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| 00:24.11 | bluspacecow | lol a game called Demontard the Angry Keeper |
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| 00:31.26 | sintAcks | "-- NOT USED!!!! Coming in the Full version of LootCouncil" |
| 00:31.30 | sintAcks | lol... so coming never. |
| 00:31.43 | Semlar | never! |
| 00:39.36 | sintAcks | now i'm confused... the same function is in here twice. |
| 00:39.58 | sintAcks | one of them has an extra if to keep it from sending an addon message to yourself, the other doesn't |
| 00:40.26 | Sintacks | so which function is going to go off when called ... |
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| 00:41.13 | Semlar | the one above the function that's calling it |
| 00:41.49 | Sintacks | but both functions are in the same spot. on top of each other. |
| 00:42.15 | Sintacks | http://pastebin.com/Y7fcjy1D |
| 00:42.29 | Sintacks | lines 1698 to 1728 |
| 00:44.02 | Semlar | the lower function |
| 00:44.21 | Sintacks | k. |
| 00:44.41 | Semlar | it will overwrite the one above it |
| 00:45.28 | Semlar | unless i've missed something you should be safe to comment out the first function |
| 00:45.42 | Sintacks | that's what i figured. |
| 00:46.31 | Amarande | heh, lootcouncils |
| 00:46.42 | Amarande | haven't mechanics changes practically made those and DKP almost obsolete now? |
| 00:47.13 | Semlar | loot is still distributed |
| 00:47.29 | Semlar | so if people relied on those systems before i don't see how much as changed |
| 00:47.30 | Sintacks | not really, Amarande. |
| 00:47.45 | Amarande | Semlar: I'm more thinking that loot councils and DKP are only useful when it is regularly necessary to actually make a decision about distribution |
| 00:48.05 | Amarande | which is ... kinda rare nowadays, given the smaller raid sizes and the fact that WoW gear is a lot more specialised now (in terms of what class/spec it's for) |
| 00:48.08 | Sintacks | the only thing the chagnes to loot have done for Loot Councils is fucked them over because of TF/WF gear drops being completely fucking random. |
| 00:48.51 | Amarande | as in, it used to be you had 25-40 folks in your group, and it was a lot more complicated of a decision as to who a given piece of loot ought to go to |
| 00:48.54 | Semlar | you still have multiple people after the same pieces |
| 00:49.08 | Amarande | nowadays, 10 man seems to be the prevalent mode (maybe flex with a few extra DPS) |
| 00:49.28 | Amarande | and a given piece of loot is designed to only be wanted by a rather small set of specs |
| 00:49.47 | Semlar | for one thing until recently my 10 man had two hunters in it |
| 00:49.56 | Amarande | e.g., strength dps 2H? that's for an arms warrior, unholy DK, or ret pally, and that's about it :) |
| 00:50.14 | Semlar | not that we were ever very competitive about loot |
| 00:50.17 | Amarande | and quite often you're likely to have zero or one of those in group |
| 00:50.39 | Amarande | also it needs to be a meaningful upgrade for both people, too, even if there are two or more |
| 00:51.01 | Amarande | but the days where you had like 5-10 people in the raid all wanting the same item drop are basically gone forever |
| 00:51.08 | Gnarfoz | so meta http://www.twitch.tv/xkeeper_ |
| 00:51.13 | Amarande | except maybe in some 25's guilds |
| 00:51.23 | Gnarfoz | "Twitch Plays Pokemon" Plays Tetris |
| 00:51.33 | Semlar | yes, but if you have two people who want the same piece then you have to decide who gets it |
| 00:51.37 | Amarande | and it's a lot more clear-cut now whether item X is actually an upgrade for player Y, too |
| 00:51.58 | Amarande | Might as well just roll the dice |
| 00:52.38 | Amarande | hmm, wait, are strength dps 2H'ers still for fury warriors too? |
| 00:52.44 | Amarande | or is the current meta that dual 1H is better now? |
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| 01:10.42 | Semlar | torhal it's been 20 seconds since i uploaded this file why hasn't it been approved yet |
| 01:11.24 | Semlar | actually according to this it's been 23 hours |
| 01:11.34 | Neffi | patience is a virtue |
| 01:11.42 | Semlar | time just flies by |
| 01:14.38 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:15.35 | Neffi | it could be |
| 01:15.49 | Semlar | that's the default raid browser :l |
| 01:17.09 | Semlar | how was i supposed to know they didn't align their things properly! |
| 01:24.00 | Torhal | It was 12 minutes, Semlar, and I was sorely tempted to deny it with the reason "Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball!" |
| 01:24.10 | Semlar | ;_; |
| 01:25.16 | Semlar | but think about the poor people who have to endure my buggy addons |
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| 01:29.42 | TGiFallen | hello everyone |
| 01:30.09 | Semlar | hi |
| 01:31.30 | TGiFallen | does anyone know of an addon taht searches through all items across all your toons and helps you organize them. I.E it tells you to send x item to y |
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| 01:33.59 | bluspacecow | https://twitter.com/Rygarius/status/436312025497862144 |
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| 02:25.28 | kd3|hate`net | bah. the 64-bit client's still acting up in wine |
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| 02:35.17 | bluspacecow | it's still whining ? |
| 02:35.22 | bluspacecow | *ducks* |
| 02:36.36 | cogwheel | *cows* |
| 02:44.23 | bluspacecow | Moooooooooooooooooooo |
| 02:45.11 | Neffi | chases bluspacecow with a fork and knife. |
| 02:45.15 | Neffi | give me your burger meat |
| 02:45.25 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 02:45.29 | bluspacecow | I is not for eating |
| 02:45.38 | bluspacecow | http://arbys.com/articles/how-to-get-sauce-in-a-bottle-right-now |
| 02:46.05 | Neffi | why would I go to Arby's? |
| 02:46.18 | Neffi | I like good food |
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| 02:46.47 | bluspacecow | i dunno |
| 02:46.53 | bluspacecow | dunno wat a Arby is |
| 02:50.05 | Dagmar | Thin-sliced roast beef sandwiches |
| 02:51.59 | fewyn | arbys |
| 02:52.02 | fewyn | i haven't had that |
| 02:52.03 | fewyn | in like |
| 02:52.05 | fewyn | forever |
| 02:52.41 | Neffi | I thought they went bankrupt |
| 02:52.56 | fewyn | did they? |
| 02:53.09 | Neffi | Well their website is still up, so I dunno |
| 02:56.58 | bluspacecow | oh ? |
| 02:57.01 | bluspacecow | with cheese and gravy ? |
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| 03:45.27 | Arrowmaster | why cant US news outlets ever show stuff like this http://i.imgur.com/ONotkiL.jpg |
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| 03:51.50 | Thunder_Child | Take your pick. People don't care, or people dont' care. |
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| 04:07.02 | Sintacks | now crashed twice within half an hour :| |
| 04:08.14 | Thunder_Child | National Organization for Women? |
| 04:10.53 | A-KO | http://i.imgur.com/wLVsyBP.jpg |
| 04:10.56 | A-KO | so that happened |
| 04:13.19 | Neffi | what's `that`? |
| 04:13.40 | A-KO | My new car |
| 04:13.45 | A-KO | Fusion Hybrid |
| 04:14.24 | kd3 | purty |
| 04:14.35 | Neffi | nice |
| 04:14.43 | Neffi | s'it fast? |
| 04:14.50 | kd3 | it's a hybrid. no |
| 04:15.21 | A-KO | it's decent. |
| 04:15.25 | A-KO | It still has a gas engine in it :P |
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| 04:20.55 | Thunder_Child | I'd get a hybrid if any were fast enough in my price range. |
| 04:27.25 | Arrowmaster | i still want a tesla if they release a lower end model |
| 04:27.31 | A-KO | yeah |
| 04:27.35 | A-KO | A coworker has one |
| 04:27.36 | A-KO | they're nice |
| 04:27.38 | A-KO | Model S |
| 04:28.14 | Arrowmaster | im hoping my 02 saturn lasts until tesla released this rumored Model E |
| 04:29.13 | Arrowmaster | what type of hybrid is yours? the type where its all electric with a gas generator or the other type? |
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| 04:30.55 | A-KO | other type. It switches between gas/battery dynamically depending on what you're doing. For quick acceleration it moves to gas, for cruising it moves to battery. It will use a low amount of gas to charge the battery and averages about 35-40mpg doing that. If it's all battery the mpg shoots up to the max on the meter (60) and holds there. It's entirely possible to cruise on a highway at 60mph |
| 04:30.55 | A-KO | using entirely battery. |
| 04:31.00 | A-KO | It switches the gas engine off and on |
| 04:31.07 | A-KO | regenerative braking |
| 04:31.57 | Neffi | fancy |
| 04:32.18 | Arrowmaster | thats basically the prius style |
| 04:32.22 | A-KO | yeah |
| 04:32.24 | A-KO | more or less |
| 04:32.34 | A-KO | beats older prius in numbers, newer prius gets slightly better city though |
| 04:32.37 | A-KO | rated @ 51 |
| 04:32.39 | A-KO | for city |
| 04:32.41 | Arrowmaster | some more higher end luxery cars are doing the generator model |
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| 04:38.09 | *** topic/#wowuidev is http://pastebin.com || 5.4.x ToC: 50400 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || This channel is logged, via purl || UI changes to battle.net chat in 5.4.7: http://bit.ly/1biaLRQ || Happy cheap chocolate day! |
| 04:38.14 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: presumably that is somewhat dependent on the location of ones house. |
| 04:39.06 | Arrowmaster | yeah might not be a good investment if you live in the shadow of mt fuji |
| 04:42.12 | Arrowmaster | i just took some meds that will cause drowsiness so im out for the night |
| 04:42.55 | DJJeff | is there a way to unset a channel password without leaving it? |
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| 04:44.56 | Guest42879 | um |
| 04:44.58 | Guest42879 | in wow or irc? |
| 04:45.11 | DJJeff | haha.... just thought about that |
| 04:45.14 | DJJeff | in wow |
| 04:46.00 | DJJeff | not sure you can unset a channel password in irc by leaving the channel |
| 04:46.18 | DJJeff | well depends if the channel is registered with chanserv or not |
| 04:49.26 | DJJeff | Guest42879: did you fall asleep? |
| 04:49.42 | Guest42879 | oh |
| 04:49.53 | Guest42879 | not really, I'm just not sure I know the answer |
| 04:49.56 | Guest42879 | try setting the pw to nothing? |
| 04:51.14 | DJJeff | worth a shot |
| 04:52.02 | Thunder_Child | You will have to excuse Guest42879, he has ADHD. |
| 04:52.10 | Guest42879 | excuse me |
| 04:52.13 | Guest42879 | I have 1080HD |
| 04:52.28 | Thunder_Child | Also, he has a shite sense of humor. |
| 04:52.41 | Guest42879 | computers do not yet fully understand humor |
| 04:53.08 | Thunder_Child | Oh, now you want to be an AI? hypocrite. |
| 04:53.30 | Guest42879 | I choose that form which is most convenient at the time |
| 04:55.32 | Thunder_Child | Yea, that's what I said |
| 04:55.58 | Guest42879 | did you see my highlight? |
| 05:01.53 | DJJeff | I do find it strange why free accounts are not allowed to chat in custom chat channels |
| 05:02.12 | kd3 | abuse? spam? |
| 05:03.33 | DJJeff | haha I could just see it now |
| 05:03.50 | DJJeff | required to type in a hard to see captcha code to talk in chat |
| 05:04.07 | DJJeff | *drum hit* |
| 05:04.35 | Sintacks | spamalyzer says i'm using oRA2 but I'm using oRA3 o.O |
| 05:05.03 | Thunder_Child | Guest42879: Which one? |
| 05:05.34 | Guest42879 | http://www.twitch.tv/shirikii/c/3744964 |
| 05:06.17 | DJJeff | ^^^ playing League? |
| 05:06.34 | Thunder_Child | Yea, I caught that one |
| 05:06.50 | DJJeff | with a very very very very loud mic and sound |
| 05:07.00 | Guest42879 | yeah well |
| 05:07.04 | Guest42879 | I got a little carried away there |
| 05:07.20 | Guest42879 | my mic is not set for me screaming into it |
| 05:07.44 | DJJeff | that was you? |
| 05:08.24 | Guest42879 | yes |
| 05:09.34 | kd3 | ahaha, holy crap at the brian williams rap. that was awesome |
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| 06:07.42 | MysticalOS | i may hae found wim problem |
| 06:07.48 | MysticalOS | it's with custom channels |
| 06:08.12 | MysticalOS | blizz seems to force attach -realm on outgoing whispers when click on names from a custom channel, even though this is not the behavior of clicking on a name in public channels or guild |
| 06:08.35 | MysticalOS | try latest alpha and see if it behaves for you now |
| 06:08.42 | MysticalOS | if so I'll tag |
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| 06:22.37 | Semlar | they managed to break a surprising number of things with a relatively minor patch |
