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| 00:01.07 | kd3 | holy crap. a guildie in d3 just looted death's bargain... "Gain an aura of death that deals 834% of your Life per second to enemies within 16 yards. You no longer regenerate Life." |
| 00:01.11 | kd3 | OP much? |
| 00:01.20 | Dagmar | Dayum |
| 00:02.34 | Trela | So, load up on +health and laugh? |
| 00:02.52 | kd3 | that's what everyone in chat is suggesting, yah |
| 00:11.20 | TC-Work | It says regen, which means you want life on hit and life on kill |
| 00:11.27 | Dagmar | Yeeep |
| 00:14.34 | TC-Work | Although after a bit of reading, it may be that it's 1000% of your regen that's dealt as dmg and badly worded |
| 00:17.06 | ZorbaGama | yeah, it could be either "(834% of your Life) per second" or "834% of your (Life per second)" |
| 00:24.06 | Dashkal | mmm, that second one seems downright sane |
| 00:30.30 | alestane | In other words, your regeneration is converted into AoE DPS. |
| 00:32.16 | Neffi | Maybe ask him to run some numbers and see which one it is |
| 00:35.41 | Jamash | Neffi: I saw the Oculus headline and was confused because I thought Polygon wasn't a gaming news satire site |
| 00:35.56 | Jamash | Now I don't know what I think |
| 00:40.17 | Neffi | you motherfucker |
| 00:40.25 | Dagmar | Yes you do. |
| 00:40.47 | Neffi | Avoid Project64 |
| 00:41.03 | Neffi | The bundled adware I forgot to remove seems to be malware |
| 00:41.40 | Neffi | It seems to be eating resources in the background, after hijacking Chrome with extensions, homepage, changing the layout of my taskbar |
| 00:41.51 | Jamash | Dagmar: I do? |
| 00:42.04 | Dagmar | Jamash: Clearly you know you don't know. |
| 00:42.09 | Jamash | Dagmar: Do I? |
| 00:42.17 | Dagmar | Neffi: Forgot to uncheck a box? |
| 00:42.19 | Neffi | Yup, it forked off half a dozen processes, some of which are system-level, and some eating CPU |
| 00:42.21 | Dagmar | Jamash: You said so yourself. |
| 00:42.26 | Jamash | Dagmar: I did? |
| 00:42.35 | Dagmar | <Jamash> Now I don't know what I think |
| 00:42.46 | Neffi | It's a confusing installer. The "Ok/Next" button installs with Adware. The cancel button (which should exit the installer) installs without |
| 00:42.50 | Neffi | It's maliciously misleading |
| 00:42.58 | Jamash | Dagmar: Look, if John Carmack is working for Facebook then clearly this is all a hallucination. |
| 00:43.02 | Dagmar | Neffi: Which is why I'd like to hunt those people for sport. |
| 00:43.14 | Dagmar | Neffi: If that were food the FDA would be cornholing someone right now |
| 00:43.24 | Neffi | I may go ahead and report the site as dangerous when I get a chance. I've gotta run right now |
| 00:43.31 | Dagmar | Neffi: The FTC needs to be given the ability to issue hunting permits. |
| 00:43.48 | Neffi | indeed |
| 00:44.01 | Dagmar | Last month I found one that was incredibly sinister |
| 00:44.12 | Dagmar | It was a search help agent that would reorder and tamper with search results. |
| 00:44.24 | Neffi | I need a damn cigarette now. I'll be back in a bit |
| 00:44.38 | Dagmar | If you attempted to download literally _anything_ you would get sent to sites with bogus malware-added versions of things. |
| 00:44.57 | Dagmar | So, of course it was part of iLivid. |
| 00:45.02 | Dagmar | There' a three-alarm fire waiting to happen. |
| 00:45.02 | Neffi | Yeah, this hijacked Chrome with some search assistant as well |
| 00:45.27 | Neffi | An extension that I can guarantee does that, and hijacked the default search in the omnibox, and the home page |
| 00:46.14 | Dagmar | I have to get over to my parents house next weekend to finish cleaning up the mess |
| 00:46.19 | Dagmar | Among other things, it tampered with the validation system. |
| 00:46.37 | Dagmar | EVerything that is installed says it was published by Microsoft. |
| 00:48.04 | Jamash | https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/ |
| 00:48.54 | Dagmar | Yeah it took me 20 minutes to find the right category |
| 00:49.05 | Jamash | well it is a government website |
| 00:49.15 | Dagmar | Since the FSSecure people went to _jail_ I fill that stuff out |
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| 01:20.55 | Neffi | well, off to reinstall Windows |
| 01:44.50 | relaxok | how can an element have multiple anchors? if you have both a TOPLEFT and BOTTOMRIGHT anchor, what point are you changing the offset from? |
| 01:45.34 | relaxok | or does that stretch the drawing? |
| 01:46.47 | kd3 | if you have top-left and bottom-right, it'll stretch with whatever it's anchored to |
| 01:48.57 | Jamash | warcraft, the musical: http://youtu.be/xOGoDfhP6p8 |
| 01:54.20 | relaxok | kd3: i don't really get it.. i thought anchors just changed where the center of an element was |
| 01:54.44 | relaxok | kd3: what exactly does an anchor do when applying itself to a position and size? |
| 01:56.08 | nebula169 | you can use anchors in lieu of setting height/width for sizing the frame |
| 01:56.57 | kd3 | anchors, well, anchor an element to another at specified points, so if you want an element to get bigger vertically, but not horizontally, you'd anchor top and bottom. if you want it fixed to a set point on the frame, you'd generally just anchor top-left. |
| 01:58.43 | kd3 | if you've done any gui programming in the dot net family or java, anchors work the same way |
