| 00:04.29 | Gethe | to my knowledge there aren't any restrictions on what types of frames can be put inside of another. |
| 00:07.07 | Gethe | the hierarchy you see on that page is not how they should be layed out, but how the attributes and methods from one are inherited to its children |
| 00:09.59 | relaxok | if you were thinking of a logical tree here, is there really any difference between an element and a frame? can they just all elements and some elements have other elements inside them? |
| 00:10.09 | relaxok | just all be elements* |
| 00:11.32 | relaxok | since by default anchors are to the parent, as long as there are anchors, stuff will move around with the parent "frame" |
| 00:12.04 | Gethe | all frames are elements, but not all elements are frames. textures, fontStrings, etc are not frames, but are elements |
| 00:12.30 | relaxok | sure but do frames have anything that elements don't, if you were to allow an element to contain other elements |
| 00:12.32 | relaxok | ? |
| 00:13.39 | relaxok | sorry, this is a bit confusing to talk about |
| 00:16.23 | nevcairiel | that depends what you are interested in. everything in the UI is an UIObject, everything you can see on the screen is a Region, and among the Regions there is the big subgroup of Frames, which is the smallest self-contained unit, and the LayeredRegions, which are only a representaiton of a rendering process (like a Texture), but not somthing "solid" |
| 00:18.39 | nevcairiel | in the XML, only Frames can have child-frames, and frames can also have child-elements like Textures, but AFAIK a Texture cannot have other child-elements in itself |
| 00:18.56 | relaxok | nevcairiel: i am writing a whole (not WoW) UI system and parsing the framexml folder as an example of what features to support with it.. but im not coming at it from the perspective of an addon writer who knows tons about it, just as someone who has played it a lot. |
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| 00:26.55 | Gethe | also, every XML tag eg. <...> is an element, but there are widget elements aka UIObjects that are the things yu see and manipulate to construct the UI eg. <Frame>, <Button>, <Texture>, etc. there are also property elements that determin what the widgets look like eg. <Ancher>, <Size>, <TexCoords>, etc. |
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| 00:49.00 | Krevan88 | So can someone help me decode this bug from my addon i am working on? http://pastebin.com/4ykYxzXP |
| 00:49.46 | Semlar | "tooltipHook" doesn't exist from where you're referencing it |
| 00:51.00 | Krevan88 | okay... so i dont know what im supposed to use then |
| 00:51.37 | Semlar | me neither |
| 00:52.13 | Neffi | use Semlar |
| 00:52.18 | Semlar | no neffi |
| 00:52.23 | Neffi | :\ |
| 00:52.24 | Krevan88 | hm... now i got a new error |
| 00:52.29 | Semlar | ah, progress |
| 00:53.07 | Krevan88 | http://pastebin.com/S3Y3fTVp |
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| 00:53.27 | Semlar | the error doesn't tell us anything about the code |
| 00:53.50 | Semlar | we need to see the script |
| 00:53.51 | Neffi | it tells us that he's attemtping to concat a nil value. post the code kre... oh, he left |
| 00:53.56 | Semlar | aw |
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| 00:54.23 | Neffi | Krevan88: post your code |
| 00:54.26 | Krevan88 | hit the wrong button and closed irc |
| 00:54.55 | Krevan88 | http://pastebin.com/0eLwEmSF |
| 00:55.29 | Krevan88 | My addon is supposed to put locations of nodes in the tooltip of herbs/ores. |
| 00:55.36 | Krevan88 | Zone locations not coords. |
| 00:55.45 | Semlar | alright well "id" isn't defined anywhere |
| 00:56.11 | Semlar | so spawnZones[id] is looking up nothing |
| 00:56.26 | Krevan88 | how do i fix that... i thought that was what the top "local" was supposed to be for |
| 00:56.37 | Semlar | neffi help |
| 00:56.45 | Neffi | Krevan88: what is `id`? |
| 00:56.49 | Neffi | in the line spawnZones[id]; ? |
| 00:57.06 | Semlar | it's probably ... from OnTooltipSetItem |
| 00:57.26 | Semlar | nope |
| 00:57.31 | Krevan88 | It's supposed to link to the "spawnZones[2447]" for example, to be able to pull that information to add the info to a tooltip |
| 00:57.43 | Semlar | looks like tooltip:GetItem() gives you the link to it |
| 00:57.44 | Neffi | but you're not pulling that info |
| 00:57.57 | Neffi | you haven't defined `id` |
| 00:58.26 | Krevan88 | not sure how to define that.... :/ trying to make an addon with no prior experience isnt working the way i hoped |
| 00:58.30 | Semlar | i'm assuming he wants to get the link out of the tooltip, strip the item id out of that and look it up in the table |
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| 00:59.26 | Krevan88 | My idea is basically this... sec to write it up |
| 00:59.46 | Semlar | you want to list out the zones that the item is found in |
| 01:00.01 | Krevan88 | Yeah |
| 01:00.05 | Krevan88 | in the tooltip |
| 01:00.28 | Neffi | oh god, tab size f 3 wat |
| 01:01.20 | Semlar | it would be faster for me to write this than explain all of the steps involved |
| 01:01.45 | Semlar | hmm |
| 01:02.42 | Krevan | really? damn |
| 01:02.50 | Krevan | alright ill just scrap the idea then |
| 01:02.53 | Neffi | Krevan: http://codepad.org/lhiG8JcH |
| 01:03.29 | Neffi | the last line that's commented out might be of help. |
| 01:05.23 | Semlar | dammit neffi |
| 01:06.04 | Semlar | you might want to do like zone = id and spawnZones[id] just in case the id doesn't exist |
| 01:06.22 | Neffi | I added "if zone " |
| 01:06.27 | Semlar | i didn't think tables liked you looking up nil values |
| 01:06.39 | Krevan | :O that works...\ |
| 01:06.44 | Neffi | You can look up a nil value. Just can't insert a nil key |
| 01:06.55 | Iriel | Right, lua doesn't like nil TABLE references |
| 01:06.57 | Neffi | > return _G[(nil)] |
| 01:07.01 | Iriel | but it's fine with nil keys |
| 01:07.05 | Neffi | oh yeah luabot is gone |
| 01:07.11 | Iriel | > X = {} |
