| 00:06.57 | karl_w_w | why in the name of fuckery is my mouse slower in wow than on my desktop |
| 00:12.59 | Semlar-Laptop | custom profiles in your mouse software? |
| 00:13.28 | Gnarfoz | ^ |
| 00:14.50 | Kesava | or because you've changed mouse sensitivity in wow |
| 00:15.10 | karl_w_w | no profile, and im using hardware cursor in wow |
| 00:15.24 | Kesava | that's not what hardware cursor means |
| 00:15.27 | Gnarfoz | "hardware cursor" is unrelated |
| 00:16.25 | karl_w_w | oh i assumed you needed to turn that off to be able to change mouse speed in wow |
| 00:16.36 | karl_w_w | otherwise i dont see any way to do so |
| 00:16.48 | Kesava | nope, in wow's case it's to do with rendering the cursor rather than using raw input |
| 00:16.58 | Kesava | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:17.59 | karl_w_w | still the same |
| 00:18.13 | Kesava | well in that case i have no idea |
| 00:18.34 | karl_w_w | the difference is only small anyway |
| 00:18.45 | karl_w_w | just very strange |
| 00:19.12 | Torhal | Amarande: Eh, some people are mentally challenged. No reason that should upset me aside from the involuntary eyeroll. |
| 00:19.20 | Kesava | you could just increase mousespeed to something lik 1.02 or whatever then |
| 00:19.22 | Kesava | to offset it |
| 00:19.25 | Kesava | like( |
| 00:19.29 | Kesava | i can't type. |
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| 00:25.28 | karl_w_w | Cairenn will always be number 1 in my eyes |
| 00:25.36 | Cairenn | awwwww |
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| 00:42.37 | bluspacecow | @fisker https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/v/t34/1947647_10151887706770443_998270254_n.jpg?oh=b18187416689fc62595849ed93bccdc0&oe=53067D93&__gda__=1392924765_31d31fe70570ae59ef4a06eda0290fc9 |
| 00:43.50 | bluspacecow | http://io9.com/the-24-most-embarrassing-dungeons-dragons-character-1524448977?utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_facebook&utm_source=io9_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow |
| 00:44.59 | karl_w_w | are you a fighting man bluspacecow? |
| 00:45.15 | bluspacecow | no im a magical eskimo |
| 00:47.54 | Sintacks | did they realy make it so server shows up always now ... |
| 00:47.56 | karl_w_w | "In one of the best examples of TSR making things way too complicated" I love unexplained acronyms |
| 00:48.07 | karl_w_w | you get to make up your own words |
| 00:48.17 | bluspacecow | Toon Soon Richard |
| 00:48.34 | bluspacecow | a gigoglo that fails everytime! |
| 00:50.05 | Amarande | But hey, that famous bard Jon Lennyn told me a peasant hero was something to be! :) |
| 00:54.12 | karl_w_w | http://www.twitch.tv/twitchplayspokemon holy crap |
| 00:54.55 | karl_w_w | I've never seen more than 30k viewers before |
| 00:55.56 | karl_w_w | it's so many viewers that it seems to be break chat |
| 00:56.00 | karl_w_w | on OTHER channels |
| 00:56.29 | kd3 | 110k? that's the highest I've seen it |
| 00:56.48 | kd3 | https://twitter.com/TwitchTVSupport/status/435893335417311232 |
| 00:56.56 | karl_w_w | ooh, I have 25% off Broken Age |
| 00:57.19 | karl_w_w | it was 120k a minute ago |
| 00:58.06 | kd3 | oh, they finally got out of team rocket's mess |
| 00:59.39 | jleclanche | kd3: yeah with voting :/ |
| 00:59.49 | jleclanche | kd3: they just lost against giovanni in anarchy though |
| 01:00.05 | jleclanche | that was fun to watch. i was in bed for 40 mins unable to sleep and i woke up to just tune into that |
| 01:00.32 | jleclanche | also kd3 they are above league of legends :D |
| 01:00.38 | kd3 | hahaha |
| 01:07.28 | Sintacks | is the armory broken :| |
| 01:08.41 | Gnarfoz | yes/no/maybe |
| 01:08.45 | Gnarfoz | elaborate? |
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| 01:09.02 | Semlar | i vote yes |
| 01:09.39 | Semlar | it just says Oops Something Is Broken trying to look up my character |
| 01:11.09 | karl_w_w | surely you can't be serious |
| 01:13.57 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:14.11 | karl_w_w | nobody's gonna finish off the joke? |
| 01:14.15 | kd3 | firebug is saying 500 internal server errror |
| 01:14.19 | karl_w_w | come on I set it up just right |
| 01:14.22 | kd3 | and don't call me shirley |
| 01:14.31 | karl_w_w | thank god |
| 01:14.45 | Semlar | i don't get it |
| 01:15.33 | kd3 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A5t5_O8hdA |
| 01:16.37 | karl_w_w | not even the best scene in the movie, this is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JANcVXHqNTI |
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| 01:28.25 | pompy | http://www.mymemory.co.uk/USB-Flash-Drives/Kingston/Kingston-Technology-1TB-USB-3.0-DataTraveler-HyperX-Predator-Flash-Drive---240MB_s gimmeh |
| 01:30.04 | Neffi | dat price |
| 01:30.05 | Amarande | hm |
| 01:30.16 | Amarande | it pops up my mage just fine and I haven't even had a wow subscription active since November |
| 01:30.23 | Amarande | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/ysera/Kiruna/simple |
| 01:31.04 | pompy | Neffi: indeed |
| 01:31.43 | Neffi | In USD that cost more than my current computer |
| 01:32.08 | Neffi | And my computer wasn't exactly cheap |
| 01:32.26 | kd3 | good grief |
| 01:32.26 | Neffi | x220 w/ CPU upgrade, IPS screen upgrade and battery upgrade |
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| 01:34.46 | Amarande | good grief ... 1250 USD |
| 01:34.56 | kd3 | ah, gah, dungeon music |
| 01:35.11 | Amarande | that's more than my 770 cost plus the pile of Xeon components I have planned to buy |
| 01:42.03 | Gnarfoz | the sexy kind? |
| 01:43.28 | Semlar | upgrades neffi |
| 01:45.32 | Neffi | Why are you buying Xeons? |
| 01:45.37 | Neffi | Haven't we been through this? |
| 01:46.06 | Neffi | shorts out. |
| 01:46.10 | Neffi | good job Semlar |
| 01:46.15 | Semlar | i like shorts |
| 01:46.19 | Semlar | they're comfy and easy to wear |
| 01:49.15 | Neffi | oh god i broke skyrim |
| 01:51.00 | Amarande | ... how did you break skyrim |
| 01:51.11 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:51.37 | Neffi | Amarande: messing around with the configuration for memory patchers |
| 01:51.44 | karl_w_w | damn why is the australia dota 2 server always full of russians |
| 01:51.44 | Neffi | SSME + ENBoost |
| 01:52.01 | Neffi | Semlar: I saw that earlier. I'm not sure |
| 01:52.01 | karl_w_w | we're not the closest server, or even the 2nd closest server to them |
| 01:52.27 | Neffi | The fact that it reports a string as the source is weird. Possibly it means there are routines injected into the environment that aren't in FrameXML |
| 01:52.41 | Neffi | or are in framexml and loadstring'd in for some reason |
| 01:53.23 | Arrowmaster | wow http://www.irrationalgames.com/ |
| 02:07.25 | MysticalOS | ok, so did anyone else have to fix their addon syncing with Ambiguate(sender, "none")? |
| 02:08.23 | Semlar | i saw a post about SendAddonMessage requiring a realm even to same-realm players |
| 02:10.33 | MysticalOS | no |
| 02:10.35 | MysticalOS | send doesn't require it |
| 02:10.40 | MysticalOS | it comes out same either way |
| 02:10.58 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:10.59 | MysticalOS | but receive, always adds realm to sender |
| 02:11.06 | MysticalOS | yeah i tested it |
| 02:11.11 | MysticalOS | i send a ton of syncs, with and without realmname |
| 02:11.15 | MysticalOS | they alld elivered |
| 02:11.37 | MysticalOS | but incoming syncs will now act up if you don't Ambiguate(sender, "none") them |
| 02:12.39 | Mr_Rabies | does the new game menu microbutton have a texture problem? i see the familiar "no texture" green for a pixel line underneath |
| 02:13.06 | kd3 | that's the new latency indicator. it'll change colors if you're more laggy |
| 02:13.14 | Mr_Rabies | ah |
| 02:13.41 | Mr_Rabies | i don't have OCD but that would totally make someone with OCD freak |
| 02:14.31 | Kesava | i suspect i'd hate it |
| 02:14.38 | Kesava | but i have them all hidden so that's ok |
| 02:20.05 | Mr_Rabies | mine are like 5% transparency until i mouseover the area i have them in |
| 02:20.13 | Mr_Rabies | same with stances/forms/etc |
| 02:23.32 | Sintacks | maodgmasdfiopjasdgasdfip |
| 02:24.32 | Neffi | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:28.50 | bluspacecow | *pats* |
