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| 00:23.44 | Torhal | Huh. New Battle.net EULA - "The maximum number of Accounts that a person may register on the Service is limited to no more than three (3) Accounts." |
| 00:29.10 | Stanzilla | old |
| 00:29.58 | Torhal | terminates Stanzilla with a bookend. |
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| 00:49.38 | Mr_Rabies | Tip: The Zandalari are back, and they brought Dinomancers. Dinomancers! |
| 00:49.46 | Mr_Rabies | i've never seen this tip and it's already out of date |
| 00:49.47 | Mr_Rabies | :( |
| 00:56.02 | Amarande | Torhal: yeah, some of us have been pondering since then just why they would want to do that |
| 00:56.39 | Amarande | I've heard of goldfarming as a suggested reason, but I'm not exactly sure why it would suddenly be a problem NOW |
| 00:57.54 | Amarande | unless, like I suggested, they expect people to get desperate and turn to gold farmers when the auction house shuts down for D3 |
| 01:00.18 | pompy | haha http://www.ign.com/videos/2014/02/14/world-of-warcraft-love-and-pax |
| 01:10.12 | Amarande | (probably actually the logical thing to think it does have to do with D3, actually - WoW is in end of expansion ennui, so the gold farming biz is probably at an expansion low anyways, and it's not like you can gold farm in Starcraft LOL) |
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| 01:26.38 | kd3 | huh. a game where you can explode a mech by dropping a mech on it. if that's not 'games as art', I dunno what is |
| 01:27.57 | Amarande | kd3: you could explode Prinnies by dropping other Prinnies onto them too, generally :) |
| 01:28.31 | Amarande | (hmmm ... actually, I'm not 100% sure what happens if you pick up an enemy Prinny and drop it on another ... as in whether it goes kaboom or if it just merges the enemies into a higher level one like usually happens when you do that, heh) |
| 01:48.16 | TC-Work | 2 people in my room are arguing about where beiber lives. FML |
| 01:48.46 | Iriel | Are you one of the 2? |
| 01:50.38 | Guest42879 | ... |
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| 01:51.49 | TC-Work | No |
| 01:52.37 | TC-Work | Just before that they were arguing about which suburb they live in is more 'ghetto' and 'gangster' |
| 01:52.52 | TC-Work | Someone please come and shoot me. |
| 01:53.08 | Iriel | TC-Work: arguing as in, they're approaching it as some kind of competition? |
| 01:53.22 | TC-Work | Also Guest42879, is it that hard to do '/nick Shirik'? |
| 01:53.28 | TC-Work | Iriel: Yes :( |
| 01:53.29 | Guest42879 | hard? no |
| 01:53.37 | TC-Work | Then do it you lazy bastard |
| 01:53.39 | Guest42879 | I choose to be identified by my code name |
| 01:53.39 | Iriel | TC-Work: you should just end your misery now. |
| 01:53.54 | Iriel | CodeName: LazyIdiot? |
| 01:53.59 | Guest42879 | :( |
| 01:54.06 | Guest42879 | ~laziness |
| 01:54.06 | purl | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
| 01:54.09 | TC-Work | Or I could just kill them. I think it would be justified. |
| 01:54.11 | Amarande | heh, recently I noticed someone used Bieber as an example of why CAPTCHA is a bad idea |
| 01:54.19 | Amarande | ... they really need to come up with a better example :P |
| 01:54.38 | TC-Work | That and my friend is the daywatch lt. at the precinct that covers this area. |
| 01:54.52 | Amarande | they made a pretty decent point (people get to miss out on event tickets because scalpers buy them all out while they're trying to pass the damned CAPTCHA) |
| 01:55.01 | Amarande | but ... Bieber, really? that's gonna turn off a bunch of folks to listening to them :S |
| 01:55.13 | TC-Work | day watch LT.* |
| 01:55.40 | Amarande | btw, has this one rumour I'm hearing about ReCAPTCHA actually got a grain of truth to it or is it conspiracy theory all the way? heh |
| 01:56.32 | Amarande | some folks claim it's a way that Google gets free labour for their books project LOL |
| 01:56.40 | Semlar | of course |
| 01:56.56 | Iriel | isn't that like, the point |
| 01:56.59 | Semlar | they explain how it works on the recaptcha site |
| 01:57.05 | Iriel | to make the captcha process actually do something useful |
| 01:57.11 | Amarande | apparently the idea being that somehow the human entry to distorted text relationship is used to tune their OCR systems |
| 01:57.18 | Amarande | which, I'm going to say, are abysmal :( |
| 01:57.30 | Semlar | no, they provide a known word and an unknown word |
| 01:57.33 | Amarande | like, I had an annoyed "eff you Google" moment the other day, and I usually love Google |
| 01:57.50 | Semlar | if you got the known word correct they give your response for the unknown word some weight |
| 01:58.06 | Amarande | one of my fave chess books that I have in my google play books collection got *butchered* recently, with no way to get the old version back :| |
| 01:58.24 | Amarande | now I'd struggle to say the Google edition is worth even $1 let alone $10 :( |
| 01:58.27 | Mr_Rabies | 4chan was mostly using racial slurs and profanities for the unknown word |
| 01:59.19 | Amarande | hope that future's not in store for the rest of my collection at some point :( |
| 02:00.07 | Iriel | Amarande: Butchered how - loss of content? |
| 02:00.29 | Semlar | almost every ebook i've read is just full of errors |
| 02:00.52 | Amarande | Iriel: it was a scanned pages book, which read just like the original print book |
| 02:01.00 | Semlar | it's very obvious that it's either from OCR or this kind of captcha stuff |
| 02:01.29 | Semlar | like "rn" interpreted as "m" |
| 02:01.42 | Amarande | Then they changed it to an OCR'd version that looks totally butt ugly and doesn't even have columns aligned correctly etc. |
| 02:01.53 | Iriel | have you contacted them |
| 02:02.07 | Amarande | not yet. |
| 02:02.16 | Iriel | this seems like something they'd not do "deliberately" |
| 02:02.23 | Amarande | and the sad thing is, most of my classic chess books that I have on google books are scanned pages |
| 02:02.33 | Amarande | so I'm wondering now if they'll all go through a butcher stage as well :| |
| 02:02.44 | Iriel | but I could totally see it mostly going automatically and requiring some intervention to say 'err, no' |
| 02:03.35 | Amarande | yeah it's probably some sort of automation |
| 02:04.51 | Amarande | even the scanned pages sometimes have problems at times, like I have an old-time games book (Foster's Complete Hoyle) in my collection, and well you can't argue with free (the one that got all messed up was a paid book, that makes it worse) |
| 02:05.05 | Amarande | but I did notice that something like 200 pages in the middle of the book are there twice heh |
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| 02:39.08 | Arrowmaster | drove almost 3 hours in the snow to goto a friend of a friends lan party and put my car in a snow bank 2 miles away |
| 02:40.08 | Amarande | ouch |
| 02:40.23 | Amarande | snow banks are not supposed to be used for deposits :| |
| 02:40.36 | Semlar | so we wiped on garrosh yesterday because both of the players who got mind controlled were immune to interrupts |
| 02:40.59 | Arrowmaster | car seems fine after the guy came and pulled me out |
| 02:41.23 | Amarande | Semlar: heh, gotta love MC |
| 02:41.36 | Semlar | we couldn't figure out what happened |
| 02:41.48 | Amarande | remember the old fun days of H-Mech where if you had a super high burst class like a rogue in your party it was practically like rolling the dice? |
| 02:42.13 | Amarande | because when you got to pathaleon and he used his MC, if it got the rogue, he'd probably shred the healer faster than a Porsche goes from zero to sixty |
| 02:46.44 | Amarande | Ahhhh the good old days of undergeared heroic runs in TBC and their difficulty |
| 02:46.56 | Amarande | H-Mech, I'd actually venture to say is nearly as hard as HSH when undergeared, but for the opposite reason |
| 02:47.12 | Semlar | heroics in tbc were actually difficult and it made them interesting |
| 02:48.37 | Semlar | i don't really like the gigantic power gap we have now between tiers of gear |
| 02:48.38 | Amarande | well, in HSH, from what I recall, the bosses weren't so bad, but the trash was absolutely unforgivingly brutal |
| 02:49.11 | Amarande | in H-Mech, the trash was fairly sedate (as long as you took care not to link all the elves in the first room ...) but the bosses required 40 bazillion things to all go right, especially if undergeared :) |
| 02:49.34 | Kesava | (any one know of an addon besides clique which basically provides.. hidden macro keybind. buttons.) |
| 02:50.04 | Semlar | i use this http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info17648-ImpliedTarget.html but i don't know if that's what you mean |
| 02:50.30 | Semlar | it basically lets me turn all of my abilities into mouseover macros |
| 02:51.13 | Kesava | yeah, I use that at the moment |
| 02:51.42 | Kesava | but, well, for one thing I want to try out having hidden action bars and using something like tellmewhen, and for another I have hardly any macro space left on any character |
| 02:52.04 | Amarande | bleh I really need to start remembering for once what spells I gave my dog and stop worrying when a fireball comes down the way ... ROFL |
| 02:52.25 | Semlar | you just want something that lets you make unlimited macros |
| 02:52.49 | Kesava | that would work too. then I'd need a way to bind them. |
| 02:52.57 | Kesava | preferably without the overhead of a full on actionbar addon |
| 02:53.48 | Semlar | there's an addon called hoverbind or something that let you bind anything but i don't know if it still works |
| 02:54.08 | Stanzilla | I use BindPad |
| 02:54.58 | Semlar | i need a list of every player ability that is capable of interrupting a spell cast |