| 01:07.12 | Iriel | > return X[nil] |
| 01:07.13 | Iriel | nil |
| 01:07.18 | Krevan | now i need to compare and learn what i did wrong |
| 01:07.33 | Semlar | well you were missing a few steps |
| 01:08.02 | zmuser3 | does pairs return keys with nil values? |
| 01:08.03 | Krevan | like i said im brand new to LUA... so i was basically looking at other addons and trying from there |
| 01:08.04 | Semlar | like not actually defining the id before you were trying to look it up in the table |
| 01:08.17 | Semlar | more of a logical problem |
| 01:08.28 | Neffi | zmuser3: No. Tables do not contain nils. Setting an entry to nil deletes it |
| 01:08.35 | zmuser3 | ok |
| 01:08.39 | Krevan | So, how do I define the ids? |
| 01:08.49 | Semlar | neffiiiii |
| 01:08.49 | Neffi | Krevan: I defined it. See what I pasted |
| 01:08.54 | Neffi | semlarita |
| 01:09.10 | Semlar | you aren't to use that name in public |
| 01:09.25 | Neffi | ok sowwy |
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| 01:10.32 | zmuser3 | in a for pairs loop is it ok to remove foo[key] ? |
| 01:10.38 | Neffi | Remove, yes |
| 01:10.45 | zmuser3 | ok |
| 01:10.48 | Neffi | But it's not okay to add a new key during pairs or next iteration |
| 01:10.52 | Semlar | also take out that "loaded" message before making this a real addon |
| 01:11.15 | Neffi | It won't error when you add a new key, but the behavior of pairs/next becomes undefined if a new element is added during traversal |
| 01:11.24 | zmuser3 | ok |
| 01:11.49 | Krevan | I just put that loading thing in there to make sure the addon was working. I wasn't getting and LUA errors for a while, then suddenly it was working again. |
| 01:12.01 | Iriel | Read that was "It will error at the least convenient moment if you add a new key during traversal" |
| 01:12.16 | Neffi | haha, true |
| 01:12.36 | Iriel | And that frequently "the least convenient moment" is "not during testing, only after it's launched" |
| 01:13.12 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:13.17 | Krevan | What is the code for coloring in the tooltips? is there a place i can find it? |
| 01:13.41 | Seerah | coloring what? |
| 01:13.45 | Semlar | probably the backdrop |
| 01:14.07 | Krevan | lettering for things... right now the lettering is a lite grey |
| 01:14.12 | Semlar | oh |
| 01:14.16 | Semlar | shows what i know |
| 01:14.21 | Semlar | you literally color it in that code |
| 01:14.37 | Semlar | 0.7, 0.7, 0.7 is grey |
| 01:14.44 | Seerah | You have to go through every line of the tooltip and set the text color to what you want. (Some lines may need their color changed each time the tooltip shows) |
| 01:15.03 | Semlar | what color do you want it to be |
| 01:16.09 | Semlar | it's an rgb triplet |
| 01:16.11 | Krevan | like a red or something |
| 01:16.17 | Neffi | The syntax is r,g,b where each is a number between 0 and 1 |
| 01:16.19 | Semlar | red would be 1, 0, 0 |
| 01:16.23 | Neffi | 1,0,0 would be intensely red |
| 01:16.27 | Semlar | that would be very red |
| 01:16.30 | Neffi | You probably want something like .8,.4,.4 |
| 01:16.35 | Semlar | DON'T TELL ME WHAT I WANT |
| 01:16.36 | Krevan | Oh. I didn't realize that would be what it was... Thanks |
| 01:16.59 | Neffi | Semlar: :( |
| 01:17.03 | Semlar | oh alright |
| 01:17.21 | Seerah | Krevan: fyi, the three values are red, green, blue |
| 01:17.31 | Seerah | bah - I missed Neffi saying that already >< |
| 01:17.42 | Semlar | ahem |
| 01:17.52 | Neffi | lol |
| 01:18.07 | Semlar | i see how it is |
| 01:18.18 | Seerah | that was already out of my screen ;) |
| 01:18.20 | Krevan | Yeah, I just didn't realize it was an RGB base... never seen it marked like that... used to 255 values |
| 01:18.24 | Seerah | ~pat Semlar |
| 01:18.25 | purl | ACTION pats Semlar and says "Nicely Done!" |
| 01:18.29 | Semlar | explodes |
| 01:18.43 | Neffi | Krevan: For convenience, you can do: 255/255, 0/255, 0/255 |
| 01:18.47 | Seerah | Krevan: you can do it like that, too. |
| 01:18.49 | Seerah | ^^ |
| 01:19.00 | Krevan | oh... heck yeah thanks |
| 01:19.04 | Seerah | 255/255 = 1 |
| 01:19.11 | Semlar | to be honest the 255 thing is more confusing to me |
| 01:19.34 | Neffi | Krevan: You can also do inline coloring with |cff, plus a hex code, (and |r to return to normal color). Eg: :SetText("|cffff0000This is red.|r This is the default color.") |
| 01:19.35 | Seerah | fractions <<>> decimals |
| 01:20.01 | Seerah | oh, now you're gonna confuse him hehe |
| 01:20.06 | Neffi | Semlar: byte me |
| 01:20.22 | Dagmar | Hex is just so much easier |
| 01:20.29 | Semlar | i prefer binary |
| 01:20.38 | Neffi | strange man |
| 01:22.19 | Semlar | well, i suppose i have a raid to muddle through |
| 01:22.26 | Neffi | g'luck |
| 01:22.54 | Semlar | CitizenSnaps won't autocast shell shield until he drops below 50% :( |
| 01:23.44 | Semlar | i kinda wish he'd just autocast it as soon as he took aggro |
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| 01:32.47 | Krevan | Another question. Is there a way I can put line breaks in the code, such as <br> does in HTML? |
| 01:33.32 | Seerah | To add a line break in a string, either use /n or use literal strings (they're enclosed by [[ ]] instead of " " ) |
| 01:33.59 | Krevan | Cool. Thanks Seerah. :) |
| 01:37.15 | Neffi | Krevan: Seerah: \n |
| 01:37.26 | Seerah | oops |
| 01:37.33 | Neffi | it happens heh |
| 01:39.33 | Krevan | Thanks too, Neffi |
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| 01:42.01 | Krevan | https://www.dropbox.com/s/gy1vj3nv5krfalc/addon.png YAY! |
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| 01:43.41 | Neffi | Krevan: very good idea |
| 01:44.05 | Neffi | Krevan: also have a thumbs up http://i.imgur.com/vR3QJrF.gif |
| 01:44.54 | Krevan | Thank you, Neffi. You're the one who did everything though. Now I just have to go add all the locations :P |
| 01:45.30 | Neffi | I did like.. 3 things, but yw |