| 01:59.35 | relaxok | so it can change the size even if a size is specified? |
| 01:59.37 | relaxok | argh |
| 02:00.14 | kd3 | if you want a fixed size, leave the anchor at center and set the size manually. anchors are what you use for flexible-size widgets |
| 02:08.04 | Shirik | so the GPS guys have marked 3 satellites as unusable on April 1 |
| 02:08.25 | Shirik | Not sure if trolling, but I would totally do that if I worked there. "We have to move these satellites, but April Fools is coming up, so let's wait until then." |
| 02:13.16 | relaxok | kd3: arghhhhh |
| 02:13.25 | relaxok | kd3: really wish this was easier to code. |
| 02:13.46 | kd3 | guis suck. it doesn't matter what language |
| 02:14.13 | Shirik | there was a time you couldn't do it in Lua! |
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| 02:14.41 | Shirik | those were sad times indeed |
| 02:17.13 | relaxok | http://pastie.org/private/fbtfruy1cqvugtgenrv5ug |
| 02:17.17 | relaxok | this was my method but that was assuming one nachor |
| 02:17.19 | relaxok | anchor* |
| 02:17.44 | relaxok | eh ignore line 10, i just put that there temp |
| 02:18.21 | Jamash | mmm, nachos |
| 02:18.21 | Shirik | you have just made me a very happy man |
| 02:18.25 | Shirik | because of line 12 |
| 02:18.48 | relaxok | not using auto? |
| 02:18.57 | Shirik | prefix increment |
| 02:19.04 | relaxok | oh lol |
| 02:19.35 | Jamash | ah yes, the off by one operator |
| 02:19.43 | relaxok | in this case the problematic Frame is MainMenuBarArtFrame |
| 02:19.48 | relaxok | it has TOPLEFT and BOTTOMRIGHT |
| 02:19.55 | relaxok | but no size, like nebula169 suggested |
| 02:20.11 | Shirik | wait I'm confused |
| 02:20.16 | Shirik | why is there a loop there |
| 02:20.34 | relaxok | well i didnt really know how to handle multiple anchors |
| 02:20.43 | relaxok | which is why im talking about it |
| 02:20.52 | Shirik | I just now got back to my computer so |
| 02:21.00 | Shirik | I missed the context of this code |
| 02:21.09 | Shirik | I was just happy it's not the incredibly terrible C++ I'm used to seeing |
| 02:21.28 | relaxok | im parsing FrameXML crap into my own UI drwaing |
| 02:21.30 | relaxok | drawing* |
| 02:21.41 | Jamash | that seems like a terrible idea |
| 02:21.49 | relaxok | not if i'm writing a UI system |
| 02:21.58 | Jamash | that also seems like a terrible idea |
| 02:24.11 | relaxok | . |
| 02:24.14 | relaxok | anyway |
| 02:24.28 | pompy | Dang, the Soyuz isn't docking tonight. The on board computer skipped a burn |
| 02:26.06 | Jamash | relaxok: I've invented this new thing, I'm calling it the "round object that you put on an axle and roll to move a car" |
| 02:27.18 | relaxok | Jamash: so you want me to use some FOTM js/html glue or what? |
| 02:27.51 | Jamash | relaxok: I'm a consultant, I don't have good ideas, I just tell you your ideas are terrible. |
| 02:28.14 | relaxok | pretty much every game has its own UI system |
| 02:29.11 | Shirik | pompy: I've played kerbal space program |
| 02:29.20 | Shirik | they obviously just need to do a time warp |
| 02:29.46 | pompy | heh |
| 02:31.19 | Jamash | relaxok: http://cegui.org.uk/ for one |
| 02:32.39 | relaxok | i'm aware that there are middleware solutions for everything |
| 02:33.24 | Jamash | there's a reason for that |
| 02:35.20 | relaxok | i'm not trying to get some frankenstein creature out the door asap, i'm just learning about various things as I do them |
| 02:36.10 | relaxok | it may trouble you also to know that i made a graphics engine even though unreal/cryengine/unity exist |
| 02:36.31 | Jamash | I'm not at all troubled |
| 02:36.58 | Jamash | just because it's a terrible idea doesn't mean it's necessarily wrong |
| 02:39.03 | relaxok | i guess i see what you mean |
| 02:46.54 | relaxok | nebula169: thank you, knowing that detail has let me hack around it for now |
| 02:48.36 | relaxok | http://bh.polpo.org/ui_ip2.png |
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| 03:01.18 | relaxok | so i guess if your anchors are LEFT and RIGHT and you have an absdimension size and horiztile is set you tile between the anchor points? |
| 03:16.42 | Sintacks | i need to add Angry Assientments to Spamalyzer's prefix list |
| 03:16.48 | Sintacks | heh |
| 03:17.03 | Sintacks | not sure why the prefix is AnAss1 though |
| 03:18.30 | pompy | Sintacks: bug Torhal! |
| 03:19.17 | pompy | why are you not sure lol? Makes sense to me! |
| 03:19.33 | Sintacks | i've already talked to him and he's accetting me updating the list |
| 03:19.55 | Sintacks | but i don't have every addon so i don't know them all. so i only add them when i see an unknown |
| 03:20.52 | pompy | indeed. |
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| 03:26.12 | Neffi | So I extracted a Windows 7 ISO to a non-system partiton at D:, and ran a program to slipstream updates into it. Now I can't seem to delete the ISO's contents. I am owner, I've assured it's not readonly and everybody has full permissions to it, and every attempt to delete it gives access denied |
| 03:26.30 | Neffi | Rather, the folder's contents |
| 03:27.03 | Neffi | Attempting to delete with Explorer.exe tells me I need permission to delete it... from myself |