| 02:55.11 | Stanzilla | check InterruptBar |
| 02:55.16 | Kesava | oh, looks like that might be good.. |
| 02:55.57 | Amarande | Semlar: including or not including things like stuns and knockback that also cause actions to abort but are not strictly "interrupts"? |
| 02:56.01 | Semlar | nah i need like stuns and crowd controls and knockbacks |
| 02:56.34 | Semlar | i went through every spell a player could cast on wowhead last time i made this list |
| 02:56.38 | Stanzilla | Semlar: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info22588-InterruptBar.html |
| 02:56.41 | Stanzilla | stop ignoring me :p |
| 02:56.48 | Semlar | i'm looking at it right now |
| 02:57.07 | Semlar | i only see a short list of normal interrupts |
| 03:01.37 | Stanzilla | other stuff I know about is all outdated |
| 03:01.38 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:01.48 | Semlar | but i made it in 2011 |
| 03:05.10 | Amarande | wow, it finally just dawned on me that the quest for glory questgiver in torchlight sounds like C3PO |
| 03:05.46 | Amarande | I thought it sounded familiar and droidish but I couldn't figure out till now just what it was reminding me of ... |
| 03:08.37 | Semlar | do players even have random stun abilities like impact any more |
| 03:10.09 | kd3 | blizz's list of all CCs: http://wowpedia.org/Diminishing_returns |
| 03:10.36 | Semlar | i knew there was a list somewhere |
| 03:22.25 | Neffi | Semlar: Paralytic Poison |
| 03:22.47 | Neffi | It |
| 03:22.50 | Neffi | It's sort of random |
| 03:23.51 | Semlar | earthquake is of some concern |
| 03:24.06 | Stanzilla | nobody uses that spell |
| 03:24.16 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure i never figured out if you could detect when it actually stunned something |
| 03:26.08 | Semlar | mostly because i couldn't test it myself |
| 03:26.35 | Semlar | presumably it applied a second aura when it stunned something but i'm not sure |
| 03:28.06 | Neffi | Semlar: not positive if this is it, but here http://www.wowhead.com/spell=77505 |
| 03:28.10 | Neffi | spellID and duration |
| 03:28.36 | Semlar | looks promising |
| 03:34.03 | Semlar | i wanted to revive an old addon i wrote that showed you when anyone interrupted anything with aaaaany spell |
| 03:39.20 | Kesava | ... so i seem to have come across a bug where jab is giving my brewmaster 2 chi every time i use it |
| 03:39.50 | Stanzilla | isn |
| 03:39.57 | Kesava | no, that's windwalker |
| 03:40.57 | Stanzilla | I was thinking power strikes |
| 03:41.00 | Stanzilla | but that has a 20s cd |
| 03:41.21 | Kesava | oh, yeah, and i don't have that, i have chi brew |
| 03:42.47 | Kesava | aha |
| 03:42.50 | Kesava | i was in the wrong stance. |
| 03:42.52 | Kesava | nvm. |
| 03:42.59 | Kesava | buggy actionbars. |
| 03:43.12 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 03:49.59 | Semlar | bugs neffi |
| 03:50.17 | Neffi | explodes. |
| 03:50.26 | Semlar | i'll get the wetvac |
| 03:50.52 | Dagmar | Dont' forget the bleach |
| 03:50.56 | Semlar | thursday/friday are horrible raid days by the way |
| 03:51.20 | Semlar | there are so many god damn holidays |
| 03:52.17 | Dagmar | not to mention teh sex |
| 03:52.58 | Neffi | what sex? |
| 03:53.09 | Dagmar | Well, at least you're getting some good drops |
| 04:38.20 | kd3 | holy crap, that was an earthquake I felt an hour ago |
| 04:38.29 | kd3 | 4.1 on the ga/sc border near I-20 |
| 04:38.42 | Dagmar | Yeah I heard someone in SC talking about it |
| 04:38.59 | Dagmar | Didn't feel it here in BNA-land |
| 04:39.18 | kd3 | my monitors were shaking... probably 10ish seconds? |
| 04:40.30 | Dagmar | A 4.1 isn't particularly big but it's definitely rare for this part of the country |
| 04:40.49 | kd3 | yah. hell, I remember the last one we had just on the alabama side of the border... 5-10 years ago? |
| 04:40.55 | Dagmar | Did you even have a chance to run around in circles? |
| 04:41.13 | Dagmar | A little more than 10 years ago I think |
| 04:41.13 | kd3 | nah, was grinding in wow, just going 'huh?' |
| 04:41.27 | Dagmar | I'd just moved back to Tennessee and it woke me up. |
| 04:41.52 | Dagmar | Since I'd just moved back from _San Francisco_ I just kinda guesstimated it at 4.5 and went back to sleep |
| 04:42.28 | Dagmar | In the morning I finally clued in... "Wait... we don't have earthquakes in Nashville all the time" |
| 04:46.03 | Neffi | o schite, House of Cards season 2 came out today |
| 04:50.05 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://pastebin.com || 5.4.x ToC: 50400 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || This channel is logged, via purl || UI changes to battle.net chat in 5.4.7: http://bit.ly/1biaLRQ || Happy cheap chocolate day! |
| 04:50.14 | kd3 | yay, cheap chocolate |
| 04:50.26 | Cairenn | hehehhe |
| 04:52.14 | pompy | kd3: on da news http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/02/14/earthquake-us-sc-ga/5501873/ |
| 04:52.29 | kd3 | http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/usc000mr27#summary |
| 04:52.53 | kd3 | that's all the local news has been talking about... us going from snow to shorts weather to ice to earthquakes |
| 04:53.32 | pompy | kd3: there was lightning here last night haha |
| 04:53.36 | pompy | it was so bizarre |
| 04:54.07 | pompy | snow, ice rain, wind, rain downpour, to lightning and thunder in the same day |
| 04:54.48 | Dagmar | Nothing left to do now but wait for the Sharknado sirens to go off |
| 04:56.11 | pompy | http://www.bradenton.com/2014/02/14/4992714/lightning-hits-jetliner-headed.html |
| 04:57.01 | Semlar | airplanes are designed to handle lightning strikes |
| 05:01.46 | Neffi | yeah, I imagine that's something that happens often |
| 05:04.08 | pompy | Semlar: yes |
| 05:04.49 | pompy | but even tho the article doesnt mention it, it was snowing and raining and in the 20s-30s that day! ;) |
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| 05:08.54 | Fisker | aww Cairenn :( |
| 05:09.05 | Cairenn | ? |
| 05:09.11 | Arrowmaster | wtf i cant view any of the windows shares on this network from linux, everything just keeps timing out |
| 05:09.21 | Fisker | cheap chocolate day |
| 05:09.37 | Cairenn | Yeah, why does that get a frown? Gets a smile from me! |
| 05:10.02 | Fisker | It was free chocolate day yesterday for you |
| 05:10.03 | Fisker | :3 |
| 05:10.09 | Cairenn | nope |
| 05:10.15 | Mr_Rabies | can you clear cached SMB credentials on the linux pc, Arrowmaster? |
| 05:10.28 | Arrowmaster | i dont know |
| 05:10.29 | Fisker | But it should've been Cairenn :( |
| 05:10.33 | Arrowmaster | kd3: any ideas |
| 05:10.34 | Cairenn | Meh |
| 05:10.44 | Mr_Rabies | i seriously don't know that sorta stuff in *nix but that's how i fix issues with my wdtv suddenly timing out SMB stuff |
| 05:10.53 | Mr_Rabies | i clear out its saved login credentials and then it works |
| 05:10.55 | Cairenn | No worries, I go buy myself cheap chocolate later today after I get some sleep |
| 05:10.56 | Arrowmaster | i just get "Failed to retrieve share list from server: Connection timed out" when trying to browse the workgroup |
| 05:11.02 | Arrowmaster | smbtree took forever to run |
| 05:11.32 | Arrowmaster | i think everybody else here is on win7 so maybe its something to do with that |
| 05:11.45 | kd3 | yah, I dunno. I haven't really messed with smb lately |
| 05:12.01 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/ErmyMT0.jpg well here's a valentines card for you Cairenn |
| 05:12.10 | Cairenn | lol |
| 05:12.15 | Cairenn | thanks Fisker :p |
| 05:12.29 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Did you maybe forget to run nmbd? |
| 05:13.06 | Torhal | But....Cairenn...you don't sleep! |
| 05:13.07 | Arrowmaster | i dont think i have it installed |
| 05:13.23 | Cairenn | whoops, did I blow my cover again? |
| 05:13.35 | Dagmar | Yeah you kinda need both smbd and nmbd running |
| 05:14.19 | Arrowmaster | just to browse? never needed it before at home |
| 05:15.25 | Arrowmaster | ill try installing it and winbind |
| 05:15.37 | Dagmar | On the server end they need to be running |
| 05:15.51 | Dagmar | The workstation won't need 'em |
| 05:15.51 | Arrowmaster | there is no server |
| 05:16.06 | Dagmar | So you don't ahve anything actually handling WINS? |
| 05:16.11 | Arrowmaster | nope |
| 05:16.26 | Arrowmaster | i can run smbtree and get all the PC names but i cant connect to them |
| 05:16.37 | Dagmar | Yeah I usually just set a samba server to run with a really high priority so it'll win all the elections and call it done |
| 05:17.08 | Arrowmaster | i might end up the server here if i remember how samba's defaults are |
| 05:17.59 | Arrowmaster | ok got it all running now |
| 05:18.27 | Arrowmaster | might take a while for my new samba server install to take over the network |
| 05:19.25 | Arrowmaster | ok im showing up in smbtree now |
| 05:19.36 | Arrowmaster | along with all my printers |
| 05:19.47 | Arrowmaster | doesnt show that detail for anybody elses pc |
| 05:24.31 | Arrowmaster | ok i got it working but in a completely ghetto way, my tablet is copying from one computer over smb:// and transmitting to mine over sftp:// |
| 05:24.41 | Arrowmaster | its really slow though so this isnt really an option |
| 05:33.18 | Arrowmaster | ok i got a connection by ip working to one of the computers |
| 05:33.52 | Arrowmaster | then i can try running this game in wine |
| 05:33.56 | Sintacks | halp. i'm dumb and i know it's simple and it would take me 20 minutes to even find it cuz i'm dump. how i match a string of text regardless of case ... |
| 05:34.07 | Sintacks | so, "!ToT" would also match "!tot" |
| 05:34.37 | Arrowmaster | [Tt][Oo][Tt] |
| 05:34.59 | kd3 | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/11401890/case-insensitive-lua-pattern-matching |
