| 00:00.22 | Semlar | this is my event handler addon:SetScript('OnEvent', function(self, event, ...) return self[event] and self[event](self, ...) end) |
| 00:01.26 | Semlar | "addon" is a frame |
| 00:01.46 | Jamash | Arena pick: Lorewalker Cho, Millhouse Manastorm, Baron Geddon -_- |
| 00:02.27 | Jamash | yes please give me legendaries that help my opponent kill me, that's exactly what I want |
| 00:03.49 | Semlar | zmuser3: http://pastebin.com/N57uX4eT |
| 00:03.58 | Jamash | immediately followed by Malygos, Al'Akir, Sylvanas :O |
| 00:04.12 | zmuser3 | thanks, just trying to understand the "and" part |
| 00:04.24 | zmuser3 | like one with args and one without? |
| 00:05.03 | Semlar | okay basically it checks if a key named [event] exists in the table before trying to call it as a function |
| 00:05.12 | zmuser3 | oh |
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| 00:05.26 | Semlar | otherwise if you register an event you haven't named a function after it could throw an error |
| 00:05.51 | zmuser3 | cool |
| 00:05.51 | Semlar | it's the same as doing if self[event] then return self[event(self, ...) end |
| 00:06.06 | Semlar | except without the typos |
| 00:06.19 | zmuser3 | I see |
| 00:07.25 | Semlar | it's normally called a ternary condition but it's short-circuiting in lua |
| 00:07.38 | zmuser3 | so for a table you can have t['k'] = 'v' and also function t:foo() |
| 00:08.03 | Semlar | t['foo'] t.foo and f:foo are all the same key in the table |
| 00:08.10 | Semlar | er t:foo |
| 00:08.15 | Semlar | i can't type |
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| 00:08.26 | zmuser3 | ok |
| 00:08.28 | Semlar | i've been up since like 2 |
| 00:08.44 | zmuser3 | heh |
| 00:09.04 | Neffi | function t.foo() end === t['foo'] = function() end; function t:foo() end === function t.foo(self) end; t.foo() === t['foo'](); t:foo() === t.foo(t) |
| 00:09.16 | Semlar | f.too(t) |
| 00:09.26 | Semlar | neffi |
| 00:09.30 | Neffi | semlar |
| 00:09.33 | Semlar | whatcha doin |
| 00:09.54 | Semlar | i think i'm going to go make some coffee |
| 00:10.05 | Neffi | Was mulling over vertical vs horizontal progression models in RPGs. Now probably gonna play some Pokemans |
| 00:10.18 | zmuser3 | ok I saved all that in case I forget thanks |
| 00:11.11 | Neffi | Wondering on a good model for near-linear horizontal progression in an MMO, and the impact it would have on longevity |
| 00:11.39 | Semlar | well if it lasts longer than 4 hours you should seek immediate professional help |
| 00:11.47 | Neffi | heh |
| 00:12.26 | Neffi | I think I'd have fun doing an MMO that eschewed typical paradigm, and artificial limitations we typically see at expansion boundaries, level boundaries, gear/tier boundaries, etc |
| 00:14.25 | Neffi | zmuser3: function tbl:foo(a,b) end === function tbl.foo(self,a,b) end <-- that probably clears up some confusion w.r.t arguments |
| 00:14.57 | Neffi | If you call it with :, `self` becomes an implicit first parameter. Likewise is you define it that way. Which means if you call it in a different way you define it, arguments get shifted one way or the other |
| 00:15.15 | zmuser3 | ah |
| 00:15.29 | zmuser3 | yeah I was hung up on your last one above t:foo() === t.foo(t) |
| 00:15.50 | Neffi | eg. function myAddon:print(a) ChatFrame1:AddMessage(a) end; myAddon.print("test"); would error. `a` is nil, because my string got passed as `self` (the *real* first parameter, because of : ) |
| 00:16.20 | zmuser3 | ok |
| 00:17.06 | Neffi | This is why you can do ("%s"):format("test"); because strings inherit from `string`, so ("...").format == string.format; and calling it with : causes the string itself to be passed as the first parameter |
| 00:18.06 | Semlar | i think he's probably thoroughly confused |
| 00:18.20 | zmuser3 | nah |
| 00:18.47 | Semlar | you rarely use the dot syntax over the colon unless you have some reason for it |
| 00:19.05 | Semlar | at least i rarely do |
| 00:19.06 | Neffi | That's a stylistic choice |
| 00:19.15 | Semlar | right and my way is the correct way |
| 00:19.32 | Neffi | Sometimes I define a function which feels like like a method of my addon, and more just a function that's being stored in a namespace, so I give it a dot |
| 00:19.42 | Neffi | s/like like/less like/ |
| 00:20.21 | Semlar | i feel like i don't even know you |
| 00:20.35 | Neffi | <_< time to clean and play pokemans |
| 00:21.56 | Semlar | why do you have to clean them first |
| 00:22.19 | zmuser3 | I didn't realize a frame was a table until just now. I just thought everything was magic |
| 00:22.26 | Semlar | everything is a table |
| 00:22.35 | Neffi | Most stuff is a table* |
| 00:22.40 | Semlar | you're a table |
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| 00:23.14 | Neffi | zmuser3: A frame is a userdata wrapped in a table. It's wrapped in a table for convenience mostly, so you can do the type of stuff Semlar pointed out. |
| 00:23.35 | Neffi | The actual pointer to the internal representation of the frame is stored at the table's [0] key |
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| 00:24.19 | zmuser3 | I gave up trying to get that loot addon to do what I want so I wrote it from scratch. there is no gui for changing settings but oh well command line works. whole thing seems to work pretty well |
| 00:24.41 | zmuser3 | is there something like perl Data::Dumper to show the whole thing? |
| 00:24.59 | Semlar | you can /dump a variable in game |
| 00:25.05 | Neffi | The built in DevTools provides a dump capability |
| 00:25.05 | zmuser3 | ok |
| 00:25.18 | Neffi | What Semlar said, also there should be a function you can call to dump it from within code |
| 00:25.59 | Semlar | if it makes you feel any better i almost never add settings to anything |
| 00:26.09 | Neffi | http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/17930/Blizzard_DebugTools/Dump.lua |
| 00:26.32 | Semlar | if i want the addon to do something i'll write it that way |
| 00:28.46 | Semlar | well, actually, come to think of it usually i get halfway through implementing a feature and get bored and move onto something else |
