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| 00:52.38 | Neffi | http://imgur.com/gallery/5jfz9zB :| |
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| 01:00.57 | TGiFallen | so how about that canadian comeback in hockey |
| 01:01.14 | Cairenn | 4 olympics in a row! |
| 01:01.23 | Ressy | wooo! |
| 01:01.24 | Cairenn | Canadian women rock |
| 01:01.45 | Ressy | My bus driver forgot to open the back doors of the bus cuz he was glancing over at it on his cellphone |
| 01:01.51 | Cairenn | lol |
| 01:01.53 | Neffi | at least they were polite about it http://imgur.com/gallery/UmNTmYt |
| 01:02.06 | Cairenn | hahahhaha |
| 01:02.15 | TGiFallen | Getting a canadian girlfriend, they don't choke when their down |
| 01:02.17 | kd3 | lmao |
| 01:02.32 | Cairenn | ... |
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| 01:02.51 | Ressy | oh jesus |
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| 01:03.31 | Neffi | Don't worry, he used the other form of "their". He was obviously saying something totally appropriate but got cut off |
| 01:04.10 | TGiFallen | yeah i can't believe I used the wrong they're, and i even used the least common one to fuck up |
| 01:04.30 | Neffi | Well, I gave you a chance to not correct yourself |
| 01:04.35 | Neffi | Enjoy the wrath of Cairenn |
| 01:04.38 | TGiFallen | but yesterday i asked a question then passed out, and i don't have enough scroll back to see it. I asked if there was some addon taht helps you organize bags and banks across multiple toons |
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| 01:05.35 | Amarande | TGiFallen: have you tried ArkInventory? |
| 01:05.58 | Amarande | ArkInventory helps you to the point that even item tooltips will mention if your alts have any |
| 01:06.13 | TGiFallen | yeah but isnt that an inventory replacement with cool sorting and also keeps track of items on other toons |
| 01:07.10 | TGiFallen | i have that with altoholic, i'm looking for something taht will look through all my items and go "you have 10 windwool cloth on x, 25 on y and 50 on z, send the cloth from x and y to z |
| 01:07.52 | Arrowmaster | i doubt anything does that |
| 01:08.09 | TGiFallen | ahh, would be a cool thing to add |
| 01:08.27 | TGiFallen | erm, cool thing to make |
| 01:09.13 | Amarande | TGiFallen: I don't think you can make an addon that mails stuff from alts you're not logged onto, sadly :( |
| 01:09.36 | Amarande | OTOH, Arkinventory WILL let you know about the quantities |
| 01:09.50 | Amarande | when you mouse over the windwool cloth, it'll mention that you have 10 on this character 25 on the other and 50 on the third |
| 01:09.55 | TC-Work | Cairenn's comment was just because she was remembering her younger days. |
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| 01:10.12 | TGiFallen | :| that's taking me a little too seriouslly |
| 01:10.22 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 01:10.28 | Amarande | TC-Work ... are you calling Cairenn old? Careful, the "TC" might end up standing for "tiny crater" LOL |
| 01:10.40 | TGiFallen | yeah amarande, altoholic does that nicely, so does bagnon if you use it |
| 01:17.40 | karl_w_w | http://i.4cdn.org/b/src/1392930510369.gif I like how the back door goes all around her |
| 01:18.13 | Ressy | lucky |
| 01:26.40 | Dagmar | I like how the quarterpanel "reminds her" she should be trying to move out of the way |
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| 01:37.47 | Amarande | damn you, newegg |
| 01:38.08 | karl_w_w | damn you, Amarande |
| 01:38.24 | Amarande | the case I wanted for my next rig is sold out :( |
| 01:39.11 | Neffi | Yeah I think they stopped stocking ft03b-mini too |
| 01:39.18 | Neffi | It's been "disabled" for a while |
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| 01:40.24 | Amarande | Neffi: I was looking at a Silverstone Kublai case ... it *just* sold out today :( |
| 01:40.36 | Amarande | unfortunately, newegg has no "you may order it now and it will ship when it comes in" facility like amazon |
| 01:40.47 | Neffi | Maybe Silverstone is having stock issues, since ft03b-mini is from them as well |
| 01:40.51 | Amarande | you know, for all their good sides, newegg is decidedly blah in terms of their ecommerce capabilities :| |
| 01:41.09 | Amarande | you can't order something until it actually arrives in their whs |
| 01:41.29 | Amarande | they can't split an order into multiple shipments (even if it's because of *their* packaging needs, rather than your request) without it having to be split into and charged as multiple orders |
| 01:41.46 | Neffi | they probably try to avoid false promises |
| 01:41.51 | Amarande | (especially annoying if you're using amex and have to refigure your budget for the month because you get ninety-nined) |
| 01:43.13 | Amarande | i.e., since amex charges $100+ go on the extended pay option, thus barely have to be worried about immediately, the absolute worst suck you can get is to have your order split up into pieces that are *almost but not quite* 100, and then you have to be a bit monk-like for the month to fit in the fact that now you've gotta pay that right away LOL |
| 01:43.54 | Amarande | ah well. heh |
| 01:43.57 | Amarande | not that it matters too much for cases |
| 01:44.04 | Amarande | because cases always have to be shipped (and thus charged) separately |
| 01:44.13 | Amarande | since they always come in the manufacturer's box |
| 01:44.42 | Amarande | actually, the only thing I could really get buggered that way on is the PSU, anyway ... the RAM, CPU, and mobo are all over $100 individually |
| 01:45.11 | Amarande | but yeah, now I have to figure out what the next best thing for price/quality is case-wise |
| 01:45.30 | Amarande | the other silverstones either are way too expensive or I'm a little leery of them because they're TOO cheap, same for the Lian Li's :S |
| 01:45.57 | Neffi | Damn, Morrowind's community is so disjointed |
| 01:46.01 | Amarande | could get another antec 300, but now that I'm using serious GPUs I find that it's a little too cramped to work in |
| 01:46.29 | Amarande | morrowind still has a community? |
| 01:46.30 | Neffi | With Skyrim I can have the most bug free experience by downloading one monolithic Unofficial Patch for the game + each DLC. With Morrowing it looks like I need to apply a ton of fixes |
| 01:47.05 | Neffi | No it seems development stopped a while ago. But in my experience with Bethesda games I still want to seek out the unofficial patches |
| 01:50.15 | sintAcks | hmm. now to find api to give someone group leader |
| 01:50.49 | sintAcks | that was easy |
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| 02:22.20 | sintAcks | lol. made a weak aura to give someone lead with a codeword so i can be afk when this group forms back up |
| 02:24.22 | Amarande | BOTTER |
| 02:24.31 | Amarande | :p |
| 02:24.50 | Amarande | letting the computer manage your group for you, you dirty automater :) |
| 02:25.29 | Amarande | next thing you know you'll be trying to use auto-rotation addons, and from then one starts to indulge in Sabbath-breaking, thievery, and finally murder |
| 02:25.31 | Amarande | LOL |
| 02:34.08 | pompy | http://gamerant.com/candy-crush-saga-king-ipo-copy-candy-swipe/ so (the IPO part is new to me) and if you invest in King, you are a fool! :P |
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| 03:13.05 | Neffi | Anyone use/tried Maui? Thoughts? |
| 03:21.27 | Arrowmaster | lol http://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/1ygu8r/microsoft_hold_music/ |
| 03:28.08 | Neffi | Maybe it's a passive-aggressive answer to the community on Windows 8 |
| 03:28.23 | Neffi | "fine, you don't like this? I hope your users like Vista then" |
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| 03:47.48 | kd3 | oop. weather alarm just went off |
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| 03:48.30 | kd3 | and with good reason, looking at the radar. holy crap. http://www.wunderground.com/radar/mixedcomposite.asp?region=c4&size=2x&type=loop |
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| 03:53.08 | Neffi | Heh. ESO got rated M. |
| 03:53.55 | Arrowmaster | well thats not good, just got a tornado watch and then a tornado warning alert on my phone |
| 03:55.04 | Arrowmaster | and i check wundermap and the main front is already past |
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| 03:58.48 | Ackis | halp i'm being attacked by a piggie! |
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| 04:08.01 | Neffi | Update for Skype for Windows: "You may need to restart your computer ..." fkin microsoft |
| 04:11.05 | Guest42879 | http://i.imgur.com/i4bHOP4.png |
| 04:12.01 | Wobin | oh, twitchplayspokemon |
| 04:12.10 | Arrowmaster | i think i just heard the best line peter dinklage has ever had, "fuck you and the mustache you rode in on" |
| 04:12.27 | kd3 | smartest. girl scout. ever. http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/02/20/girl_scout_sells_cookies_outside_a_green_cross_medical_cannibis_collective.html |
| 04:12.35 | kd3 | which reminds me, I need some thin mints |
| 04:13.58 | Neffi | Haha. I went to search that quote, and after typing in "Peter Dinklage", this was in my history as "If Peter Dinklage played Batman": http://imgur.com/gallery/9XlIJDL |
| 04:14.15 | Arrowmaster | its been 2 months since ive had sugar and i mostly dont miss it but i could go for some thin mints |
| 04:14.40 | Arrowmaster | Neffi: line was from knights of badassdom |
| 04:15.26 | Neffi | Not the most well received movie, but it's got Peter Dinklage, so I'm probably gonna watch it >_> |
| 04:15.45 | Arrowmaster | i think it went straight to dvd |
| 04:16.29 | Arrowmaster | its got summer glau in a corset and fishnets |
| 04:16.36 | Neffi | oh hell yeah |
| 04:16.41 | Neffi | downloads |
| 04:21.21 | pompy | http://i.imgur.com/2DvturI.jpg |
| 04:23.56 | Neffi | pompy: total hyperbole |
| 04:24.08 | Neffi | the real version also has a mage bomb button |
| 04:24.31 | pompy | lol |
| 04:30.21 | sintAcks | hmm. now i need to figure out easyiest fuck spelling way to see if a person is in my guild via name... |
| 04:55.05 | Arrowmaster | im guessing this is dungeon keeper? http://i.imgur.com/T1PJz8c.jpg a response to a gaming then and now image |
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| 05:01.37 | Fisker | dafuq jnwhiteh |
| 05:01.38 | Fisker | dafuq |
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| 05:44.48 | karl_w_w | how is it shamans in hearthstone never fail to have lightning bolt in their hand at the start of the game |
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| 06:03.32 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: ? |
| 06:09.02 | Thunder_Child | karl_w_w: Skill |
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| 06:24.26 | Sintacks | what does wipe actually do |
| 06:24.42 | Sintacks | does it clear contents or make the var not exist |
| 06:25.17 | Neffi | wipe() erases the contents of the table |
| 06:26.34 | Sintacks | am i reading into this right, that #tablename returns a number that is the number of entries in the table? |
| 06:27.07 | Neffi | Number of entries in the array part |
| 06:27.46 | Neffi | eg for this: local t = {1,2,3,4,5}; print(#t); t.a, t.b, t.c = 1,2,3; print(#t) -- will print 5 both times |
| 06:28.46 | Neffi | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.5.5 |
| 06:29.12 | Guest42879 | Sintacks: It returns a number that is guaranteed to have t[#t] ~= nil, and t[#t+1] == nil |
| 06:29.16 | Guest42879 | unless #t == 0 |
| 06:29.24 | Guest42879 | that's all you know |
| 06:29.47 | Guest42879 | even Neffi's statement is not necessarily accurate, but is most likely correct |
| 06:30.16 | Neffi | Yeah, I was trying to come up with a way to explain that without going into a complicated example or details he doesnt care about |
| 06:30.22 | Neffi | Which the manual does |
| 06:30.43 | Guest42879 | but you mentioned the "array part" of a table which most people don't even know exists o.o |
| 06:31.11 | Neffi | Well, the part they treated like an array is something they understand |
| 06:31.24 | Neffi | The implementation details may vary |
| 06:31.39 | Sintacks | what's an array <.< |
| 06:31.48 | Neffi | An ordered list basically |
| 06:31.59 | Neffi | t = {a, b, c, d, e, f } |
| 06:42.33 | Semlar | erases neffi |
| 06:42.59 | Guest42879 | Neffi = {Neffi} |
| 06:43.12 | Semlar | you're #1! |
| 06:46.04 | Neffi | :| |
| 06:48.13 | Neffi | Looking at the source, I don't understand why they made #t behave that way |
| 06:52.28 | Guest42879 | well it's partially the principle of least qualification |
| 06:52.56 | Guest42879 | you don't always want to specify exactly what the ... |
| 06:53.02 | Guest42879 | what's the right word omg |
| 06:53.28 | Guest42879 | well their client, anyway |
| 06:53.35 | Guest42879 | you want to specify something and then make your client meet it |
| 06:53.45 | Guest42879 | that way other clients are free to do slightly different behavior if it's more efficient |
| 06:54.00 | Sintacks | if you set a local inside an if, can it be used outside that if in teh rest of the function? |
| 06:54.05 | Neffi | no |
| 06:54.06 | Guest42879 | you can actually predict a lot about # operator in the standard client |
| 06:54.09 | Sintacks | taht's what i thought |
| 06:54.30 | Neffi | Locals are local to the block they're defined in (and, consequentally) any blocks "below" them |
| 06:55.27 | Sintacks | k |
| 06:55.28 | Neffi | Maybe "inside" is a better term |
| 06:57.26 | Sintacks | local blah |
| 06:57.26 | Sintacks | for loop end |
| 06:57.26 | Sintacks | if something that set blah to true end |
| 06:57.44 | Sintacks | that's a bad exmpale... |
| 06:57.47 | Sintacks | and bad spelling |
| 06:58.35 | Sintacks | the for loop is where the var might be set to true. and then if is where i check if it's true. so i need to make the local before the for loop |
| 06:58.37 | Neffi | Give me an example in code? |
| 06:58.49 | Sintacks | lol. but... this is stolen code <.< |
| 06:58.51 | Neffi | yes, define the outside |
| 06:58.56 | Sintacks | and i want to make sure i understand what i'm doing with it |
| 06:58.57 | Sintacks | lol |
| 06:58.58 | Neffi | define the local outside* |
| 06:59.04 | Neffi | It seems I'm bad at English too atm |
| 06:59.32 | Sintacks | i "stole" oRA's invite structure for certain parts. because oRA doesn't support muleiple invite triggers. and this is for personal use. |
| 06:59.39 | Sintacks | what even is ora's license |
| 06:59.49 | Guest42879 | that sounds like something to check before stealing it |
| 07:00.04 | Sintacks | lol |
| 07:00.19 | Guest42879 | "License: All Rights Reserved" |
| 07:00.23 | Sintacks | yeah. it's all rights. so i can't even share this bit to see if it's valid |
| 07:01.20 | Sintacks | i'm converting three fucntions into one function cuz i'm doing this inside a single weakaura. cuz i'm dumb. and find it fun. |
| 07:01.22 | Sintacks | lol |
| 07:05.10 | Sintacks | http://pastebin.com/mm9yBWMZ |
| 07:05.54 | Sintacks | that's such a bad example |
| 07:06.06 | Neffi | fish needs to be defined outside, near taco |
| 07:06.16 | Neffi | http://pastebin.com/sqgspBjd |
| 07:06.30 | Sintacks | okay. so i do understand it then. |
| 07:07.21 | Neffi | Youtube is really fucking obsessed with constantly changing stuff |
| 07:07.27 | Sintacks | yep |
| 07:07.46 | Neffi | I think whoever's in charge should really seek councelling |
| 07:07.49 | Neffi | Possibly therapy |
| 07:09.17 | Neffi | heh http://imgur.com/gallery/MfG9j |
| 07:13.09 | Sintacks | oh.. yeah. i forgot to make sure that was teh right function. lol |
| 07:21.21 | karl_w_w | not knowing what an array is? that's a paddlin' |
| 07:21.34 | karl_w_w | do you even C, bro? :P |
| 07:21.56 | Sintacks | nope |
| 07:23.20 | Neffi | C doesn't have arrays karl_w_w |
| 07:23.29 | Neffi | C has pointer candy =P |
| 07:27.37 | zenzio | I don't have the spec, obviously, but I believe they do use the word array, even though it does boil down to pointers |
| 07:27.52 | Neffi | yes, indeed |
| 07:31.29 | zenzio | dangit, I keep getting to work, putting on my headphones, and realizing I left the music running |
| 07:39.47 | zenzio | I find that I tend to judge websites by whether they use <label>s for their forms |
| 07:50.40 | Sintacks | i can't find one, but is there a function for if a unit is in your raid group |
| 07:55.23 | Semlar | you can use UnitExists with their name |
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| 08:05.20 | Sintacks | sad. UnitIsInMyGuild requires the unit be in your group or target or focus... i guess, an actual unit. |
| 08:09.56 | Guest42879 | obtw http://www.cnbc.com/id/101417956 |
| 08:09.58 | Guest42879 | @ Thunder_Child |
| 08:10.09 | zenzio | why so guest |
| 08:12.33 | Neffi | maybe he wants to be anonymous when he takes over the world with his drones |
| 08:13.23 | Neffi | I for one welcome our new Shirik overlord |
| 08:15.19 | zenzio | I think he just forgot his password |
| 08:30.01 | Sintacks | is the event that triggers a function a string? |
| 08:31.02 | Sintacks | like. function(event,msg,sender) fired by CHAT_MSG_WHISPER event is CHAT_MSG_WHISPER. but is that a string |
| 08:32.54 | Neffi | yes, that's a string |
| 08:33.04 | Neffi | letting you know which event is currently happening |
| 08:33.06 | Sintacks | k. |
| 08:33.22 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:33.25 | Sintacks | er |
| 08:33.33 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:33.34 | Neffi | "CHAT_MSG_WHISPER" |
| 08:33.36 | Sintacks | yeah. |
| 08:33.37 | Neffi | or that yes |
| 08:33.40 | Sintacks | i had done it for the other one |
| 08:33.41 | Sintacks | lol |
| 08:34.15 | Neffi | If it's wrapped in "", '' or [[]] (without leading --) it's a string |
| 08:34.36 | Neffi | Also some other things are strings, but you'll figure that out eventually |
| 08:34.40 | Sintacks | i wasn't sure if it came out as a string though. cuz i wasn't printing it or anything |
| 08:35.10 | Sintacks | i realy dont' know why i'm trying to do this in a weakaura. lol |
| 08:35.16 | Sintacks | it would be so much easier as just an addon |
| 08:35.23 | Sintacks | having to do everything inside one function is annoying |
| 08:35.35 | Neffi | and probably bad form |
| 08:35.39 | Sintacks | lol |
| 08:36.22 | Sintacks | i'm doing the logic so that it just gets out as soon as i don't care about it. so the first check is event, just because it has to be, second check is the message. if it's not what i'm looking for, i don't care about the rest. |
| 08:36.37 | Sintacks | the two loops only happen if everything else is true |
| 08:37.50 | Sintacks | but because i can't make a second or third function inside the function, i have to repeat the 4 checks codewise for each event. |
| 08:39.38 | Guest42879 | oh Neffi |
| 08:39.41 | Guest42879 | oh I already linked it |
| 08:39.50 | Guest42879 | zenzio: I'm actually authenticated |
| 08:40.08 | Neffi | lol |
| 08:40.56 | Neffi | I'm not sure if I'm worried or comfortable by the thought that your code could be flying over my head |
| 08:41.02 | Neffi | comforted, rather |
| 08:41.26 | Guest42879 | well you can be reasonably assured it will likely do exactly what I told it to do |
| 08:41.34 | Neffi | I bet ;) |
| 08:41.42 | Guest42879 | as for my sanity level |
| 08:41.53 | Neffi | It's just weird when you remember critical code that could potentially endager lives is written by a human being |
| 08:42.01 | Neffi | Of all things |
| 08:42.14 | Neffi | We're so bad at things |
| 08:42.25 | Guest42879 | and that's why we have a LOT of process in place to manage it |
| 08:42.36 | Guest42879 | there are some very fundamental things that we simply do not allow |