| 05:35.09 | Sintacks | huggles kd4 |
| 05:35.16 | Sintacks | i upgraded you from a 3 to a 4 |
| 05:35.17 | Sintacks | coughs |
| 05:35.20 | kd3 | yay |
| 05:40.43 | Semlar | convert the string to lowercase and compare that.. |
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| 06:23.59 | Sintacks | that's what i ended up doing, Semlar |
| 06:24.24 | Sintacks | also, some how made it so that the aura i had replied to teh guy i'm helping make an aura's aura ... which then replied to that and that and and that DC'd |
| 06:24.30 | Sintacks | which i'm not sure how happend... |
| 06:24.46 | Sintacks | cuz it should only trigger if the msg string is "!achieve" right ... |
| 06:25.08 | Primer | Anyone know if it's possible to change a sound device's mixer settings in windows? |
| 06:26.18 | Sintacks | http://pastebin.com/S7gUV3P5 |
| 06:26.27 | Sintacks | that triggered a loop when we both had it loaded |
| 06:26.47 | Sintacks | i sent him !meta and then the loop started |
| 06:26.47 | Sintacks | ; |
| 06:26.49 | Semlar | you aren't comparing the rest to msg |
| 06:26.55 | Primer | I want to make it so that when I plug my headphones in that the center channel is equally mixed to left and right, and that the left rear and left right are mixed to front left and right respectively |
| 06:27.15 | Semlar | "!achieve" evaluates to true and so that will always trigger |
| 06:27.37 | Semlar | you meant "or msg == '!achieve'" |
| 06:27.44 | Semlar | etc |
| 06:29.26 | Semlar | elseif (msg == "!meta" or msg == "!achieve" or msg == "!achieves" or msg == "!achievements") then |
| 06:33.18 | Semlar | you could also just make a table with the commands as keys if that would be simpler |
| 06:37.36 | Thunder_Child | Primer: not natively I don't think so. |
| 06:40.49 | Sintacks | oh. yeah. sorry. Semlar, when you said your first line i noticed the problem. |
| 06:40.56 | Sintacks | should have said that before you started fixing it. lol |
| 06:41.01 | Semlar | :l |
| 06:41.29 | Sintacks | I made the core for thsi aura and told him how to edit it to add more triggers |
| 06:41.35 | Sintacks | and every single time, he messed something up. |
| 06:41.36 | Sintacks | lol |
| 06:41.44 | Semlar | that sounds about right |
| 06:42.25 | Primer | TC: I want a better way to from speakers to headphones without having to switch audio devices in all apps |
| 06:42.26 | Sintacks | i thought of optimazions fuclspelkgin three times after i gave him the core too ;| |
| 06:42.50 | Sintacks | Primer, use default in everything and change default device |
| 06:43.11 | Thunder_Child | ^ |
| 06:43.17 | Primer | doesn't work if said apps are already running |
| 06:43.18 | Sintacks | that's what i do |
| 06:43.24 | Sintacks | 4 clicks to change device |
| 06:43.28 | Sintacks | works for me o.O |
| 06:43.32 | Thunder_Child | Well it does in win 8, it did not work for me in win 7 |
| 06:43.37 | Sintacks | does for me in Win 7 |
| 06:44.04 | Sintacks | start playing porn. i mean youtube. and want to switch to headphones so people can't hear moaning. i mean people being stupid. switches instantly. |
| 06:44.49 | Primer | ok, trying that agin |
| 06:45.06 | Primer | turning my headphones back into a dedicated audio device first |
| 06:46.07 | Primer | I recall being able to switch default devices with a single click |
| 06:46.22 | Primer | I don't exactly how though |
| 06:46.22 | Thunder_Child | I had to use a program to that in win7 |
| 06:47.07 | Sintacks | Semlar, how to match "How much" but the message could be more than just "how much" .. like "how much is X" |
| 06:47.18 | Primer | ok, switching the default device works for YT |
| 06:47.47 | Semlar | you could match ^how much .* |
| 06:48.02 | Sintacks | using string.match? |
| 06:49.06 | Semlar | i don't remember if string.match will respect the caret as the beginning of the string |
| 06:49.14 | Semlar | i think it should |
| 06:50.01 | Semlar | you could use string.find if you don't care about the message though |
| 06:50.10 | Sintacks | i don't |
| 06:50.32 | Primer | TC: Do you recall what app did that? |
| 06:51.25 | Semlar | you should be able to just do string.find(msg, '^how much') |
| 06:51.30 | Sintacks | st... |
| 06:51.35 | Sintacks | i was just typing what i thought it needed to be. lol |
| 06:51.40 | Thunder_Child | Primer: I have been looking but alas |
| 06:51.58 | Semlar | the ^ makes sure it only matches from the start of the string |
| 06:52.03 | Sintacks | yeah |
| 06:52.35 | Primer | hrmm, I wonder if that one command line program can do it |
| 06:52.45 | Primer | that multi-tool one |
| 06:53.00 | Primer | nircmd |
| 06:53.18 | Primer | sure enough |
| 06:53.39 | Neffi | Semlar: in some quick tests find is like twice as fast as match |
| 06:53.48 | Neffi | And yes, it does respect the caret |
| 06:54.06 | Semlar | is it really faster |
| 06:54.18 | Thunder_Child | Primer: https://code.google.com/p/audioswitch/ |
| 06:54.20 | Neffi | yeah |
| 06:54.22 | Thunder_Child | Possibly |
| 06:54.33 | Thunder_Child | That is not what I have, but mine is seriously old |
| 06:54.34 | Semlar | odd |
| 06:54.52 | Neffi | I thought so too. But I wasn't really surprised |
| 06:55.06 | Semlar | it shouldn't be that different |
| 06:56.39 | Primer | TC: yup, I found my copy of that just now |
| 06:56.51 | Primer | TC: meaning, that's what I was using before. Thanks |
| 06:57.29 | Neffi | Semlar: http://www.lua.org/source/5.1/lstrlib.c.html#str_find_aux |
| 06:57.53 | Thunder_Child | Primer: Actually, I finally found what I was using. https://www.dropbox.com/s/0x9ogz11mi4efb7/Audio_Switch.7z |
| 06:57.54 | Neffi | The 2nd arg `find` is 1 for string.find and 0 for string.match. You can see the if branch that differentiates them |
| 06:58.05 | Thunder_Child | The aup file can be edited with notepad |
| 06:58.12 | Thunder_Child | The other one is much fancier though |
| 06:58.14 | Neffi | from a quick thumb through of the code, it's not surprising that find is faster |
| 06:58.28 | Thunder_Child | au3* |
| 06:58.39 | Primer | nircmd works too |
| 06:58.44 | Primer | and I can easily script that |
| 06:58.56 | Neffi | "/* do a plain search */" should be telling ;) |
| 06:59.50 | Neffi | Ah nevermind, my eyes are tired |
| 07:00.35 | Semlar | as far as i can tell these are practically identical |
| 07:00.58 | Neffi | Yeah, I skimmed a little too quick |
| 07:01.19 | Semlar | find just returns the offsets |
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| 07:02.08 | Neffi | The codepath for each is very similar. I'd have to dig deeper to account for my results, but the tests did indicate match was slower |
| 07:02.20 | Semlar | what pattern did you use.. |
| 07:02.33 | Semlar | because it's not fair if you used match with more than one result |
| 07:02.58 | Neffi | I can't remember the details off the top of my head |
| 07:03.20 | Semlar | since find stops after the first match |
| 07:05.27 | Primer | ok, bad news is sound in wow does not change |
| 07:05.48 | Primer | it's set to use default device |
| 07:06.06 | Primer | everything else changed fine. YT, mumble, VLC |
| 07:06.09 | Semlar | when you change your default device? |
| 07:06.20 | Semlar | wow won't change until you change it to use something else then back to default |
| 07:06.30 | Primer | hrmm? |
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| 07:06.49 | Primer | I changed it in-game, then exited |
| 07:06.56 | Semlar | if you change your default device in windows, wow will not recognize the change until you switch it to use a different device then back to default |
| 07:07.25 | Primer | tries |
| 07:07.29 | Neffi | If you havent started season 2 of House of Cards yet, do. First episode was great. |
| 07:07.33 | Semlar | i have to do it all the time because i switch between my speakers and headphones with mumble |
| 07:07.36 | Neffi | And if you don't watch House of Cards, start |
| 07:08.10 | Primer | Do I have to exit WoW? |
| 07:08.12 | Semlar | no |
| 07:08.16 | Primer | didn't work |
| 07:08.29 | Semlar | all i do is open up the sound settings, change default to something else in the dropdown menu and go back to the default, i don't even have to hit apply between the changes |
| 07:09.16 | Primer | So you said: Run wow, hit escape, system, sound "game sound output", select something other than default, then back to default? |
| 07:09.28 | Semlar | yeah |
| 07:09.29 | Primer | then I should be able to switch the default device from windows and wow will change too? |
| 07:09.32 | Primer | because it's not |
| 07:09.34 | Semlar | no |
| 07:09.39 | Semlar | you have to change it in windows first |
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| 07:10.10 | Semlar | like if you switch your default device in windows, wow will continue using whatever it was set to before |
| 07:10.18 | Primer | oh wtf, now mumble isn't even switching |
| 07:10.28 | Semlar | are you sure you switched your device |
| 07:10.36 | Primer | YT is switching |
| 07:10.59 | Semlar | i usually just switch it before i launch mumble and wow so i don't have to do this |
| 07:11.17 | Primer | argh, speakers remained "default communication device" |
| 07:11.54 | Semlar | i don't even know what default communication device is for |
| 07:11.58 | Semlar | is that the mic |
| 07:12.23 | Primer | shit like, comm programs |
| 07:12.30 | Primer | apparently mumble is respecting this |
| 07:12.32 | Semlar | they get their own setting? |
| 07:12.43 | Semlar | i usually just set the default sound device |
| 07:13.26 | Semlar | in fact i'm pretty sure my speakers are set as the default communications device |
| 07:13.56 | Semlar | but i think i might have mumble set to explicitly use my headphones, i don't remember |
