| 00:04.59 | Neffi | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/02/internet-guffaws-at-senators-quixotic-proposal-to-ban-bitcoin/ |
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| 00:18.59 | Amarande | hmm |
| 00:19.03 | Amarande | Nephalem Valor has been removed from the game |
| 00:19.23 | Amarande | sooo ... do Keywardens always have a chance to drop keys now or can you no longer get a Hellfire Ring if you haven't got the keys yet, and any keys you do have are now trash? |
| 00:19.37 | Wobin | http://go-slander-24341.usw1.nitrousbox.com:8500/ a timer site for ESO |
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| 00:27.52 | Sintacks | i wish curse client would let me set a dir for WoW that isn't actually the WoW dir |
| 00:28.23 | Jamash | In my first post-patch D3 session, my level 60 wizard's Damage increased by 207% and I got a level 60 legendary ring and a level 70 legendary crafting material |
| 00:28.57 | Wobin | can you fake it out with a junction? |
| 00:29.03 | Wobin | Sintacks: ^ |
| 00:29.05 | Sintacks | AddOns are in C:\Games\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns.Full, but WoW thinks they are in the normal folder... cuz symlinks. and i have symlinks of what I use in another UI in C:\Games\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns.Lite |
| 00:29.31 | Amarande | hmm, enemies scale with your character's level now |
| 00:29.41 | Jamash | I feel like for the first time I am playing the Diablo III I asked for |
| 00:29.43 | Sintacks | So curse will update addons with the symlink, but if i have the wrong set of links up, it'll delete the symlinks in AddOns.Lite and install the addon again |
| 00:29.46 | Amarande | is there a cap per difficulty, or does this mean that things like the Cain's Fate recipe are going to get even more incredibly rare? |
| 00:29.59 | Amarande | because you can't go back to fight lower level mobs anymore to get stuff for alts, I presume? |
| 00:30.22 | Jamash | Amarande: Probably |
| 00:31.04 | Jamash | On the other hand, who cares? Your alts are going to be finding loot that's vastly better than they did before |
| 00:31.27 | Amarande | hm. did I miss something saying paragon level is account wide now? |
| 00:31.56 | Amarande | I'd say the worst thing is that you can't trade gold at all now, though :( |
| 00:32.16 | Neffi_ | ESO is having another stress this weekend. If you didnt get a key, I have an extra key |
| 00:32.25 | Neffi_ | They emailed me a key for a friend |
| 00:32.37 | Amarande | It's saddening if you were thinking of getting a friend into the game and you have a lot of gold :( |
| 00:32.54 | Amarande | usually, if you have a large surplus (which I most definitely do in D3) it's a nice thing to do to give your friend some money to get started with |
| 00:33.05 | Amarande | but ... nope, Blizzard decided to be mean on that one LOL |
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| 00:35.28 | Amarande | interesting, EHP is now listed on your character screen |
| 00:35.41 | Amarande | wonder how accurate it is, given Diablo games' penchant for LCS's :) |
| 00:36.07 | Mr_Rabies | can you throw gold on the ground in d3? |
| 00:39.21 | Amarande | doesn't look like it |
| 00:39.24 | Amarande | wow ... SPACE, I have space |
| 00:39.48 | TC-Work | I doubt it since you can no longer trade it |
| 00:40.26 | Amarande | ah, they did lower the cost of crafting |
| 00:40.28 | Amarande | WTF |
| 00:40.34 | Amarande | I HAVE TO PICK UP NORMAL CRAP NOW TO CRAFT |
| 00:40.36 | Amarande | *le sigh* |
| 00:40.50 | Amarande | gone are the days of being able to just ignore everything but the magic and higher :( |
| 00:43.25 | Nefdroid | dis battery life. just dropped 15% by launching yaaic |
| 00:43.42 | Nefdroid | i need a new phone >_> |
| 00:44.04 | Jamash | my treasure goblin picks up normals for me |
| 00:44.22 | Jamash | and turns them into rares |
| 00:44.26 | Jamash | nom nom nom nom nom burp |
| 00:44.37 | Mr_Rabies | do what now |
| 00:44.43 | Jamash | also I see items sell for real amounts of gold |
| 00:45.10 | Amarande | Jamash: to craft, you now need a new material that's salvaged from normal white tier items |
| 00:45.20 | Amarande | ... the crap we usually just leave on the ground to save space :( |
| 00:45.26 | Jamash | Mr_Rabies: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/puzzle-ring |
| 00:45.31 | Jamash | Amarande: ^ |
| 00:46.09 | Mr_Rabies | neat, but the stats kinda suck, what's the level range on the rares that it'll make? |
| 00:47.01 | Jamash | well the first thing he coughed up was a level 59 DH crossbow |
| 00:47.12 | Jamash | for my wizard, yay? |
| 00:50.20 | Jamash | so I guess it's based on character level |
| 00:50.34 | Jamash | http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Mooninaut-1220/hero/39503037 has it equipped, the stats aren't bad as rolled |
| 00:54.21 | Sintacks | anyone know of a way to change the way buffs move in default frames? |
| 00:54.33 | Jamash | especially as a level 29 item for a level 60 character |
| 01:03.06 | Amarande | Jamash: here's what's worse |
| 01:03.09 | Amarande | you don't GET normal item drops anymore |
| 01:03.22 | Jamash | Sure you do |
| 01:03.23 | Amarande | in order to craft, we're going to have to crawl around indoor mazes ad nauseam, apparently |
| 01:03.37 | Amarande | apparently whites only drop from containers now |
| 01:03.59 | Jamash | sometimes white crafting mats drop |
| 01:04.05 | Jamash | I doubt it will be a problem |
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| 01:19.38 | kd3 | whee, more sc2 WCS action going down right now: http://twitch.tv/wcs_america |
