| 00:06.15 | Semlar | does UNIT_PET fire for raid members? |
| 00:06.45 | Semlar | or do i have to periodically scan for pets if i want them |
| 00:09.57 | rot | I think it should....or I am screwd as well.. |
| 00:10.34 | Semlar | i know it fires for party members but i don't know if it does for the raid |
| 00:10.41 | nebula169 | it does |
| 00:10.42 | Semlar | i'll check later |
| 00:11.01 | Semlar | that works too |
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| 00:30.08 | pompy1 | Dagmar: nashville right? |
| 00:32.42 | Arrowmaster | two phone calls today about job openings |
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| 00:33.32 | TC-Work | Gratz |
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| 01:04.05 | Dagmar | pompy: I live there |
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| 01:44.04 | pompy1 | Dagmar: because http://www.fox17.com/news/features/top-stories/stories/teens-charged-torturing-disabled-boy-20249.shtml |
| 01:44.05 | pompy1 | wtff |
| 01:46.04 | Dagmar | Yeah I don't even know about that |
| 01:46.26 | Dagmar | Mainly it reaffirms my dedication to the BeatAKid foundation |
| 01:51.21 | kd3 | ok, wtf. horde beat us to keep by 3 minutes in IoC and we still managed to win |
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| 03:22.01 | pompy1 | http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1996397-mlb-umpire-carted-off-the-field-after-taking-a-line-drive-below-the-belt owww |
| 03:24.14 | Fisker | god damnit |
| 03:24.32 | Fisker | it's time to conquer Norway and Sweden |
| 03:30.12 | Amarande | ouch, he got hit in the balls with a ball? |
| 03:34.27 | Jamash | goddamn it internet http://doge2048.com/ |
| 03:36.38 | Primer | breser: Have you merged nebula169's patches into PB4 yet? |
| 03:37.35 | Primer | I haven't had the chance to test turning off other addons to see why PB's raid frames are not updating |
| 03:37.57 | Primer | now it's happening when I'm just sitting in shrine a raid group is filling |
| 03:38.11 | Primer | and a raid group, that is |
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| 03:41.30 | Amarande | Primer: maybe you're just hallucinating that people are joining group because you've been waiting too long to get it together? :) |
| 03:41.36 | Primer | I wonder if perhaps my arrow module could be doing something |
| 03:41.39 | Amarande | especially today, it's St Paddy's, you probably indulged right? :) |
| 03:41.45 | Primer | I don't drink |
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| 03:44.46 | Amarande | you know, it occurs to me that the thing WoW really needs in that regard, is to somehow boost the fun factor of tank classes |
| 03:45.00 | Amarande | I'm sure it would cause the tank shortage to vanish overnight, if they made people really *like* to play such specs |
| 03:45.10 | Amarande | then groups wouldn't take forever to fill :) |
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| 03:48.21 | Amarande | I'm thinking about how like in SW:TOR tanks are all over the place ... and I can't imagine that not being the case either, because the tank classes are freaking fun and awesome, especially Powertech :) |
| 03:52.04 | Gethe | it's more than just the spec though. many people have the expectation that the tank is the leader, and they dont want to be in that position. Tanks are also often scrutinized harder than even healers, and some can't take that heat. |
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| 04:22.43 | Primer | dammit, I have a feeling that perhaps it could be my arrow addon doing this |
| 04:22.49 | Primer | it's a PB module |
| 04:23.09 | Primer | which has a handler for GROUP_ROSTER_UPDATE |
| 04:25.48 | Primer | I wish perhaps some PB dev could take a look at it: http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4_arrow/ |
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| 04:52.57 | Fisker | rage jnwhiteh |
| 04:52.57 | Fisker | rage |
| 04:52.58 | Fisker | https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2843119 |
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| 08:35.39 | *** topic/#wowuidev is http://pastebin.com || 5.4.x ToC: 50400 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || This channel is logged, via purl || UI changes to battle.net chat in 5.4.7: http://bit.ly/1biaLRQ || Happy Birthday MP! |
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| 09:28.22 | karl_w_w | i cant believe people thought jar jar binks was a surprise in a film series that already had c3po |
| 09:39.16 | haste | did you just realize this :P ? |
| 09:44.48 | karl_w_w | i suppose so, never really thought about it before |
| 09:46.18 | karl_w_w | it always confused me that people were surprised, I just never notice the similarity to c3po |
| 09:52.41 | mitch0 | fisker: ? |
| 09:52.52 | zenzio | I think people were more appalled than surprised |
| 09:54.21 | Fisker | hey mitch0 ? |
| 09:54.56 | mitch0 | fisker: what's the rage about? |
| 09:55.17 | mitch0 | (also, where's the page that lists from which countries you can sell paid apps?) |
| 09:57.42 | nevcairiel | he rages that denmark is not on those lists |
| 09:58.07 | mitch0 | but it is? |
| 09:58.13 | nevcairiel | music primarily, i guess |
| 09:58.23 | mitch0 | ah |