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| 07:14.38 | Primer | wow just won't switch, even if I use the OS applet |
| 07:14.40 | Primer | to set the default |
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| 07:15.22 | Primer | oh, now it's doing it |
| 07:15.42 | Semlar | i dunno, it definitely works for me |
| 07:16.01 | Semlar | i have to do that nonsense every time i raid |
| 07:16.05 | Primer | it's working now |
| 07:19.23 | Primer | streaming my raid! http://twitch.tv/barfolomeu |
| 07:20.03 | Semlar | i don't have enough bandwidf to stream my raid :l |
| 07:20.45 | Semlar | well, at least not in 1080 pees |
| 07:20.50 | Primer | you might need more bandwidth to watch mine |
| 07:21.10 | Semlar | i only have 1mbps upstream |
| 07:22.05 | Primer | I have 25 |
| 07:22.49 | Semlar | your game is waaaaaay louder than your voip program |
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| 07:32.21 | Sintacks | yay ... i've got this bug again. where when I make a macro, it doedsn't save it when i log out ... |
| 07:32.31 | Sintacks | but when i remake the macro with the same name, it puts it on the bars where it's supposed tob e |
| 07:32.55 | Semlar | maybe it's syncing with something |
| 07:33.25 | Sintacks | and sometimes it makes folders in \WTF\Account\ named SavedVars and ServerName |
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| 07:39.22 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: how did you defeat the red mage? |
| 07:40.38 | Primer | Semlar: luckily I use mumble |
| 07:40.54 | Primer | which lowers the game volume when someone speaks |
| 07:41.11 | Semlar | yeah but the game is uncomfortably loud if the volume is high enough to hear people |
| 07:41.22 | Primer | hrmm? |
| 07:41.44 | Semlar | for me anyway, the game is crazy loud when people aren't talking if my volume is high enough to actually hear them |
| 07:41.54 | Semlar | in your stream |
| 07:42.31 | Primer | perhaps it's no equalizing the sound in the stream |
| 07:42.34 | Primer | not, that is |
| 07:42.45 | Neffi | Sintacks: Also getting character folders directly under Account? And (null) folders? WoW seems to be bugged the hell out with the whole WTF folder right now |
| 07:42.53 | Semlar | i think it's just the sound effect level |
| 07:43.00 | Neffi | sometimes it just doesnt know what the hell it's doing, but luckily it hasnt trashed any data yet |
| 07:43.10 | Semlar | i play with sound effects basically off |
| 07:43.45 | Semlar | trashes neffi's data |
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| 07:45.56 | Neffi | Sintacks: I believe whatever's placed in the action button slot is always saved on the server, so it makes sense that when you remake the macro, the action buttons are already aware of where it belong. |
| 07:46.12 | Neffi | So the real problem is just that it's failing to write out your settings |
| 07:46.17 | Neffi | check permissions |
| 07:46.31 | Neffi | Semlar: i need thart |
| 07:46.57 | Primer | Semlar: I like to enjoy my game |
| 07:47.02 | Primer | with everything it has to offer |
| 07:47.54 | Semlar | neffi go watch the stream and tell me if his sound effects are loud |
| 07:49.05 | Primer | I know it goes down in the stream when people talk |
| 07:49.25 | Primer | because I put videos of boss fight up to YT from the twitch caps |
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| 07:57.19 | Primer | ugh, we one shot this boss last week |
| 08:00.35 | Semlar | more dots |
| 08:01.20 | Primer | fail...healer was DPSing |
| 08:01.55 | Sintacks | Neffi, it did it for a while at first when i was dualboxing and i had a second copy of wow installed for the slave. and then i said fuck it and ran them both from the same install and it fixed. now i'm not boxing and it's still doing it. |
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| 08:04.50 | Semlar | how do you interrupt anything with this comp |
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| 08:05.19 | Primer | tank, SP x 2, sham, boom |
| 08:05.21 | Semlar | two shadow priests, a mage, a hunter and a balance druid? |
| 08:05.24 | Primer | plenty of interrupts |
| 08:05.29 | Primer | and mage |
| 08:05.56 | Primer | AFAIK, only the disc priest has no interrupt |
| 08:06.57 | Semlar | we have a dk and a warrior and myself on gloom |
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| 08:09.32 | Semlar | you don't appear to have any melee |
| 08:12.56 | Semlar | oh, you aren't actually interrupting all of them |
| 08:13.03 | Semlar | your healers are totally carrying you |
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| 08:13.31 | Semlar | your raid is taking a ton of avoidable damage |
| 08:13.46 | Primer | melee does not equate to interrupts |
| 08:13.59 | Primer | you are correct in that we have zero melee |
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| 08:15.29 | Primer | I set Skada to show interrupts |
| 08:15.43 | Semlar | i am going to be pissed if you can make the enrage timer like this |
| 08:15.57 | Primer | not gonna happen |
| 08:16.32 | Neffi | Sintacks: I don't dual box, and I get some issues, so that's probably not it. As far as I can tell, it's a bug in the client |
| 08:17.27 | Neffi | Whatever's responsible for handling WTF-related stuff has been fragile lately |
| 08:17.44 | Semlar | it's a little bullshit that you have a healer doing that much damage though |
| 08:18.11 | Semlar | and your tank is outdamaging your mage |
| 08:18.20 | Primer | he died early like I did |
| 08:18.28 | Semlar | his dps is still lower |
| 08:18.51 | Semlar | unless you have skada set up to average that differently |
| 08:19.04 | Guest42879 | Thunder_Child: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10100273169548228&set=a.835300743848.2201987.39704112&type=1&theater |
| 08:19.21 | Primer | it's set to straight up damage |
| 08:19.42 | Semlar | it shows dps next to it |
| 08:19.56 | Semlar | 186k for the mage, 198k for the monk |
| 08:20.22 | Semlar | in recount if somebody dies their dps doesn't go down, it stops counting time against their damage |
| 08:21.22 | Semlar | i don't know if skada averages their damage over the entire fight or works the same way |
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| 08:29.45 | Semlar | it appears to just periodically recalculate the average dps using the fight length |
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| 08:39.18 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure i would be outdamaging that balance druid if i had your hunter's weapon |
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| 09:01.17 | Sintacks | slaps Semlar around a bit with a large trout | 4,821 tributes to Monty Python |
| 09:01.31 | Semlar | explodes |
| 09:02.06 | Semlar | why you do dis |
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| 09:26.16 | Primer | so yeah, now wow's audio doesn't switch any more |
| 09:27.26 | Primer | it's just totally inconsistent |
| 09:27.38 | Primer | everything else switches |
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| 11:41.40 | Sintacks | is there a /click for rightclick ... |
| 11:48.33 | Semlar | i saw someone mention that /click actually sends additional arguments to the onclick handler |
| 11:49.13 | Semlar | so you could try doing something like /click button RightButton and see if that works |
| 11:50.40 | Semlar | sintacks |
| 11:51.22 | Semlar | more importantly, how the hell do i change where DBM moves its warning bars when they're about to expire |
| 11:53.24 | Semlar | ah i found it |
| 11:53.39 | Semlar | the example bar is just under the options window so it's really hard to see |
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| 12:58.20 | Sintacks | lol @ DBM bars |
| 12:58.28 | Sintacks | i was wiping to LFR garrosh |
| 12:58.36 | Sintacks | wait. that was an hour ago... |
| 12:58.40 | Sintacks | i'm not sure what i was doing |
| 12:58.43 | Semlar | and it's still happening! |
| 12:58.47 | Sintacks | prob wiping to LFR paragons |
| 12:59.30 | Sintacks | I redid part of SacriRaidBuffed to include visions of insanity and use the usable thing's icon and not hte buff's icon. weee |
| 12:59.57 | Semlar | is there a way to trigger a weak aura and have it last for 30 seconds OR until spell_aura_removed is detected |
| 13:01.40 | Sintacks | yes |
| 13:01.49 | Sintacks | thats' what i had to do with the ironbark aura i made for someone. |
| 13:01.52 | Sintacks | lemme see what i did |
| 13:02.30 | Sintacks | what kind of trigger are you using? |
| 13:02.40 | Semlar | spell_aura_applied |
| 13:02.42 | Sintacks | cuz i did a custom trigger with event CLEU |
| 13:03.02 | Semlar | i'm using the built in combat log event |
| 13:03.06 | Sintacks | k. |
| 13:03.25 | Semlar | i don't know if you can "untrigger" it without doing a custom thing |
| 13:04.03 | Sintacks | yeah. i'm not sure either. |
| 13:04.07 | Sintacks | what buff are you tracking? o.O |
| 13:04.20 | Semlar | i want to track murder of crows |
| 13:04.33 | Sintacks | ahh. and it doesn't fade if they die right? |
| 13:04.41 | Sintacks | or some stupid thing |
| 13:04.48 | Semlar | it's just a debuff |
| 13:04.57 | Semlar | but i might not be targeting what i have it on |
| 13:05.04 | Sintacks | oo |
| 13:05.13 | Sintacks | yeah. that's why i did a custom aura for barkskin |
| 13:05.14 | Semlar | and i want the trigger to despawn if it fell off somehow |
| 13:05.27 | Sintacks | not sure you can do it with the builtin |
| 13:05.30 | Semlar | which really shouldn't ever happen but i'll probably need this for something else anyway |
| 13:05.36 | Sintacks | but a custom would give you the same performance |
| 13:05.48 | Semlar | or i guess if the unit dies |
| 13:06.06 | Sintacks | yeah. that's why i wanted time OR buff falling off for ironbark for this guy |