| 02:32.02 | Sintacks | so the sendaddonmessage thing only matters for whisper messages right |
| 02:32.13 | Sintacks | channel ones are fine. raid/guild/etc |
| 02:32.17 | Sintacks | or what |
| 02:32.57 | MysticalOS | to be honest, not sure, sender = Ambiguate(sender, "none") either way won't hurt being put in CHAT_MSG_ADDON for all channels |
| 02:33.07 | MysticalOS | cause the function already strips realm names only where apporpriate |
| 02:33.34 | MysticalOS | it'll ensure sender keeps realm name for crz, connected, but stripped for own realm |
| 02:34.54 | MysticalOS | i wonder if ace comm will need an update |
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| 02:51.31 | Ressy | I guess Sintacks' cat makes it a habit of walking across the keyboard? |
| 02:55.02 | bluspacecow | meow meow |
| 02:55.28 | Semlar | cows don't meow.. |
| 02:55.40 | Kesava | so, DBM |
| 02:55.47 | Kesava | why on earth doesn't it have profiles |
| 02:56.03 | Kesava | and why does it assume you want a different setup on every character |
| 02:56.03 | Kesava | argh |
| 02:56.36 | Semlar | some people just want to watch the world burn |
| 02:57.58 | Ressy | Weird error popped up while I was on a FP: http://pastebin.com/dNEtrMN0 |
| 02:58.22 | Semlar | yeah i think they broke something |
| 02:58.47 | Semlar | i had the same error just flying around |
| 02:58.57 | karl_w_w | niceeee |
| 02:59.11 | karl_w_w | the lego movie not released here until the 3rd of april |
| 02:59.32 | karl_w_w | I guess it takes a while to load all those film reels onto container ships |
| 03:00.11 | karl_w_w | and then they have to get past the kraken and fend off davy jones |
| 03:00.17 | karl_w_w | oh shit wait, that's not how it works? |
| 03:00.28 | bluspacecow | ha ha getting serios now |
| 03:00.29 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/11764946800?page=4#70 |
| 03:03.07 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:04.34 | Kesava | til the addon policy is irrelevant |
| 03:04.52 | Semlar | IRRELEPHANT |
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| 03:05.39 | Ressy | the pet/mount binary hotfix went live |
| 03:05.56 | Sintacks | yay. |
| 03:06.08 | Sintacks | LootCouncilLite is broken again |
| 03:06.12 | Sintacks | because of sendaddonmessage |
| 03:06.19 | Corrodias | "The addon policy clearly states that addon creators don't own the rights to what they do" -- when did this happen? |
| 03:06.33 | kd3 | it didn't? |
| 03:06.38 | Corrodias | good |
| 03:06.51 | kd3 | someone who watched too many lawyer shows tried to interpret something, and got it wrong |
| 03:07.08 | bluspacecow | ..... |
| 03:07.10 | bluspacecow | wat |
| 03:07.34 | kd3 | in the thread semlar posted |
| 03:09.06 | Kesava | 788 KB of code for oqueue.lua. |
| 03:09.13 | Kesava | i'd be interested to know what tiny actually does. |
| 03:09.27 | Sintacks | do what |
| 03:09.46 | Kesava | as in for a living |
| 03:10.24 | Kesava | also why exactly he feels the need to check your target and force you to emote if its tiny |
| 03:10.30 | Kesava | agh |
| 03:11.13 | Dagmar | Tradition. |
| 03:11.23 | Dagmar | Thott's addon would do that during beta |
| 03:11.50 | Dagmar | Generally accompanied by the user saying to themselves "Holy shit that's actually Thott!" |
| 03:12.02 | Dagmar | He would /salute back |
| 03:13.00 | Kesava | well. |
| 03:13.34 | Semlar | i wrote most of an OQ replacement a few months ago |
| 03:13.38 | Semlar | it's about 40kb |
| 03:13.49 | Kesava | i can imagine |
| 03:14.31 | Dagmar | I miss the /page command. |
| 03:14.31 | Semlar | instead of the bnet system it uses the raid browser, but i realized the raid browser is restricted to only a handful of servers |
| 03:15.05 | Semlar | it's still probably useful as i can't imagine the mesh communicates all that well |
| 03:20.17 | Sintacks | what the fuck are you talking about, Kesava |
| 03:20.49 | Kesava | well i don't mean in a "that's sad" kind of way |
| 03:20.56 | Kesava | i mean does he work in software engineering |
| 03:21.04 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure he's 15 |
| 03:21.18 | Kesava | certainly seems it |
| 03:21.27 | Dagmar | What emote is it, by he way? |
| 03:21.29 | Semlar | if his posts are any indication |
| 03:22.08 | Kesava | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:22.19 | Kesava | though it also plays the applause sound |
| 03:22.27 | Dagmar | That's reaosnable |
| 03:22.47 | Semlar | oh is that why it just randomly hailed nothing when i was using oq |
| 03:22.52 | Dagmar | If it was like "/emote touches themselves" or something I'd worry |
| 03:23.26 | kd3 | ./em just had a Mazzlegasm! |
| 03:23.33 | Semlar | stahp |
| 03:23.35 | kd3 | >.> |
| 03:23.47 | Semlar | you're bringing back the nightmares |
| 03:24.40 | Semlar | every addon should just cause you to do random emotes |
| 03:24.48 | Semlar | and say things |
| 03:24.54 | Torhal | stabs Semlar with LibRock. |
| 03:25.03 | Kesava | and play loud applause sounds for no apparent reason |
| 03:25.09 | Semlar | it would be AWESOME |
| 03:25.42 | Kesava | and play 12 emoute sounds at the same time because something you don't care about happened |
| 03:25.54 | Kesava | (line 10755) |
| 03:26.46 | Dagmar | Ah... so you *have* used DBM then |
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| 03:26.52 | MysticalOS | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/11765846889?page=1#11 ok i think i explained it pretty good in that one. |
| 03:26.54 | Kesava | yep |
| 03:27.06 | Ressy | Semlar: If you wanna add your 'me too' to my bug report on that error: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/11765016837 |
| 03:29.24 | MysticalOS | knocks Torhal across cartographer with a fubar |
| 03:29.41 | Torhal | Impossible! I removed both from Curse over two years ago! |
| 03:29.52 | Torhal | Oh, wait. You didn't get them from Curse, did you? |
| 03:29.53 | Ressy | lol |
| 03:29.54 | Torhal | Sneaky. |
| 03:30.02 | MysticalOS | I updated both, and resubmitted them to curse 5 minutes ago! |
| 03:30.09 | Torhal | DENIED |
| 03:30.16 | MysticalOS | I already approved! |
| 03:30.26 | Torhal | I can still deny. |
| 03:31.15 | Semlar | Ressy: it's clearly related to battle pets |
| 03:31.31 | bluspacecow | *explodes the Tardis so he can be at every point of the universe all at the same time* |
| 03:31.32 | Torhal | Clearly. |
| 03:31.34 | Ressy | yup. |
| 03:31.35 | bluspacecow | *APPROVED* |
| 03:31.36 | Semlar | also your error has quite a lot more information in it than mine |
| 03:31.45 | Ressy | Loading pets while flying above.. |
| 03:31.55 | Torhal | stuffs bluspacecow into a Dalek. |
| 03:32.17 | Semlar | flying above someone in a pet battle? |
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| 03:32.34 | Kesava | What was the name of that addon that used to be paid, then went free because blizzard changed the policy (presumably because of this addon) |
| 03:32.41 | Ressy | Maybe.. I figured I flew above a pet that was trying to load or something |
| 03:32.41 | Semlar | carbonite? |
| 03:32.43 | Kesava | yes |
| 03:32.43 | kd3 | carbonite |
| 03:33.11 | Semlar | well the creature id in your error is only found in sholazar basin |
| 03:33.29 | bluspacecow | @Ressie :3 |
| 03:33.34 | Semlar | so if you weren't in sholazar it was probably a pet battle |
| 03:33.36 | Ressy | Heh.. Yeah, was flying above it, headed from tourney to nexus |
| 03:34.12 | Semlar | in that case it sounds like it's probably from wild battle pets |
| 03:34.27 | Torhal | battles Semlar and Neffi. |
| 03:34.33 | Semlar | i like that it's health is marked as -306 |
| 03:34.35 | MysticalOS | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:34.51 | Ressy | lmao blu.. |
| 03:35.03 | MysticalOS | (I want so damn much to put this in DBM, torhal, find me a license for that!) |
| 03:35.05 | Ressy | yeah yeah.. Didn't notice I was posting on one of my many alts. |
| 03:35.36 | MysticalOS | or http://mysticalos.com/Kefka.wav |
| 03:36.25 | Semlar | anyway it sounds like they removed a field from this table and are still checking for it |
| 03:36.54 | Semlar | or it's just missing for some reason |
| 03:37.34 | Torhal | MysticalOS: Sorry, wish I could help. |
| 03:37.41 | Torhal | Bedtime. |
| 03:39.07 | Kesava | mysticalos! |
| 03:39.14 | Kesava | give dbm profiles kthx |
