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| 02:29.15 | alestane | (Or maybe several dozen people are complaining on the forum, I haven't checked.) |
| 02:56.45 | kd3 | and down goes medivh, whee |
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| 03:20.47 | Arrowmaster | i started a new D3 character today and ive just now finally gotten to the butcher, im already level 31 |
| 03:21.02 | Arrowmaster | i remember when you could kill diablo and still not be level 31 |
| 03:21.37 | Arrowmaster | and im soloing master here, maybe i should up to to torment1 |
| 03:21.52 | kd3 | damn it wow, stop telling me I'm queued for something each time I zone |
| 03:30.44 | TC-Work | As far as I can tell, fresh 60's can skip straight to T1 |
| 03:42.24 | jleclanche | TC-Work: i saw the descriptions |
| 03:42.36 | jleclanche | "if you haven't played diablo 3 in a while, Hard is perfect for you" |
| 03:42.37 | jleclanche | what |
| 03:43.04 | jleclanche | i started with hard and it took me 5 tries to figure out that torment 3 was the right difficulty for my char and i hadnt played in over a year |
| 03:44.07 | TC-Work | Yea, just like I skiped from T1 to T3. |
| 03:44.25 | TC-Work | I moved to T2, but only because I was not killing shit fast enoughbn |
| 03:44.27 | TC-Work | enough* |
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| 06:47.07 | karl_w_w | it disappoints me when a company owns a domain name and it redirects to their facebook page |
| 06:47.16 | karl_w_w | I feel tricked! |
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| 08:34.26 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: There's the experience bonus, remember... |
| 08:36.31 | nevcairiel | is the 50% bonus still active? and of course master adds a bonus of its own |
| 08:42.24 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 08:42.25 | Fisker- | active until ros |
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| 09:16.29 | jnwhiteh | Fisker-: should I only level in Act 1? |
| 09:16.33 | jnwhiteh | Or go all the way through? |
| 09:16.48 | Stanzilla | for efficiency or fun? |
| 09:17.09 | jnwhiteh | Stanzilla: efficiency |
| 09:17.14 | jnwhiteh | and legendaries =) |
| 09:17.41 | Stanzilla | cat4 in act1 + crypt event in every game then |
| 09:17.50 | jnwhiteh | cat4? |
| 09:17.54 | jnwhiteh | pretend i'm dumb! |
| 09:17.55 | Stanzilla | cathedral level 4 |
| 09:18.24 | Stanzilla | you create a game with a quest after skeleton king |
| 09:18.34 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 09:18.35 | Stanzilla | use port to royal crypts |
| 09:18.51 | Stanzilla | and right there is cat4 |
| 09:19.10 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 09:19.15 | jnwhiteh | then where's the crypt event? |
| 09:19.18 | jnwhiteh | above? |
| 09:19.22 | Stanzilla | cemetary |
| 09:19.30 | Stanzilla | where you have 3 crypts at random |
| 09:19.37 | jleclanche | jnwhiteh: imo reset quests and do all |
| 09:19.39 | Stanzilla | there is always a quest in one of them |
| 09:19.48 | jnwhiteh | jleclanche: ya think? |
| 09:19.52 | jnwhiteh | but just act 1? |
| 09:19.53 | jleclanche | jnwhiteh: its fun and guarantees you a legendary on diablo |
| 09:20.06 | jnwhiteh | ah, all the way through |
| 09:20.08 | jnwhiteh | i'm 51 tho |
| 09:20.11 | jnwhiteh | so i'll finish way before that on this char |
| 09:20.23 | jleclanche | mmh |
| 09:20.26 | jleclanche | still |
| 09:20.31 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 09:20.32 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 09:20.39 | jleclanche | you get a legendary anyway i think. and if you get a lvl 60 one its all good |
| 09:20.48 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 09:21.10 | jnwhiteh | what difficulty level? |
| 09:21.23 | jleclanche | umm |
| 09:21.25 | Stanzilla | depends on your gear |
| 09:21.30 | jleclanche | id go for t1, maybe t2 if you have good gear/class |
| 09:21.40 | jleclanche | esp if you can get do it grouped you could go up to t3 |
