| 00:12.47 | Shirik | http://www.reddit.com/r/london/comments/1xb63z/why_people_always_ignore_new_and_stopped_giving/ |
| 00:16.24 | Amarande | ahhhhh, reddit, heh |
| 00:16.49 | Amarande | did you see the one about the new Dungeon Keeper? |
| 00:17.37 | Amarande | apparently EA managed to ruin Dungeon Keeper by making a mobile version of it :( |
| 00:24.55 | pompy | wtf http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1952685-russian-police-sing-get-lucky-by-daft-punk-for-2014-sochi-winter-olympics |
| 00:28.01 | Amarande | a little government-provided entertainment to make up for the fact that Sochi has been a galloping train wreck? :) |
| 00:28.28 | Amarande | btw, have they stopped importing their water from Felwood yet |
| 00:35.35 | pompy | dunno but apparently like 5,000 Chobani yogurt containers were sitting on pallets at EWR waiting to be approved by the White House or Russian Government to go to Sochi loll. like wtf |
| 00:48.11 | Amarande | pompy: red tape is a terrible thing |
| 00:48.34 | Amarande | although not quite as awful as, say, One Direction duck tape (seriously, and it was actually Duck who manufactured that crap LOL) |
| 01:08.37 | Breagha | If anybody are still awake, can they have a look at this - http://pastebin.com/91vv9t1K - and tell me why my table continues to be empty? :( |
| 01:10.20 | Breagha | print(word) works fine, but for some reason, word refuses to be appended to the table v.v |
| 01:11.07 | tz | what about table.insert? |
| 01:11.19 | Torhal | tz: Same effect and faster because no function call. |
| 01:11.22 | tz | although it should function exactly the same |
| 01:11.55 | Breagha | I tried table.insert... same result... |
| 01:12.07 | Breagha | I started with table.insert, actually... |
| 01:12.09 | Torhal | Also, "print(deckContents)" should be outputting "table: hash" |
| 01:12.26 | Breagha | It does... |
| 01:12.36 | Torhal | So how do you know it's empty? |
| 01:12.38 | Torhal | So confused. |
| 01:12.56 | Breagha | Because when it's not empty, it prints out the contents... |
| 01:13.07 | Torhal | o.O |
| 01:13.47 | Torhal | It should print "table: hashcode" no matter what - you aren't telling it to print the individual elements, you're telling it to print the table itself. |
| 01:14.01 | Torhal | Actually "table: memory_address" |
| 01:14.07 | Breagha | Umm... sorry... I misunderstood the table page I was reading... <.< |
| 01:14.16 | Breagha | Sowwy... v.v |
| 01:14.41 | Torhal | You don't need the msg variable, either - you can use strMsg directly |
| 01:15.18 | Breagha | Yeah... I like variables too much >.< |
| 01:15.42 | Breagha | Thank you for helping me :) |
| 01:15.45 | Torhal | :D |
| 01:16.13 | tz | I should really sort out the rest of the lua binding for work |
| 01:16.14 | tz | ugh |
| 01:17.57 | Neffi | Breagha: Change print(deckContents) to: for k,v in pairs(deckContents) do print(k,v) end |
| 01:18.24 | Breagha | Yeah, I was just on it, once Torhal got me out of my misunderstanding :) |
| 01:18.43 | Neffi | print just tries to convert its input into a reasonable string representation, which for objects is just an indicator of what kind of object it is, plus its memory address (so you can distinguish different ones at a glance) |
| 01:19.13 | Amarande | btw, what fun card game are you planning on adding to wow? :) |
| 01:19.18 | Neffi | The built in DevTools should provide a function for dumping the contents of a table like /dump does |
| 01:21.22 | Breagha | Umm... A mini Hearthstone... <.< |
| 01:21.46 | Neffi | so meta |
| 01:22.12 | Breagha | I'm not sure what that means... v.v |
| 01:23.45 | Neffi | (of a creative work) referring to itself or to the conventions of its genre; self-referential. |
| 01:24.10 | Neffi | You're making a card game about WoW inside WoW. It's self-referential. It was just a little quip/joke. |
| 01:24.19 | Breagha | Oh... right :) |
| 01:25.19 | Breagha | Yay! *huggles Torhal and Neffi* Thank you! ^^ |
| 01:25.54 | Neffi | Aww, I feel loved |
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| 01:28.35 | Torhal | :D |
| 01:28.41 | Semlar | no neffi |
| 01:32.17 | Semlar | you better not be cheating on me |
| 01:35.33 | Neffi | hides. |
| 01:36.00 | Semlar | :l |
| 01:37.09 | Breagha | Umm... well... I guess my work here is done... <.< |
| 01:37.15 | Breagha | Sleep well all around ^^ |
| 01:38.26 | Neffi | Now that's some shit |
| 01:38.41 | Neffi | Got to a mining node at the sime time as a 90 alliance. He /pet me and let me have it |
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| 01:53.01 | Jamash | didn't someone implement wow in wow |
| 01:54.19 | Neffi | I think you mean Minecraft in Minecraft, which multiple people have. Unless you really do mean WoW in WoW, then how the hell? |
| 01:54.57 | Jamash | it was a copy of the gluexml login screen in an addon |
| 01:55.04 | Jamash | it was very, very silly |
| 01:55.17 | TC-Work | What I want to know is why no one has modified aero peak so you can enable it and drag it wherever. |
| 01:55.32 | TC-Work | peek* |
| 01:55.50 | Neffi | oh |
| 01:58.20 | Jamash | TC-Work: http://www.chrisnsoft.com/visual-tooltip seems like what you're looking for |
| 01:59.48 | TC-Work | Jamash: Maybe. Thanks, I'll take a look. |
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| 02:00.09 | Jamash | I just googled "aero thumbnail utility" |
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| 03:03.33 | Mr_Rabies | Ackis: are you still maintaining alttabber in any form or fashion? |
| 03:15.01 | Neffi | heh http://imgur.com/gallery/nxMedyp |
| 03:37.33 | Dagmar | I concur |
| 03:37.55 | Dagmar | I went from a Palm 800W to a Galaxy S2 and for days I was like "Dear god, it's all fucking screen" |
| 03:40.12 | znf | Does anyone know if MIT is compatible with GPL2? |
| 03:41.03 | znf | yes it is! |
| 03:42.40 | Dagmar | Just... don't cross the stream.s |
| 04:48.29 | Dagmar | 87% downloaded |
| 04:48.33 | Dagmar | *sigh* |
| 04:59.26 | znf | let me guess, the elder scrolls? |