| 00:29.50 | zmuser3 | now if lua just had autovivification so you don't need t = {} |
| 00:31.36 | Semlar | setmetatable({}, {__index = function(t,k) t[k] = {} return t[k] end}) |
| 00:32.17 | zmuser3 | ? |
| 00:32.49 | zmuser3 | I see but how do you use it? |
| 00:33.14 | Semlar | well, basically when you try and look up a key in the table it creates it if it doesn't exist |
| 00:33.39 | Semlar | i suppose a more useful example would have it apply the meta table to the tables it creates as well |
| 00:35.43 | Semlar | you would use it like local t = setmetatable({}, {__index = function(t,k) t[k] = {} return t[k] end}) |
| 00:35.56 | Semlar | and then looking up any key in t would automatically create it |
| 00:36.54 | zmuser3 | oh ok |
| 00:43.53 | Semlar | i think this would probably work http://pastebin.com/MieCGzTe |
| 00:44.01 | zmuser3 | just found wowlua addon, I had been trying to test stuff in a lua I built here but it is too different |
| 00:45.14 | Semlar | then you could do like t[1][2][3] = 'asdf' without it failing |
| 00:45.33 | Shirik | vinny returns |
| 00:45.35 | Shirik | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMBg0j1GGgI |
| 00:48.33 | zmuser3 | niiiiice thanks. tested it out |
| 00:48.59 | Semlar | there might be a better way to do that but i'm too tired to think right now |
| 00:49.51 | Semlar | essentially when you look up the key in the table, if it doesn't exist then it calls the function and creates the key |
| 00:50.32 | Semlar | it falls back on the meta table when it fails to find what it was looking for in the table |
| 01:14.36 | Dagmar | auto-vivification? |
| 01:15.26 | Neffi | Shirik: is he the one that did the review of that truck racing game? |
| 01:15.36 | Shirik | probably |
| 01:15.40 | Shirik | he did airport simulator |
| 01:16.22 | Neffi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rikTiT2OwqQ&list=FLQnbeTEJXOcy_DnJa4TOO_Q&feature=share |
| 01:26.02 | Shirik | aw |
| 01:26.05 | Shirik | that's not him :( |
| 01:26.09 | Shirik | yeah I remember this video though |
| 01:27.17 | pompy1 | http://youtu.be/h6DtVHqyYts :P |
| 01:42.36 | Neffi | http://youtu.be/YpZ7gXn8baA lol |
| 01:48.55 | pompy1 | https://www.facebook.com/WildStarOnline/posts/10153914731190514?stream_ref=10 so Carbine Studios showin off TTH, eh? |
| 01:51.15 | Gnarfoz | probably just bad luck that the guide was published there ;p |
| 01:53.07 | Gnarfoz | "Vertical Sync requires significant processing power that can be used elsewhere." -- erm... for what would vsync require processing power |
| 01:53.19 | Gnarfoz | (let alone significant processing power) |
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| 01:54.01 | Neffi | Maybe they figure it's graphically intensive because it can lower their framerate significantly.. |
| 01:54.07 | Neffi | like 110->60 |
| 01:54.35 | Dagmar | It's even harder on British users. ;) |
| 01:55.47 | Gnarfoz | Neffi: that's the only reasoning I can come up with, too; which is sad, because if the person writing that article is taking adivce from someone who believes /that/... *shudders* |
| 01:56.07 | Dagmar | http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=928593 |
| 01:56.21 | Neffi | Yeah, I'm not taking advice from an article like that. I'd toy with my own settings |
| 01:56.23 | Gnarfoz | HardOCP \o/ |
| 01:56.59 | Gnarfoz | zomg wall of text |
| 01:57.22 | Gnarfoz | why did you post that? doest it somewhere contain something validating that theory? |
| 01:57.55 | Dagmar | Because it explains that the "cost" happens when the FPS is below the display's refresh rate and why |
| 01:58.04 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 01:58.19 | Gnarfoz | but |
| 01:58.22 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 01:58.23 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 01:58.46 | Gnarfoz | did the reddit person who's quoted in that article make "requires processing power" out of that? |
| 01:58.46 | Dagmar | it'll be handy the next time some fanboy blindly shours "VSYNC IS HARD" |
| 01:58.53 | Dagmar | s/shours/shouts/ |
| 01:59.04 | Gnarfoz | random topic jump: |
| 01:59.11 | Gnarfoz | does the 750ti support G-Sync? |
| 01:59.16 | Gnarfoz | :O |
| 01:59.24 | Gnarfoz | is hardware support even necessary on the GPU side |
| 01:59.44 | Gnarfoz | i have no fucking idea, even though I was at the nvidia booth at blizzcon, talking about it with some nvidia guys >_> |
| 02:00.32 | Gnarfoz | ah yes: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/g-sync/system-requirements |
| 02:01.27 | Gnarfoz | so that's a tossup between "list not updated", or "at least 650 Ti Boost Kepler based" is inaccurate |
| 02:01.31 | Gnarfoz | or whatever |
| 02:01.37 | Gnarfoz | it's not like I have screens supportin git |
| 02:01.49 | Neffi | I imagine it's in-driver, and artificually limited. |
| 02:02.07 | Neffi | But it's not worth using a shitty TN panel IMO |
| 02:02.53 | Gnarfoz | I'm using a shitty IPS panel |
| 02:02.57 | Gnarfoz | not much better |
| 02:02.58 | Gnarfoz | ;] |
| 02:03.26 | Gnarfoz | or rather, I should say, I'm disappointed by the poor backlight |
| 02:04.32 | kd3 | now that square gems are dropping, am I ever going to see the lower-level gems again? regulars, flawlesses, etc... |
| 02:07.20 | TC-Work | Yes, if you level up a new char |
| 02:07.30 | TC-Work | other than that, nope |
| 02:07.43 | TC-Work | although, I am not sure if you went back to normal |
| 02:07.49 | TC-Work | what you would find |
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| 02:14.21 | Gethe | g-sync reqires special hardware in the monitor itself. there are none that have this nativly, and one with a mod kit |
| 02:20.57 | Gnarfoz | Gethe: that wasn't the question |
| 02:20.57 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 02:22.09 | Gethe | yeah GPU, seems like an arbitrary limitation to me |
| 02:39.35 | Sintacks | slaps Neffi_ around a bit with a large trout | 4,838 tributes to Monty Python |