| 10:03.34 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: come on man, spoilers |
| 10:03.36 | jleclanche | i havent seen the movie |
| 10:03.59 | karl_w_w | dumbledore dies |
| 10:04.25 | karl_w_w | and kevin spacey is keyser soze |
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| 10:09.32 | Fisker | I bought veronica mars on play movies just for lulz |
| 10:15.56 | zenzio | "for lulz", sure... we know you did it for the actress |
| 10:34.59 | karl_w_w | i backed veronica mars for the actress |
| 10:35.11 | karl_w_w | Fiskerjealous |
| 10:58.17 | Maldivia | just admit you're a marshmallow! |
| 11:10.03 | Kalroth | lights a bonfire |
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| 12:45.48 | Lopeppeppy | Happy Hangover Day. |
| 12:46.21 | Jamash | I don't drink |
| 12:47.10 | alestane | I had a Guinness & Amaretto, but that certainly wasn't enough to qualify for a hangover. |
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| 12:57.12 | karl_w_w | weird americans with your alcoholism day |
| 13:05.43 | Jamash | In Australia, every day is alcoholism day, amirite? |
| 13:06.57 | zenzio | roite |
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| 13:31.31 | Jamash | Open Bnet launcher -> cannot connect -> stare stupidly for a minute -> realize it's Tuesday |
| 13:33.11 | j311yf1sh | lol |
| 13:33.12 | Ressy | lol |
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| 13:58.18 | Fisker | I'm not hungover Lopeppeppy |
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| 14:46.44 | Lopeppeppy | College students be hatin' the sunlight today, I can tell ya. |
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| 14:53.16 | Neffi | o.O |
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| 15:37.54 | Fisker | Yeah Lopeppeppy |
| 15:37.55 | Fisker | I get that |
| 15:39.52 | Workfoz | I feel like I'm playing Monkey Island |
| 15:40.08 | Workfoz | vSphere Single Sign-On Server asking me to "Inser Disk: 1" |
| 15:40.10 | Workfoz | +t |
| 15:40.29 | Shirik | lol |
| 15:41.15 | Workfoz | someone must have fucked up this MSI package, it just doesn't want to work |
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| 15:54.24 | Workfoz | the amount of knowledge base articles related to problems installing this thing is astounding |
| 16:00.41 | nevcairiel | did you try finding disc 1? |
| 16:04.16 | Workfoz | I did |
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| 16:14.29 | Fisker | is it already installed Workfoz ? |
| 16:19.25 | Workfoz | yes |
| 16:19.43 | Fisker | Then it's probably the old installer that's fucked |
| 16:19.46 | Fisker | and not the new one |
| 16:19.53 | Workfoz | nah |
| 16:20.01 | Workfoz | it's... a mashup of different things |
| 16:20.18 | Fisker | I wish people could make MSI installers |
| 16:20.40 | Fisker | I mean at least Microsoft is trying to make a decent installer framework |
| 16:20.41 | Fisker | But nonoo |
| 16:20.52 | Fisker | you dicks have to ruin everything by not making proper installers |
| 16:20.53 | Workfoz | 1) if the installer fails, it doesn't rename stuff back it renamed out of the way when it launched. it uses a random suffix each time, and it traverses the whole target directory |
| 16:21.35 | Workfoz | if you don't undo that manually, it will just fail because of "File not found" |
| 16:21.54 | Neffi | Wow, that's pretty shitty |
| 16:22.02 | Workfoz | I had noticed that quite early on, but I hadn't noticed it also renamed stuff 12 folder levels down |
| 16:22.04 | Fisker | yeah |
| 16:22.15 | Fisker | A lot of them do that actually |
| 16:22.17 | Workfoz | like sso\lib\webapp\inf\meta-inf\whtaever\lib |
| 16:22.38 | Workfoz | with that out of the way, the other problem was "insert disk: 1" |
| 16:22.51 | Workfoz | which was caused by running the installer straight from the mounted vmware iso... Z:\ |
| 16:22.55 | Workfoz | apparently, it doesn't like Z:\ |
| 16:23.04 | Workfoz | it doesn't try to write there, it just gets confused |
| 16:23.18 | Workfoz | it tries to access Z:\vCenter Single Sign On.msi |
| 16:23.30 | Workfoz | when I launched it from Z:\Single Sign On Server\ |
| 16:23.33 | Workfoz | i.e. wrong directory |
| 16:23.47 | Workfoz | copying it all to D:\ magically solved that |
| 16:24.04 | Workfoz | don't ask me why, the log says "SOURCEDIR=Z:\Single Sign On Server\" |
| 16:24.08 | Workfoz | it's just mega dumb |
| 16:24.13 | Neffi | That would seriously turn me off the software. What the hell else will it do wrong when it's installed? |
| 16:24.23 | Workfoz | everything? probably :D |
| 16:24.36 | Fisker | blame the installer creators |
| 16:24.38 | Fisker | dicks |
| 16:24.38 | Workfoz | not to mention the stuff I wrestled with yesterday and this morning |
| 16:24.51 | Fisker | I really really really really really hate the installshield msi wrappers |
| 16:24.55 | Fisker | That's like the ultimate fuck you |
| 16:24.58 | nevcairiel | quite often the software and the installer are not created by the same people, so you know |
| 16:25.26 | Workfoz | the default password expiry for the SSO admin users is 365 days |
| 16:25.29 | Fisker | Depends nevcairiel |
| 16:25.43 | Fisker | password expiry? |
| 16:25.46 | Neffi | This is something I've noted, but I've never seen issues like this with an MSI, so it's questionable whether or not it's the installer's fault, or the people who chose the installer |