| 01:48.02 | Krevan | Another Question: You know when you type {skull} in chat, it prints the raid marker instead. How would I do that from the addon, because {skull} doesn't load the image, just the word {skull} |
| 01:48.47 | Krevan | nvm figured it out |
| 01:50.11 | Krevan | nope... i didnt after all |
| 01:54.23 | Neffi | SendChatMessage("{skull}") doesn't work? Then the chat frame must handle that somehow |
| 01:54.31 | zmuser3 | how do I check if a table is emtpy? foo == {} ? |
| 01:54.45 | Neffi | zmuser3: next(foo) |
| 01:54.51 | Neffi | zmuser3: Actually, not next(foo) |
| 01:54.59 | zmuser3 | ok |
| 01:55.02 | Neffi | next(foo) will return nil if there's nothing in the table |
| 01:55.49 | Seerah | Krevan: you know how you were told above how to put color into a line of text? |
| 01:56.03 | Seerah | there's also a similar way to put textures there ;) |
| 01:56.59 | Seerah | http://wowpedia.org/UI_escape_sequences |
| 01:57.25 | Neffi | But other users will not see those |
| 01:57.37 | Neffi | That's just for placing an image inside a fontstring on the UI |
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| 01:58.59 | Krevan | Got it. Thanks :D |
| 01:59.21 | Seerah | right. same as with the colors through chat |
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| 02:39.43 | Krevan | Can I specify the size of the tooltip, or am I stuck with default sizes? |
| 02:42.41 | Neffi | :SetHeight, :SetWidth should work |
| 02:42.58 | Neffi | Krevan: But performing a :Show after populating the tooltip with text should auto-size it around the text |
| 02:43.41 | Krevan | Yea, I am just trying to either figure out how to make the text smaller for the locations, or to make the tip wider... |
| 02:44.14 | Neffi | American food is glorious sometimes. Fried w/ cheese & bacon. So good |
| 02:44.19 | Neffi | Fries, rather |
| 02:49.33 | Iriel | Sounds like ruined potato skins |
| 02:49.41 | Krevan | Mmm... Potato Skins... :D |
| 02:49.51 | Krevan | I'm from Idaho. Everything is potatoes here. |
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| 03:26.54 | Semlar | how do the C_LootHistory functions work |
| 03:27.05 | Semlar | do you have to enable something for them to do anything |
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| 03:34.49 | Krevan | Lol I was wondering why my addon wasnt working... i forgot i switched characters and the addon wasnt enabled. :/ |
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| 03:49.15 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: i took a selfie http://imgur.com/CUUlllg |
| 03:49.29 | Cairenn | awwwwww |
| 03:49.32 | Cairenn | puppy! |
| 03:49.38 | Arrowmaster | hes only 6months old |
| 03:49.48 | Cairenn | He's a gorgeous looking boy |
| 03:50.09 | Cairenn | He's gonna be a big boy, too |
| 03:50.13 | Arrowmaster | very |
| 03:50.19 | Cairenn | :) |
| 03:50.29 | Arrowmaster | his legs are bigger around than my arms |
| 03:50.35 | Cairenn | I believe it |
| 03:51.57 | Arrowmaster | and no hes not mine |
| 03:52.58 | Thunder_Child | The puppy is going to be a big boy too. |
| 04:07.11 | Arrowmaster | and apparently i can get a good buzz going from just two strong beers and some time |
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| 04:39.38 | Krevan | Can I make text in the tooltip smaller? |
| 04:48.11 | Neffi | Krevan: You can scale it down with :SetScale |
| 04:48.22 | Neffi | Takes a number between 0 and 1 |
| 04:49.22 | Krevan | How would I impliment it? Do I have to make a custom frame for it? |
| 04:49.28 | Krevan | That's what http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Frame/SetScale says... |
| 04:49.44 | Neffi | No |
| 04:49.54 | Neffi | GameTooltip:SetScale(.8) for instance |
| 04:50.08 | Krevan | Oh. |
| 04:50.13 | Neffi | But the tooltip will stay this size, so it has a side effect |
| 04:50.15 | Krevan | The whole tip scales? :/ |
| 04:50.25 | Krevan | Poop. |
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| 04:50.38 | Neffi | You can change the size of the fontstrings. |
| 04:51.24 | Krevan | I want the added info from the addon to be smaller size than the rest of the info on it. |
| 04:53.52 | Neffi | That's gonna be a bitch to do. You can find the particular fontstring you're populating, scale it down, then when the tooltip hides scale it back up |
| 04:56.06 | Semlar | don't do that |
| 04:56.47 | Neffi | I'm inclined to agree with Semlar |
| 04:56.57 | Semlar | <3 |
| 04:58.11 | Thunder_Child | This bromance is nauseating |
| 04:58.25 | Semlar | you're just jealous because you don't have what we have |
| 04:58.51 | Thunder_Child | I think you used the wrong word there. |
| 04:59.07 | Neffi | lol tc, don't be mad |
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| 05:58.21 | airtonix | hey shirk |
| 05:58.40 | Shirik | hey airtonix |
| 05:59.24 | airtonix | see fisker, shirik loves me |
| 05:59.51 | airtonix | <notcreepyatall> |
| 06:00.28 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 06:02.21 | mikma | shirik: :D |
| 06:02.29 | Shirik | hey mikma |
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| 06:10.55 | mikma | shirik: http://vimeo.com/43442146?utm_content=bufferb553f |
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| 07:41.31 | Torhal | beats Ackis to death repeatedly, utilizing TC-Work for the task. |
| 07:49.06 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 07:51.47 | Shirik | mikma: I approve |
| 07:59.32 | mikma | you need to create a shirik stamp of approval |
| 07:59.51 | mikma | http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110809182235/fallout/images/c/c0/VaultBoyFO3.png |
| 07:59.56 | airtonix | it'll be a picture of your face pushed up agains the glass |
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| 08:18.37 | mikma | cairenn: http://www.break.com/video/baby-fox-gets-head-stuck-in-can-2588170 |
| 08:18.49 | Cairenn | lol |
| 08:19.20 | Cairenn | awww, poor little thing |
| 08:23.08 | mikma | http://www.break.com/video/two-cars-play-rock-paper-scissors-in-a-traffic-jam-2589178 |
| 08:23.15 | mikma | this is soooo awesome |