| 03:27.58 | Neffi | I'm guessing Windows thinks the contents are system files, because they include the files that would be installed to the system |
| 03:28.21 | Neffi | Anyone have any ideas how to delete this short of booting into a livecd? |
| 03:32.04 | Sintacks | Neffi, trying to delete something in \Windows\ folder? |
| 03:32.23 | Neffi | No, but it's a copy of what would normally go in \Windows\ |
| 03:32.45 | Neffi | It's the installer's .wim file, extracted, mimicing a full install |
| 03:32.53 | Sintacks | on an HDD? |
| 03:33.02 | Neffi | On a separate partition from Windows, even |
| 03:33.07 | Neffi | and yes |
| 03:33.28 | Sintacks | rename the folder Windows.old and run disk clean up and it'll delete the whole folder. unless you don't want to delete the whole thing. then idk. |
| 03:33.35 | Sintacks | cuz that folder is a real pain in the ass to delete |
| 03:33.59 | Sintacks | also, that's the trick to get rid of a folder you can't delete. Rename it Windows.old and run disk clean up thing |
| 03:36.09 | Neffi | no such luck |
| 03:36.35 | kullervo | why doesn't windows let you delete it? Can you take ownership and force delete as superuser? |
| 03:36.40 | Neffi | Also it seems my permissions weren't applying to \Windows\, and attempting to grant myself permissions results in access denied -- evne though I made myself owner |
| 03:36.57 | Neffi | An elevated cmd.exe also fails to do anything to it |
| 03:37.08 | Sintacks | that's why i said to do the disk cleanup to delete "old windows installs" by renaming it Windows.old |
| 03:37.22 | Neffi | Doesn't show up at all. Doesn't delete. |
| 03:37.31 | kullervo | Sintacks: he can't rename it without permissions |
| 03:37.46 | kullervo | and it may be a special case too |
| 03:37.50 | Neffi | I renamed Windows folder just fine. The contents are throwing the access denied error |
| 03:38.04 | kullervo | are you sure you own those too? |
| 03:38.46 | Neffi | It possibly failed to apply ownership to the contents without warning. I'll see if I can try to recursively grab ownership. Because there's tens of thousands of files in there |
| 03:38.57 | kullervo | yes it does that |
| 03:39.38 | kullervo | I know because I had a very difficult to remove folder generated by a rootkit detector |
| 03:40.23 | Neffi | After the Windows updates finish I'll see if the recovery portion of the Windows install disc can delete them. Why is this such a pita? |
| 03:40.39 | kullervo | no the recovery portions likely won't allow it either |
| 03:40.51 | kullervo | but if you're using a boot disc why not use a noobuntu live cd or something |
| 03:41.12 | kullervo | seeing how at least debian effectively ignores all NTFS "security" properties |
| 03:43.02 | Neffi | I guess I'll have to |
| 03:46.14 | Neffi | Also does anyone have software in mind for easily slipstreaming a lot of updates into a Win7 install image? Every program I know of seems flaky at best |
| 03:46.40 | kullervo | why would you do that |
| 03:46.49 | Neffi | There's some 160 post-SP1 updates. After reformatting like 6 computers this week, I'm getting sick of having to update post-install |
| 03:47.20 | Neffi | It took a solid 4 hours on my friend's Sandy Bridge laptop |
| 03:48.34 | kullervo | usually takes more time to download than actually install |
| 03:49.00 | Neffi | Nah, downloading takes like 30 min |
| 03:49.05 | kullervo | hmm |
| 03:49.27 | kullervo | must be my SSDs and fiber then, I recalled it being faster! |
| 03:49.44 | Neffi | In fact there's a good program for downloading updates as MSU files in bulk, and downloading all post-SP1 updates took 10 min |
| 03:51.42 | kullervo | but you're at least using an SP1 install image from MS right? |
| 03:51.48 | kullervo | fairly sure they offer those... |
| 03:52.03 | Neffi | Yup, through Digital River |
| 03:52.55 | Neffi | http://goo.gl/Lqo5wg |
| 04:00.38 | pompy | http://www.theverge.com/2014/3/25/5546662/a-dogecoin-sponsored-nascar-is-happening-after-group-raises-more-than-44-thousand-dollars lol wth |
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| 04:17.01 | Shirik | ............ |
| 04:18.44 | sylvanaar_ | hello |
| 04:24.35 | Thunder_Child | Seems rather cheap to sponsor a nascar car. |
| 04:36.57 | Sintacks | i wish bigwigs had something for nazgrim that said if he healed and how much |
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| 05:51.07 | karl_w_w | well that was the easiest firmware update ever |
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| 07:33.02 | nebula169 | Sintacks: give me a log of him healing and i could add something |
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| 08:45.57 | Sintacks | nebula169, i'll see if i can find anything |
| 08:57.59 | Sintacks | 3/26 00:27:40.894 SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS,0xF131175F00001CD0,"Kor'kron Warshaman",0xa48,0x0,0xF151175B00001C21,"General Nazgrim",0x10a48,0x0,143473,"Empowered Chain Heal",0x8,0xF131175F00001CD0,30987012,1172,163,0,10312,1596.02,-4584.30 |
| 08:58.36 | Sintacks | but i don't see a SPELL_HEAL to go with it |
| 08:58.38 | Sintacks | o.O |
| 09:05.00 | Sintacks | 3/26 00:27:41.246 SPELL_HEAL,0xF131175F00001CD0,"Kor'kron Warshaman",0xa48,0x0,0xF151175B00001C21,"General Nazgrim",0x10a48,0x0,143473,"Empowered Chain Heal",0x8,0xF151175B00001C21,816529497,1220,165,0,30,1598.59,-4591.32,157009472,0,0,nil |