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| 01:44.19 | Amarande | Jamash: they are a tad irritatingly rare |
| 01:44.33 | Amarande | I cleaned out a few levels in Act 3, I got *one* white item and *one* dropped common debris |
| 01:45.28 | Amarande | hm, and one grey item, apparently those count same as white |
| 01:51.53 | kd3 | bleh. a relatively-unknown protoss won against a popular terran, and now jaedong is in trouble against a different protoss player. as if the community wasn't already pissed at protoss enough |
| 01:57.33 | kd3 | and now the casters are mocking JD's propensity to finish in second? ouch |
| 02:03.28 | VIad1 | oh SHNAP bros |
| 02:03.34 | VIad1 | I think I made my taxi timer calculator work |
| 02:03.37 | VIad1 | :o |
| 02:04.40 | VIad1 | using dbc coordinates, dijkstra graph with weighted nodes (distance from start to end) and catmull splines to even out the trajectory of the node paths (thats what the game does too) |
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| 02:18.06 | kd3 | and down goes JD. holy crap. |
| 02:18.34 | kd3 | wait, what? eliminated in the round of 32? O_O |
| 02:19.58 | Amarande | yay, act 4 is a better place than act 3 for white items. |
| 02:28.42 | Wobin | And in the "I Can't Believe They Made A Movie From This Video Game" Department, who brought you such great hits like Tekken: a Need for Speed movie? Really? |
| 02:29.21 | Wobin | VIad1: wouldn't it be easier to store flight times from actually flying them? |
| 02:29.41 | Amarande | Wobin: actually, there's addons that do just that |
| 02:29.55 | Amarande | it's how I remember some fairly dismal facts |
| 02:30.09 | Amarande | like the fact that as horde, each trip to Karazhan cost me 11 and a half minutes of my life that I will never get back |
| 02:30.21 | Amarande | actually a little more than that :P |
| 02:30.31 | Amarande | that's just how long it takes to fly from Undercity to Stonard |
| 02:30.47 | Amarande | and I don't think Grom'gol was much better |
| 02:30.59 | VIad | Wobin: why bother having users collect data when you can map it all right from the files? |
| 02:34.20 | Wobin | Cause it's work you don't have to do? =) |
| 02:36.16 | VIad | ehm |
| 02:36.29 | VIad | you realize current flight timer addons usually log the past flight times into some db? |
| 02:36.48 | VIad | first time flying you have a "?" timer or a time based on someone else that submitted their data log from their actuall flight time |
| 02:36.56 | VIad | this is hardcore biased |
| 02:37.10 | VIad | not to mention a lot of less used flight paths never get updated, showing old timers |
| 02:38.11 | Wobin | well certainly... but flight times aren't particularly mission critical... |
| 02:38.13 | VIad | I think calculating the time based on real numbers is the more accurate way to do this, not to mention you don't have to fly a single flight path to get the time you'd spend on one |
| 02:38.23 | Wobin | and I mostly implied that you store your own flight times |
| 02:38.28 | VIad | yes |
| 02:38.43 | VIad | but usually those I know about I already have a sense how long it will take |
| 02:39.16 | VIad | could make an addon to show the time it takes to fly to a node when you mouse over it :) |
| 02:40.45 | Stanzilla | VIad: do that |
| 02:40.53 | VIad | working on it |
| 02:40.57 | Stanzilla | than also calculate how long it would take with a normal mount |
| 02:41.04 | Stanzilla | and suggest the quicker way |
| 02:41.08 | Stanzilla | *then |
| 02:41.32 | Amarande | Wow, Mt Gox went out of business |
| 02:43.25 | VIad | testing out flying from sw to westfall |
| 02:43.36 | VIad | says with perk it's 53.9 sec :p |
| 02:44.12 | Amarande | or maybe. they claim to be temporarily down. |
| 02:44.21 | Amarande | but then, we know temporarily is one of *those* words on the Internet |
| 02:44.25 | Amarande | kinda like the S word :) |
| 02:46.26 | VIad | took 4 more seconds because the flight speed wasn't the usual ~30 but was ~28 this time, weird |
| 02:50.27 | Wobin | "S"andwich? |
| 02:51.05 | VIad | the starting node decides your speed |
| 02:51.19 | VIad | the variations are large, anything between 22 and 32 atm |
| 02:51.27 | VIad | I guess latency perhaps has something to do with this |
| 02:52.12 | Amarande | Wobin: "soon" |
| 02:52.50 | Amarande | VIad: hm, interesting |
| 02:52.53 | Wobin | I think you mean Soon™ |
| 02:53.01 | Amarande | seems like the kind of thing you might want to confirm with some old time kara guilds, especially horde ones |
| 02:53.10 | VIad | why? :P |
| 02:53.18 | Amarande | i.e., "did some people take almost 50% longer to show up even though they left Undercity at nearly the same time" |
| 02:54.16 | Wobin | See, I wonder if flight time -is- a fixed value |
| 02:54.40 | Wobin | or if latency, loading of npcs,players,etc will change it -every- time |
| 02:55.23 | Wobin | and if the best you can do, is either offer an estimate of arrival |
| 02:55.41 | Wobin | or try and figure from coordinate change, and knowledge of flightpath precise lengths to calculate TTA |
| 02:56.04 | VIad | the magic number is 30.3 |
| 02:56.16 | VIad | quite good average for most paths atm |
| 02:56.19 | Wobin | I hate magic numbers =( |
| 02:56.30 | Wobin | stupid maps with stupid different scalings |
| 02:57.16 | Amarande | btw, that's yet another reason to play alliance. :P |
| 02:57.29 | Amarande | I'm surprised that Horde was the favoured faction for raiding so often, when I think about flight times :P |
| 02:57.50 | Amarande | I guess people actually remembered to summon back then though :) |