| 05:10.24 | Arrowmaster | znf: bsd with the advertising clause is one of the only majorly permissive license that isnt gpl compatible, the rest should be |
| 05:17.00 | Neffi | Wait, the advertising clause makes it GPL incompatible? |
| 05:17.45 | Neffi | haha http://i.imgur.com/Z8bRhjD.jpg |
| 05:30.19 | Neffi | I see http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#GPLIncompatibleLicenses |
| 05:32.28 | Neffi | And he makes a good point against the offending clause http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/bsd.html |
| 05:36.35 | pompy | http://techcrunch.com/2014/02/05/amazon-acquires-video-gaming-studio-double-helix-games/ huh wut Amazon, eh? |
| 05:42.50 | Neffi | I'd expect Google to buy a game studio first. And that's surprise me. |
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| 05:44.17 | Brulath | is anyone else having trouble making an svn connection to curseforge or is it just me? it pings fine, but seems to time out when committing (with previously-functioning settings) |
| 05:45.16 | kd3 | curse has been twitchy lately, something about a ddos. try again in a few hours? |
| 05:45.34 | Brulath | ah okay, thanks :) |
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| 06:02.34 | Semlar | god dammit neffi why does GetSpellTexture return two textures |
| 06:03.31 | Brulath | maybe it changes icon when active |
| 06:03.58 | Neffi | Display both for a few known spells and see if you recognize them? |
| 06:04.06 | Semlar | they're both the same |
| 06:04.24 | Neffi | So use the first one |
| 06:04.25 | Semlar | as far as i can tell the second one is the more valid of the two icons |
| 06:04.44 | Neffi | If they're both the same, they should be equally valid |
| 06:04.54 | Semlar | the only reason i bring this up is because an assassination rogue mentioned my icons for eviscerate were envenom |
| 06:05.17 | Semlar | this is because GetSpellInfo is returning envenom's icon for eviscerate if you're assassination |
| 06:05.19 | Neffi | Oh |
| 06:05.29 | Neffi | Yeah, since MoP spells can "morph" sort of |
| 06:05.35 | Semlar | the FIRST return of GetSpellTexture is also the envenom icon |
| 06:05.44 | Semlar | but the second one is actually eviscerate |
| 06:05.52 | Neffi | Eviscerate *becomes* Envenom for Assass. In other words, you lose Evisc and gain Envenom, and doing a /cast Eviscerate casts Envenom |
| 06:06.02 | Neffi | So it's like the old spell becomes a symlink to the new |
| 06:06.02 | Semlar | so on my nameplates when i'm showing instant casts |
| 06:06.17 | Semlar | GetSpellInfo is returning the wrong icon for certain specs |
| 06:06.51 | Semlar | trouble is i don't know how reliable GetSpellTexture is either |
| 06:07.01 | Neffi | Yeah, since he's assass the game client thinks that all references to Evisc should reference Envenom instead, so if you're trying to get the texture for an enemy's Evisc it'll bork |
| 06:07.23 | Neffi | If the 2nd return looks more correct, use that. They probably added it specifically because of this |
| 06:07.31 | Semlar | i changed it to try the second return and if it doesn't exist fall back on the default icon |
| 06:07.33 | Neffi | That 2nd return didnt exist before |
| 06:09.44 | Semlar | i'm trying to decide how much i want to do my crazy nameplate thing without breaking other nameplate addons |
| 06:10.19 | Neffi | I'd recommend just building the ability to move nameplates to a static anchor as its own addon |
| 06:10.22 | Semlar | i think i'm going to have to loop through all of the frames and check if they anchor to the nameplate, then reanchor them to something else |
| 06:10.41 | Neffi | This way if people prefer, say TidyPlates over your own nameplate design, they could still use your LazyPlates feature |
| 06:10.48 | Semlar | anything anchored to the nameplate is going to be completely broken if they use my addon |
| 06:11.05 | Neffi | " loop through all of the frames " <- All of the frames? lol |
| 06:11.16 | Semlar | well, literally every frame |
| 06:11.23 | Semlar | i don't know what the alternative is |
| 06:11.26 | Neffi | That would be terrible inefficient |
| 06:11.36 | Semlar | how else would you check if something is anchored to the frame |
| 06:11.38 | Neffi | Besides, if they anchor to the nameplate, won't they maintain that anchor when you move it? |
| 06:11.46 | Semlar | yes |
| 06:11.49 | Semlar | that's the problem |
| 06:11.52 | Neffi | So why reanchor? |
| 06:12.15 | Semlar | the nameplate addon needs to stay above the unit's head |
| 06:12.22 | Neffi | See, maybe somebody running the addon wants LazyPlates to behave/look like TidyPlates |
| 06:12.59 | Neffi | If anything, it should be an *option* to either let them respect their anchor, or reposition them above the unit's head |
| 06:12.59 | Semlar | well then kui isn't going to work |
| 06:13.25 | Neffi | You could write an explicit routine to support popular nameplate addons that don't work implicitly |
| 06:13.37 | Neffi | There's not that many nameplate addons in wide use |
| 06:14.31 | Semlar | i am not doing that again |
| 06:14.37 | Semlar | i went down that road with questplates |
| 06:14.38 | Neffi | heh |
| 06:15.41 | Neffi | "Note: this addon does not function with kui's nameplates, and possibly others. If you'd like, you can submit a patch to add support." |
| 06:16.05 | Semlar | i really don't want to take the plate off the unit's head |
| 06:16.14 | Semlar | i don't know why someone using one of those addons would want that either |
| 06:16.48 | Neffi | Because it allows them to add more features to LazyPlates by installing a supplementary addon |
| 06:20.19 | Neffi | If you move the clickable area, how are you still anchoring a faux nameplate above the unit's head? |
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| 06:20.43 | Semlar | because that's not the part i'm moving and i have no idea why it still works |
| 06:21.08 | Semlar | i'm not moving the part i normally resize to change the clickable area |