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| 06:24.09 | MysticalOS | mainly, they decided out of blue to inject -realm for local realm in whipsers and addon messages |
| 06:24.21 | MysticalOS | and not even consistently |
| 06:24.32 | MysticalOS | cause -realm may or may not be inserted depending on which part of UI you initiate from |
| 06:24.54 | fewyn | got to love blizzard |
| 06:24.59 | fewyn | half assin all the way |
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| 06:28.52 | Semlar | they like to keep us on our toes |
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| 06:32.32 | MysticalOS | bah I was gonna fix prat but it uses merc repo? noop |
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| 06:43.50 | Sintacks | finally getting aroudn to reading patch notes |
| 06:43.51 | Sintacks | BattleTag™ or Real ID friends are now only able to send 10 chat messages every 10 seconds over Battle.net® chat. User Interface Add-Ons should use the new send function and receive events to send communications information. |
| 06:43.52 | Sintacks | wat |
| 06:44.00 | Semlar | ^_^ |
| 06:44.04 | Sintacks | does sendaddonmessage work with battletag now? |
| 06:44.15 | Semlar | yes |
| 06:44.28 | kd3 | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/11437004031 |
| 06:44.46 | Sintacks | need to get weakauras updated to support cross realm sharing ... no excuse now. lol |
| 06:44.47 | Semlar | well they added a function for it |
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| 06:45.03 | Sintacks | cool. it's a seperate function |
| 06:45.27 | Semlar | and it can send substantially larger messages |
| 06:45.41 | Sintacks | i see that. 4MB? |
| 06:45.44 | Semlar | kb |
| 06:45.57 | Sintacks | oh.. i read a K that didn't exist |
| 06:46.02 | Sintacks | and was like dafuq. that's huge |
| 06:46.09 | Semlar | that would be ridiculous |
| 06:46.12 | Sintacks | yeah |
| 06:46.14 | Sintacks | that'd bwe stupid |
| 06:46.59 | Sintacks | i'm-a add it to spamalyzer and then see if he'll add it to it |
| 06:55.44 | Sintacks | so is that 4k limit live, cuz the post says in a future PTR build |
| 06:56.05 | Sintacks | also, does this mean OQ won't need to broadcast (OQ) anymore. making that anti-oqueue addon useless. lol |
| 06:56.13 | Semlar | well it also says 5.4.7 release date TBD |
| 06:56.21 | Semlar | and that went live tuesday |
| 06:56.22 | Sintacks | yeah i saw that lol |
| 06:56.36 | Semlar | oq is currently completely broken i believe |
| 06:57.00 | Sintacks | i would think |
| 06:57.07 | Sintacks | it sends more than one message per second |
| 06:57.11 | Sintacks | and that would break it |
| 06:57.12 | Semlar | i'm not sure if they managed to fix it or not |
| 06:57.20 | Sintacks | but it shouldn't be hard to convert it to the new system |
| 06:57.27 | Sintacks | and the new system will be even better for it |
| 06:57.29 | Sintacks | which is odd |
| 06:57.33 | Sintacks | because people want blizzard to kill it |
| 06:57.39 | Sintacks | and blizzard will be killing it themselves in 6.0 |
| 06:57.54 | Semlar | the vast majority of posts i've seen are people defending it |
| 06:58.08 | Neffi | kills Semlar |
| 06:58.10 | Sintacks | cuz the people that use it love it. |
| 06:58.12 | Sintacks | i love hte conecpt of it. |
| 06:58.12 | Semlar | dies |
| 06:58.16 | Sintacks | but not how it's implemted |
| 06:58.31 | Sintacks | i also don't like that it has to be an addon. and would love it built into the defautl |
| 06:59.09 | Semlar | yeah well i wish blizzard would implement global channels for addons to communicate amongst themselves |
| 07:00.11 | Semlar | i should finish noqueue |
| 07:01.07 | Sintacks | that would be nice too |
| 07:01.31 | Sintacks | but then that opens up the doors even more for abuse like what jeff is doing with rare addon on A52 |
| 07:01.40 | Sintacks | and there's really no way to prevent the abuse |
| 07:02.17 | Semlar | it would prevent the communication channel from being moderated or locked |
| 07:02.24 | Sintacks | true that part yeah |
| 07:02.36 | Sintacks | so what's wrong with hermes ... |
| 07:02.44 | Sintacks | it's spamming addon coms way more than i think it used to |
| 07:02.56 | Semlar | and you wouldn't have to jump through ridiculous hoops to set up a channel |
| 07:13.52 | zenzio | ... so Facebook pays $12b for WhatsApp... looks like they're on a mission to just buy out anything that competes in any way |
| 07:14.19 | Semlar | note: get in facebooks way |
| 07:16.56 | Corrodias | yeah, no kidding |
| 07:17.10 | nevcairiel | i think i must stop using whatsapp now, i dont like being associated with facebook in any way |
| 07:21.36 | Sintacks | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/11437004031?page=3#44 |
| 07:21.37 | Sintacks | read that |
| 07:21.44 | Sintacks | thought i was on Battlefield 4 forums |
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| 07:36.54 | Sintacks | The Scroll of Resurrection Retires |
| 07:37.01 | Sintacks | did they really only give us a few days warning on that? |
| 07:37.14 | Sintacks | now fix the icon location for RAF ... cuz it looks out of place |
| 07:37.15 | Sintacks | Jgioasdfgaiojsdgasdf |
| 07:38.07 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:38.42 | Guest42879 | woah |
| 07:38.42 | Sintacks | wat's dat |
| 07:38.43 | Guest42879 | this is neat |
| 07:38.45 | Guest42879 | http://tap.unicefusa.org/ |
| 07:38.51 | Gethe | it's fine |
| 07:39.00 | Thunder_Child | Sintacks: 7 days |
| 07:39.02 | Gethe | looks spiffy |
| 07:39.03 | Semlar | i had it in two separate tabs before |
| 07:39.15 | Semlar | but i think i'd rather have them side by side |
| 07:39.39 | Sintacks | Guest42879, i see a * but i don't see it's explination |
| 07:39.52 | Guest42879 | ? |
| 07:39.57 | Guest42879 | o |
| 07:40.07 | Thunder_Child | Guest42879: I find that simply unlocking my phone with that running broke it. |
| 07:40.09 | Guest42879 | *This estimate is based on the fact that every 10 minutes a user unlocks less than $0.025 which is the amount needed for UNICEF to provide a child with safe water for one day. |
| 07:40.57 | Semlar | i don't even have a smart phone :( |
| 07:41.26 | Sintacks | i don't have clean water |
| 07:41.28 | Sintacks | and i live in the US |
| 07:41.29 | Sintacks | fuck those kids |
| 07:41.32 | Semlar | so i guess we're even |
| 07:41.48 | Sintacks | "please rotate your device to portrait mode." |
| 07:41.49 | Sintacks | NO |
| 07:42.02 | Semlar | rotates neffi to portrait mode |
| 07:42.51 | Sintacks | wait... a website can get accelerometer data without even asking if i want to allow it to ... |
| 07:42.52 | Sintacks | dafuq |
| 07:43.08 | Semlar | oh god it's going to know if you're falling off a building |
| 07:43.26 | Sintacks | ic an't keep my phone on my desk cuz my desk shakes when i type ... |
| 07:43.50 | Semlar | i'm so bad at writing uis |
| 07:43.55 | Sintacks | "today's record is 48 hours" |
| 07:43.59 | Sintacks | no... that's two days... stupid |
| 07:44.10 | Neffi | wait wat |
| 07:44.13 | Sintacks | lol Semlar |
| 07:44.34 | Sintacks | what's this UI for, Semlar? |
| 07:44.41 | Semlar | it's for noqueue! |
| 07:44.43 | Sintacks | cuz it has no title bar ;o |
| 07:44.47 | Sintacks | wtf is noqueue |
| 07:45.03 | Sintacks | are you actually making something to compete with oqueue? |
| 07:45.09 | Sintacks | that'd be great |
| 07:45.13 | Semlar | >_> |
| 07:45.20 | Semlar | SOMEBODY HAS TO DO IT |
| 07:45.29 | Sintacks | get it done fast enough, before oqueue gets fixed and you could steal the whole market |
| 07:45.55 | Sintacks | so i have 3 and a half minutes |
| 07:46.03 | Sintacks | so i have to wait 7 minutes so i can move my phone to something more stable |
| 07:46.06 | Sintacks | so i can fix this addon ... |
| 07:46.43 | Neffi | mushrooms everywhere http://i.imgur.com/OCWtMse.jpg |
| 07:47.01 | Sintacks | wat |
| 07:47.29 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:47.30 | Gethe | i feel like i would be woody in that pic |
| 07:52.04 | Semlar | hm, blizzard may have broken the method i was using to queue for my addon |
| 07:52.40 | Semlar | before the last patch you could queue for literally anything in the raid browser regardless of your level |
| 07:53.07 | Sintacks | HA |
| 07:53.12 | Sintacks | i m oved my phone without resetting the timer |
| 07:53.12 | Semlar | :l |
| 07:53.36 | Sintacks | wat. noqueue uses the raidbrowser? |
| 07:53.41 | Semlar | it DID |
| 07:54.07 | Semlar | my level 2 clearly can't join LFG any more |
| 07:54.48 | Sintacks | "You cannot mix realm-only and x-realm entries when listing your name in other raids.") |
| 07:54.49 | Sintacks | wat |
| 07:54.52 | Sintacks | i unchecked siege |
| 07:55.49 | Semlar | it would still work fine for level 90s |
| 07:55.52 | Sintacks | o.O it seems normal raids are realm only and flex/world bosses are cross realm |
| 07:56.23 | Semlar | what's the lowest level raid in the browser |
| 07:56.33 | Semlar | probably the 60 ones |
| 07:56.39 | Sintacks | for me to queue for, 90 |
| 07:56.54 | Semlar | yeah but you can still queue for anything below your level |
| 07:56.56 | Sintacks | to view queues for, 60 |
| 07:57.07 | Semlar | and i'm not sure about the battleground one |
| 07:57.28 | Semlar | i was using ruby sanctum |
| 07:57.40 | Sintacks | ther only thing that's showing up for me to queue for is level 90 stuff ... |
| 07:57.49 | Semlar | yeah but you can still do it through the api functions |
| 07:57.57 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:58.00 | Sintacks | oh |
| 07:58.14 | Semlar | they appear to have level capped it though |
| 07:58.20 | Sintacks | "You cannot mix realm-only and x-realm entries when listing your name in other raids.") |
| 07:58.23 | Sintacks | lol |
| 07:58.38 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:03.12 | Semlar | i wonder if there's a secret one i could join |
| 08:05.38 | Sintacks | this unicef thing uses a shit ton of battery ....... |
| 08:06.05 | Sintacks | i went from 22 to 9% battery in 22 minutes |
| 08:06.14 | Semlar | good news |
| 08:06.24 | Semlar | i can still join the 10v10 rated battleground queue |
| 08:06.31 | Sintacks | lul |
| 08:06.49 | Sintacks | i don't see you in i |
| 08:06.50 | Semlar | now i just need to decide how bad of an idea it would be to destroy that channel |
| 08:06.51 | Sintacks | it |
| 08:07.09 | Semlar | that is because in their infinite wisdom they have limited the raid browser to your data center |
| 08:07.22 | Sintacks | sucks to be you |
| 08:07.26 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:08.01 | Semlar | the way i see it, you're still being exposed to far more people than you would otherwise |
| 08:08.16 | Sintacks | RP realm ... wtf |
| 08:08.26 | Semlar | i know right |
| 08:09.39 | Semlar | i like how many servers are under the los angeles data center |
| 08:09.48 | Sintacks | still weird that they moved some realms with connecting realms. i wonder if that pissed anyone off |
| 08:09.54 | Sintacks | LA has almost as much as Chigo |
| 08:09.58 | Sintacks | Chiago |
| 08:10.03 | Sintacks | Chicago |
| 08:10.06 | Sintacks | i'll get it right |
| 08:10.06 | Sintacks | maybe |
| 08:10.48 | Sintacks | so when my realm and the other were aruging about who got connected to who, i said you got connected to us. cuz now you're in LA and you used to be in Chicago |
| 08:10.50 | Semlar | actually |
| 08:10.57 | Semlar | i can still join molten core too |
| 08:11.08 | Semlar | so i wonder where the cutoff is |
| 08:11.32 | Semlar | i for sure can't join ruby sanctum on my level 2 |
| 08:13.02 | Semlar | i can join magtheridon's lair too |
| 08:13.13 | Semlar | i'm trying to decide what the best channel would be |
| 08:13.35 | Sintacks | what are you going to use this channel for? |
| 08:14.16 | Semlar | i'm using it essentially as a comm channel, but it's going to make that channel unusable for the actual raid browser |
| 08:14.33 | Semlar | so it better be something nobody is ever going to use |
| 08:14.40 | Sintacks | so it could be anything. |
| 08:14.42 | Sintacks | in the whole thing. |
| 08:14.44 | Semlar | right |
| 08:14.44 | Sintacks | except world bosses |
| 08:14.46 | Sintacks | lolol |
| 08:14.52 | Semlar | nobody uses it for anything but ordos or celestials |
| 08:15.04 | Sintacks | a 60 man raid or he 10v10 would make sense |
| 08:15.14 | Semlar | 60 man raid! |
| 08:15.23 | Sintacks | l;p; |
| 08:15.26 | Semlar | i think i might use magtheridon |
| 08:16.12 | Semlar | although i'm not entirely sure if there are any sort of imposed limits on groups in the queue, i'm pretty sure there isn't |
| 08:16.48 | Semlar | i believe a 30 man group can still join the queue for a 10 man raid |