| 09:05.16 | Sintacks | I guess that's teh one that goes with it |
| 09:06.05 | Sintacks | oh. 816m is how much he was at. the heal was 157m? |
| 09:06.29 | Sintacks | that's a pretty big heal |
| 09:09.28 | Sintacks | 3/26 00:27:42.097 SPELL_HEAL,0xF151175B00001C21,"General Nazgrim",0x10a48,0x0,0xF151175B00001C21,"General Nazgrim",0x10a48,0x0,143479,"Earth Shield",0x8,0xF151175B00001C21,892377708,1220,165,0,31,1598.59,-4591.32,78504656,0,0,nil |
| 09:10.31 | Sintacks | so even with advanced logging off, you would see the heal and how much it healed. just wouldn't see how much Nazgrim was at before the heal went off. |
| 09:16.00 | Sintacks | UNIT_SPELLCAST_FAILED_QUIET has fired twice for Spirt of Chi'ji when i'm not even trying to heal |
| 09:16.02 | Sintacks | dafuq |
| 09:16.50 | Sintacks | ah. k. so health doesn't show up in CLEU anyway |
| 09:16.52 | Sintacks | sad |
| 09:16.54 | Sintacks | oh well |
| 09:22.38 | Sintacks | so: _, event, _, _, sName, _, _, _, dName, _, _, spellID, spellName, _, amount, overheal, absorbed, crit -- if event == spell_heal & dName == Nazgrim then Nazgrim was healed by spellName for amount (overheal) --- nebula169 |
| 09:22.50 | Sintacks | makes weakaura to do it |
| 09:22.53 | Sintacks | <.< |
| 09:25.51 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:26.03 | Sintacks | hehe. i still have this from when i wanted to add it to WhoInterrupted |
| 09:26.12 | Sintacks | and I use it in my interrupt announce weakaura |
| 09:30.56 | nebula169 | pretty sure all the heals are for a % of his life, so if they get off its usually gg |
| 09:32.58 | Sintacks | yeah. pretty much |
| 09:33.17 | Sintacks | though i'm not sure about the totem. i think it's small. but it can pulse multiple times. |
| 09:33.23 | Sintacks | and by small, i mean it was 78m |
| 09:33.53 | Sintacks | but that's small compared to the 157m chain heal |
| 09:34.02 | Sintacks | kind of |
| 09:38.23 | Sintacks | there isn't a simple function in lua to add commas to large numbers is there... |
| 09:38.31 | Sintacks | finds the one he has some where |
| 09:44.26 | harl | wuff wuff |
| 09:46.12 | Sintacks | moo |
| 09:46.21 | Sintacks | 45:57|Nazgrim was healed by Sindrood for 153,200 (153,200 overheal) |
| 09:46.24 | Sintacks | debugged on myself |
| 09:46.25 | Sintacks | yay me |
| 09:46.34 | Sintacks | now to make it spam raid |
| 09:51.49 | Sintacks | now to forget i made the weakaura and not notice that it doesn't work for some reason tomorrow |
| 09:59.27 | Jamash | I'm really bad at RTS |
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| 10:00.34 | Jamash | the few times I've managed to beat the AI in Planetary Annihilation have been as a result of running away to places it's not programmed to be able to follow |
| 10:00.54 | Jamash | ocean when it didn't build ships |
| 10:01.02 | Jamash | space when it didn't build spaceships |
| 10:01.34 | Jamash | now I have to flee to different planets because it still doesn't know how to planet hop |
| 10:01.55 | Jamash | maybe I'll get better at not dying to nukes |
| 10:01.57 | Jamash | zzzz |
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| 13:59.28 | Dagmar | Alram: Protip: That looks dumb as hell to everyone else. |
| 13:59.36 | Alram | im aware |
| 13:59.43 | Alram | it doesnt happen often, just had to vpn into work for a sec |
| 14:00.01 | Dagmar | Using a VPN made you change the 'A' in your nickname from uppercase to lowercase repeatedly? |
| 14:00.13 | Alram | since i lose connection to my bouncer, yes |
| 14:00.24 | nevcairiel | changing name when detaching is so '99 |
| 14:00.34 | Dagmar | Impressive. |
| 14:00.53 | Dagmar | I didn't think someone could actually comem up with something dumber than away nicks |
| 14:00.58 | rid_ | Alram-oFF |
| 14:01.13 | Alram | i'd lose my nick then so no thanks rid_ |
| 14:01.13 | nevcairiel | Dagmar: it is an away nick :P |
| 14:01.24 | nevcairiel | Alram: not registered? :p |
| 14:01.39 | Alram | some networks dont allow fancy nickname registration |
| 14:01.44 | Dagmar | This one does |
| 14:01.45 | Alram | and i like my config to be the same across networks |
| 14:02.20 | Dagmar | Okay, so you're using a bouncer that publicly demonstrates you don't understand how IRC works to multiple networks at once. |
| 14:03.02 | Alram | i do, it's rude to assume i dont |
| 14:03.30 | Dagmar | We don't have to assume. You're using away nicks. |
| 14:03.49 | Dagmar | That pretty much removes all doubt right there. |
| 14:03.51 | Alram | yup, and that isnt the same as not knowing how irc works |
| 14:04.20 | Dagmar | Considering that IRC has had an /away flag built into it since before most people had VGA displays? Actually, it does. |
| 14:04.30 | Alram | i use /away |
| 14:04.36 | Alram | when im afk |
| 14:04.42 | Dagmar | Yet you use a bouncer that changes your nickname when you're away? |
| 14:04.47 | Alram | when im actually offline nick goes to lowercase |
| 14:04.51 | Alram | its intended |
| 14:04.56 | Dagmar | It's stupid. |
| 14:05.05 | Alram | in your opinion which i dont really care about :P |
| 14:06.12 | Dagmar | Looks like you're just going to have to put up with the fact that you've still not learned how to use IRC properly, then. |
| 14:06.46 | Alram | your opinion isnt fact, sorry |
| 14:06.58 | rid_ | you can ignore nickchanges Dagmar |
