| 00:09.47 | fewyn | they said they are going to try to convert existing data as best as they can |
| 00:11.02 | Sintacks | Primer, same. |
| 00:11.08 | Sintacks | and i prob will just redownload anyway |
| 00:20.34 | pompy | "Client Hotfixing—CASC allows us to be able to hotfix client game data, similar to server hotfixes, giving us the ability to address client-side issues that would normally require a patch." |
| 00:20.36 | pompy | oh hey |
| 00:22.37 | Sintacks | that bit is pretty cool |
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| 00:28.17 | kd3 | wow: http://www.nrk.no/viten/skydiver-nearly-struck-by-meteorite-1.11646757 |
| 00:28.27 | kd3 | also, it's 90 seconds from something else warlords-related |
| 00:31.35 | fewyn | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/13423478 |
| 00:31.48 | kd3 | holy crap, how do I format this? |
| 00:32.27 | fewyn | build a html to bbcode converter? |
| 00:32.31 | fewyn | or html to whatever |
| 00:40.05 | Semlar | formats kd3 |
| 00:40.26 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:40.29 | kd3 | wowch |
| 00:46.41 | karl_w_w | "Alter Time now lasts for 15 seconds (up from 6 seconds), has a 90 second cooldown (down from 3 minutes), and no longer affects the casting Mage’s mana, buffs, or debuffs." In other words, it's now fucking useless |
| 00:50.40 | karl_w_w | ok im convinced no developers play mage |
| 00:50.47 | fewyn | Undead can no breath underwater indefinitely. |
| 00:50.48 | fewyn | :( |
| 00:53.44 | Dashkal | It's kind of awesome seeing the attitude change in Blizzard. BC was NDA city. Now? Screw it, here's everything. |
| 00:53.57 | kd3 | things have changed in... 8 years? |
| 00:54.07 | Dashkal | Very much for the better :) |
| 01:09.29 | Shirik | o.o |
| 01:09.32 | Shirik | received a UPS package today |
| 01:09.35 | Shirik | correct address, wrong name |
| 01:09.43 | Shirik | I don't even know what to do with this |
| 01:09.50 | kd3 | previous resident? |
| 01:10.23 | karl_w_w | :( |
| 01:10.49 | karl_w_w | you're getting packages you didn't order and the one I did order is taking forever to get here! |
| 01:10.59 | Shirik | kd3 I think so |
| 01:11.06 | Shirik | granted, he hasn't lived here for literally 3 years |
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| 01:22.51 | TC-Work | Shirik: Return to sender |
| 01:23.00 | TC-Work | Also I will try to play tonight |
| 01:23.02 | karl_w_w | address unknown |
| 01:23.06 | karl_w_w | no such number |
| 01:23.09 | karl_w_w | no such zone |
| 01:23.12 | TC-Work | ~lart karl_w_w |
| 01:23.12 | purl | beats karl_w_w senseless with a 50lb Unix manual |
| 01:23.19 | TC-Work | I thought it was no such phone |
| 01:23.32 | karl_w_w | perhaps, I'm not good with lyrics |
| 01:23.36 | TC-Work | but zone would make more sense |
| 01:23.41 | Kraps | should i buy the d3 expac |
| 01:23.55 | TC-Work | Subjective |
| 01:24.06 | TC-Work | I am happy with my purchase |
| 01:24.10 | kd3 | yes, kraps, it's the d3 that always should've been |
| 01:24.30 | Kraps | holy shit tc is happy |
| 01:24.41 | Kraps | no time to waste |
| 01:24.41 | TC-Work | No, not happy |
| 01:24.58 | TC-Work | Happy with my purchase != happy |
| 01:25.05 | Kraps | well yeah |
| 01:25.10 | Kraps | obviously |
| 01:25.22 | TC-Work | Yet that is what you said |
| 01:25.38 | TC-Work | grrr, where teh fu is wobin |
| 01:26.56 | kd3 | oh wow. symbiosis got yanked |
| 01:28.47 | Shirik | TC-Work: wasn't really sure how |
| 01:28.58 | Shirik | called the shipper they're going to come pick it up |
| 01:32.05 | Kraps | 25 GB wtf |
| 01:34.53 | karl_w_w | 25 gigglebytes of what? |
| 01:35.26 | Kraps | of diablo 3 |
| 01:38.29 | karl_w_w | ah |
| 01:38.52 | karl_w_w | "Swipe (Bear Form) has been removed" wasnt aoe tanking for druids already almost impossible? |
| 01:39.24 | Neffi_ | wait wtf |
| 01:39.32 | Neffi_ | why even? |
| 01:40.17 | TC-Work | Why not? |
| 01:40.42 | Neffi_ | karl_w_w's comment was a good "why not" |
| 01:41.02 | Neffi_ | Also it makes farming/leveling more manageable |
| 01:41.31 | Neffi | ident |
| 01:42.28 | TC-Work | shakes his head at Neffi |
| 01:43.01 | pompy | Healing Potions no longer share a cooldown with other potions, but instead share a 60-second cooldown with Healthstones. The cooldown will not reset until the player leaves combat. |
| 01:43.03 | pompy | :O |
| 01:43.45 | Arrowmaster | one pot per combat? lol |
| 01:43.52 | pompy | ahaha wtf |
| 01:44.00 | kd3 | it's been one pot per combat forever |
| 01:44.08 | Arrowmaster | wow |
| 01:44.22 | karl_w_w | that is the dumbest idea ever |
| 01:44.26 | kd3 | it looks like we get a throughput pot (+intellect/agility/strength) and a health pot or a healthstone now |
| 01:44.43 | karl_w_w | "have a warlock or spend a bunch of gold" great idea |
| 01:45.11 | Shirik | gone are the days of "ok do we have a warlock, do we have a shaman, do we have a mage" |
| 01:45.14 | Arrowmaster | i dont miss the days of being told to farm tubbers which i rarely ever did |
| 01:45.14 | karl_w_w | I can't think of any reason to change that |
| 01:45.16 | Shirik | the mage is just for the table, obviously |
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| 01:45.35 | Dagmar | Hey at least it's not for the teleports |
| 01:45.45 | kd3 | portal roulette, whee! |
| 01:45.54 | Shirik | omg screw that |
| 01:46.12 | Dagmar | Roulette? No... I just sent people to Fear. |
| 01:46.16 | Dagmar | :) |
| 01:47.11 | Arrowmaster | i never had a problem with portal roulette because i could always click on the one i wanted |
| 01:47.27 | karl_w_w | "Divine Star now has a 1.5-second cast time (up from instant cast)." HAHAHAH |
| 01:48.01 | karl_w_w | "Guys guys, stand exactly where you are for 1.5 seconds, I'm casting divine star and I don't want it to miss!" |
| 01:48.30 | Shirik | "but I'm standing in the fire!" |
| 01:48.41 | Shirik | "it's ok, but only this time!" |
| 01:49.46 | pompy | http://wowhead.com/user=BlizzardCS didnt know they made an acct on wowhead heh. |
| 01:50.01 | karl_w_w | already nobody uses divine star, I don't think that change will help |
| 01:50.39 | karl_w_w | pompy, if they didn't somebody else would |
| 01:51.46 | Neffi | "Stoneform now also removes magic and curse effects in addition to poison, disease, and bleed effects, along with reducing damage taken by 10% for 8 seconds. It remains unusable while the Dwarf is under the effects of crowd control." |