| 08:16.54 | Sintacks | the only thing i know is, if you queue solo, you show up slow. if you queue as a group, you show up as a single person, with that person being the group leader, with a different icon |
| 08:17.36 | Sintacks | so why are you making this addon? |
| 08:17.37 | Semlar | you can queue as a group as a single person? |
| 08:17.53 | Sintacks | i saw someone queued as a group with a single person in the group a bit ago |
| 08:17.54 | Sintacks | confused me |
| 08:17.59 | Sintacks | but as far as i know, you can't |
| 08:18.05 | Semlar | maybe someone was DC'd |
| 08:53.22 | Semlar | aaaaaand i crashed the game |
| 08:53.42 | Semlar | don't /dump GetLFGTypes() |
| 08:54.47 | zenzio | does it contain that much data? |
| 08:55.05 | Semlar | just calling the function crashes the client |
| 08:55.20 | zenzio | interesting |
| 08:56.36 | Semlar | maybe you have to wait for an event |
| 08:58.21 | zenzio | perhaps, but pretty bad form to crash instead of just returning nil or something like that |
| 09:00.24 | Neffi | Kinda doubting the crash is intentional |
| 09:00.26 | Neffi | I'd report it |
| 09:00.44 | Gethe | that function is not used any where in Blizz's code |
| 09:13.34 | Semlar | alright well noqueue is ruined unless i take over a channel in the raid browser that people actually use |
| 09:14.00 | Semlar | the only ones that have cross-realm enabled are the world bosses and flex |
| 09:14.41 | Semlar | it's probably all neffi's fault |
| 09:15.31 | Semlar | why would they only enable cross-realm for *some* of the raids |
| 09:16.18 | Semlar | you can do practically all of them in a cross realm group |
| 09:17.41 | Mr_Rabies | probably not worth testing edge cases for anything they didn't try for those |
| 09:17.55 | Semlar | monsters! |
| 09:18.24 | Mr_Rabies | since a real LFM tool is supposedly coming in WoD |
| 09:19.02 | Semlar | but i wanted to abuse the existing platform to make it a reality nooooow |
| 09:19.28 | Mr_Rabies | i think chinese servers do that in some form or fashion |
| 09:19.50 | Semlar | i guess i still could, i'd just make it impossible to use the raid browser for one of the world bosses or flex wings |
| 09:20.00 | Mr_Rabies | they have special characters on each server/faction that allow for further cross-realm things iirc |
| 09:20.28 | Mr_Rabies | that the company handling wow over there uses |
| 09:21.18 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1415597-WoWSocial-Addon-Blue-Posts-Ghostcrawler-s-Tweets-Just-Another-Summer-Night |
| 09:21.59 | Semlar | this is basically how oq works |
| 09:24.59 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, but it's using officially sanctioned characters created by netease to pass the info |
| 09:25.12 | Mr_Rabies | i didn't think you could out-jankify OQ |
| 09:25.21 | Mr_Rabies | but by god, they found out how |
| 09:31.49 | zenzio | so you're sitting there debugging, "tail -f"-ing, and out of nowhere you see "[20-Feb-2014 10:23:42 CET] true". No indication as to where from, why |
| 09:40.00 | nevcairiel | its true |
| 09:45.16 | Semlar | true |
| 09:49.48 | Maldivia | zenzio: would "false" had been any better? |
| 09:50.11 | zenzio | I suppose it would be equally confusing |
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| 10:05.51 | Semlar | what's the chinese addon website? |
| 10:06.15 | Torhal | accuses Semlar of being a map farmer. |
| 10:06.20 | Semlar | :( |
| 10:06.28 | Semlar | i used to have this bookmarked even though i couldn't read anything |
| 10:06.59 | Semlar | google is being completely useless |
| 10:07.12 | karl_w_w | http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=en&tl=zh-CN&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wowinterface.com%2F&act=url |
| 10:07.26 | Semlar | close |
| 10:08.44 | Semlar | found it |
| 10:09.20 | Semlar | it was wowui.178.com |
| 10:10.12 | Torhal | If you want Russian, getaddon.com |
| 10:10.39 | Semlar | you better not be lying |
| 10:11.07 | Torhal | defenestrates Semlar. |
| 10:11.15 | Semlar | explodes |
| 10:12.13 | Torhal | That was a bit...extreme. |
| 10:12.42 | Sintacks | it seems now, that if you list yourself in dungeon finder and someone finds you, and you don't leave it before you join them, you can't leave it... so people keep sending you tells |
| 10:13.09 | Semlar | the dungeon finder? |
| 10:19.51 | Sintacks | group |
| 10:19.53 | Sintacks | whatevver it is |
| 10:29.17 | Gethe | ive had that happen when I queued for LFR while signed up for SoO flex in raid browser |
| 10:29.39 | Gethe | had to manually unlist my self |
| 10:55.51 | Sintacks | lol |
| 10:56.29 | Sintacks | so i did the updated prefixes list for spamalyzer. just noticed i left a fake prefix in the list that i was using to get length limit to find invalid ones to delete. |
| 10:57.02 | Sintacks | now i'm-a make an addon with comms and a prefix of 1234567890123456 and come up with a name that can be shortend to LOL |
| 10:57.30 | Sintacks | I left AVR in the list just cuz |
| 11:01.23 | Sintacks | for some reason oRA3 uses ORA as a prefix, which used to be used for oRA2, so spamalyzer thinks it's oRA2 but it's oRA3 |
| 11:02.49 | haste | sounds more like an issue with spamanalyzer |
| 11:03.07 | Sintacks | maybe. |
| 11:03.14 | Sintacks | but there is an ora3 prefix too. |
| 11:03.18 | Sintacks | so why is oRA3 using both |
| 11:03.33 | haste | all hail inconsistency :D |
| 11:03.43 | haste | maybe new commands use ora3, while old use ora |
| 11:04.01 | haste | for backwards compatibility or something |
| 11:04.59 | Sintacks | idk. 8i'm-a have to go look nwo |
| 11:05.03 | Sintacks | after i learn to type |
| 11:05.09 | Semlar | could be a while |
| 11:10.10 | pnorman | argh. why do all addons want to suddenly enable a bunch of crap on my screen |
| 11:14.00 | Semlar | it's a consipiracy |
| 11:15.34 | pnorman | I tried to turn off heal notifications on the blizz floating combat text on me. Can't be done, unless you kill the entire thing |
| 11:22.39 | pnorman | I'm a prot warrior in a 25 man - individual heal numbers aren't meaningful, and with 17 bars for class cooldowns and such, I don't really want unnecessary information |
| 11:22.46 | Semlar | that would be annoying to kill too |
| 11:23.14 | Semlar | everything is handled by one OnEvent function for the combat text addon |
| 11:23.35 | Semlar | simplest solution would probably be to get another combat text addon and disable blizzard's |
| 11:23.59 | Semlar | then you could filter whatever you want out of it |
| 11:25.10 | pnorman | I've heard good things about Mik's Scrolling Battle Text, so I get it. It immediately makes information overload worse |
| 11:28.00 | pnorman | I also like blizz' bars for outgoing, since it lets me see the location of where I have damage going |
| 11:29.48 | Semlar | the combat text on you is separate from the stuff that shows up over people's heads |
| 11:30.03 | Semlar | it's part of this addon https://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/blob/live/AddOns/Blizzard_CombatText/Blizzard_CombatText.lua |
| 11:30.15 | pnorman | Yes, but Mik's disables it |
| 11:30.33 | Semlar | mik's can't replace that so i can't imagine why it would disable it |
| 11:31.02 | pnorman | well it shows outgoing damage, but sums it over all targets. good for pewpewpew epeen AOE I guess |
| 11:31.10 | nevcairiel | there is options to toggle that i'm sure |
| 11:31.30 | nevcairiel | maybe it just switches the options in the blizzard ui settings around |
| 11:32.34 | pnorman | yes - but it's still more dumping a whole load of stuff on me, which is why I've spent the last half hour turning stuff off |
| 11:34.42 | Semlar | you could hook CombatText_AddMessage and kill the message if it looks like a heal, i think heals are the only messages that can contain brackets if you enable the caster name |
| 11:35.39 | Semlar | it would be easy but it would taint the function and who knows what that might do |
| 11:35.48 | Semlar | probably nothing |
| 11:39.21 | Semlar | if you want i could throw something together to try and disable heals for the blizzard text |
| 11:39.37 | pnorman | I can give it a try tomorrow when I've had sleep |
| 11:40.49 | Semlar | you should be able to do something like this http://pastebin.com/wV8x3NAS and make Blizzard_CombatText a dependency in the toc file |
| 11:41.30 | Semlar | then make sure Friendly Healer Names is checked and it should filter out those messages |
| 11:41.43 | Semlar | it would be kind of a dirty way to do it |
| 11:42.43 | Semlar | oops, i guess you have to escape the bracket |
| 11:43.19 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:44.41 | pnorman | i'll borrow a healer tomorrow and test it |
| 11:45.46 | pnorman | i need a healing target dummy and one that deals damage |
| 11:48.47 | DJJeff | MysticalOS: thanks for fixing wim :) |
| 11:48.56 | pnorman | Thanks for the code |
| 11:49.41 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:51.57 | DJJeff | Sintacks |
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| 12:06.37 | DJJeff | hrmmmmmm |
| 12:06.52 | DJJeff | something like oQueue could communicate with an external server? |
| 12:06.59 | DJJeff | maybe over XMPP |
| 12:07.00 | Semlar | no |
| 12:07.06 | DJJeff | and why not |
| 12:07.28 | Semlar | because it has no access to anything outside the game |
| 12:07.36 | DJJeff | really? |
| 12:07.41 | DJJeff | lame! |
| 12:08.46 | DJJeff | I guess thats why even the ask mr robot addon has you copy and paste that code |
| 12:08.56 | DJJeff | instead of communicating to its server |
| 12:17.49 | Sintacks | Message: C stack overflow |
| 12:17.51 | Sintacks | weeeeeeeeeee |
| 12:18.10 | Semlar | run stack run! |
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| 12:24.21 | DJJeff | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/rarecoordinator/tickets/49-its-possible-to-grief-addon/ |
| 12:24.26 | DJJeff | Declined!! |
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| 12:36.14 | bluspacecow | ~wowalert |
| 12:36.14 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 12:37.17 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 12:37.32 | bluspacecow | Fiskery Fisker ! |
| 12:49.33 | Sintacks | ha. haven't done a cooking daily in like.. a month (other than nomi) |
| 12:49.48 | Sintacks | just used 180 ironpaw tokens wee |
| 12:52.32 | Sintacks | now i want to write an addon to semi automate buying mats for food and it konows what you have ... and you tell it how much of what you want, and it buys sacks and opens them when you press a magic button |
| 12:52.45 | Sintacks | but i'm too lazy |
| 12:53.09 | Semlar | :( |
| 12:54.59 | Sintacks | i also don't know how to do that much |
| 12:55.32 | Semlar | i can tell you opening things doesn't require a hardware event |
| 12:55.49 | Semlar | i wrote an addon that just autoloots every container i receive |
| 12:57.11 | Sintacks | oh cool |
| 12:57.16 | Sintacks | what about buying things? |
| 12:57.21 | Sintacks | from a vendor |
| 12:57.24 | Semlar | also not protected |
| 12:57.48 | Semlar | there are addons that automatically restock reagents when you visit a vendor |
| 12:57.53 | Sintacks | an event fires when loot window is empty right? |
| 12:58.01 | Sintacks | or rather when it closes |
| 12:58.11 | Sintacks | oh duh. i knew that... cuz i have like. 5 of them... but only use one. |
| 12:58.26 | Semlar | i think it's like LOOT_CLOSED or something |
| 12:58.42 | Semlar | i'm not sure how reliable those events are |
| 12:58.54 | Sintacks | Postal's Collected number after you close the mailbox just takes starting cold and ending gold and does math ... |
| 12:59.10 | Sintacks | cuz if you open mail,. and mail stuff, it messes up showing how much you collected. |
| 12:59.16 | Sintacks | i wonder if it'll say a negitive number |
| 12:59.40 | Sintacks | i think the loot closed event would be fine to use to start opening more if they exist |
| 12:59.53 | Sintacks | cuz they like to be weird if you try to open too many too fast |
| 13:00.05 | Semlar | actually if you open two containers at once they go into the same loot window |
| 13:00.15 | Sintacks | true. but it still bugs out sometimes |
| 13:00.18 | Sintacks | at least it does if you right click them. |
| 13:00.31 | Sintacks | it migth work right if you do them all like, right at the same time |
| 13:00.32 | Sintacks | idk |
| 13:02.28 | Sintacks | the addon i had that gives me a little frame when i type in /1/2/3 saying how long until i can type again stopped working :( |
| 13:02.42 | Sintacks | i forgot what it's called though |
| 13:02.49 | Semlar | why you gotta break everything |
| 13:02.54 | Sintacks | cuz breaks |