| 02:58.19 | Amarande | but still, there's never been anything as stupidly remote for Alliance as there has been for Horde, as far as I can recall, except perhaps Zul'Aman |
| 02:58.23 | kd3 | blah. how long is the hivemind going to keep grinding at the pokemon mansion? giovanni's been done for a while now |
| 02:59.11 | VIad | fyi InFlight addon was over 30 sec off on the sw to darkshire path |
| 02:59.15 | VIad | mine was *only* 15 sec :P |
| 03:02.57 | Dagmar | kd3: lol |
| 03:03.01 | Dagmar | kd3: Like bugs think |
| 03:03.32 | Dagmar | kd3: In this one instance the storyline does basically cover why the bugs would just attack forever |
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| 03:29.17 | Jamash | I just got the ancient bonesaber http://aqua-teen-hunger-force.wikia.com/wiki/Universal_Remonster |
| 03:36.35 | TC-Work | Jamash: Is that really the link you meant to use? |
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| 04:07.20 | Sintacks | anyone know of a way to change the way buffs move in default frames? |
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| 04:27.05 | Mr_Rabies | um, sorta but there's some insane tainting involved |
| 04:27.33 | Mr_Rabies | you can set buffs per row but wow really, really doesnt like you doing that |
| 04:27.58 | Mr_Rabies | what's your goal, Sintacks? |
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| 04:30.59 | Jamash | TC-Work: Yes |
| 04:32.57 | Jamash | TC-Work: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/the-ancient-bonesaber-of-zumakalis is a reference to http://aqua-teen-hunger-force.wikia.com/wiki/Universal_Remonster |
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| 04:34.29 | Sintacks | Mr_Rabies, i just want to reverse it. default is grown right to left. someone wants them left to right but doesn't want to get an addon |
| 04:34.42 | Sintacks | but is willing to use a macro every time he logs in |
| 04:39.58 | Mr_Rabies | ah, that's not at all what i was looking at when i did it, but semlar helped me, so let me just recruit him without his consent |
| 04:40.16 | Mr_Rabies | semlar can get things done, ui taint be damned |
| 04:40.43 | Semlar | there's an addon that would probably do it better |
| 04:41.15 | Semlar | satrina buff frame i think |
| 04:42.13 | Semlar | why's he want to run a macro every time he logs in instead of using an addon |
| 04:45.32 | Semlar | i don't think you can do this without reanchoring every buff frame |
| 04:46.03 | Neffi_ | Sintacks: Tell him too bad, use an addon |
| 04:46.06 | Semlar | and that for sure would prevent you from being able to right click to cancel the buff |
| 04:46.24 | Neffi_ | Sintacks: A macro can only do so much. Does he not realize code run from a macro is in the same environment as addons? |
| 04:46.37 | Neffi_ | It's not like he's helping out his game by refusing to use addons; only hurting it |
| 04:47.09 | Semlar | from a convenience standpoint i just don't understand why you would want to run a macro every time you logged in |
| 04:47.37 | Neffi_ | Some people have this idea that addons are bad, or cripple performance, or use up copious amount of memory that will rip a black hole into their computer |
| 04:47.54 | Semlar | also growing from the other direction would only make sense if the whole thing were being moved |
| 04:47.56 | Neffi_ | So they'd rather just taint everything ;) |
| 04:48.49 | Thunder_Child | because addons are gateway programs. |
| 04:48.55 | Semlar | it's true |
| 04:49.35 | Thunder_Child | addon here, addon there, next thing you know, addons take up more ram than wow. |
| 04:49.37 | Mr_Rabies | some people don't trust addons but since "macros are in the game they're okay" |
| 04:49.54 | Mr_Rabies | some people are also kind of dumb |
| 04:50.04 | Mr_Rabies | mostly those people |
| 04:50.52 | Neffi_ | The addon API is in the game too, and /run is just a frontend to that; tell them this |
| 04:51.26 | Mr_Rabies | /i/ know that, neffi, but people are idiots :p |
| 04:51.46 | Mr_Rabies | they're like oh no if i install addons imma get keylogged |
| 04:51.55 | Neffi | That's why I advised Sin to just tell his friend "too bad" |
| 04:52.55 | Mr_Rabies | use this link to do so, Sintacks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfMA-eL1vLM |
| 04:55.55 | Neffi | https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotting-in-threes/ This is a good read if you want to become totally disillusioned at any prospects of Linux in the desktop space |
| 04:56.21 | Neffi | Or at least a good read if you want motivation to ditch anything that uses GTK |
| 05:03.10 | Mr_Rabies | i ditch everything that used gtk because gtk looks like windows 3.1 vomited a program onto my computer via linux when it's made in gtk |
| 05:04.25 | Mr_Rabies | er uses gtk |
| 05:04.39 | Arrowmaster | its hard to pick and choose when almost everything is gtk or tied into kde so much you need to install all of kde to use it |
| 05:05.08 | Mr_Rabies | everything i've ever seen that uses GTK looks 100% like graphic design by someone who writes code |
| 05:05.22 | Neffi | Based on what I've seen, I'd rather install all of GTK than let Gnome touch anything at all |
| 05:05.27 | Neffi | KDE* |
| 05:27.05 | Jamash | I've always thought Gnome and KDE were fundamentally bad ideas |
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| 05:27.37 | Jamash | the entire concept of a system-wide "desktop environment" is something I go to linux to get away from, not go inflict upon myself |
| 05:29.10 | Jamash | this is why I use XFCE and apps that aren't inextricably tied into gnome or kde as much as possible |