| 16:25.51 | Workfoz | which of course had already passed since our initial installation, so the admin@System-Domain (the local user db of the SSO server) was expired |
| 16:25.56 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 16:25.57 | Neffi | I guess I'd have to know how the installer works to know who to blame |
| 16:26.15 | Fisker | MSI installers have to be coded |
| 16:26.36 | Fisker | nothing wrong with MSI |
| 16:26.40 | Fisker | well |
| 16:26.51 | Fisker | It's at least better than anything else out there I know about |
| 16:27.01 | Workfoz | also, 5.1u2 SSO won't install on non-english windows in interactive mode |
| 16:27.06 | nevcairiel | its stupid to use though, imho anyway |
| 16:27.10 | Workfoz | you have to do a silent install with some commandline switches |
| 16:27.15 | Fisker | :D |
| 16:27.22 | Fisker | MSI is grand nevcairiel |
| 16:27.25 | nevcairiel | Workfoz: that'll teach you to use german windows |
| 16:27.35 | Workfoz | not my choice |
| 16:27.37 | nevcairiel | who does that! |
| 16:27.46 | Workfoz | 99% of Germany :\ |
| 16:28.02 | nevcairiel | join the 1% |
| 16:28.05 | Workfoz | so you have to parse 250 KiB MSI logs to get the faintest idea of what's wrong |
| 16:28.08 | Fisker | the last 1% better be servers Workfoz |
| 16:28.15 | Workfoz | Fisker: I meant servers |
| 16:28.19 | Fisker | :( |
| 16:28.21 | Workfoz | well, I meant everyone including servers |
| 16:28.25 | nevcairiel | i r no server |
| 16:28.27 | Workfoz | I'm part of the 1%, my home windows is english |
| 16:28.34 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 16:28.37 | Fisker | English Windows master race |
| 16:28.40 | Workfoz | ! |
| 16:28.47 | Workfoz | now... to remove those snapshots. |
| 16:28.48 | Fisker | I think I need to go back to english office pack |
| 16:28.57 | Fisker | I still hate that find is Ctrl+B |
| 16:29.04 | Fisker | and bold is ctrl+f |
| 16:29.04 | Fisker | fuckers |
| 16:29.08 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:29.23 | nevcairiel | they changed fucking keybindings in a localized version? |
| 16:29.28 | Fisker | yep |
| 16:29.34 | Fisker | It's legacy asa fuck |
| 16:29.35 | Fisker | as* |
| 16:29.38 | Workfoz | I think that's the same on german office |
| 16:29.42 | Fisker | Was even like that in IE i believe |
| 16:29.45 | Fisker | I believe* |
| 16:29.47 | nevcairiel | I already hate on excel for translating its function names in calculations |
| 16:29.53 | Workfoz | haha, german VBA |
| 16:29.56 | Workfoz | magnificient |
| 16:30.05 | nevcairiel | dont have to go to vba |
| 16:30.08 | Workfoz | it's like german GWBASIC when I was 6 years old |
| 16:30.11 | nevcairiel | you know .. =SUMME() |
| 16:30.33 | nevcairiel | I think the english versions don't even work at all |
| 16:30.34 | Workfoz | DRUCK HEADDESK |
| 16:30.36 | Workfoz | GEHEZU 10 |
| 16:30.40 | Neffi | Well isn't VBA intended above else to be human-readable and human-approachable? |
| 16:30.41 | Workfoz | (well, 10 DRUCK HEADDESK) |
| 16:30.50 | Workfoz | nevcairiel: correct, they don't |
| 16:30.52 | Workfoz | which is horrible |
| 16:30.54 | Neffi | Don't use a shitty language if you don't like it ;) |
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| 16:31.08 | Workfoz | Neffi: are there alternate macro languages for ms office? |
| 16:31.20 | nevcairiel | its practically impossible to create an excel sheet with some calculations in it which works on a english and a german office pc |
| 16:31.22 | nevcairiel | its horrible |
| 16:31.22 | Neffi | You know, I bet there are |
| 16:31.30 | Workfoz | was an honest question |
| 16:31.40 | Neffi | I don't know. I haven't used it much |
| 16:31.44 | nevcairiel | at work they handed out english office and english windows to everyone |
| 16:32.09 | Workfoz | yay, CM merged an improved (I'd rather call it "fixed") location mode notification bar toggle thing \o/ |
| 16:32.34 | Workfoz | no more "location access off/something else" toggling :P |
| 16:33.10 | Workfoz | (instead "battery saving/high accuracy" (if you had accepted the google ToS beforehand), or "off/gps only" if you didn't) |
| 16:36.16 | Workfoz | roflmao |
| 16:36.39 | Ressy | http://www.businessinsider.in/This-Has-To-Be-The-Easiest-Bitcoin-Heist-Of-All-Time/articleshow/32250582.cms |
| 16:36.57 | Neffi | haha http://i.imgur.com/SMSBrV8.jpg |
| 16:37.11 | Ressy | Ahh.. Great job Rogers.. Not verifying customers prior to rebooting a locked down server, and giving the 'hacker' full internet access to the server. |
| 16:37.42 | Lopeppeppy | pounces on |Jelly|. Because of reasons. |
| 16:37.54 | Fisker | hot |
| 16:38.04 | Fisker | Can I watch? |
| 16:38.16 | Lopeppeppy | I did it in public, didn't I? |
| 16:38.20 | TC-Work | No |
| 16:38.33 | Fisker | Yeah but text only :( |
| 16:39.25 | Lopeppeppy | Someday when I'm in the same state as |Jelly|, I shall demonstrate the awesome Tigger pounce power of a redhead. But not today. |
| 16:41.08 | Fisker | Blizzcon? |
| 16:41.41 | TC-Work | Also need to get some redhead on redhead action. |
| 16:41.54 | Fisker | I'm a redhead technically |
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| 16:45.20 | TC-Work | technically? |