| 08:42.37 | Sintacks | a return in a function keeps everything else from going off right |
| 08:43.22 | Neffi | Sintacks: yes |
| 08:43.23 | Guest42879 | a return will cause a function to exit immediately |
| 08:43.26 | Sintacks | i should do this unitexists check sooner and return if true so keep everything else from happening |
| 08:43.42 | Neffi | if true then return end; print'this never prints' |
| 08:43.44 | Sintacks | lol @ Neffi vs Shirik's answer. |
| 08:43.55 | Sintacks | a basic "yes" and an explained yes |
| 08:44.33 | Neffi | I realized I'm really bad with words, so I've started either doing a "yes" or "no" and/or giving a code example |
| 08:44.46 | Guest42879 | Neffi: if it makes you feel any better, I really only work on the emergency systems |
| 08:44.52 | Guest42879 | the stuff that runs when shit hits the fan |
| 08:44.53 | Neffi | O.O |
| 08:45.00 | Maldivia | regarding the US vs Canada men's hockey semifinals later today; the stakes just got a lot higher: http://i.imgur.com/JhMU6mW.jpg |
| 08:45.06 | Guest42879 | which means, in a perfect world, my code never runs :) |
| 08:45.24 | Sintacks | saw that earlier, Maldivia. laughed. |
| 08:45.26 | Sintacks | told my mom. she laughed. |
| 08:45.33 | Sintacks | if only it were true. |
| 08:46.15 | Sintacks | i can just use return, or do i have to return true/false ? |
| 08:46.55 | Sintacks | oh. that was in the example Neffi gave. |
| 08:46.56 | Sintacks | derp. |
| 08:46.59 | Guest42879 | you can return anything you want |
| 08:47.02 | Sintacks | i read a true that didn't exist |
| 08:47.03 | Sintacks | lol |
| 08:47.05 | Guest42879 | or nothing |
| 08:47.07 | Guest42879 | or multiple things |
| 08:47.20 | Sintacks | so just return would return nil. which would be nothing. which wouldn't be true. so the aura won't show. k. |
| 08:47.24 | Maldivia | Sintacks: no matter where he ends up on this planet, we all lose :P |
| 08:47.32 | Sintacks | send him to mars |
| 08:47.41 | Guest42879 | no |
| 08:47.43 | Neffi | Sintacks: Well technically just `return` doesnt return nil, it returns nothing |
| 08:47.43 | Sintacks | i would be okay with him being the test subject. i mean first person on mars. |
| 08:47.43 | Guest42879 | nil is not nothing |
| 08:47.50 | Sintacks | lol |
| 08:47.59 | Sintacks | i did that on purpse |
| 08:48.02 | Neffi | As in: select('#', (function() do return end end)() ) should be 0 |
| 08:48.06 | Sintacks | cuz nil vs nothing is funny |
| 08:48.10 | Maldivia | Sintacks: and if we see a giant swarm of alien ships fleeing mars, then we know there WERE life there |
| 08:48.22 | Sintacks | hahaha |
| 08:48.27 | Neffi | nil is some internal value that semantically means nothing, but still exists |
| 08:48.35 | Neffi | As far as you need to know |
| 08:48.40 | zenzio | now don't be silly Maldivia |
| 08:48.48 | zenzio | the only thing we'll find on Mars is Prothean ruins |
| 08:48.56 | Guest42879 | and a face |
| 08:49.46 | zenzio | wonders how many people will pick up on that |
| 08:50.24 | Maldivia | hopefully a lot :P |
| 08:51.18 | Fisker | hey Guest42879 |
| 08:51.23 | Guest42879 | hey Fisker |
| 08:54.40 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:54.51 | Sintacks | will that work, or do i need to combine them into a string before i do an if on it |
| 08:54.53 | Sintacks | o.O |
| 08:55.00 | Sintacks | sender and server will never be nil |
| 08:55.26 | Maldivia | well, unless they are un your party/raid, Unit functions doesn't work on names, right? |
| 08:55.56 | Sintacks | it wouldn't work now that i think about it. i think. cuz it would do UnitExists("Name"-"Server") |
| 08:55.57 | Sintacks | i think |
| 08:56.20 | Sintacks | that's the check i'm going for Maldivia. if they are in the group. |
| 08:57.14 | Sintacks | but they would both be strings so what would they make when combined |
| 08:57.17 | Maldivia | well, it probably should work then, just remember to use the correct version of server (ie, the one without spaces etc) |
| 08:57.52 | Sintacks | hmm. yeah... shit. i'm not sure how BNGetFriendToonInfo returns the server |
| 08:57.56 | Neffi | lol wtf |
| 08:58.10 | Neffi | tostring = nil; print{} -- attempt to call a nil |
| 08:58.29 | Neffi | Why does the C code invoke the Lua-side tostring global |
| 08:59.08 | Neffi | (Not in WoW. I'm looking at the Lua source) |
| 08:59.39 | Maldivia | and print doesn't have a lua wrapper or something? |
| 09:00.27 | Neffi | I don't know? |
| 09:01.34 | Maldivia | hmm, nope -- it calls tostring from C :P |
| 09:01.44 | Maldivia | lua_getglobal(L, "tostring"); |
| 09:01.46 | Maldivia | :P |
| 09:02.10 | Neffi | yeah, I was wondering wtf they were thinking |
| 09:02.33 | Maldivia | so you can implement your own "tostring" function, and have that be called when using print |
| 09:02.53 | *** join/#wowuidev Kodiack (~Colto_000@101.98.137.235) |
| 09:06.48 | Guest42879 | I mean, it's already calling a lua function anyway |
| 09:06.54 | Guest42879 | because of __tostring |
| 09:07.01 | Guest42879 | so might as well fall back to a lua function |
| 09:07.50 | Neffi | The behavior is surprising |
| 09:08.03 | Neffi | I would always expect the language to use its own internal reference |
| 09:08.05 | Sintacks | would be nice if ambiguate also formated server names |
| 09:08.34 | Maldivia | what if I want to change the behavior and have nil be printed as NULL ? |
| 09:08.41 | Maldivia | I can't do that with __tostring |
| 09:08.43 | Neffi | I mean, if the user wants to define irregular print behavior, hooking tostring isn't really right |
| 09:09.24 | Guest42879 | Neffi: Lua prides itself on being highly reconfigurable |
| 09:10.27 | *** join/#wowuidev Arekana (~Arekana@188-142-9-157.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl) |
| 09:10.28 | Guest42879 | (random sidenote: this is also why writing secure code for Lua is so insanely difficult) |
| 09:24.33 | Sintacks | BNInviteFriend isn't documented so I don't know what it's expecting to invite someone with |
| 09:25.12 | Neffi | ~framexml |
| 09:25.13 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console or open 'World of Warcraft.app' --args -console after game loads press ~ and enter commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml . |
| 09:25.15 | Neffi | might be in there |
| 09:27.10 | Neffi | I think it takes presenceID |
| 09:27.32 | Neffi | Actually I have no idea |
| 09:27.41 | Sintacks | presenceID is that bnet friend. who can have multiple toons. so how would i tknow which toon to invite. |
| 09:29.02 | Sintacks | code in ora's invite system show two more things with BNGetFriendToonInfo than wowprograming. wowpedia says it's a number that's unique to that session |
| 09:29.17 | Sintacks | ora is calling it toonID |
| 09:29.36 | Sintacks | it does seem to be a different number for the people i have online. but i don't have anyone online to try to invite with it |
| 09:30.27 | Neffi | My WoW's inactive again or I'd log in to let you test it on me |
| 09:31.49 | Sintacks | k. it is the toonID thing. |
| 09:31.57 | Sintacks | which is the last thing in BNGetFriendToonInfo |
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| 09:42.56 | Neffi | http://imgur.com/gallery/ef84OkH |
| 09:51.48 | Sintacks | trim() doesn't get rid of ! does it/ |
| 09:52.28 | Sintacks | if it doesn't, something in ora is broken. |
| 09:52.51 | Sintacks | cuz it just tried to invite myself with an ora trigger |
| 09:53.03 | Sintacks | if it does, then shit. it's matching !inv and i don't want it to |
| 09:54.50 | *** join/#wowuidev Jamash (~Thunderbi@c-98-212-84-42.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 10:03.30 | Sintacks | what would for i=1,0 do do |
| 10:03.53 | Maldivia | nothing |
| 10:04.27 | Maldivia | for i=1,0,-1 do on the other hand would count down from 1 to 0 :) |
| 10:04.56 | Sintacks | so for i=100,0,-1 would loop though something backwards? |
| 10:05.05 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 10:05.10 | Sintacks | good to know. |
| 10:05.18 | Maldivia | going from 100 to 0, "incrementing" by -1 every time |
| 10:05.42 | Sintacks | so i=startpoint,endpoint,byhowmuch ? |
| 10:05.46 | Maldivia | exactly |
| 10:05.57 | Sintacks | so you could check every 5 or something |
| 10:06.14 | Sintacks | interesting |
| 10:07.49 | Sintacks | damnit. i ahve to do another loop and i don't wanna |
| 10:08.40 | Sintacks | i guess it makes sense to not say what game someone is in when they send you a bnet message. cuz they could be in multiple games. |
| 10:10.04 | Maldivia | could always return a list of games they are in :P |
| 10:10.12 | Sintacks | lol |
| 10:12.02 | Sintacks | Toon index 0 too large, only 1 toons. |
| 10:12.03 | Sintacks | wat |
| 10:12.26 | Sintacks | when i treid to use 1, it said 1 was too large and toons was 0. |
| 10:28.22 | *** join/#wowuidev Silvanas (5f61542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.97.84.45) |
| 10:28.39 | Silvanas | hi |
| 10:29.36 | zenzio | ohai |
| 10:31.04 | Silvanas | does anyone know an addon that actualy uses player guids ? |
| 10:36.29 | Silvanas | yeh i though so, the systme is annoying, getting player info based on a guid is only wokring if the guid is in local cache |
| 10:38.29 | DJJeff | oqueue 1.7.8 is ready for download :) |
| 10:39.18 | Sintacks | oqueue is gay |
| 10:39.24 | Sintacks | yay. i got this invite shit working |
| 10:39.28 | Sintacks | only took like.. 3 hours |
| 10:40.55 | Sintacks | wait... it's been more like 4 hours |
| 10:41.04 | DJJeff | if you put it that way... wow is gay |
| 10:41.29 | DJJeff | I only play it cause there are no good games out now |
| 10:41.37 | Sintacks | does oqueue still broadcast (OQ) when you login? |
| 10:41.42 | Mr_Rabies | lol, OQ still has the donate button? |
| 10:41.49 | Sintacks | why wouldn't it? |
| 10:42.27 | Sintacks | wait. what donate button? |
| 10:42.32 | Mr_Rabies | why won't he just give up and have it not violate addon policy before he forces blizzard's hand into doing something no one wants |
| 10:42.42 | Mr_Rabies | there's a donate button in the addon, Sintacks |
| 10:42.42 | Sintacks | you mean in game in the addon? |
| 10:42.46 | Sintacks | i think he removed that |
| 10:42.49 | Sintacks | but the screenshot still shows it |
| 10:42.50 | Mr_Rabies | that's why it's banned from curse |
| 10:42.52 | Sintacks | but idk |
| 10:43.15 | Sintacks | i'm not installing it to find out |
| 10:44.29 | DJJeff | its banned from curse because he wants to make money? |
| 10:44.40 | DJJeff | just like everyone else in the world? |
| 10:44.48 | Mr_Rabies | addons aren't allowed to have donation buttons ingame, unfortunately |
| 10:44.56 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 10:44.59 | Mr_Rabies | and curse won't host addons that violate addon policy |
| 10:45.06 | Cairenn | nor WoWI |
| 10:45.14 | Sintacks | cuz they aren't stupid |
| 10:45.35 | DJJeff | a multimillion dollar game wants to be greedy |
| 10:45.47 | DJJeff | and not allow anyone else to make money |
| 10:46.06 | Mr_Rabies | it's their game, they can choose to allow or disallow anything to happen within it |
| 10:46.11 | Neffi | You're allowed to solicit donations on the download page. Just not in game |
| 10:46.18 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 10:46.57 | Sintacks | you can't advertise other addons via addon in game either can you? |
| 10:47.17 | Mr_Rabies | i hope that tiny doesn't force blizzard's hand and they have to expressly ban an addon |
| 10:47.23 | Mr_Rabies | that'll set a bad precedent |
| 10:47.33 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 10:47.38 | Mr_Rabies | it's like batman |
| 10:47.41 | Cairenn | It wouldn't be the first one |
| 10:47.44 | DJJeff | seems the best way to make money is stream on twitch.tv |
| 10:47.48 | Sintacks | function oq.place_tag( parent ) |
| 10:47.49 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:47.51 | DJJeff | and have a donate button under it |
| 10:47.59 | Sintacks | the function still exists in teh code to show it. but i can't find where it's called to show the button |
| 10:48.05 | Mr_Rabies | after the first kill, the next one is easier and so on, so best to avoid it |
| 10:48.11 | Mr_Rabies | did they expressly ban any, Cairenn? |
| 10:48.23 | Cairenn | well, not ban, but break |
| 10:48.24 | Mr_Rabies | i didn't realize they banned any actual addons yet, just methods they don't want them using |
| 10:48.50 | Sintacks | they broke AVR |
| 10:49.00 | Sintacks | there is a ban for any addon that enables cross faction communcation |
| 10:49.05 | nevcairiel | I thought their addon ban list included one or two addons at a time |
| 10:50.09 | Cairenn | I don't remember if there are any that they actually banned, at this point |
| 10:50.17 | DJJeff | is that why curse client is not showing addons that are not part of curse? |
| 10:50.23 | DJJeff | like they did in the past |
| 10:50.29 | Mr_Rabies | what do you mean, DJJeff? |
| 10:50.37 | Cairenn | I know they broke a few, but I don't remember if they banned any |
| 10:50.59 | DJJeff | back in the day curse client would show addons that were not part of curse |
| 10:51.24 | Mr_Rabies | i'd say like 99% of the addons on curse client have nothing to do with curse O_o |
| 10:51.30 | Mr_Rabies | or higher |
| 10:51.39 | nevcairiel | probably got too many questions from clueless users, since it can't do anything with those addons |
| 10:51.43 | DJJeff | I beg to differ from that statement |
| 10:51.57 | nevcairiel | Mr_Rabies: i think he just means hosted on curse |
| 10:52.29 | Mr_Rabies | oh, it listed all your addons, not just those that curse hosts |
| 10:52.32 | Mr_Rabies | that's what you mean |
| 10:53.07 | Mr_Rabies | that's probably just because it's bad to have stuff listed that the program itself can't really do anything with |
| 10:53.53 | Silvanas | i thoguh curse itzelf has a dontate option for addons |
| 10:53.58 | DJJeff | I downloaded an addon from WoWInterface "Broker_Grouphelper" its not showing up in curse client |
| 10:54.03 | Mr_Rabies | it's not gonna pull from wowinterface if the author has decided to keep it wowi-exclusive, because that's bad practice and relies on a "competitor" (i use the term loosely) to function |
| 10:54.19 | Neffi | curse had a client "back in the day"? I thought they developed that post-Ace Updater |
| 10:54.30 | Sintacks | i can't tell when the send beer button shows up, but it does show up on at least one frame |
| 10:55.32 | Silvanas | my addons are wowi exclusieve becase i dont like curse and thier adds and thier to pushy with thier install curse client |
| 10:56.27 | Neffi | My biggest problem is Curse's site can bring Chrome to its knees. |
| 10:56.31 | Mr_Rabies | i wish wowi had a good curse client alternative, i prefer the site but manually updating addons feels so 2004 at this point :/ |
| 10:57.20 | Sintacks | some addons will show up in curse that aren't on curse if the author adds the right tags to the .toc |
| 10:57.26 | Sintacks | at least it used to do that |
| 10:57.43 | Sintacks | cuz it used to tell me when there was an update for somethin. i don't rember what it was though |
| 10:57.47 | Sintacks | i really need a new keyboard |
| 10:59.33 | Mr_Rabies | i like most of the functionality of the curse client, but the ads are often obtrusive and the premium option really isn't worth it for me :/ |
| 11:00.55 | Silvanas | in an impuls i boguht curse premium yesterday :D |
| 11:01.27 | Sintacks | i had a month once. i liked it. |
| 11:01.36 | Silvanas | it said they give beta keys to premiun users first, so in an impulse i though it mgiht get me a WoD beta key so i bough it lol |
| 11:01.48 | Sintacks | lol |
| 11:01.50 | nevcairiel | that assumes they get any |
| 11:01.59 | nevcairiel | for mop blizz handled it all themself |
| 11:02.01 | Sintacks | i was given a month cuz i was QQ'ing about patch day and having to update 80 addons |
| 11:02.04 | Silvanas | dont they always get keys ? |
| 11:02.05 | Mr_Rabies | it was nice, but some value being added would make it more worth it |
| 11:02.46 | Sintacks | i still don't get the point of WeakAuras becoming WeakAuras 2 .. |
| 11:02.58 | Mr_Rabies | $30 a year for using a few megabytes of data a month and not viewing potentially dangerous ads might be worth it if i made more |
| 11:03.20 | nevcairiel | what value would you like added? |
| 11:04.09 | Mr_Rabies | i dunno, but it's just eh |
| 11:04.10 | nevcairiel | (also, i'm still quite annoyed curse premium doesnt block ads on mmo-c, despite it showing the curse ads, and even advertising premium there :P) |
| 11:04.27 | nevcairiel | because stupid mmo-c has its own user database <.< |
| 11:04.40 | Mr_Rabies | like for example, i pay yearly for ask mr. robot and i feel like i'm getting my money's worth |
| 11:04.43 | Silvanas | indeed that surprised me also, i use mmo champ on a daily basis but still evne if i log in to curse mmo champo doesnt seem to care |
| 11:05.05 | Mr_Rabies | but curse just doesn't seem to really offer me anything worth the price at the moment |
| 11:07.00 | Mr_Rabies | AMR is $12 a year and curse having a price around that point would probably wind up getting more money in the long run |
| 11:08.02 | Sintacks | amr doeasn't have the bandwidth needs that curse has |
| 11:08.14 | DJJeff | http://oi57.tinypic.com/wbb1xw.jpg |
| 11:08.23 | DJJeff | what is this? I don't even |
| 11:08.46 | Sintacks | what about it |
| 11:08.51 | DJJeff | just looks like steamy pile of poop |
| 11:08.56 | Mr_Rabies | that screenshot is my OQ experience in a nutshell |
| 11:08.57 | Sintacks | it's all encoded shit |
| 11:09.20 | DJJeff | looks encoded and obfuscated like crazy |
| 11:09.38 | Sintacks | it's more so compressed |
| 11:09.51 | Sintacks | same way weakauras compresses a string |
| 11:09.53 | nevcairiel | serialized data structures just look like this |
| 11:10.04 | nevcairiel | you're not supposed to look into the hidden channels anyway :p |
| 11:10.15 | Mr_Rabies | still, Sintacks, i'd think they'd make more per month on premium subs if the price was worth it |
| 11:10.18 | Sintacks | fuck that shit. i look into everything |
| 11:10.34 | Sintacks | i even broke the prefix limit for addon comms just so i could see everything i would get |
| 11:10.37 | DJJeff | nevcairiel why not |
| 11:10.41 | Mr_Rabies | right now it's basically just a gesture of kindness in lieu of adblock or something |
| 11:10.59 | Mr_Rabies | (though adblocking the client is probably much more difficult) |
| 11:11.00 | Sintacks | wtf is Gryphonheart Items |
| 11:11.25 | Sintacks | oh. it's an RP addon |
| 11:11.42 | Sintacks | keep getting version requests from people with it. lol |
| 11:12.04 | Sintacks | i know all the people on my server that use SuperGuildInvite |
| 11:12.13 | Mr_Rabies | my favorite rp-related activity is going to moon guard's goldshire with a flagrsp-compatible addon on |
| 11:12.16 | Mr_Rabies | for like 10 minutes |
| 11:12.28 | Mr_Rabies | before i recoil in terror and disable it and delete that character |
| 11:12.37 | Sintacks | i have a toon on moon guard |
| 11:12.46 | Sintacks | named Chkswitdix |
| 11:12.53 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 11:13.00 | Sintacks | i go to troll |
| 11:13.17 | Mr_Rabies | i observe humanity in its natual state |
| 11:13.19 | DJJeff | does superguildinvite use a channel to comm? |
| 11:13.28 | Sintacks | i wish MiksScrollingBattletext supported dual spec |
| 11:13.42 | DJJeff | Mr_Rabies like sitting in a mall watching people? |
| 11:13.53 | Sintacks | no jeff. it uses whisper before sending you an invite to see if you have either the addon, or an addon made to block getting the invite. if it doesn't get a reply, it sends the invite. |