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| 06:06.23 | karl_w_w | all the others make sense to me other than colons |
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| 06:29.29 | Jamash | karl_w_w: because you're using the wrong operating system |
| 06:32.55 | karl_w_w | i see |
| 06:33.01 | karl_w_w | that makes too much sense |
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| 12:00.55 | ilodi | does anyone have any idea how chat_msg_addon event actually works? |
| 12:01.48 | ilodi | it looks like the response time is usually exact same for everyone (im currently testing the response time with 4 people), but it seems to change abit |
| 12:02.41 | ilodi | delay seems to be between 0.4 and 0.8 seconds |
| 12:03.13 | ilodi | oh yeah to the question, does it work in cycles :P |
| 12:07.39 | Neffi | what do you mean? |
| 12:11.41 | ilodi | for instance: if i send an addon msg to guild channel and receivers will do something on their end and then send the results back with another addon message, the delay for every response is the same |
| 12:11.43 | ilodi | even for my own |
| 12:12.25 | ilodi | so there has to be something that delays the sending instead of sending it right away |
| 12:13.15 | ilodi | otherwise its almost imbossible to get the same delay for every response when everyone has different ms etc |
| 12:13.19 | Neffi | Maybe latency isn't varying mucb in your tests? |
| 12:13.33 | Neffi | But addon comm isnt high priority so I wouldnt be surprised if it were queued for a moment |
| 12:15.58 | ilodi | seems to be same delay with whisper |
| 12:16.13 | Neffi | Is this giving you an issue? |
| 12:16.27 | Neffi | I dont understand the problem. Delays are a reality in communication |
| 12:16.34 | ilodi | just wondering is it possible to lower the delay |
| 12:16.47 | Neffi | Almost 100% positively no |
| 12:17.04 | Neffi | Except shaving off a few ms of ping by getting a better net connection |
| 12:17.27 | ilodi | i think it wouldn't make any difference |
| 12:17.53 | ilodi | 0.60800000000017 was the latest delay |
| 12:17.55 | Neffi | Probably not |
| 12:17.56 | ilodi | for 4 guys |
| 12:18.22 | ilodi | and my ms is 70 atm, so there is alot air in that number ;p |
| 12:19.19 | Neffi | Well, nothing you can do about the server not shuffling around your data as quickly as you want, so you'll have to deal with the delay |
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| 13:46.56 | zenzio | tickles Lopeppeppy |
| 13:47.04 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, dear. |
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| 13:50.46 | zenzio | dangit, I hate when sites' "clever" searches fail. No, when I searched for "panther tank", I did not want results for "leopard tank" |
| 13:55.14 | j311yf1sh | lol |
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| 14:05.30 | Fisker | trickles Lopeppeppy |
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| 14:09.48 | Lopeppeppy | Oh god. No. Please. Don't. Stop. |
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| 14:36.50 | Fisker | wat. |
| 14:37.26 | Amarande | wow, D3 2.0.1 is better than I thought it would be |
| 14:37.36 | Amarande | still, the xpac's probably not going to be in my gaming budget for a while :| |
| 14:37.36 | Maldivia | yeah :) |
| 14:38.03 | Amarande | I'm planning to reactivate an MMO subscription soon, I've got a vacation in early April, and I've got a pre-order for PS3 coming in the week before the D3 patch comes out |
| 14:38.07 | Amarande | er, expansion comes out |
| 14:38.29 | Amarande | and I just spent about 1200 bucks over the last month or so on rig upgrades |
| 14:38.50 | Ressy | I wasn't figuring on purchasing RoS.... But I started playing.. And getting upgrade after upgrade... I'm weak.. I think I'll preorder tonight. |
| 14:38.50 | zenzio | then you really need to play ALL the games |
| 14:41.58 | karl_w_w | if you have a PC that you've poured money into, why go out and buy a last generation console? |
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| 14:43.20 | Amarande | karl: PS3 game, not console |
| 14:44.41 | Amarande | which I've had preordered pretty much since it was confirmed |
| 14:45.31 | Amarande | FFX/FFX-2 HD remaster, which comes out the 18th |
| 14:45.40 | Amarande | DARK AEONS IN AMERICA. FINALLY. |
| 14:46.29 | karl_w_w | you didn't need to wait, download the international version and emulate it :P |
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| 14:50.22 | Fisker | I am a genius Lopeppeppy |
| 14:51.12 | Dagmar | I could swear I actualyl played through that one |
| 14:51.32 | Dagmar | In the "remaster" did they get rid of that fucking stupid space soccer game? |
| 14:51.52 | Dagmar | I suppose it would be too much to expect them to have removed the pedophiliac overtones, since it's a FF game after all. |
| 14:53.39 | Lopeppeppy | Totally, Fisker. |
| 14:59.21 | Fisker | good thing I didn't just embarass myself because I just forethought what would bite me in the ass |
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| 15:37.10 | Ackis | I'm starting to get annoyed at websites that require super complex passwords... capital/lowercase/number is okay, but ffs you're making me add symbols now? Why do I need a super secure password to post on some blog? bleh |
| 15:38.09 | Lopeppeppy | Password Safe - keeps me sane! |
| 15:38.29 | Dagmar | Because otherwise you'll pick dumbshit passwords that a bot will guess easily, and then they'll use your account to spam |