| 02:41.06 | Shirik | a friend of mine was complaining about his company's code |
| 02:41.12 | Shirik | he found a comment that is literally just "// ???" |
| 02:41.36 | Shirik | he followed up with "at least someone was as confused as I am" |
| 02:41.50 | Shirik | a little later he found out it was him who wrote the comment |
| 02:41.55 | Shirik | a year ago |
| 02:43.05 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 02:47.04 | pompy1 | Shirik: http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Kelso-Says-Burn-That-70s-Show.gif :D |
| 02:47.09 | pompy1 | burned by his own burn! |
| 02:52.03 | pompy1 | Exception up = new Exception("Something is really wrong."); throw up; //ha ha |
| 02:52.07 | pompy1 | har har! |
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| 03:17.40 | Shirik | how did I miss this one o.o http://www.darklegacycomics.com/422.html |
| 03:27.43 | Trela | That fucking hunter. |
| 03:29.19 | kd3 | amusing watching everyone get started in act iv - prime evil right about now... |
| 03:38.58 | kullervo | there should be an addon that automatically insults hunters who have AotP on |
| 03:40.08 | Shirik | wouldn't that one addon |
| 03:40.10 | Shirik | um |
| 03:40.22 | Shirik | like it spams out in raid chat anyone that fucks up during a raid |
| 03:40.40 | kullervo | I could set up a weak aura for it |
| 03:41.09 | kullervo | if dazed while the buff is active, whispers aura source |
| 03:41.30 | Shirik | big brother |
| 03:41.31 | Shirik | thta's it |
| 03:41.48 | kullervo | hmm? I actually have that installed but haven't found the option |
| 03:41.54 | kullervo | it's... pretty stupid to configure |
| 03:42.42 | Neffi_ | Sintacks: D: |
| 03:42.47 | Shirik | I'm not sure it's actually in there |
| 03:42.51 | Shirik | I'm just saying I bet it could |
| 03:44.32 | Neffi_ | Is cancelling a buff protected now? |
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| 03:51.01 | karl_w_w | it's quite odd, I've been contemplating nas purchases for a few months now and at the same time everybody seems to be trying to sell nas |
| 03:53.17 | Thunder_Child | I meh'd at the amazon one today |
| 03:55.30 | karl_w_w | I think I'm subconciously waiting for the next bundle offer from my nearby bargain-basement store |
| 03:55.33 | Shirik | national airspace? |
| 03:55.43 | karl_w_w | absolutely |
| 03:55.51 | Shirik | I don't think you can buy that |
| 03:56.31 | Neffi | does anyone else find this propag---- err, marketing video extremely creepy? http://youtu.be/SnUUXoFsjoY |
| 03:58.00 | Shirik | I love it |
| 04:01.26 | Shirik | of course |
| 04:01.35 | Shirik | this comes from someone who's basically inventing skynet right now |
| 04:01.37 | Shirik | so |
| 04:01.48 | Shirik | maybe you shouldn't take my opinion directly |
| 04:05.33 | Neffi | don't do that Shirik D: |
| 04:07.12 | kd3 | what the hell? (keep scrolling down) http://www.sewingandembroiderywarehouse.com/embtrb.htm |
| 04:09.55 | karl_w_w | hahaha wtf |
| 04:15.17 | kd3 | apparently it's been this way for a decade: http://web.archive.org/web/20040608010343/http://www.sewingandembroiderywarehouse.com/embtrb.htm |
| 04:20.53 | Neffi | everything's nested deeply w/ size of 1.5em |
| 04:20.58 | Neffi | so it's compounding itself |
| 04:21.16 | Neffi | They probably had no idea wtf was doing it |
| 04:21.36 | kd3 | it "works" in ie8 |
| 04:22.14 | kd3 | largely because ie<9 had fixed sizes for h3s rather than relative |
| 04:25.59 | Shirik | wtf |
| 04:26.32 | Shirik | I feel like this should crash my browser |
| 04:26.55 | kd3 | someone in the reddit thread complained that it broke x after scrolling down far enough |
| 04:26.57 | zmuser3 | I sent that sewing thing to my girlfriend on facebook adn got her to look at it. I started cracking up and now she is mad at me because I can't explain what is so funny about it |
| 04:38.06 | karl_w_w | women |
| 04:41.33 | Shirik | so |
| 04:41.35 | Shirik | the last line |
| 04:41.38 | Shirik | gets to 8000px font |
| 04:42.43 | karl_w_w | that igzo thing looks like the start of a movie like irobot |
| 04:42.56 | karl_w_w | also looks pretty cool |
| 04:43.10 | karl_w_w | I personally welcome our new igzo overlords |
| 04:44.16 | karl_w_w | I also liked the part where they said it'd be the first semiconductor that changes the world |
| 04:45.07 | karl_w_w | pretty amazing that people who know nothing about semiconductors could develop a new one :P |
| 04:45.35 | Neffi | lol |
| 04:47.40 | Arrowmaster | damnit amazon, im just now getting the shipping notification for RoS |
| 04:51.47 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: what is the current proper way of managing wifi networks on linux? |
| 04:52.07 | Arrowmaster | network manager? |
| 04:52.25 | jleclanche | i dunno, nm has been replaced by this and that and then the other |
| 04:52.37 | Arrowmaster | it has? |
| 04:52.51 | jleclanche | on arch anyway. by netctl, and then netctl was replaced by something else |
| 04:52.58 | jleclanche | and then i heard network manager was once again the better way |
| 04:53.10 | Arrowmaster | just using nm here on debian |
| 04:53.36 | jleclanche | mmh |
| 04:55.20 | Jamash | I used wicd for a while |
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| 05:29.31 | Shirik | anyone here have experience setting up a mumble server? because I'm about to kick it in its face |
| 05:35.02 | Mr_Rabies | i use mumbleboxes |
| 05:35.30 | Mr_Rabies | it's run by tecnobrat that used to work for wowhead/zam/whatever |
| 05:35.54 | Mr_Rabies | i tried setting one up on ubuntu server a while back and it hurt my brane |
| 05:46.33 | Shirik | I have determined that the init scripts for murmur (mumble server) don't actually work |
| 05:53.47 | jleclanche | Shirik: distro? |
| 05:53.53 | Shirik | gentoo |
| 05:54.03 | jleclanche | Shirik: systemd or initrc? |
| 05:54.08 | Shirik | initrc |
| 05:54.25 | jleclanche | you're most likely fucked. |
| 05:54.28 | Shirik | lol |
| 05:54.29 | jleclanche | try running the init commands yourself |
| 05:54.31 | Shirik | I mean I solved it |