| 09:21.46 | jleclanche | lvl 50ish can be tricky |
| 09:22.07 | jnwhiteh | lol i'm on normal right now |
| 09:22.13 | jleclanche | yeah dont level on normal |
| 09:22.25 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 09:22.26 | jleclanche | t1 is easy. maybe t0 or whatever its name was |
| 09:22.35 | jleclanche | on my wd i can do t1 and thats my worst char |
| 09:22.39 | jleclanche | (lvl 25ish) |
| 09:22.46 | jnwhiteh | haha |
| 09:22.47 | jnwhiteh | okay |
| 09:22.49 | Fisker- | hey jnwhiteh |
| 09:22.52 | jnwhiteh | Fisker-: hihi =) |
| 09:22.53 | jleclanche | on that note i really like what blizzard has done with all that |
| 09:23.09 | jleclanche | doing normal, hard, harder, oh yes even harder was stupid |
| 09:23.32 | jnwhiteh | man these guys are hard to kill |
| 09:23.41 | jnwhiteh | i only have 9k dps |
| 09:23.50 | jleclanche | was it expert or master below t1? |
| 09:23.58 | jnwhiteh | 10 full frost arrows to kill three zombies |
| 09:26.11 | nevcairiel | doing torment on a new char might work, but its not efficient anymore if all you want is to level to max |
| 09:26.42 | nevcairiel | might be better if you have a hellfire ring to wear |
| 09:27.22 | jnwhiteh | i dont |
| 09:27.23 | jleclanche | not efficient anymore? |
| 09:27.26 | jleclanche | what did they nerf? |
| 09:27.28 | jnwhiteh | i should probably get on my monk and figure out how to get one made? |
| 09:27.41 | jleclanche | hellfire ring is the 3-keys thing i think |
| 09:27.56 | nevcairiel | jleclanche: nothing nerfed, you can just do more xp/hour on one difficulty lower |
| 09:28.29 | jleclanche | yeah |
| 09:28.35 | jleclanche | thats why i was asking whats just below t1 |
| 09:28.44 | jleclanche | but imo grouped t2 or 3 is good |
| 09:28.49 | jleclanche | with good gear |
| 09:29.04 | nevcairiel | leveling, good gear is relative :p |
| 09:29.12 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 09:29.16 | jnwhiteh | i do not think I have good gear |
| 09:29.18 | jnwhiteh | and I'm currently solo |
| 09:29.32 | Stanzilla | good gear = hellfire ring :D |
| 09:30.07 | nevcairiel | obtaining a hellfire ring is not something you do in an hour or so though |
| 09:30.19 | jleclanche | seriously? |
| 09:30.20 | jleclanche | oh, not |
| 09:30.40 | nevcairiel | gotta collect the 4 keys 4 times, or something |
| 09:31.11 | nevcairiel | 3 keys 3 times |
| 09:31.13 | nevcairiel | but still! |
| 09:31.17 | jleclanche | yeah 12 keys |
| 09:31.23 | jleclanche | and not guaranteed |
| 09:31.39 | jnwhiteh | yeah I cannot do T1 |
| 09:31.42 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 09:32.13 | nevcairiel | and it costs 2 million gold, which isn't all that much these days, but still |
| 09:32.17 | jnwhiteh | got a great legendary belt from it |
| 09:32.29 | nevcairiel | i never made one, maybe i'll do it on 70 |
| 09:35.05 | nevcairiel | hope the keys are the same at 70, i still have 3 :p |
| 09:40.39 | Fisker- | asd nevcairiel |
| 09:40.42 | Fisker- | asdfgsfds |
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| 09:40.51 | nevcairiel | wat |
| 09:42.14 | jleclanche | man, this mage arena deck is actually killing it |
| 09:42.48 | jnwhiteh | I can do master |
| 09:42.55 | jleclanche | jnwhiteh: is that the one below t1? |
| 09:43.03 | nevcairiel | it is |
| 09:43.39 | jleclanche | jesus mana wyrm can really spiral out of control |
| 09:44.10 | nevcairiel | normal, hard, expert, master, torment |
| 09:44.18 | nevcairiel | not sure anyone really needs to play normal to get by :p |
| 09:44.33 | nevcairiel | probably hard is even too easy |
| 09:44.37 | jleclanche | yeah they could really just merge expert and master |
| 09:45.40 | nevcairiel | torment can get annoying if you don't have gear, even if its doable it just takes ages to kill things, so running master before is usually a good advice |
| 09:50.47 | jnwhiteh | jleclanche: yeah |
| 09:50.50 | jnwhiteh | which hated generator? |
| 09:50.58 | jnwhiteh | suggestions? |