| 16:48.58 | Fisker | technically |
| 16:49.11 | Workfoz | looks like I might get out of here on time today |
| 16:49.20 | Workfoz | something is going to break in the next 11 minutes, I'm sure |
| 16:49.48 | Fisker | my hair isn't red, but my beard is redbrownish |
| 16:50.27 | pompy | http://www.komonews.com/news/local/News-helicopter-crashes-burns-beside-Space-Needle-250790281.html |
| 16:50.52 | Fisker | :( |
| 16:51.11 | Fisker | We only have like 3 choppers in Denmark so |
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| 16:59.44 | Arrowmaster | red brown beards isnt uncommon |
| 17:01.51 | Arrowmaster | mines mostly brown, red on the chin, and white right under my lip |
| 17:01.56 | nevcairiel | i have that too, but i usually keep only stubbles, color is not obvious then |
| 17:08.19 | karl_w_w | veronica mars movie was pretty good! |
| 17:08.42 | karl_w_w | Fisker agrees? |
| 17:08.55 | Fisker | idk |
| 17:11.46 | karl_w_w | he will! |
| 17:13.17 | nevcairiel | If amazon can be believed, the dvd/bd will only be released on july in germany, guess i'll have to import from the US again |
| 17:13.38 | nevcairiel | don't want to bother with some crappy drm-riddled ultraviolet version before |
| 17:13.46 | Neffi | I think that's illegal nevcairiel. I'll have to report you to the authorities. |
| 17:14.12 | nevcairiel | importing a blu-ray from the US is illegal? :P |
| 17:14.34 | Neffi | Actually it might be |
| 17:14.51 | Neffi | I mean, I was joking, but it wouldn't surprise me. It's illegal to import international textbooks here. |
| 17:14.58 | karl_w_w | yes aparrently you have some rule nevcairiel |
| 17:15.09 | nevcairiel | Amazon ships them without question, its not like i go to some shady dealer |
| 17:15.16 | karl_w_w | that if it's released in the cinema it can't be available to buy for some months |
| 17:15.26 | Neffi | Might not be illegal to export then |
| 17:15.49 | nevcairiel | In fact, I can stream it through amazon instant video from amazon.co.uk right now |
| 17:16.30 | nevcairiel | karl_w_w: we've had blu-ray releases where I got the disc while the movie was still in the cinema |
| 17:16.44 | nevcairiel | granted, those were extremely popular movies where the movie was in the cinema for several months, but still! |
| 17:16.49 | karl_w_w | i shall find the thing |
| 17:16.58 | Neffi | Yeah, that happens here sometimes |
| 17:17.11 | nevcairiel | I bet they just don't have a german dub yet, and all discs released in germany need to be dubbed! |
| 17:17.19 | Neffi | They run really popular movies for *months*, well into the disc release |
| 17:17.34 | nevcairiel | Frozen is still in the cinema here |
| 17:17.38 | nevcairiel | just to name one right now |
| 17:17.40 | karl_w_w | "It's not quite a Faustian bargain, but showing the movie in German theaters did add a few restrictions that determine when we can start selling the movie, so it won't be available to buy until later in the year." |
| 17:18.11 | nevcairiel | maybe the time is between start in cinema and dvd release date |
| 17:18.12 | karl_w_w | some german distributor or some such hates you |
| 17:26.31 | Lopeppeppy | TC, you had redhead on redhead action the last time I went to Blizcon. |
| 17:33.37 | Fisker | so Blizzcon 2014 Lopeppeppy ? |
| 17:34.00 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm, Boss wants me to be in Portland in October. This may not be compatible. |
| 17:34.07 | Fisker | screw the boss |
| 17:34.28 | Lopeppeppy | Nah, not my type. He doesn't read. |
| 17:34.40 | Fisker | oh u |
| 17:34.50 | TC-Work | Lopeppeppy: When was the last time you were there? |
| 17:35.11 | Lopeppeppy | Years ago, TC. I don't play WoW anymore, so it's kinda not up my alley anymore. |
| 17:35.40 | Fisker | Hanging out with friends isn't up your alley anymore? |
| 17:35.41 | Fisker | :( |
| 17:35.55 | TC-Work | Lopeppeppy: Blizzcon is not just wow. |
| 17:36.10 | Lopeppeppy | I know, but I don't play the other games either, so... |
| 17:36.27 | Fisker | Besides tons of attentionwhores at comiccon |
| 17:36.31 | Fisker | and they don't even like comics |
| 17:36.54 | Fisker | not that you are an attentionwhore of course |
| 17:37.02 | Lopeppeppy | Calling me an attention whore, Fisker? |
| 17:37.05 | Fisker | cries |
| 17:37.16 | Fisker | smooth |
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| 17:38.29 | TC-Work | criminal |
| 17:38.55 | Fisker | yes |
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| 17:41.14 | pompy | nevcairiel: the veronic mars movie bd sold on amazon being released may 6 is "Region A/1: North America, Central America, South America, Japan, North Korea, South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong and Southeast Asia " if that means anything |
| 17:42.36 | karl_w_w | I read Lopeppeppy *wink wink* |
| 17:42.53 | kd3 | huzzah, gog.com's finally gaining linux support |
| 17:43.15 | haste | but how native! |
| 17:43.32 | haste | wine-wrapped games would just be sad |
| 17:44.25 | Lopeppeppy | *nudge nudge* |
| 17:46.22 | Dashkal | kd3: wha? |
| 17:46.33 | kd3 | http://www.gog.com/news/gogcom_soon_on_more_platforms |
| 17:46.47 | Dashkal | oooo |
| 17:49.05 | Dashkal | I must share the terrible pun that was inflicted on me when I mentioned this in the office. "Hey, gee-oh-gee is adding Linux support." "I am a-gog!" |