| 13:07.08 | Sintacks | http://pastebin.com/Y6TjuBBE |
| 13:07.15 | Sintacks | that's the ironbark one if you want to look at how i did it |
| 13:07.23 | Sintacks | ignore the naming and stupidity of it... i didn't make it for me. |
| 13:07.25 | nevcairiel | malware! |
| 13:07.30 | Sintacks | lool |
| 13:07.33 | Semlar | this is going to shard all my purples isn't it |
| 13:07.43 | Sintacks | no. it's going to send me all your gold. |
| 13:07.49 | Semlar | you're not even on my server |
| 13:07.55 | Sintacks | you don't know that |
| 13:07.59 | Semlar | I DO KNOW THAT |
| 13:08.04 | Sintacks | lol |
| 13:08.05 | Semlar | I SEE YOU |
| 13:08.28 | Sintacks | i have a spy on your server |
| 13:08.34 | Semlar | ! |
| 13:10.06 | Sintacks | you would need to track the GUID for the target for your think wouldn't you |
| 13:10.16 | Semlar | only if i want to track if it died |
| 13:10.39 | Semlar | i guess i could store a global for it |
| 13:10.46 | Sintacks | actually now that i thinik about it, you wouldn't yeah. cuz you would only be matching a single mob with your debuff on it |
| 13:10.53 | Sintacks | so it wouldn't matter if there weere 18902734289374 with the same name |
| 13:11.12 | Semlar | it'll never be on more than one target at a time |
| 13:11.18 | Semlar | so that's no problem |
| 13:11.25 | Sintacks | yeah |
| 13:11.30 | Sintacks | i was thinking of something else i think |
| 13:11.42 | Sintacks | why dose WIM have a /wim rl command to reload the ui |
| 13:11.50 | Sintacks | /reload vs /wim rl |
| 13:12.03 | Sintacks | heh. /wim rl might be faster to type |
| 13:12.08 | Sintacks | but /rl wins anyway |
| 13:12.08 | Sintacks | so mehn |
| 13:12.21 | Semlar | i would probably type reload faster |
| 13:12.27 | Semlar | since it's an actual word |
| 13:12.40 | Semlar | and i've typed it about a bajillion times |
| 13:12.45 | Sintacks | lol |
| 13:14.14 | Sintacks | so my marking aura for Blackfuse is pretty good... only bugs out if the boss2/3/4 shows up as Unknown for a second when all three have shown up :| |
| 13:15.04 | Sintacks | i could fix that i think buy making it's untrigger timed so that it rechecks every second... but that i think would be annoying. |
| 13:15.24 | Semlar | you could delay the first check slightly |
| 13:15.38 | Sintacks | i could use a different on trigger or delay it i guess. |
| 13:15.43 | Sintacks | but i'm not sure how to do that easily |
| 13:15.46 | Semlar | i don't know if the guid is available when their name is unknown |
| 13:15.51 | Semlar | if it is you could use that instead |
| 13:16.08 | Sintacks | yeah. someone suggested that when iw as first working on it |
| 13:16.11 | Sintacks | but i decided not to do it |
| 13:16.11 | Sintacks | lol |
| 13:16.13 | Semlar | it was me |
| 13:16.43 | Semlar | i'm going to change this to spell_cast_success because if this is triggering spell_aura_applied it isn't with the player as the source |
| 13:16.52 | Sintacks | function() if UnitExists("boss2") and UnitExists("boss3") and UnitExists("boss4") then return true end end |
| 13:16.56 | Sintacks | that's the trigger |
| 13:17.18 | Sintacks | untrigger is just if not unitexist boss4 |
| 13:17.47 | Semlar | you could do return UnitExists("boss2") and UnitExists("boss3") and UnitExists("boss4") |
| 13:17.49 | Semlar | not that it matters |
| 13:18.10 | Sintacks | for the trigger? |
| 13:18.19 | Semlar | just instead of writing the if statement like that |
| 13:18.22 | Sintacks | yeah. i see how that would work now |
| 13:18.38 | Semlar | since if one of them isn't true it'll just return false |
| 13:19.23 | Semlar | i'm trying to decide how i should indicate that my pet isn't attacking |
| 13:19.40 | Sintacks | is there a return for petattack being on? |
| 13:20.00 | Sintacks | that reminds me: i want to make a custom trigger for Blade Flurry to tell me to turn it off if i haven't done damage in 2 seconds with it |
| 13:20.01 | Semlar | i have the trigger, i just don't know how i should make it look yet |
| 13:20.11 | Sintacks | ahh |
| 13:21.19 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:21.34 | Sintacks | WTF THAT DELETED MY TOON |
| 13:21.40 | Semlar | typical |
| 13:21.49 | Semlar | i'm not very good with computers |
| 13:22.13 | Semlar | it keeps track of whether the pet has attacked within the last couple seconds |
| 13:22.18 | Sintacks | I thought i read something that weakauras was going to warn you when you tried to import an aura with a custom trigger |
| 13:22.22 | Sintacks | yeah. is ee that. |
| 13:23.13 | Sintacks | is 2 seconds long enough? |
| 13:23.31 | Semlar | it's enough for me to know the pet isn't hitting its target |
| 13:24.13 | Semlar | my pet's swing timer is 1.39 seconds without frenzy so it's probably 1.5 base |
| 13:24.17 | Sintacks | i didn't thijnk thye melee attacked that fast |
| 13:24.33 | Semlar | possibly 2, i have a decent amount of haste |
| 13:25.14 | Semlar | yeah i think the base is probably 2 seconds |
| 13:26.07 | Semlar | it's a good indicator of whether the pet is out of range or dead or something |
| 13:26.26 | Sintacks | or stuck some where lool |
| 13:26.32 | Semlar | pets are retarded |
| 13:27.02 | Semlar | my pet can't keep up with thok after he gets like 10 stacks |
| 13:27.33 | Semlar | so if you play a hunter i would definitely not use stampede while thok is not stationary |
| 13:29.53 | Sintacks | why is the editor indenting this .... |
| 13:30.15 | Semlar | when you go to import? |
| 13:30.19 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:30.20 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:30.20 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:31.07 | Sintacks | ah. because of how the end is |
| 13:31.17 | Sintacks | if i put the end on the next line, it goes to how i think it should look |
| 13:31.26 | Sintacks | meh |
| 13:31.57 | Sintacks | if I hide the aura after 1 second of it showing up, then it'll recheck the aura on the next frame. |
| 13:32.14 | Sintacks | Or, i could move everything into the custom aura and have it run the whole thing on update |
| 13:32.29 | Semlar | do everything on update! |
| 13:32.35 | Sintacks | instead of using the custom on action |
| 13:34.47 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:34.48 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:34.54 | Semlar | i'm trying to decide if having it spam an animation repeatedly whenever i don't have aspect of the hawk up would be too annoying |
| 13:34.54 | Sintacks | is that valid ... |
| 13:34.59 | Sintacks | why do i do this shit when i'm tired |
| 13:35.17 | Semlar | GeTime? |
| 13:35.22 | Sintacks | derp. |
| 13:35.26 | Semlar | should that be GetTime() |
| 13:35.26 | Sintacks | well, is tghe syntax right |
| 13:36.23 | zenzelezz | I have no previous experience with Cogentco, but right now I hate their very guts. They seem to be the problem between me and the WoT servers. Getting frequent 20%+ packet loss |
| 13:36.29 | Semlar | i would probably do it like GetTime() > BF_GetTime + 1 |
| 13:37.24 | Semlar | or set the variable you're comparing to to be the actual end time and then just check if GetTime() is greater than that |
| 13:38.24 | Sintacks | is setting a var onupdate bad. lol |
| 13:38.39 | Semlar | meh |
| 13:38.43 | Sintacks | all dem micro seconds |
| 13:38.59 | Semlar | you're asking someone whose nameplates use like a hundred times more cpu than anyone else's |
| 13:39.07 | Sintacks | lololol |
| 13:39.11 | Sintacks | you're weird, btw |
| 13:39.37 | Sintacks | BF_GetTime = GetTime() + 1 ; if GetTime() > BF_GetTime |
| 13:39.37 | Sintacks | ? |
| 13:39.48 | Semlar | should work |
| 13:40.08 | Semlar | unless you're setting that on update in which case that'll never trigger |
| 13:40.28 | Semlar | you're only setting that variable once right |
| 13:41.18 | Sintacks | hmm |
| 13:41.38 | Sintacks | aren't they seperate functions though. so they would recall GetTime properly |
| 13:42.10 | Sintacks | setting it in custom trigger, checking it in custom untrigger. |
| 13:42.14 | Semlar | what are you setting BF_GetTime in response to |
| 13:42.30 | Sintacks | the first update where boss 2 3 and 4 exist |
| 13:42.53 | Semlar | as long as it doesn't keep getting set then it's fine |
| 13:42.59 | Sintacks | now that i think about it, i should set the time when i try to mark and fail |
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| 13:44.59 | Sintacks | now to get into LFR blackfuse and hope we wipe. lulz |
| 13:45.23 | Sintacks | oh... and hope i can get assist so i can mark ... |
| 13:45.35 | Sintacks | AND hope that one of the bugs and shows up unknown |
| 13:45.51 | Sintacks | fuck i should be asleep. |
| 13:45.56 | Sintacks | no wait. i don't have a raid tonight. it was moved to tomorrow |
| 13:46.01 | Semlar | NO SLEEP |
| 13:46.15 | Semlar | AURAS TO DO |
| 13:47.07 | Sintacks | wow. roads are covered in snow again |
| 13:47.19 | Sintacks | so how would i ahve to do this guid thing you kept telling me |
| 13:47.31 | Semlar | spells\blackfuse_autohealbeam_impact.m2 <- giant green plus signs everywhere |
| 13:47.32 | Sintacks | lol |
| 13:47.51 | Semlar | well you can pull the npc id out of the guid |
| 13:47.56 | Semlar | and compare that instead of the name |
| 13:48.19 | Sintacks | that would also make it work for other locales roo |
| 13:48.20 | Sintacks | too* |
| 13:48.28 | Semlar | tonumber(UnitGUID("target"):sub(6, 10), 16))) |
| 13:48.51 | Sintacks | so the question becomes, is the guid valid if the mob shows up as unknown for a sec. |
| 13:49.02 | Semlar | indeed |
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| 13:49.23 | Semlar | just make sure the guid exists first |
| 13:49.35 | Sintacks | if the unitexists it's guidshould exist right? |
| 13:49.42 | Semlar | yeah |