| 11:14.08 | Sintacks | So, the author of SuperGuildInvite made an addon to block SuperGuildInvite |
| 11:14.24 | DJJeff | haha lol |
| 11:14.51 | Sintacks | of all the guild addons though, superguildinvite is the least annoying. |
| 11:15.01 | Sintacks | if it errors when trying to invite you, it won't send a tell to you anyway. |
| 11:15.06 | Sintacks | like, if you are declinding invites |
| 11:15.08 | Sintacks | it won't send the tell |
| 11:15.17 | Mr_Rabies | my guild's GMs use superguildinvite |
| 11:15.30 | Sintacks | if yo have a pending guild invite, it won't send the tell, because the invite attempt failed because someone beat you to it |
| 11:15.31 | Mr_Rabies | i'm not a fan of the concept, personally |
| 11:15.45 | Mr_Rabies | but whatever, it mostly means i just ignore guild chat and chat in /o |
| 11:16.02 | Sintacks | my guild doesn't have random socials |
| 11:16.11 | Sintacks | only friends and family of raiders or old raiders |
| 11:16.13 | Mr_Rabies | since like 60% of the raid is an officer anyway |
| 11:16.55 | Mr_Rabies | i just demote any morons that do terrible things to a muted rank if the GM isn't on |
| 11:17.07 | Mr_Rabies | like spam guild chat |
| 11:17.16 | Mr_Rabies | i'm about to go berserk on auto-gratsers |
| 11:17.30 | Sintacks | Spamalyzer says "left-click to change the datafeed type." |
| 11:17.32 | Sintacks | i have no idea what that means |
| 11:17.34 | Sintacks | and it doesn't do anything |
| 11:17.47 | DJJeff | all I know is I created a level 1 on Area52 horde and about every 15 seconds I get whispered and invited to a guild |
| 11:18.05 | Sintacks | yeah |
| 11:18.07 | DJJeff | because of addons like that |
| 11:18.09 | Mr_Rabies | getting an achivement for picking my first crop on an alt on sunsong ranch is not gratsable behavior :( |
| 11:18.35 | Sintacks | i logged into two toons on A52 just to get the christmas presents and got ginvited on both of them nearly instantly |
| 11:18.37 | nevcairiel | on big realms its quite common, unless i plan to get into a real guild i usually just accept the first not-too-crappy name and level in peace :p |
| 11:18.46 | Mr_Rabies | if you turn off guild invites you _should_ be okay, DJJeff |
| 11:18.48 | DJJeff | I thought blizzard had a built in looking for guild channel |
| 11:18.56 | Sintacks | that's what most do nevcairiel. just to not get invited again |
| 11:18.57 | DJJeff | Mr_Rabies I know that |
| 11:19.03 | DJJeff | thats not the point I was making |
| 11:19.04 | nevcairiel | have to silence guild chat though, even without auto-gratsing addons, some people just do it for *everyhting* |
| 11:19.07 | Sintacks | it does, jeff. but it sucks. |
| 11:19.31 | Mr_Rabies | i really wish the chat channels were linked across the game world |
| 11:19.37 | DJJeff | so TL:DR blizzard needs a better guild finder |
| 11:19.41 | Mr_Rabies | i think that's the real trick to getting people in the game world more, not dailies |
| 11:20.01 | nevcairiel | i think general chat would be rather terrible if it were global |
| 11:20.09 | Mr_Rabies | people stay in town because the social aspect is still a big part of the game for a lot of people |
| 11:20.19 | nevcairiel | in leveling zones its usually bearable as people actually ask questions about the zone |
| 11:20.22 | nevcairiel | if it were global... |
| 11:20.24 | nevcairiel | useless |
| 11:20.32 | DJJeff | Timeless Isle on A52 horde gets up to 250 people |
| 11:20.46 | Mr_Rabies | people who don't wanna hear general chat can always turn it off, but currently general chat outside of cities is just about dead |
| 11:20.50 | Sintacks | where is mankriks wife? |
| 11:20.52 | DJJeff | Timeless Isle on my realm gets like 30 people at best |
| 11:21.01 | Semlar | she dead |
| 11:21.07 | rid__ | :( |
| 11:21.12 | DJJeff | he's dead jim - star trek quote |
| 11:21.28 | Mr_Rabies | so people just idle in town talking instead of playing the game |
| 11:21.32 | Sintacks | oh god. WoWhead has an achievemnt for seraching for her on there |
| 11:21.42 | Mr_Rabies | i miss the old days of global LFG |
| 11:22.11 | nevcairiel | Mr_Rabies: even if I don't use it myself, the platform to ask for hints on quests in a specific zone is useful, and I answer questions in there, if it were global, it wouldn't be used for this anymore, but for the same shit that its used for in the cities, LFG and trade :p |
| 11:22.25 | Mr_Rabies | i use tradeforwarder currently but it relies on someone to idle in town |
| 11:22.35 | nevcairiel | so dont take zone specific general chat away |
| 11:22.37 | Mr_Rabies | and one of the biggest town idlers is also a tremendous trade troll |
| 11:22.44 | Sintacks | "This quest was marked obsolete by Blizzard and cannot be obtained or completed. |
| 11:22.44 | Sintacks | " |
| 11:22.45 | Sintacks | :( |
| 11:22.52 | Mr_Rabies | that's fine, nevcairiel |
| 11:22.54 | Mr_Rabies | they could do like |
| 11:23.20 | Mr_Rabies | 1. General 2. Local Zone Chat outside of cities |
| 11:23.21 | Sintacks | o |
| 11:23.23 | Sintacks | er |
| 11:23.28 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:23.38 | *** part/#wowuidev Semlar (~chatzilla@142.196.185.93) |
| 11:23.38 | Sintacks | i'm dumb. i could have made this invite aura only load when in a raid group. and then i wouldn't need the logic to check for that |
| 11:23.39 | Mr_Rabies | in cities, 1. General (linked to global general) and 2. Trade |
| 11:23.40 | Mr_Rabies | etc |
| 11:24.02 | Sintacks | maybe not |
| 11:24.04 | *** join/#wowuidev Semlar (~chatzilla@142.196.185.93) |
| 11:24.12 | Mr_Rabies | semlar good at chatzilla |
| 11:24.21 | Sintacks | or not |
| 11:24.45 | *** join/#wowuidev Semlar (~chatzilla@142.196.185.93) |
| 11:24.53 | Semlar | i don't even know what i pushed! |
| 11:25.02 | Mr_Rabies | i think both could exist, nevcairiel |
| 11:25.08 | Semlar | chatzilla had the alt key stuck down :l |
| 11:25.29 | Semlar | y u do dis |
| 11:25.39 | Mr_Rabies | tradeforwarder is far from perfect and i've heard horror stories of people getting banned for using it since they're forwarding profanity at times |
| 11:25.44 | Sintacks | slaps Semlar around a bit with a large trout | 4,822 tributes to Monty Python |
| 11:25.55 | Semlar | oh yeah, SPOILER ALERT i die |
| 11:25.56 | Sintacks | Semlar, you has alliance toon? |
| 11:26.03 | Semlar | no |
| 11:26.13 | Sintacks | damn. that's the only test i haven't done to make sure this doesn't fuck up for |
| 11:26.22 | Sintacks | i should add a level req too |
| 11:26.35 | Semlar | pretty sure some of the people here play alliance |
| 11:27.26 | Sintacks | !api BNGetFriendToonInfo |
| 11:27.34 | Sintacks | asdgasfajf |
| 11:27.53 | Mr_Rabies | wish the armory would unbutt itself |
| 11:28.17 | Semlar | it works for me now |
| 11:28.23 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:28.23 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:28.25 | Sintacks | boom |
| 11:28.31 | Mr_Rabies | it's way slow at updating, semlar |
| 11:28.40 | Mr_Rabies | could just be the queue is full right now on updates |
| 11:28.48 | Mr_Rabies | it's up, but pretty outdated |
| 11:29.38 | Mr_Rabies | i got 2 fist weapons equipped on my monk a few hours ago and still not updated on the armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/llane/domon/advanced |
| 11:29.51 | Semlar | ah i figured out why the mark changed targets, bestial wrath broke it |
| 11:29.57 | Semlar | that's fucking retarded |
| 11:30.21 | Sintacks | so what do your nameplates even do that uses so much cpu |
| 11:30.38 | Semlar | they just update a lot of stuff every frame |
| 11:30.46 | Sintacks | like what |
| 11:30.51 | Semlar | everything |
| 11:31.05 | Sintacks | o.O |
| 11:31.22 | Semlar | i could go through and figure out what i can throttle |
| 11:31.32 | Sintacks | what do they even look like |
| 11:31.58 | Semlar | well they're in the video i linked earlier |
| 11:32.05 | Sintacks | i didn't see said video |
| 11:32.13 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:32.23 | nevcairiel | i like having debuffs on my nameplates, but it also east a lot of cpu when it tracks those |
| 11:32.38 | Mr_Rabies | they have a full-screen gif of nicolas cage's face that animates rapidly, like, super rapidly, oscillating between colors |
| 11:32.56 | Semlar | that would probably use less cpu |
| 11:33.14 | Semlar | i'm not terribly worried about it because it doesn't really affect my frame rate |
| 11:33.41 | Sintacks | dude what. is that some AVR level shit |
| 11:33.57 | Semlar | nah |
| 11:33.59 | Sintacks | dat mumble atteunation |
| 11:34.02 | Sintacks | it's close enough |
| 11:34.07 | Sintacks | fuckingg arrows between the tank and it's target |
| 11:34.13 | nevcairiel | why do you hide your character behind some crazy image |
| 11:34.14 | Mr_Rabies | what is going on with that cow skull thing |
| 11:34.15 | Sintacks | or between everyone and their target |
| 11:34.25 | Mr_Rabies | does it have cannons that shoot stuff out of them on the sides |
| 11:34.33 | Semlar | the skull thing i was just playing around with weak auras |
| 11:34.49 | Sintacks | hehe. the pet not attack aura |
| 11:34.50 | Sintacks | i like it |
| 11:35.04 | Sintacks | timers over boss frames.... |
| 11:35.08 | Sintacks | i expected better from you |
| 11:35.27 | Semlar | yeah i don't really use the boss frames so they're just kind of covered with crap |
| 11:35.31 | Mr_Rabies | i need to get our hunter a weakaura thing that flashes his screen when his pet's standing there idle |
| 11:35.45 | Mr_Rabies | because that seems to be just about every fight |
| 11:36.02 | Mr_Rabies | we're like | | this close to replacing him except for he's accidentally hilarious basically every raid |
| 11:36.10 | Semlar | the giant bouncing claw icon is whenever my pet isn't attacking in combat |
| 11:36.23 | Sintacks | so i can see with the name places. casts and names. an arrow from a plate to it's target's plate |
| 11:36.30 | Sintacks | which is fucking awesome |
| 11:36.38 | Sintacks | would make it so much easier tos ee who is targeting the wrong thing |
| 11:36.47 | Semlar | they're a little messy on this fight with all the people standing on top of each other but meh |
| 11:36.52 | Mr_Rabies | one time he was late for a raid because |
| 11:36.55 | Mr_Rabies | and i quote |
| 11:37.03 | Mr_Rabies | his "cat didn't wake him up in time" |
| 11:37.21 | Sintacks | what was the numbers with Bodypull under it |
| 11:37.24 | Semlar | i wouldn't rely on a cat to wake you up on time |
| 11:37.40 | Mr_Rabies | he's always so unprepared for raids |
| 11:37.41 | Semlar | oh it's a fake nameplate for me |
| 11:37.50 | Sintacks | what are the numbers for |
| 11:37.55 | Semlar | my healf |
| 11:37.58 | Mr_Rabies | never has flasks, had to bum meta gems off guildies midraid the other day |
| 11:38.00 | Sintacks | thought so |
| 11:38.09 | Mr_Rabies | started like 30 minutes late for a 3 hour raid :| |
| 11:38.45 | Mr_Rabies | apparently he somehow only has like 200G |
| 11:38.46 | Mr_Rabies | i don't even |
| 11:38.55 | Sintacks | that weakaura cluster in the middle is crazy |
| 11:39.02 | Semlar | it might be a little much |
| 11:39.08 | Sintacks | i think it's awesome |
| 11:39.17 | Semlar | it does track a ton of stuff though |
| 11:39.29 | Semlar | i got a little carried away with that |
| 11:39.36 | Mr_Rabies | oh hey |
| 11:39.39 | Mr_Rabies | castle crashers music |
| 11:39.52 | Sintacks | aren't you still toggling name plates every update? |
| 11:40.05 | Semlar | nah that never worked very well |
| 11:40.17 | Mr_Rabies | stamper did the music for castle crashers |
| 11:40.18 | Semlar | i ended up just scaling the plates so they had a smaller hitbox |
| 11:40.22 | Mr_Rabies | that weird, weird man |
| 11:40.26 | Sintacks | that makes sense. |
| 11:40.31 | DJJeff | oQueue vent support is not up to par |
| 11:40.34 | Sintacks | tiny hitbox so you should be able to click on the person right? |
| 11:40.44 | DJJeff | (rolls head on keyboard) |
| 11:40.56 | Sintacks | now i nkow what Semlar sounds like |
| 11:40.57 | Sintacks | yay |
| 11:41.14 | Sintacks | lol get raped by anguish |
| 11:41.24 | DJJeff | grandad sounds 60+ |
| 11:41.34 | Semlar | i don't think my mic is in this |
| 11:41.42 | Sintacks | my wow would crash trying to run your nameplates |
| 11:41.50 | Mr_Rabies | stamper did the music/narrator VO for battleblock theater too, Semlar |
| 11:41.53 | Sintacks | it is. you said "send it to me. bodypull" i think |
| 11:41.57 | Sintacks | or i'm crazy |
| 11:41.58 | Sintacks | mabye not |
| 11:41.58 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuIbdMZ_tfY |
| 11:41.59 | Sintacks | idk |
| 11:42.07 | Semlar | but i am bodypull! |
| 11:42.41 | Sintacks | maybe that wasn't you saying it |
| 11:42.49 | Sintacks | someone else said to send it to you and you got it wice. and you died. |
| 11:42.50 | Sintacks | lol |
| 11:42.57 | Semlar | yeah that was haviqq |
| 11:43.02 | Sintacks | what are the wings for/ |
| 11:43.12 | Semlar | one of my trinket procs |
| 11:43.30 | Semlar | i think the agility proc from assurance of consequence |
| 11:43.48 | DJJeff | if you play League of Legends you can see how your friends list can be put into folders |
| 11:43.51 | Semlar | i usually delay stampede for it |
| 11:43.58 | DJJeff | why has Battle.Net not done this yet |
| 11:44.18 | Sintacks | because blizzard's UI team sucks |
| 11:44.23 | DJJeff | haha |
| 11:44.26 | Sintacks | they should hire Semlar |
| 11:44.30 | Semlar | >_> |
| 11:44.41 | Semlar | not if they ever want to finish anything |
| 11:44.50 | Sintacks | hahaha |
| 11:45.06 | Sintacks | oh. grats on protectors |
| 11:45.15 | DJJeff | so riot games has a smart dev team than blizzard entertainment? |
| 11:45.24 | Sintacks | from whenever you gotg it |
| 11:45.25 | Sintacks | lulz |
| 11:45.29 | Sintacks | wy do you have two videos for proctectors |
| 11:46.09 | Semlar | i usually upload our best attempt on new bosses |
| 11:46.30 | Sintacks | wtf. clicking your CDs on your opener |
| 11:46.31 | Sintacks | bad |
| 11:46.40 | Semlar | :l |
| 11:47.34 | Sintacks | your name plates wouldn't work well in 25 man |
| 11:47.39 | Sintacks | too many people. too much clutter |
| 11:47.44 | Semlar | maybe not with friendly nameplates |
| 11:48.19 | Sintacks | now if you had a setting to not show as much on friendly plates and just show the target arrow and name maybe. |
| 11:48.55 | Semlar | i might actually change the arrow to something else |
| 11:49.26 | Semlar | i was thinking about short pulses to indicate combat events between two nameplates |
| 11:49.40 | Semlar | heals or damage, whatever |
| 11:50.08 | DJJeff | blizzard will never make cross realm chat channels |
| 11:50.10 | Semlar | they'd just be thin lines |
| 11:50.27 | Sintacks | short of CRZ channels, no |
| 11:53.24 | zenzio | "Why can't native machine code be easily decompiled?" -- "It is difficult to make a cow out of hamburgers." |
| 11:56.39 | Semlar | i could make a cow out of hamburgers |
| 11:57.06 | Semlar | we have the technology.. |
| 11:58.39 | Humbedooh | oooh yeah, that reminds me of all the bacon'n'eggs I have in my fridge |
| 12:00.33 | Semlar | i feel like pacman chasing mistweaver healing orbs |
| 12:01.10 | *** join/#wowuidev Silvanas (5f61542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.97.84.45) |
| 12:01.15 | Silvanas | i am back |
| 12:02.49 | Mr_Rabies | i said the same thing after paragons yesterday semlar |
| 12:03.01 | Mr_Rabies | after the fight there were dozens of orbs down |
| 12:03.17 | Mr_Rabies | because our monk uses the glyph that keeps the orbs up for 3 mins, apparently |
| 12:03.20 | Semlar | every time i'm in a group without a mistweaver i don't know what to do with myself |
| 12:03.51 | Semlar | they're like little healthstones |
| 12:03.51 | Mr_Rabies | i do the same thing i always do |
| 12:04.13 | Mr_Rabies | jump around like an idiot slapping the boss's butt for several minutes until it dies |
| 12:04.20 | Semlar | it's just not the same |
| 12:04.30 | Mr_Rabies | having to backstab really sucks for so many fights :( |
| 12:04.43 | Mr_Rabies | and being chained to combo points |
| 12:05.01 | VIad | anyone want to test http://vlacula.no-ip.com/wow/RareFarmer.zip at the timeless isle? |
| 12:05.18 | Mr_Rabies | if it's a target swapping fight where i can't backstab regularly i do like, no dps |
| 12:06.46 | Semlar | if the targets have any distance between them my pet spends quite a lot of time not doing any damage |
| 12:06.51 | Mr_Rabies | fighting to backstab on blastfuse is a tiny nightmare |
| 12:07.25 | Mr_Rabies | tank has to face him away, but he turns constantly to throw buzzsaws |
| 12:08.10 | *** join/#wowuidev Dashkal (~dashkal@unaffiliated/dashkal) |
| 12:08.35 | Semlar | if it makes you feel any better i'm hardly ever on the platform for blackfuse |
| 12:09.02 | Semlar | i have to hop up there and do the assembly line |
| 12:10.11 | Mr_Rabies | i had to yesterday because our normal crew kept putzing up the timers |
| 12:10.13 | Mr_Rabies | and i was like |
| 12:10.21 | Mr_Rabies | "okay what do i up here again" |
| 12:10.29 | Mr_Rabies | what do i kill* |
| 12:10.33 | Semlar | something! |
| 12:10.35 | Semlar | anything! |
| 12:10.44 | Mr_Rabies | it was mines |
| 12:10.55 | Mr_Rabies | and i realized my rampup was almost too low to kill it in time |
| 12:11.16 | Semlar | the pet bugs out up there sometimes |
| 12:11.18 | Mr_Rabies | i'm getting so surpassed by my raid now that they're geared :/ |
| 12:11.25 | Semlar | makes it kind of scary |
| 12:11.30 | Mr_Rabies | i need a heroic weapon and soon |
| 12:11.36 | DJJeff | you guys are correct oQueue is a POS addon |
| 12:11.42 | Mr_Rabies | i miss being first on charts |
| 12:11.46 | Semlar | oq is an abomination |
| 12:12.07 | Semlar | i suggest not looking at the code |
| 12:12.39 | DJJeff | I am gonna just delete it and try hard to forget about it |
| 12:12.46 | Mr_Rabies | it's a great idea, poorly implemented, written by a guy with some social issues who aggressively, angrily refuses any suggestions as to helping fix it |
| 12:13.05 | Mr_Rabies | use openraid and/or the raid browser, DJJeff |
| 12:13.09 | DJJeff | the girl in vent doing support sounds hot tho |
| 12:13.17 | DJJeff | ;-) |
| 12:14.15 | DJJeff | could do without the crappy dubstep tho |
| 12:16.57 | Semlar | what kind of addon needs tech support |
| 12:24.22 | jleclanche | Alram: why do people bother voting for democracy? its the third time democracy has been put in place today. every time it lasts less than 10 minutes, during which the only input is start9 and then its back to anarchy |
| 12:24.33 | jleclanche | if democracy was there to avoid wasting time... kinda missed the mark there |
| 12:24.42 | Semlar | start9 |
| 12:24.49 | Semlar | praise helix |
| 12:25.10 | jleclanche | and when its not start9, there is so much delay on the input that the WRONG input wins |
| 12:25.20 | Semlar | long live jay leno |
| 12:25.26 | jleclanche | dude you have issues |
| 12:25.52 | Semlar | how far has the stream gotten |
| 12:25.53 | jleclanche | and we're back to anarchy |
| 12:25.57 | jleclanche | they're at the safari |
| 12:26.03 | Semlar | oh no |
| 12:26.25 | jleclanche | they're basically at an impasse right now. the safari cant be done in either democracy nor anarchy |
| 12:26.28 | Semlar | they couldn't possibly do safari zone |
| 12:26.30 | jleclanche | the stepcount needs to be dropped |
| 12:26.48 | Sintacks | VIad, wat's it do |
| 12:27.02 | VIad | places rares on the map and tries to track their status |
| 12:27.37 | VIad | uses combatlog, chat messages and custom-chat to communicate and read data from |
| 12:27.40 | Semlar | do they even have something to teach surf to yet |