| 14:07.03 | rid_ | in most clients |
| 14:07.06 | Dagmar | No, it's not. My statements however, are fack, noobcakes. |
| 14:07.19 | Dagmar | rid_: Doesn't change the fact that away nicks are for bitches. |
| 14:07.25 | Alram | fack, indeed. |
| 14:07.43 | Dagmar | Well, I figured maybe I should try speaking a little idjit. |
| 14:07.49 | Dagmar | It might get the point across. |
| 14:08.11 | Alram | you're just being rude because you want to make a point |
| 14:08.16 | Alram | just ignore me if you dont like the nick changes |
| 14:08.20 | Alram | thats fine |
| 14:08.31 | Dagmar | No, I'm being rude because you're being aggressively dumb and asking me to pretend like it's completely normal. |
| 14:09.20 | Alram | im not agressive or calling people idiots |
| 14:09.27 | Alram | just ignore and problem is solved |
| 14:10.40 | Dagmar | Alram: http://freenode.net/poundfreenode.shtml#considerate |
| 14:10.55 | rid_ | welcome back Shadowed !! |
| 14:10.57 | rid_ | :] |
| 14:11.01 | Dagmar | _Away nicks are a thing stupid people do_. |
| 14:12.18 | Alram | it wasn't excessive on purpose as i explained |
| 14:12.32 | Alram | and those rules also say to stay ontopic which this isnt, and to be civil |
| 14:12.40 | Dagmar | Ah yes. You bear no fault because it's some software installed that you just have no control over whatsoever. |
| 14:12.57 | Alram | i have full control over my bouncer |
| 14:13.04 | Alram | i just prefer it this way |
| 14:13.11 | Dagmar | Clearly you don't or you wouldn't be continuing to let it make pointless nickname changes. |
| 14:13.18 | Alram | and if you can't deal with that either get me banned or ignore me |
| 14:13.32 | Dagmar | No problem, shortbus. |
| 14:13.35 | Alram | now let's stop spamming up this channel with useless banter |
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| 14:46.54 | Ackis | banters away |
| 14:47.00 | Ackis | banter banter banter banter banter |
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| 14:53.33 | TC-Work | ~lart Ackis |
| 14:53.33 | purl | pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps Ackis |
| 14:53.48 | Ackis | banters at TC-Work |
| 14:53.58 | Ackis | banters at Torhal to ping him away from whatever he's working on. |
| 14:54.03 | TC-Work | counter-banters Ackis |
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| 15:06.26 | rid_ | Torhal never works on anything! |
| 15:06.33 | rid_ | nods |
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| 15:16.19 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:18.05 | Ackis | slaps Fisker around with a bit of Torhal's beard. |
| 15:18.12 | Fisker | no Ackis |
| 15:24.32 | Lopeppeppy | No Fisker. Lobster bisque. |
| 15:24.39 | Fisker | :( |
| 15:24.40 | Fisker | But |
| 15:25.40 | Lopeppeppy | Noms are necessary |
| 15:32.29 | Fisker | yes |
| 15:32.39 | Fisker | I once killed a guy Lopeppeppy |
| 15:33.37 | Lopeppeppy | Oh yeah? With what? |
| 15:33.43 | Fisker | You |
| 15:35.24 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, Unkle, you hear that? I'm now classified as a deadly weapon! |
| 15:37.30 | Unkle | Shot through the heart, and you're to blame ... |
| 15:37.36 | Unkle | BBL |
| 15:38.20 | Lopeppeppy | Uh oh. I killed him too. |
| 15:38.33 | TC-Work | Seems you also give love a bad name |
| 15:40.05 | Lopeppeppy | When you hurt, when you suffer, I'm your angel undercover. |
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| 15:54.25 | TC-Work | Enough with the getting songs stuck in my head. |
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| 16:08.36 | Ackis | is there an easier way to add things like this http://pastebin.com/vUqk1cdS to shell scripts? |
| 16:09.28 | Dagmar | wat |
| 16:10.14 | AcidWeb | Ackis: toilet (yes really), figlet |
| 16:10.21 | Dagmar | If this a trick question just to see what it takes to get people to blow a fuse? |
| 16:10.49 | Ackis | ty AcidWeb, didn't know of those commands but I'll look into them |
| 16:11.02 | Dagmar | figlet will let you make really huge text. |
| 16:11.11 | Dagmar | printf will let you format strings into boxes. |
| 16:11.38 | Dagmar | -e is commpletely fucking worthless there, by the way |
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| 16:12.33 | Ackis | lol an example of toilet: while true; do echo "$(date '+%D %T' | toilet -f term -F border --gay)"; sleep 1; done <-- notice the border colour name? |
| 16:18.52 | Dagmar | Helzibah: What's our policy on away nicks here? |
| 16:18.59 | Dagmar | @#$@# |
| 16:19.14 | Maldivia | Dagmar: wrong window... again? |
| 16:19.30 | Dagmar | Pretty much |
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| 16:48.16 | Shirik | "Theories range from a hijacking to sabotage or a possible suicide by one of the pilots, but investigators have not ruled out technical problems" |
| 16:48.29 | Shirik | I read this as "investigators have not ruled out technical problems, but DON'T WORRY, THE MEDIA HAS!" |
| 16:49.52 | Unkle | The problem is that in the absence of facts, humans latch onto speculation or fragmentary data and convert those to certainties and facts. |
| 16:56.44 | Dagmar | The probem is that we don't fire newscasters for making shit up on the air |
| 16:56.52 | Dagmar | Well, _one_ of the problems anyway |
| 16:59.06 | Unkle | Hangin' 's too good fer 'em. |