| 08:25.33 | airtonix | yawn |
| 08:26.35 | mikma | don't let the url mislead |
| 08:26.36 | mikma | http://www.break.com/video/back-door-teen-mom-2588522 |
| 08:26.46 | mikma | maybe the best music video of this year |
| 08:31.14 | Cairenn | mikma: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN4t9O3sGP0 |
| 08:33.30 | mikma | one dirty job but someone has to do it |
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| 09:19.27 | Fisker | o hai Cairenn |
| 09:19.36 | Cairenn | hey Fisker :) |
| 09:19.43 | Fisker | How are you doing? |
| 09:20.00 | Cairenn | Doing alright, you? |
| 09:20.14 | Fisker | Also alright |
| 09:20.53 | Cairenn | Good to hear. :) |
| 09:31.52 | mikma | http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9ac_1395454158 |
| 09:35.03 | mikma | nevcairiel: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6cf_1395449145 |
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| 09:57.33 | karl_w_w | I've seen these text faces before but never ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)っ✂╰⋃╯ |
| 10:02.21 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 10:02.33 | Fisker | o hi jnwhiteh |
| 10:02.36 | jnwhiteh | hihi |
| 10:03.41 | mikma | cairenn: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=183_1395433303 |
| 10:03.51 | tharper | WHAT IS THAT MAN CUTTING |
| 10:05.03 | mikma | what man and where |
| 10:05.56 | tharper | ( |
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| 10:54.42 | mikma | nsfw'ish, http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d70_1395349932 |
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| 12:03.17 | Semlar | so.. i made a level 1 on another server for about 5 seconds and now i'm getting spammed with battle net friend requests |
| 12:05.24 | Semlar | i thought it might be oq getting enabled but i'm not broadcasting anything |
| 12:06.49 | Semlar | at any rate the oq in my addons folder is probably about a year old |
| 12:14.34 | mikma | http://youtu.be/UkSPUDpe0U8 |
| 12:28.13 | VIad | the last once are quite nice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OK36ItFEFs&t=2m22s#t=2m22s |
| 12:28.56 | VIad | Semlar: will oq be a thing in wod? they said they wanted to make their tool into a group finder tool for any type of content |
| 12:29.21 | VIad | i.e. what oqueue is atm |
| 12:29.51 | Semlar | this shouldn't have anything to do with oq but it's a possibility that having it enabled on one toon somehow opened up my battletag for friend requests |
| 12:30.12 | Semlar | or logging on to a new server let the spammers get it |
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| 12:30.45 | Semlar | it's hard to say since you can't put a description in a friend request any more so that kind of killed the spam |
| 12:37.36 | Semlar | granted now my addon can't block them since there's no description to match |
| 12:48.42 | airtonix | mikma: dat tounge |
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| 15:03.46 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ACTLMfUL4o |
| 15:31.53 | karl_w_w | wew my priest is level 56 |
| 15:31.59 | karl_w_w | in HS, not WoW :P |
| 15:38.43 | jleclanche | Okay, tring my luck a third time |
| 15:38.52 | jleclanche | can anyone identify the song here? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQkCPRLvuVg&t=555 |
| 15:39.11 | jleclanche | seriously I ran it through a *lot* of people with no luck. |
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| 15:41.25 | karl_w_w | was one of those people shazam? |
| 15:41.53 | Fisker | Probably not something that would be in a database like shazam |
| 15:42.29 | jleclanche | yes someone ran it through shazam |
| 15:44.01 | karl_w_w | i dont recognise it at all |
| 15:44.42 | nevcairiel | my shazam didnt work because the moron talks too much |
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| 15:47.26 | karl_w_w | it sounds like some 90s rpg |
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| 15:53.45 | Fisker | I disagree karl_w_w |
| 15:53.54 | Fisker | it sounds like some 90s rpg in a shitty metal version |
| 15:53.55 | Fisker | :3 |
| 15:54.09 | Fisker | Seriously wouldn't be surprise it's some weird indie shit from someone |
| 15:55.51 | pompy | http://www.arianespace.tv/ at 6pm EDT |
| 16:02.22 | jleclanche | Fisker karl_w_w: he did mention he was playing Final Fantasy ost |
| 16:02.27 | jleclanche | but ive never played that so cant tell :/ |
| 16:07.55 | karl_w_w | did he imply final fantasy 1 or was it unclear? |
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| 16:12.46 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: unclear |
| 16:13.31 | karl_w_w | well im having fun going through the FF1 ost anyway, and it has the same feel |
| 16:13.45 | jleclanche | link |
| 16:14.06 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUAsbFYnFIo |
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| 16:23.15 | karl_w_w | my first thought when I heard it was final fantasy, but it doesn't seem to be in 1 |
| 16:23.29 | karl_w_w | so my guess is it'll be in one of 2-6 :P |
| 16:28.15 | karl_w_w | oh my fucking god |
| 16:28.22 | karl_w_w | fucking ads on every single youtube video |
| 16:29.02 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: i went through all of them, doesnt seem to be any |
| 16:29.24 | jleclanche | it may be a dead end |
| 16:34.03 | karl_w_w | it's almost certainly the work of uematsu imo, sounds like him |
| 16:34.23 | karl_w_w | but that's a pretty deep pool to be fishing in |
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| 17:01.16 | jleclanche | FUCKING FOUND IT |
| 17:01.16 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5knreOB_D8 |
| 17:01.22 | jleclanche | zenzelezz: you were looking for it too ^ |
| 17:03.12 | karl_w_w | shame i never played 9 I probably would have known straight away :P |
| 17:03.46 | karl_w_w | blame my poor childhood! |
| 17:09.22 | Stanzilla | jleclanche: how did you find it? |
| 17:09.25 | Stanzilla | asked in comments? |