| 17:49.16 | kd3 | groans |
| 17:49.53 | Dashkal | pretty much |
| 18:04.07 | Fisker | asdfgsfds Lopeppeppy |
| 18:04.18 | Lopeppeppy | Bless you. |
| 18:04.40 | TC-Work | my child |
| 18:05.19 | Fisker | child? :( |
| 18:14.01 | TC-Work | Yes |
| 18:14.10 | Fisker | mean |
| 18:16.33 | Arrowmaster | kd3: i cant help but think they will do something completely wrong with reguard to linked libs |
| 18:16.53 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster, kd3: https://github.com/jleclanche/dotfiles |
| 18:17.00 | jleclanche | i updated my zshrc today and added a readme |
| 18:17.13 | Arrowmaster | im still just using grmls |
| 18:17.13 | jleclanche | and since its become popular (somehow) .. |
| 18:17.34 | Ackis | keylogger |
| 18:17.39 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: it has a couple of grml features, and i added the ability to use your own additional profile in $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/zsh/profile |
| 18:17.51 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: theres a screenshot |
| 18:18.44 | Arrowmaster | 1 sec let me find something |
| 18:20.03 | Arrowmaster | jleclanche: ive been meaning to set this up for probably a year https://github.com/RichiH/vcsh/blob/master/README.md |
| 18:22.21 | Ackis | hah 6 upvotes for being Canadian: http://www.reddit.com/r/eFreebies/comments/20mv8s/free_upgrades_to_juicessh_pro_life_time_license/cg4ubjh lulz |
| 18:22.29 | Arrowmaster | why do you have your own keymap? |
| 18:23.48 | Primer | Arrowmaster: and the sad part? That lib will be libwine |
| 18:23.52 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: because i dont like any other to program |
| 18:24.13 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: my own keymap has better placement for common programming symbols |
| 18:24.32 | jleclanche | #@~!?.:/\()[]{}"'`|$ |
| 18:24.37 | jleclanche | single hand |
| 18:24.37 | Primer | I used my own keymap too, but for shit like áéíóú |
| 18:24.44 | Arrowmaster | Primer: i ment shit like compiled to only work on latest ubuntu with newest versions of every available lib dynamically linked |
| 18:24.51 | Primer | For when I write in Portuguese |
| 18:25.07 | Primer | Arrowmaster: of course |
| 18:25.09 | Arrowmaster | since they say support for ubuntu and mint |
| 18:25.20 | Primer | well, mint is derived from ubuntu |
| 18:25.27 | Arrowmaster | exactly |
| 18:25.40 | Arrowmaster | they probably wont even test on mint |
| 18:25.45 | Primer | it's not like there's a standard for that |
| 18:26.10 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: regarding vcsh, i dont like it. i dont think its worth it. if you have too many dotfiles, you are not upstreaming enough. |
| 18:26.28 | Primer | Or is there? |
| 18:26.35 | Arrowmaster | steam made one |
| 18:26.43 | Primer | Even if there was, I'm pretty sure distros would fight over it |
| 18:26.56 | Primer | That's smart of them |
| 18:27.04 | Primer | There really should be a standard |
| 18:27.06 | nevcairiel | did I rant about the whole linux distro situation today already? Hm I don't think I did! |
| 18:27.10 | jleclanche | Primer: standard for what? |
| 18:27.13 | Arrowmaster | i like steams solution to the problem, they have their own little dir of libs to link to |
| 18:27.22 | Primer | jleclanche: library versions |
| 18:27.28 | nevcairiel | distros don't like you doing that :p |
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| 18:27.48 | kd3 | which goes against the whole fedora paradigm of libs should be systemwide... |
| 18:27.54 | Arrowmaster | distros dont but for closed source stuff like games from steam its one of the better solutions |
| 18:28.15 | jleclanche | well |
| 18:28.21 | jleclanche | theres a distribution standard being worked on |
| 18:28.23 | nevcairiel | distros are stupid idiots, they are all stuck in their ideal world of how a system should be clean, and the end users are left out in the rain :) |
| 18:28.30 | jleclanche | nah |
| 18:28.41 | jleclanche | we're working on fat apps, really we are :P |
| 18:28.58 | jleclanche | kdbus being merged in is a big part of that |
| 18:29.38 | Primer | And that is...some KDE thing? |
| 18:29.46 | jleclanche | kernel dbus |
| 18:29.48 | nevcairiel | nah, a kernel thing |
| 18:29.54 | nevcairiel | k is usually either of those |
| 18:29.59 | Primer | ok, good |
| 18:30.15 | nevcairiel | not that I think that makes it any better |
| 18:30.26 | jleclanche | the plan is for fat apps that use kdbus as an IPC |
| 18:30.39 | jleclanche | backed by intents to actually discover each other's capabilities but thats another story |
| 18:30.55 | jleclanche | point is, its a very similar system to what android has at the moment |
| 18:31.07 | nevcairiel | Doesn't really seem to fit the linux kernel to pipe user-land information through it |
| 18:31.44 | jleclanche | poettering has an hour long talk on kdbus that he did at fosdem and linux.conf.au |
| 18:31.51 | jleclanche | the gist of it is: permissions and bandwidth |
| 18:32.24 | jleclanche | kdbus lets us transfer very big files (gigabytes) through dbus, so that if you want to deal with file data itself rather than file paths (no good when sandboxed) you can do that |