| 16:59.30 | Dagmar | I just want one of them to openly speculate that it could have been aliens from space. |
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| 17:03.32 | Shirik | Dagmar: actually I saw that theory somewhere |
| 17:03.56 | Shirik | there was also one that it flew so high it went into orbit |
| 17:04.00 | Shirik | that one made me cry a little bit |
| 17:04.52 | Unkle | Dagmar: What, the black hole speculation wasn't good enough for you? |
| 17:05.36 | Ermad | imo they got stuck on the island from LOST. |
| 17:05.41 | airtonix | technical problems doesn't get laws passed |
| 17:05.48 | airtonix | doesn't sell papers |
| 17:06.12 | airtonix | terrorist aliens arriving through a reverse blackhole to cause a plane to go into orbit |
| 17:06.12 | Unkle | Someone on twitter joked that they hoped when they found the plane, it came with a better ending to LOST. |
| 17:06.14 | airtonix | that sells |
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| 17:35.04 | Fisker | so Lopeppeppy |
| 17:35.12 | Lopeppeppy | Yes dear. |
| 17:35.49 | Fisker | Wanna murder my boss? |
| 17:35.52 | Fisker | I'll murder yours |
| 17:35.55 | Fisker | criss cross |
| 17:36.37 | jnwhiteh | Wow |
| 17:36.46 | jnwhiteh | the amount of fail on my 1099-MISC from Curse is amazing. |
| 17:36.52 | jnwhiteh | 1.) social security number is wrong |
| 17:37.06 | jnwhiteh | 2.) they spelled 'Worcester' as 'Worchestor' |
| 17:37.08 | Lopeppeppy | Throw Our Bosses from the Train! Yes. |
| 17:37.13 | Fisker | \o/ |
| 17:37.30 | Lopeppeppy | They can spell Worcester wrong, that's okay. Wrong SSN, not so okay. |
| 17:37.42 | Lopeppeppy | I mean, try spelling Schenectady three times fast. |
| 17:37.45 | jnwhiteh | 3.) The post code appears to be 'Oh Ex Ell, 2 minute H Be' |
| 17:37.51 | jnwhiteh | which is not the same as OX1 2HB |
| 17:39.26 | jnwhiteh | Torhal: is Kenny still the guy to contact? |
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| 17:46.23 | karl_w_w | what are those small furry creatures in star wars called |
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| 17:48.10 | karl_w_w | ewoks |
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| 17:57.53 | TC-Work | karl_w_w: Tribbles. |
| 17:58.12 | karl_w_w | oh ok thanks |
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| 18:52.51 | TC-Work | Fisker: Failure |
| 18:53.17 | TC-Work | Fisker: Also a game that you want is on sale. |
| 18:53.22 | Fisker | ok |
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| 19:43.21 | stoneharry | Hi guys, is it possible to change a backdrop's layer (Strata)? I want my edges to be a higher layer than the frames contents. I can't just set the contents to background because then the background of the backdrop overlaps the contents of the frame. :) |
| 19:44.33 | Neffi | The backdrop should appear as an anonymous texture you can grab with frame:GetRegions() |
| 19:44.55 | Neffi | Then you can :SetDrawLayer() on it |
| 19:45.10 | stoneharry | Okay I will look into this, thanks for the quick response |
| 19:45.37 | Neffi | Alternately, don't use the builtin SetBackdrop, but craft it yourself out of textures, so you have total control |
| 19:59.04 | stoneharry | GetRegions() is returning userdata, how do I even handle that? I was expecting a table |
| 19:59.16 | stoneharry | A table containing 1 value of userdata |
| 20:01.51 | stoneharry | Ah, it's a C structure that cannot be accessed |
| 20:03.56 | stoneharry | Yeah, I don't think this is returning the edges I need to change and your second method is a bit too complex for me. I wouldn't know where to even start making edges that scale with resolution on a frame. :) I'll just leave the frame's contents overlapping the edges for now. |
| 20:05.42 | stoneharry | nvm, using select it works? |
| 20:08.14 | Neffi | stoneharry: that table is a frame (texture) |
| 20:08.35 | Neffi | All frames are tables, with a pointer to their internal representation stored at [0] |
| 20:10.44 | Neffi | stoneharry: :GetRegions will return all regions of a frame (all textures and fontstring). So yes, you either need to select() your specific one, or dump them into a table and access it as an array like: local regions = { myFrame:GetRegions() }; region1 = regions[1], etc |
| 20:10.47 | stoneharry | Thank you, it now works using this: |
| 20:10.48 | stoneharry | -- Try to make the edges a higher layer local i = 9 -- The first edge while true do local edge = select(i, MainFrame_Back:GetRegions()) if edge == nil then break end edge:SetDrawLayer("OVERLAY") i = i + 1 end |
| 20:12.11 | Neffi | That seems like it'll set all regions to overlay |
| 20:12.31 | stoneharry | I start 'i' at 9 which is the first occurance of an edge |
| 20:12.42 | stoneharry | 8 is the background, and all ones before that are the various buttons/textures |
| 20:12.45 | stoneharry | etc |
| 20:13.25 | stoneharry | http://ft.trillian.im/f800ca6f2a9ff5edc8f655d69602ff46ad806456/6omYViUYVTJ8riPdQQsUID9f1Bi9k.jpg You can see it working here. :) |
| 20:13.43 | Neffi | Ah, you're incrementing not decrementing. But if you add an extra region after :SetBackdrop, that would set that to overlay as well |
| 20:14.12 | stoneharry | I'm setting the backdrop in XML |
| 20:14.17 | stoneharry | I add it last |
| 20:14.23 | stoneharry | so it's always at the end of the table |