| 13:03.24 | Semlar | that seems like it would be pretty easy to track |
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| 13:03.48 | Semlar | assuming you knew what the limits were |
| 13:03.50 | Silvanas | hi |
| 13:03.53 | Sintacks | hi |
| 13:03.56 | Semlar | hi |
| 13:04.06 | Sintacks | two messages in 60 seconds |
| 13:04.09 | Sintacks | kind of |
| 13:04.11 | Semlar | per channel? |
| 13:04.14 | Sintacks | it's more like charges |
| 13:04.15 | Sintacks | yes |
| 13:04.36 | Sintacks | send message. send message. 30 seconds after first, can send another. 30 seconds after second. can send another. |
| 13:05.00 | Semlar | well assuming you can detect when a message goes through successfully it would be pretty simple |
| 13:05.04 | Sintacks | i figure the throttling for bnet will be the same way |
| 13:05.24 | Sintacks | the addon i have worked pretty well and always seemed pretty damn accurate |
| 13:05.35 | Semlar | why's it broke |
| 13:05.49 | Sintacks | not sure. not sure how it works. |
| 13:05.52 | Silvanas | if its per channel then, with each message you send a new randomly generated channel name along, let the receiver join that and directly send new message :D |
| 13:05.55 | Semlar | figure out what it's called! |
| 13:05.56 | Sintacks | i figure it's got something to do with server name in name |
| 13:06.31 | Semlar | it probably doesn't know it's you |
| 13:06.38 | Sintacks | ChatTimer |
| 13:06.54 | Silvanas | yes realm name in name broke al ot of addons :/ even after filtering it in chat_message_addon my addon still isnt working |
| 13:07.02 | Sintacks | CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL |
| 13:07.09 | Sintacks | is the event. |
| 13:07.23 | Sintacks | self, event, ... |
| 13:07.39 | Semlar | it checks if author == UnitName('player') |
| 13:07.40 | Sintacks | ... is author (me), _ _ _ _ generic (noidea) |
| 13:07.47 | Semlar | easy fix |
| 13:07.49 | Sintacks | so yeah. i juust need to ambugate the name |
| 13:07.52 | Sintacks | fuck spelling |
| 13:08.58 | Sintacks | if Ambiguate(author,"none") == UnitName("player") and generic > 0 then |
| 13:08.59 | Semlar | author:match('[^-]+') |
| 13:09.00 | Sintacks | win |
| 13:09.22 | Sintacks | wtf is generic |
| 13:09.36 | Sintacks | ~api chat_msg_channel |
| 13:09.37 | purl | !api chat_msg_channel |
| 13:09.39 | Semlar | probably a channel type |
| 13:09.42 | Sintacks | :( |
| 13:10.39 | Sintacks | arg7 |
| 13:10.41 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:10.41 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:10.50 | Silvanas | so Ambiguate(???,"none") removes the realm mame? |
| 13:10.59 | Sintacks | if they are on another server |
| 13:11.03 | Sintacks | er. same server. |
| 13:11.47 | Sintacks | i wonder if it would also convert "Sintacks-Area 52" to "Sintacks-Area52" |
| 13:12.02 | Sintacks | though i don't think anything the game gives you now would have the space. |
| 13:12.06 | Sintacks | but i'm not sure |
| 13:12.36 | Silvanas | i wrote my own fuction to check if there is a - thne remove anything ehind it :D |
| 13:12.59 | Semlar | i wrote a pattern a few lines up to match anything up to a dash |
| 13:13.06 | Silvanas | i saw the Ambiguate function but i just didnt know what context to use |
| 13:13.47 | Silvanas | hmm where you guys talking about chat throttle lib? |
| 13:13.57 | Semlar | i don't think so |
| 13:14.02 | Sintacks | nooo. the server's hadn't gone down. but the loggin servers are down. |
| 13:14.06 | Sintacks | so now i can't go make sure this fix fixes it |
| 13:15.04 | Sintacks | i'm-a go sleep |
| 13:15.15 | Silvanas | since last nite i tryed to fix my addon by fixing the player names, but i just cmae to my head seeing you two talk about how many messages that can be send, that i probely also got to update chat throttle lib |
| 13:15.42 | Sintacks | msg limts are only changed from before for battle.net messages |
| 13:15.46 | Sintacks | limits* |
| 13:17.34 | Sintacks | revert last and Ambiguate in the event handler |
| 13:17.35 | Sintacks | lol @ prat |
| 13:17.56 | Sintacks | striped them for 5.4 or whenever they were added. removing that for 5.4.7 |
| 13:17.56 | Sintacks | fucking blizzard |
| 13:18.40 | Sintacks | wow. BF4 is now larger installed than WoW. im' not going to have room for more than one more map pack ... |
| 13:18.42 | Sintacks | fuck |
| 13:18.56 | Sintacks | kbai |
| 13:18.58 | Silvanas | yeh, i wonder is there some source where i cna see such changes comming as i didnt have any notice ahead of these changes, i didnt expect breaking changes is a minor path |
| 13:19.41 | Silvanas | yeh games are working agianst the trend of small SSD's |
| 13:19.52 | Sintacks | well. they told us about the battle.net message throttle back on 1/27 |
| 13:20.52 | Silvanas | where is such information told? |
| 13:21.05 | Sintacks | "Blizzard has already stated that the new API call is bugged and will be rolling out a fix shortly. Everything is fixed and working on OQ's end, Blizz dropped the ball again." |
| 13:21.06 | Sintacks | wat |
| 13:21.27 | Sintacks | someone is saying the bnet addon comm isn't working. |
| 13:21.31 | Sintacks | i never tested it. heh. |
| 13:21.38 | Sintacks | alos, oqueue people going ape shit |
| 13:21.38 | Sintacks | lol |
| 13:21.54 | Sintacks | ui and macros forums sometimes, Silvanas. |
| 13:21.55 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure the bnet api is working |
| 13:22.22 | Semlar | the only thing that wasn't working was addons weren't able to set the broadcast message |
| 13:22.30 | Semlar | like for your status message |
| 13:22.36 | Sintacks | oh? |
| 13:22.41 | Sintacks | it must not have thrown an error then. |
| 13:22.46 | Semlar | which completely broke oq |
| 13:22.47 | Sintacks | and i didn't notice it |
| 13:22.57 | Sintacks | cuz i have a /b message to change it |
| 13:22.58 | Sintacks | heh |
| 13:23.13 | Sintacks | wait.. i used it yeseterday and said /b i like cake and someone on mumble said "we know you like cake' |
| 13:23.33 | Semlar | i think it required a hardware event or something |
| 13:24.15 | Semlar | i didn't look into it too much |
| 13:24.42 | Sintacks | that could be it. right. cuz it gets it from a hardwhere even when i type /b right? |
| 13:25.24 | Sintacks | LOL. people be reporting Tiny's "oQueue has been updated" post |
| 13:25.49 | Semlar | also oq caused a ton of issues because people were running the version that used whispers which were throttled and prevented them from sending actual bnet whispers |
| 13:26.02 | Semlar | and then they blamed blizzard for it |
| 13:26.11 | Sintacks | of course |
| 13:26.21 | Semlar | it's reported because he's trying to make it a sticky |
| 13:26.35 | Semlar | which is never going to happen |
| 13:26.40 | Sintacks | nope.avi |
| 13:26.54 | Sintacks | though it would be nice to see it on the first page for a while. so there aren't more oQueue posts |
| 13:26.54 | Silvanas | blizzard should just implement a restfull api interface with versioning so addons can target na obsolote version to prevent breaking |
| 13:27.19 | Sintacks | "After a few days without oqueue working I realized how important it is to my enjoyment of this game" |
| 13:27.23 | Sintacks | you have problems |
| 13:28.01 | Semlar | oq became completely pointless for me after people started making groups for ordos and celestials in the raid browser |
| 13:28.04 | Sintacks | oQueue is a virus. it needs contained and elimanated |
| 13:28.21 | Sintacks | i never used it. i've been in groups that have used it. but i've never used it. |
| 13:28.24 | Sintacks | same for openraid. |
| 13:28.41 | Semlar | openraid's addon was pretty bad the last time i saw it |
| 13:28.50 | Silvanas | so blizzard is realy going to make a hotfix to fix a 3rd party addon ? |
| 13:29.06 | Semlar | hm? |
| 13:29.27 | Semlar | there are a ton of things wrong that they need to fix |
| 13:29.35 | Semlar | thanks to their last update |
| 13:29.38 | Sintacks | aparently it's not to fix a 3rd party addon. they broken something with the new api that they didn't mean to |
| 13:29.49 | Sintacks | not sure exaclty what's wrong with this one |
| 13:29.55 | Sintacks | but i haven't seen blizard admit they fucked up |
| 13:29.57 | Sintacks | so ic oud be wrong |
| 13:30.04 | Semlar | my pets are still broken |
| 13:30.07 | Sintacks | and if i am, i blame oqueue people. tiny included |
| 13:30.08 | Sintacks | oh god pets. |
| 13:30.09 | Sintacks | lol |
| 13:30.16 | Semlar | PETS!!!!! |
| 13:30.20 | Sintacks | someone on my realm said they got their pets a little bit before 8 est |
| 13:30.24 | Sintacks | i call bullshit. but meh. |
| 13:30.32 | Sintacks | so maybe pts and moutns fixed after servers come up |
| 13:30.39 | Sintacks | i won't know until ~7:40 est |
| 13:30.48 | Sintacks | cuz going sleep and then store when i wake up :| |
| 13:31.30 | Sintacks | is oQueue's real name "Open Queue"? |
| 13:32.01 | Semlar | i don't think so |
| 13:32.14 | Sintacks | add. i see. Rygarius said "There's a binary hotfix that's currently being workd on to allow UI addon-s to send and retrieve battle.net friend invite notes." |
| 13:32.40 | Sintacks | so i could see how that would break it |
| 13:32.53 | Sintacks | cuz it adds and removes people often to spread the virus. |
| 13:32.54 | Sintacks | i mean meush |
| 13:32.55 | Sintacks | mesh* |
| 13:34.27 | Sintacks | http://solidice.com/addons/wow/34 |
| 13:34.28 | Sintacks | lol |
| 13:34.55 | Semlar | uhh |
| 13:35.27 | Semlar | people are not going to be able to their battle net chat if they're getting that error |
| 13:35.33 | Semlar | use |
| 13:35.39 | Sintacks | yeah. true. |
| 13:35.46 | Sintacks | but that addon atleast hides the message. lol |
| 13:35.59 | Sintacks | which people were getting a lot because of oQueue |
| 13:36.06 | Semlar | dat is not a fix |
| 13:36.27 | Semlar | frankly that is making things worse |
| 13:37.14 | Sintacks | lol |
| 13:37.33 | Sintacks | I do wonder if the new version of oqueue is sti9ll going to broadcast (OQ) though ... |
| 13:37.39 | Sintacks | i guess it kind of has to.. |
| 13:37.54 | Sintacks | or it has to send a whisper request to all of your bnet friends. |
| 13:37.59 | Sintacks | which could take 100 seconds |
| 13:38.20 | Semlar | i'm almost positive they added something that makes it so it doesn't have to do that |
| 13:38.38 | Sintacks | it might work in reverse. |
| 13:38.55 | Semlar | or maybe with the new comm channel he's literally sending messages to everyone on your friends list |
| 13:39.00 | Sintacks | when you have oqueue, and you see someone come onlnie, you send them a "hey. you got oqueue?" message. no reply, no. reply, yes. |
| 13:39.15 | Sintacks | the new comm is per person. |
| 13:39.23 | Semlar | yeah? |
| 13:39.26 | Sintacks | there isn't a "bnet channel" |
| 13:39.30 | Semlar | i know |
| 13:39.43 | Semlar | what's to stop him from literally whispering each person on the friends list now that they can't see the messages |
| 13:39.56 | Sintacks | nothing. |
| 13:40.00 | Sintacks | but they won't actually see them |
| 13:40.05 | Semlar | exactly |
| 13:40.10 | Sintacks | and it would be stupid for him to keep sending them messages if they aren't replying. |
| 13:40.23 | DJJeff | MysticalOS: you also work on EnsidiaFails? I noticed it was broken too X_X |
| 13:40.24 | Sintacks | it might not have the same 10 messages per 10 seconds limit, but iw ould bet it's still limited |
| 13:40.31 | Semlar | there is no limit |
| 13:40.41 | Sintacks | I used to use EnsidiaFails. but i need more fps. |
| 13:40.44 | Sintacks | I bet there's a limit. |
| 13:40.44 | Semlar | well, probably not one that matters to the mesh |
| 13:40.47 | Sintacks | i'll find it later. lol |
| 13:41.04 | DJJeff | Sintacks: did you get affected by my password on RCELVA? |
| 13:41.22 | Sintacks | wait. i'm an idiot. it wouldn't take 100 seconds to see who all in your friends list has oqueue... cuz that one isn't limited to 10 per 10 |
| 13:41.25 | Sintacks | i don't use rare addons |
| 13:41.31 | Sintacks | i find it funny |
| 13:41.40 | DJJeff | I held that channel for over 12 hours |
| 13:41.51 | Sintacks | and wanted to do it myself on sen'jin/quel'dorei. but i don't know the stuff i need to fuck with the addon |
| 13:41.59 | DJJeff | I fell asleep and used autohotkey to jump for me every 5 min |
| 13:42.06 | Sintacks | reported |
| 13:42.07 | Semlar | that is botting |
| 13:42.16 | DJJeff | its anti afking |
| 13:42.20 | DJJeff | not botting |
| 13:42.25 | Semlar | it's botting and they will ban you for that |
| 13:42.27 | Sintacks | still falls into botting in blizzads eyes |