| 01:51.50 | Neffi | the return of the dwarf rogue |
| 01:52.12 | Dagmar | I'll take it |
| 01:52.22 | kd3 | gah, I've been at it for almost 90 minutes and I'm only halfway through formatting the patch notes for the wiki >.< |
| 01:52.26 | Dagmar | It was fairly useless after the last round of nerfs |
| 01:52.52 | Dagmar | "Makes you slightly less colorful and increases your armor by 5." |
| 01:53.33 | Dagmar | If it incremented an achievement counter for "wasted cooldowns" I would not have even blinked. |
| 01:56.53 | Neffi | Evocation is now available only to Arcane Mages. <- I liked the glyph :\ |
| 01:57.17 | kd3 | yah, I'm disappointed by that |
| 01:57.40 | Neffi | I'm disappointed by a few things |
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| 01:58.24 | Neffi | Swipe (Bear), Mangle (Cat), pretty much everything under the Hunter header |
| 01:58.52 | Neffi | "Removed all Disarms." <- I dont like this, but meh |
| 01:59.41 | Neffi | With the melee/caster dichotomy, it was nice to be able to specifically disable one type of thing when there was countering involved |
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| 02:35.37 | Kraps | yo why isnt d3 noticing that i bought RoS |
| 02:35.51 | Kraps | is it a separate download? |
| 02:35.54 | kd3 | relog? it took me 30ish min |
| 02:36.04 | kd3 | if you could log in to d3 and play before you purchased it, you're good to go |
| 02:36.42 | kd3 | kill diablo again and you should jump directly into act 5 after the cutscene |
| 02:40.20 | pompy | also if you have the bnet client open all the time, reload it, they enabled chat from within the client today |
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| 02:53.26 | Thunder_Child | Great, now I have yet another IM client open |
| 02:54.59 | Thunder_Child | interesting that the battle.net chat app won't let you go indivisible |
| 02:55.26 | Neffi | you are not prime Thunder_Child, as much as you want to be |
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| 03:01.06 | Thunder_Child | Neffi: Says you. |
| 03:01.54 | Neffi | <_< |
| 03:10.19 | Neffi | :( |
| 03:10.39 | Neffi | Haven't used my IEMs for like 8 months. Just plugged them in and the right speaker is significantly attenuated |
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| 03:12.30 | Kraps | yep definitely an improvement |
| 03:12.57 | Kraps | besides some other level 60 upgrades i got http://d3head.com/item/394111385-fire-walkers |
| 03:13.48 | Kraps | is there a way to remove gems from gear? |
| 03:15.01 | kd3 | in d3? yes, via the jeweler |
| 03:15.05 | Wobin_ | costs a lot though |
| 03:15.08 | kd3 | ^ |
| 03:15.16 | Wobin_ | you can salvage items though |
| 03:15.19 | Wobin_ | and it'll return the gems |
| 03:15.36 | Kraps | oh yeah? |
| 03:15.39 | Kraps | nice |
| 03:15.52 | kd3 | yah. if you don't want the item any more, just salvage it to get the gem back. much faster/cheaper |
| 03:19.17 | Kraps | the 4th artisan is in act 5? |
| 03:19.28 | Wobin_ | yes |
| 03:19.35 | Wobin_ | The Mystic |
| 03:19.43 | kd3 | 3rd. the mystic? yah, you'll get her pretty quickly |
| 03:19.45 | Wobin_ | I haven't found much of a use for her yet =) |
| 03:19.52 | kd3 | same. I don't care enough to xmog |
| 03:20.18 | Wobin | jeez, the gem combos start getting expensive in Act 5 |
| 03:20.27 | Wobin | I can't afford 2k each time =( |
| 03:20.33 | Wobin | er 200k |
| 03:21.19 | kd3 | don't. it's not worth it unless you're gemming a legendary. imperials drop quite often in master |
| 03:32.01 | karl_w_w | fuck it i cant play hearthstone anymore |
| 03:32.26 | karl_w_w | endless fucking warlocks |
| 03:33.58 | pompy | http://money.msn.com/top-stocks/wal-mart-unveils-strange-futuristic-new-truck?ocid=ansmony11 :o |
| 03:41.37 | pompy | http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/02/gmail-snooze/?source=gravity&cps=gravity |
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| 04:16.30 | Trela | Am I actually online? '_' |
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| 04:18.20 | kd3 | no. no you're not |
| 04:18.23 | kd3 | bah |
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| 04:18.31 | kd3 | no, no you're not. |
| 04:21.34 | Trela | I can ping some sites, but not all... O_o I can get on IRC. This is just weird. |
| 04:22.26 | Trela | Reddit, Imgur, Google, all the cool sites... down for me. Comcast.net? SURE, check out our crappy portal! |
| 04:22.55 | kd3 | whose dns are you using? |
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| 04:23.44 | Trela | kd3: Tried both Comcast's and 4.2.2.x ranges. |
| 04:24.10 | kd3 | huh. traceroutes? |
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| 04:25.07 | Trela | twiddles while waiting on traceroute. |
| 04:25.11 | Dagmar | Well, it wouldn't be the first time Comcast cocked up their DNS servers, or their BGP routes |
| 04:25.16 | Dagmar | traceroute -n |
| 04:25.23 | kd3 | yup |
| 04:25.25 | bluspacecow | wat do Trela |
| 04:25.34 | bluspacecow | Ya know |
| 04:25.35 | Dagmar | ...or -d if you're using Windows |
| 04:25.35 | kd3 | oh, shit. it's 12:30. I should be in bed. I've got a long drive ahead of me in 8 hours |
| 04:25.36 | Mr_Rabies | Symbiosis has been removed. |
| 04:25.37 | Trela | Heya Blue. |
| 04:25.40 | Mr_Rabies | well, no surprise there |
| 04:25.45 | bluspacecow | i find myself looking at the new BDA chat |
| 04:25.48 | Trela | Sleep well, KD3! |
| 04:25.50 | Mr_Rabies | it was a matter of time, i just expected it to happen during MoP |
| 04:25.54 | Dagmar | DNS lookup sis what makes it hella slow |
| 04:25.57 | bluspacecow | and looking at all the friends that are like “Away for xxx” |
| 04:25.58 | bluspacecow | and am |
| 04:25.59 | bluspacecow | like |
| 04:26.03 | bluspacecow | come back! |
| 04:26.04 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 04:26.10 | Dagmar | ...but if it's any consolation, from here to you is just fine |
| 04:26.41 | Trela | It is like my DNS requests are being blocked for certain sites. |
| 04:26.45 | Dagmar | Trela: What IP are you seeing for imgur.com? |
| 04:27.05 | bluspacecow | use the IP addresses then |
| 04:27.16 | Trela | Dagmar: Don't know, can't ping or look it up to get one. |
| 04:27.22 | bluspacecow | can you dig it ? |
| 04:27.24 | bluspacecow | man? |
| 04:27.30 | Dagmar | What's the IP address of the nameserver you're querying? |
| 04:27.36 | Dagmar | I don't use Comcast's DNS becuase they fuck it up |