| 13:49.50 | Semlar | if UnitGUID returns something the unit exists |
| 13:50.12 | Semlar | you can use it instead of checking UnitExists if you're going to use the guid for something else |
| 13:50.38 | Semlar | like local guid = UnitGUID('boss2') if guid then boss2 exists |
| 13:50.39 | Sintacks | that would require running all the ifs in the trigger |
| 13:51.00 | Sintacks | ahh |
| 13:51.01 | Sintacks | i see what you mean |
| 13:51.17 | Sintacks | that would make sure the guid exists before it passes it to the custom action |
| 13:51.26 | Semlar | it should |
| 13:51.54 | Semlar | but UnitExists should also return true consistently with UnitGUID so i think the unknown name is probably just the name |
| 13:52.20 | Semlar | it would be odd for UnitExists to return true before UnitGUID has data |
| 13:53.19 | Sintacks | makes sense |
| 13:53.21 | Semlar | it's a little odd that it returns true when the name is still unknown but it's understandable since visible units can take a while to update things like their name and reactions |
| 13:53.28 | Semlar | but you can still see them in the combat log and should see their guid |
| 13:54.23 | Semlar | i'm using siegecrafter's healbeam model to show mend pet |
| 13:54.38 | Sintacks | lol |
| 13:55.01 | DJJeff | so addons that use custom channels to communicate can have fake data injected into them |
| 13:55.08 | Sintacks | yea |
| 13:55.10 | DJJeff | will this be fixed next expansion |
| 13:55.15 | Semlar | no |
| 13:55.15 | Sintacks | there's no way to fix it |
| 13:55.30 | DJJeff | http://www.curseforge.com/media/attachments/47/375/WoWScrnShot_020914_205040.jpg |
| 13:55.32 | Semlar | you're relying on data being provided from unreliable sources |
| 13:55.54 | Semlar | you can take precautions but you can't really make absolutely certain it can't be tampered with |
| 13:55.55 | Sintacks | yeah Jeff. someone did it and set them all to 420% |
| 13:56.00 | DJJeff | yes |
| 13:56.02 | DJJeff | that was me |
| 13:56.06 | DJJeff | did you not notice that? |
| 13:56.08 | Sintacks | oh |
| 13:56.10 | Sintacks | so you're doing it again? |
| 13:56.14 | DJJeff | are you Area52 horde? |
| 13:56.25 | Sintacks | No. i've seen the screenshot of it being set to that |
| 13:56.31 | Sintacks | I used to be A52 though. |
| 13:56.36 | Sintacks | My hunter and priest are still there |
| 13:56.45 | DJJeff | whats worse |
| 13:56.57 | DJJeff | is I was able to get mod status of RCELVA |
| 13:57.03 | DJJeff | and kick everyone from the channel |
| 13:57.07 | DJJeff | and password protect it |
| 13:57.16 | DJJeff | causeing the addon to flip out |
| 13:57.22 | Sintacks | how'd you manage to get mod/ |
| 13:57.34 | DJJeff | someone passed me mod because I asked them too |
| 13:57.39 | Sintacks | lol dumbasss |
| 13:57.44 | Semlar | now that would be completely preventable if blizzard would just implement non-retarded channels |
| 13:58.09 | Semlar | you should be able to communicate globally with an addon without having to deal with CHAT channels |
| 13:58.12 | DJJeff | for a good 3 hours this morning RCELVA on A52-Horde |
| 13:58.19 | DJJeff | no one could use that rare addon |
| 13:58.26 | Sintacks | i don't see that as a bad thing |
| 13:58.27 | Sintacks | =p |
| 13:58.50 | DJJeff | some people in general chat actually started to laugh and shutoff the rare addon |
| 13:58.58 | DJJeff | others well..... they wanted me dead |
| 13:59.06 | Sintacks | you can break un-config'd Jamba by changing the password on teh default channel before people logon |
| 13:59.13 | Sintacks | and most people dont know to change the custom channel for jamba |
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| 13:59.59 | DJJeff | this is the 420% screenshot |
| 13:59.59 | DJJeff | http://www.curseforge.com/media/attachments/47/376/WoWScrnShot_020814_205627.jpg |
| 14:00.35 | DJJeff | the addon author was like..... sorry we can not fix this bug |
| 14:00.56 | Semlar | it's not a bug |
| 14:01.02 | Semlar | you're just abusing the system |
| 14:01.07 | Sintacks | ohh.. 420% health.. okay.. |
| 14:01.10 | Sintacks | derp. i'm dumb. |
| 14:01.20 | Sintacks | i thought you made the time 420%.. completely breaking it. |
| 14:01.38 | DJJeff | not sure if thats even possible |
| 14:01.53 | DJJeff | because the time is set to EPOCH |
| 14:02.04 | DJJeff | well.... time since epoch |
| 14:02.12 | Sintacks | 1392472927 |
| 14:02.14 | Sintacks | zomg |
| 14:02.14 | DJJeff | yes |
| 14:02.27 | Sintacks | i still don't get why it's $ctime in mIRC |
| 14:02.37 | Sintacks | wtf does the c standfor |
| 14:02.49 | DJJeff | root@jeff [/]# date +%s |
| 14:02.49 | DJJeff | 1392472962 |
| 14:02.56 | DJJeff | thats how you would do it in linux |
| 14:03.06 | Sintacks | GetTime() in lua. i know that. |
| 14:03.07 | Sintacks | lol |
| 14:03.10 | Sintacks | no wait |
| 14:03.14 | Sintacks | time() |
| 14:03.17 | Sintacks | fuck idk |
| 14:03.20 | Sintacks | i'm tired |
| 14:03.31 | Sintacks | yeah. time() |
| 14:03.32 | DJJeff | its 6am for me (california time) |
| 14:03.42 | Sintacks | 9am here |
| 14:03.51 | DJJeff | EST for you PST for me |
| 14:03.57 | Sintacks | no wai |
| 14:03.58 | Sintacks | logic |
| 14:04.00 | Sintacks | that's crazy |
| 14:04.03 | DJJeff | haha |
| 14:04.11 | Sintacks | i thought about just saying EST here |
| 14:04.15 | Sintacks | but meh |
| 14:04.39 | Sintacks | dat long healer queue for LFR :( |
| 14:04.46 | Sintacks | i wish there was somewhere else to test this |
| 14:05.22 | DJJeff | this is how I was using linux to generate the data to inject into RCELVA |
| 14:05.23 | DJJeff | http://puu.sh/6X2dX.png |
| 14:06.29 | Sintacks | wat |
| 14:06.39 | DJJeff | actually more like.... |
| 14:06.40 | DJJeff | http://puu.sh/6X2hX.png |
| 14:06.57 | Sintacks | how the hell do you use putty to send shit to wow |
| 14:07.12 | DJJeff | no no no..... I use putty to generate the list |
| 14:07.18 | DJJeff | and copy and paste it into wow |
| 14:07.19 | Sintacks | o |
| 14:07.38 | Semlar | you could undoubtedly just get the addon to broadcast fake messages for you |
| 14:08.06 | DJJeff | probley ya just modify the rare addon lua file |
| 14:08.22 | Sintacks | lol |
| 14:08.26 | Sintacks | constatly make them all 100% |
| 14:08.28 | DJJeff | would not even need to alt tab out to putty |
| 14:08.52 | Sintacks | people could ignore you and it would fix it (on their end) right? |
| 14:09.03 | DJJeff | correct |
| 14:09.17 | DJJeff | hence why I gave up and just put a password on the channel |
| 14:09.39 | DJJeff | causing about 50+ people on A52 to rage |
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| 14:10.17 | Sintacks | it could use sendaddonmessage whisper. but that could cause issues. like getting DC'd for spam. lul. |
| 14:10.43 | DJJeff | only 6 people use the addon on my realm.... Fizzcrank (Failcrank) |
| 14:10.50 | Semlar | it can't use sendaddonmessage |
| 14:10.56 | Sintacks | but as Semlar said, there's no way to protect the addon without blizzard making it themselves where you can't inject fake info |
| 14:11.00 | DJJeff | which is about 87% Alliance |
| 14:11.15 | Semlar | the reason it's using a global channel is because it doesn't know who else is running the addon |
| 14:11.32 | Sintacks | sure it can, Semlar. do a /who on the island and send a "do you have this addon" request when it sees someone knew. if they have it, they reply that they do. |
| 14:11.41 | Sintacks | now thehard part, would be sending out the messages to keep everyone in sync |
| 14:12.11 | Sintacks | that's (kind of) how SuperGuildInvite works. |
| 14:12.13 | Semlar | that addon isn't restricted to the island but i guess it could fall back on that |
| 14:12.46 | Sintacks | it sends you an addon message to see if you have the addon, or if you have an addon to block the addon (yes, it's that stupid) |
| 14:12.49 | DJJeff | hrmmmm I will bring this idea to the rare addon author see what they say |
| 14:12.57 | Sintacks | and if you don't hafve the addon and aren't in a guild, it sends you a guild invite |
| 14:13.04 | Sintacks | when the player presses the button |
| 14:13.12 | Sintacks | that they have a hard/software macro spamming ... |
| 14:13.16 | Semlar | it's not going to bloody well make a difference, you can still spoof the messages |
| 14:13.38 | DJJeff | if you know the channel it uses yes |
| 14:14.03 | Semlar | you don't have to know anything, you can literally just trick your version of the addon into sending whatever message you want |
| 14:14.18 | Sintacks | lol. i meant to get it out of a public channel |
| 14:14.52 | Semlar | if the channel is lost it could just fall back on an alternatively named channel until it successfully joins it |
| 14:14.54 | Sintacks | shit. i forgot to make the guid checking dupe to test this |
| 14:15.19 | DJJeff | I need to head out to work |
| 14:15.23 | Semlar | can't join RARE_CHAN1 then fall back on RARE_CHAN2 |
| 14:15.24 | DJJeff | thanks for feedback guys |
| 14:17.02 | Sintacks | Message: ..\AddOns\Grid\Statuses\GridStatusHeals.lua line 115: |
| 14:17.03 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:17.03 | Sintacks | shit |
| 14:17.13 | Semlar | well why'd you do that |
| 14:17.22 | Semlar | you can't just go around comparing things to things |
| 14:17.35 | Semlar | everything is the same |
| 14:17.37 | Sintacks | the count is inf. lolol |
| 14:18.07 | Semlar | sounds like it's nil |
| 14:18.17 | Sintacks | i meant the number of errors thrown |
| 14:18.23 | Sintacks | addon shows it as inf |
| 14:18.25 | Semlar | that's a lot of errors |
| 14:20.39 | Sintacks | cuz it's erroring on update |
| 14:21.29 | Sintacks | i see why. i'm setting the var when I fail to makr, because of an unknown name. but at the front, i'm trying to see if the time since exists |
| 14:22.15 | Sintacks | (GetTime() > BF_GetTime or 0) would that work? |