| 09:56.01 | Fisker- | do you carry battletoads? |
| 09:56.03 | Fisker- | also don't DH :( |
| 09:59.53 | jleclanche | jnwhiteh: i use the thingy |
| 09:59.54 | jleclanche | the arrow. |
| 10:00.53 | Stanzilla | wow |
| 10:00.56 | Stanzilla | such description |
| 10:00.59 | Stanzilla | many jerome |
| 10:03.53 | jnwhiteh | Fisker-: almost done |
| 10:03.56 | jnwhiteh | then I'll go onto something else |
| 10:03.58 | jnwhiteh | i've never WD'd |
| 10:04.00 | jnwhiteh | or Barb |
| 10:04.01 | jnwhiteh | only Monk/DH |
| 10:04.09 | Fisker- | ah |
| 10:04.10 | Fisker- | slack |
| 10:04.17 | jnwhiteh | if I have a private game |
| 10:04.18 | jnwhiteh | can you join it |
| 10:04.23 | jnwhiteh | or does it have to be public? |
| 10:04.39 | Fisker- | I'm playing HC |
| 10:04.50 | jnwhiteh | i mean hypothetically |
| 10:04.56 | Fisker- | leveling another softcore wizard to 60 would be madness |
| 10:04.57 | Fisker- | oh |
| 10:05.19 | jnwhiteh | oh |
| 10:05.22 | jnwhiteh | i have a wiz too i think |
| 10:05.40 | jnwhiteh | yeah I do |
| 10:05.43 | jnwhiteh | just barb/wd I've slacked on |
| 10:05.53 | Fisker- | I wish they would give us crusaders |
| 10:12.06 | jnwhiteh | fuck |
| 10:12.10 | jnwhiteh | i can't kill a treasure goblib |
| 10:12.11 | jnwhiteh | goblin |
| 10:12.14 | jnwhiteh | i need to do something about my dps |
| 10:13.37 | Stanzilla | jleclanche: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/steamlug/announcements/detail/1280452465050697758 |
| 10:14.32 | Fisker- | wait |
| 10:14.36 | Fisker- | I WANT MY LEGENDARIES |
| 10:14.47 | Fisker- | I thought the SK nerf was only for 60's |
| 10:30.43 | jleclanche | Stanzilla: I know |
| 10:31.14 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: thats like a week old |
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| 10:37.12 | jleclanche | malygos in arenas is funny |
| 10:37.18 | jleclanche | 9 dmg swipes go |
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| 11:34.15 | VIad | that's odd, pvper with full season 14 but no gems or enchants at all |
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| 11:43.08 | jleclanche | VIad: cloned right from the ptr! |
| 11:44.06 | VIad | this isn't the ptr :P |
| 11:44.36 | nevcairiel | thats why he said from |
| 11:45.12 | jleclanche | that's why i say a lot of things |
| 11:45.14 | VIad | I haven't heard about this; I'm sure it would be front page features listed functionality if you can copy over from ptr to live :P |
| 11:56.37 | jnwhiteh | can anyone come help me kill the skeleton king? |
| 11:56.41 | jnwhiteh | i don't have nearly enough DPS to do it |
| 11:57.44 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 11:58.02 | nevcairiel | but you should figure out how to improve your dps, next boss wont be any easier =) |
| 11:58.31 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 11:58.34 | jnwhiteh | i'm gathering that =) |
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| 12:38.36 | jnwhiteh | damn |
| 12:38.39 | jnwhiteh | keywarden, but no key |
| 12:40.14 | nevcairiel | only keys on torment |
| 12:42.56 | jnwhiteh | boo |
| 12:43.24 | nevcairiel | and even then not guaranteed until torment 6 i think |
| 12:43.30 | nevcairiel | or maybe not even there |
| 12:43.32 | nevcairiel | i forgot |
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| 12:45.39 | Fisker- | is it me or is hardcore also harder than softcore? |
| 12:45.51 | nevcairiel | not supposed to be i dont think |
| 12:46.05 | nevcairiel | except the whole dying thing |
| 12:46.07 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 12:46.21 | Fisker- | Champion packs are pretty much always in packs of 4 or 5 here |
| 12:46.37 | Fisker- | not to mention I didn't notice there was these blow up guys in Act 2 |
| 12:46.52 | nevcairiel | dead fisker is dead, permanently? |
| 12:47.00 | Fisker- | lol no |
| 12:47.03 | Fisker- | I'm not terrible |
| 12:47.14 | Fisker- | I said "harder than" not hard |