| 20:14.24 | stoneharry | :) |
| 20:15.38 | Neffi | What you may be better off doing is this: select(-1,MainFrame_Back:GetRegions()):SetDrawLayer("OVERLAY"); select(-2,MainFrame_Back:GetRegions()):SetDrawLayer("OVERLAY") |
| 20:15.48 | Neffi | That will select the 2 last items in the list |
| 20:16.26 | stoneharry | The problem is the edges are more than 1 image and it will increase/decrease depending on the resolution |
| 20:16.55 | Neffi | Ah. If I remember correctly it's actually 8 objects, tiled |
| 20:17.06 | stoneharry | It's always 8? |
| 20:17.10 | Neffi | I think so |
| 20:17.17 | Neffi | Each side (4) plus each corner (4) |
| 20:17.21 | stoneharry | Let me try that, thanks |
| 20:17.24 | Neffi | When stretching, it just tiles the sides |
| 20:20.33 | stoneharry | -- Try to make the edges a higher layer for i = -1, -8, -1 do select(i, MainFrame_Back:GetRegions()):SetDrawLayer("OVERLAY") select(i, MainFrame_Header:GetRegions()):SetDrawLayer("OVERLAY") end |
| 20:20.34 | stoneharry | worked, thnas |
| 20:20.36 | stoneharry | thanks* |
| 20:23.12 | Neffi | Also I vaguely recall seeing a lib on Curse that implemented a better SetBackdrop |
| 20:23.49 | Neffi | The builtin one has some deficiencies. Like having to do this kind of stuff to change texture project; also it doesn't support small frames |
| 20:23.57 | Neffi | properties, rather |
| 20:24.16 | stoneharry | ^^ For this project I am working on this is enough functionality, but thanks for the information |
| 20:24.52 | Neffi | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/libbackdrop-1-0 |
| 20:25.02 | Neffi | makes it as simple as: frame:BorderTextureFunction("SetDrawLayer","ARTWORK") |
| 20:25.11 | stoneharry | That's cool |
| 20:25.30 | Neffi | Also lets you do gradients on the backdrop and other cool stuff. And it works exactly like the default :SetBackdrop |
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| 20:36.30 | Neffi | hehe https://i.imgur.com/xbmzqYp.gif |
| 20:38.15 | stoneharry | haha |
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| 20:57.03 | Jamash | Knock knock! |
| 20:57.35 | TC-Work | Go away |
| 21:00.22 | Jamash | :[ |
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| 21:07.15 | TC-Work | I do like you, I just wanted you to go away |
| 21:07.20 | TC-Work | and/or stop knocking |
| 21:09.16 | Jamash | I am nothing if not committed to my craft. |
| 21:09.23 | Jamash | Which is apparently annoying people on the internet. |
| 21:10.07 | TC-Work | I prefer to do it in person |
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| 21:37.59 | Arrowmaster | finally got the delivery and put my d3 code in and now the game isnt starting |
| 21:38.11 | Arrowmaster | wtf launcher why arent you launching the game |
| 21:40.02 | Gnarfoz | it's really a rocket launcher |
| 21:40.11 | pompy | indeed |
| 21:44.27 | Unkle | Arrowmaster: Have fun storming the castle! |
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| 21:57.31 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: Doesn't it have to go through a recombobulating thing? |
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| 22:17.01 | stoneharry | Is it possible to overlay ChatFrame1 over the top of a custom frame? I can't seem to get it to layer above. |
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| 22:20.45 | Neffi | If you reparent it to your frame, it should show above. Alternately you can manually play with the z-order. SetFrameStrata to choose the strata, then :SetLayer to change the layering within that strata |
| 22:21.30 | Neffi | Sorry, that's :SetFrameLevel, not :SetLayer |
| 22:22.01 | stoneharry | http://pastebin.com/hW9j8xur this is the code I'm hacking with at the moment but it hasn't had much result. I'll try your other suggestion |
| 22:27.30 | stoneharry | hmmm even setting the width/height is having no affect |
| 22:31.09 | Seerah | stoneharry: is your frame set to background strata? That should put it behind without needing to change the chat frame's parent |
| 22:32.26 | stoneharry | that did bring it in front :) cheers |
| 22:32.35 | stoneharry | just need to work out how to make interactable with still now |
| 22:32.44 | stoneharry | and also why positioning/changing size is not working |
| 22:34.13 | Seerah | make your frame interactable? |
| 22:34.26 | stoneharry | <Frame name="MainFrame" hidden="false" setAllPoints="true" enableMouse="true" enableKeyboard="true"> |
| 22:34.27 | stoneharry | it is |
| 22:34.35 | stoneharry | as far as I know |
| 22:34.50 | Seerah | no, I was asking if that was what you wanted to make interactable since you didn't say |
| 22:35.11 | Seerah | Also, don't name your frame MainFrame |
| 22:35.19 | stoneharry | Ah, yes sorry. My frame is full screen and I want to position the chat from on it and make it interactable |
| 22:35.26 | Seerah | That's a very generic global. <-- bad |
| 22:35.28 | stoneharry | Yeah, probably a bad idea. :) |
| 22:35.46 | Seerah | again, what is "it"? |
| 22:36.18 | Unkle | huggles Seerah |
| 22:36.26 | Seerah | huggles Unkle |
| 22:36.58 | stoneharry | http://ft.trillian.im/f800ca6f2a9ff5edc8f655d69602ff46ad806456/6on56vFPxPdNyhurM62QFAE8mY5Oi.jpg You can see a blank window on the bottom left of this screenshot which is where I aim to position the chat frame and make it interactable with. |
