopeppeppy | Sitting in it isn't fucking operating it. Am I operating the bus because I'm sitting in a seat? No. |
| 14:16.49 | Dagmar | Ah but the argument is that you have the keys so you could do so at any time |
| 14:16.59 | Dagmar | Nevermind that it's some kind of deranged pre-crime arrest |
| 14:17.32 | Dagmar | Night court judges will throw shit right out if you've locked your ignition key in the trunk. |
| 14:18.03 | Dagmar | THey know that's a step away from declaring someone was driving while armed because they were transporting a weapon in the trunk |
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| 14:27.02 | Fisker | so if I make like a trunk mounted minigun thing that pops out, I'm good? |
| 14:51.48 | Dagmar | Seems reasonable to me |
| 14:51.58 | Fisker | :) |
| 15:03.42 | zenzelezz | it fascinates me when a game changes (some of the) core sounds without mentioning it in the patch notes. World of Tanks suddenly has some new explosion and gun shot sounds |
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| 15:04.52 | zenzelezz | while "we returned the volume of engine sounds" is in the notes |
| 15:05.14 | Unkle | Station. |
| 15:06.03 | zenzelezz | that too |
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| 15:22.36 | Unkle | http://www.gucomics.com/comic/?cdate=20140414 - read the 'blog post' beneath the comic. |
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| 15:59.06 | Lopeppeppy | Unkle - 10 years ago. *giggle* |
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| 16:15.27 | Lopeppeppy | PS, make me some cookies. http://americanheritagecooking.com/2014/04/quadruple-chocolate-pudding-cookies/ |
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| 16:21.03 | zenzelezz | i made you a cookie but i eated it |
| 16:23.55 | jleclanche | i made you a cookie but it turned out awful |
| 16:24.05 | jleclanche | I should learn to bake. |
| 16:24.46 | zenzelezz | i made you a cookie but it was blocked by your browser |
| 16:26.24 | Neffi | https://i.imgur.com/5oY2UD1.jpg HL3 confirmed |
| 16:27.10 | jleclanche | I made you a cookie. you'll get it when hl3 comes out |
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| 16:28.13 | Shirik | fuck you Neffi |
| 16:28.33 | Shirik | oh |
| 16:28.43 | Shirik | surprisingly there hasn't been any HL3 vandalism on the Parsifal page yet |
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| 16:30.43 | Neffi | :( |
| 16:30.52 | Neffi | where's all the love Shirik? |
| 16:30.54 | Neffi | so hostile |
| 16:30.56 | Neffi | cries |
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| 16:48.25 | Sintacks | slaps Neffi around a bit with a large trout | 4,869 tributes to Monty Python |
| 16:48.44 | Sintacks | vandals parsifal page |
| 16:48.57 | Sintacks | throws cookies at Lopeppeppy |
| 16:49.01 | Sintacks | throws kittens at Cairenn |
| 16:51.48 | Shirik | yay |
| 16:51.55 | Shirik | sent an angry email to IT today |
| 16:52.17 | nevcairiel | what did they ever do to you |
| 16:52.24 | Lopeppeppy | kittens and cookies are good. |
| 16:52.27 | Shirik | they "taught" people how to check to see if a site is still vulnerable to heartbleed |
| 16:52.29 | Shirik | by checking the "valid from" section on a certificate |
| 16:52.38 | Shirik | except that a lot of CAs are not updating that part of a certificate |
| 16:52.48 | Shirik | which will just result in people going "OMG FACEBOOK AND WIKIPEDIA ARE STILL VULNERABLE" |
| 16:54.12 | nevcairiel | why do you care what the morons in this world think |
| 16:54.40 | Shirik | because |
| 16:54.40 | Shirik | I want IT to actually do their job |
| 16:54.41 | Shirik | instead of acting like they know how to do their job |
| 16:55.45 | Fisker | hands Lopeppeppy some cookies and some kitten |
| 17:02.43 | Dagmar | Shirik: You should probably nastygram the CAs as well |
| 17:03.02 | Dagmar | Shirik: It's fucking stupid for them to issue a cert that's valid for some substantial amount of time _in the past_ |
| 17:03.45 | Dagmar | I already bitched at GeoTrust for being so lazy as to do it to us with the one cert we needed reissuing |
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| 17:09.48 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: that's for people in, what is it... Ethiopia? Which live in the past |