| 12:47.25 | nevcairiel | missing the blow up guys can be bad news |
| 12:47.37 | Fisker- | not on normal |
| 12:47.43 | nevcairiel | true |
| 12:47.47 | Fisker- | heck I don't even think it's possible to miss them |
| 12:47.52 | Fisker- | they take like 5 seconds to blow up |
| 12:48.09 | nevcairiel | arent they mostly in act 3 |
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| 12:49.03 | Fisker- | yes |
| 12:49.11 | Fisker- | There will come a day when I will use a potion, but today is not that day |
| 12:49.20 | nevcairiel | i frequently used to run into fun combi packs, 4 elites and one champion with his horde of minions, thats fun time to be had |
| 12:49.48 | nevcairiel | and that on torment with like 4 or 5 abilities each |
| 12:50.08 | Fisker- | :P |
| 12:50.21 | Fisker- | I honestly can't remember seeing any 5-champion packs in softcore |
| 12:50.29 | Fisker- | but I've met like 4 here the last hour or so |
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| 12:52.35 | Fisker- | a 3-man pack! |
| 12:52.42 | VIad | :D |
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| 13:14.09 | jnwhiteh | Fisker-: have anything for my barb? |
| 13:14.20 | Fisker- | only save legendaries |
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| 13:30.04 | Fisker- | now nevcairiel |
| 13:30.21 | Fisker- | maghda can be actually hard if you can't kill her before she summons adds and you try to focus her |
| 13:31.02 | nevcairiel | now what, you died? :p |
| 13:31.07 | nevcairiel | or had to drink |
| 13:31.57 | Fisker- | please nevcairiel |
| 13:31.59 | Fisker- | do understand |
| 13:32.02 | Fisker- | this is Diablo 3 |
| 13:32.03 | Fisker- | normal |
| 13:32.15 | Fisker- | I will never die |
| 13:32.19 | Fisker- | I will not have to drink potions |
| 13:32.36 | nevcairiel | then what now |
| 13:33.14 | Fisker- | discussing aspects of the game with you |
| 13:33.28 | nevcairiel | but its normal, it doesnt have many aspects |
| 13:34.37 | Fisker- | yes |
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| 13:40.59 | Fisker- | omg Stanzilla |
| 13:41.01 | Fisker- | it's happening |
| 13:41.31 | Fisker- | http://twimages.vr-zone.net/2014/03/broadwell-e.png |
| 13:42.15 | nevcairiel | wtf is ivytown |
| 13:42.42 | Fisker- | http://wccftech.com/intel-launch-xeon-e7-ivytown-ivy-bridgeex-processor-15-cores-30-threads/ |
| 13:42.43 | Fisker- | dat google |
| 13:43.01 | nevcairiel | so just ivy bridge ex |
| 13:44.36 | nevcairiel | anyway, broadwell-e would be like second half of 2015 |
| 13:46.09 | Fisker- | I had sex with your mother |
| 13:46.12 | Fisker- | :( |
| 13:47.22 | nevcairiel | could really go for a nice 8C Haswell-E though |
| 13:50.23 | Fisker- | yeah me too |
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| 14:26.51 | Jamash | there needs to be a secret handshake to get past tier one support |
| 14:27.41 | Jamash | I reported my Hearthstone issue and they were all repair tool herpty derp |
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| 14:34.04 | karl_w_w | did you run the repair tool? :P |
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| 15:08.48 | VIad | do you find "negro" offensive? |
| 15:09.38 | Kalroth | yes |
| 15:11.30 | VIad | what about turboneger? :P |
| 15:12.34 | VIad | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbonegro |
| 15:15.45 | VIad | lol |
| 15:15.49 | VIad | kalroth don't be offended |
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| 15:26.36 | Jamash | karl_w_w: I ran the repair tool and it did nothing whatsoever |
| 15:27.39 | Jamash | Vlad: I like their style... "Initially, the band had two running ideas for band names: Nazipenis and Turbonegro. They were advised that a band named Nazipenis would never sell records, so they chose Turbonegro as a more consumer-friendly choice." |
| 15:27.57 | VIad | :D |
| 15:28.07 | Jamash | (they're actually anti-racism) |
| 15:28.24 | VIad | I know, but a lot of people find negro/neger enough to label you as racist :P |