| 03:40.37 | MysticalOS | why? |
| 03:40.40 | MysticalOS | install dbm-profiles |
| 03:40.46 | Kesava | oh |
| 03:40.54 | Kesava | i didn't know that existed |
| 03:41.01 | MysticalOS | most don't. it's 3rd party but works good |
| 03:41.08 | MysticalOS | so guy deserves the cred and the points for it |
| 03:41.12 | MysticalOS | not gonna add it if it's already done :) |
| 03:41.48 | MysticalOS | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/dbm-profiles/ |
| 03:41.57 | Kesava | lovely |
| 03:41.59 | Kesava | well nevermind then |
| 03:42.41 | Dagmar | I was just wondering because I was pretty sure I'd seen a profile selector in there, but then again I tend to install a lot of stuff first and worry about if it's needed second |
| 03:42.51 | Dagmar | "DBM in the name? *click* Install it!" |
| 03:43.04 | Amarande | hm |
| 03:43.07 | Amarande | been a while since I used DBM |
| 03:43.13 | Amarande | I think last time I played I chose to install Big Wigs instead |
| 03:43.28 | Dagmar | I am just mainly counting on seeing it in time if something like "DBM-FutanariParty" shows up |
| 03:43.47 | Amarande | hmm, lemme guess, futanari is ... *goes to Japanese dictionary on shelf* |
| 03:43.59 | Dagmar | Heh. Education time is nao |
| 03:44.23 | Amarande | hrm |
| 03:44.26 | Dagmar | A paper dictionary is _way_ safer than images.google. Good call. |
| 03:44.32 | Amarande | 'futanari' isn't in my dictionary |
| 03:44.38 | Amarande | and 'futan' means a responsibility or burden :S |
| 03:44.42 | Dagmar | That's probably for the best |
| 03:44.53 | Thunder_Child | Not as much fun though |
| 03:44.55 | kd3 | you don't want to know |
| 03:45.00 | kd3 | trust me on this |
| 03:45.10 | Amarande | heh, my first gut speculation was that maybe futanari meant 'lemon' |
| 03:45.12 | Dagmar | It lies squarely in the center of the large red circle of WTF representing the venn diagram of Japanese porn |
| 03:45.28 | Kesava | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futanari |
| 03:45.33 | Kesava | wikipedia is always safe |
| 03:45.37 | Dagmar | much omg. such hentai |
| 03:45.38 | Kesava | definitely nothing on that page |
| 03:46.29 | kd3 | bullshit |
| 03:46.43 | Dagmar | Your'e not likely to find anything about it that's nto accompanied by some fairly clear warning dialogs |
| 03:46.58 | Dagmar | ...except Google Images |
| 03:47.30 | Dagmar | Not even Safe Search can take the edge off that one |
| 03:48.57 | Semlar | i'm getting two colons :: when replying to a whisper |
| 03:49.27 | Semlar | the edit box says Tell Persons-Name:: |
| 03:49.36 | Semlar | :l |
| 03:54.45 | Thunder_Child | Well it is your fault. |
| 03:56.43 | Semlar | :( |
| 03:56.43 | Amarande | Kesava: I hope you never find yourself wandering to pages about various horrible diseases on wikipedia if you believe that ... heh |
| 03:57.06 | Kesava | i quite like the page for agent orange |
| 03:57.07 | Amarande | hell, even some of the more mundane pages like "cancer" can have images that get pretty damn grody at times :S |
| 03:57.45 | Kesava | what i particularly love is that now that i've said that at least one person here will feel the need to check |
| 03:58.34 | Thunder_Child | might as well say the same thing about lemon party |
| 03:59.08 | Amarande | heh |
| 03:59.11 | Amarande | http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SchmuckBait comes to mind now :) |
| 04:00.04 | Amarande | Or Julian Tuwim's famous quote from the 'real life' page therefrom |
| 04:00.08 | Amarande | "Tell a man there are 978,301,246,569,987 stars in the sky, and he will believe you. Show him a "Wet Paint" sign, and he will check and get his finger stained." |
| 04:01.10 | Corrodias | an inverse law of verifiability |
| 04:01.43 | Corrodias | the easier it is to verify something yourself, the less likely you are to take a statement about it at face value? |
| 04:05.39 | Thunder_Child | I only know about the inverse law of AC, the more you have, the more likely you are to get hit. |
| 04:06.43 | Amarande | also quite sadly, we had this one actually happen in ##hardware the other day |
| 04:06.43 | Semlar | or at least the colder you'll be |
| 04:06.44 | Amarande | "The Voltage Switch on the back of computer PSUs. Flicking it causes a loud bang, a lot of smoke, and a broken PSU." |
| 04:06.55 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Semlar |
| 04:06.55 | purl | runs at Semlar with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut |
| 04:06.58 | Semlar | :( |
| 04:07.10 | Amarande | seriously. we had one person come in and say they flipped the voltage switch to 230V on their PSU "because the computer wouldn't POST with it at 115V" |
| 04:07.19 | Amarande | then they asked us if the PSU and mobo would still be functional |
| 04:07.23 | Amarande | *cue Picard facepalm* |
| 04:07.38 | Corrodias | actually that should be okay. it's switching it the other way that'll give you a problem. |
| 04:07.48 | Corrodias | (as far as i know) |
| 04:08.20 | Semlar | someone aware of the voltage switch should know enough not to flip it |
| 04:10.32 | Neffi | I remember asking my stepfather what the switch was for when I was a kid. I asked which setting it needed to be on. His response was "I don't know, try both" |
| 04:11.32 | kd3 | blah. 10 minutes to wintergrasp, then a 20-minute solo endeavour before I can solo VoA |
| 04:11.39 | Semlar | it's just for different country outlets |
| 04:11.39 | Neffi | There's a good niche of people technologically aware enough to build computers, install Windows, and generally set things up properly, but lacking just enough expertise to not realize how little they know |
| 04:12.10 | Semlar | they made it pretty clear you weren't to screw around with the power supply in my A+ class |
| 04:12.36 | Semlar | or CRTs but that's not much of an issue any more |
| 04:12.52 | Neffi | Now most PSUs are universal |
| 04:13.16 | Amarande | Semlar: we get some amazingly facepalm cases of cluebism in ##hardware |
| 04:13.32 | Amarande | a week or so ago I think it was, we had someone asking if there was an adapter that would allow him to use an Intel CPU in an AMD motherboard |
| 04:13.57 | Semlar | :l |
| 04:14.00 | Neffi | I dont think questions like that are so bad. |
| 04:14.11 | Neffi | I mean, you can't fault them for not knowing something that's not common knowledge |
| 04:14.17 | Dagmar | They are simply unfettered by knowledge. |
| 04:14.24 | Neffi | I only get annoyed when people assert an expertise they clearly don't have |
| 04:14.29 | Semlar | i'm never fettered by knowledge |
| 04:14.49 | Semlar | ain't that right neffi |
| 04:14.52 | Neffi | Like when people say Intel is just being greedy by making you upgrade your mobo to one with a new chipset every 2 generations |
| 04:15.26 | Amarande | Neffi: every generation now |
| 04:15.32 | Amarande | haswell v2/broadwell won't work with z87 boards |
| 04:15.38 | Neffi | Which they probably could prevent, but I've heard arguments about them supposedly changing the pin configuration just so the old CPUs dont fit, even though it would still work |
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| 04:18.21 | Neffi | Amarande: "No idiots allowed. Especially bitcoin miners" <- lol |
| 04:18.30 | MysticalOS | it's a good change though, haswell is pretty hot |
| 04:18.37 | MysticalOS | moving the voltage regulator back to board should help |
| 04:18.48 | Neffi | Also any source on this? |
| 04:19.12 | Neffi | I'm susprised that announcement hasnt popped up on Ars or Anand. Unless I missed it |
| 04:20.06 | MysticalOS | i can probably find article somewhere, but the reason is the fact they are moving IVR off cpu and back onto the board |
| 04:20.15 | Neffi | Good |
| 04:20.20 | MysticalOS | which is why 87 won't work |
| 04:20.38 | Neffi | Dunno why they did that in the first place. It added a lot of heat to the CPU package |
| 04:20.43 | MysticalOS | yes |
| 04:20.46 | MysticalOS | and they realize that now |
| 04:21.03 | MysticalOS | i OC my haswell to 4.3ghz on air |
| 04:21.08 | Neffi | That seems like a blunder I dont expect from Intel |
| 04:21.18 | MysticalOS | pretty much sticks to 60-65C under full load |
| 04:21.41 | MysticalOS | when I encode videos and such and it uses all cores. |