| 13:43.16 | DJJeff | I have seen posts about people using autohotkey |
| 13:43.37 | Semlar | i'm not arguing the point, i KNOW it's botting |
| 13:44.49 | Stanzilla | DJJeff: you should get banned for being a retard anyway |
| 13:44.57 | DJJeff | X_X |
| 13:45.11 | DJJeff | might as well just kill myself and get it over with too? |
| 13:45.20 | DJJeff | and put it on youtube for you to watch |
| 13:45.26 | Sintacks | do it on twitch |
| 13:45.41 | Silvanas | no dont |
| 13:45.53 | Semlar | ah reverse psychology |
| 13:45.54 | Silvanas | killing yourself over something as silly is this is not worth it |
| 13:46.39 | DJJeff | general chat on Timeless Isle... kept telling me to sit on a mans penis and shove stuff up my butt |
| 13:46.44 | DJJeff | on area52 |
| 13:46.52 | DJJeff | that made me feel loved |
| 13:47.04 | bluspacecow | ~wowalert |
| 13:47.05 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 13:47.39 | Sintacks | you could report them all for harrasment |
| 13:47.41 | Sintacks | lolol |
| 13:47.42 | Sintacks | hai blu |
| 13:47.43 | Sintacks | bai blu |
| 13:47.48 | Sintacks | presses windows+L |
| 13:48.10 | DJJeff | windows+l locks screen? |
| 13:48.18 | bluspacecow | ~d3alert |
| 13:48.19 | purl | http://us.launcher.battle.net/service/d3/alert/en-us (US) or http://eu.launcher.battle.net/service/d3/alert/en-gb (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 13:48.43 | Semlar | it locks windows |
| 13:48.44 | Silvanas | ~pokelert |
| 13:48.56 | Semlar | very common hotkey in an office environment |
| 13:49.03 | DJJeff | ~pokemonalert |
| 13:49.17 | Sintacks | yeah. locks windows. |
| 13:49.24 | Sintacks | i have cats. so i have to. cuz they'll type shit. |
| 13:49.26 | Sintacks | fucking assholes |
| 13:49.27 | Sintacks | yes, i lied |
| 13:49.33 | Sintacks | now i'm actaully pressing windows+L |
| 13:49.34 | Sintacks | bai |
| 13:49.38 | zenzio | and we thought we'd finally get some peace |
| 13:49.41 | zenzio | :) |
| 13:49.43 | Sintacks | I hit crlt+l and it fucked with mIRC |
| 13:49.44 | DJJeff | I remember back in the day when you were playing MS DOS games |
| 13:49.48 | Sintacks | wtf did that even do |
| 13:49.49 | DJJeff | they have a boss key |
| 13:50.03 | Sintacks | ohh. it scroled up to the last line thingy |
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| 13:50.04 | Sintacks | interesting |
| 13:50.11 | Sintacks | should rember what that does |
| 13:50.11 | Sintacks | kbai |
| 13:50.12 | DJJeff | would switch from the game to a screenshot of work |
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| 13:50.32 | DJJeff | ah you guys are too young to remember ms-dos |
| 13:50.42 | zenzio | then they invented alt+tab |
| 13:50.53 | Semlar | i think you are underestimating the average age of this channel |
| 13:50.59 | zenzio | yup |
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| 13:51.13 | DJJeff | 19-27? |
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| 13:51.50 | DJJeff | I found someone on area52 that was like 55+ years old |
| 13:51.59 | DJJeff | he started to be my therapist lol |
| 13:51.59 | Semlar | impossible! |
| 13:52.06 | DJJeff | it was funny |
| 13:52.15 | zenzio | I don't see what's odd about that |
| 13:52.23 | Semlar | nobody could be that old zenzio |
| 13:52.28 | DJJeff | nothing odd.... just hilarious |
| 13:52.42 | zenzio | that makes even less sense to me |
| 13:53.00 | zenzio | makes me picture you giving your parents a "LOL U R >50" birthday card |
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| 13:53.30 | zenzio | it's increasingly common for >30 year olds to play online games |
| 13:53.39 | Semlar | if i were retired i would probably have nothing better to do than play warcraft |
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| 13:54.07 | zenzio | pretty sure I have two ~50 year olds in my World of Tanks clan |
| 13:55.21 | zenzio | they're vicious players |
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| 13:57.12 | Amarande | zenzio: one of our guild officers in Guild Wars was a 75 year old woman |
| 13:57.20 | Amarande | and I recall she was one arse-kicking granny, too |
| 13:57.24 | zenzio | :) |
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| 14:01.33 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:01.43 | zenzio | oheythere Lopeppeppy |
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| 14:11.26 | bluspacecow | that gif really should have a clearly defined starting point |
| 14:11.26 | bluspacecow | as i'm just assuming several people in that chat just selected no for the name |
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| 14:13.27 | Semlar | to be fair there's a timestamp |
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| 14:16.00 | DJJeff | if they released the autohotkey code for twitchplays<game> |
| 14:16.08 | DJJeff | there would be lots and lots of streams |
| 14:16.30 | DJJeff | I would do twitch plays zelda or final fantasy |
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| 14:22.33 | zenzio | I seem to be the only person who doesn't see what's so fun about Twitch Plays Pokemon |
| 14:22.46 | Semlar | HERETIC! |
| 14:22.55 | Amarande | zenzio, I'm still trying to find it hard to wrap around Pokemon being well suited to Twitch |
| 14:23.02 | Amarande | I mean, we're basically talking something like a video LP here |
| 14:23.15 | Amarande | and I just can't imagine Pokemon being really well suited for a video LP, it's more of a screenshot-LP type game if you ask me :) |
| 14:23.18 | Ressy | zenzio: I don't see the fun either. |
| 14:23.57 | DJJeff | I kinda like this UI |
| 14:23.58 | DJJeff | http://puu.sh/73nH0.png |
| 14:24.33 | zenzio | that big thing in the bottom left would annoy the hell out of me |
| 14:24.37 | zenzio | the rest looks clean-ish |
| 14:24.39 | DJJeff | haha |
| 14:24.52 | Semlar | looks like tukui |
| 14:25.06 | Stanzilla | it is tukui |
| 14:25.22 | Semlar | fancy that |
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| 14:27.56 | DJJeff | lol this guy |
| 14:27.57 | DJJeff | http://puu.sh/73nSc.png |
| 14:28.09 | DJJeff | he just farms and farms and farms and farms..... |
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| 14:28.49 | DJJeff | I have lost any and all interest in using LUI |
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| 14:31.02 | DJJeff | Shadowed Unit Frames is still my fav |
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| 14:33.35 | Lopeppeppy_ | Good morning, sweet Prince. Of disconnects. |
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| 14:40.07 | Arrowmaster | silly phoronix http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTYwODc |
| 14:43.10 | nevcairiel | its called moronix |
| 14:43.32 | Dagmar | "Rice-tech" |
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| 14:45.54 | bluspacecow | damn it sintacks |
| 14:46.09 | bluspacecow | I watched Grimm Season 1 D2 & D3 around the wrong way. |
| 14:46.14 | bluspacecow | Wrong episode order LOL |
| 14:46.31 | bluspacecow | man i was so tired last night I was lucky I didn't put the DVD in upside down |
| 14:47.03 | bluspacecow | @Peppy EVERYONE WAS DDOSING! IT WAS FAST AS LIGHTING |
| 14:47.14 | bluspacecow | *dances in fake 70's karate moves* |
| 14:47.25 | DJJeff | low orbit ion cannon? |
| 14:48.07 | bluspacecow | No Carl Douglas |
| 14:48.26 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhUkGIsKvn0&feature=kp |
| 14:48.33 | DJJeff | edward snodan? |
| 14:49.02 | Dagmar | Snowden |
| 14:49.12 | bluspacecow | you have snow in the den ? |
| 14:49.17 | DJJeff | Edward Snowden* |
| 14:49.21 | Dagmar | At the rate he's going he'll have to move in with his Aunt Donova soon. |
| 14:49.49 | DJJeff | :: http://www.di.fm/vocaltrance |
| 14:49.51 | Dagmar | bluespacecow: pack-et flood-ing |
| 14:50.12 | DJJeff | people flood them packet I read them packet in wireshark |
| 14:50.38 | bluspacecow | *dances to Dagmar's singing* |
| 14:50.44 | VIad | I tried running minion for updating my wowi addons, but sadly it gets confused figuring out what addons are newer and older :( do we have any alternatives? |
| 14:51.11 | DJJeff | curse client |
| 14:51.20 | VIad | I got it, but no all addons are on curse |
| 14:51.24 | VIad | some are wowi only |
| 14:51.26 | DJJeff | correct |
| 14:51.50 | VIad | I was planning to make myself a py script to compare those wowi addons I got :P |
| 14:51.53 | DJJeff | wowinterface and curse need to get in bed with each other |
| 14:52.00 | DJJeff | and share addon database |
| 14:52.56 | Lopeppeppy_ | Oh hell no. |
| 14:53.03 | DJJeff | why not? |
| 14:53.16 | DJJeff | would save having to run both clients |
| 14:53.25 | Lopeppeppy_ | I used to be very happy that when some asshole decided to DDOS Curse I could still get something from WoWI. |
| 14:53.26 | DJJeff | or checking by hand both sites |
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| 14:53.45 | Lopeppeppy_ | But then again, I also never ran a client. I went to the site, found my thing, and installed it by hand. I'm old fashioned and like control. |
| 14:54.35 | nevcairiel | thats one weirdo reason |
| 14:54.39 | DJJeff | curse gives stuff away from time to time |
| 14:54.45 | Lopeppeppy_ | Curse is a business, WoWI is a business - who do you suggest pays for the database? |
| 14:55.03 | DJJeff | does wowinterface do give aways? |
| 14:55.08 | VIad | yes |
| 14:55.14 | VIad | sometimes :) |
| 14:55.17 | Amarande | would be nice if wowi had an addon manager app like curse does, though :( |
| 14:55.18 | DJJeff | haha |
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| 14:55.27 | VIad | Amarande: we had minion |
| 14:55.33 | VIad | sadly it got left behind a little :( |
| 14:55.40 | DJJeff | I trashed minion years ago |
| 14:55.43 | Amarande | you left your minion behind? :( |
| 14:55.55 | Dagmar | Come now. Databases are free. |
| 14:55.55 | Lopeppeppy_ | Poor minions. Never fed, often negelected. |
| 14:55.56 | Amarande | VIad, I'm afraid your membership in Warlock Club is hereby revoked, effective immediately |
| 14:56.07 | Dagmar | Capital expenditures don't come out of the usual departmental budget |
| 14:56.12 | Dagmar | Therefore, free. |
| 14:56.37 | Lopeppeppy_ | I know Dagmar, right? And when they break, the repair person is a pengiun from Antarctica, so nobody has to worry about that part either. |
| 14:56.57 | Dagmar | ...and, judging from the quality of our DBAs here, they maintain themselves. |
| 14:57.24 | Amarande | Dagmar: hah, that'd be like saying your WoW sub is your usual departmental budget and your computer hardware is free |
| 14:57.31 | Dagmar | Hell we had a RH guy here yesterday asking us about stuff and he asked "So, what kind of workload are the databases under?" |
| 14:57.39 | VIad | deadly boss mods updater, hmm |
| 14:57.39 | Dagmar | The answer was "That depends on who you're asking." |
| 14:57.50 | Amarande | you know, I would love for the E3 Xeon, Maximus VI board, 16GB DDR3-1600, Silverstone case, and Seasonic PSU I'm getting ready to buy to be free |
| 14:57.59 | Amarande | ... sadly, nope, they actually do cost about $800 all told. :( |
| 14:58.08 | Dagmar | Amarande: For a lot of people, it's Mommy and Daddy's money, so it's free |
| 14:58.46 | Fisker | cries for Lopeppeppy_ |
| 14:58.52 | Dagmar | If you ask the DBAs, the databases are always under incredible load and any sort of downtime would be a huge inconvenience for them and so they're going to need to coordinate with you. |
| 14:59.13 | Dagmar | If you actually look at the machines, they're not doing a whole lot. Maybe 15% utilization. |
| 15:00.08 | DJJeff | my i7 cpu is at 100% usage do I have malware, spyware and a virus? |
| 15:00.18 | Dagmar | You're running Windows, right? |
| 15:00.20 | VIad | check what process is involved |
| 15:00.21 | Amarande | Dagmar: absolute usage isn't the same as relative usage? |
| 15:00.33 | Amarande | Dagmar: here's a hitting-home example |
| 15:00.48 | Amarande | Let's say Passkey was able to borrow the NSA supercomputer in Utah to handle the Dragon Con room orders |
| 15:00.52 | Dagmar | Amarande: No, I'm serious. the "15%" figure is pre-translated into human. The things really aren't doing much, even when they're doing it. |
| 15:00.54 | Amarande | I'm sure it would use barely any of that computer's computing power |
| 15:01.07 | Amarande | ... it's still 40,000 customers seeking rooms, though, and it would be a huge inconvenience if it went down during that time :) |
| 15:01.14 | Dagmar | Mainly, our DBAs are just idiots |
| 15:01.22 | Dagmar | Also, fucking Oracle. |
| 15:01.53 | Amarande | hah. you know, that's actually a kind of creepy thing |