| 15:29.03 | Jamash | yeah well people find niggardly to be racist so what does that tell you about the level of literacy in public discourse |
| 15:29.39 | VIad | I am quite niggardly |
| 15:29.51 | VIad | I only buy what I absolutely need/want but that's it |
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| 15:29.58 | Jamash | I try not to be but I'm "poor" so it's hard not to |
| 15:30.11 | VIad | :( |
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| 15:30.31 | Jamash | well I finally defeated the healthcare dragon and got my nuvigil so I can start applying for jobs |
| 15:31.03 | Jamash | only took 2.5 months |
| 15:31.40 | Jamash | I should do a kickstarter for $30 so I can buy a wow timecard and work on my addon |
| 15:35.57 | Shirik | why is every star trek vessel equipped with a bridge in an extremely vulnerable location |
| 15:36.37 | haste | it looks nicer on the outside |
| 15:36.46 | Jamash | so you can see out the windows |
| 15:36.59 | Jamash | ...at the top of the room |
| 15:37.05 | Jamash | ...that nobody ever looks out of |
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| 15:37.28 | Jamash | basically what haste said |
| 15:37.36 | karl_w_w | http://www.twitch.tv/taketv/b/509247476 the match starting at 11 hours 53 minutes is pretty damn funny |
| 15:39.17 | Jamash | loltosis |
| 15:43.31 | Jamash | karl_w_w: that was hilarious |
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| 16:29.50 | Jamash | I wub blizzard devs. From FrameXML\FlowContainer.lua: "--To make things easier to understand, I'll comment this as if it was horizontal. To see the vertical comments, just turn your head 90 degrees." |
| 16:30.14 | Mr_Rabies | hmm i think it's fair to say that the bnet app has a memory leak now |
| 16:30.20 | Mr_Rabies | it's using 400 MB of RAM doing absolutely nothing right now |
| 16:30.30 | Jamash | buh |
| 16:30.50 | Jamash | what OS? |
| 16:31.00 | Mr_Rabies | vista :v |
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| 16:33.39 | Mr_Rabies | restarted it, back down to 40MB |
| 16:33.40 | Mr_Rabies | weird |
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| 16:50.14 | pompy1 | http://venturebeat.com/2014/03/15/mozilla-kills-metro-windows-8-firefox-plans-claims-interest-has-been-pretty-flat/ |
| 17:01.15 | Jamash | good |
| 17:02.12 | Jamash | Didn't Microsoft already kill the "Metro" name? |
| 17:02.38 | nevcairiel | they did, but only because the Metro company sued about it, so everyone else still keeps using it |
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| 17:21.30 | Fisker- | let's get dirty nevcairiel |
| 17:27.05 | Shirik | siiigh |
| 17:27.11 | Shirik | now I have to figure out http://pastebin.com/D5Y0d8Jk |
| 17:27.14 | Shirik | stabby stab |
| 17:31.11 | nevcairiel | your network has the hiccups |
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| 17:50.37 | Shirik | "Mozilla on Friday abruptly canceled the release of its touch-enabled Firefox browser for Windows 8, just four days before it was to ship and after two years of work." |
| 17:50.43 | Shirik | aka "We couldn't finish it in time" |
| 17:53.02 | VIad | hmm, doubt it, but gonna ask anyways! is this possible: if target is an enemy, and the targettarget is a friend, cast spell X |
| 17:55.22 | j311yf1sh | addons cant cast spells? or atleast from memory |
| 17:55.34 | VIad | sadly my /cast [harm][@targettarget,help] X don't work :p |
| 17:55.47 | VIad | because I gotta combine two if's and not just one :P |
| 17:56.38 | j311yf1sh | doesnt [harm] mean it will only cast if its harmful? if your targets target is a friend it wont be? |
| 17:56.40 | nevcairiel | just do /stopmacro [help] before it :p |
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| 18:27.21 | Fisker- | Almost done nevcairiel |
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| 18:29.09 | squeese | Hey, wondering if anyone know why Cooldown frame wont "render" when set to frame level set to more than 3 (or being a child frame which makes it 4 or more) |