| 12:27.41 | Sintacks | so yet another rare addon |
| 12:28.04 | jleclanche | Semlar: they're looking for a lapras after that |
| 12:28.16 | Semlar | looking for? |
| 12:28.27 | Sintacks | WTF THIS DELETED ALL MY GEAR |
| 12:28.27 | Sintacks | hax |
| 12:28.45 | Semlar | there's only one lapras in the game |
| 12:29.13 | Semlar | and they didn't manage to get it the last time they were there |
| 12:30.01 | Sintacks | http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/02/20/california-state-division/5661143/ |
| 12:30.01 | Sintacks | wat |
| 12:30.08 | Alram | jleclanche, democracy is pretty useless since people are dumb |
| 12:30.27 | jleclanche | Alram: the way i see it it was useful to get past the maze but it should be removed now |
| 12:30.31 | Semlar | sintacks i clicked on the web page and it closed the article this is the worst website ever |
| 12:30.46 | Sintacks | lol true |
| 12:30.47 | jleclanche | Alram: in the current state, all it does is waste time when it's in place, and waste input when it's not |
| 12:30.53 | Alram | agree |
| 12:30.56 | Alram | but hey |
| 12:31.00 | Alram | its twitch plays pokemon |
| 12:31.07 | Semlar | it's a way of life |
| 12:31.08 | Alram | so in itself its already a pretty big waste of time |
| 12:31.11 | Alram | or that |
| 12:32.34 | Silvanas | any news from keiv?\ |
| 12:34.00 | Semlar | i think my favorite part of twitch plays pokemon was when they released their starting pokemon |
| 12:34.14 | Sintacks | VIad, your channel name is too long |
| 12:34.22 | VIad | nah |
| 12:34.24 | VIad | works for me :D |
| 12:34.41 | VIad | it's not supposed to be used by people, just the addon |
| 12:34.48 | Sintacks | addon isn't doing anhything either |
| 12:35.15 | VIad | you gotta gather data |
| 12:35.29 | Sintacks | wat |
| 12:35.29 | VIad | the default is to show avatars at the rare location |
| 12:35.46 | Sintacks | oh. it's all on the map |
| 12:35.49 | VIad | it updates those based on your discovery and what data it gathers from the game, e.g. |
| 12:35.53 | Sintacks | well. it didn't display anything when this rare was up |
| 12:36.03 | VIad | like npcscan you gotta do more than just be there |
| 12:36.10 | VIad | targeting, mouseover, partymouseover, combatlog, e.g. |
| 12:36.21 | VIad | I am adding an on screen notifier atm |
| 12:36.24 | Sintacks | the rare was being killed. in combatlog. didn't do anything. |
| 12:36.28 | VIad | to help better inform when a new rare is up |
| 12:36.30 | VIad | hmm |
| 12:36.31 | Sintacks | didn't even do anything when i targeted it and killed it |
| 12:36.36 | VIad | that's weird |
| 12:37.26 | Sintacks | i see nothing when i mouseover things either |
| 12:37.39 | VIad | you broke it gj |
| 12:38.28 | Sintacks | is the world map supposed to show data? |
| 12:38.55 | VIad | it colors them green if alive |
| 12:38.57 | VIad | red if dead |
| 12:38.59 | VIad | nothing if unknown |
| 12:39.04 | VIad | tooltip displays the time since killed |
| 12:39.09 | VIad | or health % if available |
| 12:39.28 | Sintacks | so houlon is up. i have her targeted. nothing on the map but a red icon |
| 12:39.34 | VIad | thats odd |
| 12:39.48 | Semlar | i wrote one of these once http://i.imgur.com/3xOBEt5.jpg |
| 12:39.52 | VIad | I am working on it atm so it might have failed under the right conditions, something I didnt notice yet :p |
| 12:40.07 | VIad | making mine more visual for the newbies |
| 12:40.11 | VIad | i.e. my friends mostly :P |
| 12:40.17 | VIad | they dont know the locations yet |
| 12:40.27 | VIad | thats why I bother at all atm |
| 12:40.30 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:40.51 | Sintacks | my UI is stupid and i can't enable the comm channel to see if it's even doing anything |
| 12:41.58 | VIad | Semlar: nice |
| 12:42.13 | Semlar | i decided it was kinda pointless to compete with the existing rare tracker addon |
| 12:42.13 | VIad | Sintacks: actually the comchat only works with my addon :p |
| 12:42.22 | VIad | but it does read the general chat for a couple of other addons that send messages |
| 12:42.34 | VIad | or at least it is supposed to |
| 12:42.44 | Sintacks | i meant to see if i'm sending anyything to the channel when i see rare |
| 12:43.26 | Stanzilla | "Show numbers for cooldowns" < new in WoD |
| 12:43.32 | Stanzilla | Tuller out of job :( |
| 12:44.01 | VIad | ah yes |
| 12:44.17 | VIad | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:44.43 | Sintacks | wat Stanzilla |
| 12:44.57 | Sintacks | 42:58|[8][90:Sintacs-Sen'jin]: 681729*73175*0.5460*0.5300*Cinderfall*51192*1.0000*1392986578 |
| 12:45.17 | Sintacks | i'm sending to comm channel when i target |
| 12:45.45 | Stanzilla | Sintacks: they finally added that in beta |
| 12:46.04 | Sintacks | added what |
| 12:46.05 | Sintacks | i'm confused |
| 12:46.09 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:46.12 | Sintacks | ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 12:46.17 | Sintacks | show time for cooldowns on icons |
| 12:46.22 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 12:46.37 | Sintacks | wat dat Semlar |
| 12:47.00 | Semlar | crosshairs for your target |
| 12:47.04 | Sintacks | oh god |
| 12:47.23 | Semlar | it's really quite hard to miss |
| 12:48.19 | Sintacks | 47:45|[8][90:Sintacs-Sen'jin]: 765729*73175*0.5512*0.5502*Cinderfall*51192*0.0000*1392986861 |
| 12:49.04 | Sintacks | i know what two of those things are |
| 12:49.07 | Sintacks | three i guess |
| 12:53.23 | *** join/#wowuidev g0urra (~g0urra@unaffiliated/gourra) |
| 12:54.16 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:55.02 | Stanzilla | that is pretty neat |
| 12:55.57 | Semlar | i actually feel like the player arrow is a better target indicator though |
| 12:56.11 | Semlar | it draws the eye better for some reason |
| 12:59.00 | Silvanas | i should probely start working on my april fools targeting addon |
| 13:00.26 | Silvanas | show a small circle of what the player is targeting and make the rest of the screen black, and add a story that it lets you focus on your target better and thereby optimsing your dkp |
| 13:00.41 | Silvanas | *dps |
| 13:09.06 | DJJeff | Vlad what does rarefarmer do? |
| 13:09.15 | Silvanas | so i was just reading, BN_CHAT_MSG_ADDON does that mean that it is now posable to send data into wow from outside of wow |
| 13:09.42 | Cloudfoz | Why would it mean that |
| 13:09.54 | DJJeff | other than join and leave a chat channel |
| 13:10.47 | Cloudfoz | WoW is the only battle.net game with addons, and that addon chat channel is for WoW to WoW communication, obviously |
| 13:11.03 | Silvanas | oke, the CHAT_MSG_ADDON made me thing of data directly out of other addons ;D |
| 13:12.19 | Cloudfoz | ... Yes? That's what it's for |
| 13:12.41 | Cloudfoz | Other players' addons |
| 13:12.57 | karl_w_w | my fucking god |
| 13:13.05 | karl_w_w | they managed to make youtube worse again |
| 13:13.07 | DJJeff | http://puu.sh/74ytb.png |
| 13:13.23 | DJJeff | and yes karl_w_w youtube is garbage right now |
| 13:13.41 | DJJeff | I am having a hard time even finding the settings page for youtube |
| 13:13.55 | Silvanas | oke so you can send messages to your BN's frends addons who play on different servver> |
| 13:14.09 | Sintacks | mine's not doing that, jeff |
| 13:14.21 | DJJeff | doing what? |
| 13:14.28 | Sintacks | joining and parting the channel |
| 13:14.41 | DJJeff | well mine is |
| 13:14.43 | Stanzilla | cogwheel => youtube settings |
| 13:14.45 | Stanzilla | well that was hard |
| 13:14.56 | DJJeff | where is the cogwheel? |
| 13:14.57 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/WqLMDE3 |
| 13:15.10 | Stanzilla | next to the upload button |
| 13:15.14 | DJJeff | I have a box just like that haha |
| 13:15.57 | VIad | lol |
| 13:16.00 | DJJeff | http://www.youtube.com/account |
| 13:16.06 | VIad | Message: [string "Death and Respawn Check"]:51: attempt to index field 'states' (a nil value) |
| 13:16.06 | VIad | Time: 02/21/14 14:14:54 |
| 13:16.06 | VIad | Count: 1 |
| 13:16.06 | VIad | [C]: ? |
| 13:16.06 | VIad | [string "Death and Respawn Check"]:51: in function `DeathAndRespawnCheck' |
| 13:16.07 | VIad | [string "Display Damage"]:23: in function `SetHealth' |
| 13:16.07 | VIad | [string "Init Player Team"]:283: in function `InitPet' |
| 13:16.08 | VIad | [string "Init Player Team"]:184: in function `InitTeam' |
| 13:16.08 | VIad | [string "PetBattle - 0. Init and Main Loop"]:55: in main chunk |
| 13:16.14 | Cloudfoz | Silvanas: precisely |
| 13:16.16 | DJJeff | this does not contain anyting about playback settings |
| 13:16.31 | Sintacks | I only got that one on my level 3 toon |
| 13:16.36 | Sintacks | haven't seen that error on anyone else |
| 13:16.36 | DJJeff | and OMG VIad have you used pastebin before? |
| 13:16.44 | Sintacks | what's pastebin. |
| 13:16.52 | Sintacks | pastes 1235 lines of code |
| 13:17.47 | DJJeff | ohhhhhhhhhhh |
| 13:17.48 | DJJeff | http://www.youtube.com/account_playback |
| 13:17.54 | DJJeff | that was the page I was looking for |
| 13:18.06 | DJJeff | disable annotations |
| 13:18.09 | DJJeff | they are crap anyways |
| 13:19.48 | *** join/#wowuidev bluipodcow (~bluspacec@121.99.21.61) |
| 13:19.48 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v bluipodcow] by ChanServ |
| 13:21.16 | Silvanas | Cloudfoz: thats awsme now we cna make gearscore world wide !! |
| 13:21.36 | Sintacks | wat |
| 13:21.40 | Cloudfoz | Silvanas: wat |
| 13:21.47 | Sintacks | ohh |
| 13:21.53 | Cloudfoz | Also, I think you need to clean your keyboard |
| 13:21.56 | Sintacks | it's what oqueue is using now |
| 13:21.58 | Sintacks | because it has to |
| 13:22.02 | Sintacks | cuz they limited bnet messages |
| 13:22.04 | Sintacks | rlolol |
| 13:22.10 | Sintacks | 10 per 10 is kind of meh though |
| 13:22.16 | Cloudfoz | Of course, it was made for oqueue |
| 13:22.42 | nevcairiel | they wanted to get it out of the normal bnet chat because it spammed you if oyu happened to be in another game |
| 13:22.50 | Sintacks | more so it was made because of oqueue |
| 13:22.52 | Cloudfoz | The message size is also 4 KiB, not 255 b |
| 13:22.57 | Sintacks | to get that shit out of normall messages |
| 13:23.13 | Cloudfoz | Isn't that what I just said |
| 13:23.36 | DJJeff | so what does RareFarm do? |
| 13:23.41 | Silvanas | intresting stuff, now any addon can go share its information world wide, |
| 13:23.45 | DJJeff | besides join and part this channel |
| 13:23.56 | Sintacks | not world wide, but regeion wide |
| 13:24.04 | nevcairiel | Silvanas: well its only whisper, so you can only target it at some specific person |
| 13:24.04 | Cloudfoz | World wide? Certainly not, since wow is not world wide |
| 13:24.21 | DJJeff | en_US en_GB haha |
| 13:24.42 | Cloudfoz | What about those? |
| 13:24.44 | DJJeff | needs more en_CA (mmmmm canada) |
| 13:25.15 | DJJeff | or en_MX (mexico) |
| 13:25.17 | Silvanas | well you could establish a network, think of each person as router, he has certain frends on certain other servers |
| 13:25.19 | Cloudfoz | shouldn't that be covered by en_gb |
| 13:25.31 | Silvanas | so you cna send messages all the way across players |
| 13:25.34 | Cloudfoz | Silvanas:... That's what oqueue does |
| 13:25.42 | nevcairiel | DJJeff: there is es_MX, they dont need two languages |
| 13:25.58 | DJJeff | I think the term is "Mesh Network" |
| 13:26.07 | Silvanas | well i never knew about oqueue until a few days ago probely becase i dont pvp :D |
| 13:26.08 | DJJeff | and oQueue does this |
| 13:26.39 | Cloudfoz | Because it certainly can't be used for pve |
| 13:26.52 | Silvanas | why not? |
| 13:26.59 | Cloudfoz | ... Sarcasm |
| 13:27.02 | DJJeff | I create 802.11bgn 2.4GHz WiFi Mesh Networks |
| 13:27.04 | DJJeff | mmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 13:27.46 | Silvanas | so stoopid addons such as gearscore can not track poeple across all servers ;D |
| 13:27.50 | DJJeff | damn it now I want to head out to tim hortons too hungry at 5:27am |
| 13:27.56 | Cloudfoz | Wat |
| 13:28.10 | Cloudfoz | What is it with you and gearscore |
| 13:28.10 | Stanzilla | the amount of retardness in this channel is pretty high right now |
| 13:28.11 | DJJeff | gearscore/playerscore was abandon |
| 13:28.22 | Silvanas | indeed, time to revive them \o/ |
| 13:28.38 | zenzio | gearscore was a scourge |
| 13:28.41 | DJJeff | plus gearscore does not mean skillscore |
| 13:28.53 | DJJeff | you could have low gear and do more dps and not stand in fire |
| 13:29.21 | Cloudfoz | Congrats for realising that |
| 13:29.21 | Silvanas | indeed gearscore is a bad example |
| 13:29.24 | DJJeff | for example I was just in a flex and people with higher gearscore died way before I did |
| 13:29.31 | Cloudfoz | Are we back in 2010? |
| 13:29.54 | Silvanas | but something awsome should be doable with the ability to send battle net messages |
| 13:30.31 | *** part/#wowuidev Stanzilla (~Stan@WoWUIDev/WowAce/Stanzilla) |
| 13:30.53 | Cloudfoz | Yes, for example: oQueue %-) |
| 13:31.18 | Silvanas | indeed, but it seems like a golden formula, waiting tobe abused |
| 13:31.21 | DJJeff | I love how people tunnel vision and just stare at their recount/skada meter |
| 13:31.29 | DJJeff | and still die from standing in crap |
| 13:31.51 | Cloudfoz | Do you watch many people play, to know what they're looking at? |
| 13:31.55 | DJJeff | that is the one addon I would enjoy breaking |
| 13:32.03 | Sintacks | Semlar hax'd meh |
| 13:32.04 | Sintacks | halop |
| 13:32.12 | Semlar | >_> |
| 13:32.21 | DJJeff | Cloudfoz are you new to the internet? |
| 13:32.40 | Sintacks | i wonder what would happen if i left tidyplates on ... |
| 13:32.50 | DJJeff | ill send you a welcome fruit basket when I get the chance |
| 13:32.51 | Semlar | tidyplates would display really badly |
| 13:32.56 | Semlar | because i'm scaling the nameplates |
| 13:32.59 | Sintacks | lol |
| 13:33.18 | Semlar | and it is definitely not going to account for the scale |
| 13:33.43 | Semlar | i really want to know how my plates perform with a lower fps computer |
| 13:33.49 | Cloudfoz | DJJeff: I like fruit, send away! |
| 13:33.53 | Semlar | because by all rights it should be terribly |
| 13:34.02 | Semlar | it uses at least a hundred times more cpu than tidyplates |
| 13:34.17 | DJJeff | name and address please Cloudfoz? oh and do not bother sending that in a pm |
| 13:34.26 | DJJeff | right here in the open is just fine |
| 13:34.39 | Cloudfoz | Shouldn't be hard to find out |
| 13:34.51 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:35.20 | DJJeff | oh that addon looks cool |
| 13:35.23 | DJJeff | which is it |
| 13:35.34 | Semlar | option house? |
| 13:35.37 | DJJeff | yes |
| 13:35.41 | Semlar | it's option house |
| 13:35.45 | DJJeff | is it on curse? |
| 13:35.55 | Semlar | it's on wowi and is super outdated |
| 13:36.06 | DJJeff | but still works |
| 13:36.15 | Semlar | for the most part |
| 13:36.23 | Semlar | it screws up the escape menu |
| 13:36.40 | DJJeff | I wonder if there is a more up2date related addon on curse |
| 13:36.42 | Sintacks | i can't even do cpu profiling incombat. i get like... a quarter of the fps i get |
| 13:36.44 | Semlar | there's probably alternatives |
| 13:36.47 | Sintacks | which is a lot. when you get 15 fps |
| 13:37.00 | DJJeff | I get like 200 fps nom nom nom nom |
| 13:37.16 | DJJeff | I remember getting 1-3 fps in dalaran back in WotLK |
| 13:37.26 | DJJeff | good times... good times.... |
| 13:37.39 | DJJeff | and wow is more about cpu than it is about graphics card |
| 13:38.38 | DJJeff | back in the day when you would get more fps on linux in wine |
| 13:38.50 | DJJeff | great times |
| 13:39.02 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:39.18 | Sintacks | i use brokercpu for addon usage |
| 13:39.53 | DJJeff | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/brokercpu |
| 13:39.59 | DJJeff | I have that one installed |
| 13:40.18 | DJJeff | hrmmmmmm |
| 13:40.23 | Semlar | alright option house was last updated in 2009 |
| 13:40.30 | DJJeff | I must have disabled the cpu part |
| 13:40.40 | Sintacks | with about 40 or so mobs in BRD, i go from about 43fps to 38 when i turn on nameplates |
| 13:40.57 | Sintacks | but it goes up and down |
| 13:41.05 | Maldivia | Leeeeeroy Jenkins? |
| 13:41.05 | Sintacks | so i'm losing from 5 to 9 fps |
| 13:41.07 | Semlar | compare it to your fps with the default nameplates though |
| 13:41.12 | Semlar | or tidyplates |
| 13:41.18 | Semlar | not just without nameplates |
| 13:41.25 | DJJeff | my fps drops like crazy in 25M+ raids |
| 13:41.26 | Sintacks | i'm going to |
| 13:41.38 | DJJeff | sometimes as low as 90 fps |
| 13:42.03 | Sintacks | i fucking hate you |
| 13:42.07 | Semlar | :( |
| 13:42.07 | Sintacks | i'd kill for 90 fps |
| 13:42.24 | Sintacks | i can tell iff i left recount on as soon as we pull |
| 13:42.40 | Sintacks | now i've gotta gather up all these mobs again. lol |
| 13:42.41 | Semlar | what good is recount if you can't have it on during combat |
| 13:43.17 | Semlar | actually recount has gotten pretty inefficient |
| 13:43.22 | Semlar | i might have to trim it down |
| 13:43.51 | Sintacks | with default plates, 42 on, 47 off |
| 13:43.53 | Semlar | i don't know why it's so bad because it's not like it really has any more core features than it did when it wasn't using 50mb of ram |
| 13:44.21 | Semlar | same fps drop? |
| 13:44.23 | Sintacks | now that's weird.. i'm getting more fps with them on than i got with them off with your plate addon enabled |
| 13:44.34 | Sintacks | a little bit less of a drop with default. but like. 1 or 2 fps |
| 13:44.35 | Semlar | my plates are just that good |
| 13:44.42 | Sintacks | now for tidy plates |
| 13:44.53 | Semlar | actually it's probably because they hide so much of the default nameplate |
| 13:45.10 | Semlar | and anchoring to the default nameplate is really that bad |
| 13:45.13 | Semlar | >_> |
| 13:45.28 | DJJeff | http://i.imgur.com/DritVr8.png |
| 13:45.34 | DJJeff | currently 138 fps |
| 13:45.43 | Sintacks | does your quest addon for name plates anchor to nameplate? |
| 13:45.54 | Semlar | i'm going to laugh if my addon gives you better performance than the default nameplates |
| 13:45.55 | DJJeff | Arkinvintory is a hog |
| 13:46.08 | Sintacks | cuz it doesn't move like tidyplates does. which makes it seem even more so that tidyplates is no longer anchoring to teh nameplate |
| 13:46.14 | DJJeff | should I switch out Ark for Bagnon? |
| 13:46.30 | Semlar | you have a billion fps what does it matter |
| 13:46.43 | Sintacks | most of that cpu time jeff is just the cpu used to get the addon set up. it's not going to use much more after that |
| 13:46.44 | Semlar | you should just use whatever you want |
| 13:46.46 | DJJeff | why is TomTom at 3% |
| 13:46.57 | DJJeff | oh |
| 13:47.14 | Sintacks | like i just said, most of that cpu time is what it takes to get set up. you need to reset the cpu usage after loading to really see how much addons are using |
| 13:47.28 | Semlar | sintacks if i really tried i could cut down the cpu usage to probably about a tenth |
| 13:47.50 | Semlar | not that it seems to make a difference |
| 13:48.50 | Sintacks | hmm. |
| 13:48.54 | DJJeff | even after reset |
| 13:48.55 | Sintacks | tidyplates is only losing about 3 fps |
| 13:49.01 | Sintacks | 3 to 6 |
| 13:49.02 | DJJeff | TomTom using 2.5% |
| 13:49.16 | DJJeff | probley because of the rare addon integrates with tomtom |
| 13:49.18 | Sintacks | but sometimes less |
| 13:49.25 | Sintacks | it's almost like tidyplates is stillusing cpu when they aren't shown |
| 13:49.35 | Sintacks | going from 42 on to 44 off |
| 13:49.40 | DJJeff | I have tidyplates installed |
| 13:50.18 | Sintacks | i don't think i'm in combat with as many for this test |