| 15:39.08 | Dagmar | Something like 8% of users will use their username with a 1 following it as a password if you don't set a few on fire to make an example of them |
| 15:40.32 | amro | yeah but the silly "at least one capital/symbol/number" shit results in passwords like Hunter2! |
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| 15:45.09 | Ackis | there's a simple way around that Dagmar... lock the account out after 5 failed attempts |
| 15:45.37 | Lopeppeppy | I lock my sheeple after 3. Silently. |
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| 15:46.28 | Dagmar | Ackis: It only takes one attempt for me to guess 'ackis1' |
| 15:46.38 | Dagmar | ...and four more to lock you out of your account. |
| 15:46.41 | nevcairiel | locking sucks, as any dickface can simply break your account without any effort |
| 15:46.52 | Dagmar | Username: root |
| 15:46.56 | Dagmar | Password: penis |
| 15:46.58 | Dagmar | Failed. |
| 15:47.04 | Dagmar | Repeat 5c. |
| 15:47.07 | Dagmar | er five times. |
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| 15:47.53 | Dagmar | It's why sane people introduce a cooldown and not a lockout |
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| 15:48.17 | karl_w_w | wtf Dagmar |
| 15:48.31 | karl_w_w | blitzball is the best minigame in the history of anything ever |
| 15:48.38 | Dagmar | Seriously, the next time there's some breach of millions of accounts, go snatch what's posted and actually look at the incredibly craptacular passwords people use |
| 15:48.56 | Dagmar | karl_w_w: If by "best" you mean "complete waste of my time", then sure. |
| 15:49.13 | karl_w_w | well I guess if you were bad at it! :P |
| 15:49.30 | nevcairiel | aren't all games designed to make your time waste away |
| 15:49.31 | Dagmar | No, the problem was that it took about ten minute to figure out, and then it was a completely trivial zerg rush |
| 15:49.37 | Sintacks | Neffi, it's more so, he doesn't want an addon that redoes teh buff frame. just modifies how it grows. |
| 15:49.49 | Dagmar | When I was a kid, I had this "Electronic Football" game made my Radio Shack. |
| 15:50.04 | Dagmar | The other player blips moved at a constant speed. Your blip moved every time you hit a buuton. |
| 15:50.16 | Dagmar | You could score a touchdown, crossing the entire field, in under a quarter second. |
| 15:50.34 | Shirik_ | I think it is totally valid to grab all the published account data and ban those passwords |
| 15:50.53 | Dagmar | It was more exciting than BlitzBall |
| 15:51.37 | Dagmar | Shirik: I add them to my dictionaries |
| 15:52.26 | Dagmar | The only problem is getting managerial signoff because some people will still insist on using them, and get locked out, and then be "unable to do anything" for half a day while they get their password reset |
| 15:53.07 | Dagmar | ...because security managers tend to lack the balls to push back and say "you didn't lose productivity because of maniacal security engineers, you lost productivity because you hire people incapable of following simple instructions'. |
| 15:54.42 | Dagmar | Speaking of which I am presently in the middle of a commplete outage of an entire datacenter because some motherfucker who I would *violently assault* if I had to be in the same department with, couldn't be bothered to _test_ a failover mechanism. |
| 15:55.02 | Ackis | you don't need to test anything sheesh |
| 15:55.21 | Dagmar | These are the same guys who once swore their failover would work when I could *see* the sync cable ports were empty. |
| 15:55.53 | Maldivia | Dagmar: why did I think if this when I read it: http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1986/11/26 |
| 15:55.54 | Dagmar | Their idea of "failover" suddenly changed to "We'll manually promote the backup, and then take the primary out of the configuration". |
| 15:57.26 | Lopeppeppy | I am about to test my failover of beating the crap out of the grandboss. So I think it's time for lunch. |
| 15:57.40 | Shirik_ | I mean |
| 15:57.46 | Shirik_ | I really wish everyone would just move to smartcards |
| 15:57.54 | Shirik_ | I love them |
| 16:03.49 | Dagmar | I wouldn't mind but we'd need someone to survive the lawsuits |
| 16:04.17 | Dagmar | If they make a "consortium" of vendors for it, it'll require licence fees to even look at, so opensource/linux will never get it |
| 16:04.46 | Dagmar | If only one vendor does it, they'll be sued into oblivion by patent trolls claimming they have the patents on copper conductive pads |
| 16:05.56 | Shirik_ | of course, I'm also the same guy that advocates government-issued certificates for everyone |
| 16:06.31 | Shirik_ | I would love drivers licenses being turned into something like a CAC |
| 16:06.36 | Dagmar | You should talk with aestetix. He's working on things to try and make it so government-issued certs won't be necessary |
| 16:06.43 | Shirik_ | huh |
| 16:07.02 | Dagmar | He's deep in with the NSTIC people trying to work out what's an "identity" |
| 16:07.21 | Dagmar | I don't think they're going to get anywhere as long as shitheads are perpetually campaigning for stupid definitions |
| 16:07.35 | Dagmar | ...otherwise I'd be in on that identity council stuff. |
| 16:08.04 | Dagmar | It's possible I could free up enough of my time to deal with it later this spring without turning to serial murder to let off steam |
| 16:08.06 | Shirik_ | politics is FUn |
| 16:08.20 | Dagmar | I *despise* the kind of crap that's going on with that group right now |
| 16:08.49 | Dagmar | People very _flagrantly_ shilling for mechanisms that will still facilitate pulling strings to violate someone's anonymity so their big corp can take their argument offline |