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| 17:59.43 | Jamash | So I'm browsing Craigslist and I see a post in WSM looking for someone to help teach her how to play Hunter. Either fate is smiling upon me or fate is preparing to kick me in the nuts. |
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| 18:19.25 | Fisker | hey Lopeppeppy http://i.imgur.com/6XoTtkU.gif |
| 18:19.38 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, darkwing. |
| 18:20.31 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 18:20.41 | Arrowmaster | jleclanche: debian is doing 5 year LTS now, https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2014/msg00082.html |
| 18:22.09 | Fisker | wait |
| 18:22.31 | Fisker | Doesn't it usually take longer for a new version of Debian to come out? |
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| 19:12.39 | Primer | Arrowmaster: that's both good news and bad |
| 19:13.24 | Arrowmaster | why? |
| 19:13.29 | Primer | Arrowmaster: All my production systems are still on squeeze, but I always use the EOL as an excuse for me taking time to upgrade the distro. It takes time because we have a bunch of custom packages |
| 19:14.48 | Arrowmaster | not all packages will get security support so you can still say you need to migrate before the old EOL |
| 19:17.39 | Primer | fact is, I don't even have a plan for upgrading yet |
| 19:17.46 | Primer | since I haven't been allocated the time |
| 19:18.00 | Primer | last time on Lenny we upgraded several months after EOL |
| 19:18.22 | Primer | the problem is I wear too many hats |
| 19:27.38 | Neffi | https://imgur.com/gallery/fwweT heh |
| 19:29.03 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: i suppose thats good news. LTS is the main reason people pick ubuntu over debian right? |
| 19:29.38 | Arrowmaster | its the main reason bosses force the use of ubuntu over debian i would say |
| 19:29.56 | jleclanche | well yeah |
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| 19:49.03 | Ackis | ha ha ha you can't hit hte broad side of a barn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barn_%28unit%29 I now have new meaning for that statement |
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| 20:58.37 | Torhal | hits Ackis with the broad side of SharePoint. |
| 21:01.51 | zenzelezz | now that's just cruel |
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| 21:49.01 | Unkle | Sharepoint in all forms is cruelty. |
| 21:50.20 | Torhal | Unkle: I _could_ have said FrontPage '98 |
| 21:51.02 | Dagmar | Fuck you, man. |
| 21:51.12 | Torhal | >.> |
| 21:52.53 | Kalroth | running on a team foundation syncronization setup |
| 21:56.03 | Unkle | Torhal: Oddly enough, I knew one of the original programmers of FrontPage. |
| 21:56.23 | Torhal | Knew? |
| 21:56.45 | Kalroth | he was taken out |
| 21:56.56 | Unkle | But I didn't know what he was working on until he announced the sale to MSFT and his retirement all in one fell swoop. And I say "knew" because I haven't heard from him since then. |
| 21:57.48 | Torhal | Aaah |
| 21:58.33 | Dagmar | Witness protection is a bitch like that |
| 21:59.09 | Unkle | Cue theme from "In Plain Sight" here. |
| 21:59.14 | Kalroth | "If you'll just sign here, sir. The transfer will be complete and two US Marshall's will come to pick you and your family up." |
| 21:59.32 | Kalroth | "No sir, you don't have to bring your mother in law." |
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| 22:55.20 | pompy | ohhh woww... http://kotaku.com/halos-composer-fired-without-cause-1563698238 |
| 23:15.53 | Primer | surely there was a cause |
| 23:16.15 | Dagmar | Yes. |
| 23:16.27 | Dagmar | The cause is 'music licencing cross-promotion agreements'. |
| 23:16.42 | Dagmar | The next Halo will have radio stations featuring Taylor Swift, Justin Beiber, and Skrillex |
| 23:17.58 | Dagmar | ...possibly with 1Direction doing the main opening theme. |
| 23:18.04 | Dagmar | Won't it be glorious? |
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| 23:52.39 | Neffiweb | Shirik: still have that link to the really terrible flight simulator review? |
| 23:52.48 | Shirik | yes! |
| 23:53.02 | Shirik | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCPjn4EAnCg&t=2m40s |
| 23:55.33 | Shirik | also http://undergroundmgzn.com/2014/04/15/man-ruins-game-thrones-series-novels-full-spoilers/?utm_content=buffer55768&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer |
| 23:56.56 | Neffiweb | thanks :D |