| 13:50.29 | Semlar | my guild leader, who is using my addon, said that switching to my nameplates resolved an issue he was having in shrine which could only be accounted to tidplates even when the nameplates were hidden |
| 13:51.12 | Sintacks | gonna go do the corehounds in MC |
| 13:51.21 | Semlar | but i can't say i've looked too closely at tidyplates |
| 13:51.31 | Sintacks | i know i can get all of them in combat each time unlike the room in BRD |
| 13:51.38 | Semlar | i've mostly been busy trying to see how much cpu i can waste with my own addon |
| 13:51.43 | Sintacks | also going to turn on cpu profiling |
| 13:51.44 | Sintacks | and crash |
| 13:52.12 | Semlar | most of the lua files are optional |
| 13:52.23 | Semlar | so if you want to turn off any of the features you can just tell the toc not to load them |
| 13:52.42 | Sintacks | BUT I WANT IN GAME CONFIG |
| 13:52.43 | Sintacks | coughs. |
| 13:52.45 | Semlar | NO |
| 13:52.46 | Sintacks | lol |
| 13:52.51 | Semlar | NO OPTIONS FOR YOU |
| 13:53.02 | Sintacks | cries |
| 13:53.06 | Semlar | YOU ARE GOING TO USE MY SETTINGS AND YOU ARE GOING TO LIKE IT |
| 13:53.15 | Sintacks | bullshit i am |
| 13:53.20 | Sintacks | eidts everything |
| 13:53.22 | Sintacks | can't spell |
| 13:53.24 | Sintacks | breaks addon |
| 13:53.25 | Semlar | GET OUT OF THERE! |
| 13:53.30 | Sintacks | bitches at author |
| 13:53.31 | Sintacks | FIX IT NOOB |
| 13:53.38 | Semlar | couldn't possibly make it worse than it already is |
| 13:54.19 | Semlar | if you want efficient, i think zork used my method to create one of the most efficient nameplate addons in existance |
| 13:54.23 | Sintacks | weakauras usion so much cpu when doing nothing |
| 13:55.38 | jleclanche | Semlar: [D] 8d12h29m We caught a Nidorino nicknamed AAAAAAAAAA**, because Democracy really isn't cut out for that sort of thing. |
| 13:55.53 | Semlar | it's a good name |
| 13:56.07 | Sintacks | k. tidyplates, all the corehounds. 75 fps |
| 13:56.28 | Sintacks | hide them, no change. maybe 1 or 2 fps. |
| 13:56.36 | Semlar | damn you got like 30 fps |
| 13:56.38 | Sintacks | kind of fighting between 76 and 77 |
| 13:56.46 | Sintacks | im' getting more in this raid for some reason. lol |
| 13:57.18 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:57.41 | Sintacks | QuestPlates is actually using a lot of cpu |
| 13:57.51 | Semlar | you got a problem with that |
| 13:58.31 | Semlar | i need to make a questplates module for my nameplates because scaling them pretty much makes questplates unusable |
| 13:58.43 | Sintacks | 96b58f39e3 |
| 13:58.45 | Sintacks | er |
| 13:58.46 | Sintacks | http://i.imgur.com/daPEt1d.png |
| 13:58.53 | Semlar | close |
| 13:59.10 | Sintacks | cpu stats reset before going into combat. |
| 13:59.45 | Semlar | it has to scan the mob's tooltips for quest information |
| 13:59.50 | Sintacks | no doing yours |
| 14:00.00 | Sintacks | now* |
| 14:00.19 | DJJeff | whopulled is on WoWI not curse |
| 14:00.31 | Sintacks | what, jeff? |
| 14:00.46 | DJJeff | #35 in that screenshot |
| 14:00.56 | DJJeff | WhoPulled addon is not on curse |
| 14:01.02 | *** join/#wowuidev Diesal_ (~quassel@pa49-183-29-60.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 14:01.10 | *** join/#wowuidev Hazal (~Mikkel@0x5e910d43.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 14:01.16 | Sintacks | okay? |
| 14:01.23 | DJJeff | I am not the only one who likes Shadowed Unit Frames |
| 14:01.25 | DJJeff | woooooooooooooooooot |
| 14:01.38 | Sintacks | what's the point of whopulled being on WoWI and not curse? |
| 14:01.50 | jleclanche | DJJeff: i use SUF too |
| 14:01.51 | Semlar | i actually made my own addon to track who entered combat first |
| 14:02.05 | Sintacks | i'm pretty sure the one i'm using is actually called WhoPulledIt |
| 14:02.14 | Semlar | it literally just scans the combat status of people in your group onupdate |
| 14:02.41 | Semlar | and the instant someone enters combat it outputs their name |
| 14:03.04 | Sintacks | with your plates i'm getting ~68 fps |
| 14:03.13 | Sintacks | maybe 72 |
| 14:03.16 | Sintacks | it jumps a lot heh |
| 14:03.32 | Sintacks | turn them off and i get 82 |
| 14:03.47 | Sintacks | 74 to 84 when i turn them off |
| 14:03.54 | Sintacks | so i'm losing about 10 fps at high fps with yours |
| 14:04.05 | Semlar | toggling my nameplates makes no noticable difference in my fps |
| 14:04.10 | Sintacks | but tidyplates is making me lose those fps permanantly |
| 14:04.29 | Sintacks | i get like 1 or 2 fps when i turn off plates with tiyplates |
| 14:04.41 | Semlar | like, i literally have no fps difference with them on or off |
| 14:04.57 | Semlar | actually it might be slightly higher with nameplates on |
| 14:05.02 | Sintacks | http://i.imgur.com/gOzl3wt.png |
| 14:05.14 | Sintacks | wow that's a lot of cpu |
| 14:05.22 | Semlar | no kidding |
| 14:05.30 | Semlar | i tried to warn you! |
| 14:05.31 | DJJeff | how are you doing that so quickly Sintacks |
| 14:05.37 | Sintacks | doing what? |
| 14:05.55 | Sintacks | imgur upload? |
| 14:06.08 | DJJeff | selecting just that area and uploading imgur |
| 14:06.11 | Sintacks | MyImgur (which is slightly bugged atm.. has to be relogged in a lot if you want to use your account) |
| 14:06.23 | Sintacks | but for this, i'm print screening and then pasting in paint so i can get what i actually want |
| 14:06.27 | Semlar | to be fair though my nameplates are much cooler than tidyplates |
| 14:06.34 | DJJeff | I use GIMP |
| 14:06.41 | DJJeff | GIMP > MS PAINT |
| 14:06.46 | Sintacks | i could do it in game |
| 14:07.10 | Sintacks | http://i.imgur.com/96YU4bK.jpg |
| 14:07.12 | Semlar | did you say mine weren't lagging behind the units like tidplates? |
| 14:07.23 | Sintacks | yeah. same way. about the same amount |
| 14:07.28 | Sintacks | now to try with default |
| 14:07.44 | Semlar | alt+print screen only takes a screenshot of your active window btw |
| 14:08.08 | Sintacks | i know. that was me taking a ffull thing with just two buttons. andi get to pick what i want |
| 14:08.14 | Sintacks | http://i.imgur.com/dH8vhbD.jpg |
| 14:08.17 | Sintacks | oh, yeah. that one. took right after |
| 14:08.30 | Sintacks | even shows the "Picure Sent" dialog |
| 14:08.31 | DJJeff | thats a semi nice ui |
| 14:08.46 | Sintacks | you're the first person that's ever not said my UI was shit and a cluster fuck |
| 14:09.00 | DJJeff | mine was great |
| 14:09.06 | DJJeff | till fucking LUI broke it |
| 14:09.13 | DJJeff | *shakes fist at LUI* |
| 14:09.19 | Sintacks | i have to reload to enable/disable addon and then i have to reload again to turn CPUprofiling back on |
| 14:09.25 | Semlar | your ui looks like it hasn't changed in 5 years though |
| 14:09.31 | Sintacks | it hasn't changed in a long time |
| 14:10.07 | Sintacks | http://i.imgur.com/JBC8AbX.jpg |
| 14:10.10 | Sintacks | oldest screenshot i have |
| 14:10.31 | *** join/#wowuidev Funkeh`` (~Funkeh`@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh) |
| 14:10.35 | Sintacks | 10/30/09 |
| 14:10.42 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:10.47 | Sintacks | well. 10/29/09 |
| 14:11.07 | Semlar | METEOR |
| 14:11.31 | Sintacks | http://i.imgur.com/MkBSIIu.jpg |
| 14:11.37 | Sintacks | first major ui overhall |
| 14:11.45 | Sintacks | 1/1/10 |
| 14:12.34 | DJJeff | http://i.imgur.com/iUXpDD9.jpg |
| 14:12.42 | *** join/#wowuidev alestane (~nevin@c-174-63-97-69.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 14:12.42 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v alestane] by ChanServ |
| 14:12.44 | DJJeff | I tried going for starcraft 2 look |
| 14:12.54 | Sintacks | http://i.imgur.com/3VcsYea.png |
| 14:12.55 | DJJeff | I spent hours getting it to look nice |
| 14:13.00 | Sintacks | lol. that addon was killed by blizzard. |
| 14:13.05 | DJJeff | installed LUI and everything went apeshit |
| 14:13.06 | Sintacks | i loved it before they added the button |
| 14:13.09 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:13.14 | Sintacks | though, gearscore looks out of place because of it |
| 14:14.02 | Sintacks | last screenshot before i switched from Xperl to ShadowedUF - http://i.imgur.com/34705BY.jpg |
| 14:14.34 | Sintacks | first screenshot with ShadowedUF using grid for raid frames - http://i.imgur.com/sBB4BJw.jpg |
| 14:14.59 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:15.07 | Sintacks | oh yeah. dates. last xper. 10/09/10 |
| 14:15.14 | Sintacks | first suf 3/2/11 |
| 14:15.52 | Sintacks | when i switched to shadowed, i completely rebuilt my UI. everything was reset, but i copied some things ideas and redid them |
| 14:16.02 | DJJeff | lol when gearscore actually had tooltips |
| 14:16.03 | DJJeff | lol |
| 14:16.04 | DJJeff | http://i.imgur.com/JrqBgCe.jpg |
| 14:16.09 | DJJeff | X_X |
| 14:16.23 | Sintacks | that giant bear ass, Semlar |
| 14:16.39 | Sintacks | gearscore (now playerscore) still has tooltips |
| 14:16.51 | DJJeff | really? |
| 14:16.56 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:17.08 | *** join/#wowuidev A-KO (~A-KO@unaffiliated/a-ko) |
| 14:17.22 | Semlar | and yeah i really did just outdamage everyone because i tanked in dps gear |
| 14:17.27 | Sintacks | oh yeah. supposed to be testing fps with default plates. |
| 14:18.45 | Sintacks | what the fuck |
| 14:18.52 | Sintacks | i'm getting more fus with plates shown than hidden with default |
| 14:18.55 | Sintacks | fps* |
| 14:19.12 | Semlar | i think this is a terrible experiment |
| 14:19.16 | Sintacks | 90 with. 80 without |
| 14:19.26 | Sintacks | that doesn't even logic. |
| 14:19.37 | Semlar | you might have something else messing with things |
| 14:20.04 | Sintacks | http://i.imgur.com/3L4y2Rp.png |
| 14:20.18 | DJJeff | when 5k dps was actually impressive |
| 14:20.19 | DJJeff | http://i.imgur.com/hj2qpon.jpg |
| 14:20.26 | DJJeff | also I miss that WIM SKIN :( |
| 14:20.34 | Sintacks | all them mages |
| 14:20.37 | Sintacks | I love that skin |
| 14:20.40 | Sintacks | taht's the skin i used for ever |
| 14:20.54 | Sintacks | i just switched from it recently to a modified minimalsst one |
| 14:20.56 | Sintacks | fuck spelling. srsly |
| 14:20.57 | DJJeff | mages op bro |
| 14:21.15 | Sintacks | that giant fucking rep bar |
| 14:21.33 | Sintacks | so why the hell am i getting more fps with default frames on than off |
| 14:21.35 | DJJeff | haha X_X |
| 14:21.48 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:22.24 | DJJeff | people are all showing off their 500k dps |
| 14:22.38 | Semlar | it's gotten a little out of hand |
| 14:22.40 | DJJeff | in MoP |
| 14:22.47 | Sintacks | my LK: http://i.imgur.com/4byfQDN.jpg |
| 14:23.40 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:24.02 | Sintacks | that a kill or a wipe? |
| 14:24.14 | Semlar | kill |
| 14:24.24 | Semlar | it's just before the other screenshot |
| 14:24.25 | Sintacks | http://i.imgur.com/6QYa0pU.png |
| 14:24.27 | Sintacks | i need to figure out how to fix that |
| 14:24.28 | DJJeff | LK would kill everyone |
| 14:24.31 | DJJeff | than res you |
| 14:24.35 | Sintacks | so that the readycheck frame can't be under the markbar |
| 14:24.43 | DJJeff | so many people got trolled because of it |
| 14:24.45 | Sintacks | i know that jeff, but he doesn't have percents, so ic an't tell if he's under 10 |
| 14:25.23 | DJJeff | I got raid and guild kicked when my guild was about to down 25H LK |
| 14:25.24 | mikma | ah, LK |
| 14:25.27 | mikma | the memories |
| 14:25.30 | DJJeff | I raged soooooooooooooooooooo hard |
| 14:25.54 | Sintacks | http://i.imgur.com/nuf1iha.png |
| 14:25.57 | Sintacks | that one also happened |
| 14:26.01 | DJJeff | I played a prank on my guild |
| 14:26.02 | Sintacks | stupid readycheck frame |
| 14:26.15 | DJJeff | as a mage put down like 10 portals on top of each other |
| 14:26.28 | DJJeff | our guild master clicked by mistake |
| 14:26.40 | DJJeff | we called it portal roulette |
| 14:26.45 | Sintacks | we trolled our GM once on madness of deathwing. |
| 14:26.51 | Sintacks | we all had deepholm pots. |
| 14:27.01 | Sintacks | popped them right before combat as she was counting down for pull |
| 14:27.10 | Sintacks | and she had no idea about it |
| 14:27.10 | jleclanche | Semlar: are you watching this? pokemon being named under democracy. |
| 14:27.10 | jleclanche | fun |
| 14:27.15 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:27.25 | *** join/#wowuidev Silvanas (5f61542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.97.84.45) |
| 14:27.46 | Semlar | the delay makes any coordination impossible |
| 14:27.49 | jleclanche | yeah |
| 14:27.52 | jleclanche | but its hilarious |
| 14:27.56 | jleclanche | and its gonna switch to anarchy |
| 14:28.30 | Semlar | it'll be named before the chat even catches up to people seeing the naming thing pop up |
| 14:28.39 | *** join/#wowuidev Lopeppeppy (~Lopeppepp@141.222.23.76) |
| 14:28.41 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Lopeppeppy] by ChanServ |
| 14:28.58 | Sintacks | that's hte biggest problem with democracy |
| 14:29.03 | Sintacks | the delay |
| 14:29.04 | Sintacks | http://i.imgur.com/83PTijf.jpg |
| 14:29.24 | Semlar | typical ace |
| 14:29.31 | Lopeppeppy | Ding! |
| 14:29.36 | zenzio | peppy! |
| 14:29.58 | Sintacks | lol. that wasn't really ace. it just got blamed for it. |
| 14:30.19 | Sintacks | that taint error was annoying. not sure if it's been fixed. i haven't seen it in a while. |
| 14:30.20 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:30.27 | Sintacks | but swatter has been not showing some errors |
| 14:30.28 | Fisker | Only one week left! |
| 14:30.29 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, dearest. |
| 14:30.41 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:30.50 | Sintacks | Message: ..\AddOns\Broker_CPU\Broker_CPU.lua line 312: |
| 14:30.51 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:30.54 | Sintacks | get that error a olot :( |
| 14:31.10 | Sintacks | lol tamed worgen |
| 14:31.15 | Semlar | >_> |
| 14:31.26 | Sintacks | DAT AMMO POUNCH |
| 14:31.32 | *** join/#wowuidev Stanzilla (~Stan@WoWUIDev/WowAce/Stanzilla) |
| 14:31.42 | Sintacks | is that an eyes of the beast |
| 14:31.43 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:31.48 | Semlar | no |
| 14:32.03 | Sintacks | i dont even know what that icon looked like heh |
| 14:32.19 | *** join/#wowuidev Ressy (~resa1983@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Ressy) |
| 14:33.05 | Semlar | eyes of the beast is the one next to aspect of the cheetah on the right |
| 14:33.42 | Semlar | looks like an eagle |
| 14:34.48 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:35.26 | *** join/#wowuidev Droolio (~drool@host217-42-220-6.range217-42.btcentralplus.com) |
| 14:35.47 | Sintacks | i have a bunch of screenshots that i don't even know why are screenshots |
| 14:36.11 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:36.18 | Sintacks | http://i.imgur.com/Gk3nyKY.jpg |
| 14:36.22 | Sintacks | no idea why that's a screenshot |
| 14:36.44 | Semlar | you mean you don't just randomly push print screen? |
| 14:36.49 | Sintacks | lol |
| 14:37.02 | Sintacks | i know more about things now. i should try to work on zomgbuffs again |
| 14:37.28 | Sintacks | i have three random seeming addons that have zomgbuffs up |
| 14:37.47 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:38.01 | Sintacks | lolz |
| 14:38.54 | Sintacks | dat unconfig'd UI: http://i.imgur.com/FsHJaFM.jpg |
| 14:39.21 | Semlar | hang on i think i can top that |
| 14:39.27 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:39.35 | Sintacks | ahahaha |
| 14:39.42 | DJJeff | lol someone afk botting on my server |
| 14:39.46 | DJJeff | this time its not me |
| 14:40.58 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:40.58 | Sintacks | first screenshot i took after COMPLETELY killing most of my UI so i have raidable frame rates for Lei Shen progression: http://i.imgur.com/3x4I01q.jpg |
| 14:42.25 | DJJeff | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPhySLLbpuc |
| 14:42.29 | DJJeff | pro afker |
| 14:42.33 | Silvanas | dahm semlar, seeying those talent trees makes me want to go back to those good days |
| 14:42.56 | Sintacks | water failed to load - http://i.imgur.com/dj0hLns.jpg |
| 14:43.50 | DJJeff | how do you stop youtube from playing the next video |
| 14:43.52 | DJJeff | grrrrrrrrrr |
| 14:44.04 | Sintacks | our i think second nazgrim kill: http://i.imgur.com/xa4CdSF.jpg |
| 14:45.32 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:45.57 | Sintacks | wipe or kill? |
| 14:46.01 | *** join/#wowuidev Amarande (~Amarande@24-151-100-63.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com) |
| 14:46.03 | Sintacks | i assume wipe |
| 14:46.06 | Sintacks | cuz 1% and not 0% |
| 14:46.08 | Semlar | kill |
| 14:46.24 | Semlar | very scary kill |
| 14:46.55 | Silvanas | my guild dies kills like that on a weekly bases |
| 14:47.02 | Amarande | 1% wipes are the saddest :( |
| 14:47.10 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:47.11 | Amarande | actually, no, 0% wipes are the saddest |
| 14:47.13 | Sintacks | http://i.imgur.com/c8AfBvk.jpg dem three huntards |
| 14:47.32 | Amarande | I doubt I shall forget, as long as I'm a gamer, the time we wiped against Blood Queen in ICC10 with only about 95k HP to go :( |
| 14:47.45 | Semlar | dat damage meter |
| 14:47.57 | Sintacks | only 251k? |
| 14:47.59 | Sintacks | baddie |
| 14:48.14 | Amarande | btw, speaking of 1% and 0% and such |
| 14:48.22 | Semlar | this would have been super early in the release of SoO |
| 14:48.26 | Sintacks | hmm. i do have a screenshot of this guy's addon bugging out for me with frames all over the place. http://i.imgur.com/alTB6rp.jpg |
| 14:48.29 | Semlar | i am definitely still in my ToT gear |
| 14:48.34 | Amarande | is it actually the case that damage can never directly reduce a mob below 1hp, or is that just an artifact of unit frame addons? |
| 14:48.52 | Sintacks | it's just how unithealth goes i think. |
| 14:48.53 | Semlar | you can tell by the crazy shaman headpiece |
| 14:48.57 | Sintacks | it hits 1 and then death |
| 14:49.02 | Sintacks | but i'm not sure |
| 14:49.06 | Amarande | From what I've seen, a mob never goes straight to 0 (unless it's a critter that only HAD 1hp to begin with, I think) |
| 14:49.28 | Amarande | It always goes to 1 and then there's a little delay (but enough to see watching the target frame) until it croaks |
| 14:49.55 | Amarande | I'm guessing that the WoW backend has some sort of oddity where "die" is a separate action from simply "be reduced to 0"? |
| 14:50.12 | Sintacks | i think something broke http://i.imgur.com/IKA4pU6.jpg |
| 14:50.22 | Amarande | reminds me of the datamining FAQ from Final Fantasy X-2 where half the mobs have "Die" as a mob action type heh |
| 14:50.24 | Semlar | it's fine |
| 14:50.38 | Sintacks | http://i.imgur.com/owYWKho.png |
| 14:50.52 | Sintacks | i don't remember what i said after that |
| 14:50.55 | Sintacks | but i think they left |
| 14:50.57 | Amarande | (which suggests to me that they actually "counterattack" an attack reducing their HP to 0 by ... dying. LOL) |
| 14:52.00 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:52.09 | Sintacks | wat |
| 14:52.15 | Semlar | wat |
| 14:52.46 | Semlar | i was making a super hexagon/keybind trainer |
| 14:52.59 | Amarande | blah. c'mon FedEx, have you NEVER HEARD OF GEOLOCATION? |
| 14:53.04 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:53.47 | *** join/#wowuidev elvador (~elvador@2a01:5c0:2:1ec1:1c8b:fb9:ceba:e898) |
| 14:53.55 | Amarande | I find it quite laughable that FedEx.com has no form of geolocation whatsoever, heh |
| 14:54.07 | Sintacks | i have a lot of random screenshots from my locks. |