| 04:21.42 | Neffi | That's acceptable, but I know the thermal properties were a big limiting factor in reasonable overclocks |
| 04:22.14 | Neffi | I also wonder if that had any impact on Haswell's quirkiness with RAM speeds. Lots of people just couldn't push RAM clocks nearly as high on Haswell |
| 04:22.36 | MysticalOS | everything, except wow, runs great on ultra settings. wow runs pretty good too, but can still see dips in big battles, like ordos on a tuesday i see as low as 19fps on ultra |
| 04:22.47 | MysticalOS | but that's wows engine blowing ass |
| 04:22.49 | Sintacks | anyone know how many range have to be at range on garrosh to make sure the weapon goes to a range person |
| 04:23.22 | MysticalOS | i run my ram at 1866 |
| 04:23.33 | MysticalOS | i could not even get 2133 stable, but i also got some shitty timing ram too |
| 04:23.52 | MysticalOS | my first build, and i bought poorly |
| 04:24.22 | Amarande | Neffi: yeah, it's probably the main reason Haswell has a higher TDP than Ivy, right? |
| 04:24.22 | Neffi | Maybe not. There were reports of top notch RAM kits that hit 24-2666 MHz on the previous gen only hitting like 2133 MHz on Haswell |
| 04:24.33 | Primer | where's breser!! |
| 04:24.37 | Primer | I want my PB fixed! |
| 04:24.37 | Neffi | Amarande: Could be the beefier GPU actually |
| 04:24.44 | MysticalOS | to even get 1866 to work I had to input manual SA and IO voltages |
| 04:25.14 | Neffi | At least RAM speeds don't matter a damn in 99% of cases |
| 04:25.30 | Neffi | But I'd be annoyed if I couldn't break at least 4.2 GHz |
| 04:25.40 | MysticalOS | haswell is safe to run pretty hot, as high as 90 some say. i ran it at 80C for 3 hours straight during stress tests when i was finding a comfy OC just fine. although I don't really like running that hot |
| 04:25.57 | Amarande | Neffi: the Xeons show it too |
| 04:26.01 | Neffi | Most chips are safe at 90. People just don't want a loud, hot space heater |
| 04:26.09 | Sintacks | i have 4 modules that are supposed to be the same model |
| 04:26.11 | Amarande | E3-1240 V2 = 69W, E3-1240 V3 = 80W |
| 04:26.15 | Sintacks | but two of them are different |
| 04:26.18 | Sintacks | and they ahve different timings |
| 04:26.23 | MysticalOS | and i have a superclocked 780 |
| 04:26.23 | Sintacks | so i can't get them stable at anything higher than 800 |
| 04:26.30 | MysticalOS | Ti is not worth the upgrade really |
| 04:26.36 | Neffi | The Haswell based Xeons have IGPs in them |
| 04:26.42 | MysticalOS | i'll wait til mid/late 2013 for real 800 series and see |
| 04:26.44 | Neffi | Except a few models |
| 04:27.09 | MysticalOS | 2014* |
| 04:27.10 | Neffi | The models with a similar model number, identical price, identical specs, but lower TDP, are just the Xeons with the IGP disabled |
| 04:27.19 | Amarande | Neffi: model that ends in 5 = IGP, model that ends in 0 = no IGP |
| 04:27.27 | Neffi | yeah |
| 04:28.02 | Neffi | Or other way around? But taking the numbers those Xeons quote into consideration, the IGP account for like 15 watts |
| 04:28.53 | Neffi | MysticalOS: I really doubt a 780 is your bottleneck. That's basically top of the line. The next notch up is "crazy expensive rich people's toy" |
| 04:30.04 | Neffi | Sintacks: Model number doesn't mean much. Manufacturers often change out the OEM, or source a different series altogether, but keep the same model number on it |
| 04:30.30 | Neffi | So two "identical" RAM sticks could be totally different |
| 04:30.52 | Neffi | That's why it's good to buy them all at the same time |
| 04:31.11 | Dagmar | You'd damn well better buy them all at the same time, as matched pairs if at all possible |
| 04:31.42 | Dagmar | Dual-chennel configurations _do not work_ if the geometry and timings aren't the same |
| 04:31.46 | Neffi | Yeah, it is a good idea to buy a kit |
| 04:34.38 | Dagmar | Even buying some where they listed 2-6-6-3 or whatever for them is risky if they're not almost 100% identical |
| 04:35.11 | Dagmar | Doing that _sometimes_ you can make them stable if you set the timings _much_ looser in the BIOS, but even that's dodgy for stability over long run-times |
| 04:35.37 | Sintacks | yeah Neffi, true. |
| 04:35.47 | Sintacks | but they are so different from each other that they have completley different timings |
| 04:36.04 | Sintacks | and iddin't have the money at the time to buy both at once. i got them 3 months apart. |
| 04:36.29 | Sintacks | but im' not buying a matching set until i can buy a whole new computer. |
| 04:36.29 | Dagmar | Heh. |
| 04:36.41 | Dagmar | The timings are only generally valid at the listed "correct" speeds |
| 04:36.59 | Dagmar | ...otherwise the manufacturer would just sell them listing the higher speeds |
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| 04:37.32 | Dagmar | Going outside specs is exactly how you find out the hard way about subtle differences between one capacitor the size of a gnat's kneecap and another |
| 04:44.55 | kd3 | 'lo blu |
| 04:45.08 | bluspacecow | \o |
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| 05:06.28 | Sintacks | Message: [string "Death and Respawn Check"] line 51: |
| 05:06.29 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:06.29 | Sintacks | wat |
| 05:06.32 | Sintacks | I dont' even know what addon this is |
| 05:06.39 | Semlar | it isn't |
| 05:06.45 | Sintacks | oh |
| 05:06.47 | Sintacks | dafuq |
| 05:06.49 | Semlar | there's a bug in the client |
| 05:06.55 | Sintacks | god damnit blizzard |
| 05:08.17 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:12.16 | Sintacks | bodypull... why do i know that name. |
| 05:12.23 | Semlar | i dunno |
| 05:12.40 | Sintacks | how the hell did blizzard break the armory |
| 05:12.42 | Neffi | it's that hunter that always dies |
| 05:12.55 | Semlar | well, you see my hunter is clearly special |
| 05:13.21 | Sintacks | i need to upload all of paragons, but i deleted the logfile... and i don't know whcih one has it in my recycle bin |
| 05:13.52 | Sintacks | and it's too big to open |
| 05:14.17 | Semlar | i think there's a tool somewhere for trimming the log file |
| 05:14.36 | Sintacks | both WoL and WCL can split them. but i don't knwo which one is which |
| 05:14.43 | Sintacks | one is 500MB the other is 1GB |
| 05:15.17 | Neffi | why the hekk |
| 05:16.06 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:16.37 | bluspacecow | @semlar its cause he |
| 05:16.37 | Semlar | :l |
| 05:16.40 | bluspacecow | DROPPED THE BASS |
| 05:16.45 | bluspacecow | WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB |
| 05:16.51 | Thunder_Child | ~lart bluspacecow |
| 05:16.51 | purl | dumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on bluspacecow |
| 05:17.09 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:17.17 | Sintacks | wtf is dat sem |
| 05:17.30 | Semlar | just me every time i raid |
| 05:18.08 | bluspacecow | http://weirdlywiredworld.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/zombie-chickens.jpg |
| 05:18.11 | bluspacecow | me when I raid |
| 05:18.55 | Semlar | it's actually immerseus enraging and one shotting everyone |
| 05:18.58 | Sintacks | WIM is annoying right now when you try to reply to someone if you didnt' message them first. or something. |
| 05:19.00 | Sintacks | \ |
| 05:19.06 | Sintacks | Why did blizzard put server names in names |
| 05:19.15 | Semlar | what a good question |
| 05:20.04 | Sintacks | it wouldn't be that much of a prople if UnitName OR BETTER YET. UnitFullName actually returned server |
| 05:20.10 | Thunder_Child | you mean instead of another arg? |
| 05:20.32 | Sintacks | they both return "Name", nil |
| 05:21.00 | Jamash | wow API calls are to blizzard what pots are to Link |
| 05:21.16 | Sintacks | wat |
| 05:21.25 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 05:21.29 | Semlar | smashable? |
| 05:21.32 | Jamash | if they're not broken, then they're not working hard enough |
| 05:21.37 | Thunder_Child | * |
| 05:21.40 | Thunder_Child | ^* |
| 05:21.47 | Semlar | containing rupees |
| 05:22.00 | Thunder_Child | rupees = dev tears |
| 05:22.15 | Semlar | this is why analogies were taken out of the SAT |
| 05:23.33 | Jamash | a bad analogy is like a comparison between two things that aren't very much alike |
| 05:23.42 | Semlar | :l |
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| 07:02.40 | karl_w_w | wow, something I just learnt about hearthstone |