| 16:09.32 | Dagmar | Every single one of those people needs to be signed up for the Mysterios Bag Of Flaming Poop Of The Month club |
| 16:10.04 | Dagmar | ...but they're completely content with only the rich and large corporations being able to hide their actions online |
| 16:10.37 | Lopeppeppy | Ding dong ditch. |
| 16:11.01 | Shirik_ | brbs |
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| 16:16.21 | Hazal | This is a really noob question. If a function like GetPowerRegen() returns 2 values. Is there a way to get just the first or the second value without "saving" both of them like: inactiveRegen, activeRegen = GetPowerRegen(). I've seen people use the sign '_' for things they want to throw away. What should I do :) ? |
| 16:17.14 | Semlar | i don't know what you mean by saving |
| 16:17.20 | Ermad | can do local second = select(2, GetPowerRegen()) |
| 16:18.09 | Hazal | Keeping it in the memory. Dunno how else to explain |
| 16:18.32 | Semlar | the value is discarded if it isn't used |
| 16:18.43 | Semlar | it's not wasting memory |
| 16:18.45 | Hazal | Wasn't aware of that |
| 16:18.47 | Hazal | :) |
| 16:19.06 | Ackis | the _ is used as a throwaway variable, if you do use it make sure you define it to be local for your project |
| 16:19.25 | Semlar | when you assign a variable like local a, b = GetPowerRegen() and then a and b aren't assigned to a higher scope, they get garbage collected later |
| 16:20.41 | Semlar | don't use select to avoid assigning some of the return values |
| 16:21.20 | Ackis | doesn't using select add more overhead than just having a throwaway variable also? |
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| 16:21.34 | pompy | Ackis: did you get Orion: Dino Horde? |
| 16:21.38 | Semlar | the overhead of a function call is relatively high |
| 16:21.48 | Ackis | pompy: no idea, I have many games :P |
| 16:21.53 | Hazal | Thanks for the help guys. Btw Semlar, you're the one who was working on a nameplate addon right? |
| 16:22.01 | Semlar | yeah |
| 16:22.08 | Hazal | How's it going with that :) ? |
| 16:22.32 | Semlar | which one |
| 16:22.46 | Hazal | Ohh do you have multiple nameplate addons? |
| 16:22.51 | pompy | Ackis: its $1 ! 93% off heh |
| 16:22.53 | Semlar | the one where it stacks all the nameplates up in one location is a work in progress |
| 16:23.45 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:23.58 | Ackis | pompy: do you have it? |
| 16:24.41 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:25.23 | Hazal | What's with all the arrows. What do they mean? |
| 16:25.34 | Dagmar | DOUble rainbow |
| 16:25.36 | Semlar | normally they're target indiators |
| 16:25.59 | Semlar | i was just testing something |
| 16:27.51 | Semlar | it's not really ready for release but it works pretty well |
| 16:29.41 | pompy | Ackis: im gonna get it.. 1.5 hrs lef |
| 16:29.42 | pompy | t |
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| 16:49.09 | karl_w_w | what's the name of that actor who hasn't won an oscar and it's a travesty |
| 16:49.33 | karl_w_w | gary oldman! |
| 16:49.37 | Dagmar | Paul Rubens? |
| 16:50.35 | Dagmar | Gary Oldman might actually *have* won an Oscar and we'd never know it. He's such a chameleon |
| 16:54.21 | Lopeppeppy | Ye gods. Teaching a 55 year old person how to generate a strong password. For three new accounts simulataneously. And they can't be similar to one another. |
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| 16:56.02 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: just suggest to them they use passphrases for things they did as a kid like playing apple jacks or w/e old people played back then |
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| 16:56.41 | Lopeppeppy | This is a password that 80 year old trustees have to remember. What a nightmare. |
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| 16:56.57 | Shirik2 | Lopeppeppy: that sounds amazing |
| 16:58.18 | Lopeppeppy | We've always been able to custom-set them for the trustee's convenience, but now that IT is running all of the login functions, I can't extend that courtesy. So it's fussy-fussy rules conformation from here on out, and I'm afraid of the backlash. |
| 16:59.53 | Lopeppeppy | But they've all heard of the Macy's hacking and the Target hacking over the holidays, so I'll just twist it that way - Skidmore's getting more secure too. |
| 17:00.46 | pompy | ~lart Fisker |
| 17:00.46 | purl | takes a rusty axe and swings it violently, taking Fisker's head off |
| 17:00.54 | Fisker | Why is that my fault pompy ? |
| 17:01.10 | pompy | lol |
| 17:01.32 | pompy | saw Orion: Dino Horde on your wishlist, dont you buy like every game!? and this one has been on sale for the past week, for ONE DOLLA |
| 17:01.36 | Fisker | Lopeppeppy likes me |
| 17:01.37 | pompy | whats holdign you back sir!? |
| 17:01.58 | Fisker | my wishlist is a list of TCG games basically pompy |
| 17:02.04 | Lopeppeppy | Apparently I am, pompy. |
| 17:02.43 | pompy | is confused, Fisker |
| 17:04.02 | Shirik2 | pompy: because Fisker buys every game, he doesn't need a wishlist, so he uses it for other purposes instead |
| 17:04.24 | Fisker | Why are you mean? |
| 17:04.29 | Shirik2 | :( |
| 17:04.33 | Fisker | help Lopeppeppy the meanies are being mean to me |
| 17:04.43 | Shirik2 | it's ok Fisker |
| 17:04.49 | Shirik2 | United is banning me from my computer because I am being mean |
| 17:04.50 | Lopeppeppy | hides Fisker under a rock. |
| 17:04.50 | pompy | Shirik2: heh |
| 17:04.54 | Fisker | yay |
| 17:04.57 | Fisker | good Shirik2 |