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| 18:35.27 | Fisker- | funny how it started lagging when I changed to master difficulty nevcairiel |
| 18:37.40 | Fisker- | omg |
| 18:37.55 | Fisker- | I almost dun goofed up my hc hero there |
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| 18:56.10 | VIad | nevcairiel: I mean't I want my spell to cast only if my target is an enemy, and that enemy targets a friendly :P |
| 18:56.28 | VIad | atm my macro just does targettarget so if I target a friendly that targets me, I'll heal myself :P |
| 18:56.39 | VIad | the idea is to heal the tank when I target the boss |
| 18:57.18 | VIad | but if I target a friendly I just wanna heal that guy, so it's two rules into one, I somehow gotta do that >.< |
| 19:03.10 | nevcairiel | VIad: [help][@targettarget,help] |
| 19:03.22 | VIad | hmm |
| 19:03.40 | VIad | I guess that should do it |
| 19:03.54 | nevcairiel | thats what I use for bartender4's auto-assist function |
| 19:05.55 | batrick | Shirik: your C++ is shit |
| 19:06.04 | Shirik | wat |
| 19:06.14 | batrick | i recently experienced the joys that is references vs. pointers |
| 19:06.19 | batrick | something i've somehow avoided up until now |
| 19:06.42 | batrick | e.g. expects a "unsigned int &foo", you literally pass the unsigned int |
| 19:06.46 | batrick | and pointer voodoo happens |
| 19:07.09 | Shirik | I have no idea what you're complaining about |
| 19:07.21 | batrick | ugh |
| 19:07.37 | batrick | http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_35_0/doc/html/boost/interprocess/message_queue.html |
| 19:07.47 | batrick | e.g. that receive method |
| 19:07.55 | batrick | you would do: |
| 19:08.05 | batrick | unsigned int a; mq.receive(..., a); |
| 19:08.10 | batrick | pointer voodoo! |
| 19:08.26 | Shirik | why is this bad? |
| 19:08.51 | batrick | because it completely fucks up pass-by-value semantics |
| 19:09.06 | batrick | when the language automagically permutes values into references |
| 19:09.25 | Fisker- | Shirik |
| 19:10.00 | Shirik | I do tend to agree that using references for outvalues is evil |
| 19:10.14 | Shirik | all features can be abused |
| 19:10.19 | Shirik | I generally hate boost with a passion... so |
| 19:10.27 | Shirik | you're not going to convince me of much with their shitty design |
| 19:10.32 | batrick | that feature shouldn't exist |
| 19:10.38 | Shirik | it should exist |
| 19:10.52 | batrick | i don't see why C++ doesn't have you do &a |
| 19:10.55 | batrick | in the above example |
| 19:11.00 | Shirik | because that creates a pointer |
| 19:11.06 | Shirik | theoretically you could create something else, I guess |
| 19:11.08 | Shirik | some other operator |
| 19:11.30 | batrick | ya see i'd be okay with that |
| 19:11.40 | Shirik | but pointers and references are very distinct |
| 19:11.42 | Shirik | and that is a good thing |
| 19:11.48 | Shirik | we actually have a policy which relies on that fact |
| 19:12.04 | Shirik | it is impossible (without using undefined behavior) to make a reference point to NULL |
| 19:12.29 | Shirik | for that reason, we require that pointers always be checked, but ignoring a check on a reference is OK |
| 19:12.36 | batrick | well sure |
| 19:12.47 | Shirik | A pointer SHALL NOT be dereferenced unless its value has been conclusively proven to be non-NULL within the function in which it is dereferenced. |
| 19:13.22 | batrick | anyway, i have no problem with the concept of references |
| 19:13.28 | batrick | it is the syntax and semantics i hate |
| 19:13.39 | Shirik | I think it would be reasonable to have an operator to make a reference |
| 19:13.45 | batrick | for which, C++ has unforgivably erred |
| 19:13.47 | Shirik | it would get really weird with rvalue references now |
| 19:13.48 | Shirik | though |
| 19:14.05 | Shirik | granted rvalue references probably wouldn't have existed (or would have existed in some other form) if that operator had existed |