| 07:02.44 | karl_w_w | the last card to join the Brawl is always the card that emerges the victor |
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| 07:26.17 | bluspacecow | TKL lol |
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| 08:08.17 | zenzio | I always wonder how people can determine what genre to put music under, at least when I look at di.fm. Under the "chillout" category there is chillout, chillout dreams, vocal chillout, chillstep, chillhop, cosmic downtempo, space dreams, ambient, psychill, psybient, downtempo lounge, lounge, eclectronica, electronic pioneers, deep house, deep nu-disco |
| 08:08.36 | zenzio | I can have enough trouble just figuring out the categories, let alone all the sub-species |
| 08:12.11 | bluspacecow | get high and catergorise |
| 08:18.10 | g0urra | zenzio: that's the first time I've seen someone mentioning di.fm |
| 08:18.32 | zenzio | it does seem to fly under the radar |
| 08:19.21 | g0urra | personally I listen to the Space Dreams or Goa-Psy Trance channels |
| 08:19.51 | g0urra | whoa, Juno reactor on goa-psy trance |
| 08:19.52 | zenzio | goa psy-trance sounds peculiar... but then so do 90% of the genres |
| 08:20.24 | zenzio | although "space dreams" strictly speaking says less to me than goa psy-trance; at least I understand two out of those three words |
| 08:20.49 | g0urra | Space Dreams is really, really relaxing 90% of the time |
| 08:21.00 | g0urra | the kind of music you can fall asleep to |
| 08:21.45 | zenzio | worth giving it a try after work |
| 08:21.58 | zenzio | wouldn't mind falling asleep at work, but I think the boss would object |
| 08:22.27 | g0urra | lol |
| 08:48.52 | Corrodias | goat trance |
| 08:55.39 | karl_w_w | classic trance best di.fm channel |
| 08:57.01 | karl_w_w | because classic trance best trance |
| 08:57.56 | zenzio | I'm partial to vocal trance, but classic is good too |
| 08:58.03 | zenzio | but for work I stick to chillout |
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| 09:10.59 | DJJeff | RAF mounts are back now :) |
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| 09:18.46 | DJJeff | http://www.wowhead.com/item=82447#reagent-for |
| 09:18.52 | DJJeff | alot of these are useless |
| 09:18.56 | g0urra | Bought Ikaruga on Steam, already had my first rage quit... |
| 09:19.43 | g0urra | DJJeff: you're saying that items early in an expansion are useless at the end of it?! |
| 09:19.48 | g0urra | what a travesty |
| 09:20.21 | DJJeff | with timeless isle handing out 496 and 535 gear |
| 09:20.37 | DJJeff | selling these on AH would be useless |
| 09:25.29 | Semlar | a fresh 90 is going to have a hell of a time killing things on the isle |
| 09:25.50 | nevcairiel | you dont need to kill things on the isle to get the gear |
| 09:25.53 | nevcairiel | just collect chests |
| 09:27.38 | Semlar | regardless, these would sell, it just depends on the cost |
| 09:28.08 | nevcairiel | too expensive to sell, because of the mats alone |
| 09:28.18 | zenzio | the joy of maintaining old systems that other people made... "Duplicate value '' for unique key Arf" |
| 09:28.26 | zenzio | and they wonder why nothing gets registered |
| 09:41.27 | DJJeff | you can see ilvl of items now in the charector ui :) |
| 09:41.42 | nevcairiel | is that new..? |
| 09:41.59 | nevcairiel | maybe i had an addon that showed them, but i always had them |
| 09:42.07 | nevcairiel | didnt knowingly install an addon for that though :p |
| 09:42.45 | Stanzilla | not new |
| 09:43.54 | Semlar | they've been visible at least since wrath |
| 09:44.13 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:44.37 | Semlar | yes cow |
| 09:44.44 | bluspacecow | Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii |
| 09:44.45 | bluspacecow | hi |
| 09:45.15 | Semlar | have you got hoof in mouth again |
| 09:54.55 | bluspacecow | yep! |
| 09:56.08 | Semlar | oh |
| 09:56.18 | Semlar | my condolences |
| 09:57.43 | Semlar | ~framexml |
| 09:57.43 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console or open 'World of Warcraft.app' --args -console after game loads press ~ and enter commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml . |
| 09:58.10 | Semlar | ah, they haven't been updated |
| 09:58.32 | Semlar | oh well |
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| 10:03.14 | zenzio | oh, spineless auto-correct dictionaries... "fucling" => "ducking, funking, fueling, furling, duckling, furlong" |
| 10:03.29 | zenzio | the intended word obviously being "fucking" |
| 10:05.23 | bluspacecow | FURLING |
| 10:07.18 | bluspacecow | ya gotta dance the funking duckling |
| 10:08.15 | Semlar | furlong.. |
| 10:08.26 | bluspacecow | its a fur |
| 10:08.29 | bluspacecow | that's long |
| 10:08.31 | bluspacecow | looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong |
| 10:08.35 | Semlar | i'm not sure that's accurate |
| 10:08.48 | bluspacecow | looooooooooooooooooooooooooooong |
| 10:09.02 | nevcairiel | a furlong fur sure is long fur |
| 10:09.23 | nevcairiel | its like, 40 rods |
| 10:09.31 | zenzio | jokes aside, a furlong is a unit of measurement |
| 10:10.00 | zenzio | I'm also slow; nev just said that |
| 10:10.30 | nevcairiel | nothing like a oxgang fur, which is much longer |
| 10:11.37 | nevcairiel | i could make fun of imperialistic units all day |
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| 10:52.11 | Sintacks | "Because you are involved in the trading of gold and equipment, legitimately means playing with an unaltered game client. Doing otherwise violates our policies for Battle.net, and it goes against the spirit of fair play that all of our games are based on. We strongly recommend that you avoid using any hacks, cheats, bots, or exploits. Suspensions and bans of players that have used or start |
| 10:52.12 | Sintacks | using cheats and hacks." |
| 10:52.14 | Sintacks | wat |
| 10:52.17 | Sintacks | dat english |
| 10:53.49 | nevcairiel | such fakes are never proper english |
| 10:53.52 | nevcairiel | ... for some reason |
| 10:53.53 | g0urra | the first and last sentence sure is engrish |
| 10:54.19 | Mr_Rabies | there's a theory that a lot of scams like that are intentionally bad so that intelligent people automatically dismiss them, nevcairiel |
| 10:54.35 | nevcairiel | i heard that, and it sounds odd to me |
| 10:54.43 | Sintacks | This is an automated email from Jagex Ltd., RuneScape, FunOrb, War of Legends and Stellar Dawn. |
| 10:54.43 | Sintacks | We regret to inform you that your account has recieved an offence. |
| 10:54.45 | Mr_Rabies | more work to try to scam those that'd question it |
| 10:54.56 | Sintacks | well why didn't you tell me my account was hacked. cuz it hasn't been logged into by me in like.. 5 years. |
| 10:55.26 | Sintacks | I will admit, they did pretty good job with the URL: http://www.secure.runescape.com.ll.co.vu/m=weblogin/c=WaqBhdrkWDS/login.ws?mod=1776&ssl=1&expired=0&dest=account_settings.ws |
| 10:55.27 | Mr_Rabies | easier to just scam those that could be convinced by broken english |
| 10:58.35 | bluspacecow | it r sleepy tiems |
| 10:58.37 | bluspacecow | . |
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| 12:12.17 | Semlar | i can not figure out how to force this scrollframe to show it's scrollbar so i can see where the hell it is |
| 12:13.11 | Semlar | the scrollbar is LFRBrowseFrameListScrollFrameScrollBar and it's for the browse tab of the raid browser |
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| 13:00.25 | Amarande | hrm, after reading this little gem on Ars ... |
| 13:00.26 | Amarande | "Time Warner once READ MY EMAIL ADDRESS TO ME over the phone... and I didn't even ask for it. They just blurted it out when I told them I hadn't received bill notifications." |
| 13:00.39 | Amarande | I'm actually not sure Comcast buying out Time Warner is that bad a thing |
| 13:00.51 | Amarande | since it sounds like Time Warner kind of sucks pretty horridly :| heh |
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| 13:17.50 | DJJeff | more realm maint? |
| 13:22.19 | nebula169 | apparently until 7 |
| 13:22.26 | Semlar | but it's 8! |
| 13:24.23 | DJJeff | 7am (california time) |
| 13:24.36 | Semlar | who knows when that might be! |