| 06:21.21 | Semlar | but it's still moving the clickable area |
| 06:21.42 | Neffi | So what are you moving? ... |
| 06:22.15 | Neffi | (And the part you dont move loses its clickability, right?) |
| 06:22.21 | Semlar | i'm 99% sure that the clickable area follows the parent's dimensions, the parent is just anchored to the child |
| 06:23.06 | Neffi | So the child defines the dimensions for the clickable area, and the position of all of it, but the parent is what actually intercepts the clicks |
| 06:23.48 | Semlar | the parent defines the dimensions and position of the clickable area, it just happens to have all of its points set to the child |
| 06:24.08 | Semlar | and the child is what determines the position of the plate |
| 06:25.16 | Semlar | the game sets the child's position above the unit's head |
| 06:25.35 | Semlar | and the parent is anchored to the child and the clickable area is anchored to the parent |
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| 06:26.14 | Semlar | so i move the parent, the child stays above the unit's head but the clickable area follows the parent |
| 06:26.35 | Semlar | this is why i can still put the plate above its head |
| 06:26.43 | Neffi | What worries me most is, what you're doing is well within the capability of the restricted env |
| 06:27.19 | Neffi | They could easily make it impossible to have both LazyPlates + faux plates above a unit's head. But to disable LazyPlates entirely would probably involve a pretty intrusive change. |
| 06:27.28 | Neffi | Possibly breaking nameplate addons in general |
| 06:27.46 | Semlar | they could just make it so you couldn't move the nameplate frame |
| 06:28.06 | Semlar | frankly i don't even see this as all that exploitive |
| 06:28.19 | Semlar | you're still limited to everything in the restricted environment |
| 06:28.31 | Semlar | so you can only do what you would be able to do with any unit frames |
| 06:28.52 | Neffi | Ah, but you were never meant to be able to have unit frames of all visible units |
| 06:29.13 | Semlar | well they put them on the screen |
| 06:29.45 | Semlar | it would be nice if their spreading/stacking methods didn't suck |
| 06:29.56 | Neffi | yeah |
| 06:30.17 | Neffi | It would also be nice if they implemented VirtualPlates' key feature as a built in option |
| 06:30.28 | Neffi | Scales the nameplates according to distance (doesnt work anymore) |
| 06:30.41 | Semlar | i think that was partly because of avr |
| 06:30.51 | Neffi | Yeah probably |
| 06:31.03 | Neffi | VP used a lot of CPU, but it was surprisingly nice |
| 06:31.18 | Neffi | When dealing with a lot of units, it made everything feel a lot less cluttered and more manageable |
| 06:33.26 | Semlar | unlike my nameplates which block out the sun |
| 06:33.42 | Neffi | lol |
| 06:35.30 | Semlar | with their glory |
| 06:35.53 | Neffi | dafuq http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/28/farting-cows-barn-explode_n_4680348.html |
| 06:36.25 | Brulath | I found the plates which resize seem to perform really poorly when overlapping... or it might just've been the docs nameplate spinoff I was using. went back to default after that, had to turn them off for aoe packs |
| 06:37.33 | Brulath | assume they all get drawn separately |
| 06:39.47 | Brulath | i say this being relatively ignorant of the way WoW's interface rendering actually takes place, but am intrigued. in unity you have to batch as many things together as possible to prevent performance problems. is interesting. |
| 06:39.49 | Semlar | as far as i know nobody other than me has ever resized a nameplate |
| 06:40.05 | Semlar | i mean the actual clickable portion of it |
| 06:40.34 | Semlar | same with hiding |
| 06:41.00 | Semlar | some nameplate addons can "hide" nameplates for certain mobs but really they just make them transparent |
| 06:43.00 | Brulath | it'd be useful to have the ability to render them at say 3 different sizes based on distance or how many are visible, using the same efficient method as the blizzard interface uses. the ones I've looked at seem to individualise the bars a bit much though and suffer performance-wise for it (but look prettier) |
| 06:43.22 | Semlar | you can't really figure out their distance unfortunately |
| 06:44.05 | Brulath | how do those other addons determine which size bars to use then? |
| 06:44.20 | Semlar | show me an addon that does that |
| 06:44.22 | Neffi | Which addon? |
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| 06:44.49 | Brulath | maybe my memory is bad, i'll assume you're more aware of them than me |
| 06:45.05 | Semlar | generally they resize them based on threat |
| 06:45.28 | Semlar | there was one addon that scaled them based on distance but it has been gone for years |
| 06:45.41 | Brulath | ah I see |
| 06:46.50 | Semlar | you can get the distance to units in your group but that's about it |
| 06:47.37 | Semlar | well actually if you're in combat with them i have a theory about detecting their general coordinates but i don't think that would be very reliable |
| 06:47.57 | Corv | General location of hostile NPCs? |
| 06:48.25 | Semlar | well yeah, i mean if you know the location of your party members and they're being attacked or are attacking within melee range of the unit you could get their approximate location |
| 06:48.26 | Neffi | This sounds worth investigating, semmi |
| 06:48.48 | Neffi | Oh yeah, that's not very reliable |
| 06:49.12 | Corv | Depends on the spread of the raid, I'd think. |
| 06:49.14 | Semlar | you would probably triangulate it from as many points as are available |
| 06:49.24 | Corv | Stack-in-melee would be shitty. |
| 06:49.28 | Semlar | i doubt it would be off by that much |
| 06:49.51 | Semlar | let me put it this way, the distance to someone in your raid within melee range of the target is almost as valuable as the distance to the unit itself |
| 06:50.16 | Corv | Right, no argument. Just, if everyone is stacked on a point, you have distance but not direction. |