| 04:27.43 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:27.45 | Dagmar | I just run my own damn nameserver |
| 04:28.02 | Dagmar | ...and I *am* on Comcast |
| 04:28.04 | Trela | Dagmar: 4.2.2.1 through 4.2.2.3 |
| 04:28.23 | Dagmar | Comcast's shit is broke |
| 04:28.38 | Dagmar | I'm still waiting on dig @4.2.2.1 imgur.com to come back |
| 04:28.57 | Trela | Wait, does Comcast reroute 4.2.2.x's to their own? |
| 04:29.13 | Dagmar | Try reconfigging to use Google's DNS. 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 |
| 04:29.55 | Dagmar | I was under the impresion those _were_ Comcast's DNS servers now |
| 04:30.28 | bluspacecow | yeah I timed out on that dig request too Dagmar |
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| 04:30.41 | Dagmar | If you're not on comcast's network they won't respond to you |
| 04:30.47 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 04:30.54 | bluspacecow | they no rikey me ? |
| 04:31.05 | Dagmar | It could just be level 3 broke their shit tho |
| 04:31.26 | Trela | Yeah, switched, still having the same issues, but I can dig IP address from them. |
| 04:31.32 | Dagmar | I am seeing here that their east coast DNS servers are supposed to be 68.87.64.146, but the 4.2.x.x adresses don't resolve shit right now |
| 04:32.27 | Dagmar | Okay yeah level 3 broke |
| 04:33.08 | Trela | http://www.internetpulse.net/Main.aspx?Exception=1 |
| 04:33.16 | Trela | Funny, I can get to that web site directly. :P |
| 04:33.31 | Dagmar | IF this site works http://pcsupport.about.com/od/tipstricks/a/free-public-dns-servers.htm |
| 04:34.01 | Dagmar | It may be that level3 just finally reconfigured to turn off open resolution because of the damn ddos kiddies |
| 04:34.03 | Trela | Nope, dead, but I can dig the IP address. |
| 04:34.03 | Dagmar | (finally) |
| 04:34.15 | Trela | Open resolution? |
| 04:34.18 | Dagmar | Ah but can you traceroute to the IP? |
| 04:34.33 | Dagmar | Yeah. "Open resolution" being when a nameserver will recursively resolve hostnames for anyone |
| 04:34.57 | Dagmar | That site is load balanced by akamai but resolves to 207.126.123.20 for me |
| 04:35.12 | Trela | I found it here: 207.241.148.80 |
| 04:35.38 | Trela | It "loads", but then redirects to the domain name which of course breaks. |
| 04:36.09 | Dagmar | I can't traceroute to 4.2.2.1 either, which leads me to believe Level 3 NOC operators are having a bad night |
| 04:36.53 | Trela | Well, it eases me that I am not stuck in Comcast's BS proxy for "data cap abusers". |
| 04:38.45 | Trela | This is where I punch OS 10.9's DNS caching. ._. |
| 04:39.10 | bluspacecow | in the throat |
| 04:39.41 | Trela | <OS X> Oh, those old DNS servers are invalid? Let me keep caching even though you changed them. I'm sure it will be useful to you. |
| 04:40.53 | bluspacecow | yeah I’ve been manully restarting mDNSResponder at the same time as flushing the DNS cache on my end |
| 04:41.09 | bluspacecow | it’s a little overkill but *shrug* |
| 04:41.23 | Trela | Thanks for the help! Might be better for me to just use the Google DNS anyway. |
| 04:41.40 | bluspacecow | I was wondering when the conversation was getting to that |
| 04:42.00 | bluspacecow | I thought you had some ISP specific services you needed to stay on their DNS for |
| 04:42.13 | Trela | No, I only wish Comcast's DNS to die in a fire. |
| 04:42.31 | bluspacecow | and not the amazing ability to not resolve DNS queries when needed! |
| 04:42.47 | bluspacecow | wow! such feature! much amaze! so good! |
| 04:43.26 | Trela | ALSO! Go over your data cap? They'll shunt you into DNS "bad customer" hell until you call them! |
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| 04:55.36 | Dagmar | Trela: Yes but they're not subtle about that |
| 04:56.02 | Dagmar | Trela: If you go to their site and login it'll tell you, and if you try to go to a site they _run_ like NBC.com they'll MITM the traffic and put an overlay on the page telling you |
| 04:56.31 | Dagmar | Neither method works very well when you're not using their DNS servers. ;) |
| 04:56.36 | Trela | is just grumpy about having to deal with being in a "test" market for that BS. |
| 04:57.15 | Neffi | stamp on your next bill: "test complete. does not fucking work" |
| 04:57.47 | Trela | No, it works fine to them. People go over, people pay them more. Win! |
| 04:59.38 | Dagmar | what are cgroups? |
| 04:59.41 | Dagmar | @#$@ wrong chan |
| 05:00.04 | Dagmar | Trela: They give you either four or five "grace" months |
| 05:00.26 | Dagmar | I can't remember which. I only saw the stuff because of TESO's epic downloader fail pushing me about 110Gb beyond what I normally use |
| 05:00.36 | Dagmar | So.... I got to 296Gb of 400Gb. |
| 05:00.38 | Dagmar | er 300Gb |
| 05:00.57 | Trela | Three months, but my understanding is that is three months total, forever. Not on a yearly basis. |
| 05:01.02 | Dagmar | Yes. |
| 05:01.17 | Dagmar | They had a rep call me up about it, and I was dick to him becuase he deserved it |
| 05:01.31 | Dagmar | Wanted to talk to me about how I "might" go over the cap in the next four days |
| 05:01.51 | Trela | I pay $120 for the fatest speeds available. 300 GBs per month is not enough. |
| 05:02.01 | Dagmar | I was like, "Dude, I'm pretty certain I have _far_ more accurate and detailed on my network metrics than you could even comprehend." |
| 05:02.18 | Dagmar | Switch to business class. |
| 05:02.23 | Dagmar | Same fuckin' price now |
| 05:02.32 | Trela | ...wat/ |
| 05:02.50 | Dagmar | I'm over here breaking shit down by time of day, which device, what service it was using, the destination based on ASN lookups... |
| 05:03.00 | Dagmar | Trela: They have business class service you can get which is the samn damn price. |
| 05:03.02 | Dagmar | Except no caps. |
| 05:03.12 | Neffi | Then why not get it? |
| 05:03.15 | Dagmar | At least, not until you get WILDLY out of control with it like a friend of mine did |
| 05:03.32 | Dagmar | If you start pushing >500Gb they'll start rate-limiting you |
| 05:03.34 | Dagmar | hehe |
| 05:03.51 | Trela | Yeah, no caps, but priced around $250 a month originally here. I could check into if it has changed here. |
| 05:03.53 | Neffi | 500 GB is wildly out of control? |
| 05:03.54 | Dagmar | He was hitting 800Gb and higher for months before they started taking steps |
| 05:03.55 | Fisker | zomg |
| 05:04.12 | Neffi | I'm pretty sure I've hit several times that before without really trying |