| 18:32.44 | jleclanche | and it also gives the user a much more robust permission system |
| 18:32.54 | jleclanche | something actually enforced in the kernel |
| 18:33.31 | jleclanche | we're actually going to be talking about all this in two weeks at the annual desktop summit |
| 18:33.32 | Primer | nevcairiel: agreed |
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| 18:35.22 | Silvanas | hi, does anyone know wich is first? PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD or VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 18:35.41 | Arrowmaster | variables loaded |
| 18:35.48 | Fisker | PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD |
| 18:35.56 | Fisker | Arrowmaster can't see |
| 18:36.07 | Fisker | PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD was clearly listed before VARIABLES_LOADED :( |
| 18:36.35 | nevcairiel | silly Fisker |
| 18:36.38 | Fisker | silly nevcairiel |
| 18:36.52 | jleclanche | Silvanas: its easy to test; just bind both events and have a running counter, see which one comes first |
| 18:36.53 | Fisker | I just want google music |
| 18:36.58 | jleclanche | or can you timestamp things in wow now? |
| 18:37.13 | nevcairiel | why wouldnt you be able to timestamp things |
| 18:37.38 | nevcairiel | heck just print when each event fires and look at your chat window :P |
| 18:37.47 | nevcairiel | but V_L is earlier |
| 18:38.10 | Silvanas | yeh could test it but though it would already be commenly known :D |
| 18:38.11 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: im not sure if print is available that early? |
| 18:38.20 | Fisker | omg Stanzilla |
| 18:38.20 | jleclanche | i mean if the chat window is |
| 18:38.20 | Fisker | http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/03/18/google-announces-android-wear-youll-want-to-forget-all-other-smart-watches-when-you-see-this/ |
| 18:38.39 | nevcairiel | jleclanche: it is, you may not see it immediately because you're still on loading screen, but the text isnt lost |
| 18:38.45 | jleclanche | okay |
| 18:39.04 | TC-Work | http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/sad/4373963341.html Not shady at all |
| 18:39.14 | Stanzilla | omg Fisker |
| 18:39.25 | Silvanas | i totaly gues PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD is when UnitGUID("player") is avabile, but i might be wrong either way :D |
| 18:39.27 | Fisker | yep |
| 18:39.31 | Fisker | gods were oh'd |
| 18:40.04 | jleclanche | Silvanas: it might be available earlier. the client should know the GUID on the character list. |
| 18:40.17 | jleclanche | but it sounds like PEW is a good time to check for it yes |
| 18:40.29 | nevcairiel | the players guid should be available at PLAYER_LOGIN, which is before PEW |
| 18:40.41 | nevcairiel | PEW has practically all information |
| 18:40.51 | Arrowmaster | TC-Work: isnt that shit pay for la? |
| 18:41.26 | mikma | fisker: horrible shit, seen that in the 80's already |
| 18:41.27 | Primer | yes |
| 18:42.47 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: Depends on what you are doing. |
| 18:43.38 | Arrowmaster | TC-Work: this is what i have to put up with, note the requirement on the 2nd paragraph http://dayton.craigslist.org/sad/4373505897.html |
| 18:44.18 | Silvanas | oke run a quick test, VARIABLES_LOADED does fire before PLAYER_LOGIN and PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD, and guid is already avaible at PLAYER_LOGIN, thanks |
| 18:44.31 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: Yea, I keep coming across jobs with security reqs as well |
| 18:45.38 | Arrowmaster | major AFB here and nobody will sponsor for TS/SCI, they only want people that already have it even for the most minor jobs |
| 18:46.12 | TC-Work | They may eventually sponsor, but that shit is expensive. |
| 18:46.41 | Arrowmaster | i talked with one and they didnt even have the ability to sponsor |
| 18:48.23 | Arrowmaster | wow and reyrey is still posting looking for a network tech, this job listing has been up for 4 years straight, maybe they should stop being fucktards and lower their 'personality requirements' aka making you take a personality test and throw your app away if you dont fit the specific type of person they want |
| 18:53.55 | TC-Work | Or just keep filling it out as some random person until you do fit it, then fill it out as you. |
| 18:57.18 | Arrowmaster | they do it onsite |
| 18:59.49 | TC-Work | Oh, well then, nvm |
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| 19:04.40 | Fisker | TC-Work |
| 19:04.46 | TC-Work | Fisker |
| 19:04.51 | Fisker | hmm |
| 19:04.53 | Fisker | how did you do that? |
| 19:07.18 | TC-Work | Lovingly |
| 19:07.31 | Fisker | Lets get him Lopeppeppy |
| 19:07.35 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:07.42 | Fisker | oldie but goodie |
| 19:07.43 | Lopeppeppy | Eeep. |
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| 19:34.39 | Fisker | want to end time Lopeppeppy ? |
| 19:36.24 | Fisker | nobody wants to end time with me |
| 19:37.33 | Lopeppeppy | Meatloaf would do that. He would do anything for love. |
| 19:38.47 | Fisker | does meatloaf love me? |
| 19:39.06 | TC-Work | ~lart Lopeppeppy |
| 19:39.06 | purl | pries Lopeppeppy's back open with a screwdriver and flashes a new bootldr to Lopeppeppy |