| 06:50.34 | Corv | Though I suppose tank is probably opposite, which would help a lot. |
| 06:50.51 | Semlar | it's facing whoever it's attacking |
| 06:51.26 | Corv | So you know it's facing the raid, but can you guarantee where the raid is facing? |
| 06:51.34 | Corv | If the user is a non-healer, yes. |
| 06:51.38 | Semlar | oh you mean if the entire raid is on one point |
| 06:51.42 | Corv | Yeah. |
| 06:51.44 | Brulath | if you know the position of the nameplate on your screen you'd be able to figure out roughly which way the creature is? unless I misunderstand |
| 06:51.50 | Corv | Edge case, probably =) |
| 06:52.10 | Semlar | i don't know if you can get the position of pets |
| 06:52.27 | Corv | Doubt it. |
| 06:52.39 | Semlar | i don't think so either |
| 06:52.45 | Corv | What got us on this topic, by the way? I came in late. |
| 06:52.58 | Corv | I was thinking along these lines earlier after Watcher posted about Thok, though. |
| 06:53.26 | Semlar | you can't really determine direction from nameplates because you don't know the camera rotation |
| 06:54.14 | Semlar | he was asking about scaling nameplates based on distance |
| 06:54.59 | Corv | Ah, for non-players, got it. |
| 06:55.08 | Corv | How's that addon going? |
| 06:55.29 | Semlar | i'm rewriting it to use a little different method |
| 06:55.39 | Semlar | much more efficient |
| 06:57.50 | Semlar | i'm likely going to be integrating it into my own nameplate addon first |
| 06:58.10 | Semlar | because it is going to be a pain in the ass to make it work for everything at once |
| 07:01.11 | Corv | Would you mind if I take some cues from that nom.zip the other night? |
| 07:01.17 | Corv | I'm just looking to hide them on occasion, but you'd got a convenient setup for finding and accessing them all. |
| 07:01.32 | Semlar | go for it |
| 07:01.38 | Corv | Thanks! |
| 07:02.41 | Semlar | the cvars for toggling the nameplates on and off aren't protected so if you just want to automatically turn enemy nameplates off or something it wouldn't be difficult |
| 07:03.56 | Corv | I know there's a reason I'm not using SetUIVisibility, but I'll double check and make sure I'm not making this hard on myself. |
| 07:07.47 | Semlar | i never tried that when i was toggling nameplates on and off to try and click through them |
| 07:08.39 | Semlar | it likely has the same issues |
| 07:08.59 | Semlar | i was trying to make it so friendly nameplates never intercepted the mouse |
| 07:09.34 | Semlar | there wasn't really any sane way to do it |
| 07:15.31 | Corv | *That* is what started this whole affair? |
| 07:16.06 | Semlar | maybe |
| 07:16.53 | Corv | Regardless, what you've got going is totally awesome. |
| 07:17.48 | Semlar | ^_^ |
| 07:18.50 | Semlar | i just found they aren't releasing vampire prosecutor 3 this year |
| 07:19.10 | Semlar | they're making some spinoff providing backstory about the vampire |
| 07:19.36 | Semlar | i was really looking forward to that.. |
| 07:20.43 | Corv | Please tell me this is an Phoenix Wright/Twilight crack crossover. |
| 07:21.02 | Semlar | it's a korean drama about a prosecutor who also happens to be a vampire |
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| 07:21.08 | Semlar | and he uses his special vampire powers to solve crime |
| 07:21.13 | Semlar | it's literally my favorite show ever |
| 07:21.48 | Corv | I'm way too curious. |
| 07:21.51 | Corv | googles. |
| 07:21.53 | Semlar | EEEVEEEEEEEERRRRRR |
| 07:22.15 | Semlar | it's on hulu |
| 07:26.24 | Torhal | HALP |
| 07:26.48 | Corv | Eh? |
| 07:27.00 | Semlar | he's sendin out an sos |
| 07:27.16 | Torhal | So I have some really shitty-quality BLP images for Collectinator. I've obtained the original high-quality artwork. I've converted it into 128x128 TGA files named identically to the originals. |
| 07:27.21 | Torhal | I get this: Couldn't find file 'Collectinator\Images\minipets_up' |
| 07:27.29 | Torhal | Dafuq, Wow? |
| 07:27.37 | Semlar | did you try .tga |
| 07:27.37 | Torhal | It's clearly there. |
| 07:27.48 | Torhal | No. |
| 07:27.56 | Torhal | I didn't think it was necessary. |
| 07:27.59 | Torhal | Bah. |
| 07:28.15 | Corv | 'fraid I've got no sensible explanation. |
| 07:28.44 | Semlar | i'm assuming it's snipping off the interface\addons\ part of that path too |
| 07:29.20 | Torhal | Yeah. I didn't change the code at all, just the images. |
| 07:29.31 | Semlar | you restarted the client too? |
| 07:29.33 | Torhal | Same name as old, just .tga instead of .blp |
| 07:29.37 | Torhal | I did. |
| 07:29.54 | Semlar | i don't usually leave off the extension |
| 07:29.56 | Torhal | COnfirmed: Adding .tga to the string doesn't help. |
| 07:30.36 | Semlar | the actual file has the tga extension though? |
| 07:30.49 | Semlar | i wonder if there's something wrong with its format |
| 07:31.49 | Semlar | if you upload one of the textures i could see if i can load it |
| 07:32.10 | Neffi | Semlar: i might watch that. |
| 07:32.20 | Neffi | but if it sucks i'm gonna ~whalenuke you |
| 07:32.22 | Neffi | =P |
| 07:32.49 | Semlar | he goes around and tastes the crime scene |
| 07:33.04 | Semlar | and then he sees what the person saw before they died |
| 07:33.31 | Neffi | >_> |
| 07:33.48 | Semlar | i thought it was pure genius |
| 07:33.58 | Neffi | maybe |
| 07:34.26 | Neffi | I have a mild obsession with vampires. But I dont really like how *any* show/movie/book portrays them |
| 07:34.43 | Neffi | There's so much more potential there than so many cheesy authors can see |
| 07:34.54 | Semlar | now when you say you don't like cheesy |
| 07:35.03 | Neffi | heh |
| 07:35.35 | Neffi | I thought the first 1 or 2 seasons of the North American Being Human had a little potential |
| 07:36.12 | Neffi | The backstory with Bishop and the political aspect could've been interesting. Then they went all "hurrrrr supernatural" |
| 07:36.50 | Semlar | i am going to say it's a lil cheesy |
| 07:37.08 | Semlar | but it's still genius |
| 07:37.49 | Neffi | I can tolerate cheesy if it's good cheesy. I like Doctor Who after all. |