| 22:37.16 | Seerah | you said "it" again. :P |
| 22:37.34 | stoneharry | make the chat frame interactable with8 |
| 22:37.35 | stoneharry | * |
| 22:37.47 | Seerah | interactable how? |
| 22:37.55 | stoneharry | Type in it. Whisper in it. etc. |
| 22:38.01 | Unkle | in what? |
| 22:38.06 | stoneharry | Standard functionality, just overlayed on my frame instead of the UIParent. |
| 22:38.11 | stoneharry | The chat frame. xD |
| 22:38.30 | Seerah | it being moved to on top of your frame should have no effect on that |
| 22:38.53 | Seerah | do you have "Make Interactable" checked in your chat frame menu? |
| 22:39.30 | Unkle | ok, night all. |
| 22:39.34 | Seerah | nn |
| 22:41.28 | stoneharry | yes |
| 22:41.46 | Seerah | but you can't use the chat frame still? |
| 22:42.09 | stoneharry | It seems anything not in my frame becomes uninteractable with once I render mine. |
| 22:42.40 | stoneharry | also setting the position, size, or anything of the ChatFrame is not having any apparent affect |
| 22:42.43 | Seerah | You did say your frame covered the whole screen and that it is mouse enabled |
| 22:43.14 | stoneharry | okay. Yeah. |
| 22:43.21 | stoneharry | obviously I misunderstood that element |
| 22:43.41 | stoneharry | Removed enable mouse and it is interactable with again and the frame still works as intended |
| 22:43.55 | Seerah | that means that it will catch any and all mouse clicks/events on the frame |
| 22:44.11 | stoneharry | I see |
| 22:44.49 | Seerah | I'm curious after seeing your screenshot - what is the purpose of your addon? |
| 22:46.47 | stoneharry | Just a concept I want to try and implement, note the try as I haven't done anything advanced before. Making a minigame within WoW with multiplayer so you can play against other people with the addon. I was inspired by Peggle |
| 22:47.04 | Seerah | ahhh. neat |
| 22:49.12 | stoneharry | Any idea why any modifications I do to the chatframe and not having any affect? I need to reposition it and set the size now. Closest thread I've found is here http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29382 but no solution found :P |
| 22:51.14 | Seerah | Did you try doing what I said in that thread? |
| 22:51.39 | Seerah | when are you moving the chat frame? |
| 22:51.41 | stoneharry | oh didn't see that message |
| 22:51.45 | stoneharry | yeah. That would make sense. |
| 22:52.17 | stoneharry | that worked ;) |
| 22:52.22 | Seerah | :) |
| 22:52.30 | stoneharry | Had the same issue when setting the background model. Should have thought of that earlier. :P |
| 22:56.04 | stoneharry | http://i.imgur.com/BwR2942.jpg excellent, working as intended. Thanks for the help. |
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| 23:10.43 | kullervo | stoneharry: embracing the idea that mmorpgs are just glorified chat clients? |
| 23:11.21 | Neffi | s/glorified/expensive and quirky/ |
| 23:11.43 | stoneharry | haha. :) When you click the minimap icon for the addon, it brings up this full screen interface which will have a lobby for chatting and other players currently playing the game (not sure how I will implement the latter), play game will allow you to target a player to challenge |
| 23:12.01 | stoneharry | It's more a bit of fun. |
| 23:12.59 | kullervo | Neffi: you must be real fun at parties |
| 23:13.15 | Neffi | oh, very. |
| 23:14.57 | Neffi | https://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2014/03/msg00104.html |
| 23:15.27 | stoneharry | what aha |
| 23:15.47 | Neffi | i don't even know |
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| 23:24.32 | pompy | omfg, what is this world coming to lololol. http://www.ign.com/videos/2014/03/26/goat-simulator-launch-trailer |
| 23:25.54 | pompy | and not made by some indiv person... made by the devs behind the Sanctum games lol.. |
| 23:26.53 | stoneharry | lol it's got popular |
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| 23:36.48 | karl_w_w | nice, youtube made it even more difficult to leave a youtube comment without using your full name |
| 23:38.35 | pompy | turns out that trailer is making fun of the dead island trailer lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZqrG1bdGtg |
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| 23:47.15 | Neffi | karl_w_w: Isn't it impossible to do so now? |
| 23:47.28 | karl_w_w | no |
| 23:47.35 | karl_w_w | it somehow worked for me |
| 23:47.59 | karl_w_w | I don't even know what I did this time, it just redirected me to a page where it gave me the option |
| 23:48.05 | Neffi | Lucky. I can't do anything on YT anymore without using my name/G+ |
| 23:48.07 | karl_w_w | the whole thing's a fucking mess |
| 23:48.38 | Neffi | yeah. it's bad. I imagine google's being like "fuck you, because you'll use it anyway" |
| 23:48.49 | Neffi | Vimeo is better anyway |
| 23:49.05 | Neffi | Vimeo at least doesn't destroy the quality of HD videos |
| 23:50.56 | Neffi | I wish Vimeo would allow game screencasts. Dat HD qualit |
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| 23:55.09 | Wobin_ | pompy: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1330754003/bear-simulator |
| 23:55.55 | kd3 | lmao, he actually fired up a kickstarter? |
| 23:55.57 | Neffi | haha @ that $1,000,000 goal |
| 23:57.21 | Dagmar | Wouldn't it be fun if they made it. |