| 17:09.34 | jleclanche | asked final fantasy players. |
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| 17:12.35 | pompy | https://www.facebook.com/GameRant/posts/10201165456012178?comment_id=5153983&offset=0&total_comments=15 :D |
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| 17:14.04 | nevcairiel | I don't want to know what crap they produced before if they really consider the yearly CoD title to be their pinacle of creativity |
| 17:14.33 | pompy | heh |
| 17:14.44 | nevcairiel | every year, the damn game is the same shit |
| 17:14.51 | pompy | amen. |
| 17:14.58 | nevcairiel | 2 hours of single player, mediocre multi player |
| 17:15.20 | Stanzilla | maybe there are 2 dogs now |
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| 17:15.22 | Stanzilla | one being a doge |
| 17:16.00 | Neffi | much zombie. |
| 17:16.25 | Arrowmaster | i only liked the IW ones before everybody left |
| 17:16.41 | Stanzilla | I'm excitebike for the new far cry |
| 17:16.49 | Stanzilla | himalaya is a cool setting for a shooter |
| 17:16.53 | Arrowmaster | well those were the only playable ones, like might be going too far |
| 17:16.56 | karl_w_w | it's split, there are 3 developers making their own release every 3 years |
| 17:17.06 | pompy | also, Respawn is giving Bluepoint Games "more time" to work on Titanfall on the 360... its supposed to be released march 25... the discs are obviously printed already and sent to hte retailers, so obviously theres gonna be a stupidly large day 1 patch, but they moved it to april 8th/11th... but i bet you the real reason is because of D3 RoS |
| 17:17.38 | karl_w_w | I think we just have to accept that there are no good FPS games any more |
| 17:17.52 | Stanzilla | not true |
| 17:17.59 | karl_w_w | and then be pleasantly surprised when the odd except comes along |
| 17:18.29 | pompy | http://pastebin.com/DZkBMF6s that was Respawns quote |
| 17:18.40 | Arrowmaster | i went to a lan party last month and of all the FPSs i had the most fun playing ut2004 |
| 17:18.41 | Stanzilla | just accept that everything EA does is shit |
| 17:18.46 | Stanzilla | and CoD is shit |
| 17:18.47 | nevcairiel | we used to play a lot CoD2 and CoD4 back in the day, but anything that came after CoD4:MW seems to have only gone down |
| 17:18.52 | Stanzilla | and every engine blizzard uses |
| 17:20.13 | karl_w_w | the only good multiplayer fps is that one with the customizable weapons |
| 17:20.27 | karl_w_w | name completely eludes me |
| 17:20.37 | Stanzilla | battlefield? counter strike? |
| 17:20.40 | nevcairiel | the free one? |
| 17:20.40 | Stanzilla | many more? |
| 17:21.07 | karl_w_w | loadout |
| 17:21.08 | pompy | loadout lol? |
| 17:21.09 | pompy | lol |
| 17:21.09 | nevcairiel | when did counter strike have customizable weapons? =p |
| 17:21.27 | Stanzilla | since GO |
| 17:21.51 | Stanzilla | it has weapon skins and stickers you can put on them |
| 17:21.58 | nevcairiel | thats just another failed FPS to milk an established name |
| 17:22.09 | karl_w_w | for single player the only good recent fpses I can think of are crysis (not 2) and metro |
| 17:22.24 | Stanzilla | do you really think csgo failed? |
| 17:24.12 | nevcairiel | loadout was a bit of fun though |
| 17:24.17 | Fisker | asdfgsfds |
| 17:30.15 | pompy | nevcairiel: CS:GO #2 played game on Steam today with 125k ppl.. well guess we can just say #1, bc um wen is Dota 2 NOT #1 |
| 17:30.16 | pompy | :O |
| 17:30.59 | pompy | damn 6.8m ppl on steam apparently atm |
| 17:31.40 | karl_w_w | is that all? :P |
| 17:31.57 | pompy | i knows right |
| 17:31.59 | karl_w_w | i tend to leave it running all the time |
| 17:38.27 | Iriel | Speaking of FPS - http://www.harmonixmusic.com/games/chroma/ |
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| 18:20.00 | jleclanche | 1 hour and 40 minutes to wipe a 8gb pen drive :/ |
| 18:23.14 | Iriel | THis is why they’re dirt cheap |
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| 18:27.31 | A-KO | I always take for granted I live so close to these museums |
| 18:32.07 | zenzelezz | jleclanche: out of curiosity, would a "quick format" not have been enough? (Don't know which filesystems accept those) |
| 18:32.19 | jleclanche | zenzelezz: i was using dd |
| 18:32.29 | zenzelezz | ah |
| 18:32.54 | karl_w_w | fun things to do: watch people playing your favourite games for the first time http://www.twitch.tv/jonna111 |
| 18:36.20 | Neffi | Does *any* filesystem enforce a zeroing of the drive before formatting? I doubt it |
| 18:37.03 | Dagmar | None. |
| 18:37.04 | zenzelezz | probably not, but I'm not very well versed in the technicalities of how they work |
| 18:37.11 | Fisker | filesystems enforce formatting now? |
| 18:37.13 | Dagmar | For one thing, it would _break_ thin provisioning |
| 18:37.32 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: what's that? |
| 18:38.01 | Dagmar | The only thing that has requirements on the state of the storage medium prior to storage of actual data are encrypted volumes |
| 18:38.32 | Neffi | So yes, a quick format is always valid, except when encrypting |
| 18:39.04 | Dagmar | zenzelezz: It's when you have a large SAN environment and maybe wish to conserve a lot of actual disk space so the SAN manager tells the hosts they've got say, 40Gb of space, but it's only actually allocated on the storage array until data is _stored_ in it |
| 18:39.30 | zenzelezz | aha |
| 18:39.33 | Fisker | If we had that I would be soooo happy |
| 18:39.57 | Dagmar | So like, if you've got 100 hosts all with 100Gb volumes allocated, and none of them actually _use_ more than 20% of it, it only takes up 20,000 on the storage medium instead of 100,000. |
| 18:40.22 | Dagmar | This is actually not an unreasonable thing to do when you're dealing with large quantities of disks |
| 18:41.14 | Dagmar | Prior to thin provisioning you were practically guaranteed to be wasting 20% of the storage because only lunatics let writable volumes stay above 80% utillization |