| 07:42.00 | *** join/#wowuidev kagaro1 (~kagaro@cpe-173-095-140-190.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 07:43.34 | Torhal | Semlar: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ltgguajdgrt8f5x/mounts_up.tga |
| 07:45.51 | Semlar | seems to work fine |
| 07:46.01 | Torhal | Semlar: In wow? |
| 07:46.03 | Semlar | yep |
| 07:46.04 | Torhal | WoW* |
| 07:46.06 | Torhal | ... |
| 07:46.09 | Torhal | Dafuq? |
| 07:46.21 | Torhal | One thing I did NOT do is restart the BNet launcher. |
| 07:46.28 | Torhal | If that's the case, /growl |
| 07:46.29 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:46.52 | Semlar | seems to work with or without the extension |
| 07:47.07 | Semlar | granted if you have something with the exact same name and a different extension i'd probably use the extension |
| 07:47.15 | Torhal | Yah, I didn't think it was necessary. |
| 07:47.19 | Torhal | Aside from that scenerio |
| 07:47.32 | Torhal | Err, scenario |
| 07:48.16 | Semlar | are you absolutely sure you have the path correct |
| 07:48.34 | Torhal | I didn't change the code. |
| 07:48.40 | Torhal | It worked with the shitty .blps |
| 07:48.43 | Semlar | i don't even get an error when i put in an incorrect path |
| 07:48.48 | Semlar | what's doing that |
| 07:48.52 | Torhal | No damn idea. |
| 07:49.17 | Torhal | Though I AM using SetPortraitToTexture |
| 07:49.33 | Semlar | oh |
| 07:50.26 | Torhal | Oh shit |
| 07:50.29 | Torhal | Damn it. |
| 07:50.50 | Torhal | WoWProgramming doesn't mention this, but WoWPedia does: |
| 07:50.51 | Torhal | This function only seems to work on BLP textures. It will also fail to work if the texture path includes the .blp file extension. |
| 07:50.58 | Torhal | headdesks. |
| 07:51.04 | Semlar | well now we're getting somewhere |
| 07:52.15 | Torhal | Too bad I don't have Bootcamp set up on this new Mac - can't use BLPConverter |
| 07:52.30 | Torhal | Next week. |
| 07:52.32 | Torhal | :D |
| 07:52.47 | Semlar | i'm sure there's something for the mac |
| 07:53.17 | Semlar | xnview apparently |
| 07:53.27 | Torhal | Huh, didn't realize it converted. |
| 07:53.44 | Torhal | Hopefully that isn't what made the dreadful BLPs it was using before. |
| 07:54.15 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:54.25 | Semlar | he says it can't write to blps |
| 07:55.04 | Torhal | I didn't think so - I always used it to browse the Blizzard Art. |
| 08:01.26 | Neffi | Torhal: https://www.dropbox.com/s/853njqh4opz4f94/mounts_up.blp |
| 08:01.49 | Neffi | Irfanview to convert your TGA to PNG, BLPConverter to convert that to BLP. Hope it works |
| 08:02.18 | *** join/#wowuidev VIad (~Vlad@151.117.45.31.customer.cdi.no) |
| 08:02.32 | Semlar | mac? |
| 08:02.34 | Torhal | Neffi: Sweet. If it does, could you do one more? |
| 08:02.40 | Torhal | Oh |
| 08:02.49 | Neffi | sure |
| 08:05.13 | Torhal | Neffi: Blizzard is evil. Yes. Evil. " SetPortraitToTexture(): image must be 64x64 pixels" |
| 08:05.30 | Neffi | lol |
| 08:06.05 | bluspacecow | nope |
| 08:06.11 | bluspacecow | Torhal is evil |
| 08:06.18 | Torhal | nopes bluspacecow into a mountain. |
| 08:06.23 | Semlar | i'm fairly sure i've used it on smaller images |
| 08:06.51 | Semlar | are icons 64x64? |
| 08:06.55 | Torhal | Semlar: I'm sure it's just a horrible error message, like the first, which didn't even identify that it came from SetPortraitToTexture. |
| 08:07.10 | Torhal | I'm guessing the upper limits are 64x64 |
| 08:07.22 | Neffi | Torhal: https://www.dropbox.com/s/853njqh4opz4f94/mounts_up.blp |
| 08:07.48 | Neffi | Resized with irfanview's resample (lanczos) |
| 08:07.50 | Semlar | i mean i guess you could mask them yourself if you had to |
| 08:09.16 | Torhal | Semlar: Oh, I've done it before. Hateful. |
| 08:09.47 | Semlar | photoshop could probably batch process a whole folder |
| 08:10.50 | Torhal | Neffi: With the texture you made: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4vu7a8ewfoyma0f/Screenshot%202014-02-08%2002.09.41.png with the old texture: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1bx48srch7xpt2f/Screenshot%202014-02-08%2002.10.43.png |
| 08:11.09 | Semlar | good |
| 08:11.21 | Torhal | I was serious when I said "shitty" |
| 08:11.24 | Torhal | :D |
| 08:11.28 | Torhal | MUCH improved, danke. |
| 08:11.38 | Semlar | was the other one smaller? |
| 08:12.12 | Torhal | Semlar: No, it was 7k. Neffi's is 4k |
| 08:12.16 | Semlar | i mean the dimensions |
| 08:12.40 | Torhal | Neffi: Here's the pets one - https://www.dropbox.com/s/u0z3x7mb4gkomt3/minipets_up.tga |
| 08:12.52 | Semlar | neffi's is probably compressed |
| 08:12.57 | Neffi | 64 as well? |
| 08:13.12 | Torhal | Semlar: No idea - Zhinjio made the original. No idea WHY, either, since it wasn't using SetPortraitToTexture at the time |
| 08:13.15 | Torhal | Neffi: Please. |
| 08:13.42 | Semlar | i think the mask might screw up on smaller textures |
| 08:14.26 | Neffi | https://www.dropbox.com/s/i981xlehs8njcef/minipets_up.blp |
| 08:14.36 | Torhal | I'm definitely happier with the new BLP file, though. Doesn't look like a random kid traced it then spilled water on it and said "Eh, good enough" anymore. |
| 08:15.10 | Semlar | i think it's a ghost of the circular texture used to mask it |
| 08:15.41 | Semlar | it looks like it's been scaled up |
| 08:17.54 | Torhal | Neffi: Before - https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvvoxr8ejtecbbk/Screenshot%202014-02-08%2002.16.31.png and after - https://www.dropbox.com/s/4uso5ffxqz2mwfj/Screenshot%202014-02-08%2002.17.42.png |
| 08:18.46 | Neffi | beautiful |
| 08:19.46 | Torhal | Yes, thank you! |
| 08:20.26 | Semlar | SetPortraitToTexture('PlayerPortrait', [[interface\icons\inv_mushroom_11]]) |
| 08:21.44 | Neffi | Semlar: make that an addon |
| 08:24.08 | Corv | So, for all my poking, it appears SetUIVisibility is the only way to hide raid icons. |
| 08:24.15 | Corv | (assuming nameplates aren't shown) |