| 05:04.12 | Fisker | windows 7-like start menu is coming back |
| 05:04.13 | Dagmar | Neffi: That's a _lot_ of pornography |
| 05:04.17 | Neffi | Fisker: source |
| 05:04.35 | Neffi | Dagmar: haha. mostly messing around with game installers, while also downloading lots of HD movies |
| 05:04.44 | Fisker | http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/53585-Microsoft-is-listening-The-Start-Menu-will-be-back-indefinitely |
| 05:05.06 | Neffi | If it's actually as good as the Windows 7 start menu, I may just live with the other shit I don't like and upgrade |
| 05:05.15 | Trela | I had three hard drives fail so I kind of had to redownload my entire Steam library. >_>; |
| 05:06.15 | Neffi | I had a month where I didn't want to resize my system partition or install stuff to D:, so every so often I'd uninstall WoW to install another game, play like 1-2 days, and reinstall WoW again |
| 05:06.20 | Neffi | I'm pretty sure I topped several terabytes |
| 05:07.00 | Trela | O_o |
| 05:07.28 | Dagmar | Okay, so you, personally, are the reason my porno stutters then |
| 05:07.33 | Dagmar | Thanks fro that |
| 05:07.35 | Neffi | haha |
| 05:08.00 | Dagmar | Wow only gets you about 34Gb a go |
| 05:08.16 | Neffi | Yeah, this was also a month when I was watching many shows, and movies, all the time |
| 05:08.29 | Dagmar | The TESO installer did that three times plus in one night but it still wasn't more than 150Gb |
| 05:08.39 | Dagmar | THey actually stream better htan you think |
| 05:08.48 | Neffi | Installing a new 15-34 GB game every day, plus constantly downloading decent HD rips of shows and movies, will really put a dent |
| 05:09.34 | Dagmar | Yeah that's basically Wilbur |
| 05:09.51 | Dagmar | He had a few TV show sites RSS feeds going straight into the torrent client |
| 05:10.12 | fewyn | usenet > torrents |
| 05:10.19 | Neffi | Fisker: The right-hand links/menus on Win7 are way better than that still |
| 05:10.30 | Neffi | They really want us to want to use Not Metro, it seems |
| 05:10.42 | Dagmar | If I want to download some videos of a woman having sex with a sheltand pony, I'll go try and watch TV over usenet |
| 05:10.59 | fewyn | i get all my media via usenet |
| 05:11.04 | Neffi | Usenet was awesome until some of the great indexers closed down |
| 05:11.04 | Dagmar | Usenet is kinda also rather inefficient, and too many places are being snooty about it now |
| 05:11.06 | fewyn | its pretty easy to automate |
| 05:11.23 | Neffi | Now it's a pita to find content, so I just let my account rot with a few hundred GB of upload credit still on it |
| 05:11.26 | Dagmar | It was always built for automation |
| 05:11.27 | fewyn | ineffiecient? ig et all my shows within an hour of airing |
| 05:11.29 | Neffi | download, rather |
| 05:11.44 | fewyn | without doing anything |
| 05:12.06 | Dagmar | fewyn: The method of distribution. Pieces that can get lost. Having to explicitly store it even when no one cares. |
| 05:12.33 | fewyn | ah yeah, that happens but that's where par2 comes in for repairs |
| 05:12.38 | Dagmar | it's not ideal for moving bulk data around, but it does work |
| 05:12.40 | fewyn | very rarely do i have issues |
| 05:12.56 | Dagmar | I did use to have a supernews account. |
| 05:13.00 | fewyn | it usually only with older content or weird stuff |
| 05:13.04 | Dagmar | Oh, and I was using it when it was all still _bangpath_ |
| 05:13.08 | fewyn | that i see problems |
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| 05:13.36 | Dagmar | It's mostly automated because practically everyone was doing store+forward |
| 05:13.36 | fewyn | i think www.nzbdrone.com supports torrents now tho for automating |
| 05:13.52 | fewyn | if you still want to stick with torrents that is |
| 05:14.03 | Dagmar | I genuinely only rarely use them |
| 05:14.28 | Dagmar | For one thing, when Comcast dicks around and starts downsampling a channel they advertised as HD, I can call and chew someone's ass |
| 05:14.47 | Dagmar | I yelled at them _often_ about Scifi |
| 05:14.58 | fewyn | almost everything i get is in hd so not many issues on my end |
| 05:15.06 | Dagmar | ...using phrases like "Who the fuck do you think you're talking to, exactly?" |
| 05:15.17 | fewyn | i hate calling the cable company |
| 05:15.24 | bluspacecow | make them cry for their mama Dagmar |
| 05:15.40 | Dagmar | Well, they would do things here like temporarily downsample Syfy to a low-bitrate 720 |
| 05:15.45 | fewyn | they always think you're stupid |
| 05:16.01 | Dagmar | ...and then, yes, try to talk to me like I'm an idiot who thinks the pixels are just blurry sometimes. |
| 05:16.08 | Trela | Comcast sent me a new decryption box for my television. I don't own a television. It came with a letter that basically said "We're this to you without asking and we will starting charging a rental fee in six months." |
| 05:16.16 | Trela | *sending this to |
| 05:16.20 | Dagmar | Trela: LOL |
| 05:16.25 | Dagmar | Trela: It gets worse |
| 05:16.37 | Trela | I only have the basic cable package since it makes the internet cheaper. |
| 05:16.38 | Dagmar | Trela: I have owned this SB5120 modem for a _long_ time |
| 05:16.42 | fewyn | i hope i never get stuck with comcast |
| 05:16.50 | Trela | OH OH! I KNOW! |
| 05:16.58 | Dagmar | This is the fifth time this year they've tried to put an $8 modem rental fee on my bill. |
| 05:17.08 | Trela | Oh, I was going to guess something else. |
| 05:17.35 | Dagmar | I'm just about to call someone in the 'revenue assurance' department up and question their competence |
| 05:17.39 | fewyn | i bought my own modem last year |
| 05:17.45 | fewyn | best thing i ever thought of |
| 05:17.46 | Dagmar | There is _no_ reason for them to be making this mistake repeatedly |
| 05:17.55 | bluspacecow | guessing you have a photo of the receipt & serial number and photo of the serial number of the device |
| 05:18.00 | fewyn | because they wouldn't give us a new non-shitty non-refurbed modem |
| 05:18.00 | bluspacecow | that you send to them regularly |
| 05:18.18 | Dagmar | bluspacecow: See that's where it gets fun. _They_ would have to prove they own it |
| 05:18.30 | Dagmar | It's not branded. I bought it at a CompUSA. |
| 05:18.39 | Dagmar | No wait, a BestBuy. |
| 05:18.57 | Dagmar | Nearly ten years ago |
| 05:19.09 | Dagmar | My serial number is probably a digit or two shorter than the ones tehy have |