| 19:39.22 | TC-Work | I dunno Lopeppeppy, he won't do that. |
| 19:39.34 | Fisker | if meatloaf loves me I'm pretty lucky |
| 19:39.57 | Fisker | then at least someone does |
| 19:41.13 | Lopeppeppy | It's never exactly clear what Meatloaf won't do, honestly. You have to imagine it. |
| 19:42.40 | Fisker | I don't even know meatloaf |
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| 19:49.11 | Silvanas | !api RegisterAddonMessagePrefix |
| 19:49.23 | Silvanas | sily bots never work when i want them to |
| 20:01.26 | kd3 | whoa |
| 20:01.34 | kd3 | x-realm SoO normal/heroic |
| 20:03.00 | kd3 | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/12091049604#1 |
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| 20:09.31 | Gethe | yup totally didnt see that one coming |
| 20:10.16 | TC-Work | is the steam site down for anyone else? |
| 20:12.01 | zenzelezz | seems like it |
| 20:13.02 | Semlar | it must be tuesday |
| 20:16.56 | zenzelezz | I'm not sure I see the relevance |
| 20:17.09 | Mr_Rabies | hmm |
| 20:17.30 | Mr_Rabies | does the /rf tool have support for x-realm normal SoO now then? :o |
| 20:17.53 | Mr_Rabies | either way, i get to kill garrosh more often now yaaaay |
| 20:18.03 | Semlar | what now |
| 20:18.07 | kd3 | I haven't logged in to check, it'd make sense... |
| 20:18.13 | Mr_Rabies | nowdays we're just hitting up heroics |
| 20:18.31 | Mr_Rabies | so it'd be nice to get into a nice pug with 3/4 of my group that can make a non-raid night and go ahead and kill garrosh for a chance at the heirloom |
| 20:23.06 | Fisker | I need sleep |
| 20:23.55 | Semlar | well SoO is in the raid browser but that doesn't mean it'll show people from other servers |
| 20:24.34 | Silvanas | does anyone know a quick way to filter our duplicates in a lua array? |
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| 20:24.39 | Semlar | when i tested its cross realm support a while back the only things it showed cross realm players in were the 2 world bosses and flex |
| 20:24.57 | kd3|hate`net | that's all it supported before today |
| 20:25.07 | kd3|hate`net | maybe they flipped the bits to support normal/heroic now? |
| 20:25.12 | Mr_Rabies | i don't see anyone in the list but |
| 20:25.18 | Mr_Rabies | news may not have spread yet |
| 20:25.26 | Semlar | i see someone and they're from my server |
| 20:26.12 | Mr_Rabies | i guess that's that then |
| 20:26.18 | Mr_Rabies | because i see no one |
| 20:26.26 | Gethe | it seems they did not update the raid browser |
| 20:26.26 | Semlar | no, because it's limited to your data center |
| 20:27.06 | Semlar | you'd have to test it with a player from your own server group |
| 20:27.10 | Gethe | just had a friend look me up, and she didnt see me |
| 20:27.11 | Semlar | but not on your server |
| 20:27.33 | Semlar | check this list http://wowpedia.org/US_realm_list_by_datacenter |
| 20:27.37 | kd3 | http://wowpedia.org/US_realm_list_by_datacenter |
| 20:27.40 | kd3 | pretend the ny realms are in chicago |
| 20:27.55 | Gethe | yeah ive grouped for flex with people from her server so it would have worked |
| 20:28.06 | Semlar | from the raid browser? |
| 20:28.09 | Gethe | yeah |
| 20:28.46 | Semlar | i honestly would be surprised if they bothered to enable xrealm support for it in the raid browser since they neglected practically all of the other raids |
| 20:29.09 | Semlar | even though you can do all of them across realms |
| 20:29.24 | Gethe | yeah |
| 20:29.34 | Semlar | which RUINED my idea for an addon that would use that for cross realm communication |
| 20:29.52 | Semlar | i hope they're happy |
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| 20:32.16 | Semlar | on the plus side when i got invited to an ordos group earlier my addon properly identified it as a pvp invite |
| 20:32.41 | Gethe | nice! |
| 20:32.42 | Semlar | so that's one successful test i'm going to assume it works perfectly |
| 20:33.28 | Gethe | openRaid be scrambling |
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| 22:29.00 | pompy | http://nerdreactor.com/2014/03/18/walmart-joins-in-on-the-used-video-game-market/ lol |
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| 23:25.39 | kd3 | whee, java 8 is out. I wonder how broken everything is |
| 23:26.14 | Dashkal | I don't think any of the jvm stuff I wanted made it. *sigh* |
| 23:26.47 | Dashkal | wtb tailcall |
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| 23:40.51 | ALPHATT | Hey guys I need help related to CastingBarFrame |
| 23:41.29 | ALPHATT | I'm not designing a whole addon, I just want to move the Default blizz casting bar because I play arenas. |
| 23:42.13 | ALPHATT | I used these 2 lines CastingBarFrame:ClearAllPoints(); CastingBarFrame:SetPoint("CENTER",UIParent,"CENTER",0,-175) |
| 23:43.01 | ALPHATT | But after a short while about 2-3 minutes, the position resets, I'm not changing parties or doing anything differently, not zoning or anything |
| 23:43.22 | ALPHATT | It's annoying because even if I macro it, it resets mid battle. |
| 23:43.36 | ALPHATT | How could I solve this issue? |
| 23:43.48 | Primer | get quartz |
| 23:44.09 | ALPHATT | No I don't want to use quartz because I'm healing with blizz frames |
| 23:44.19 | ALPHATT | and sometimes quartz taints the frames |