| 08:24.20 | Semlar | if they're out of range of the nameplate |
| 08:24.22 | Semlar | hooksecurefunc('UnitFramePortrait_Update', function(self) if not self.portrait then return end SetPortraitToTexture(self.portrait, [[interface\icons\inv_mushroom_11]]) end) |
| 08:24.48 | Corv | I trust you on this because you're obviously the one to know but I refuse to like it, damn it. |
| 08:25.34 | Semlar | i honestly didn't know you could even hide the raid target icons if they weren't attached to the nameplate, i thought they were rendered as part of the world |
| 08:25.51 | Semlar | this is the first time i've seen that function |
| 08:26.21 | Semlar | i'm not sure when it's used |
| 08:26.38 | Corv | ToggleUI, aka Alt-Z. |
| 08:26.53 | Corv | It kills nameplates, raid icons, and the targetting circle. |
| 08:27.02 | Corv | And chat bubbles. |
| 08:27.29 | Semlar | well i regret typing /run UIParent:Hide() |
| 08:27.43 | Corv | hahaha, c'mon, that's fun |
| 08:27.52 | Corv | WorldFrame.Hide is better =) |
| 08:27.54 | Semlar | i no longer have a chat box with which to undo it |
| 08:28.07 | Corv | Alt-Z should bring you back |
| 08:28.49 | Torhal | ~framexml |
| 08:28.49 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console or open 'World of Warcraft.app' --args -console after game loads press ~ and enter commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml . |
| 08:29.07 | Semlar | i should hook that api function because i was just hooking the UIParent's visibility to hide my player frame with the nameplates |
| 08:29.09 | *** join/#wowuidev d[karl]b (~Karl@61.116.96.58.static.exetel.com.au) |
| 08:29.33 | Torhal | Yes, I was typing "ExportInterfaceOptions code" |
| 08:29.36 | Semlar | i make a fake nameplate in the center of the screen to represent the player |
| 08:29.46 | Corv | I'm trying to hide everything *except* chat bubbbles, and I can manage everything that func does, except the raid icons |
| 08:29.59 | Mr_Rabies | i want more WoD artwork to surface :( |
| 08:30.07 | Mr_Rabies | wanna update the guild website's background |
| 08:30.30 | Mr_Rabies | as badass as that frazetta-esque piece, as an alliance guild i dunno how appopriate orcs would be |
| 08:30.35 | Corv | I can dig up some blurry photos of the zones they didn't mean for you to access, if you want. |
| 08:31.36 | Neffi | Semlar: If you hit Esc after a UIParent:Hide(), it reshows |
| 08:31.43 | Semlar | what! |
| 08:31.57 | Semlar | there is no way it has always done that |
| 08:32.03 | Neffi | no |
| 08:32.08 | Neffi | I found that recently |
| 08:32.19 | Torhal | Get to drawing! |
| 08:32.25 | Semlar | probably because people hiding their ui couldn't figure out what they pressed |
| 08:32.42 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:33.05 | Neffi | dafeq |
| 08:33.12 | Corv | oh gods I remember that addon |
| 08:33.22 | Corv | "for technical reasons this addon only works for horde" |
| 08:33.39 | Semlar | because the horde is TECHNICALLY SUPERIOR |
| 08:33.54 | Corv | Well obvs. |
| 08:34.00 | Mr_Rabies | >ranked spells |
| 08:34.06 | Mr_Rabies | cowers in fear |
| 08:34.08 | Semlar | raptor strike |
| 08:34.30 | Semlar | an entire page dedicated to raptor strike |
| 08:35.12 | Neffi | best ability evar |
| 08:35.17 | Neffi | deserves 10 pages |
| 08:35.24 | Semlar | i can't help but notice i don't even have it bound to action bars without hotkeys |
| 08:36.05 | Semlar | oh my god i forgot about that shot that drained mana |
| 08:36.43 | Semlar | i think it was called viper sting |
| 08:36.54 | Neffi | Waitm they removed that? |
| 08:37.25 | Semlar | well i know i'm a terrible hunter but i'm fairly sure i don't have that |
| 08:37.39 | Corv | I think this is my best photo from BlizzCon https://www.dropbox.com/s/1g47m587hzjm7s7/20131109_091337.jpg |
| 08:37.42 | Neffi | lol |
| 08:38.10 | Mr_Rabies | there are unused icons on your desktop, angels.com |
| 08:38.13 | Semlar | it was removed in october of 2010 so |
| 08:38.41 | Neffi | I'm late >_> |
| 08:38.58 | Mr_Rabies | viper sting was so op in vanilla |
| 08:39.06 | Mr_Rabies | just, destroy any caster |
| 08:39.09 | Mr_Rabies | immediately |
| 08:39.20 | Semlar | "When used with wound and deadly/mind numbing poison it's very annoying for a priest in PvP, especially if they're not specced holy." |
| 08:39.37 | Mr_Rabies | that boss in AQ20 that required viper sting/mana burn |
| 08:39.59 | Corv | Moam. Ugh. |
| 08:40.03 | Semlar | i can't believe i even had that on my bars because i don't remember anything it was ever useful for |
| 08:40.06 | Mr_Rabies | i love how they shoehorned in classes like that early on |
| 08:40.11 | Semlar | except maybe pvp |
| 08:40.33 | Mr_Rabies | this fight needs uhhhh, [OBSCURE ABILITY THAT THE CLASS NEVER USES NORMALLY BECAUSE WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THEM INTO RAIDS OTHERWISE] |
| 08:41.50 | *** join/#wowuidev Yoshimo (~Miranda@unaffiliated/yoshimo) |
| 08:42.47 | Semlar | holy crap i just noticed there was an auto-add members checkbox on one of the old LFM tools |
| 08:43.29 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:45.31 | Mr_Rabies | that was the meeting stone lfm tool iirc? |
| 08:45.47 | Mr_Rabies | which later got changed to global |
| 08:46.14 | Semlar | i don't know if this required the meeting stone |
| 08:46.18 | Neffi | No I think this one might be post-meeting stone |
| 08:46.27 | Neffi | It's all kinda fuzzy though |
| 08:46.31 | jleclanche | Gnarfoz: i think it should work, and without flash |
| 08:46.36 | Semlar | i don't think it did |
| 08:46.36 | jleclanche | looking into it |
| 08:46.58 | Torhal | Semlar: Just in case the current category was neither CRITTER or MOUNT, I ended up doing this... |
| 08:47.00 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:47.14 | Semlar | it's for the best |
| 08:47.18 | Torhal | Indeed. |
| 08:47.40 | Semlar | those nested tables |
| 08:47.44 | Torhal | HAWT |
| 08:48.14 | Torhal | They're not nested tables; they're table lookups which rely on table lookups which rely on table lookups. |