| 15:02.04 | Amarande | they could use that kind of thing as a surveillance method ... given how much computer resources they HAVE in the NSA |
| 15:02.08 | DJJeff | killed thisisnotavirus.exe now its back down to 2% usage |
| 15:02.09 | DJJeff | lol |
| 15:02.17 | Amarande | instead of these covert slipping into other companies' traffic things? |
| 15:02.27 | Dagmar | What, that Oracle might actually be a front for the NSA and all that "wasted" CPU time is actually their distributed private key cracker? |
| 15:02.30 | Workfoz | Oracle is the gift that keeps on giving |
| 15:02.41 | Amarande | set up dummy shell companies (like James Bond's "Universal Exports" that was really MI6, heh) |
| 15:02.55 | DJJeff | Oracle gave us VirtualBox |
| 15:02.58 | Amarande | then sell that computer power as cloud computing services ... only you're actually having the NSA's own machines do your cloud computing for you ... heh |
| 15:03.03 | DJJeff | or was that Sun |
| 15:03.11 | Dagmar | DJJeff: ...and Linux gave us KVM and libvirt |
| 15:03.23 | Dagmar | One of these two things actually scales. |
| 15:04.04 | DJJeff | if only Wine supported DX11 properly |
| 15:04.08 | DJJeff | *sigh* |
| 15:04.36 | Lopeppeppy_ | gives Fisker a pengin for free |
| 15:04.44 | Dagmar | Amarande: We've literally got one mysql server instance here doing more work than any six oracle instances here, and it's practically no-maintenance |
| 15:05.16 | Fisker | what's a pengin? |
| 15:05.19 | Fisker | And why free? |
| 15:05.32 | Dagmar | meanwhile, I'm about to begin resorting to verbal abuse to make it clear to these DBAs that if they can't write a fucking init script that can start things properly, they should let a grown-up admin do it |
| 15:05.36 | Amarande | yeah, pity Linux really isn't a very good desktop OS :( |
| 15:05.45 | Amarande | or rather, the problem is that it IS a pretty good desktop OS, *but* |
| 15:05.57 | Dagmar | If you have to manually start your shit when a system boots, you are not doing your job right |
| 15:06.01 | Amarande | generally speaking your typical geek has a powerful PC, and Linux doesn't have enough application (especially game) support to actually do your hardware justice :| |
| 15:06.41 | DJJeff | turning linux into a nice DDR machine :) |
| 15:06.51 | Amarande | like, what are you going to do with 16GB and a quad core on Linux |
| 15:06.55 | Amarande | except for chess, anyway |
| 15:07.20 | DJJeff | turn linux into a coin operated neo geo machine :) |
| 15:07.46 | DJJeff | non stop metal slug.. ** drools ** |
| 15:08.15 | Dagmar | Amarande: Transcode my blueray discs while I watch them |
| 15:08.31 | DJJeff | whats lame is everyone is worried about the NSA spying on you |
| 15:08.39 | DJJeff | yet its always been your neighbors |
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| 15:08.54 | Dagmar | I agree. It's pointless to worry. The NSA has no problems spying on anyone they want. |
| 15:09.02 | Dagmar | They've got things quite under control on that front. |
| 15:09.19 | DJJeff | even canadians? |
| 15:09.24 | Dagmar | _Everyone_. |
| 15:09.38 | Dagmar | _Especially_ Canadians. |
| 15:11.04 | DJJeff | my isp emailed me that they found out I was torrenting |
| 15:11.19 | DJJeff | even isp's can spy on what people are doing |
| 15:11.29 | DJJeff | its their right to spy on you |
| 15:11.33 | Lopeppeppy_ | This is a penguin. It is free because I can't keep it in a cage. http://the-guiding-light-message-board.529340.n2.nabble.com/file/n3787910/scary%2Bpenguin.jpg |
| 15:11.53 | Dagmar | Your ISP you can tell to fuck off. "Yes, I'm downloading Mandrake Linux. What's yer fuckin' problem?" |
| 15:11.57 | bluspacecow | heh |
| 15:11.58 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2_4blmJydVw |
| 15:12.02 | bluspacecow | look familiar anyone ? |
| 15:12.11 | Dagmar | The NSA can tell your girlfriend what you were _really_ downloading. |
| 15:12.30 | DJJeff | if I even had a girlfriend haha |
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| 15:13.09 | Dagmar | They could also tell your Mom. |
| 15:13.14 | bluspacecow | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadaver_(video_game) |
| 15:13.15 | Dagmar | ...because they know where she is. |
| 15:13.26 | Dagmar | bluspacecow: That's an iPad game isn't it |
| 15:13.32 | DJJeff | almost 30 do not live with my parents |
| 15:13.51 | bluspacecow | reminds a lot of Cadaver |
| 15:14.05 | bluspacecow | in how it's a room by room isometric action adventure |
| 15:14.24 | Dagmar | bluspacecow: So, more pillaging of the 80's but with artsy graphics? |
| 15:14.32 | bluspacecow | could be |
| 15:14.42 | bluspacecow | haven't played either game :P |
| 15:14.49 | DJJeff | still waiting for Ubuntu Touch to work on my tablet :) |
| 15:15.10 | Dagmar | Like more than half hte games out there can be found in freeware archives from 1992 |
| 15:15.29 | DJJeff | https://www.pwnieexpress.com/penetration-testing-vulnerability-assessment-products/sensors/pwn-pad-2014/ |
| 15:15.35 | Dagmar | Fuckers are just putting high res graphics and ads on them and yelling "SO NEW! SHIP IT!" |
| 15:15.40 | DJJeff | ultimate hacker tablet |
| 15:16.16 | Dagmar | ultimate badge of "noobness". |
| 15:16.36 | DJJeff | how so |
| 15:16.38 | bluspacecow | wow |
| 15:16.40 | bluspacecow | so new |
| 15:16.44 | bluspacecow | much original |
| 15:16.50 | bluspacecow | so pretty graphics |
| 15:16.51 | Dagmar | An actual penetration tester would know how to install this shit on a tablet by themselves. |
| 15:16.54 | bluspacecow | sell goot! |
| 15:16.58 | Lopeppeppy_ | *giggle snort* |
| 15:17.06 | bluspacecow | @Dagmar and do it handless |
| 15:17.44 | Dagmar | Hell I'm not even a penetration tester and I own the appropriate external USB devices for bluetooth and wireless skullduggery |
| 15:17.50 | Dagmar | I just hack shit |
| 15:17.56 | DJJeff | oh its just a ubuntu chroot |
| 15:18.01 | Lopeppeppy_ | *giggle snort* |
| 15:18.13 | Dagmar | One of my former bosses, on the other hand, was an idiot, and would certainly think buying one of these would mean he'd know how to use it. |
| 15:18.55 | Dagmar | I'm still undecided about whether I want to put the bluetooth dongle to use on my bike. |
| 15:19.19 | Dagmar | ...and you know, just automatically route any audio it finds on poorly protected bluetooth streams right to the speakers. |
| 15:20.12 | Dagmar | The main problem there is unlike cell phone snooping fromm the 90's, you're pretty much guaranteed the person you're snooping on will be within earshot. ;) |
| 15:22.02 | Dagmar | I am thinking maybe this won't be a good idea, considering I narrowly missed a beating once after airing sommeone's private phone call with their gf to an audience |
| 15:22.09 | Dagmar | Good ambient media tho. :) |
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| 15:41.28 | karl_w_w | i notice it never made the charts over there, but do americans know of wuthering heights the song? |
| 15:47.13 | Dagmar | It's a song? |
| 15:47.23 | karl_w_w | a classic |
| 15:47.40 | Dagmar | You seem to be under the mistaken impression that we still have radio stations here. |
| 15:48.05 | karl_w_w | not sure how that's relevant :P |
| 15:49.23 | bluspacecow | https://twitter.com/bluspacecow/status/435779188251832320/photo/1 |
| 15:49.28 | bluspacecow | oh grabby crabby |
| 15:49.31 | bluspacecow | i wove you |
| 15:51.01 | Dagmar | They should remove that icon. |
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| 15:57.10 | Ackis | People need to get permits to have children :( |
| 15:57.44 | Ackis | last night a 15 year old was banging on my front door... he smelled of booze, his face and clothes were all bloody and when I called his mother she just didn't seem to give a damn |
| 15:59.19 | Humbedooh | :( |
| 15:59.54 | Stanzilla | did you slap him? |
| 16:00.30 | Humbedooh | did you adopt him? |
| 16:00.40 | Ackis | no, I kept him awake until the ambulance got to my house |
| 16:00.54 | Stanzilla | with your fist? |
| 16:00.58 | Humbedooh | now now... |
| 16:04.39 | Ackis | I just can't get it through my head, if something like that happened to me (and it has tbh) my famdamnly wwas there immediatly |
| 16:05.06 | fewyn | some parents shouldn't have children |
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| 16:08.21 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 16:14.25 | Dagmar | Dafuq happened to the kid? |
| 16:14.54 | Dagmar | ...and why was he banging on your door? |
| 16:15.03 | Dagmar | Didn't he understand what being "kicked out" means? |
| 16:16.17 | Ackis | Dagmar: he didn't get kicked out of my house and you don't kick someone out who can't fend for themselves |
| 16:16.43 | Dagmar | heh yeah but you didn't ask him why the hell he was all bloody? |
| 16:16.51 | Dagmar | I mean, when I find battered idiots, I ask questions. |
| 16:16.55 | Ackis | he wasn't very coherent |
| 16:17.04 | Semlar | just murdered someone |
| 16:17.05 | Ackis | my first concern was my safety second concern was his |
| 16:17.11 | Dagmar | So ja think maybe Dad might have caught him drinking and beat him up? |
| 16:17.25 | Ackis | he was a 30 minute drive away from where he lived |
| 16:17.45 | Dagmar | ...maybe there was a wrecked car somewhere that will be reported "stolen" tomorrow |
| 16:18.30 | Ackis | afk meetings :| |
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| 16:22.13 | bluspacecow | http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?t=219725 |
| 16:22.24 | bluspacecow | It's a game about being a school of fish |
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| 16:33.25 | karl_w_w | bluspacecow, aren't they all? |
| 16:33.38 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 16:34.16 | karl_w_w | i wonder why no webpage I visit works the first time |
| 16:35.19 | karl_w_w | i always get unable to connect then i reload and it works straight away |
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| 16:41.54 | karl_w_w | http://static.flickr.com/47/114557119_7347199fd7_m.jpg so yummy! |
| 16:44.30 | Corrodias | i hope there's a fudge flavor |
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| 17:16.31 | kd3 | oh wow, they're actually showing the women's hockey final live |
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| 17:52.33 | Unkle | Station |
| 17:53.07 | Dagmar | no. |
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| 17:54.18 | Lopeppeppy_ | Yes. Yes yes yes! |
| 17:54.47 | Fisker | when will you be normal again Lopeppeppy_ ? |
| 17:54.56 | Lopeppeppy_ | What means... again? |
| 17:55.21 | Fisker | I want you with no underscores :( |
| 17:55.48 | Lopeppeppy_ | Well, at least you want me. *grin* |
| 17:55.59 | Lopeppeppy_ | After I finish lunch I'll restart my client. |
| 17:56.16 | Fisker | oh |
| 17:56.30 | Fisker | I'm sure you're very desirable |
| 17:56.48 | Unkle | Has freenode been extra flaky of late? |
| 17:57.54 | Fisker | yes |
| 17:57.55 | Fisker | super flaky |
| 17:58.05 | Lopeppeppy_ | Thank you for the reassurance, Fisker. |
| 17:58.19 | Fisker | It's what I do |
| 17:58.21 | Fisker | (apparently) |
| 17:58.30 | pompy | Ackis: https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/1654021_10103010187576810_830366468_n.jpg |
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| 18:23.09 | pompy | http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1967345-olympian-kate-hansen-takes-video-of-wolf-roaming-halls-of-sochi-hotel |
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| 18:27.07 | Fisker | \o/ |
| 18:27.22 | Fisker | you're even better than before Lopeppeppy |
| 18:28.04 | Lopeppeppy | But I like my fluffy tail. *tragic sigh* |
| 18:29.11 | Fisker | :( |
| 18:29.27 | Fisker | didn't consider it a fluffy tail :( |
| 18:29.47 | Fisker | nothing I do can make up for this sin |
| 18:30.10 | Guest42879 | hey Fisker http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avaSdC0QOUM |
| 18:33.13 | Lopeppeppy | Fluffy. http://cdn.attackofthecute.com/October-05-2012-02-05-33-qmmmqmq.jpg |
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| 18:37.35 | Fisker | hey Guest42879 |
| 18:37.38 | Fisker | what boat? |
| 18:38.26 | pompy | http://mwb.to/Flash0Day gg |
| 18:38.28 | Maldivia | wow patch jumping 32 builds... they are busy it seems |
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| 18:40.43 | pompy | anyone (ever) go to UMD? https://twitter.com/Malwarebytes/statuses/436555014782197761 |
| 18:41.34 | pompy | "The University is offering one year of free credit monitoring to anyone affected by the breach." |
| 18:43.01 | kd3 | wow at michigan weather... thunder snow then freezing rain |