| 05:54.38 | Shirik | I found out the daemon was running still and killed it |
| 05:54.43 | Shirik | the start command works, the stop doesn't |
| 05:54.49 | jleclanche | yeah thats initrc for you |
| 05:55.04 | jleclanche | WE DONT NEED SYSTEMD GUYS. |
| 05:55.23 | Shirik | I have a new hatred for mumble though |
| 05:55.29 | Shirik | the push to talk sound is so fucking loud |
| 05:55.44 | jleclanche | mumble has its issues. mostly minor stuff |
| 05:57.12 | jleclanche | So I discovered psqlrc today. productivity temporarily gone out of the window while I tweak the crap out of it. |
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| 09:23.01 | karl_w_w | is it NA maintenance time? |
| 09:24.09 | karl_w_w | apparently not, it just doesn't want to connect for me |
| 09:32.29 | karl_w_w | stupid australian internet not working again, probably cos it's windy or something stupid like that |
| 09:38.44 | karl_w_w | ookay everything spontaneously started working again |
| 09:38.47 | karl_w_w | thanks tony |
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| 11:49.39 | karl_w_w | google switched the placement of Images and Maps at the top of the results page |
| 11:49.48 | karl_w_w | just to confuse everybody |
| 11:51.25 | rid_ | hi karl_w_w |
| 11:51.33 | rid_ | you seem mad |
| 11:51.35 | rid_ | :< |
| 11:51.48 | karl_w_w | I am mad |
| 11:51.53 | karl_w_w | how does that make you feel? |
| 11:52.10 | rid_ | sad |
| 11:52.12 | rid_ | :( |
| 11:52.15 | rid_ | want me to be sad? |
| 11:52.39 | karl_w_w | sure |
| 11:53.09 | rid_ | :( |
| 11:53.12 | rid_ | rude |
| 11:53.24 | karl_w_w | you seem mad |
| 11:53.32 | rid_ | I am |
| 11:54.08 | karl_w_w | I see |
| 11:55.55 | karl_w_w | this is an alraming development |
| 12:35.13 | phelps | does that poc dynamic macro addon still work ? |
| 12:35.44 | phelps | prometheus or something like that |
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| 12:49.30 | karl_w_w | it doesnt seem to phelps |
| 12:49.44 | karl_w_w | it sort of works so I don't know if it's repairable |
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| 14:45.39 | karl_w_w | so here's a question, if I get a nas system I only need about 4gb for now, so do I buy a 2 bay with 2x2gb and replace them both at a later date or do I buy a 4 bay with 2x2gb and add more drives later |
| 14:47.28 | solocommand | Go with the 4. I bought a 2, scrapped it and built a media/file server for more disk space. |
| 14:48.00 | Kalroth | The latter for sure, but do also consider running raid 1 |
| 14:50.31 | TC-Work | uh, TB or GB? |
| 14:50.59 | TC-Work | 2gb drive seems rather tiny |
| 14:51.24 | TC-Work | Price wise, I think it's more cost efficient to get 3T drives instead of 2T. |
| 14:52.04 | Kalroth | dont you be judging him for wanting a 2x2GB setup |
| 14:52.22 | TC-Work | no no, I am indeed judging him. |
| 14:52.30 | TC-Work | and he is fairing poorly |
| 14:52.30 | Unkle | Don't you be judging him for judging. |
| 14:52.43 | Kalroth | i wonder if you could run raid 1 on two 2GB usb flash drives |
| 14:53.00 | Kalroth | that'd be very safe and very slow! |
| 14:53.27 | Kalroth | And you're right about 3TB over 2TB, but it's still a bigger investment |
| 14:53.39 | TC-Work | Since they had the 1TB flash drive now, I was wondering what the R/W speed would be of an array of 20 or so. |
| 14:53.46 | karl_w_w | yeah, TB not GB :P |
| 14:54.59 | Unkle | I don't know... a raid array of large capacity flash drives for large, infrequently used, but needed at a moment's notice, files might be a fun project. |
| 14:55.01 | karl_w_w | maybe I'll get a 6 bay and go 6 x 1tb SSDs :P |
| 14:55.01 | Kalroth | you should look into this as a home NAS: http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/poweredge-r920/pd |
| 14:55.01 | TC-Work | Not by much |
| 14:55.07 | Kalroth | it'll expand easily too! |
| 14:55.44 | TC-Work | 10K is a bit much |
| 14:55.52 | Kalroth | but you save 3k |
| 14:56.10 | TC-Work | I could be saving 100K, it's still a bit much |
| 14:56.24 | Kalroth | you say that now, but can you account for the future |
| 14:56.43 | Kalroth | 2x Intel® Xeon® E7-8893 v2 Processor 3.4GHz, 37.5M Cache, 8.0 GT/s QPI, Turbo, 6 Core, 155W [add $11,379.39] |
| 14:56.45 | Kalroth | nice! |
| 14:56.49 | karl_w_w | only $235 per month |
| 14:56.55 | solocommand | I bought 3TB WD Red drives, I think they were around $100/$150/ea |
| 14:57.53 | nevcairiel | Kalroth: if its actually for two of the cpus, its not too bad of a price, the intel retail price is ~$6800 for one :P |
| 14:58.19 | Kalroth | hahah |
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| 15:00.05 | Unkle | Do it on the cheap - http://www.solid-run.com/cubox - and just use software to build the raid array from inexpensive 3TB USB disks. |
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| 15:02.00 | Kalroth | I'd just grab a cheap Synology or QNAP 4-bay box, great value for money really |
| 15:03.07 | Unkle | I wasn't entirely serious. But that might also be a fun project. |
| 15:04.02 | karl_w_w | running multiple hard drives over usb 2.0 doesn't seem optimal :P |
| 15:04.31 | Unkle | No, but in a "I did it because I could" sort of way, it might be satisfying. |
| 15:05.09 | Dagmar | pI find the idea of storing upwards of 3Tb over USB 2.0 to be hilarious |
| 15:05.44 | karl_w_w | i have a 2TB external usb 2.0 drive |
| 15:05.50 | karl_w_w | I can tell you there is no hilarity |
| 15:05.59 | karl_w_w | just lots of patience |
| 15:06.05 | Dagmar | I'm glad I bought a USB 3.0 drive |
| 15:06.22 | karl_w_w | i got it before 3.0 was a thing |
| 15:06.27 | Kalroth | Unkle: http://www.cad.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~shun/etc/photo/usb_hub_04.jpg a 31 flash drive raid setup! |
| 15:06.43 | Kalroth | (there's another side to it) |
| 15:06.45 | pompy | http://mashable.com/2014/03/25/ebook-readers-awake-to-amazon-credits-thanks-to-settlement/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link |
| 15:07.03 | Unkle | Kalroth: LULZ |
| 15:07.25 | Kalroth | and make it raid 0 for maximum speed |