| 14:22.29 | Sintacks | i think i've seen someone do something semilar |
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| 14:22.45 | Semlar | if BF_GetTime is nil it'll default to 0 |
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| 14:23.08 | Semlar | it'll immediately make that true, is that what you want |
| 14:23.12 | Sintacks | but it's trying to compare a number to nil and not 0 |
| 14:23.22 | Sintacks | hmm. no |
| 14:23.37 | Amarande | Sintacks: which is one of the things I always found inherently irritating about Lua |
| 14:23.54 | Amarande | NULL makes sense in other languages too for data and string pointers, but even an uninitialised number ought to be a *number* :S |
| 14:24.50 | Amarande | and, of course, nil isn't a number. it's nil. it forces you to be on guard for the possibility of non-number data when you ought to be able to comfortably expect to be working solely with numbers. :) |
| 14:25.03 | Sintacks | so what i want is if not UnitExists("boss4") OR TimeSinceISetTimeWhenFailedToSetAMark > 1 then return true |
| 14:25.26 | Sintacks | but the time since i set it, might not exist |
| 14:25.27 | Semlar | you could do if (BF_GetTime and (GetTime() > BF_GetTime)) |
| 14:25.40 | Sintacks | that makes sense |
| 14:26.02 | Semlar | if you want it to basically ignore that part if BF_GetTime isn't set |
| 14:26.19 | Sintacks | yeah. |
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| 14:27.39 | Semlar | that isn't much different than comparing GetTime() to 0 |
| 14:28.45 | Sintacks | i'm gonna have to set BF_GetTime to nil when i do set a mark though so it won't hide the aura until boss4 stops existing. |
| 14:29.10 | Sintacks | so that it's not running the whole if every update |
| 14:33.49 | Sintacks | hmm. even when it fails, BF_GetTime isn't getting set |
| 14:33.50 | Sintacks | o.O |
| 14:34.09 | Semlar | well why not |
| 14:34.48 | Sintacks | not sure |
| 14:35.02 | Sintacks | else |
| 14:35.02 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:35.02 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:35.02 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:35.21 | Sintacks | it's printing those two lines |
| 14:35.27 | Sintacks | but when i /dump BF_GetTime it's nil |
| 14:35.59 | Semlar | is something setting it to nil |
| 14:36.07 | Sintacks | not yet |
| 14:36.29 | Sintacks | unless i have something else I dont know about that uses BF_GetTime as a global |
| 14:38.26 | Sintacks | and by the time i tried to change the var there weren't 4 bosses anymore (on paragons, cuz lol i can debug this on paragons) |
| 14:39.49 | Sintacks | i could go do some debug testing in MSV normal by myself if i wnated too... |
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| 15:10.00 | Sintacks | welp. there went my first lockup after fresh reinstall |
| 15:10.25 | Semlar | ^_^ |
| 15:10.39 | Sintacks | that pisses me off |
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| 15:49.16 | SynErr | okay... so you can't change the install dir in battle.net app to something else to try to force an install |
| 15:49.23 | SynErr | and you can't download the installer to install it somewhere else. |
| 15:49.25 | SynErr | dafuq |
| 15:54.46 | SynErr | have to uninstall battle.net, then rename the current install's folder then run the installer |
| 15:54.52 | SynErr | cuz i don't want to just copy from the SSD to the HDD |
| 15:55.12 | SynErr | going to run from HDD for a week and see if i crash. if i don't, then i'm going to assume something is wrong with my SSD |
| 15:58.50 | Sintacks | why didn't my ghost script work... |
| 15:59.18 | Sintacks | dafuq |
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| 16:01.43 | Sintacks | Downstream: 5887.57 KBytes/s Upstream: 77.67 KBytes/s |
| 16:01.45 | Sintacks | dat download doe |
| 16:06.21 | karl_w_w | Sintacks, can I |
| 16:06.24 | karl_w_w | ...has? |
| 16:07.31 | karl_w_w | that's 10x my speed in both directions |
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| 16:23.21 | Stanzilla | DJJeff: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/rarecoordinator/tickets/49-its-possible-to-grief-addon/ is this you? |
| 16:25.52 | Amarande | *sigh* |
| 16:25.59 | Amarande | what EXACTLY is it that drives people to get jollies from griefing |
| 16:26.08 | Amarande | especially griefing that doesn't give any actual concrete benefit to the griefer |
| 16:26.30 | Amarande | I mean, it's one thing to, say, go to Uldum with your 90 on a PvP server and harvest the helpless 82-84's for easy honour |
| 16:26.51 | Amarande | it's douchebaggy, some people will call you a griefer, but it's permitted in game, and more importantly, it's something with a logical reason to do |
| 16:27.08 | Amarande | it's quite another to screw up people's addons for no good reason than to screw up their addons with no benefit to you :S |
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| 16:53.54 | kullervo | Amarande: depends on the addon |
| 16:54.28 | kullervo | I can see how there might be benefit in having other players run for non-existing rares |
| 16:54.59 | kullervo | like on the timeless isle that would be a perfect trap for some coin farming |
| 16:56.18 | Amarande | heh, it also just occurred to me when noting my example that Uldum griefing is potentially a lot nastier than ever now ... it's a good thing WoW is getting back to 10 level expansions which will get rid of most of that kind of phenomenon |
| 16:56.31 | Amarande | specifically, because pre-86 zones are CRZ'd |
| 16:56.56 | Amarande | it used to be that if you were a ganking arsehat, well, then someone would go get their 90, and possibly their friends' 90s to give you a beatdown |
| 16:57.13 | Amarande | I'm guessing that's practically impossible now though because of the high element of luck involved in CRZing |
| 16:57.30 | Amarande | i.e., not only do you need to have a 90 that can beat the griefer's 90, but you also have to be lucky enough to land the same CRZ instance when you come back with them. :| |
| 16:57.39 | kullervo | I in fact haven't ever seen anyone in lowlvl zones |
| 16:58.04 | Amarande | yeah, I imagine it's rare in low level zones, the only time I've even encountered ganking so far on Illidan was in the mid 30s in Southern Barrens |
| 16:58.09 | Amarande | (and it was the same player both times I got gotten, too) |
| 16:58.44 | Amarande | what I'm not sure is if the honour is worth it in the 82-85 zones to go around with a 90 giving out beatdowns |
| 16:59.05 | Amarande | (it's also a unique artefact of the five-level-expansion idea, because normally in the same situation with 10 level expansions, the equivalent players would be grey) |
| 17:00.12 | Amarande | hrm I think I'm being way too stingy with resources in Torchlight :) |
| 17:00.25 | Amarande | I'm like "okay I'd better keep the top tier potions & such for the final boss instead of using them in this random dungeon" |
| 17:00.38 | Amarande | ... I'm level 39, I get the feeling that the random dungeon bosses are already stronger than the final boss will be LOL |
| 17:00.59 | Amarande | given the trend of mob levels in the main dungeon the dragon surely isn't much higher level than 30 |
| 17:12.13 | Guest42879 | omg |
| 17:12.16 | Guest42879 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAJYk1jOhzk&sns=fb |
| 17:12.21 | Guest42879 | epic Frozen / Let it Go cover ^ |
| 17:20.36 | karl_w_w | to be an epic cover it would have to be better than the original :P |
| 17:24.42 | Arrowmaster | are their any good 10+ player coop games anybody can think of? |
| 17:25.09 | Thunder_Child | You mean at least 10 people on the screen? |
| 17:25.16 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 17:25.24 | Arrowmaster | just 10 player |
| 17:25.34 | Arrowmaster | for PC |
| 17:25.42 | Thunder_Child | Like Counter Strike? |
| 17:25.55 | Arrowmaster | not coop |
| 17:26.03 | Amarande | Arrowmaster: MMOs? :) |
| 17:26.05 | Thunder_Child | It is per team |
| 17:26.14 | Arrowmaster | ok games up got to go |
| 17:26.20 | karl_w_w | you mean 10 people vs the game? |
| 17:26.31 | Amarande | I can't think of any MMO that's not got at least one piece of content for 10+ players |
| 17:26.54 | Amarande | LOTRO has 12-mans and a couple 24's, WoW has 10-25, SW:TOR has a 16-man mode, even the first Guild Wars had a couple of 12-man dungeons |
| 17:27.10 | Amarande | think in FFXI a full "raid" equivalent was 18 |
| 17:27.20 | karl_w_w | there's probably a tower defense game that fits the bill but I don't know of any specifically |
| 17:27.21 | Amarande | foggy about FFXIV or Everquest :S |
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| 17:28.11 | Arrow|tablet | So come up with any? |
| 17:28.51 | karl_w_w | .:karl_w_w:. there's probably a tower defense game that fits the bill but I don't know of any specifically |
| 17:29.31 | karl_w_w | it's a pretty narrow category, you might be able to find something on the SC2 arcade or whatever it's called |
| 17:29.45 | Arrow|tablet | Had issues getting warcraft3 running last night |
| 17:30.05 | Guest42879 | karl_w_w: going to go ahead and disagree with that one |
| 17:30.10 | Guest42879 | but I do agree I still think the original is better |
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| 18:08.46 | Neffi | http://imgur.com/gallery/29bGu lol |
| 18:12.11 | amro | dungeon keeper is free on gog until tomorrow |
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| 18:26.16 | Arrow|tablet | So I'm playing ut2k4 through wine because I couldn't find the Linux binaries fast enough |
| 18:26.54 | Amarande | amro: snagged it :) and hopefully this is EA genuinely trying to repair the brand's rep and not a marketing plug to get people interested in the tablet version :) |