| 05:20.08 | Dagmar | not only that, five years ago I had a go 'round with them because they tried to push a new config to it that locked me out of the limited management interface |
| 05:20.13 | Dagmar | That will still be in my file. |
| 05:20.16 | bluspacecow | record a video : proof your internet works. show them serial number of modem. turn off modem. see internets go down. compare it to their serial number |
| 05:20.45 | Dagmar | No I think someone's just written shitty code that's identifying practically every cablemodem as one matchins something in a database they have |
| 05:20.58 | Dagmar | Or they are not doing their jobs at all and just _assuming_ |
| 05:20.58 | bluspacecow | meh |
| 05:21.03 | bluspacecow | not your problem |
| 05:21.16 | Dagmar | Oh but I can certainly make it theirs |
| 05:21.23 | bluspacecow | *evil smile* |
| 05:21.24 | Trela | Dagmar: My privately owned modem shows up in their system as "equipement". |
| 05:21.31 | bluspacecow | ? |
| 05:21.37 | bluspacecow | that exact spelling ? |
| 05:21.42 | Dagmar | French! |
| 05:22.23 | Trela | *equipment |
| 05:22.36 | Dagmar | The whole reason I bought the cablemodem in the first place ie because I am used to monitoring my own end of the network connection with autoamtion tools 24/7 |
| 05:22.43 | Trela | is tired, half naked, and not caring. >_> |
| 05:23.09 | bluspacecow | *starts making ready for Nap* |
| 05:23.14 | bluspacecow | *takes Trela with him* |
| 05:23.23 | Trela | Neeeeeee! |
| 05:23.52 | Dagmar | Heck there's probably still a log of me making rather dire predictions to their CS people about what was going to happen if they didn't either fix sandvine or exempt me from it |
| 05:24.20 | bluspacecow | sandy wha ? sandy crouch ? |
| 05:24.20 | Dagmar | I'd already found a reporter interested |
| 05:24.21 | Dagmar | heh |
| 05:24.38 | Trela | Sandvine? |
| 05:24.56 | Sintacks | slaps bluspacecow around a bit with a large trout | 4,844 tributes to Monty Python |
| 05:25.01 | Dagmar | bluespacecow: They were at one point trying to "control" piracy by running this system called Sandvine that was supposed to only block torrent traffic by sending spoofed RSTs |
| 05:25.14 | Trela | Oh riiiight. |
| 05:25.23 | bluspacecow | soundsbadman.jpg |
| 05:25.29 | Trela | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandvine#Network_Neutrality_Debate |
| 05:25.39 | Dagmar | Except since it was a steaming pile of shit they didn't understand how it worked, what they *got* was a system that would spoof RSTs for _any_ long-lived TCP connection |
| 05:25.59 | bluspacecow | ohgodwhy |
| 05:26.10 | Dagmar | Considering I maintain an IRC session over screen for years at a time, this didn't sit well with me |
| 05:26.39 | Trela | Basically, Comcast will inspect traffic, will throttle, and will find ways to fuck it up. |
| 05:26.45 | Dagmar | Yep |
| 05:27.21 | Trela | Now, Embarq/CenturyLink/CenturyTel, they won't, but they are just incompetent enough to break it on a daily basis. |
| 05:27.50 | Trela | *Calls network operations.* "...What do you mean to accidentally deprovisioned an ENTIRE RACK?" |
| 05:27.56 | Trela | *you |
| 05:28.08 | Dagmar | With just the "usual" network monitoring I've got tho, I could tell them when they enabled various policies, without fail |
| 05:28.18 | Dagmar | This upset them greatly |
| 05:28.48 | Dagmar | ...and not everyone is in a position to have that kind of metrics on _both_ ends of the connection |
| 05:28.57 | Trela | Yep. |
| 05:29.11 | Dagmar | I was working in the Vanderbilt University NOC and we run a freakin' I2 backbone |
| 05:30.15 | Trela | First rule of being an ISP: Don't piss off the people who know what they are doing. |
| 05:30.28 | Dagmar | Exactly. |
| 05:31.27 | Dagmar | Sandvine didn't seem to ever be sending RSTs upstream that I could see, and I could filter them out on my end |
| 05:31.52 | Dagmar | I told them they were either going to fix it, exempt me from it, or I would start telling people how to trivially evade it |
| 05:31.52 | Trela | Second rule: SECURE YOUR SHIT. A sixteen year old should not be able to write a script that constantly resets all the connected cable modems on your network. |
| 05:32.09 | Dagmar | Trela: They didn't restrict MACs when they started doing cablemodems here. |
| 05:32.16 | Dagmar | That was a fun and exciting conversation |
| 05:32.33 | Dagmar | "I would like it if you would reconfigure the headend so that I can *not* mitm all connections in Nashville at will" |
| 05:32.39 | Trela | Ha, so you could get a public IP address for anything on a switch? |
| 05:32.49 | Trela | Ohhh, that bad. |
| 05:33.19 | Dagmar | I could spoof ARP responses and get anyone's traffic like it was all one giant switch |
| 05:33.33 | Dagmar | That was _very_ bad |
| 05:33.41 | Trela | Suscom in PA, their headends were configured poorly and doing simple scans revealed all customers internal IP addresses. So I wrote a script that would connect to them... and click the reset modem button. |
| 05:33.54 | Dagmar | gawd lol |
| 05:35.22 | Trela | They did not like me much. As well, they did not secure their modem configurations at all. The old ethernet + TFTP server on your local machine to get a new configuration would override their own. |
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| 06:04.36 | Mr_Rabies | welp |
| 06:04.42 | Mr_Rabies | just had a little Gravity moment in KSP |
| 06:05.06 | Mr_Rabies | my Kerbal ran out of backpack propellant while trying to make it to safety |
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| 07:21.00 | d[karl]b | http://i.4cdn.org/b/src/1396595927267.jpg |
| 07:21.52 | zenzio | for a moment I thought it was going to be something dirty |
| 07:22.31 | zenzio | but it is interesting how they always seem to suggest having something else with their product, as if the product itself isn't good on its own |
| 07:24.28 | Neffi | i dunno man. a ritz on top of a ritz is pretty good |
| 07:26.16 | pompy | pepp in the middle! lol |
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| 11:01.38 | karl_w_w | is the steam news page broken for anyone else? |
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| 11:27.15 | nevcairiel | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKorP55Aqvg&feature=youtu.be |
| 11:28.51 | nevcairiel | this seems weirdly familiar |
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| 12:54.59 | Fisker | nevcairiel |
| 12:56.52 | nevcairiel | Fisker |