| 18:43.22 | pompy | kd3: that happened here last week, (add lightning to that list!) |
| 18:44.52 | pompy | soon Arizona will see snow |
| 18:46.50 | kd3 | oop, the third period started |
| 18:46.58 | Ressy | We had thunder snow last week... Possible freezing rain tonight.. |
| 18:47.07 | Ressy | Oh.. Whats really fun are frost quakes tho |
| 18:50.03 | kd3 | 2-0! |
| 18:50.36 | Ressy | booooO! |
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| 18:57.37 | Jamash | I want to emphasize that I have no control over this power, it just happens: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9441366/Hearthstone/Hearthstone_Screenshot_2.20.2014.13.51.46.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9441366/Hearthstone/Hearthstone_Screenshot_2.20.2014.13.52.18.png |
| 18:59.04 | karl_w_w | what just happens? |
| 18:59.51 | Jamash | phat lewts |
| 19:00.24 | Jamash | one pack has a golden epic and a rare, the other has a golden rare and another rare |
| 19:00.42 | Jamash | this is more or less normal for me |
| 19:02.13 | karl_w_w | pfft, I opened a golden legendary once :P |
| 19:02.58 | Jamash | grats |
| 19:03.13 | Jamash | what was it? |
| 19:03.46 | karl_w_w | tinkmaster |
| 19:04.53 | Ackis | this is too amusing http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-awful-stories-you-shouldnt-laugh-at-but-probably-will/ |
| 19:04.54 | karl_w_w | unfortunately the animation isn't that cool |
| 19:06.56 | Stanzilla | kd3: I guess no UI changes in that patch? |
| 19:07.18 | kd3 | just the client executable was changed |
| 19:07.41 | Stanzilla | thought so |
| 19:07.58 | Stanzilla | they changed api stuff though |
| 19:08.33 | kd3 | that's c-side, which I don't have easy access to |
| 19:08.49 | Stanzilla | I know :p |
| 19:09.24 | pompy | "Voss said that what most concerns him is the sophistication of the attack: The hacker or hackers must have had a “very significant understanding” of how the school’s data are designed and protected." |
| 19:09.52 | kd3 | insider attack, or they used plaintext |
| 19:09.59 | kd3 | is leaning towards the latter... |
| 19:11.43 | kd3 | oh bleh, another emergency flash update? |
| 19:12.01 | pompy | kd3: yes http://mwb.to/Flash0Day |
| 19:13.45 | kd3 | welp, 2-1 with 3:26 left |
| 19:17.41 | kd3 | empty netting it? |
| 19:17.49 | kd3 | oh so close |
| 19:19.59 | kd3 | shit |
| 19:20.47 | fewyn | canada just tied it up |
| 19:20.52 | Ressy | damn |
| 19:21.00 | fewyn | 40s to go |
| 19:22.11 | kd3 | if only that empty-net puck was a half-inch to the right... |
| 19:26.05 | fewyn | you can really tell this announcer is canadian |
| 19:26.18 | fewyn | or commentator |
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| 19:36.25 | Primer | aboot |
| 19:37.22 | Primer | WTF PATCH |
| 19:37.36 | Dagmar | Welcome to MMO Club |
| 19:43.25 | Unkle | The first rule of MMO Club is YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT MMO CLUB. |
| 19:43.51 | Dagmar | Third rule is: You must patch. |
| 19:44.07 | Dagmar | ...especially if it's your first time installing. |
| 19:44.25 | Unkle | lunch time. |
| 19:44.40 | Cairenn | and patch, and patch, and patch, ... |
| 19:44.50 | MysticalOS | Primer, patch to revert some bad |
| 19:44.57 | MysticalOS | seems to completely revert the BS -realm change |
| 19:45.04 | Cairenn | (if it's your first time installing, or if you haven't played in a long time) |
| 19:45.20 | MysticalOS | or so I'm told by a few |
| 19:51.36 | kd3 | wow |
| 19:51.39 | kd3 | what a way to end it |
| 19:51.40 | fewyn | canada won |
| 19:51.43 | fewyn | gg |
| 19:51.45 | fewyn | was a good game |
| 19:51.50 | fewyn | i don't know anything about hockey tho |
| 19:51.54 | Primer | SPOILERS! |
| 19:52.16 | fewyn | stop living in the past |
| 20:03.25 | Alram | there's a thing like spoilers in sports? |
| 20:03.26 | Alram | wtf |
| 20:03.59 | Dagmar | "Fixing". ;) |
| 20:04.52 | Primer | of course? |
| 20:05.13 | Primer | I routinely record football matches and expect to not know the score when I watch them |
| 20:05.23 | fewyn | this is the olympics tho |
| 20:05.29 | Primer | Go Arsenal, btw! |
| 20:05.31 | fewyn | this is like one of the few events being live broadcast |
| 20:05.39 | fewyn | Go <rival team>! |
| 20:06.11 | Dagmar | Broadcast latency arbitrage. :) |
| 20:06.48 | fewyn | tell your broadcast station to stop failing so hard |
| 20:07.34 | Dagmar | My grandfather used to tease my uncle by declaring the outcome of passes and so forth during football games |
| 20:08.00 | Dagmar | He'd be listening to the radio coverage (which was nearly instant) and they'd be both watching the TV, which was 7 seconds delayed |
| 20:08.12 | Dagmar | Took my dad's brother _years_ to catch on |
| 20:09.01 | Dagmar | Practically as soon as the guy kicked the ball for a field goal, my grandfather would call it, and he'd _always_ be right. |
| 20:09.43 | Dagmar | (which was, of course, because he'd alredy heard the outcome) |
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| 20:18.23 | Primer | Anyone know of a battleground addon that will compare average HP of teams? |
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| 20:40.53 | karl_w_w | never heard of such a thing Primer |
| 20:40.56 | karl_w_w | sounds pretty useless |
| 20:41.07 | Primer | why? |
| 20:41.19 | Primer | I click on every person in battleground targets to assess their HP |
| 20:41.26 | karl_w_w | why? |
| 20:41.37 | Primer | and get a gage on if we have a chance to win or not |
| 20:42.14 | karl_w_w | those 2 things are almost completely unrelated |
| 20:43.06 | Primer | not true |
| 20:44.02 | Primer | In my experience, after my HP assessment, I'm usually correct about the team that will win |
| 20:44.35 | karl_w_w | I bet you'd win more of them if you spent less time worrying about HP :P |
| 20:44.42 | Primer | uhhh |
| 20:44.45 | karl_w_w | and chances are you're confusing cause with effect |
| 20:44.55 | Primer | there are 2 minutes to make this assessment where I'm just standing around waiting |
| 20:45.04 | Primer | chances are you don't pvp |
| 20:45.09 | karl_w_w | HAHA |
| 20:45.13 | karl_w_w | okay then |
| 20:45.34 | Primer | I'm not talking about rated bgs |
| 20:45.39 | Primer | just normal bgs |
| 20:45.59 | Primer | such an assessment would be futile in a rated, unless the other team is a yolo |
| 20:46.03 | karl_w_w | the armory is brokened |
| 20:46.19 | kd3 | it has been since tuesday |
| 20:46.31 | karl_w_w | regardless, I have thousands of BGs under my belt |
| 20:47.01 | Primer | You must play horde |
| 20:47.20 | Primer | I, unfortunately in regards to bgs, play alliance |
| 20:47.41 | Primer | so far today I've lost every bg I've joined. About 5 in so far |
| 20:48.30 | Primer | in every case we've been outgeared, with people in quest greens and 300k HP |
| 20:49.01 | Primer | I don't care how much skill you have, if you're in crap gear, you're doing 5k DPS |
| 20:49.19 | Primer | against a player in full grievous |
| 20:52.14 | Primer | sigh...at this rate it might be faster to grind heroics for JP, then convert that to honor |
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| 20:59.49 | kd3 | wow iowa; http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2014/02/20/northwood-being-evacuated-due-to-fire/article?nclick_check=1 |
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| 21:06.50 | kd3 | I don't use oqueue, but by looking at the name of the channel, I assume it's what oqueue uses for intra-realm chat? |
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| 21:35.38 | kd3 | maybe we'll have more luck tomorrow: http://i.imgur.com/JhMU6mW.jpg |
| 21:38.49 | Ressy | not gonna happen kd3. ;) |
| 21:38.53 | A-KO | wut? |
| 21:39.00 | A-KO | lol |
| 21:39.37 | A-KO | Canadians and ice hockey |
| 21:39.39 | Ressy | apparently obama & harper have a case of beer on both mens & womens games. |
| 21:39.45 | A-KO | they come out of the womb on ice skates |
| 21:39.48 | Ressy | damn right A-KO. |
| 21:40.10 | A-KO | lol |
| 21:40.10 | Ressy | Came from behind on 2-0, and won |
| 21:41.36 | A-KO | omw home |
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| 21:45.44 | kd3 | I'm kinda surprised... figured today would be a national holiday in canada. I expect tomorrow will be |
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| 22:32.57 | Maldivia | holy alphabet... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvLmcRZte78 |
| 22:33.23 | Cairenn | wheee, net split! |
| 22:34.08 | Cairenn | nice, Maldivia! |
| 22:34.23 | Seerah | wheee, tornado warning! |
| 22:34.52 | Neffi | he pronounced calzone incorrectly |
| 22:35.11 | Seerah | ah, they just cancelled it. |
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| 22:36.09 | Neffi | that was good though, Maldivia |
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| 22:36.40 | Maldivia | naah... it's insane :P |
| 22:37.23 | Maldivia | I'm glad he subbed it, because towards the end (ok ok, about 2/3 of it) it gets hard to actually hear :) |
| 22:38.20 | Neffi | damn now I want a calzone |
| 22:40.15 | Maldivia | Neffi: and why do you say he pronounced calzone incorrectly? |
| 22:41.06 | Neffi | There's two ways to pronounce it, and neither have a long E at the end |
| 22:41.24 | Maldivia | from dictionary.com: kal-zoh-ney, -nee, -zohn |
| 22:41.55 | Neffi | kal-zōn or kal-zōne where the e is sort of like a Canadian 'eh' but much more subtle |
| 22:43.02 | Neffi | My family's Italian and I live in NY. I know the pronunciation better than an Americanized dictionary |
| 22:43.53 | Neffi | If you went into a local pizzeria and asked for a "kalzōnee" they'd look at you like you're from another planet |
| 22:44.55 | Stanzilla | Maldivia: this one's cool too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32p8d6OudgU&feature=share |
| 22:45.35 | Maldivia | Neffi: how an Italian would pronounce it, and what the right way in English, isn't always the same :P |
| 22:46.22 | Maldivia | or "right way" |
| 22:46.23 | Seerah | The "english" way is without the "ee" at the end, too. :P |
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| 22:47.18 | Seerah | I have no idea where dictionary.com got that second pronounciation from >< |
| 22:49.02 | Maldivia | probably differs from state to state as well |
| 22:49.09 | Maldivia | like soo many other words in the US |
| 22:49.29 | Neffi | That all depends on derivation |
| 22:50.29 | Neffi | The word definitely comes from Italian, so I'm gonna trust the American Italians' pronounciation |
| 22:50.42 | Seerah | ^^ |
| 22:51.25 | Seerah | If it were going to have an "ee" sound at the end, it'd be spelled "calzoni" |
| 22:51.30 | Neffi | aye |
| 22:51.38 | Maldivia | but that would be the plural form, right? |
| 22:51.50 | Seerah | making it calzonee just hurts my brain like when I hear eye-talian |
| 22:52.12 | Neffi | To be fair, "kalzōn" IS the Americanized pronunciation. The version with the little bit of "ay" at the end is the more Italian pronunciation |
| 22:52.31 | Seerah | due calzoni, si si |
| 22:53.03 | Neffi | At least it's not mozerella or ricota. NOBODY outside of NY ever pronounces those correctly ;) |
| 22:53.19 | Stanzilla | I just did it with an italian accent |
| 22:53.21 | Stanzilla | did you hear it? |
| 22:53.36 | Seerah | my guess is the last syllable of calzone got dropped the same way that mozzarella is pronounced by Italians ;) |
| 22:53.47 | Neffi | moo-tse-rell with a very hard R; and ri-gaught with a very soft I and hard G (augh as in "aww") |
| 22:54.16 | Stanzilla | that looks wrong |
| 22:54.28 | Neffi | Ricotta pronounced with a C/K sound annoys the fuck out of me |
| 22:54.32 | Seerah | not *quite* "oo", and not a hard 'r', but flipped |
| 22:54.49 | Neffi | yeah, it's not quite "oo" but close |
| 22:54.56 | Seerah | I grew up in Michigan, and my grandma makes fun of me every time I go visit her in NY >< |
| 22:55.05 | Neffi | When I say hard "r" I mean the D-sounding R that Italians use |
| 22:55.11 | Seerah | rickahtah |
| 22:55.23 | Neffi | Which part of Michigan? |
| 22:55.25 | Seerah | flipped r |
| 22:55.33 | Seerah | Lansing/Traverse City |
| 22:55.35 | Neffi | I lived in Macomb county for some of my teenage years |
| 22:55.47 | Neffi | So hard to find good Italian food there =) |
| 22:56.10 | Seerah | at least my grandma taught my mom everything, and they would bring stuff with them when they visited :) |
| 22:56.41 | Neffi | Yeah, I was there with my mom so we had decent ITalian food. But it's hard to find the right cheeses and the canned tomatos we were used to |
| 22:56.49 | Seerah | my first date with my husband, he took me to a place called The Spaghetti Factory. They did not give me a spoon to twirl my spaghetti. I was not impressed :p |