| 15:22.23 | Fisker | tackles Lopeppeppy |
| 15:22.38 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, Fisker. What's for lunch? |
| 15:22.48 | Fisker | trout |
| 15:22.51 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:24.38 | TC-Work | At least the prices are getting better. The cost of a 4-bay nas that could handle 4TB drives even a year ago, was ~$500 |
| 15:25.25 | TC-Work | now it's ~$300, which while better, is still quite a bit for an enclosure and a raid card. |
| 15:33.48 | Dagmar | Cheaper to just build one |
| 15:34.50 | karl_w_w | that's true of most things in life |
| 15:41.16 | Dagmar | Speaking of which, I wish these people who are selling old Dells actually knew to mention if they were SFF or CFF cases |
| 15:41.41 | airtonix | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1732348/regex-match-open-tags-except-xhtml-self-contained-tags/1732454#1732454 |
| 15:41.56 | Dagmar | It's obnoxious to have to email these people and explain to them "DO YOU HAVE THE TINY, SMALL, MEDIUM, OR LARGE MODEL?" |
| 15:42.07 | airtonix | my penis is extra large |
| 15:42.25 | Dagmar | I want the one I can shove two low-profile NICs into. |
| 15:42.31 | airtonix | how dare you confine me to your limited view of the world |
| 15:42.33 | Dagmar | Have fun with that mental image. |
| 15:43.40 | airtonix | Kalroth: lol raid |
| 15:43.47 | airtonix | how quaint |
| 15:48.40 | karl_w_w | I have an old dell I can sell you Dagmar |
| 15:48.46 | karl_w_w | no hard drive |
| 15:48.55 | karl_w_w | I have no idea what the case is :P |
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| 16:11.02 | Lopeppeppy | Trout and mac and cheese. Yum. |
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| 16:31.48 | TC-Work | Damnit Peppy, Now I want a tuna casserole again. |
| 16:35.00 | Unkle | ... eww. Fish, noodles and cream sauce with cheese. Way to ruin perfectly good cheese. |
| 16:36.19 | karl_w_w | I agree with Unkle |
| 16:36.37 | karl_w_w | apart from him called pasta noodles |
| 16:41.48 | Shirik | lolwat |
| 16:41.50 | Shirik | "Good news! You are entitled to a credit of $1.46 for some of your past Kindle book purchases. The credit results from legal settlements reached with publishers Hachette, HarperCollins, Simon & Schuster, Macmillan, and Penguin in antitrust lawsuits filed by State Attorneys General and Class Plaintiffs about the price of eBooks." |
| 16:42.07 | Ackis | grats! |
| 16:42.09 | Shirik | so much money |
| 16:42.42 | Shirik | I wonder how much it cost them to do that lol |
| 16:43.49 | Dagmar | Oh I wouldn't worry too much. I'm sure the lawyers made a tidy profit. |
| 16:43.55 | VIad | any suggestions how to approach writing feedback on poor coding habits - professionally? |
| 16:44.04 | Dagmar | After all, there was some money left over to actually give people. |
| 16:44.28 | VIad | don't want to be mean but it's really horrible :p |
| 16:44.33 | Dagmar | VIad: I suppose you could try "Do you want to be on Risks-L? Because that's how you get on Risks-L." |
| 16:45.22 | Dagmar | Probably easier to focus on how much of their own irreplaceable time they'll spend undoing the results of a few moments of indiscretion. |
| 16:47.16 | VIad | I think I will focus on the structure and variable declaration and how they made it so that it's nearly impossible to effectively expand upon without rewriting it all :P |
| 16:47.50 | VIad | all the variables are globals on top and every single purpose has its own function, and the code inside repeats |
| 16:48.20 | VIad | 10 functions can have 4 lines of code that is identical, instead of making a function and calling it when you need to do those 4 lines of code on different places |
| 16:49.10 | Shirik | VIad: I once concived a language designed to make code reuse as hard as possible |
| 16:49.19 | VIad | :p |
| 16:49.31 | VIad | they might have used your language then |
| 16:50.40 | Unkle | Shirik: Because you hate yourself and everyone else in the world? |
| 16:50.47 | Shirik | my favorite part was the one-to-one goto mapping |
| 16:50.54 | Shirik | every goto mapped to a label |
| 16:50.59 | Shirik | and that label could only be referenced by one goto |
| 16:51.14 | Shirik | labels were "gofrom" |
| 16:51.24 | Unkle | Now *I* hate you. |
| 16:51.27 | Shirik | lol |
| 16:52.17 | Shirik | but look at the bright side |
| 16:52.27 | Shirik | because the compiler can conclusively prove where it's coming from, it can make additional optimizations! |
| 16:53.53 | VIad | love it |
| 16:54.23 | TC-Work | Shirik: Come Here. |
| 16:54.43 | Unkle | Step into this giant meat grinder. Thank you. |
| 16:55.12 | TC-Work | No, I meant the language |
| 16:55.32 | TC-Work | http://wwwep.stewartsplace.org.uk/languages/comehere/ |
| 16:56.38 | Shirik | WTF |
| 16:56.41 | Shirik | NOOOOOO |
| 16:56.53 | Shirik | oh well it's not quite the same |
| 16:57.00 | Shirik | it doesn't offer the safety my code offers |
| 16:57.33 | Shirik | because you have to have a goto and gofrom statement, it checks to ensure that your code has both ends matching |
| 16:59.20 | TC-Work | This conversation is just going to end up with Shirik trying to write something in Malbolge, so we might as well just skip to the end. |
| 17:00.05 | Dagmar | WTF is that |
| 17:00.10 | Dagmar | Reverse polish stupidity/ |
| 17:00.57 | Dagmar | Renaming 'goto' to 'come from' and making it work backwards is very possibly one of the few ways one can make that any worse. |
| 17:01.43 | Dagmar | I'm seeing lines numbered 10, 11, 9 _in that order_ and thinking someone's due for a few lashes at the post |
| 17:04.08 | TC-Work | Dagmar: Would you rather do it in multiple dimensions? |
| 17:05.19 | VIad | Shirik: don't get sad, but someone will say negative things about your code now - if someone already hasn't :o |
| 17:06.22 | Arrowmaster | what the fuck |
| 17:06.25 | Arrowmaster | its snowing again |
| 17:06.26 | pompy | Wish Mashable didnt use that tripleclick crap!.. abp blocks it in FF, but it shows in IE bc i guess theres nothing to block it! |