| 18:41.31 | Fisker | 80%? |
| 18:41.32 | Neffi | must be a lunatic |
| 18:41.51 | Dagmar | It's a general rule of thumb, because filled disks == bad |
| 18:42.05 | Neffi | I try to keep it below 90%, but I've broken that rule before |
| 18:42.13 | Fisker | We have a windows 2k server with SQL on it |
| 18:42.27 | Fisker | and all databases + logs grow indefinitely and there's no backup on the server |
| 18:42.31 | Dagmar | Yes, and when you have users who are not you, someone's getting a call whenever they fill up the disks and their data gets into a snit |
| 18:42.38 | Fisker | so we used to have <10MB free on it |
| 18:42.47 | Fisker | I liked it |
| 18:42.49 | Fisker | It was funny |
| 18:43.07 | Neffi | o.o |
| 18:43.17 | Fisker | seeing this guy spending a day looking for files |
| 18:43.22 | Fisker | just to free up a few more MB |
| 18:43.26 | Fisker | and then run out a few days later |
| 18:43.29 | Fisker | lolol |
| 18:43.46 | Fisker | I just removed all the transaction logs and disabled them :( |
| 18:43.53 | Dagmar | If someone wants to actually do the math, they can come up with a reasonable threshold for free space, but it's practically guaranteed someone's going to "accidentally" upload 35Gb into a volume that's normally only 80Gb in size |
| 18:44.30 | Fisker | however |
| 18:45.00 | Fisker | MFW we discovered we still had a support agreement on it and could've moved to a new OS and version for the past 15 years and we actually implemented asterisk instead to prevent paying for it |
| 18:45.04 | Fisker | so lol'd |
| 18:45.17 | Dagmar | Asterisk was a good move anyway |
| 18:45.26 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 18:45.40 | Fisker | Unfortunately we got some pretty shitty network here |
| 18:46.01 | Fisker | and our network guy can't figure out QoS on traffic |
| 18:46.20 | Fisker | He had it working on voice earlier because it was on a seperate vlan |
| 18:46.31 | Fisker | but since we use software phones now he doesn't have that advantage |
| 18:46.32 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:47.06 | Fisker | It's funny how some people get to keep their jobs |
| 18:47.22 | Fisker | It's Cisco equipment all running like pre-IOS 12 software |
| 18:47.30 | Fisker | Still have telnet enabled (but not ssh) |
| 18:47.34 | Fisker | plaintext passwords |
| 18:47.35 | Dagmar | You still on fast ethernet or something? |
| 18:47.38 | Fisker | password is <6 characters |
| 18:47.48 | Fisker | We can dump most of the netconfig externally |
| 18:47.53 | Fisker | through snmp exploits |
| 18:47.54 | Fisker | lol |
| 18:48.11 | Neffi | If anyone hasn't seen, more features slated for Lua 5.3 besides integers. Now, bitwise operators, utf8 base lib, utf8 escapes, (un)packing numbers into strings, and other ones I dont care about: http://www.lua.org/work/doc/readme.html#changes |
| 18:48.12 | Fisker | Funny story Dagmar |
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| 18:48.29 | Fisker | They want to change 1Gbit Zyxel equipment iwth 100Mbit Cisco equipment |
| 18:48.37 | Fisker | with* |
| 18:49.05 | Dagmar | *eyepinch* |
| 18:49.19 | Fisker | :) |
| 18:49.22 | Dagmar | Let's just hope those have 10gb uplinks |
| 18:49.32 | Fisker | too expensive |
| 18:49.34 | Fisker | But it's funny |
| 18:49.45 | Dagmar | Then they'd better learn how to use LACP and trunking |
| 18:49.46 | Fisker | we're paying to exchange our better network for a worse one with cisco stickers |
| 18:51.44 | Fisker | gonna be some bigass switches then Dagmar :P |
| 18:51.55 | Fisker | Also switching all of our wireless out with cisco |
| 18:52.23 | Fisker | gonna be good |
| 18:52.47 | Fisker | I was told this specific wireless access point has issues having more than 20 devices connected at a time |
| 18:53.08 | Dagmar | They should probably _not_ be deploying $50 APs they bought at the store |
| 18:53.25 | Fisker | They're not $50 :P |
| 18:53.26 | Dagmar | The Cisco wireless system will at least perform very well |
| 18:53.32 | Fisker | They're cisco enterprise AP's |
| 18:53.42 | Dagmar | Someone fuckin' broke them then |
| 18:53.47 | Fisker | :o |
| 18:53.48 | Fisker | idk |
| 18:53.50 | Fisker | We haven't gotten them |
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| 18:54.06 | Dagmar | 20 wireless users on a device is actually doable with a freakin' Atom netbook's worth of hardware |
| 18:54.45 | zenzelezz | a company whose offices are below ours have seven or eight wireless networks set up |
| 18:54.52 | zenzelezz | for less than 10 employees |
| 18:54.52 | Dagmar | We've got Cisco's stuff at the office, and it's finally doing all the thing wireless LANs are supposed to |
| 18:55.08 | Iriel | same at our place |
| 18:55.10 | Dagmar | i.e., roaming between APs with the same lease works fine, handoffs work properly, etc |
| 18:55.27 | Iriel | except for occasional dhcp underprovisioning events |
| 18:55.42 | Fisker | idk |
| 18:55.47 | Fisker | I'll probably be gone by then |
| 18:56.08 | Dagmar | Yeah the lease management system they use is constantly shuffling addresses around, in part because FOR WHATEVER REASON they decided initially to not put it on the entire 10.0.0.0/8 |
| 18:56.29 | Dagmar | Not even a /16 of it |
| 18:56.45 | Fisker | It was a shame |
| 18:57.22 | Dagmar | At least they know now with the new system that they both must plan for 3,000 students showing up in a location, every one of them packing a smartphone with wifi... |
| 18:57.27 | Fisker | I almost shamed our network technician into fixing WOL and remote management ports on our network :( |
| 18:57.44 | Dagmar | ...and that with the new architecture deployed they can just use one single gigantic goddamn address space |
| 18:57.45 | zenzelezz | wake-on-lan? |
| 18:57.53 | Fisker | yeah |
| 18:58.16 | Fisker | We can't WOL outside our server room because none of the equipment can pass the WOL packets :P |
| 18:58.31 | Fisker | Well it can, but it's not setup to |