| 18:27.36 | Amarande | which, far as I can gather from reviews, isn't even really a ... what was it supposed to be? a "game" or something like that, apparently? ROFL |
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| 18:35.22 | VIad | any tips regarding some map addon that allows showing the quest POI and blobs on the worldmap? |
| 18:35.38 | VIad | i.e. when you zoom out from the zone view, I'd like them to show on the parent map, and the parent parent map even if possible :P |
| 18:35.45 | VIad | always knowing where the quests you got are located |
| 18:36.25 | Guest42879 | important question of the day |
| 18:36.29 | Guest42879 | do I buy a 3DS just for Pokemon? |
| 18:37.08 | VIad | Guest42879: I did, but there are many other cool games out there, that I haven't had time to play :P |
| 18:37.24 | Guest42879 | I have only ever played red/blue |
| 18:37.30 | Guest42879 | actually, I have only ever played red |
| 18:37.36 | Guest42879 | is it worth it? |
| 18:38.26 | Thunder_Child | Guest42879: I got one for a few games, one of which was pokemon. |
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| 18:39.47 | Amarande | yeah if I get a 3DS it'll probably be at first mainly for SMT4 |
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| 18:52.50 | Guest42879 | so apparently you get a free $10 gift card when buying a 3DS |
| 18:52.53 | Guest42879 | here's the kicker |
| 18:53.03 | Guest42879 | if you select in-store pickup, the gift card will be mailed to you with free shipping |
| 18:53.09 | Guest42879 | you can't pick up the gift card in store |
| 18:55.29 | Amarande | heh, speaking of things you can or can't do in-store |
| 18:57.27 | karl_w_w | Arrowmaster, Arrow|tablet: Loadout |
| 18:59.26 | Amarande | wonder when the micro centers in NYC are going to open |
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| 19:15.57 | Thunder_Child | Guest42879: Veigar is kind of an all or nothing char. |
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| 19:25.44 | kd3 | oh, huh. it was a year ago today that the meteor blew up over russia |
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| 19:27.08 | Thunder_Child | kd3: Alleged meteor. |
| 19:28.41 | Iriel | fetches Tc's tinfoil hat |
| 19:29.48 | Fisker | alleged allegation |
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| 19:34.38 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: Oh please, like it ever comes off. |
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| 19:34.52 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: 8-) |
| 19:35.01 | Fisker | hey Iriel |
| 19:35.19 | Fisker | You're like 50% nevcairiel so I like you 100% |
| 19:36.09 | Iriel | Does that mean you like nevcairiel 200%? |
| 19:36.25 | Fisker | nope |
| 19:36.48 | Thunder_Child | I think he means he only likes half of nevcairiel. Though I am not sure if he likes the top or the bottom. |
| 19:37.00 | Fisker | since you're 50% nevcairiel I only need to like nevcairiel 50% to like you 100% |
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| 20:45.26 | Kesava | oqueue's in moderation? |
| 20:45.38 | Kesava | i know it's terrible and everything but |
| 20:45.39 | Kesava | you know |
| 20:46.11 | kd3 | it's been in moderation ever since the in-game-donation button showed up iirc |
| 20:46.23 | Kesava | ah |
| 20:58.29 | kd3 | hah. "I told my daughter to be home from a friend's house at 2. She was an hour late. Her punishment was cleaning my office. Feel pretty good.I just crossed "do some parenting" and "clean office" off today's to-do list." |
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| 21:00.19 | Ressy | isn't in-game-donation against Blizzard's Addon ToS? |
| 21:00.46 | Semlar | which is why it's no longer on wowinterface or curse |
| 21:00.54 | Ressy | ahh |
| 21:01.10 | Semlar | plus the author's an idiot |
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| 21:01.35 | Ressy | Shouldn't that be reported to Blizzard to be banned then? |
| 21:02.15 | Semlar | oh i don't think he can help it |
| 21:02.19 | Fisker | why would they give a shit anyway? |
| 21:02.34 | Ressy | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1021053914 |
| 21:02.41 | Ressy | 5) Add-ons may not solicit donations. |
| 21:02.54 | Fisker | yes |
| 21:03.14 | Semlar | they don't really care enough to ban it |
| 21:03.47 | Ressy | They've banned several addons previously. |
| 21:04.03 | Semlar | those were mostly things that caused technical problems |
| 21:04.07 | Fisker | I've yet to see them ban any for that |
| 21:04.11 | Fisker | exactly |
| 21:04.21 | Ressy | They banned that one that allowed Horde to talk to Alliance |
| 21:04.28 | Iriel | I suspect because most users roll their eyes and ignore the donate button |
| 21:04.34 | Iriel | it doesn't FORCE you to donate |
| 21:04.48 | Fisker | still |
| 21:04.57 | kd3 | zomg too big to ban /s |
| 21:05.10 | Iriel | The policies give them the option to ban it if it starts to cause a fuss |
| 21:05.27 | Fisker | would be nice of they actually took the addon part seriously |
| 21:05.46 | Fisker | hah |
| 21:05.58 | Fisker | implying oqueue doesn't cause a fuss |
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| 21:09.20 | Amarande | Ressy: you know what's the odd thing? |
| 21:09.36 | Amarande | if there's one thing that should be struck from the EULA/TOU pretty much, it's the antiquated cross-faction talk rules |
| 21:09.53 | Amarande | there's already been at least two legitimate ways to do so for quite some time, it seems a very much obsolete regulation now :S |
| 21:12.33 | Amarande | 1) battle.net friend chat, of course; 2) the fact that warlocks in demon form can speak to each other intelligibly regardless of faction (i.e. there is only the one Demonic language) |
| 21:14.17 | Kesava | also right-click > add battletag friend > type message works with the opposite faction |
| 21:14.41 | Kesava | thankfully that hasn't turned bgs into COD yet |
| 21:14.44 | Fisker | I like that |
| 21:39.09 | zenzelezz | I'm absolutely not good with the technicalities of networking, but I can't help but wonder how 30% packet loss can go on for days on a hop |
| 21:42.50 | Kalroth | zenzelezz: a dash of incompetence and a sprinkle of not-my-job |
| 21:47.57 | Amarande | hmm |
| 21:48.08 | Amarande | wouldn't the recent spate of DDoS attacks possibly have that effect on affected nodes? |
| 21:50.05 | zenzelezz | possibly, yes, but I don't think these guys were involved in that. Also not certain if it affects everyone who go through the hop or not |
| 21:50.21 | zenzelezz | http://i.imgur.com/DNxfmqL.png - not exactly a graph I like |
| 21:55.34 | zenzelezz | apparently cogentco is a recently added route to the World of Tanks servers |
| 21:57.09 | Amarande | zenzelezz: DDoS affects everyone who goes through a given hop |
| 21:57.37 | Amarande | ... just like when we try to make a left out of the local Burger King LOL |
| 21:58.02 | Amarande | which unfortunately is part of why I basically never get to go to burger king :( |
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| 22:38.57 | jleclanche | PSA: Kickstarter hacked. Change your passwords. https://www.kickstarter.com |
| 22:46.32 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/Zt8ai3h.jpg |
| 22:46.48 | Neffi | jleclanche: ^ |
| 22:47.08 | jleclanche | who talks about cars in RPM? |
| 22:47.28 | Torhal | MURICA |
| 22:48.05 | Neffi | nobody. it's just humurous |
| 22:48.48 | Amarande | bleh, this is when I realise I forgot to get around to changing the email on my kickstarter account before I let my old email address die :| |
| 22:49.03 | Amarande | and I don't think I remember my old password either. |
| 22:49.18 | Gnarfoz | comic sans |
| 22:49.20 | Gnarfoz | gtfo |
| 22:49.55 | Neffi | I think that's part of the joke |
| 22:51.05 | Amarande | mind you, I also owned a domain name in my name, which means that my name, address, phone number &c. have been sitting out in the open public for something over a decade anyways :S |
| 22:54.03 | Semlar | oh lord, the cloak proc clearly has no internal cooldown |
| 22:54.19 | Semlar | i was testing a weak aura and it just procced 3 times in a row |
| 22:54.57 | Semlar | it did half a million damage |
| 22:57.53 | Amarande | hm, aren't PPM and IC normally one-or-the-other, anyway? |
| 22:58.01 | Amarande | means it's gotta be PPM and you got lucky :) |
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| 23:04.14 | Thunder_Child | Oh no, someone is going to back something of mine. |
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| 23:10.50 | Amarande | eesh, some game developers *headdesk* |
| 23:11.09 | Amarande | this looks like it's a fun sounding game that I got from Steam a while back, I'm finally getting around to giving it a go |
| 23:11.18 | Amarande | I go to hit "new game" and all it goes is "ENTER NAME" first of all |
| 23:11.33 | Amarande | No indication as to whether this is for a player identifier, or for your character, or for what KIND of character it's for if it IS for a character, just "ENTER NAME" |
| 23:11.37 | Amarande | wtf. :| |
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| 23:45.33 | Alram | jleclanche, is RED stuck? :( |
| 23:46.41 | Amarande | dammit, it would really be nice to know if ENTER NAME meant I should be entering a user id type name or if it wants a name for my character |
| 23:46.59 | Amarande | but it doesn't say, and it doesn't even say what *kind* of character I may be naming either, except for a little bit in the steam store blurb |
| 23:47.02 | Amarande | damn you runespell overture |
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| 23:59.03 | znf | heh, nice combo with Wordpress and the Facebook plugin. I enable facebook comments on a fairly big site, wordpress crashes |