| 17:06.36 | pompy | and Shirik, anyway, http://mashable.com/2014/03/25/ebook-readers-awake-to-amazon-credits-thanks-to-settlement related article |
| 17:06.42 | pompy | and Arrowmaster, yeah, its heading my way tonight, grr |
| 17:06.49 | pompy | keep it there please |
| 17:07.33 | Neffi | ^ |
| 17:07.58 | zz_Cidan | move to socal |
| 17:08.11 | Arrowmaster | jleclanche: you wouldnt happen to know of a trick or script to convert a bunch of files to sparse files individually? i could write my own but i dont want to deal with debugging it since i havent written a shell script in forever |
| 17:08.26 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: what do you mean? |
| 17:09.23 | Arrowmaster | cp --sparse=always input.file output.file but i need to run it on a big dir without a lot of freespace |
| 17:09.56 | Arrowmaster | so i guess i could write a script to cp the file delete the old then move the new back to the old name |
| 17:10.58 | pompy | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=634801229903189&set=a.133197436730240.23875.110938085622842&type=1&theater awesome picture of the surface of Mars! |
| 17:11.10 | pompy | https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t31.0-8/1899789_634801229903189_284363668_o.png |
| 17:21.45 | pompy | Fucking DHL, lol... guess the benefit of living in a state where the company has a distro center means the product will still go out of state in it's shipping travels, http://www.newegg.com/Info/TrackOrder.aspx?TrackingNumber=4200805092748901015478100003899687&type=4 makes no sense! |
| 17:22.59 | nevcairiel | why would a shipping company care which state stuff is in, also it seems like they gave it to USPS |
| 17:23.51 | pompy | yeah |
| 17:23.57 | pompy | they have a partnership with USPS |
| 17:24.22 | Dagmar | The "DHL Handoff". Heh |
| 17:24.37 | Neffi | It's because NJ. Your package is trying to flee the state |
| 17:24.39 | pompy | no i live in NJ nevcairiel, and newegg has a distro center in NJ as well, so it just is weird that it goes to a facility out of state when theres plenty in this state! |
| 17:24.44 | pompy | yeah really Neffi |
| 17:25.08 | nevcairiel | pompy: your first mistake is thinking in states :p |
| 17:25.10 | pompy | from one dhl facility in nj to another in mD |
| 17:25.14 | pompy | ! |
| 17:25.19 | nevcairiel | its a political thing, not a package delivery thing! |
| 17:26.18 | nevcairiel | if you live close to the border of a state, and the next facility is just around the corner, but in the next state, should they not use it?!?! |
| 17:26.44 | pompy | i dont live close to the border of md heh |
| 17:26.50 | pompy | elkridge is 3 hours from me! |
| 17:26.56 | pompy | :P |
| 17:27.07 | nevcairiel | and Secaucus? |
| 17:27.30 | pompy | 1.5 |
| 17:27.31 | pompy | hours |
| 17:27.42 | Arrowmaster | jleclanche: i wrote a script and it seems to work, ill just have to run it with find and make sure to only pass it one file at a time |
| 17:28.26 | nevcairiel | who knows how your US shipping dealys work, i get all my packages from the delivery center just north of here |
| 17:30.05 | Arrowmaster | it used to be that i think it was fedex only had one main distribute center so every package would go through that state |
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| 17:36.23 | Shirik | nevcairiel: that's typically how it works here too |
| 17:36.47 | Shirik | with the exception of heavily expedited packages, it usually goes hub to spoke to destination |
| 17:36.56 | Shirik | and the destination has a one-to-one mapping with a spoke |
| 17:37.43 | Shirik | the only strange ones are things like fedex overnight first where it will probably come straight from the hub |
| 17:37.48 | Shirik | and that's also why you end up spending like $150 |
| 17:38.55 | nevcairiel | our country is small, we dont need to "heavily expedite" stuff, i could order from amazon now and have it by noon tomorrow, without even picking expedited shipping |
| 17:39.29 | nevcairiel | ok, noon may be a bit variable, depends on the route of the delivery guy, i could use expedited to guarantee noon :p |
| 17:40.24 | pompy | nevcairiel: http://www.packagemapping.com/?action=track&shipper=dhlglobalmail&tracknum=3232303430067530&uniqueID= maps! |
| 17:40.35 | Shirik | yeah no nevcairiel |
| 17:40.49 | Shirik | around here, 2 days is nice, and ground shipping can get up to like 5 days |
| 17:42.18 | Shirik | http://www.fedex.com/templates/components/apps/wgsm/images/outbound/p915u.png |
| 17:42.27 | Shirik | starting from California, each color is an additional day |
| 17:43.05 | Shirik | interesting sidenote: there is ground service from California to Hawaiii |
| 17:43.21 | nevcairiel | thats because california is probably bigger than germany |
| 17:43.29 | pompy | lol |
| 17:44.13 | nevcairiel | yes it is |
| 17:44.28 | pompy | nevcairiel: only by about 30k sq mi |
| 17:45.13 | pompy | cali is 164k and germany is 137k! |
| 17:47.56 | pompy | http://www.hawaiithreads.com/archive/index.php/t-6299.html old and UPS, but yeah. |
| 17:55.10 | pompy | dafuq nvidia https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/1148739_10152320079655421_829292639_n.png |
| 17:56.58 | nevcairiel | i'll take 2 and SLI them, but i'll need to build my own powerplant to do it, i'm sure |
| 17:57.39 | pompy | yeah for real. |
| 17:58.25 | pompy | $3k lol |
| 17:59.04 | nevcairiel | that card is not targeted at gamers |
| 17:59.09 | nevcairiel | even if some will be stupid enough to buy one |
| 17:59.25 | pompy | industry i guess |
| 17:59.41 | nevcairiel | its still *much* cheaper than tesla cards |
| 18:02.02 | Neffi | Yeah, the Titan seemed to be pretty popular for compute and actual work |
| 18:02.15 | Neffi | Brigade's doing all their work on dual Titans |
| 18:02.45 | pompy | nevcairiel: but then according to nvidia on their blog "So if you want to build the ultimate ultra-high definition gaming rig that can harness the power of quad GPUs working in tandem, TITAN Z is the perfect graphics card. - See more at: http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2014/03/25/titan-z/#sthash.CzbXjYHd.dpuf" |