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| 13:24.38 | karl_w_w | http://ios.wonderhowto.com/how-to/put-music-your-iphone-without-using-itunes-0147391/ : this article being necessary = why to never buy an iPhone |
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| 13:37.53 | Fisker | lets hey Shirik |
| 13:41.44 | alestane | I have no idea how to put music on my Android phone at all, but then, I've never tried. |
| 13:50.18 | nevcairiel | connect it with a cable to your pc, it shows up as a drive for you to copy/paste stuff onto, done? |
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| 14:01.40 | Lopeppeppy | greps all the things. |
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| 14:06.47 | Fisker | gropes all the Lopeppeppy's |
| 14:06.50 | Fisker | i mean grep |
| 14:06.55 | Fisker | definitely grep |
| 14:07.00 | Lopeppeppy | Bad monkey. |
| 14:07.02 | Fisker | :( |
| 14:07.12 | Fisker | It was a typo |
| 14:10.03 | Fisker | what are you grepping though Lopeppeppy? |
| 14:10.06 | Fisker | Besides all the things |
| 14:10.40 | Lopeppeppy | I have some imported files that have bad HTML in them. I'm grepping it out and replacing it with good pathogens. |
| 14:10.50 | Fisker | daww |
| 14:12.04 | Lopeppeppy | It's just a long list of "replace X with Y" that I have to work through each time I import garbage. |
| 14:24.44 | karl_w_w | cheer up sleepy jean |
| 14:24.50 | karl_w_w | oh what can it mean |
| 14:25.10 | karl_w_w | to a daydream believer and a homecoming queeeee-eeeee-heeen |
| 14:34.48 | Dagmar | Why not Sed-berg? |
| 14:41.20 | karl_w_w | so tyrande whisperwind is over 1000 years younger than the stormrage brothers |
| 14:41.29 | karl_w_w | yet the 3 of them supposedly grew up together |
| 14:41.54 | karl_w_w | so are the stormrages pedophiles or does it take night elves thousands of years to grow up? |
| 14:43.20 | nevcairiel | how do you figure there is this age difference? |
| 14:43.51 | karl_w_w | in the wc3 manual it says she's 13,800 and they are 15,000 |
| 14:44.13 | nevcairiel | does 1000 years make a big difference if you're already 15000 |
| 14:44.40 | karl_w_w | no, but im talking about when they grew up together |
| 14:44.54 | nevcairiel | maybe their years are like.. shorter |
| 14:45.00 | nevcairiel | and 1000 is like 1 year |
| 14:45.29 | karl_w_w | they live on the same planet :P |
| 14:45.42 | karl_w_w | as humans |
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| 15:22.09 | VIad | "Vengeance has been redesigned and renamed Resolve. Resolve does not increase outgoing damage, but does now increase tank self-healing and absorption based on damage taken." |
| 15:22.35 | VIad | I shmell DK absorbing everything, leaving the healers jobless! :D |
| 15:27.35 | VIad | Symbiosis removed |
| 15:27.49 | VIad | I see their fancy level 90 spell was trashed in only one expansion :p |
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| 15:28.55 | nevcairiel | it was stupid |
| 15:28.59 | VIad | it was |
| 15:36.13 | Kraps | wheres the chat in the bnet launcher |
| 15:36.27 | VIad | should be very visible |
| 15:38.28 | Kraps | oh its for friends |
| 15:39.47 | VIad | yeah |
| 15:39.52 | VIad | you chat with your friends :P |
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| 15:47.50 | bluipodcow | Upper right corner kraps . Little man icon with number by it |
| 15:48.37 | Kraps | yeah |
| 15:50.08 | Kraps | heh, master difficulty is a little too easy on regular mobs but in torment 1 affixed mobs become really hard |
| 15:50.36 | Ressy | Thats the fun part |
| 15:52.49 | Fisker | I didn't want to do it bluipodcow |
| 15:52.58 | Fisker | May Lopeppeppy have mercy on my soul |
| 15:53.06 | bluipodcow | ...... |
| 15:55.00 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe. Tomorrow. |
| 15:55.28 | Kraps | Ressy: its not as fun if you cant stay alive |
| 15:55.57 | Ressy | Don't I know it. T1, doing bounties.. 2 groups jumped me.. I think I died 3 times before they all died |
| 15:57.33 | Torhal | Man up, Ressy! |
| 15:57.36 | Torhal | flees. |
| 15:58.27 | Ressy | You say that to me, and you're the one fleeing. |
| 15:58.52 | Torhal | I didn't want you to thrash me. |
| 16:00.30 | Lopeppeppy | I could thrash you instead. For free. |
| 16:00.40 | Lopeppeppy | I'm having mercy on wallets today. |
| 16:06.51 | Ressy | Also: Dear Canadians.. Hope you got lots of gold on your games. Cdn gov has said they plan on regulating all digital currencies. |
| 16:07.23 | Ressy | psychos that they are.. That includes game currencies |
| 16:08.05 | Torhal | WAT |
| 16:08.22 | Torhal | Imaginary money? |
| 16:08.57 | nevcairiel | who says there is no convulted way to make real money with your wow gold |
| 16:09.12 | nevcairiel | convoluted* |
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| 16:30.43 | Fisker | sorry bluipodcow |
| 16:30.47 | Fisker | But I simply had to murder you |
| 16:45.08 | Shirik | sorry Fisker |
| 16:45.11 | Shirik | I rezzed bluipodcow |
| 16:47.31 | bluipodcow | Yay! |
| 16:48.21 | Fisker | Sorry Shirik I kept you in combat |
| 16:50.23 | bluipodcow | I still ded ? |
| 16:51.54 | Fisker | Yep |
| 16:52.26 | bluipodcow | Kk |
| 16:52.49 | bluipodcow | *lets pants out and grabs the Cheetos* |
| 16:59.36 | Fisker | You're dead |
| 17:00.06 | Lopeppeppy | Where did you drop your pants? |
| 17:01.00 | TC-Work | Around his ankles. |
| 17:06.24 | Torhal | would prefer to not be thrashed at all, even if Lopeppeppy did offer to do it for free. |
| 17:09.41 | Fisker | I dropped my pants earlier |
| 17:13.13 | bluipodcow | So ? |
| 17:13.23 | bluipodcow | I'm dead I can do what I want |
| 17:13.31 | bluipodcow | Except have sex |
| 17:13.34 | bluipodcow | :( |
| 17:15.34 | Lopeppeppy | Zombies can still doooo eeeet. |
| 17:16.26 | VIad | zombies can have sex, they just don't feel like doing it :) |
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| 17:24.35 | Dagmar | Assuming the necessary bits haven't fallen off or cavitated away. |
| 17:26.13 | Dagmar | ...or, taking into account the George Romero theory that zombies tend to gravitate back to what they did when they were alive, at some point we're going to be treated to a scene where survivor stumble across a zombie in front of a dead computer in the basement study having some "private time". |
| 17:26.32 | Dagmar | You may wish to drink some vodka after reading that. |
| 17:27.17 | Neffi | I think I'll need an espresso and a smoke after reading that ;) |