| 14:54.24 | Sintacks | i think because print screen is right beside scroll lock. which was my keyclone bind to toggle do not pass |
| 14:54.26 | Amarande | usually these days sites have some idea as to where you are, if only from your IP address as registered by your ISP |
| 14:54.34 | Amarande | I have to tell FedEx I'm in the USA every time I go there. LOL |
| 14:55.04 | Amarande | Sintacks: "You shall not pa... fail to take a screenshot!" :) |
| 14:55.07 | DJJeff | inb4 using proxy, vpn, tor |
| 14:55.35 | Amarande | DJJeff: I think it's kind of understood that if you're using a proxy, VPN, TOR, &c., that you don't expect websites to properly be able to figure your location |
| 14:55.42 | Amarande | (hell, that's usually part of the point of using them :P) |
| 14:56.18 | Amarande | FedEx doesn't even try to figure your location though, it sends you to the "pick a country" page every time you visit their site :) |
| 14:56.33 | Amarande | Doesn't even try to save a cookie to remember like I think UPS does |
| 14:57.23 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:57.44 | Semlar | ICE BLOCK |
| 14:58.08 | Amarande | Semlar, how do you even pick out anything useful there without more addons :) |
| 14:58.18 | Semlar | i dunno |
| 14:58.20 | Sintacks | Amarande, wat |
| 14:58.20 | Amarande | it's like one giant green, blue, and purple dogpile LOL |
| 14:58.27 | Sintacks | (shall now pass) |
| 14:58.46 | Amarande | Sintacks: I was making a joke on "you shall not pass" |
| 14:58.53 | Sintacks | in what context |
| 14:59.12 | *** join/#wowuidev Dennls (~dennis@s55973038.adsl.online.nl) |
| 14:59.31 | Amarande | ehh, man |
| 14:59.41 | Sintacks | i missed something |
| 14:59.45 | Amarande | if I have to explain the joke in that level of detail ... :| |
| 14:59.51 | Sintacks | now i need to go move all these wow screenshots into a WoW folder |
| 14:59.59 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:00.02 | Sintacks | What shant i take a screenshot of |
| 15:00.03 | Sintacks | i'm lost |
| 15:00.30 | Amarande | but yeah, I'm basically imagining some sort of fail Gandalf standing there on the bridge and going "YOU SHALL NOT PA ..." *SCREENSHOT TAKEN* |
| 15:01.04 | Sintacks | blinks |
| 15:01.06 | Sintacks | Semlar, http://i.imgur.com/VEhp1na.jpg |
| 15:01.21 | Semlar | why you no do damage |
| 15:01.24 | Sintacks | LOL |
| 15:01.32 | Sintacks | i camped mid the whole fight. alliance never came. |
| 15:01.33 | Amarande | LOTR alternate take: Gandalf hits the screenshot button by mistake instead of the "steel self against Balrog" button, and the Fellowship gets reduced to library paste and Sauron reigns supreme :) |
| 15:01.40 | Sintacks | and i got HKs and honor from all 5 points |
| 15:01.41 | Semlar | you got more honor than me |
| 15:01.45 | Sintacks | they have since fixed this |
| 15:02.15 | Semlar | i did almost twice as much damage as anyone else in that battleground |
| 15:02.57 | Amarande | Hm, you know, do we have anything quite like the Balrog in WoW, come to think of it? :) |
| 15:03.03 | Amarande | actually hmm ... maybe Illidan to some degree, heh |
| 15:03.04 | Sintacks | http://i.imgur.com/CjR3Hy6.jpg |
| 15:03.06 | Sintacks | dat AVR |
| 15:03.37 | Amarande | alas poor AVR |
| 15:03.41 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:03.45 | Amarande | somehow the concept is okay for pro football, but not for WoW LOL |
| 15:03.51 | Amarande | ... then again, pro football is not really a very good game |
| 15:03.53 | Sintacks | I got Damage controll, after the BG was over. http://i.imgur.com/W4FSuQi.jpg |
| 15:03.59 | Amarande | so yeah, maybe that makes sense :) |
| 15:04.19 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure i got damage control in BRD |
| 15:04.31 | Sintacks | it's a PvP achimevent ... |
| 15:04.36 | Semlar | yeah.. |
| 15:04.38 | Sintacks | LOL. RankWatch in that screenshot |
| 15:04.45 | Sintacks | best addon |
| 15:04.53 | Sintacks | i had it. and someone elses was bitching at me. hahaha |
| 15:05.08 | Semlar | ranks |
| 15:05.18 | mikma | sintacks: busted, you used my addon |
| 15:05.37 | Sintacks | http://i.imgur.com/VhqEL3l.png |
| 15:05.46 | Sintacks | wtf is that Error: too many arguments. |
| 15:05.48 | Sintacks | what, mikma? |
| 15:05.56 | mikma | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13001-CurrencyTracker.html |
| 15:06.14 | Sintacks | i don't use that |
| 15:06.15 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:06.25 | mikma | sintacks: it's loaded there in your screenshot |
| 15:06.29 | Sintacks | which one? |
| 15:06.44 | mikma | 17:03 <Sintacks> I got Damage controll, after the BG was over. http://i.imgur.com/W4FSuQi.jpg |
| 15:06.55 | Sintacks | oh |
| 15:06.56 | Sintacks | hmm |
| 15:07.01 | Sintacks | i didn't know how to use it then |
| 15:07.02 | Sintacks | lol |
| 15:07.04 | Sintacks | cuz i never read |
| 15:07.13 | Sintacks | i didn't know it required tracking what you wanted to display |
| 15:07.14 | Semlar | it says currencytracker right there at the top |
| 15:07.17 | Sintacks | think i deleted it after |
| 15:07.34 | mikma | aaaaaand thats why you're dumb |
| 15:07.44 | Sintacks | MrCurrency ftw |
| 15:07.52 | DJJeff | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muxxRIKPsrs |
| 15:08.08 | DJJeff | how I troll the rare addon X_X |
| 15:08.22 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:08.29 | Sintacks | get some screencapture software |
| 15:09.02 | karl_w_w | http://i.4cdn.org/b/src/1392988224807.jpg well well well |
| 15:10.45 | Sintacks | i miss that shit, Semlar |
| 15:10.46 | Sintacks | lol |
| 15:10.58 | Sintacks | JEFF IS A FUCKING CANADIAN |
| 15:11.11 | mikma | semlar: yah. those were creative |
| 15:11.56 | DJJeff | you did not know that? |
| 15:12.02 | Sintacks | hahaha |
| 15:12.05 | Sintacks | nsfw - http://i.imgur.com/6WwR56k.png |
| 15:12.05 | DJJeff | X_X |
| 15:12.09 | Sintacks | i was a pervert once |
| 15:12.29 | DJJeff | is that a nude patch for wow? |
| 15:12.36 | Sintacks | it was, yes |
| 15:12.38 | mikma | wank patch |
| 15:12.40 | DJJeff | I have a "The Sims" nude patch |
| 15:12.56 | elvador | DJJeff: I'm very proud of you |
| 15:13.08 | DJJeff | OMG he's in this channel!!! |
| 15:13.18 | DJJeff | ** drum hit ** |
| 15:14.28 | elvador | yep, here i am - anything you wanna tell me? |
| 15:14.39 | DJJeff | not really |
| 15:14.41 | Semlar | add a level filter |
| 15:14.44 | Sintacks | hmm. MyImgur hasn't been uploading to my account. and the delete button isn't working |
| 15:14.51 | DJJeff | thats why I created that ticket |
| 15:15.16 | DJJeff | Sintacks have you tried puu.sh ? |
| 15:15.57 | elvador | semlar: you can't easily access someones level |
| 15:16.03 | Sintacks | i used to use puush |
| 15:16.05 | mikma | djjeff: i have a nudepatch for myself |
| 15:16.10 | Sintacks | but i hit my liimt all the time |
| 15:16.13 | Sintacks | and now there isn't one |
| 15:16.14 | Sintacks | but meh |
| 15:16.21 | Semlar | you can cache a who of the island, but it wouldn't be worth it anyway |
| 15:16.22 | Sintacks | i like imgur links more |
| 15:16.54 | Sintacks | rare addon just needs some checks for valid data |
| 15:17.03 | Sintacks | and some throttles on how often you can give data |
| 15:17.19 | DJJeff | Sintacks the data that I was paste IS valid |
| 15:17.29 | DJJeff | but the rate that I gave data was bad |
| 15:17.32 | Sintacks | maybe some complex shit to say "well... you were just at this rare, so there's no way in fucking hell you could get to this rare that fast" |
| 15:17.33 | elvador | then mr. jeff will change his 420.1337 (which is btw very cool) to 100 |
| 15:17.46 | Sintacks | the 420% health isn't valid data |
| 15:17.58 | DJJeff | oh correct its not |
| 15:18.34 | DJJeff | by the time the addon gets fixed timeless isle will be useless |
| 15:18.48 | karl_w_w | blizzard is racist: shadowfang keep full of black worgen, they work the kitchens and maintain the place, you get to the end and the place is run by an old white guy wearing cloth, and worgen backwards is negrow |
| 15:18.49 | DJJeff | also a quick fix people found was just to ignore the person sending fake data |
| 15:19.11 | elvador | it wouldn't fix anything. i'd rather have obiously fake data where users can actually see somethings wrong, instead of "could be real" - fake data |
| 15:19.19 | VIad | trolling the data ^^ |
| 15:19.29 | *** join/#wowuidev Mihau (~Mihau@76.164.170.2) |
| 15:19.30 | VIad | best method would be to have a census system |
| 15:19.35 | DJJeff | but putting a password on RCELVA breaks the addon from sharing data |
| 15:19.42 | VIad | nah |
| 15:19.50 | VIad | just got to have a little census going on |
| 15:20.04 | DJJeff | like require 2 people to share the same data |
| 15:20.09 | DJJeff | before the addon gets updated |
| 15:20.23 | elvador | then it would be useless on smaller severs |
| 15:20.25 | elvador | like yours |
| 15:20.26 | Sintacks | elvador, that's what i9'd do. what looks real but is fake |
| 15:20.29 | Silvanas | lol those old pictures are fun to watch :D |
| 15:20.50 | Sintacks | and yeah jeff, that's what i was going to suggest. but siad fuck it. |
| 15:21.05 | DJJeff | haha |
| 15:21.18 | DJJeff | still a good suggestion |
| 15:21.21 | Semlar | he wouldn't have to fix anything if you'd stop fucking with it because you're literally the only person who's doing it |
| 15:21.32 | DJJeff | this is true |
| 15:21.38 | VIad | it's impossible to make addon communication 100% secure |
| 15:21.43 | elvador | semlar: this |
| 15:21.44 | VIad | you can always mess up stuff |
| 15:21.57 | Stanzilla | it's like any community |
| 15:22.08 | VIad | you could only prevent the obvious trolls from entering the simple syntax manually :P |
| 15:22.09 | Stanzilla | relies on the fact that people don't be dicks |
| 15:22.15 | DJJeff | it's impossible to make any kind of communication 100% secure |
| 15:22.17 | Semlar | i'm actually pretty sure you could get reported to blizzard for this |
| 15:22.22 | DJJeff | when the NSA is around |
| 15:22.26 | Semlar | and that it counts as griefing |
| 15:22.27 | VIad | for example some time based salt to iron out the noob trolls |
| 15:22.30 | DJJeff | ** drum hit ** |
| 15:23.21 | DJJeff | I wonder if there is a way to check a players X and Y |
| 15:23.27 | Sintacks | i'm down to 24 fps Semlar |
| 15:23.36 | DJJeff | if I send data and my X and Y is not near the rare |
| 15:23.41 | DJJeff | count it as bad |
| 15:23.48 | Sintacks | http://puu.sh/74ECP.png |
| 15:23.49 | VIad | hard to check "near the rare" |
| 15:23.52 | Semlar | no, because the coordinates are supplied by you |
| 15:23.53 | VIad | unless targeted |
| 15:23.56 | VIad | hmm |
| 15:23.58 | VIad | maybe yes |
| 15:24.12 | VIad | but wouldn't work so well outside of group |
| 15:24.12 | Semlar | so you can just fake whatever data you want |
| 15:24.19 | elvador | the addon acctually sends your location if you have a rare targeted |
| 15:24.26 | Sintacks | i had like... 200 nameplates |
| 15:24.28 | Semlar | Sintacks: you appear to be under attack |
| 15:24.53 | Amarande | VIad: heh |
| 15:24.57 | Amarande | time based salt to iron out the noob trolls |
| 15:25.13 | Amarande | that made me think of Bilbo Baggins stalling for time till the dumb trolls forgot about sunrise and turned to stone :) |
| 15:25.17 | VIad | :p |
| 15:25.33 | VIad | well I tried for fun, to salt the start of the message with a digit based on the realm time |
| 15:25.43 | VIad | sadly no seconds, or I would make the salt change each 10 seconds |
| 15:25.53 | Amarande | Semlar: is griefing even concretely defined? |
| 15:25.54 | VIad | still enough to keep out those that manually enter the chat message |
| 15:25.59 | VIad | no Amarande |
| 15:26.11 | Amarande | there's plenty of things that you or I might logically consider griefing that are perfectly within the bounds of the game, alas |
| 15:26.17 | Semlar | i am pretty sure i've seen people get reprimanded for abusing other people through addons |
| 15:26.20 | VIad | http://wowpedia.org/Griefing |
| 15:26.34 | Amarande | like flying around on a 90 on a pvp server just to kill low levels who don't even have a fair chance against you in a fight |
| 15:26.47 | VIad | "Scamming, i.e. fooling others by pretending something that is actually not happening." |
| 15:26.52 | VIad | would that apply to addon traffic? |
| 15:27.08 | Amarande | hmmm |
| 15:27.10 | Amarande | that's a good question |
| 15:27.12 | Semlar | it applies to whatever they want it to apply to |
| 15:27.40 | Semlar | and basically if you're affecting a large number of people's gameplay quality, they don't appreciate that |
| 15:27.50 | Sintacks | lol |
| 15:27.58 | DJJeff | http://puu.sh/74EQ6.png |
| 15:28.07 | DJJeff | elvador like this? |
| 15:28.08 | Amarande | hell for that matter, feinting in PvP to convince a player that you're about to do the complete opposite of what you're actually going to do |
| 15:28.15 | Amarande | which would seem a perfectly logical thing to do in PvP |
| 15:28.22 | Amarande | could be considered "scamming" by that definition heh |
| 15:28.36 | elvador | djjeff: did you modify your script? |
| 15:28.39 | elvador | very impressive |
| 15:28.50 | DJJeff | modify how? |
| 15:29.00 | VIad | will blizz add more channels for addons in wod? |
| 15:29.05 | VIad | i.e. zone wide addon channel |
| 15:29.19 | mikma | oh i remember when i made wintergrasp timer addon and the other dude decided to do one also, but he "encoded" his addon messages xD ofc it took me 5 minutes to "decode" them and release my addon supporting his messages also. lolo |
| 15:29.40 | elvador | VIad: haven't read anything about it, but it would be useful |
| 15:29.41 | VIad | and what about addons making their own addon channel? |
| 15:29.42 | Amarande | is it thus griefing if, say, you stalk a near-level player (especially one who's yellow on a pve server for some reason), by questing near them, until you're sure that they're convinced you're not going to attack (if they even are aware that they can be attacked) |
| 15:29.48 | DJJeff | elvador: http://bpaste.net/show/181492/ |
| 15:29.50 | Amarande | and then you pounce upon them while they're unawares? |
| 15:29.53 | Amarande | or is that legitimate ganking? :) |
| 15:30.16 | Sintacks | ethat would be cool. if addons could make a custom channel that's just for addom comms. instead of having to make an actual custom channel |
| 15:30.23 | elvador | DJJeff: that's cool. |
| 15:30.52 | DJJeff | linux is very powerful |
| 15:30.57 | DJJeff | when used correctly |
| 15:31.02 | Semlar | he's being super sarcastic |
| 15:31.08 | Amarande | but yeah, any sort of competitive action where you stall until you're sure your opponent's convinced that there isn't any danger that you're going to do what you're actually going to do |
| 15:31.09 | DJJeff | I know he is |
| 15:31.21 | Amarande | could technially be "fooling others by pretending something that's actually not happening", I suppose, in the strictest sense :S |
| 15:31.25 | VIad | you could have created a lua script to unpack itself and send these messages, rather than using the addon window to paste in /5 commands :P |
| 15:31.30 | VIad | would make you even more linux geek |
| 15:31.34 | Semlar | quiet vlad |
| 15:31.36 | Amarande | addon tampering probably isn't intended to be fair, though :) |
| 15:32.25 | DJJeff | the fact that people need to use a rare timer on timeless isle already is not fair |
| 15:32.30 | DJJeff | to people without the addon |
| 15:32.39 | elvador | you srs? |
| 15:32.48 | mikma | that doesn't justify what you're doing |
| 15:33.02 | DJJeff | when I put a password on A52 Horde RCELVA |
| 15:33.04 | VIad | all it does is concolidate information |
| 15:33.07 | elvador | "the fact that people are using addons to improve their gameplay is not fair" |
| 15:33.11 | Amarande | ah well. it'll be no problem in a few months anyways |
| 15:33.16 | DJJeff | general chat actually started to communicate with one annother |
| 15:33.35 | DJJeff | what a great concept that is |
| 15:33.36 | mikma | this case reminded me of that one addon that was restricting itself from working in one exact server, horde side |
| 15:33.36 | Amarande | elvador: "the fact that people are deliberately feeding false information to addons" is what we're discussing atm, actually |
| 15:33.57 | mikma | cause the addon coder was playing alliance on that server and he didn't want the horde folks to use that addon against him |
| 15:34.07 | VIad | :D |
| 15:34.07 | VIad | lol |
| 15:34.08 | Semlar | Sintacks: the framerate hit probably wasn't as much from the nameplates as the combat though |
| 15:34.13 | Amarande | feints and stalling to conceal PvP intentions are part of competitive play, we're not quite sure poisoning people's addons is quite the same :P |
| 15:34.40 | Amarande | however, what I was noting is that in the strictest interpretation of the "scamming" clause of griefing, someone could try to argue both qualify |
| 15:35.11 | VIad | let's add our characters to some sort of database to be used by addons to fake information, so that we can easily do stuff like, masking our unit information from unit frames because we have some background code running doing our dirty business, confusing the users :D |
| 15:35.26 | VIad | imagine pvp |
| 15:35.26 | Amarande | I guess rogues would be absolute scammers then |
| 15:35.43 | Amarande | after all, rogues are all about convincing you that there's nobody around, then suddenly out of the blue "would you like to release to the graveyard?" |
| 15:36.05 | elvador | VIad, i'm in! |
| 15:36.26 | VIad | when you trade gold with someone we make our gold seem like more than we actually put on trade :p |
| 15:36.27 | Amarande | DJJeff: but yeah, this will be of little problem in a few months |
| 15:36.43 | Amarande | because once 6.0.1 hits I presume Pandaria will be made CRZ |
| 15:36.43 | VIad | make our auctions appear cheaper than they are |
| 15:36.56 | Silvanas | rogues are all about pvp, they might still do good dmg in pve. but thier are made for pvp |
| 15:37.02 | Amarande | and rare timers are basically worthless in CRZ zones, unless you stay logged in and in the same zone the entire time |
| 15:37.13 | VIad | I dislike crz |
| 15:37.25 | VIad | I often see a guy, and I never see him again after :P |
| 15:37.27 | Amarande | I like some of the ideas of CRZ, some are a tad annoying, though |
| 15:37.44 | VIad | I prefer the new realm connecting thingy |
| 15:37.57 | VIad | at least you know you will always be able to see the guys from those realms i |
| 15:37.57 | Amarande | like ... did they ever fix the "you're riding along happily with someone in their RAF rocket/dragon form/other two seater and suddenly you're dismounted and SPLAT" zone crossing bug? |
| 15:38.00 | A-KO | They're realm mergers :P |
| 15:38.06 | VIad | they semi-fixed it |
| 15:38.07 | A-KO | yes Amarande |
| 15:38.13 | VIad | they made you fall off then jump back on :P |
| 15:38.15 | elvador | Amarande, blizzard said that they liked the timeless isle / isle of thunder concept. so it is likely that something like this will come again |
| 15:38.17 | VIad | though it CAN fail |
| 15:38.29 | VIad | my last messages were for Amarande |
| 15:38.34 | A-KO | vlad: The current realm things are realm mergers. They're literally moving stuff from database to database. |
| 15:38.44 | A-KO | I'VE SEEN IT! |
| 15:38.46 | Amarande | and did they ever fix the "you're flying along happily across Northrend, check the Wintergrasp battle timer, see it's over an hour till battle, you try to fly over WG and suddenly SPLAT because of CRZ desync" bug? |
| 15:38.48 | A-KO | IV'E SEEN THE LIST OF MERGERS! |