| 19:14.32 | Shirik | you could always make your own reference :P |
| 19:14.58 | batrick | anyway, i was pissed because i didn't understand why it wouldn't accpet a pointer to my unsigned int |
| 19:15.07 | batrick | i had to google everywhere to find an example |
| 19:15.10 | batrick | which ended up blowing my mind |
| 19:16.04 | batrick | nice having this yearly chat Shirik, toodles |
| 19:16.05 | Shirik | template <class T> class Ref { T& p_; Ref(T& v):p_(v) {}; explicit T& operator (T&)() { return p_; }}; |
| 19:16.07 | Shirik | bam |
| 19:16.10 | Shirik | there's your new ref class |
| 19:16.18 | Shirik | I think it works |
| 19:16.21 | batrick | that makes no sense to me |
| 19:16.49 | Shirik | it's just a wrapper class |
| 19:16.52 | Shirik | which acts like a reference |
| 19:17.07 | Shirik | and so you can accept Ref<T> objects instead |
| 19:17.12 | Shirik | and require that people go Ref(v) |
| 19:17.16 | batrick | it's incredible to me how C++ has this awkward balance of concise and short syntax and then very verbose keywords like "explicit" sprinkled in |
| 19:17.22 | Shirik | oh the constructor needs to be explicit too |
| 19:17.51 | Shirik | I think it's C's fault |
| 19:18.01 | Shirik | I think C++ would be so much better if it hadn't started from C |
| 19:18.03 | batrick | C has very few verbose keywords |
| 19:18.15 | Shirik | no I mean that's why it's both ways |
| 19:18.19 | batrick | i think C++ would be much better if it were crowdsourced designed |
| 19:18.48 | batrick | like python, it's a language that suffers from trying to please everyone |
| 19:19.06 | Shirik | and so we have 2 pythons |
| 19:20.43 | batrick | s/were/were not/ |
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| 19:41.07 | pumba | anyone wanna do 2s? |
| 19:41.09 | pumba | h0rde |
| 19:46.26 | Shirik | "Quarantined by Spam keyword policy (due to content: '.co.uk')" |
| 19:46.33 | Shirik | This has got to be the worst idea anyone has ever had |
| 19:47.33 | Fisker | I don't believe that it is Shirik |
| 19:47.41 | Fisker | .de would be a nice addition too |
| 19:56.27 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7MuwPlOiNQ <3 facebook |
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| 20:13.24 | Jamash | http://gabrielecirulli.github.io/2048/ |
| 20:13.45 | Dagmar | Shirik: Plonk all teh things! |
| 20:16.41 | Jamash | C++ would be better if it didn't exist |
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| 20:51.13 | kd3 | oh gods, this is ridiculous |
| 20:53.33 | Ressy | ? |
| 20:55.03 | kd3 | queue for IoC (15 min or so), 3 min after I get in medivh crashes |
| 20:55.21 | Ressy | lovely.. Medivh's unstable now that its been merged huh |
| 20:55.25 | kd3 | I've gotten booted from an IoC 3 times now because of medioxdar's flakiness |
| 20:55.41 | Gnarfoz | nice autocorrect |
| 20:55.59 | Gnarfoz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjbPszSt5Pc :O |
| 21:01.47 | Ressy | talented |
| 21:02.19 | nevcairiel | is it just me, or is youtube having more bandwidth issues as usual today |
| 21:02.33 | nevcairiel | wonder if i had a bad server again |
| 21:03.06 | Ressy | my ISP has a google cache in their datacenter. *shrugs* Something like 80gbps link to it. |
| 21:03.50 | nevcairiel | my isp refuses to cooperate with google, so the peering to youtube is terrible =P |
| 21:04.02 | nevcairiel | or whatever isp they use anyway |
| 21:04.26 | Ressy | I'm friends with the network director.. He just changed routing to Blizzard, because our peering was having issues, causing problems with Diablo3 (which he loves to play). |
| 21:06.12 | Ressy | fixed issues for Blizzard, as well as a few other games due to the problem being cogent -> ATT&T |
| 21:34.05 | karl_w_w | http://www.mwave.com.au/product/synology-diskstation-ds2413-series-nas-12-bays-dual-core-213ghz-cpu-2gb-aa38054 who on earth needs a 12 bay nas enclosure? |
| 21:35.23 | Semlar | pirates |