| 23:44.40 | ALPHATT | I just want to use blitt bar if at all possible |
| 23:44.40 | TC-Work | Move anything? |
| 23:44.48 | Primer | unlikely |
| 23:45.00 | ALPHATT | ? |
| 23:45.11 | Primer | that quartz is tainting |
| 23:45.16 | Primer | it's more likely something else is |
| 23:45.17 | Gnarfoz | I'd say |
| 23:45.19 | ALPHATT | I've been using quartz for long, just wanted to see if I could just do this instead |
| 23:45.45 | ALPHATT | Its not a big issue, I was just wondering. |
| 23:46.01 | Primer | I've found that when Move Anything can't properly move a frame, that it's tied to the minimap |
| 23:46.11 | Primer | in which case I use chinchilla to move it |
| 23:46.23 | Primer | but I doubt the blizz cast bars are tied to the minimap |
| 23:46.33 | Primer | anyhow, I have zero issues with quartz |
| 23:46.49 | ALPHATT | Date: 2014-03-18 04:22:13 ID: -79 Error occured in: AddOn: Quartz Count: 1 Message: Note: AddOn Quartz attempted to call a protected function (CompactRaidFrame3:SetAttribute()) during combat lockdown. |
| 23:47.00 | Primer | that wasn't quartz |
| 23:47.02 | Primer | that was something else |
| 23:47.19 | Gnarfoz | paging foxlit |
| 23:47.20 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 23:47.24 | Primer | uninstall quartz and you'll see that jumps to another addon |
| 23:47.38 | Gnarfoz | d'awww he's not here |
| 23:47.44 | ALPHATT | Ahh I see |
| 23:47.47 | ALPHATT | thanks |
| 23:48.06 | ALPHATT | I know that skada and recount taint blizz frames a lotű |
| 23:48.12 | Gnarfoz | (in short: correctly interpreting taint.log is a dark and mysterious craft) |
| 23:48.17 | Primer | those are bogus too |
| 23:48.26 | ALPHATT | really? |
| 23:48.27 | Primer | yes |
| 23:48.39 | ALPHATT | Damn |
| 23:48.40 | Gnarfoz | can't speak for Recount, but I know Skada's StaticPopup taint vectors have all been eliminated -- since it doesn't use it anymore |
| 23:48.52 | ALPHATT | So how do I catch the guy? |
| 23:49.01 | ALPHATT | It usually happens when people join and leave in bgs |
| 23:49.28 | ALPHATT | And raidframes become unclickable, and overlap each other, also they are no longer scalable |
| 23:49.49 | Gnarfoz | without trying to make it sound more dreadful than it is: the only way you can be sure, without being well versed in taint.log reading, is only having 1 addon enabled at a time |
| 23:49.59 | Primer | yup |
| 23:50.01 | Primer | that |
| 23:50.17 | Gnarfoz | (it sucks) |
| 23:50.28 | Gnarfoz | of course you can apply binary search to the problem |
| 23:50.29 | Gnarfoz | to narrow it down |
| 23:50.40 | ALPHATT | I hate this so much. Blizz frames are such delicate flowers when it comes to this. |
| 23:50.50 | ALPHATT | but for pvp healing it's so good |
| 23:50.51 | Primer | Have you tried gladius? |
| 23:51.01 | ALPHATT | yeah but thats enemy frames |
| 23:51.11 | Primer | indeed |
| 23:51.14 | ALPHATT | I need friendly frames, and for bgs too where there are 10-15 ppl |
| 23:51.18 | Primer | I just use PB4 for raid frames |
| 23:51.47 | ALPHATT | I need to see debuffs like slows, snares and warlock dots and such |
| 23:51.50 | Gnarfoz | I wonder if we had less issues if Blizzard's addons had to obey the secure system, too |
| 23:51.57 | ALPHATT | blizz frames were the best so far for that |
| 23:51.59 | Gnarfoz | (fewer?) |
| 23:52.07 | Primer | I disagree |
| 23:52.12 | Semlar | probably not |
| 23:52.38 | Primer | I can make PB4 look exactly how I want to, for any occasion |
| 23:52.47 | Semlar | although i am surprised the raid frames break whenever the raid composition changes in combat |
| 23:52.59 | Gnarfoz | Blizzard's? |
| 23:53.01 | Semlar | yeah |
| 23:53.08 | Semlar | i use blizzard's raid frames |
| 23:53.14 | Gnarfoz | because properly done secure ones don't |
| 23:53.17 | Semlar | and if someone joins or leaves while you're in combat they completely break |
| 23:53.39 | ALPHATT | Oh those |
| 23:53.44 | ALPHATT | pb4 is actually quite nice ur right |
| 23:53.46 | Semlar | to be honest, i don't know why anyone's raid frames should break in combat |
| 23:53.55 | Semlar | there are secure methods to handle that |
| 23:55.56 | ALPHATT | i've seen this being an issue on the forums |
| 23:56.11 | TC-Work | Semlar: Because bads. |
| 23:56.14 | Gnarfoz | Semlar: I guess mostly: shoddy code |
| 23:56.19 | ALPHATT | Yeah |
| 23:56.22 | ALPHATT | Most likely |
| 23:56.24 | Semlar | i could easily write a set of simple raid frames that would never break like that |
| 23:56.50 | Gnarfoz | you could, but there's more than enough people with more ambition but less skills than you |
| 23:56.51 | Semlar | i was thinking about writing my own because i really don't like blizzard's that much |
| 23:57.01 | Gnarfoz | which results in: Lulzmasters Unitframes 4.11 |
| 23:57.06 | TC-Work | I still like praid |
| 23:57.07 | ALPHATT | damn |
| 23:57.17 | Gnarfoz | and Sparklyframes 0.1.00.2.4 beta |
| 23:57.19 | Semlar | hey, just because i'm super lazy doesn't mean i won't.. finish.. anything.. |
| 23:57.20 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 23:57.34 | TC-Work | but then jnwhiteh got all lazy n' shit. |
| 23:58.39 | Gnarfoz | dat jnwhiteh |
| 23:59.06 | TC-Work | and by lazy I mean he got his PhD, but that's really no excuse at all. |