| 15:38.51 | A-KO | though no photographic memory |
| 15:38.54 | A-KO | so you don't get info :P |
| 15:39.08 | VIad | it's better than crz :) |
| 15:39.16 | VIad | crz just randomly adds and removes people it seems |
| 15:39.40 | VIad | as said it's impossible to gank back someone that ganked you as usually they phase into some other crz stage somewhere else |
| 15:39.45 | Amarande | (from what I can figure, this one is caused by the realm you've been shunted to for Dragonblight, Sholazar, etc. being in battle, even though yours is not, and the "can't fly in WG during battle" rule is triggered before you get relocated back to your home realm when zoning ...) |
| 15:40.05 | Amarande | and yeah, what VIad says |
| 15:40.10 | VIad | Amarande: can fix it as the dismount thing is probably a spell cast by some global entity |
| 15:40.18 | VIad | make it only affect people from that same realm |
| 15:40.19 | Amarande | it makes me even more apprehensive about the Cata levels on a PvP server :| |
| 15:40.33 | Amarande | I wonder if I should spec kegslinger by 80 and tank my way from 80-85 ... |
| 15:41.02 | Amarande | basic idea is one I've noted before. at 82, you're worth honour to 90s |
| 15:41.19 | VIad | not sure if honor matters at all in the griefing department |
| 15:41.22 | Amarande | therefore, it would seem that by far one of the most efficient and cruel ways to farm honour would be to take a trip down to Uldum with your 90 and start slaughtering leveling players |
| 15:41.31 | VIad | :D |
| 15:41.39 | Amarande | thus making it a real crapshoot whether leveling by questing in that range is even viable :| |
| 15:41.40 | VIad | but I often see people kill low levels without reward too |
| 15:41.48 | VIad | blood coin farmers kill anyone usually |
| 15:41.53 | VIad | regardless of the debuff |
| 15:42.20 | VIad | best way to fix the pvp issue is to simply make it like the connected realms everyone so you always play with the same people :) it's good |
| 15:42.26 | Amarande | now, back in the day, if you tried that (assuming there was any real pvp action on your realm at all, since most realms are so lopsided that the dominant faction practically never sees anyone at all from the other faction heh) |
| 15:42.33 | VIad | I feel crz was one step forward, now they made another step forward ;) |
| 15:42.51 | Amarande | eventually you'd piss off someone who would get their max level friend(s) to come out and deal with you |
| 15:43.02 | Amarande | nowadays, though, you probably just get away with murder |
| 15:43.11 | Amarande | because not only do they have to have a 90 or a friend with a 90 |
| 15:43.16 | Amarande | that 90 has to be able to beat yours, of course |
| 15:43.26 | VIad | I remember when you had to travel for 20 minutes to get to the zone to help your friend, because of vanilla and no-flying :P |
| 15:43.35 | Amarande | AND, they also have to basically get lucky as well ... because they have to hope to get the same CRZ instance that you're in :S |
| 15:43.52 | Amarande | there's a fair chance they go and get their 90 and their buddy and ... oops wrong CRZ instantiation, you're not there! LOL |
| 15:44.11 | Semlar | i'll just get sintacks to come on his heroic geared rogue |
| 15:44.23 | VIad | Amarande: halt |
| 15:44.34 | VIad | we are spewing out crap out our mouths now |
| 15:44.37 | VIad | no one else is talking |
| 15:44.40 | VIad | let's take a break |
| 15:45.10 | Amarande | VIad: presumably most of the time there's more than just the one CRZ nexus in a given zone, and you get semi-randomly assigned to one of the existing mergers when you zone in? |
| 15:45.31 | VIad | they balance out the CRZ based on population |
| 15:45.59 | Amarande | that's what I mean, if there's more than one such merger at the time, it requires a considerable amount of luck to even end up in the same one as the ganker |
| 15:46.12 | Amarande | and if you get put in a different one instead ... well ganker just laughs at victim because the cavalry ain't coming :) |
| 15:46.36 | VIad | we will see less of this if they keep merging realms as they do now |
| 15:46.40 | VIad | it's the better solution |
| 15:47.06 | Semlar | but they use crz to reduce the number of people in a zone if it's too high |
| 15:47.08 | VIad | already zones are more full with people |
| 15:47.24 | Amarande | but yeah I'm not sure how many 90's go 82-farming anyway |
| 15:47.39 | Amarande | and it will be a non issue again come WoD, because we're going back to ten level expansions anyway and that eliminates the basic reason why this can happen :) |
| 15:47.41 | VIad | they will hopefully add more logic to it to try keep people that interracted somehow, together in the crz |
| 15:47.55 | VIad | i.e. get ganked and you two are now for a while locked to the same crz "phase" |
| 15:47.55 | DJJeff | Sintacks |
| 15:48.09 | VIad | trade, whisper, group, e.g. would be good if it helped keep the people and you in the same crz |
| 15:48.14 | Amarande | VIad: however, get ganked, now you're stuck in the same CRZ phase as the ganker |
| 15:48.31 | VIad | invite your friend to a group and he is in your crz phase |
| 15:48.38 | Amarande | but does it do anything about the fact that the chance of getting your friends to help you is chillingly small, because the cavalry are likely to come and end up in a different CRZ? |
| 15:48.40 | Amarande | ah, yeah, that's true |
| 15:48.52 | Amarande | OTOH, it also means you can never go get your OWN 90, you always have to depend on someone else to come and save the day :S |
| 15:49.18 | VIad | things will only get better,hopefully :P |
| 15:49.25 | VIad | I feel that things get better |
| 15:49.41 | Amarande | previously having a powerful top level would be enough, I presume, especially since it's more likely to be the less experienced 90s that are going to resort to such cheapness :) |
| 15:49.52 | Amarande | if you're a more experienced pvper, you'll probably go for "real" pvp :) |
| 15:50.21 | Amarande | well, things get better instantly with WoD |
| 15:50.34 | Amarande | since we'll be going to 10 level expansions, that means 91-100 zones will all be one-realm-only (as now with Pandaria) |
| 15:50.49 | Amarande | and 90 will be grey to 100, so there's no actual reward for ganking them |
| 15:51.18 | Amarande | (tl;dr ... Blizz should never have tried that 5 level experiment at all :P) |
| 15:51.40 | Semlar | cataclysm.. |
| 15:52.18 | Amarande | Semlar: well, the basic root of the problem I've just described is just one of many such artifacts, really |
| 15:52.37 | Amarande | i.e., that when they tried 5 level expansions, it made previous expansion content still be green even at max level |
| 15:52.47 | Amarande | despite being as trivial as a grey, due to the power ramp being that of 10 "regular" levels |
| 15:52.58 | VIad | again Amarande, I feel your issue isn't so easy to fix |
| 15:53.07 | Amarande | and when they did two 5 level expansions in a row, the top level stuff from *TWO* expansions ago was still green to max levels NOW |
| 15:53.18 | Amarande | er ... hmm ... not quite |
| 15:53.20 | VIad | it doesn't matter if you are gray or green to a ganker, you will get ganked |
| 15:53.32 | VIad | that's the rule of ganking, the reason is irrelevant most of the times |
| 15:53.32 | Amarande | but yeah, we're talking previous expansion stuff is still green to max levels anyway |
| 15:54.47 | *** join/#wowuidev stolenlegacy (~stolenleg@unaffiliated/stolenlegacy) |
| 15:55.36 | Amarande | Yeah, you really can't make the perfect MMO, can you :) |
| 15:56.39 | Dagmar | Yes you can |
| 15:57.06 | VIad | it's called life |
| 15:57.25 | VIad | so much bullshit rules laws cause and effects shit you can ever want |
| 15:59.11 | Sintacks | i forgot how to make a fucking clickable link in html |
| 15:59.13 | Sintacks | ._. |
| 15:59.50 | Sintacks | oh. <a href= |
| 15:59.51 | VIad | <a link="your address" href="javascript:alert('Sintacks is a sucker, lol!')"></a> |
| 16:01.24 | DJJeff | Sintacks what Masque skin are you using for your bartender? |
| 16:01.33 | DJJeff | just Squared? |
| 16:02.17 | Amarande | VIad, I think if you made life into an MMO, you might have trouble with subscription rates |
| 16:02.20 | Amarande | although, I guess that doesn't matter |
| 16:02.29 | Amarande | because life is probably more likely one of those free to play games |
| 16:02.31 | VIad | Amarande: the rate is living or death |
| 16:02.38 | Dagmar | Subscription rates have been easy to manage for a long timme |
| 16:02.39 | VIad | do shit or die |
| 16:02.39 | Amarande | probably pretty high on the P2W scale too :| |
| 16:03.05 | Dagmar | "You've got a pretty nice house/family here. It would be a shame if sommething were to happen to it/them." |
| 16:03.20 | Amarande | but yeah, you know what I mean. if you created an MMO that mimicked life as meticulously as possible |
| 16:03.38 | Sintacks | so, since MyImgur is kind of broken. the delete button isn't working. |
| 16:03.39 | Dagmar | Let's not. |
| 16:03.42 | Amarande | I think you might have a player retention rate problem, even aside the "dammit this sucks in all the crappy ways that real life does" reviews |
| 16:03.48 | Sintacks | but the logging still works. so it has logs that include all the delete urls |
| 16:03.57 | Dagmar | I don't want to see Keanu Reevs flyin around unless i'm allowed to as well |
| 16:04.06 | Sintacks | so i formated the log to dispaly the images for everything in the log, and a clickable delete link. |
| 16:04.07 | Sintacks | weee |
| 16:04.11 | Sintacks | that was a lot of find/replace |
| 16:04.11 | DJJeff | pokes Sintacks |
| 16:04.17 | Sintacks | dies |
| 16:04.22 | DJJeff | oh come on |
| 16:04.27 | Sintacks | uh |
| 16:04.28 | DJJeff | it was not "that" big |
| 16:04.33 | Sintacks | caith |
| 16:04.43 | Sintacks | with the icon pack uh... |
| 16:05.38 | pompy | ohh internet http://imgur.com/gF7KiFj |
| 16:05.38 | Sintacks | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info19844-CleanIcons-Thin.html |
| 16:05.40 | Sintacks | i think it's that one |
| 16:05.48 | DJJeff | http://i.imgur.com/Jq2uC7P.jpg |
| 16:06.02 | DJJeff | I do not seem to have caith as an option :( |
| 16:06.17 | Sintacks | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8869-MasqueCaith.html |
| 16:06.26 | Semlar | i should really hide the time remaining for casts if it's over 60 seconds |
| 16:06.28 | DJJeff | oh its not on curse |
| 16:06.42 | Sintacks | lolol pompy |
| 16:06.49 | Sintacks | all the best stuff isn't on curse |
| 16:07.04 | Semlar | yeah it's in my addons folder |
| 16:07.12 | Sintacks | ^ |
| 16:07.17 | Sintacks | or mine, when i get him to give it to me |
| 16:07.34 | Ackis | alright anyone able to teach me wtf ajax is, the w3 schools tutorial hasn't helped too much for me |
| 16:07.49 | Semlar | asyncronus javascript and xml! |
| 16:08.15 | DJJeff | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/masque-clean-icons |
| 16:08.17 | Ackis | yeah but wtf does that mean |
| 16:08.17 | DJJeff | this one? |
| 16:08.34 | Semlar | it just means you can use javascript to load data into your page on the fly from external sources |
| 16:08.58 | Ackis | how is this code: $.ajax({ url: "foo.com", cache: true }).done(function() { createModualDialog(); }) an ajax function that sets a session cookie or something like that |
| 16:09.00 | Semlar | so say you have a chat box or something that you want to update the text in |
| 16:09.01 | Sintacks | http://i.imgur.com/YK8pctR.jpg |
| 16:09.12 | Semlar | you can just periodically request new datas |
| 16:09.29 | Sintacks | no DJJeff. that's a masque skin to go with cleanicons pack |
| 16:09.35 | Sintacks | i don't use it |
| 16:09.36 | DJJeff | oh |
| 16:09.48 | DJJeff | nice panarama |
| 16:10.06 | Sintacks | that was a great morning |
| 16:10.27 | Sintacks | wasn't even the worst morning recently. |
| 16:10.29 | Ackis | Semlar: would an ajax call be appropriate if I wanted to do something after a form was submitted but before the user was taken to the next page? |
| 16:10.36 | Sintacks | another day earlier morning than that, the roads were worse |
| 16:10.37 | pompy | Ackis: createModualDialog() ,,, usercreated function or language defined function? bc i see spelling mistake! |
| 16:10.57 | Ackis | pompy: user created function and yes there are a bunch of spelling mistakes in their code |
| 16:11.03 | Ackis | and they didn't comment worth shit either |
| 16:11.07 | Semlar | ajax is for when you need to make an http request basically |
| 16:11.08 | DJJeff | rareshare addon is popular now |
| 16:11.09 | pompy | :\ |
| 16:11.10 | Sintacks | http://i.imgur.com/3L0cf6h.png |
| 16:11.41 | Semlar | so it would depend on what you need to do after the form is submitted |
| 16:11.50 | Semlar | i mean i guess you could submit the form through ajax |
| 16:12.17 | DJJeff | hrmmmmmm wowinterface not loading? |
| 16:12.37 | DJJeff | Transferring data from s.cdn.wowinterface.com... |
| 16:12.40 | Ackis | Semlar: I'm using this in a SharePoint environment (aka hell)... what I want to do is submit form 1 into list 1 and then use values from httpparamter and form 1 to submit something to form 2 in the background, but it has to be after form 1 has been submitted |
| 16:12.57 | Ackis | Semlar: basically I have no idea wtf I'm doing when it comes to this web development stuff :D |
| 16:13.05 | Dagmar | You probably have to use Access++2014 or something |
| 16:13.07 | Dagmar | Maybe ASp |
| 16:13.17 | Dagmar | with some dot-NET overlays. |
| 16:13.48 | Semlar | yeah you could do what you want with ajax |
| 16:13.48 | Ackis | that sounds like they'd have to give me a "real" development environment opposed to the bullshit I have now |
| 16:13.49 | Fisker | vb gui |
| 16:13.49 | Dagmar | Ackis: THe easy answer is "I'll tell you what. Have the Windows admins just scrape my MediaWiki install." |
| 16:13.58 | Fisker | vb gui interface |
| 16:14.26 | Semlar | you would do one call to submit the form and wait for a response then do another call to submit your second form |
| 16:14.26 | Dagmar | Powashell! |
| 16:14.34 | Ackis | Dagmar: not allowed powershell |
| 16:14.42 | Dagmar | Okay there's hope for your office yet then |
| 16:14.52 | Fisker | uh |
| 16:14.58 | Fisker | Powershell is best shell eu Dagmar |
| 16:14.59 | Fisker | pls |
| 16:14.59 | Semlar | it would prooooobably be better to do that on the backend though |
| 16:15.04 | Dagmar | It must have only happened recently if it couldn't stop the Sharepoint infection |
| 16:15.19 | Semlar | if you need to make sure that both things actually happen |
| 16:16.33 | Semlar | because the javascript is all client side and it could submit form 1 and then not do form 2 if something unexpected happens |
| 16:16.52 | Ackis | Semlar: so technically I could use open(method,url,async) with the url having a couple http params |
| 16:17.27 | Semlar | i'm gonna be honest, it's been a long time since i've done any web development |
| 16:17.37 | DJJeff | CLEAN_ICONS_THIN = 100 MB unpacked X_X |
| 16:17.38 | Sintacks | .. i hate it when people do addons like this |
| 16:17.39 | Sintacks | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info22764-BloodisMine.html |
| 16:17.43 | Sintacks | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info22765-WeHideinShadows.html |
| 16:17.52 | Sintacks | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info22762-StrengthReturns.html |
| 16:17.56 | Sintacks | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info22761-ArcanePower.html |
| 16:17.56 | mikma | oh lord |
| 16:17.57 | Semlar | you can make a request to a url with whatever parameters you want though |
| 16:17.57 | mikma | stop |
| 16:18.01 | mikma | stop stop stooooooop |
| 16:18.02 | Sintacks | lol |
| 16:18.16 | Sintacks | that's how i feel |
| 16:18.17 | mikma | never do that again |
| 16:18.28 | Sintacks | spams mikma 100 urls |
| 16:18.38 | mikma | sintacks: "I am also working on a couple other projects at the moment, so keep your eyes peeled." |
| 16:19.00 | Semlar | sounds painful |
| 16:19.04 | Sintacks | this person has 17 addons |
| 16:19.07 | Sintacks | all of them do one thing |
| 16:19.13 | Sintacks | it's the same thing. |
| 16:19.18 | Sintacks | but a different spell and sound file |
| 16:19.21 | Semlar | i should start doing this |
| 16:19.23 | Sintacks | WHY |
| 16:19.24 | mikma | BAN HIS ASS! |
| 16:19.40 | Sintacks | what, mikma? re also working on other things |
| 16:19.48 | mikma | injects banmode in cairenn |
| 16:19.58 | Sintacks | oh |
| 16:20.00 | Sintacks | their desc |
| 16:20.07 | mikma | sintacks: yes :) |
| 16:20.28 | Sintacks | that guy that made all of the "GetBannered" "get something else... whatever... bullshit is just as bad |
| 16:20.36 | Sintacks | imagine if RSA had an addon for every class |
| 16:20.44 | Sintacks | or DBM had an addon for every boss |
| 16:20.52 | Semlar | or every raid |
| 16:20.56 | Semlar | wait |
| 16:20.59 | Sintacks | that'd be pretty bad too |
| 16:21.03 | mikma | too bad wow is still expensive to play :P |
| 16:21.11 | Sintacks | i mean an actual addon uploaded to both curse and wowi |
| 16:21.15 | mikma | would have been nice to install and try it again |
| 16:21.15 | Sintacks | for every boss or raid |
| 16:21.28 | mikma | but i don't even know where my authenticator is anyway |
| 16:23.05 | Sintacks | oh yeah... the Get Over Here! suite. |
| 16:23.07 | karl_w_w | I pity a nation that finds this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYofm5d5Xdw controversial |
| 16:23.07 | DJJeff | Sintacks would you mind sharing you masque and bartender settings file? |
| 16:23.09 | Sintacks | has an addon for every class |
| 16:23.10 | Sintacks | WHY |
| 16:23.27 | Sintacks | wat |
| 16:23.35 | Sintacks | it's just default caith |
| 16:24.12 | Sintacks | with button grid enabled |
| 16:24.32 | Sintacks | and backdrop settings disabled |
| 16:24.42 | VIad | karl_w_w: waaa? |
| 16:25.01 | Sintacks | you mean the US, karl_w_w? |
| 16:25.22 | Sintacks | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info22749-AutomaticLuaIndenter.html |
| 16:25.23 | Sintacks | wat |
| 16:25.31 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 16:25.42 | VIad | tell me why there is a problem with the commercial |
| 16:25.52 | Sintacks | there isn't |
| 16:25.58 | Sintacks | people are fucking racist assholes. |
| 16:26.05 | VIad | but karl said it's controversial |
| 16:26.20 | Semlar | it's an interracial couple!!! |
| 16:26.24 | Sintacks | i want an lua auto indenter for notepad++ that works like weakauras' |
| 16:26.25 | VIad | whaa |
| 16:26.27 | VIad | aaah |
| 16:26.29 | VIad | I get it |
| 16:26.39 | VIad | lol and this cereal ad is so controversial? |
| 16:26.54 | Semlar | according to who |
| 16:27.00 | VIad | karl |
| 16:27.04 | karl_w_w | the internet told me |
| 16:27.09 | Semlar | was this on the news or something |
| 16:27.48 | Sintacks | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info22725-UISetupHelper.html |
| 16:27.51 | Sintacks | that's an interesting take on it |
| 16:27.54 | Sintacks | that's actually cool |
| 16:27.58 | Sintacks | better than what i use |
| 16:28.04 | karl_w_w | i just heard about it, it was a superbowl ad |
| 16:28.08 | Sintacks | cuz it makes it so there is just a solid color behind everything |
| 16:28.32 | Semlar | Sintacks: i just throw everything and leave it where it lands |
| 16:28.53 | Sintacks | lol |
| 16:28.58 | Sintacks | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12330-LineemUP.html |
| 16:29.01 | Sintacks | i use that |
| 16:29.06 | Sintacks | but the other one looks better |
| 16:29.13 | Sintacks | could prob use both. lolol |
| 16:29.29 | Sintacks | WY AM I DOWNLOADING MORE ADDONS |