| 17:27.50 | Dagmar | Yeah, it would probably be bad to have that creep back out of the subconcious in a dream. |
| 17:32.20 | alestane | Dagmar, I've already been exposed to the concept of human/forsaken romance novels. |
| 17:32.46 | Arrowmaster | .... |
| 17:32.47 | alestane | I've played through Northrend with a rogue. |
| 17:33.30 | Dagmar | Oh I was just thinking about Rick, Carl, and Michonne clearing a house. |
| 17:33.51 | Dagmar | Would they continue clearing the house or just close the door and try the next one? |
| 17:34.32 | alestane | I presume you referring to some specific zombie series. |
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| 17:34.38 | Dagmar | Pretty sure Michonne and Carl would have a giggle fit, but how about Rick? |
| 17:34.43 | Dagmar | alestane: The Walking Dead, yes |
| 17:34.44 | alestane | assume you're* |
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| 18:05.23 | Shirik | and this is why we don't throw exceptions in destructors, folks http://clang-developers.42468.n3.nabble.com/Bug-Wrong-Exception-Handling-Destructor-not-called-immediately-td4038718.html |
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| 18:19.02 | alestane | Well, generally if you find that part of the object you are tearing down is not valid, you should just, well, not tear that part down, right? |
| 18:21.58 | TC-Work | Tear it down to build it up stronger. |
| 18:22.23 | Shirik | alestane: yes, but it's also skipping another object |
| 18:22.27 | Shirik | the function returns an object |
| 18:22.32 | Shirik | that object also needs to be destroyed |
| 18:24.19 | alestane | Okay... so, function foo is calling funciton bar, and when function bar tries to tear something down and is thrown an exception that it can't catch, foo isn't handling things correctly? I'm not sure I have the brain to figure out if that's actually the problem or not. |
| 18:25.31 | Shirik | so when we called bar(), two temporary Foo objects were created |
| 18:25.43 | Shirik | as soon as bar() returns, it needs to clean those up (the first of which throws an exception) |
| 18:26.03 | Shirik | it correctly cleans up the second, but it fails to clean up the Foo object which was created by bar() |
| 18:26.09 | Shirik | inside |
| 18:26.57 | alestane | That sounds more like a runtime bug. |
| 18:28.22 | Shirik | the compiler is required to emit code that destroys in this order |
| 18:28.59 | Shirik | that being said, the general rule of thumb is "don't throw exceptions from destructors because really weird things happen and it's very unsafe" |
| 18:29.07 | Shirik | but there are ways it's supposed to work, and this is how it should work |
| 18:30.18 | alestane | So it is behaving as intended, but the intended behavior is basically a least bad compromise? |
| 18:31.17 | Shirik | it's not behaving as intended, because the object returned from bar() is never destroyed |
| 18:31.25 | Shirik | this is akin to a compiler-injected memory leak |
| 18:31.38 | Shirik | but yes, the resulting code from a destructor exception IS a bad compromise |
| 18:31.41 | Shirik | but this is not that compromise :) |
| 18:32.12 | alestane | So there is indeed a bug. |
| 18:32.43 | Shirik | yes |
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| 18:47.35 | alestane | Although it's a bug that only really comes out when you do something that's inherently dangerous anyway? |
| 18:56.34 | Shirik | alestane: yup, but the standard says exactly what happens |
| 18:56.43 | Shirik | so even though it's inherently dangerous, the compiler needs to do exactly what the compiler says |
| 18:56.50 | Shirik | it's not undefined, just weird |
| 18:57.15 | Shirik | compiler needs to do exactly what the standard* says |
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| 19:09.01 | TC-Work | No no Shirik, I liked it better the first time |
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| 19:31.42 | pompy | http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/04/04/five-year-old-boy-uncovers-xbox-live-security-flaw lol |
| 19:32.30 | nevcairiel | just gotta keep pressing keys |
| 19:39.16 | pompy | yup |
| 19:44.03 | Dagmar | Not just any keys... the fucking spacebar. |
| 19:44.08 | Dagmar | Who the fuck thought that was a good idea? |
| 19:44.41 | Dagmar | Couldn't they have at least used a keysym that the standard keyboard doesn't even send? |
| 19:45.24 | nevcairiel | you sound like this was intentional :p |
| 19:45.57 | Dagmar | It was either intentional or some incompetence that you could see from space. |
| 19:46.10 | Dagmar | When did input widgets become hard? |
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| 19:46.49 | Dagmar | I can see a fuckup like this maybe being in a beta, but someone should have been doing unit testing specifically for "what happens when we enter no information?" and "what happens when we enter all whitespace?" |
| 19:47.29 | Dagmar | Consider the mayhem that would have ensued if word had gotten out to Reddit about this on say, a Saturday morning. |
| 19:47.57 | Dagmar | It would have rivaled the AOL/ICQ password entry fuckup |
| 19:49.25 | nevcairiel | the issue was only exploitable if you logged in with this account on this particular console before |
| 19:49.59 | Dagmar | Yep. Like no household ever has siblings who use the same xbox |
| 19:50.09 | Dagmar | ...or college dorms |
| 19:50.12 | nevcairiel | point is, reddit couldn't make the world explode :p |
| 19:50.23 | nevcairiel | physical access is quite a limiting factor |
| 19:50.27 | Dagmar | No, but there would have been serious butthurt |
| 19:50.38 | nevcairiel | you can screw over your friends & family, grats :P |
| 19:51.05 | Dagmar | You were an only child, weren't you |
| 19:51.17 | nevcairiel | nope |
| 19:51.24 | Dagmar | Parents were hippies? |
| 19:51.50 | Dagmar | Siblings can have rivalries turn nasty _with a quickness_ and a level of vitriol generally reserved for civil wars |
| 19:52.46 | nevcairiel | some kids would hopefully not even have a credit card hooked up for instant purchases, but if they do, their own damn fault :) |
| 19:53.49 | Dagmar | Oh I'm thinking about things like friends lists harassed. "Confessions" made over HALO, etc etc |
| 19:54.12 | Dagmar | Perhaps even avatars dressed all in pink and rainbows |
| 19:54.35 | nevcairiel | isnt this just for the shop |
| 19:54.45 | Dagmar | Nope. |