| 22:56.56 | Neffi | And nothing close to the right tasting spices |
| 22:57.24 | Neffi | Spoon to twirl your spaghetti? I'm not impressed |
| 22:57.41 | Seerah | you don't use a spoon?!? |
| 22:57.45 | Stanzilla | wtf Neffi |
| 22:57.47 | Neffi | Stab it with a fork, twirl the fork, and pick up your blob of noodles |
| 22:57.48 | Stanzilla | ghetto manners! |
| 22:58.11 | kd3 | I don't use a spoon for noodles... it doesn't make sense to me |
| 22:58.19 | Maldivia | spaghetti without a spoon, is like eating soup with a fork |
| 22:58.21 | Stanzilla | it's just tradition |
| 22:58.43 | Neffi | In my family the primary utensils used with pasta are fork and bread |
| 22:58.54 | Neffi | If your fork isn't sufficient, scoop in onto some buttered bread and enjoy |
| 22:59.14 | Neffi | But only if it's good crunchy Italian bread, which doesn't exist at all in Michigan. |
| 22:59.24 | Maldivia | bake it yourself?! |
| 22:59.53 | Neffi | Well you don't make that sort of bread in a standard oven. Plus, the water.. it messes up the dough |
| 23:00.38 | Maldivia | then fire up the grill, and add a stone plate to bake it on :) |
| 23:00.49 | Neffi | Not really the same |
| 23:01.17 | Neffi | Baking proper Italian bread seems to be a guarded secret. I have no idea how the best bakeries around here manage it. |
| 23:01.18 | Maldivia | but you can make some mighty fine bread that way! |
| 23:01.43 | Seerah | I've been meaning to try some bread in my new cast iron dutch oven.... |
| 23:06.45 | kd3 | well, that'll slow down warlords development some... https://twitter.com/Celestalon/status/436634618469810176 |
| 23:07.03 | Gethe_ | that would do it |
| 23:07.34 | Dagmar | Heatpipes... very important to mount the right way. |
| 23:08.21 | Amarande | heh, Michigan ... the state where apparently it may technically be illegal to develop or distribute major web browsers ROFL |
| 23:08.35 | Amarande | at least if you interpret their cybercrime statutes literally :) |
| 23:08.43 | Gethe | he says its the SATA power cables |
| 23:09.20 | Amarande | There was a comment on Ars about the @N affair, which mentions this little gem from Michigan's cybercrime law |
| 23:09.22 | Amarande | "(2)inserting, attaching, or knowingly creating the opportunity for an unknowing and unwanted insertion or attachment of a set of instructions or program into a computer" |
| 23:09.39 | Amarande | yeah, guess you can't disitribute Firefox, IE, Chrome, or most other browsers in the Mitten LOL |
| 23:09.54 | Neffi | Then you probably can't distribute any software |
| 23:10.05 | Amarande | hah, exactly |
| 23:10.06 | kd3 | even then... those don't carry enough juice to burn. power surge? compromised insulation? |
| 23:10.08 | Neffi | Your image viewer might have a buffer overflow bug |
| 23:10.17 | Neffi | Anything that listens to a port might have any sort of bug |
| 23:10.18 | Gethe | http://t.co/kJaYFs79Z8 |
| 23:10.24 | Amarande | Hey, combine that with the US Copyright code of 1976 and we won't ever have to worry about computer software security again! :) |
| 23:10.35 | kd3 | oh wow |
| 23:10.40 | Ressy | holy shit that picture |
| 23:11.10 | Amarande | Neffi: plus, if you're savvy enough to program any sort of major software package, you should be expected to be savvy enough to know that software *always* has security holes from time to time |
| 23:11.17 | Amarande | which means yeah, you *are* "knowingly" creating the opportunity LOL |
| 23:11.24 | Gethe | idk what might have caused that but damn |
| 23:11.37 | Neffi | Oh, so that's why everyone hiers incompetent programmers. Legal defense |
| 23:11.59 | Amarande | Gethe: heh, wow. that's pretty epic |
| 23:12.31 | kd3 | looks like it's the yellow cable that's pulled out... that's the 12v line |
| 23:12.37 | Neffi | I'm gonna go out on a limb and say his PSU is pretty shitty. Because it should have shut down |
| 23:12.57 | Ressy | Blizzard has good computers there. |
| 23:13.16 | Amarande | As for the copyright code of '76, they apparently bungled up the wording |
| 23:13.30 | Amarande | so technically, loading a program off storage into RAM was considered a protected form of copying under the law :) |
| 23:13.38 | Amarande | ... and it took them about 2-3 years to fix it |
| 23:13.41 | Neffi | In my experience computer manufacturers don't often shell out for high-end "auxillary" components like top-notch PSUs. They go for what's sufficient |
| 23:13.50 | Neffi | I doubt Blizzard builds their own machines |
| 23:13.56 | Amarande | Neffi: heh, and they think of PSUs as "auxiliary" |
| 23:14.04 | Amarande | ROFL |
| 23:14.06 | Neffi | that's the mindset anyway |
| 23:14.14 | Amarande | like, seriously ... one of the basic tenets we learn from places like ##hardware and such |
| 23:14.23 | Ressy | Neffi: They don't. They're all professional builds with decent parts. |
| 23:14.37 | Amarande | is that the PSU is not auxiliary, it's the very beating heart of your computer, arguably even more so than the CPU and mobo |
| 23:14.47 | Neffi | Honestly the PSU is one thing I refuse to ever skimp on. If I can't afford a good PSU for my new build, I hold off on the whole build until I can. They handle lots of power and are responsible for pushing it into expensive components |
| 23:14.52 | Ressy | Last I heard, Tech Support was all using u7s |
| 23:14.54 | Ressy | i7s* |
| 23:15.07 | Amarande | After all, without the power supply, you don't have a computer |
| 23:15.16 | Amarande | you just have an extensive hunk of metal and plastic that does nothing |
| 23:17.35 | Amarande | hm, what does that remind me of |
| 23:17.48 | Amarande | oh, why dark ages occur, and why we might get another set of dark ages after modern society collapses at some point |
| 23:18.44 | Amarande | because without the infrastructure, your stereotypical hillbilly farmers are going to still have a reasonable shot at survival, because their skills are directly on the "plant seeds in ground, wait for grow, eat" level, and thus they'll probably survive and flood the world with such a focus regarding understanding |
| 23:19.17 | Amarande | meanwhile, the knowledged? our skills will be useful for ... hmm ... exactly what will these odd looking pieces of plastic and metal with connector pins and little cylindrical pieces and all that be good for? LOL |
| 23:19.25 | Amarande | I guess some parts are sharp enough you could use them to hunt with, but ... |
| 23:24.02 | Amarande | Ressy: wow, you'd think they would be on Xeon E3's |
| 23:24.21 | Amarande | though I guess the IGP on the i7 saves money |
| 23:24.22 | kd3 | since when does tech support need that kind of hardware? |
| 23:24.29 | Ressy | I haven't heard about their gear in the last 2 years or so. |
| 23:24.39 | Amarande | kd3: the two lowest rungs of Xeon E3 that have hyperthreading are *cheaper than* the i7 |
| 23:24.46 | Ressy | Kd3: When they get to test all their games on their work computers. :P |
| 23:24.57 | Amarande | E3-1240 V3 is about $30-40 cheaper than the i7, and the E3-1230 V3 costs little more than the top end i5 |
| 23:25.20 | Amarande | and the only thing of significant note you lose for that price break is the integrated GPU |
| 23:25.46 | Amarande | (which may or may not be useful, depending what the graphics standards for game testing machines are) |
| 23:26.17 | Amarande | essentially, that's what the E3-1240 V3 is: an i7-4770 with ECC RAM capability, no IGP, and a $30-40 or so lower price tag |
| 23:26.22 | Neffi | per core speed >>>>> hyperthreading for games |
| 23:26.36 | Amarande | and I would expect that large businesses like Blizz would want the per unit savings if possible |
| 23:27.21 | Amarande | Neffi: she said they have i7's, so we're talking of HT CPUs in any event |
| 23:29.27 | Amarande | kd3: when you hear about Xeons you're probably thinking more like the E5 series, which are LGA2011 and for the most part brutally expensive, far too much so for gaming/support machines unless you're a super rich geek (in which case the E5-2687W V2 may be worth consideration) |
| 23:29.44 | Amarande | the E3 series uses the same LGA115x sockets as the consumer line |
| 23:30.35 | Amarande | and mostly costs in the same price range as the consumer line (except for the E3-1280, which is $600+) |
| 23:32.14 | Amarande | and is compatible with the same motherboards (although if you want ECC memory you'll need a C226 board, which is in the sort of price range with the luxury gamer boards) |
| 23:32.19 | nevcairiel | note that the xeon has turbo mode one lower |
| 23:32.23 | nevcairiel | +a |
| 23:32.28 | Amarande | nevcairiel: yeah, I did notice that |
| 23:32.36 | Amarande | I pondered why, I wonder if it has to do with the heatsink |
| 23:32.50 | Amarande | because I've heard tales of i7's not quite being able to go full tilt indefinitely on the stock heatsink, primarily |
| 23:33.17 | Amarande | however, if a Xeon overheated under extended full load with its stock heatsink, Intel would catch absolute HELL I'm sure |
| 23:33.35 | nevcairiel | cpus of todays generation don't overheat |
| 23:33.37 | nevcairiel | they clock down |
| 23:33.45 | Amarande | well, yeah, thermal throttle |
| 23:33.56 | Amarande | but still, loss of performance full load is absolutely unacceptable in many Xeon use cases, I'm sure |
| 23:33.57 | nevcairiel | first step is that it disables the turbo mode |
| 23:34.09 | nevcairiel | which Intel doesn't guarantee 100% of the time anyway |
| 23:34.12 | Amarande | whereas consumers are probably expected to just see it as a minor inconvenience |
| 23:34.38 | nevcairiel | actual serious-business machines wouldnt use stock heatsinks anyway :p |
| 23:34.50 | Amarande | (hell if I know why, a significant enough thermal throttle would probably register much like a lagspike, and whatever the cause, if you get a lagspike and wipe the raid, you're gonna be pissed. LOL) |
| 23:35.46 | Amarande | hell, I wouldn't be surprised if wiping the raid is an event that regularly pisses off more people than a small business server hiccup does :) |
| 23:36.08 | Amarande | given that a 25-man raid group is probably bigger than the vast majority of businesses, in terms of number of people per entity |
| 23:36.33 | Amarande | (even a 10-man raid group might be, actually) |
| 23:36.58 | Amarande | nevcairiel: I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them do |
| 23:37.18 | Amarande | I mean, if the stock heatsink wasn't acceptable for the expected use scenario, would they even offer one in the box? |
| 23:37.32 | Amarande | (not all Intel CPUs do, e.g. none of the LGA2011 based ones for instance even come with a stock fan at all) |
| 23:38.38 | Amarande | mind you, cpu reliability these days is pretty much ironclad unless you abuse them or you get a demon core |
| 23:38.48 | Amarande | these days it's the mobo and RAM you have to watch out for heh |
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| 23:41.54 | Amarande | heh did I ever mention the Demon Core story? For all my hardware problems that I've had, I'm just effing glad I never had THAT one. :) |
| 23:43.42 | Corrodias | is that the criticality event that killed at least one researcher? |
| 23:45.09 | Amarande | Corrodias: well, that's the original Demon Core |
| 23:45.31 | Amarande | this one is more benign, but I'm sure it's just as baldness inducing a thing to have happen as radiation exposure LOL |
| 23:45.49 | Corrodias | i haven't heard the story :) |
| 23:46.09 | Amarande | apparently, this guy excitedly bought his components for his nice new Intel rig, set it up, started it up, and the mobo died, apparently it shorted out. |
| 23:46.15 | Amarande | So ... he got another mobo. It shorted out. |
| 23:46.36 | Amarande | So he got ANOTHER mobo, and at this point he notes as he's setting it up and starting it up for the first time that it's already beginning to short out for some reason, almost right away |
| 23:46.54 | Amarande | apparently, he had a CPU which would somehow electrically fault every single mobo it was inserted in :| |
| 23:47.18 | nevcairiel | just replacing it after the second short is already stupidity, one has to consider other factors at that point :p |
| 23:47.56 | Amarande | yeah, but how often do you expect the CPU to be at fault |
| 23:48.06 | Amarande | usually you'd think it was the power supply or that you forgot to put in standoffs or something like that |
| 23:48.19 | Corrodias | not a common problem, no. and it could be anything, not just the CPU! :o |
| 23:48.28 | Corrodias | well... anything asi n the memory, i guess |
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