| 13:24.39 | Amarande | Semlar, you're grumbling too much ... need to take a more pacific approach to life |
| 13:24.44 | Amarande | *ducks* |
| 13:24.46 | Semlar | stahp |
| 13:26.47 | karl_w_w | zenzio, trancebase.fm is good as well |
| 13:27.13 | zenzio | karl_w_w: never heard of that one, will check it out. Thanks |
| 13:29.03 | Semlar | maybe they'll revert all of their name changes so all of the addons that updated will have to do it again |
| 13:29.28 | Sintacks | loolol |
| 13:30.10 | Sintacks | i'm-a go sleep |
| 13:30.26 | Semlar | zzz |
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| 13:50.14 | DJJeff | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/12850026/?utm_source=external-twitter&utm_medium=posting&utm_campaign=BlizzardCS |
| 13:50.27 | DJJeff | (jaw drops) W.....T......F..........! |
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| 13:54.22 | nebula169 | DJJeff: eh? don't need it anymore, soon anyone coming back will have a free boost to 90 |
| 13:54.46 | zenzio | the first question that comes to mind is "... why?" |
| 13:55.10 | zenzio | and only $60 for any additional level 90 boots! |
| 14:06.29 | DJJeff | realms are back up early? |
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| 14:15.00 | Maldivia | early? |
| 14:17.39 | DJJeff | its only 6:17am |
| 14:17.47 | DJJeff | they said back up at 7:00am |
| 14:18.04 | Maldivia | oh, US realms are down? |
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| 14:20.42 | DJJeff | they did go down |
| 14:20.45 | DJJeff | they are back up now |
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| 14:32.49 | Ressy | Wow's in maintenance again |
| 14:35.07 | DJJeff | they are back online |
| 14:35.17 | DJJeff | also WIM needs a fix or two |
| 14:35.36 | DJJeff | whispering people on same realm opens two popups |
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| 14:46.39 | Fisker | tacklehugs Lopeppeppy |
| 14:46.53 | Lopeppeppy | Why hello there. I missed you too. |
| 14:47.00 | Fisker | I missed you more! |
| 14:47.36 | Lopeppeppy | Nuh uh. |
| 14:47.42 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 14:48.21 | Fisker | My boss learned a valuable lesson today |
| 14:48.44 | zenzio | one does not simply Fisker? |
| 14:49.16 | Fisker | One does not shit on their prized stallion |
| 14:49.28 | Lopeppeppy | Because then you have to wash it, and stallions hate baths. |
| 14:49.35 | Fisker | Me too |
| 14:49.40 | zenzio | I didn't know you worked with horses |
| 14:50.03 | karl_w_w | i think Fisker is the horse in this scenario |
| 14:50.10 | Fisker | Yep |
| 14:50.11 | karl_w_w | he loves it when his boss rides him |
| 14:50.15 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 14:50.24 | Fisker | But only for sex |
| 14:57.16 | Fisker | so Lopeppeppy |
| 14:57.26 | Fisker | need someone at skidmore to rage over? |
| 14:57.35 | Fisker | I can be quite frustrating |
| 14:58.44 | zenzio | no wai |
| 14:59.02 | Fisker | It's true zenzio |
| 14:59.07 | zenzio | k |
| 14:59.14 | Fisker | I can't be quite as frustrating as my coworkers |
| 14:59.15 | Fisker | but still |
| 14:59.28 | Lopeppeppy | I dunno if we have any IT spots open Fisker, but I can check. Got your travel papers? |
| 14:59.56 | Fisker | Can't I just put on a turban, grow a beard and shout nonsensically at customs? |
| 14:59.58 | Lopeppeppy | And Skidmore has an award winning equestrian team, so Fisker's horse fetish would work well here. |
| 15:00.06 | Lopeppeppy | No Fisker. No shouting. |
| 15:00.10 | Fisker | oh |
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| 15:12.45 | DJJeff | ~7:10am and there is already 100+ Area52 Horde on timeless isle |
| 15:12.45 | purl | okay, DJJeff |
| 15:12.48 | DJJeff | ? |
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| 15:17.09 | DJJeff | ~purl |
| 15:17.09 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, purl is male |
| 15:17.37 | DJJeff | delay on this bot.... /me smacks purl upside the head |
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| 15:28.48 | jleclanche | "At this point in the Linux enthusiast stage, quantity does equal over quantity does survive if you want to survive. " |
| 15:28.58 | jleclanche | i think even my perl parser can't parse that sentence |
| 15:29.02 | jleclanche | can anyone else give it a shot? |
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| 15:33.36 | Lopeppeppy | No, that's in Klingon. |
| 15:57.08 | Dagmar | I tried to graph it and broke my pencil |
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| 15:57.22 | Dagmar | Who can has ever |
| 16:07.40 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: ive been felling sick and havent played much BD over the past few days but i just got a japanese Mammon in my village |
| 16:08.15 | Fisker | Qa'pla Lopeppeppy |
| 16:09.47 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: I got a level 56 something with a Japanese name |
| 16:10.04 | Dagmar | I've only bothered to attempt the level 10 and 20 nemeses |
| 16:11.06 | Arrowmaster | ive got a lvl 99 with a japanese name and the lvl 10 pic |
| 16:11.58 | Arrowmaster | i think thats supposed to be the hardest one |
| 16:12.18 | Arrowmaster | but the mammon i have i can steal 2 elixers from over and over and sell for 50k |
| 16:12.20 | Lopeppeppy | Bless you, Fisker. |
| 16:12.35 | Fisker | There is no honor in that |
| 16:12.56 | Dagmar | Ooooo |
| 16:13.14 | Dagmar | Those first two nemeses never had anything I could steal from them |
| 16:13.55 | Arrowmaster | yeah the mammon you steal do a brave 4x steal then tell everybody to run and do it over and over |
| 16:15.11 | Dagmar | Heh I was just contemplating something like that |
| 16:15.21 | Dagmar | *steal*... *FLEE!* |
| 16:15.32 | Dagmar | Worst that can happen is I try again from my last save. :) |
| 16:22.35 | Dagmar | I wonder if that's a technique that will work with auto-mode. :) |
| 16:35.11 | Lopeppeppy | I am not allowed to kill sheeple while I am clocked in. |
| 16:35.17 | Lopeppeppy | waits for lunch break. |
| 16:39.10 | Fisker | Isn't it lunch time at your place right about now? |
| 16:39.24 | Fisker | (the funk soul brother) |
| 16:44.25 | g0urra | check out the menu now |
| 16:44.31 | g0urra | (the funk soul brother) |
| 16:55.02 | Kesava | "rather be a cunt who's pro than a nice person who can't do shit" #dpsinlfr |
| 16:56.24 | Fisker | I'm dying g0urra |
| 16:56.31 | g0urra | good |
| 16:57.02 | Kesava | yes |
| 16:58.37 | Fisker | :( |
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| 17:44.34 | jleclanche | huh |
| 17:44.55 | jleclanche | i bought the latest HIB which claims all the games, except Twisted Dreams, are available on Linux |
| 17:45.07 | jleclanche | but Antichamber is not showing up on my steam linux page :/ |
| 17:46.54 | Arrowmaster | it might only be avaiable though humbles download page |
| 17:48.16 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: yeah but its on steam for windows |
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| 17:48.32 | jleclanche | i mean, they made a note about TD, so id have expected one about Antichamber |
| 17:48.41 | Arrowmaster | not all games with linux versions on humble have been added to steam linux |
| 17:49.01 | Arrowmaster | like dear ester |
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| 18:04.45 | Stanzilla | new cities for google cyber http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2014/02/exploring-new-cities-for-google-fiber.html |
| 18:04.47 | Stanzilla | fiber |
| 18:04.50 | Stanzilla | haha nice tpyo |
| 18:05.53 | Fisker | I want it for faxe ladeplads |
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| 18:09.39 | Stanzilla | I'd move in then |
| 18:19.16 | DJJeff | Stanzilla you cyber alot? |
| 18:19.23 | DJJeff | must be on your mind haha |
| 18:19.37 | DJJeff | Kansas City, KS |
| 18:19.48 | DJJeff | is sooooooooooo lucky to get G Fibre |
| 18:20.00 | DJJeff | Fiber* |
| 18:20.01 | DJJeff | ack |
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| 18:22.46 | Unkle | Station. |
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| 18:35.02 | Silvanas | anyonek now about breaking changes since last patch? |
| 18:36.04 | TC-Work | Sounded like there were |
| 18:36.18 | Silvanas | yeh my dkp addon broke again, |
| 18:39.33 | Ermad | I think the biggest one is whispers now automatically append "-Realm" even when they are on the same realm as you |