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| 19:54.57 | Dagmar | The kid was using it to get onto the console so he could play games. |
| 19:55.38 | nevcairiel | article says he used it to get onto the shop to purchase games |
| 19:56.45 | Ressy | well.. Discovering the bug got him 4 free games. |
| 19:57.31 | Dagmar | http://thehackernews.com/2014/04/5-year-old-boy-discovers-microsoft-xbox.html |
| 19:58.11 | Dagmar | ...but hey, so long as he wasn't exposing himself on multiplayer Uno it's all good. |
| 19:58.21 | Dagmar | I so miss whywasibanned.com |
| 20:06.58 | Arrowmaster | its gone? |
| 20:07.47 | Dagmar | Yes. |
| 20:07.59 | Dagmar | I was really enjoying all that suffering. |
| 20:08.15 | Dagmar | ...and I totally did not make up the bit about exposure and Uno. |
| 20:08.32 | Dagmar | I would never have been able to come up with sommething that insane on my own. |
| 20:11.53 | zenzelezz | Bacardi Ras with Sprite was an interesting mix, more so than I had expected |
| 20:13.42 | Lopeppeppy | ... I need rum. Damn you zenzelezz. |
| 20:16.32 | TC-Work | ~zenzelezz++ |
| 20:17.17 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: I'll share! |
| 20:19.53 | Fisker | Hi Lopeppeppy |
| 20:20.19 | Lopeppeppy | What means "share the rum", dear? |
| 20:20.43 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: http://imgur.com/6pJuqJc - I got enough to last the night |
| 20:22.27 | Fisker | I have no rum |
| 20:22.52 | zenzelezz | sucks to be you |
| 20:23.32 | Kraps | paragon isnt infinite, once you reach paragon level 800 leveling is worthless, what bullshit |
| 20:23.51 | Kraps | returning the game |
| 20:23.53 | zenzelezz | that's not a very paragon attitude |
| 20:24.40 | relaxok | it's weird that at some point people decided if you couldn't play a game forever, it's shitty |
| 20:24.41 | Lopeppeppy | Morgans! You rule. |
| 20:24.50 | relaxok | you used to just win games and be done and people were fine with that |
| 20:25.10 | Fisker | I can make farts |
| 20:25.33 | zenzelezz | that's why you're so superior to the rest of us |
| 20:25.46 | Fisker | Natural selection |
| 20:28.48 | Lopeppeppy | Redheads rule the world, and steal all the rum. :) |
| 20:28.51 | Lopeppeppy | Have a good weekend, guys. |
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| 20:34.06 | TC-Work | zenzelezz: I thought you said you had enough to last the night? |
| 20:34.21 | zenzelezz | I'm lightweight |
| 20:35.49 | zenzelezz | me and my 69 kg don't need much to have an effect |
| 20:36.14 | TC-Work | Just under 11 stone. |
| 20:44.31 | Gnarfoz | who's stoned? |
| 20:46.41 | Dagmar | Maybe as many as 10 people |
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| 21:02.32 | Jamash | so I'm rooting around under the dishwasher trying to figure out why it's not level and I suddenly think to ask if the breaker is still on |
| 21:02.42 | Jamash | and my dad is like oh you'll be fine |
| 21:03.21 | Jamash | I stopped and we turned off the breaker, but I may have nearly gotten electrocuted just now, how's your day been? |
| 21:04.53 | Gnarfoz | does your Dishwasher have random exposed electrical feeds? |
| 21:05.25 | Gnarfoz | or how do you get electrocuted trying to level something |
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| 21:06.37 | kullervo | Jamash: I got hit by about 2kV static shock earlier, it would've stopped my heart if it hit during a pulse or had more amperage! |
| 21:06.54 | kullervo | judged the voltage by the arc's brightness |
| 21:07.13 | Jamash | Gnarfoz: Well there's exposed copper wiring under there, looks like motor windings |
| 21:07.26 | Jamash | kullervo: eek |
| 21:08.31 | Gnarfoz | Jamash: I guess it's an application of the "take the warning labels off and let the problem solve itself" paradigm |
| 21:08.57 | Gnarfoz | (how on earth do they sell a device made for washing things, with water, that has exposed electrical circuits?!) |
| 21:09.19 | Jamash | Gnarfoz: Oh, I have the manual and it says DO NOT EVER WORK ON THIS WHILE IT IS LIVE EVER NO SERIOUSLY |
| 21:09.35 | Gnarfoz | well, at least someone was nice enough for that |
| 21:09.38 | Jamash | Gnarfoz: beats me |
| 21:10.17 | Jamash | I incorrectly assumed that my parents wouldn't be so silly as to tell me to poke around underneath without flipping the breaker off |
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| 21:18.39 | TC-Work | Maybe they don't want you anymore? |
| 21:23.43 | Jamash | then who would back up their laptops? |
| 21:25.10 | TC-Work | A service? |
| 21:25.45 | Torhal | Maybe your original version has returned home, so you're no longer necessary. |
| 21:26.52 | Jamash | I am at home |
| 21:26.57 | Jamash | wait |
| 21:27.29 | Jamash | I suddenly feel like the protagonist in a Philip K. Dick story |
| 22:10.52 | TC-Work | I am sure you are always the antagonist Jamash. |
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| 22:20.56 | Maldivia | ~framexml |
| 22:20.57 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console or open 'World of Warcraft.app' --args -console after game loads press ~ and enter commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml . |
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| 23:24.22 | karl_w_w | so I've burnt toast before, but never actually set fire today, so today is a good day for milestones |
| 23:24.43 | karl_w_w | s/today/to it/ |
| 23:33.21 | zenzelezz | there's something very promising about sitting on the loading screen with "Login queue - approximate wait time 1 sec" for 120 seconds |
| 23:33.51 | zenzelezz | and counting |
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| 23:40.17 | zenzelezz | in other words, fuck you ESO - it's 01:38 EU time, and you're still not letting me in on a 1 sec queue? |
| 23:41.13 | Iriel | Queue? |
| 23:41.26 | Iriel | You’re the second person to mention an ESO queue, i’ve yet to see one |
| 23:41.29 | Iriel | I guess i’m lucky |
| 23:41.34 | zenzelezz | my thoughts exactly |
| 23:42.00 | zenzelezz | after nearly five minutes, after being done with Twitter backlog, I hit "leave queue" and tried again... instantly in |
| 23:42.01 | zenzelezz | GG |
| 23:42.48 | zenzelezz | thankfully I've had plenty of rum, so despite my words I'm all right |
| 23:44.15 | Iriel | hehe |
| 23:44.16 | TC-Work | zenzelezz: you going to pull a capt. sparrow when the run is all gone? |
| 23:44.32 | zenzelezz | most likely |
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