| 08:48.19 | Torhal | :D |
| 08:48.29 | Semlar | those nested table lookups |
| 08:48.34 | Torhal | DAT NEST |
| 08:49.47 | jleclanche | Gnarfoz: firefox or chrome? |
| 08:49.54 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:51.43 | Semlar | people would just stack up on the quest givers so anyone trying to click on them would get mulched by a peacekeeper |
| 08:52.18 | nevcairiel | thats why you hotkeyed the interact button |
| 08:53.05 | Corv | oof, dat resolution |
| 08:53.13 | Semlar | you jelly? |
| 08:53.26 | Corv | Totally. |
| 08:54.25 | Mr_Rabies | this beer |
| 08:54.27 | Mr_Rabies | bestever |
| 08:54.51 | Mr_Rabies | left hand milk stout nitro |
| 08:55.05 | Mr_Rabies | it's like a chocolate milkshake |
| 08:55.41 | Semlar | can you imagine raiding like this |
| 08:56.24 | Corv | I can barely remember doing so and would rather not. |
| 08:56.42 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:57.59 | Mr_Rabies | i have so few screenshots from raids |
| 08:58.13 | Mr_Rabies | i mostly took mine while....creatively exploring the world using game mechanics and nothing else |
| 08:58.46 | Mr_Rabies | i love how i can tell when my friend was on my pc because there's tons of gnome-height first person shots of female npcs |
| 08:59.53 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:00.17 | Semlar | oh lord |
| 09:01.00 | Semlar | i don't know why i have screenshots of anything |
| 09:01.36 | d[karl]b | listen to the bear necessities without watching the video = sounds like a pedo |
| 09:01.40 | Mr_Rabies | http://i.easel.blolol.com/WoWScrnShot_050807_035153.jpg |
| 09:01.42 | Mr_Rabies | tbc.jpg |
| 09:01.59 | Semlar | so colorful |
| 09:02.48 | Neffi | nait |
| 09:03.48 | Mr_Rabies | screenshot from my first raid: http://i.easel.blolol.com/WoWScrnShot_051705_002246.jpg |
| 09:04.04 | Mr_Rabies | my UI is eerily not that different today |
| 09:04.07 | Semlar | DPS VERY SLOWLY |
| 09:06.58 | Mr_Rabies | http://i.easel.blolol.com/WoWScrnShot_103113_033308.jpg screenshot of my ui from a few months ago, basically the same today |
| 09:07.15 | zenzelezz | Mr_Rabies: I hope it's 16:[9/10] today |
| 09:07.46 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:09.46 | Semlar | i have no idea what spec i am, i have kill command and what appears to be chimera shot |
| 09:10.01 | zenzelezz | I wish I had all my old raid screenshots |
| 09:10.12 | zenzelezz | like the time Anub'Rekhan came at us in the death knight wing |
| 09:10.29 | Semlar | i clearly don't have bestial wrath |
| 09:11.52 | Semlar | silencing shot |
| 09:12.05 | Semlar | maybe i had to interrupt something |
| 09:13.35 | Torhal | Mr_Rabies: I concur on the beer. |
| 09:13.40 | Torhal | Love those. |
| 09:13.45 | Mr_Rabies | so good |
| 09:13.47 | Mr_Rabies | so expensive, but so good |
| 09:13.55 | Mr_Rabies | like $2 a bottle for a 6 pack :( |
| 09:14.07 | Torhal | Holy WAT |
| 09:14.15 | Torhal | It's like $10 here |
| 09:14.24 | Mr_Rabies | well, $11.99 for the 6 pack |
| 09:14.35 | Torhal | Still, though - better than $3 for Budweiser at a bar. |
| 09:14.44 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, bars are terrible out here anyway |
| 09:14.53 | Mr_Rabies | the only one i'd go to is a gamebar and it's too far off |
| 09:14.57 | Mr_Rabies | about 2hrs away |
| 09:15.03 | Mr_Rabies | everything else is sports bars |
| 09:15.06 | Torhal | Ugh |
| 09:15.12 | Mr_Rabies | also, no public transportation so i'd have to get a DD |
| 09:15.24 | Mr_Rabies | which is reasonably managable, i have a friend that doesn't drink |
| 09:15.33 | Mr_Rabies | that loves vidyagaem |
| 09:15.38 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 09:16.55 | zenzelezz | I was not entirely happy having to pay $18 for a glass of Morgan at a bar, but a man's gotta drink... |
| 09:16.59 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:18.08 | *** join/#wowuidev Kalroth (~Kalroth@d40aa50f.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 09:18.19 | Mr_Rabies | geez, zenzelezz |
| 09:18.41 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:18.45 | Mr_Rabies | also, morgan? |
| 09:19.10 | Mr_Rabies | gonna assume not capt. morgan since you said "a glass" |
| 09:19.59 | Neffi | Drinking it in the true pirate fashion? |
| 09:25.20 | zenzelezz | Mr_Rabies: yes Captain Morgan, and how else would you drink it? |
| 09:25.23 | zenzelezz | bottle? |
| 09:25.29 | zenzelezz | I don't do hobo-style |
| 09:26.47 | jleclanche | anyone has any idea why bidirectional clipboard isnt working in virtualbox for me (linux host, w7 vbox) |
| 09:28.27 | zenzelezz | so it's working in one direction? |
| 09:28.56 | jleclanche | its not working in either direction |
| 09:28.59 | jleclanche | i set it to bidirectional |
| 09:33.40 | Alram | jleclanche, why is http://marlamin.com/u/2014-02-08_10-31-03_178311178809.png a thing and how do i override it |
| 09:34.13 | jleclanche | Alram: how do you override what? |
| 09:34.21 | Alram | i cant enable it anymore |
| 09:34.26 | jleclanche | really? |
| 09:34.31 | Alram | https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/2811969 |
| 09:34.41 | Alram | it flags it as suspicious just because its not from the web store |
| 09:34.44 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (~chatzilla@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Dev/Brykrys) |
| 09:34.58 | jleclanche | i have extensions not from the store. they're disabled by default but i can enable them |
| 09:35.02 | jleclanche | i just.. click "enable" |
| 09:35.19 | Alram | i would but it doesnt work |
| 09:35.31 | Alram | and the support article now says that greyed out things cant be reenabled again |
| 09:35.46 | jleclanche | is it possible you cant enable it because of different issues? |
| 09:35.48 | jleclanche | like compatibility |
| 09:36.16 | Alram | its all the userscripts |
| 09:36.29 | Alram | if it says not from chrome store i cant check enable |