| 18:39.56 | Silvanas | i had that last path for guild names ;D |
| 18:40.45 | Ermad | yea, I just changed my addons to append -Realm to any function call that doesn't return it like that, so this slow creep of adding it in won't break it each patch |
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| 18:44.36 | Silvanas | heh i see |
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| 19:03.02 | Silvanas | seems like realm name was added to ChatMessageAddon |
| 19:06.05 | Stanzilla | Ambiguate() is your new best friend |
| 19:08.58 | Silvanas | ? |
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| 19:12.50 | Kesava | http://wowpedia.org/API_Ambiguate |
| 19:14.06 | Stanzilla | https://onedrive.live.com/ everyone how logs in NOW gets 100gb space |
| 19:16.44 | Arrowmaster | but its microsoft... |
| 19:18.01 | Unkle | Funny, I logged in to discover 107gb of space available. |
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| 19:19.49 | Stanzilla | yeah it's 100gb extra |
| 19:19.50 | Stanzilla | for one year |
| 19:21.14 | Unkle | I tend to store most stuff locally. I mean, I barely even dent the capacity of my free dropbox account. |
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| 19:28.04 | Kesava | .. 100gb for a year, then what? |
| 19:28.17 | nevcairiel | then they take your data and blackmail you with it |
| 19:28.31 | nevcairiel | its obvious, isnt it |
| 19:28.44 | Dagmar | nevcariel++ |
| 19:29.47 | nevcairiel | and Dagmar needs to either learn the function of the tab key for nick-completion, or figure out that there is an extra i in my name |
| 19:30.30 | Unkle | sarcasm, it drips. |
| 19:31.08 | Dagmar | I don't need nick-completion. I just type names. |
| 19:31.25 | nevcairiel | badly though :P |
| 19:31.43 | Dagmar | Better than having me see "Dumbass|Away:" show up in my output. |
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| 19:35.28 | Unkle | Verizon's website is being painfully slow today. |
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| 19:45.00 | DJJeff | sylvanaar |
| 19:45.37 | DJJeff | sylvanaar: wim needs a quick fix to append realm name to whispers |
| 19:46.57 | DJJeff | MysticalOS |
| 19:47.14 | nevcairiel | did you update to alpha before asking? |
| 19:47.21 | DJJeff | yes |
| 19:47.25 | DJJeff | I think so |
| 19:47.39 | nevcairiel | he did some fixes yesterday already |
| 19:50.48 | Fisker | Do you have a pit Lopeppeppy ? |
| 19:53.34 | DJJeff | ah curse client is behind a bit |
| 19:53.41 | DJJeff | it only has wim at r409 |
| 19:53.43 | Lopeppeppy | Pit of despair? Yes, I'm in it. |
| 19:53.58 | DJJeff | the website has wim at r410 |
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| 20:02.51 | jleclanche | a word is escaping me |
| 20:03.07 | jleclanche | a word used to nullify "official"-looking documents when they are used as props, such as credit cards, IDs or various official documents |
| 20:03.17 | jleclanche | eg. "XXXX DO NOT USE" |
| 20:03.42 | Dagmar | redaction? |
| 20:03.51 | Dagmar | Censoring? Sanitization? |
| 20:04.00 | jleclanche | no, the actual word you would print on top of the document |
| 20:04.08 | jleclanche | it sounds something like.. sample? |
| 20:04.08 | Dagmar | UNCLASSIFIED |
| 20:04.18 | jleclanche | nope but you got the right idea |
| 20:04.27 | Dagmar | 'SAMPLE COPY' |
| 20:04.29 | jleclanche | think like a toy credit card |
| 20:04.43 | Dagmar | They just make it real obvious it's not going to scan |
| 20:04.58 | jleclanche | ok, think like a fake bill |
| 20:05.16 | Dagmar | Cover most of the face of it with 'NOT LEGAL TENDER' |
| 20:05.26 | jleclanche | its one specific, single word |
| 20:06.05 | Dagmar | I'm pretty sure if you make fake money and just put one simple word on it, you can still get into trouble |
| 20:06.20 | jleclanche | im not admitting to doing that. |
| 20:06.26 | jleclanche | I mean I'm not doing that. |
| 20:06.29 | Dagmar | If you look at Google Images the most common thing that shows up is 'FAKE' |
| 20:06.35 | Jamash | VOID |
| 20:06.59 | Dagmar | 'FORGERY' works pretty well. ;) |
| 20:07.23 | Dagmar | 'Void' isn't going to help you with respect to classfied/secret documents tho |
| 20:07.30 | jleclanche | not classified |
| 20:07.54 | jleclanche | Jamash: you have the right idea again, but I think it's an actual word that defines "a realistic-looking document which is meant for display purposes only and not for actual usage" |
| 20:07.56 | Dagmar | You can make those as real looking as you like as long as you put on there: Unclassified, for public release |
| 20:07.56 | Jamash | SPECIMEN |
| 20:08.00 | jleclanche | YES |
| 20:08.01 | jleclanche | specimen |
| 20:08.08 | Dagmar | Specimen is probably appropriate |
| 20:08.30 | Jamash | found http://americablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/New-Franklin-100-dollar-bill.jpg |
| 20:08.41 | jleclanche | really? i was googling credit cards. |
| 20:08.42 | Dagmar | Makes me wonder why doctors insist on the real thing when they want a urine specimen |
| 20:08.53 | Jamash | ho ho ho |
| 20:09.13 | jleclanche | ho ho ho, you tested positive. |
| 20:09.20 | Jamash | positive for being awesome |
| 20:09.52 | Dagmar | I found a Canadian version http://www.artbrokerage.com/Steve-Kaufman/New-100-Dollar-Bill-Ben-Franklin-60762 |
| 20:09.54 | Jamash | why are fax machines still the state of the art in medical billing |
| 20:10.48 | Jamash | I call the pharmacy and they say oh we faxed it to them and I call the doctor and they say oh we never got it and so I have to call the pharmacy and ask them to fax the doctor again |
| 20:11.09 | Dagmar | Because of Clinton's stupid bill |
| 20:11.10 | Jamash | meanwhile I am going without my drugs |
| 20:11.28 | Jamash | what does clinton have to do with anything? |
| 20:12.17 | Dagmar | because he's the guy who put an end to the stupid shit about people not being able to file their taxes online, as well as made it legally acceptable that a 'facsimile copy' made by a fax machine being allowed to act as a stand-in for the original |
| 20:12.37 | Jamash | I'm confused |
| 20:12.56 | Jamash | what does that have to do with my pharmacy not being able to submit stuff to my doctor's office via the interbutts |
| 20:13.14 | Dagmar | Well, *that's* probably because they're idiots who are still using fax machines. |
| 20:13.21 | Jamash | this is my point |
| 20:13.25 | Dagmar | ...which have notoriously crap address book features |
| 20:13.36 | Dagmar | We used to get people's medical data faxed into the NOC all the time |
| 20:13.41 | Jamash | argh |
| 20:13.56 | Jamash | that's probably a federal crime |
| 20:13.58 | Dagmar | ...and we'd have to hassle the sender to go through and figure out what freaking entry they had our phone number in where it shouldn't be |
| 20:14.08 | Dagmar | It could get some people in some shit, yes. |
| 20:14.18 | Dagmar | This is why we could get away with being as snarky as we wanted when we'd fax them back. |
| 20:14.46 | Dagmar | ANy formal complaint would almost immediately begin with a response of 'You faxed someone's sensitive data to where now?' |
| 20:15.15 | Dagmar | SOsmeone pushed back on me about it _once_ pestering me about what I did with the document and I told them I ate it. |
| 20:15.44 | Jamash | "HIPAA violation due to willful neglect but violation is corrected within the required time period $10,000 per violation, with an annual maximum of $250,000 for repeat violations" |
| 20:16.05 | Jamash | I would call faxing records to the wrong number "willful neglect" |
| 20:18.22 | Jamash | my head hurts |
| 20:21.42 | Neffi | gives Jamash some aspirin |
| 20:21.59 | MysticalOS | DJJeff, what fix? |
| 20:22.04 | Jamash | thanks |
| 20:23.22 | MysticalOS | Pretty sure WIM is 100% already |
| 20:23.31 | Neffi | Faxing records to the wrong number is probably not willfull neglect. But it might be criminal negligence if it leads to anything bad |
| 20:24.00 | Neffi | My friend's brother is a junior lawyer. He'd probably know |
| 20:27.59 | Dagmar | Not to worry. We were *dicks* about it if the same place did it enough to be considered willful |
| 20:28.44 | Dagmar | I even faxed back a one pager "report" from the "Fax To Facebook" service, with a quarter-page replica of what they'd faxed us on it |