| 18:02.53 | pompy | crazy. |
| 18:03.12 | nevcairiel | gotta hook those crazies |
| 18:03.18 | nevcairiel | but the real market is not gamers |
| 18:03.20 | pompy | indeed. |
| 18:03.22 | pompy | i agree |
| 18:03.23 | Neffi | Well of course some crazy gamers are going to buy it. There's a niche of people who are rich and convinced they need the most powerful thing under the sun |
| 18:03.26 | nevcairiel | its people doing compute work but can't afford tesla |
| 18:04.25 | pompy | if i win the mega millions, ill grab a few! |
| 18:04.27 | Neffi | Hell, there's still people that build dual Xeon rigs *for gaming* just because it's a huge step up in price from just buying a conventional chip |
| 18:04.52 | nevcairiel | they should buy quad cpu systems, the cpus for that cost like 7000 alone |
| 18:05.03 | Neffi | but no SLI boards |
| 18:05.48 | Neffi | "yo this nugga's got 4 gpus and 2 cpus and 128 gb of ram. it shits on your measly $3000 gaming desktop" "but mine plays the same game at the same settings at 60 fps" "lol bro look at da benchmarkz" |
| 18:06.38 | pompy | benchmarks are rigged! |
| 18:07.24 | Neffi | Synthetic benchmarks don't matter, and Tech Report did a great investigation as to why FPS is a shitty way to measure real-world performance of games |
| 18:07.42 | Neffi | A single GPU might have less peak performance, but smoother motion quality |
| 18:08.24 | nevcairiel | there are benchmarks now for the frame spacing, which can measure how smooth it is |
| 18:08.28 | nevcairiel | especially with dual gpu |
| 18:08.49 | nevcairiel | since this was a huge issue for a long time |
| 18:08.52 | nevcairiel | well kidna is for amd |
| 18:08.55 | nevcairiel | nvidia has it solved mostly |
| 18:09.12 | Neffi | I can't remember if it's AMD or NVidia, but I believe there's now a low-level, in-driver tool for measuring frame times accurately, so yes now benchmarks can be done *properly* but the vast majority of people and review sites still measure by max/avg/min FPS |
| 18:09.51 | nevcairiel | AMD produced the tool initially, which was kinda ironic since they suck at it so much |
| 18:09.59 | Neffi | In fact I think Tech Report is the only site that benchmarks by frame time, and does so rigorously |
| 18:10.30 | nevcairiel | anadtech also had tests using SLI/CrossFire frame pacing in the past |
| 18:10.56 | Neffi | I dunno what all the fuss is about though. I just want a GPU that can run modern games, on ultra, at 60 FPS, at 1080p. You hit a point where more hardware doesn't give you returns for that resolution |
| 18:11.16 | nevcairiel | some people dont run 1080p anymore |
| 18:11.22 | Neffi | Unless you want like 64x AA or some stupid shit |
| 18:11.44 | nevcairiel | the difference between 1080p and 1600p can be quite large in performance |
| 18:11.51 | Neffi | Oh, yeah |
| 18:12.01 | nevcairiel | and my gaming s creen is 1600p :p |
| 18:12.36 | Neffi | I get it if you run a high res screen, but people still throw massive hardware at the problem, like returns don't diminish |
| 18:12.54 | Semlar | returns neffi |
| 18:13.16 | Neffi | Also on a side note, I won't have any desire for high res screens until toolkit maintainers can figure out how to elegantly scale to DPI |
| 18:13.31 | Neffi | Semlar: D: |
| 18:14.15 | nevcairiel | my screen isnt only higher res, also higher size |
| 18:14.19 | nevcairiel | so its not a problem :P |
| 18:14.41 | nevcairiel | i agree that high-dpi support is still bad |
| 18:15.37 | Neffi | "Bad" is being generous. ;) I don't know that I can run with a screen larger than 24". Makes me feel disorganized to have so much space |
| 18:16.00 | Neffi | Although right now I'm running with 19" and it's painful if I want to do side-by-side stuff |
| 18:17.13 | Dagmar | Fuck worrying about "too much" space |
| 18:18.03 | Dagmar | I run a pair of 24"s at home and sometimes I still need the extra space of my 10" tablet |
| 18:18.33 | Neffi | Doing what? Graphics? Very large code projects? |
| 18:18.53 | Dagmar | Hacking |
| 18:19.14 | Neffi | oh god ur a hacker. im rpeorting you 2 fox news |
| 18:19.24 | Dagmar | When you've no idea what you're looking at to start with, it takes a lot of research and a lot of parallelism to get progress |
| 18:25.57 | TC-Work | http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2014/03/25/titan-z/ |
| 18:28.24 | pompy | TC-Work: already posted :P |
| 18:28.48 | TC-Work | My link is better than your link pompy |
| 18:28.56 | pompy | pshh! |
| 18:28.59 | pompy | you gonna get it!? |
| 18:29.09 | TC-Work | I didn't see a price |
| 18:34.32 | Dagmar | If you have to ask, you can't afford it. |
| 18:34.56 | TC-Work | Hardly |
| 18:35.09 | Arrowmaster | jleclanche: my script finally finished running and freed up 61GB by converting files to sparse files |
| 18:35.20 | Dagmar | They used the word "supercomputer" in describing it |
| 18:35.58 | Dagmar | ...they also used the word "desperate" to describe potential buyers. |
| 18:36.42 | Dagmar | I'm thinking that thing is going to run somewhere between $800-1000 |
| 18:41.11 | TC-Work | I suspect I would get a second 780 and sli. |
| 18:43.14 | Dagmar | I should tap one of my guys to see if they're getting any of those in |
| 18:43.39 | pompy | TC-Work: its speculated to be $3k |
| 18:43.45 | Dagmar | They're using a *lot* of CUDA now |
| 18:45.09 | Neffi | 2880*2 cores? That's two 780 Ti's worth. And much more RAM than that. It'll at *least* be twice the price of a 780 Ti, probably more |
| 18:45.15 | Neffi | No way this is under $1000 |
| 18:49.14 | Dagmar | We'll see if they even pretend to sell it to normal gamers |
| 18:49.47 | pompy | well look what they said ending their blog post lol |
| 18:50.09 | Dagmar | "Prepare thine assholes"? |
| 18:51.18 | pompy | indeed |
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| 18:51.36 | pompy | well not really for a "normal" gamer i suppose, but yeah "So if you want to build the ultimate ultra-high definition gaming rig that can harness the power of quad GPUs working in tandem, TITAN Z is the perfect graphics card." |