| 16:29.46 | Semlar | because you need more semlarplates |
| 16:30.06 | Sintacks | http://puu.sh/74I0l.png |
| 16:30.12 | Sintacks | I <3 that for installing addons |
| 16:30.12 | DJJeff | curse tells me I have 140 addons installed |
| 16:30.21 | Sintacks | mine says |
| 16:30.25 | Sintacks | 302 |
| 16:30.33 | Sintacks | but i have quite a few that aren't on curse |
| 16:30.35 | DJJeff | YIKES! |
| 16:30.39 | Semlar | this is why you don't have any frames |
| 16:30.43 | Sintacks | lol |
| 16:30.55 | Sintacks | i have quite a lot of addons that aren't even turned on |
| 16:30.59 | Sintacks | and i have no idea why i have them |
| 16:31.23 | DJJeff | http://puu.sh/74I3Q.png |
| 16:31.25 | DJJeff | X_X |
| 16:31.43 | Gethe | i go through an prune addons about once a month for those i dont use anymore |
| 16:31.54 | Sintacks | oh yeah Jeff... |
| 16:32.09 | Sintacks | http://puu.sh/74I7D.png |
| 16:32.35 | DJJeff | X_X |
| 16:32.36 | VIad | mine is 140 mb |
| 16:32.40 | Amarande | I usually only bother to disable addons when it's obvious that something is acting up |
| 16:32.50 | DJJeff | I wonder whats in that emulators folder Sintacks |
| 16:32.51 | VIad | 265 folders but many are plugins, pitbull, grid, dbm, e.g. |
| 16:32.55 | Sintacks | http://puu.sh/74Iai.png |
| 16:33.14 | Amarande | mind you, I have a lot of silicon to throw at WoW, and will have more still in a few days |
| 16:33.17 | Sintacks | did you notice my folder count, Viad? |
| 16:33.22 | Sintacks | 3700 |
| 16:33.26 | VIad | yes |
| 16:33.26 | Amarande | so system resource usage is a don't care to me LOL |
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| 16:36.28 | Semlar | i'm trying to decide if i should do anything with this http://i.imgur.com/ho2LxdQ.gif |
| 16:37.30 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:37.35 | Sintacks | Emulators\Sega\Fusion365 | Emulators\Sega\roms\pagemaster & sonic the hedgehog & Wiz 'n' Liz |
| 16:37.36 | Sintacks | Emulators\Sony\PlayStation\ePSXe190\ | Emulators\Sony\PlayStation\ISOs\Bomberman World & FFVII Disc 1 2 3 & Future Cop - L.A.P.D. & I.Q. - Intelligent Quce |
| 16:37.36 | Sintacks | Emulators\Sony\PlayStation 2\PCSX2 1.2.1 | Emulators\Sony\PlayStation 2\ISOs\Final Fantasy X |
| 16:37.51 | karl_w_w | Sintacks? |
| 16:37.58 | Sintacks | karl_w_w? |
| 16:38.05 | Sintacks | yes, Semlar |
| 16:38.09 | Gethe | looks cool |
| 16:38.13 | Sintacks | make it work without your name plate addon. i think some people would like it |
| 16:38.15 | karl_w_w | why are you pasting things |
| 16:38.20 | Sintacks | depending on what triggers it showing up |
| 16:38.25 | DJJeff | Sintacks you are bad at not using pastebin |
| 16:38.28 | Sintacks | like, if you make it do it when you target something |
| 16:38.33 | Sintacks | wy would i paste 3 lines |
| 16:40.27 | Semlar | pastes sintacks |
| 16:40.39 | Sintacks | crashes Semlar |
| 16:40.51 | Semlar | :( |
| 16:40.59 | Sintacks | out of memory error |
| 16:44.56 | DJJeff | is that sun viewport art at the bottom? |
| 16:45.06 | Sintacks | on my ui? |
| 16:45.08 | DJJeff | http://puu.sh/74ECP.png |
| 16:45.23 | Sintacks | it's btex art placed with kgpanels |
| 16:45.30 | Sintacks | and then the lines are just lines placed with kgpanels |
| 16:45.48 | Sintacks | there are 12 panels that make my artwork |
| 16:46.04 | Semlar | you're under attack by an angry hedgehog |
| 16:46.06 | Sintacks | one on both sides, 4 for the main bottom (cuz they all come in 4 pieces) and one each for each line |
| 16:46.57 | Semlar | i had made these threat indicators as sort of a joke but left them in |
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| 16:47.29 | Semlar | one of the tanks using it was complaining that it didn't have any threat indicator |
| 16:47.45 | Sintacks | hhaha |
| 16:48.02 | Semlar | so i made it impossible to ignore |
| 16:50.53 | Semlar | i really need to add settings but i'm too lazy |
| 16:51.12 | Semlar | i'd have to write an interface for it |
| 16:51.21 | Sintacks | only if you release it |
| 16:51.47 | Semlar | good point |
| 16:52.11 | Semlar | even then i could just tell people they're wrong for wanting something different |
| 16:52.31 | Lopeppeppy | Everyone is wrong on the internet. |
| 16:54.06 | Semlar | i sort of want to make another skin for this |
| 16:54.23 | Semlar | like a really minimal version |
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| 16:55.03 | Fisker | I'm not Lopeppeppy |
| 16:55.11 | Fisker | insert commas as needed |
| 16:55.49 | Semlar | none for me, thanks |
| 16:56.00 | Sintacks | Fisker, you hi |
| 16:56.53 | Amarande | Semlar: well the threat level is always red, unless you're sitting tight in Orgrimmar :) |
| 16:58.19 | Lopeppeppy | neeeeeeds commas stat. |
| 16:58.49 | Semlar | ,,,,,,,,,, |
| 17:00.36 | Lopeppeppy | Oooooh. *purr* |
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| 17:01.49 | Semlar | ; |
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| 17:06.00 | Lopeppeppy | No! |
| 17:06.06 | Lopeppeppy | hides behind alestane. |
| 17:06.12 | Semlar | >_> |
| 17:06.17 | Sintacks | gives Lopeppeppy moar commas |
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| 17:06.30 | Sintacks | ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,'s Lopeppeppy |
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| 17:07.53 | Lopeppeppy | shivers. |
| 17:08.11 | Fisker | Lopeppeppies |
| 17:08.12 | Sintacks | USA vs Canada wooooo |
| 17:09.01 | solocommand | wtb beta D: |
| 17:10.29 | Amarande | So, has Putin had to be put on blood pressure drugs yet after the Russian hockey performance? |
| 17:12.18 | ccox | USA vs. Canada - Canada wins, then spends 30 minutes apologizing to the US team |
| 17:13.03 | Amarande | ccox: that's more like an England thing |
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| 17:13.50 | Amarande | And as for Russia ... well I guess Putin got put in, if you're familiar with old school card game terminology LOL |
| 17:15.58 | phelps | did blizzard ever patch that hack that let you do dynamic macros ? |
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| 17:16.11 | phelps | someone here created a PoC for it |
| 17:16.32 | Amarande | hm, was that what purrmetheus or whatever was supposed to do, with the "one button rotation" thing? LOL |
| 17:16.53 | phelps | yeah |
| 17:16.55 | Amarande | I'm guessing that's the kind of thing that gets broken quickly though :) |
| 17:17.04 | Cruciformer | Hi All. Anyone know of any changes that would affect a loot addon in 5.4.7? I have reports from my users of Lua errors and it was working fine in 5.4.2. |
| 17:17.32 | Cruciformer | (they oh-so-usefully dont provide the stack trace so I dont know what the actual error is) |
| 17:18.36 | Cruciformer | Alternatively, I remember there used to be someone that posted diffs in the UI code between each release. If anyone knows there I can find diffs between 5.4.2 and 5.4.7 that would help too. |
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| 17:20.31 | solocommand | Cruciformer: kd3 was who posted diffs. Dunno about changes though, I've been off that list for a while. |
| 17:20.58 | Cruciformer | solocommand: I dont suppose you have a URL do you? |
| 17:21.01 | pompy | Sintacks: the stakes have never been so high!! http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/olympics/bilboard-raises-canada-hockey-stakes-loser-bieber-article-1.1621954 |
| 17:22.05 | solocommand | Cruciformer: Nope, sorry. They were sent in an email/googledoc when I got them |
| 17:23.59 | breser | Primer_: What's wrong with it? |
| 17:24.43 | Cruciformer | According to http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser all the files are listed as "Same". I wonder if that means same since previous version (I am guessing it does but who knows) |
| 17:24.43 | DJJeff | stupid twitchplayspokemon crap is breaking twitch for the rest of us |
| 17:25.47 | Cruciformer | I think I need to wait for the backtraces. Tahnsk for the replies solocommand |
| 17:26.08 | Cruciformer | Thanks too :) |
| 17:26.35 | Ermad | ChanServ: a lot of thngs the used to return just "Name" now return "Name-Realm", could be causing issues |
| 17:26.39 | Ermad | Cruciformer* |
| 17:27.18 | solocommand | np |
| 17:27.21 | Cruciformer | Ermad: yeah thats causing other problems. I am having to put in calls to Ambiguate() all over the place. |
| 17:27.31 | Amarande | Ermad: what makes me shake my head is why the hell that hasn't been made universal long ago |
| 17:27.43 | Ackis | he's a picture of a 20 pound cat and a 100 gram guinea pig touching noses: http://www.reddit.com/r/guineapigs/comments/1yi8c0/kitty_catpiggie_love_sorry_for_the_quality/ (shitty quality sorry) |
| 17:27.43 | Amarande | you know how fun it is to try to whisper cross-realm players sometimes? heh |
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| 17:28.25 | Cruciformer | Ermad: Do you know if that Name-realm return ... does it have spaces in the relam name removed or do I need to make a utility function that always gsub's the spaces out? |
| 17:28.38 | Cruciformer | Amarande: Pratt ftw :) |
| 17:29.27 | Ermad | I dont think it has spaces. to get the realm suffix for the current realm can do select(2, UnitFullName('player')) |
| 17:30.26 | Cruciformer | Or getrealmName() :) |
| 17:30.36 | Cruciformer | GetRealmName() even |
| 17:31.22 | Ermad | well, GetRealmName() will have spaces/aposthrophes which might not be in the Realm name suffix, UnitFullName will have it stripped already |
| 17:31.42 | Cruciformer | Ohhh nifty. Thank you. |
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| 17:33.17 | Silvanas | hi guys |
| 17:33.43 | Silvanas | i jsut had an addon idea that will likely go vrry incely with the crowd, however its also realy retarded :D |
| 17:34.48 | Silvanas | player ratings, the ability to post comments and rate players on thier skill, attitude enz. |
| 17:35.37 | Cruciformer | I see that UnitName() returns nil for the realm if the target unit is in the same realm as the player. I suspect a "CanonicalUserName()" function that always adds the realm would be my friend. |
| 17:37.25 | Silvanas | yeh that hole idea of merging realm has caused a lot of issues, sometimes yo ug et the realm name when you dont want, and sometimes you dont get it when you do want it |
| 17:39.15 | Ermad | I just made my code have no assumptions on if the return value is in "Name" or "Name-Realm" format, and convert everything into "Name-Realm" |
| 17:42.10 | Silvanas | i am converting my code further to use GUID's :D |
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| 17:42.52 | Cruciformer | Ermad: yeah that's what I am busy doing now. |
| 17:43.03 | Jamash | wakka wakka wakka wakka |
| 17:57.31 | Silvanas | man i love hardstyle, great music |
| 17:57.43 | Ressy | lmao: https://twitter.com/ThankASoldier/status/436905958673874945 |
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| 18:01.52 | Guest42879 | http://www.27bslash6.com/p2p2.html |
| 18:08.51 | Arrowmaster | are you ever going to change your name back |
| 18:10.04 | Guest42879 | probably |
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| 18:13.34 | Guest42879 | omg this is the greatest invention ever http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reyt3uiQqI8 |
| 18:13.56 | Silvanas | i though i was the greatest invention ever> |
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| 18:17.04 | Kraps | Guest42879: are those real emails he sent |
| 18:17.14 | Guest42879 | I assume so |
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| 18:24.07 | TC-Work | http://tinyurl.com/mtamj33 |
| 18:24.18 | TC-Work | nvm, someone already linked it |
| 18:24.28 | Ressy | You broke him, you keep him |
| 18:24.43 | TC-Work | I think he was already broken. |
| 18:28.11 | Fisker | I won Lopeppeppy |
| 18:28.31 | DJJeff | elvador: did you come on here to check if I was on here? |
| 18:28.46 | Amarande | wow, my luck is running good this season |
| 18:29.00 | Amarande | bought a box of valentine heart candy a few days ago, when it went on discount |
| 18:29.27 | Amarande | even ended up with the candies getting all mussed up in arrangement so the "map" is no longer valid |
| 18:29.36 | Lopeppeppy | What is your prize, Fisker? |
| 18:29.42 | Amarande | ... I've still managed now to go through 19 out of the 23 chocolates without getting stuck with the coconut filled one :) |
| 18:29.43 | Fisker | i don't know |
| 18:29.56 | Fisker | Bragging rights mostly I guess |
| 18:30.07 | Lopeppeppy | Bragging rights can sometimes be sold for cash, you're rich! |
| 18:30.09 | Fisker | not working overtime at home and getting my actual wage wasn't one of them |
| 18:30.11 | Fisker | :( |
| 18:41.19 | Guest42879 | TC-Work: lol |
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| 18:47.38 | Primer_ | breser: often when I join an in-progress bg, the raid frames don't fill up |
| 18:48.46 | Primer | breser: it can take as long as several minutes for all the frames to fill. When the it happens, some times it's just my unit in the "raid" group, other times it's 3 or 4 |
| 18:48.53 | Primer | but the bg is definitely full |
| 18:50.07 | Primer | And it doesn't matter which bg |
| 18:50.42 | Silvanas | lua is such an awsome language, so flex able |
| 18:51.14 | breser | Primer: That new with the patch or ongoing? |
| 18:51.23 | Primer | it's been a problem for a while |
| 18:51.32 | breser | Primer: Well this is the first I've heard of it. |
| 18:51.39 | breser | Primer: I can't fix what I don't know about. |
| 18:52.06 | Primer | breser: I hear you. I was hoping someone else here would confirm first. |
| 18:52.07 | Gethe | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn1OeGG9idI Dreanor build has an AddOns button on main menu. ACP built in? |
| 18:52.11 | Amarande | Silvanas: no integer type is kind of a drag though, in the greater picture |
| 18:52.29 | Primer | breser: Can you give me any tips on what I can do better diagnose it? |
| 18:52.43 | Primer | breser: usually when this happens I just end up reloading ui |
| 18:53.13 | breser | Primer: Well in general Blizzard's code is reponsible for creating frames. |
| 18:53.35 | Primer | there's no lua error |
| 18:53.39 | breser | Primer: So the first question is, do the unit frames exist and we just haven't populated them with the frames that make up the visible elements.... |
| 18:53.51 | breser | Primer: Or is Blizzard's code not make the frames for us for some reason. |
| 18:53.54 | Primer | perhaps toggling blizz's raid frames in the PB config? |
| 18:54.23 | breser | Primer: Blizzard's raid frames don't use the APIs I have to use, so what works for them has no indiication of what works for me. |
| 18:54.43 | breser | Primer: I'd guess there's probably a taint bug either in my code or in Blizzard's code. |
| 18:55.02 | Primer | No lua errors come up ever when this happens |
| 18:55.23 | Primer | I see this on a daily basis, btw. Yes, I do bg a lot |
| 18:56.25 | breser | Primer: I guess I'd try running with taint logging turned on and see what turns up. Just be warned, you can't always believe what the taint log tells you. |
| 18:56.41 | Primer | right |
| 19:03.49 | Primer | I've actually been running with the taint log on this whole time |
| 19:06.19 | Primer | 2/21 01:11:30.046 An action was blocked in combat because of taint from PitBull4 - SecureHandlersUpdateFrame:SetAttribute() |
| 19:06.58 | Primer | and a very long trace |
| 19:08.22 | kd3 | blah |
| 19:09.28 | Primer | Let's see if a pastebin will accept 12k of taint log |
| 19:09.32 | Primer | First one didn't... |
| 19:10.43 | Primer | my bad, it was 12m |
| 19:11.47 | Primer | breser: http://ceregatti.org/taint.log |
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| 19:13.06 | Humbedooh | blames Ackis |
| 19:13.19 | Primer | agrees |
| 19:13.20 | breser | Primer: Try without any other addon loaded other than PB4. |
| 19:13.21 | Ackis | ? |
| 19:13.26 | breser | Primer: I know that's a lot to ask. |
| 19:13.30 | Humbedooh | Ackis: you're to blame for world hunger D: |
| 19:13.36 | Humbedooh | and kittens being sad D: |
| 19:13.39 | Ackis | aww |
| 19:13.45 | Ackis | feed the sad kittens to hungry people? |
| 19:13.49 | Humbedooh | and hermit crabs feeling lonely! |
| 19:13.53 | breser | Ackis: His taint log is blaming your recipe list addon, but I don't think it's legit. |
| 19:14.16 | Ackis | breser: it's probably because ARL loads the libraries up first |
| 19:14.20 | Humbedooh | it's often false positives yeah |
| 19:14.25 | Humbedooh | but blaming Ackis feels good |
| 19:14.33 | breser | Ackis: *nod* |
| 19:14.34 | Humbedooh | or Torhal |
| 19:15.00 | Ackis | my addon got flagged as a virus once |
| 19:15.03 | Ackis | those were good times |
| 19:15.06 | Primer | Ackis: ARL shows up every day in taint |
| 19:15.07 | Primer | breser: I do have a lot of addons... |
| 19:15.23 | Humbedooh | rewrites Torhal in Go and makes him distributed |
| 19:15.43 | breser | I have seen these reported before. |
| 19:15.44 | breser | An action was blocked in combat because of taint from PitBull4 - SecureHandlersUpdateFrame:SetAttribute() |
| 19:15.49 | Lopeppeppy | Why, why can I not convince sheeple that sending a copy of your signature to 4K people is a stupid idea? Would they let 4K strangers take a photo of their drivers license? |
| 19:16.10 | Ackis | Primer: It could be any Ace addon that's causing it, if you disable ARL and play for a while those taint errors will be assigned to another addon |
| 19:16.11 | breser | But I've looked into it in the past and couldn't find any place where we'd be causing that taint, doesn't meant I'm not just I couldn't figure it out. |
| 19:16.23 | Silvanas | lua is so flexable, but is there a way to implement an interface for an object? |
| 19:16.40 | breser | Silvanas: objects are implemented by using tables. |
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| 19:16.47 | Primer | Ackis: I know |
| 19:16.54 | breser | Silvanas: Just assign functions to table entries. |
| 19:17.13 | breser | Silvanas: Then use the table like you'd use an object in most other languages. |
| 19:17.23 | Primer | flexible* |
| 19:17.41 | Silvanas | yeh i know, but there isnt a way to require a table to implement certain functions? |
| 19:17.54 | breser | Silvanas: Nope you're on your own. |
| 19:18.02 | Silvanas | yeh though so :D |
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| 19:24.59 | Fisker | btw Lopeppeppy |
| 19:25.03 | Fisker | I got a job for you |
| 19:25.07 | Fisker | someone wants their signature changed |
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| 19:25.58 | Lopeppeppy | I can do that, Fisker. A few hammer cracks to the fingers and their signature will never be the same. |
| 19:26.09 | Fisker | oh |
| 19:26.12 | Fisker | I mean like mail signature |
| 19:26.36 | Fisker | and I'm like "Uh, I just put them on your computers, why should I do the design, my design would just be plaintext" |
| 19:26.48 | Primer | Is taint.log written to in real time? |
| 19:27.26 | Primer | I'm going to guess that it is |
| 19:27.35 | Primer | and try to tail -f it while playing |
| 19:28.03 | Silvanas | is there a single call function to split the first 3 charters of a string and keep the rest, as in "hello" -> "hel", "lo" |
| 19:28.24 | Silvanas | gues i got to use str:sub twice, seems like a waste of speed to me :D |
| 19:32.03 | Lopeppeppy | our policy is "if you can figure it out, do it. Otherwise, you get nothing." |
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| 19:32.03 | Silvanas | yeh sorry i am a performace freak, and i dont like the lua core to go over the string twice to do basicly the same split, while it should be able todo it in one go |
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