| 18:58.39 | Dagmar | This is typically not a thing you want wandering fire and wide on the network |
| 18:58.51 | Fisker | We don't have AMT anyway |
| 18:59.16 | Fisker | So kind of need it |
| 18:59.33 | Fisker | Pretty hard for me to reinstall computers at night without it |
| 19:00.20 | Dagmar | You could always say to management "Let's stop this amateur hour stuff and get some virtualization hosts in here." |
| 19:00.32 | Dagmar | ...or just homebrew some |
| 19:00.43 | Fisker | stop amateur hour? |
| 19:00.44 | Fisker | lolol |
| 19:00.50 | Fisker | Virtualization hosts though? |
| 19:01.11 | Dagmar | Yes, i.e., a very, _very_ robust server you just throw RHEL on and use virtd/virt-manager |
| 19:01.31 | Dagmar | You can instantate and deinstantate VMs remotely at will |
| 19:01.38 | Fisker | Wait so run every desktop as a VM or what? |
| 19:01.46 | Fisker | madness |
| 19:01.52 | Dagmar | ...and it's actually a bit cheaper when you're dealing with replacing 50 indivdual boxes |
| 19:02.07 | Dagmar | Ugh Waking people's _desktops_ to reinstall? Yucky |
| 19:02.15 | Fisker | True |
| 19:02.32 | Iriel | Train the cleaning staff to turn machines on, then call them? |
| 19:02.44 | Dagmar | When real hardware is involved, we're lucky to be able to deploy a new server inside of a week |
| 19:03.03 | Dagmar | ...as a VM, depending on how long other people take to get their paperwork done, two days. |
| 19:03.21 | Fisker | We use VM's for servers too |
| 19:03.23 | Dagmar | If we shorten the criteria a bit to not account for firewalls and DNS, an hour. |
| 19:03.23 | Fisker | just not desktop |
| 19:03.43 | Dagmar | ...most of which is me double-checking things. |
| 19:03.50 | Dagmar | I'm about to get sneaky tho |
| 19:04.02 | Fisker | We have a few physical servers still though, for obvious reasons |
| 19:04.03 | Dagmar | It seems that there's a perl interface to access VMware's stuff |
| 19:04.08 | Fisker | but the rest is running virtually |
| 19:04.29 | Fisker | But it's super amateur hour though |
| 19:04.50 | Fisker | They want a failover if one of our locations go down |
| 19:05.05 | Dagmar | I'm somewhat hoping to just turn the entire process of spinning up new vms into something our guys can do via a single web interface |
| 19:05.06 | Fisker | Their idea of failover is restoring a <week old backup and running it on another set of vm hosts |
| 19:05.13 | Dagmar | ugh |
| 19:05.18 | Fisker | you may wat |
| 19:05.50 | zenzelezz | wats |
| 19:05.54 | Fisker | I'm so happy when I can leave here |
| 19:05.56 | Fisker | This guy |
| 19:06.05 | Fisker | He earns like twice what I do |
| 19:06.18 | Fisker | Every week he does something stupid |
| 19:06.28 | Fisker | He destroyed our CA root |
| 19:06.32 | Fisker | because it was shut down |
| 19:06.38 | Fisker | noone is using it then |
| 19:06.59 | Fisker | he tried to migrate a domain controller from virtual envrioment to another |
| 19:07.12 | Fisker | Realized something went wrong on the other Virtual host |
| 19:07.18 | Fisker | so shut it down again and started the old copy |
| 19:07.23 | Fisker | YOU DO NOT DO THAT EVER |
| 19:07.50 | Fisker | So when all clients started going "Hey where's our domain" |
| 19:08.05 | Fisker | I get blamed because obviously I am responsible for all the clients |
| 19:08.15 | Fisker | ugh |
| 19:08.40 | Fisker | Deleted our public folder database on exchange by deleting the disk |
| 19:08.44 | Neffi | :( |
| 19:09.08 | Fisker | just lost around 500GB of data on our file shares |
| 19:09.22 | Fisker | Actually completely destroyed my deployment drive |
| 19:09.28 | Fisker | so had to restore a week-old copy |
| 19:09.36 | Fisker | Heck they tried restoring it 3 times and failed |
| 19:09.58 | Fisker | Like how hard can it be to check in the backup interface what it tries to restore |
| 19:10.05 | Fisker | it obviously is missing data if you look at the dataset |
| 19:10.10 | Fisker | so I told them to use an earlier full backup |
| 19:10.35 | Fisker | I need to get away with murder |
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| 19:12.09 | Fisker | 2 people have quit sofar because of him |
| 19:12.14 | Fisker | I'm next up |
| 19:14.41 | Fisker | I wish I had a game to play |
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| 19:32.07 | Shirik | if you're bored, try searching twitter for "phelps" and "medal" |
| 19:32.09 | Shirik | http://i.imgur.com/94ak5m0.png |
| 19:34.15 | Shirik | https://twitter.com/search?q=phelps%20medals&src=typd |
| 19:40.17 | Jamash | Fisker: mirror a blank drive over him |
| 19:40.30 | Jamash | it'll be like he never existed |
| 19:40.46 | Fisker | I wish |
| 19:40.58 | Fisker | It would be funny to see how he reacts to his own reflection though |
| 19:41.08 | Fisker | Would he realize it is himself or would he think it was another one of his kind? |
| 19:41.37 | Jamash | dd if=/dev/zero /dev/employees/jerkface |
| 19:41.51 | Jamash | er, of= |
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| 19:41.56 | Jamash | I'm awake |
| 19:42.19 | Neffi | use if=/dev/random, you might create the next Shakespeare |
| 19:42.33 | Jamash | or a lovecraftian abomination |
| 19:42.41 | Neffi | both good options |
| 19:43.39 | Neffi | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:43.43 | Neffi | blocking* |
| 19:45.13 | Dagmar | Everything except "to fill the entropy pool" |
| 19:45.42 | Neffi | Doesn't /dev/random wait on the kernel to fill the entropy pool if it runs low? |
| 19:45.46 | nevcairiel | urandom wont wait for new entropy like random would, so you can read faster from it |
| 19:45.58 | Neffi | Yes, that's what I meant |
| 19:47.09 | Jamash | I've been reading some wacky papers about using sponge functions as the basis for an entire cryptosystem |
| 19:48.17 | Neffi | sources? |
| 19:51.21 | Jamash | http://sponge.noekeon.org/SpongeDuplex.pdf |
| 19:51.38 | Jamash | found the link at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sponge_function |
| 19:52.26 | Jamash | they're constructing hash, MAC, stream, block and Authenticated Encryption modes |