| 18:52.23 | Dagmar | The real question will be whether or not it supports dogecoin mining |
| 18:54.47 | Neffi | much compute. many profit. wow |
| 18:55.24 | Dagmar | It would only need to mine like 5-6 BTC before paying for itself |
| 18:55.25 | pompy | onboard detectors to prevent that stuff! |
| 18:55.27 | pompy | no idea |
| 18:55.54 | Neffi | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/03/nvidia-and-ibm-create-gpu-interconnect-for-faster-supercomputing/ |
| 18:59.03 | nevcairiel | Neffi: the titan Z is $3k |
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| 19:27.08 | pompy | huh https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/l/t1.0-9/1977390_10152016463095267_1337416047_n.jpg |
| 19:36.48 | Semlar | looks like a j1939 cable |
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| 20:04.17 | pompy | http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/25/justice/virginia-navy-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 what the hell |
| 20:06.53 | Dagmar | Someone's getting fired is what |
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| 20:08.52 | pompy | http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/4-alarm-fire-burns-near-downtown-Houston-5347617.php woah. |
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| 20:24.15 | Sintacks | http://i.imgur.com/O7Dn9rP.png |
| 20:39.06 | Unkle | Are you ready to be reaped? |
| 20:40.07 | TC-Work | I am |
| 20:42.51 | Unkle | You cannot stop death. |
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| 20:50.36 | TC-Work | Yes you can, with more death! |
| 20:52.41 | Dashkal | Death stops death perfectly well |
| 20:53.55 | Unkle | GO! Find ... the nephalim! |
| 20:54.20 | TC-Work | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S6QTHwYTLI |
| 20:54.31 | TC-Work | Watch that only after seeing the cinematic |
| 20:54.33 | Unkle | Damn it. |
| 20:54.44 | Unkle | I was just about to link that. |
| 20:55.10 | TC-Work | Hah! |
| 20:56.40 | Unkle | Spent too much time playing Act V last night. |
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| 20:57.42 | TC-Work | Same |
| 20:57.48 | TC-Work | Only got to 64 |
| 20:58.10 | TC-Work | On the other hand I did manage to make myself sad by getting a weapon that was 30% within 15 min. |
| 20:58.16 | TC-Work | 30% more dmg. |
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| 20:58.28 | Unkle | http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Unkle-1177/hero/2091791 |
| 20:58.29 | Dagmar | I like how he dropped money |
| 20:59.28 | Unkle | I laughed at Tyrel rummaging through the loot. |
| 20:59.47 | TC-Work | http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ThunderChild-1941/hero/8366822 |
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| 22:00.56 | Neffi | woah, wtf http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/03/facebook-purchases-vr-headset-maker-oculus-for-2-billion/ |
| 22:01.12 | Neffi | I seriously had to check if it was April 1st already |
| 22:02.54 | nevcairiel | makes me sad, stupid facebook getting their privacy-abondoning fingers onto everything |
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| 22:08.47 | kd3|hate`net | wait, what? facebook bought oculus? |
| 22:08.54 | TC-Work | Yup |
| 22:09.01 | TC-Work | Not sure I want one anymore |
| 22:10.05 | TC-Work | It's going to turn into the metaverse from snow crash |
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| 22:10.43 | Neffi | At least we have competition |
| 22:10.50 | Neffi | Sony vs Facebook, pick your VR poison |
| 22:11.02 | nevcairiel | the sony thing is rather inferior though |
| 22:11.16 | nevcairiel | today at least |
| 22:11.20 | Neffi | Inferior vs VR ad platform |
| 22:11.54 | nevcairiel | oculus was after making a good product and bringing the future of VR to us, while sony is of course only out to make money |
| 22:11.57 | Neffi | That or Facebook is gonna leave it alone, and just wanted to buy Carmack |
| 22:12.16 | kd3 | facebook? leave a purchase alone? hahahahahahah |
| 22:12.37 | nevcairiel | i'm quite sure they'll ruin it somehow |
| 22:12.48 | nevcairiel | but who can say no to $2b |
| 22:13.15 | Neffi | Who? What's that one thing that turned down more than that... |
| 22:14.14 | zmuser3 | snapchat |
| 22:14.26 | zmuser3 | er whatsapp |
| 22:14.54 | Neffi | one of those things I don't care about |
| 22:15.35 | nevcairiel | snapchat refused facebook |
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| 22:16.56 | Neffi | Yeah. FB offered them $3B, then Google offered them $4B. Turned down both |
| 22:19.20 | Dashkal | sighs |
| 22:19.26 | Dashkal | I wanted an OCR. I really did. |
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| 22:36.21 | zenzelezz | so John Carmack now works at Facebook? |
| 22:38.52 | zmuser3 | doesn't he make games like farmville |
| 22:39.51 | zmuser3 | I am thinking romero. carmack is the autistic one |
| 22:48.24 | karl_w_w | carmack is on oculus rift |
| 22:48.47 | Neffi | <zmuser3> I am thinking romero. carmack is the autistic one <- lol? |
| 22:49.07 | Neffi | he's the cofounder of iD |
| 22:49.15 | Neffi | Or id or whatever |
| 22:49.26 | nevcairiel | he is slightly autistic though |
| 22:49.42 | nevcairiel | not that he lets that stop him from being awesome |
| 22:49.50 | Neffi | Why would it? |
| 22:53.01 | Gnarfoz | Carmack is a bit like the djb of video games |
| 22:53.49 | zenzelezz | djb? |
| 22:54.09 | zenzelezz | karl_w_w: seeing how Facebook bought Oculus, he's essentially with them |
| 22:54.23 | zenzelezz | not sure if it's technically accurate |
| 22:54.50 | karl_w_w | oh no |
| 22:54.54 | karl_w_w | ffs |
| 22:55.09 | Gnarfoz | it's about as accurate as Chris Metzen being a Activision Blizzard employee |
| 22:55.14 | karl_w_w | all my oculus rift-related hopes have been crushed |
| 22:55.43 | zenzelezz | I'm sure it'll be fine. Now you can watch your 3D porn with integrated friends list! |
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