| 17:04.59 | Shirik2 | coincidentally we're about to go below 10k feet |
| 17:05.18 | Fisker | also Lopeppeppy I'd just say that usually dumb policies come from dumb people, i.e. not people usually working in IT |
| 17:07.02 | Lopeppeppy | If I throw IT under a bus they will surely throw me under a train, Fisker. |
| 17:07.48 | Fisker | I would never throw you under a train |
| 17:08.32 | Fisker | My boss was a bit pissed I told him he just wasted a lot of money on teamviewer when we already had a well-functioning remote support system |
| 17:08.46 | Fisker | sucks to have dumb people make decisions |
| 17:12.00 | Lopeppeppy | My boss just put our programmer on a 10 hour (estimated) programming job that I spent 4 hours working on yesterday. The grand boss doesn't like my work because there are no pictures, so he wants the programmer to do it over. He hasn't supplied any pictures yet. |
| 17:17.06 | karl_w_w | oh my god I just learnt something amazing |
| 17:17.20 | karl_w_w | if you look carefully at the burger king logo |
| 17:17.34 | karl_w_w | you can see that the patty in the burger actually says the words burger king! |
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| 17:20.47 | Dagmar | *blinkblink* |
| 17:21.13 | Dagmar | Just how color-blind are you? |
| 17:21.25 | mikma | well |
| 17:21.27 | mikma | all i can see is black |
| 17:21.30 | mikma | is that bad? |
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| 17:23.43 | karl_w_w | not colour blind at all Dagmar |
| 17:27.38 | Dagmar | The letters are *big* |
| 17:27.57 | Lopeppeppy | I bet you know all about the FedEx arrow too, don't you? |
| 17:28.40 | karl_w_w | fedex arrow? |
| 17:29.12 | Lopeppeppy | The arrow in the E. http://toneiusmaximus.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/090113-fedex-express-arrow4.png |
| 17:29.16 | kd3 | there's an arrow in the white space between the second E and the X |
| 17:29.40 | karl_w_w | oh my good god that is the cleverest thing I have ever seen! |
| 17:30.13 | karl_w_w | but where's the arrow in the UPS logo? |
| 17:34.00 | Dagmar | It's actually a penis. |
| 17:34.05 | Fisker | did someone say penis? |
| 17:36.19 | Lopeppeppy | UPS is not fast enough for arrows. |
| 17:37.22 | pompy | http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/02/26/american-lawmakers-take-aim-at-aviolenta-game-devs |
| 17:38.16 | Dagmar | American gamers should take aim at violent lawmakers. |
| 17:38.19 | Dagmar | More would get done |
| 17:38.44 | karl_w_w | and it would make much more interesting news |
| 17:42.00 | pompy | indeed |
| 17:43.22 | Fisker | i once killed a guy Lopeppeppy |
| 17:43.47 | zenzelezz | how rude |
| 17:45.11 | pompy | Damn |
| 17:46.24 | Lopeppeppy | I once did first aid on a gunshot wound, Fisker. |
| 17:46.45 | Fisker | oh :( |
| 17:47.31 | Dagmar | Tell him specifically how. :) |
| 17:52.44 | Ackis | if I'm given a url: http://www.foo.com/foo.aspx?bar1=1&bar2=2 and I want to check if the parameter format is correct (e.g. first one is a ? second and past are a single &) what would I search for on google? testing URL is only giving me basic url testing, nothing with parameters |
| 17:53.01 | Dagmar | YOu want regexp? |
| 17:54.23 | Ackis | I suppose so, I'd have to do case or if's to properly format the url I need but at least I could check if it's valid |
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| 18:01.38 | Dagmar | A crude version would be umm... \/[^\/=]+\?[^\/=]+=[^\/=]+(&[^\/=]+=[^\/=]+){0,25} |
| 18:01.55 | Dagmar | ...which is a perfect example of why it's easier to just beat the users. |
| 18:02.33 | Dagmar | You'd probably want to terminate the mess with $ |
| 18:03.36 | Ackis | The logic I'm trying to fix is basically "does the url have a ? if no, lets add one, if not lets add a &" and it's adding extra &'s where it shouldn't (I didn't write that code :P) |
| 18:03.53 | Dagmar | Oh god |
| 18:04.18 | Dagmar | Just grab everything after the ?, split it into a list by cutting on &'s |
| 18:04.41 | Ackis | but what if there's no ? |
| 18:04.44 | Dagmar | Then you can just append new shit the list, rejoin with & as the separator |
| 18:05.01 | Dagmar | If there's no ? then there's nothing after the ? and therefore you'll wind up with an empty list |
| 18:05.17 | Dagmar | This will be far easier to do piecemeal than with a regexp |
| 18:05.38 | Dagmar | You can still reassemble the result the same way whetehr there were argumetns or not |
| 18:05.39 | Ackis | ahh split on ?, if result is empty then SOL |
| 18:06.07 | Dagmar | If the result is empty then you should wind up with an empty list by splitting on the &'s that don't exist |
| 18:06.15 | Dagmar | You'd still add items to the list by appending them |
| 18:06.51 | Dagmar | ...and if the joined result of list items is empty, when you reassemble things you can just not add a ? in between the URL and the nonexistant list |
| 18:08.15 | Dagmar | Actually you could just use a join operation there as well, I *think* |
| 18:09.02 | Dagmar | lua> table.concat({"burp"}, "?"); |
| 18:09.50 | Dagmar | er... lua> table.concat({"burp", ""}, "?"); <-- dunno if this would be "burp" or "burp?" off the top of my head. Most languages would result in "burp" |
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| 18:10.21 | Ackis | thanks Dagmar |
| 18:10.57 | Dagmar | no sweat |
| 18:13.08 | kd3 | ~wowalert |
| 18:13.08 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 18:14.30 | karl_w_w | ok so the other day I saw a freaky looking spider, and now I see another one that may be a baby of same |