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| 20:43.27 | Fisker | I want to join you in the pit of despair Lopeppeppy |
| 20:44.51 | znf | Anyone using SuF here? me and a guildie don't see boss frames on certain fights (fights with only 1 boss, 2+ works fine) |
| 20:45.02 | Lopeppeppy | Lots of frelling room. Sheeple keep digging it deeper. |
| 20:46.12 | Fisker | yeah |
| 20:52.36 | jleclanche | Watching a crime series' episode about a closet music star. "The records company gave him a cheque for only $1000, not nearly what he was due." |
| 20:52.38 | jleclanche | hahahahaha. |
| 20:52.44 | jleclanche | good one. |
| 20:53.07 | DJJeff | MysticalOS: recently I notice when I whisper someone with Name-Realm |
| 20:53.17 | DJJeff | it opens a 2nd popup with just Name |
| 20:53.46 | DJJeff | and when I whisper Name-Realm it says not found |
| 20:54.21 | DJJeff | only started after recent patch |
| 20:54.32 | DJJeff | not sure why WoW likes to mess with this crap |
| 20:54.38 | DJJeff | breaking addons |
| 20:54.49 | DJJeff | even tho addons are "3rd party" |
| 20:57.33 | Fisker | baw another day almost over Lopeppeppy |
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| 21:10.42 | Fisker | Goodbye cruel world |
| 21:12.52 | Unkle | Alas poor Fisker, we knew him, channel. A troll of limited scope... |
| 21:23.03 | Jamash | Lua tables strike again http://community.playstarbound.com/index.php?threads/issues-surrounding-hotfix-2-for-enraged-koala.72178/#post-1808554 |
| 21:25.13 | Neffi | "agilely" this is gonna be a fun read |
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| 21:26.36 | Neffi | This also sounds like they're bad at Lua |
| 21:39.09 | Torhal | Neffi: SOunds like they're downright dreadful with it and regarded it as Magical Pixie Dust. |
| 21:40.05 | Unkle | Mmmm... Magical Pixie Dust. A little for Santa Claus, a little for the reindeer. A little more for Santa Clause ... |
| 21:40.53 | Torhal | Hah |
| 21:44.27 | Mr_Rabies | urgh the armory is still down |
| 21:46.44 | Unkle | I need a great big class of whiskey. |
| 21:47.23 | Torhal | If you walk into a classroom and all of the students are whiskey... |
| 21:47.44 | Unkle | see? the answer here is MOAR BOOZMAHOL |
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| 21:53.45 | Neffi | Sigh. I hope Bethesda comes to their senses and cans Papyrus |
| 21:54.39 | Neffi | The language is slow as shit, and it's commited to the save files. If your script hits a condition which may cause an infinite loop, but you save before that occurs, your save file is trashed because the script will always resume |
| 21:55.12 | Neffi | And if the script is fixed in an update, the old version is left orphaned in the save anyway, leading to a pile up of errors even if it doesnt freeze |
| 21:56.16 | Neffi | I'd start a community petition, but the whole community seems to suffer from stockholme syndrome. They don't care that what they're working with is weapons-grade garbage. They like it |
| 21:56.51 | Unkle | Weapons-grade Garbage is the name of my next band. |
| 21:57.54 | Neffi | Bethesda Has a Unique Talent at Perfecting Incompetance -- your first album title |
| 21:59.43 | Unkle | I thought it would be more like "This Save File Format Sucks" |
| 21:59.55 | Neffi | I just read a rundown of why a lot of issues occur. Papyrus is so slow that coders don't bother checking many conditions, because the overhead is too high. They just run with the assumption that the script will (hopefully) eventually cease so the errors that occur don't matter -- unless you're unlucky enough that an error actually breaks your game, which is pretty damn common |
| 22:00.30 | Neffi | Like, entire cells of the world can unload, but the associated scripts can keep running with the assumption that the objects they're referencing and operating on are still there -- for hours |
| 22:01.03 | Neffi | How can a company make so much money with garbage? |
| 22:02.09 | Neffi | Oh, and errors aren't handled unless you enable debugging, which incurrs so much overhead many coders don't even bother to test their scripts at all |
| 22:02.22 | Semlar | we'll fix it in post |
| 22:02.26 | Neffi | Adn even then, you need to run the game for a period, do a bunch of shit, then exit the game and inspect hundreds of megs of logs |
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| 22:03.57 | Neffi | How do your endeavors go, Semlar? |
| 22:04.06 | Semlar | usually badly |
| 22:04.12 | Neffi | heh |
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| 22:25.00 | Semlar | neffiiii |
| 22:28.08 | Torhal | I think Neffi should go work on the Starbound team. |
| 22:28.16 | Torhal | Not sure if he'd be coding or swearing, though. |
| 22:28.22 | Semlar | yes |
| 22:28.38 | Torhal | Both? |
| 22:28.44 | Torhal | Coding WITH swears, perhaps? |
| 22:29.00 | Semlar | is there another way? |
| 22:29.22 | Torhal | I thought most people just rolled their faces around on their keyboards. |
| 22:29.32 | Unkle | Profanity++ all the features of every staticly typed language you've ever hated in one handy package. |
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| 22:32.32 | Neffi | I'd be coding |
| 22:32.47 | Neffi | Bad programming is fixable. A bad toolset that has no hope of ever being good is another story |
| 22:36.26 | Torhal | sets Neffi's tolerance field to nil then passes him in entirety to the Starbound team. |
| 22:36.38 | Neffi | No! They'll violate me! |
| 22:36.58 | Neffi | I suspect the guy responsible regulars #lua |
| 22:36.59 | Unkle | In new and interesting ways? On camera? |
| 22:37.15 | Neffi | Yesterday somebody was asking how to go about passing an array with nils on the end back and forth without it being truncated |
| 22:37.21 | Torhal | ... |
| 22:37.41 | Neffi | Asking if it's acceptable to manipulate the internal properties of tables so he can hack in his own length |
| 22:37.53 | Torhal | What the actual fuck? |
| 22:37.59 | Neffi | yeh |
| 22:38.03 | Torhal | needs a nap. |
| 22:39.48 | pompy | http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10484741/oklahoma-sooners-penalized-three-student-athletes-eating-too-much-pasta&ex_cid=sportscenter lol thats funny |
| 22:43.38 | Neffi | Found it http://pastebin.com/2QWutv7D |
| 22:43.47 | Neffi | I think he's tackling the problem from exactly the wrong direction |
| 22:45.55 | Unkle | ... that made my brain hurt. |
| 22:50.50 | Semlar | tackles neffi |
| 22:52.04 | Neffi | segfaults |
| 22:52.34 | Unkle | great, now he's gonna core dump and *I* am *not* cleaning that up! |
| 22:52.41 | Semlar | why not insert false or something instead of nil |
| 22:53.15 | Neffi | this was good http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/433118/february-18-2014/brian-greene |
| 22:54.04 | Semlar | i mean nil is not a value |
| 22:54.13 | Semlar | :l |
| 23:00.04 | Neffi | Semlar: I've never known you to be a bigot |
| 23:00.07 | Neffi | fight for value equality |
| 23:00.17 | Neffi | (function() end) == nil! |
| 23:01.33 | Semlar | separate but equal! |
| 23:02.13 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:02.35 | Neffi | I believe you did that |
| 23:02.38 | Semlar | oh right |
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| 23:02.42 | Semlar | that was me |
| 23:03.27 | Semlar | well you certainly didn't stop me did you |
| 23:03.40 | Neffi | A madman will do what he does |
| 23:04.31 | Neffi | I've noticed ENB presets get less and less realistic over time |
| 23:04.57 | Neffi | I think it's proportional to how often the players go outside and get a glimpse of what the world actually looks like |
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| 23:22.46 | Unkle | Wait, there's a world out there in all that ... sunlight? |
| 23:23.37 | Neffi | It's almost unbelievable, but yes |
| 23:27.49 | JC33 | Can it be programmed? |
| 23:28.28 | JC33 | It may be only available within the domain of the singing sunflower. :) |
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| 23:32.23 | Neffi | Yeah but it uses this strange esoteric language |
| 23:32.33 | Neffi | It's not even guaranteed to function as expected |
| 23:33.22 | Unkle | And you need pretty major tools to make any changes. |
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