| 21:41.13 | karl_w_w | but that one isn't waterproof Semlar |
| 21:49.41 | Gnarfoz | just build it yourself |
| 21:50.39 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: how you can even consider this might be a yt problem, not DTAG, is beyond me ;p are you using their proxy for yt? (which solves the issue for many videos) |
| 21:57.10 | nevcairiel | even downloading chrome with its own installer is crawling today |
| 21:57.12 | nevcairiel | it takes ages |
| 21:57.24 | nevcairiel | is doing a fresh setup on his htpc |
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| 22:18.15 | Blazeflack | Good evening. Can anyone point me in the direction of the creator of the http://addon.bool.no/ service? |
| 22:18.37 | Blazeflack | I would like to report a bug, but there is no contact information on the site |
| 22:35.21 | Seerah | I can't right remember, Blazeflack... You may be able to find the original post about it on the wowinterface forums... |
| 22:49.07 | jleclanche | thats a neat site |
| 22:49.27 | jleclanche | needs more autocomplete |
| 22:49.29 | Blazeflack | I will try, thanks Seerah |
| 22:52.26 | MiRai | VIad is the creator of addon.bool.no |
| 22:52.44 | VIad | oh |
| 22:52.47 | VIad | another bug? |
| 22:53.39 | VIad | Blazeflack: just write me when ever you like and I'll look at the issue |
| 22:56.02 | Blazeflack | Oh cool. |
| 22:56.47 | VIad | let me guess, issues with unicode/utf8 or escaped characters like '"/\ e.g. |
| 22:56.56 | Blazeflack | Correct :p |
| 22:57.00 | Blazeflack | it replaces single and double quotes |
| 22:57.16 | Blazeflack | with " as example for double quotes |
| 22:57.19 | VIad | hmm |
| 22:58.37 | Blazeflack | I haven't tried escaping the quotes before downloading the addon |
| 22:59.23 | Blazeflack | No dice, just outputs \" |
| 23:02.59 | kd3 | damn it blizz, fix your shit |
| 23:09.04 | VIad | Blazeflack: I think I fixed it now |
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| 23:16.24 | Blazeflack | Fantastic, will test it in a sec. |
| 23:17.33 | Blazeflack | Yeah seems to work fine now. Thanks for the swift action |
| 23:20.58 | Semlar | anyone know if boss2 can exist without boss1 |
| 23:22.30 | Semlar | i was thinking i could just register a unit watch for boss1 to detect if you were in a boss fight |
| 23:28.18 | jleclanche | Semlar: boss2 wont exist without boss1 |
| 23:28.36 | jleclanche | and yes that sounds reasonable but not foolproof (especially for older bosses and instance bosses) |
| 23:28.54 | Semlar | yeah, i just wanted something simple to start combatlog logging in a boss fight |
| 23:29.25 | Semlar | i think any fights that matter should have a boss unit |
| 23:29.59 | jleclanche | Semlar: you could check how dbm does it |
| 23:30.04 | jleclanche | though i suspect they hardcode a lot of shit |
| 23:30.12 | Semlar | they do |
| 23:30.17 | jleclanche | or recount maybe? |
| 23:30.26 | jleclanche | they might be better on that end |
| 23:30.30 | Semlar | a lot of bosses have custom pull functions |
| 23:31.03 | jleclanche | afk |
| 23:44.30 | Gethe | they did add an ENCOUNTER_START combat event, but some bosses like Norushen crap all over it |
| 23:46.42 | Semlar | the framexml watches for INSTANCE_ENCOUNTER_ENGAGE_UNIT to control their boss frames |
| 23:47.17 | VIad | tbh INSTANCE_ENCOUNTER_ENGAGE_UNIT should fire all the time when you pull anything :P |
| 23:48.06 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:48.30 | Semlar | i guess i'll find out |
| 23:50.09 | Gethe | http://i.imgur.com/MMm7nFu.png?1 |
| 23:51.51 | Semlar | i was going to hook the default ui's boss frame but i'm sure some people disable those |
| 23:52.06 | Gethe | yup |
| 23:56.19 | VIad | login on youtube account, clear cookies with "google" in their name, login on google account -> logged on google with one account and youtube with my youtube account :D |
| 23:57.24 | VIad | ugh, I am dead tired. slept 4 hours, woke up like 20 hours ago so no sleep for soo long :( |