| 19:57.15 | Neffi | wait.... |
| 19:57.26 | Neffi | Australia had a war om emus and lost.. ..? |
| 19:57.46 | Neffi | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War <- this is the greatest thing I've ever read |
| 20:00.22 | phelps | Shirik: are those serious tweets ? thats pretty sad if they are |
| 20:00.32 | Shirik | I can't tell |
| 20:01.08 | phelps | I'm happy he is dead, he shit on my last name |
| 20:02.47 | Jamash | I'm guessing about a 50% satire / 50% ignorance ratio on those tweets |
| 20:03.11 | Jamash | Tina Fey: clearly satire |
| 20:04.26 | Jamash | "Fred Phelps? Isn't he the guy that won all those Olympic gold medals for protesting gay marriage and stuff?" also clearly satire |
| 20:05.10 | Neffi | No I think he's the guy that smoked gay marijuana out of a bong |
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| 20:23.12 | mikma | eh, hehe.. http://imgur.com/r/cableporn |
| 20:25.14 | Neffi | beautiful |
| 20:25.59 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/uCi1W4r.jpg I love that case, but I'd be so afraid of destroying my computer |
| 20:26.08 | Neffi | Lian-Li's bench case |
| 20:28.27 | Fisker | speaking of cable porn |
| 20:28.43 | Fisker | we have optic fiber cables lying around on the ground |
| 20:28.49 | Fisker | best idea |
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| 20:31.03 | Neffi | I wanna take a picture of the corner next to my desk and post it there. The reactions would be downright hostile |
| 20:38.49 | kd3 | this is what burns down houses: https://twitter.com/Kaydeethree/status/447469512569651200 |
| 20:39.52 | Shirik | .... |
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| 20:40.14 | kd3 | I nearly had a stroke when I saw it |
| 20:40.38 | Seerah | I bet |
| 20:40.50 | Cairenn | Holy crap! |
| 20:40.58 | Iriel | kd3: Moisture or arcing? |
| 20:41.10 | kd3 | moisture is my guess |
| 20:41.21 | Cairenn | Ummmm, yeah, if using an extension cord outside, wrap the join in electrical tape. |
| 20:41.34 | Iriel | Use a LONGER extension cord. |
| 20:41.46 | Iriel | goes afk. |
| 20:41.50 | Cairenn | errr, yeah, I suppose that could be arcing, couldn't it? |
| 20:42.04 | Cairenn | My first reaction was moisture |
| 21:01.03 | zenzelezz | <Cairenn> My first reaction was moisture <-- until I read further up, this sounded intriguing |
| 21:01.10 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 21:06.28 | Cidan | it still sounds intriguing to me |
| 21:06.44 | A-KO | IRCing from the Jefferson Memorial |
| 21:06.47 | A-KO | Because I can. |
| 21:06.58 | Cidan | A-KO, I'm sorry for that. |
| 21:07.05 | A-KO | Lol |
| 21:07.09 | kd3 | way to totally disrespect national monuments |
| 21:07.11 | Cidan | just moved out of DC 6 months ago, do not miss it. |
| 21:07.15 | A-KO | Haha |
| 21:07.22 | A-KO | I am trying to get to Toronto. |
| 21:07.32 | A-KO | But I do like DC |
| 21:07.38 | A-KO | I'm from Baltimore. |
| 21:07.46 | A-KO | So I only come down on occasion |
| 21:07.50 | kd3 | nice to visit, don't ever want to live there |
| 21:07.58 | A-KO | First really warm day of spring is worth it. |
| 21:23.50 | mikma | cairenn: lol lol we have insulated powercords so that's not going to happen here |
| 21:25.03 | mikma | http://www.lukegilman.com/high-on-the-hog/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/extension-cord-in-pool.jpg |
| 21:25.08 | mikma | like so ;) |
| 21:26.01 | Cairenn | k |
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| 22:43.05 | Neffi | sheet. On the previous TPP, the description mentioned he was using a ROM hack that enabled the capture of all Pokemon, and a couple other things. Does anybody know what that is? |
| 22:43.17 | Neffi | It went to the next generation, and the name of the ROM hack isn't there anymore |
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| 22:52.05 | zenzelezz | TPP? |
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| 23:02.52 | Iriel | Twitch Plays Pokemon |
| 23:06.51 | Neffi | wow. shiny pidgey appears... before I get my first pokeballs |
| 23:06.56 | Neffi | The only shiny I've ever seen |
| 23:30.42 | Semlar | hax neffi |
| 23:30.59 | Neffi | 'tis a hack |
| 23:31.05 | Neffi | Pokemon Ultra Violet |
| 23:32.12 | Semlar | ultra violent |
| 23:32.46 | Neffi | Patch against Fire Red that adds some content, and allows all Pokemon to be gathered |
| 23:33.17 | Neffi | Also allows you to catch your starter. I got me a Ralts. :D |
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| 23:38.09 | Sintacks | my SUF party frames aren't showing up |
| 23:38.48 | Sintacks | oh |
| 23:38.52 | Sintacks | i was in an instance group |
| 23:43.42 | VIad | people cheat oqueue by changing their stats broadcast |
| 23:43.48 | VIad | how to fix it? |
| 23:43.54 | VIad | peer review |
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| 23:46.18 | VIad | you could make a system where grouped up people with oqueue would rank more legit as they would vote for the other party member (since it can actually inspect and check their gear) and this way you could have a option when making a party that you wish to find others with high rating or someshit like that |
| 23:46.42 | VIad | I'd just wait for WOD |
| 23:46.46 | Jamash | then people would cheat peer review |
| 23:46.47 | VIad | if blizz do what they promissed |
| 23:47.18 | VIad | blizz said theyd make the group finder tool so that you can find groups for anything |
| 23:47.23 | Jamash | yay |
| 23:47.35 | Jamash | will it have an ERP tab? |
| 23:47.37 | VIad | like how the current dungeon and raid finder works, only no limit to what you can find a group for |
| 23:47.40 | VIad | no clue |
| 23:47.46 | VIad | they just briefly mentioned it |
| 23:47.51 | VIad | last blizziecon |
| 23:52.05 | VIad | the current dbc file already kind of mentions this by having entries for world zones and all sort of dungeons on it :P |
| 23:52.15 | VIad | things not released at all, probably a pushed back feature |