| 18:15.28 | kd3 | oop, 6pm tonight apparently |
| 18:15.33 | karl_w_w | I haven't been able to work out what type it is, I have never seen one like it before |
| 18:17.00 | TC-Work | It's a new man eating variation. |
| 18:17.26 | Sintacks | 450 fps on the char select screen. |
| 18:17.35 | Sintacks | wish i had a 10th of that during combat. |
| 18:18.26 | karl_w_w | i suspect it's a mouse spider of some kind |
| 18:19.35 | karl_w_w | it does look somewhat like this http://www.findaspider.org.au/find/spiders/images/203A10.jpg though the front legs are swept foward more |
| 18:22.58 | Lopeppeppy | spiders are soooo cool |
| 18:23.24 | karl_w_w | correct |
| 18:23.55 | karl_w_w | insect control! |
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| 18:27.44 | pompy | www.mwb.to/whatsapphack |
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| 18:46.38 | Fisker | sneaks up on Lopeppeppy |
| 18:47.05 | Lopeppeppy | Oh noes. Help. |
| 18:48.02 | Fisker | :( |
| 18:48.08 | Fisker | I'm not a serial murder |
| 18:48.12 | Fisker | maybe cereal murder |
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| 18:56.11 | Fisker | Are you coming home Lopeppeppy ? |
| 18:58.37 | Lopeppeppy | No, I'm staying up here with Major Tom. |
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| 19:00.16 | Fisker | damn |
| 19:00.22 | Fisker | plan b then |
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| 19:15.56 | Fisker | lunch yet Lopeppeppy? |
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| 19:19.43 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, long since, Fisker. |
| 19:19.57 | Fisker | oh |
| 19:20.01 | Fisker | plan c |
| 19:20.12 | Fisker | going to the dance? |
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| 19:25.44 | kd3 | ah, based helix has reached his final form |
| 19:31.44 | Sintacks | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout | 4,823 tributes to Monty Python |
| 19:31.46 | Sintacks | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 19:32.03 | Fisker | Sintacks |
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| 20:00.36 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naUFIUZ2Ryc |
| 20:00.44 | TC-Work | Great, cent6 went out of its way to fuck over wacom tablets. Awesome. |
| 20:02.20 | Fisker | I get it mikma |
| 20:02.29 | Fisker | it's funny because it's racism |
| 20:13.49 | karl_w_w | the game of dota i just played gave me a warm fuzzy |
| 20:14.01 | karl_w_w | nobody yelled, lots of team work |
| 20:14.03 | karl_w_w | it was amazing |
| 20:17.32 | mikma | you just described gangbang |
| 20:18.43 | karl_w_w | sounds hot |
| 20:21.03 | pompy | ha http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1975670-duke-fan-trolls-unc-students-by-replacing-midterm-notes-with-meme |
| 20:37.27 | Ackis | Dagmar: I spent a couple hours writing code that fixes the URLs for people who are idiots and finally just gave in and threw a 3 line hack into the existing code base |
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| 20:48.07 | Fisker | so Lopeppeppy |
| 20:48.17 | Fisker | going to the car son? |
| 20:51.53 | Lopeppeppy | Half an hour still. |
| 20:53.21 | Fisker | nice |
| 20:53.32 | Fisker | rubs hands |
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| 21:20.03 | VIad | how did one run a function in its own environment? |
| 21:20.17 | VIad | wanna call GetTimeStringFromSeconds but with my own custom format without tainting the global scope |
| 21:25.58 | Ermad | setfenv should do what you want. |
| 21:29.45 | Semlar | didn't they remove recruit-a-friend or something |
| 21:30.19 | Fisker | SoR |
| 21:30.19 | Semlar | ah |
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| 22:40.45 | Arrowmaster | you know you have too many mods installed when after 5 minutes a game still isnt close to loading |
| 22:41.53 | TC-Work | Skyrim? |
| 22:43.27 | Arrowmaster | KSP |
| 22:47.08 | A-KO | lol |
| 22:49.55 | TC-Work | Or not a fast enough computer |
| 22:50.00 | A-KO | ^ |
| 22:52.28 | A-KO | driving a hybrid rules :D |
| 22:53.23 | Neffi | For how bad its scripting layer is, Skyrim's engine actually handles a huge amount of mods like it's nothing |
| 22:56.14 | TC-Work | Yes A-KO, we realise you are happy. |
| 22:58.44 | kullervo | usually stuff loads slowly because your machine doesn't actually have enough ram for it all |
| 23:10.17 | pompy | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=634630629924965&set=a.414413855279978.99986.276710412383657&type=1 lol |
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| 23:18.41 | pompy | http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/syfy-cancels-being-human-683436 |
| 23:20.56 | TC-Work | What I got out of that is it's the last season of warehouse 13. |
| 23:22.10 | karl_w_w | http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-inspector-chronicles-untitled-motion-picture-about-a-space-traveler interesting |
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| 23:57.20 | Amarande | Soooo ... Conspiracy theory, or is this Ars comment actually hitting the nail on the head for why certain ISP policies have always been as they've been? |
| 23:59.05 | Amarande | Apparently, it's being indicated that the reason why we get so much less upload than download, and why the TOS tends to make so many of the things that would actually use significant upload against the rules, has little or nothing to do with the actual merits or demerits of users being allowed to run servers |
| 23:59.29 | Amarande | as it's apparently designed to shape traffic ratios so as to be able to abuse peering agreements for extra moneys :| |