| 09:36.40 | Alram | and the support article says "Extensions that have been disabled will appear grayed out and you won't be able to re-enable them." which makes me think its intended |
| 09:36.51 | Fisker | pls Alram |
| 09:37.06 | Alram | im running beta, Fisker |
| 09:37.09 | Fisker | yeah |
| 09:37.09 | jleclanche | Alram: https://mediacru.sh/6jIDpWI5ffdw |
| 09:37.19 | Fisker | stable and beta does not allow non-chrome webstore extensions |
| 09:37.21 | Fisker | only dev does |
| 09:37.28 | Alram | thats bullshit? |
| 09:37.31 | Alram | why the fuck |
| 09:37.33 | Fisker | That's old as fuck |
| 09:37.36 | Fisker | like ancient |
| 09:37.43 | Alram | it actually just gave me the popup |
| 09:37.51 | Alram | that it disabled non store addons |
| 09:38.16 | Alram | so if i want userscripts i have to run dev |
| 09:38.22 | Brulath | they explained it somewhere, it's because most of those extensions are installed via malware |
| 09:38.27 | Fisker | I guess you can use tampermonkey |
| 09:38.35 | Brulath | which are incredibly difficult for them to permanently remove |
| 09:39.06 | jleclanche | what? |
| 09:39.10 | Alram | sure, but checking the developer mode checkbox should still let you overwrite it |
| 09:39.15 | jleclanche | i use stable and i get non-chrome store extensions |
| 09:39.25 | Fisker | probably not live on stable yet then |
| 09:39.32 | jleclanche | Alram: developer mode just shows more stuff |
| 09:39.36 | Brulath | but then the malware would probably just check the dev mode button |
| 09:39.42 | Fisker | But it was announced like months ago that non-dev channel wouldn't allow non-webstore extensions |
| 09:39.51 | Alram | thats poop :( |
| 09:40.37 | zenzelezz | then you can't develop extensions on release versions? |
| 09:40.52 | jleclanche | yes you can |
| 09:40.58 | jleclanche | you can install unpacked extensions |
| 09:42.11 | Fisker | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/11/07/1941238/google-to-block-local-chrome-extensions-on-windows-starting-in-january |
| 09:42.13 | Fisker | there it was |
| 09:42.57 | Alram | bah |
| 09:43.00 | jleclanche | but only on the Windows platform |
| 09:43.02 | jleclanche | haahahahahhaha. |
| 09:43.09 | Alram | thats it |
| 09:43.10 | jleclanche | i remember now. |
| 09:43.11 | Alram | installing arch |
| 09:43.21 | Fisker | why not just install safari? |
| 09:43.24 | Fisker | Or firefox |
| 09:43.25 | Fisker | or opera |
| 09:43.31 | Fisker | oh that reminds me |
| 09:43.41 | Alram | because those involve installing safari firefox or opera Fisker |
| 09:44.13 | Fisker | that's true |
| 09:45.10 | Fisker | my feet are fucking cold |
| 09:45.46 | *** join/#wowuidev tharper (~tomh@unaffiliated/sioraiocht) |
| 09:57.16 | Torhal | disables Alram's scripts. |
| 09:57.25 | Torhal | gives Fisker some socks. |
| 09:57.26 | Semlar | disables torhal |
| 09:57.34 | Torhal | wheelchairs Semlar. |
| 09:57.34 | Alram | I WILL FIND YOU TORHAL |
| 09:57.37 | Torhal | NOES! |
| 09:57.42 | Alram | AND INSTALL VISTA ON ALL YOUR MACHINES |
| 09:57.48 | Semlar | it's all downhill from here |
| 09:58.00 | Torhal | Alram: What if I have an 8088? |
| 09:58.05 | Alram | i will port it |
| 09:58.07 | Alram | and then install it |
| 09:58.08 | Torhal | And yes, Semlar - I'll wheel you downhill. |
| 09:58.21 | Torhal | Alram: No |
| 09:58.23 | Torhal | Lies. |
| 09:58.26 | Torhal | Impossibru |
| 09:58.36 | Alram | nothing is impossibbru |
| 09:58.59 | Torhal | Impopsicle! |
| 10:01.05 | Torhal | You give me Vista, Alram, I'll take your Minecraft. |
| 10:01.13 | Alram | fine |
| 10:01.37 | Torhal | You'll be forced to play Lego Indiana Jones for all eternity. |
| 10:02.37 | Alram | with pleasure |
| 10:05.00 | Fisker | pls Torhal |
| 10:05.05 | Fisker | My name is Oliver Queen |
| 10:06.42 | Fisker | man |
| 10:06.55 | Fisker | that's the worst "Omg this guy is a terrorist according to my computer"-pokerface I've ever seen |
| 10:14.50 | Torhal | No, Fisker - you're The Hood. |
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| 10:27.36 | d[karl]b | fisker is robin hood? |
| 10:28.16 | d[karl]b | he takes from the rich and gives to the poor |
| 10:28.17 | d[karl]b | s/gives to// |
| 10:28.41 | nevcairiel | The Hood is a villain in the marvel universe |
| 10:32.48 | d[karl]b | you're a villain |
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| 10:49.06 | rot | yello |
| 10:49.36 | rot | is there a difference between 'Player' and 'player' used as UnitID? |
| 10:51.15 | rot | wowwiki says they're NOT case sensitive....so which version is used mostly? |
| 10:51.59 | nebula169 | lowercase |
| 10:52.05 | nebula169 | units should all be lowercase |
| 10:52.33 | rot | that's the "widely used convention" right? |
| 10:52.46 | rot | ok, i'll stick with lowercase as well then |
| 10:53.05 | rot | thank you |
| 10:53.30 | rot | presses CTRL-H |
| 10:53.48 | rot | ah, while we're at it... |
| 10:54.07 | rot | is there a convention too about quotes and doublequotes as well? |
| 10:55.02 | nebula169 | not in particular, they don't evaluate differently |
| 10:55.27 | rot | yeah, well, neither UnitIDs do, but there's a convention there :D |
| 10:55.44 | nebula169 | i'm pretty sure unit ids are case sensitive, just not in wow |
| 10:56.06 | nebula169 | erm, i'm not in wow to test |
| 10:56.42 | rot | well, the wiki says they're not case sensitive so...gonna believe that...but i'll use lowercase anyway |
| 10:56.59 | rot | and i'll use single quotes for unitIDs and events |
| 10:57.09 | rot | and doublequotes for names/strings |
| 10:57.34 | rot | it's just a way to give myself some "writing rules" |
| 10:58.36 | nebula169 | ok, guess they aren't, lol, just never seen them in title case |
| 10:58.57 | rot | eheh, I was using "Player" till now |
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| 10:59.46 | Gethe | well it probalby comes from the variable nameing convention camelCase |
| 11:00.44 | Gethe | but the unit id is just one word so its only lower case |
| 11:06.37 | zenzelezz | I never liked "Title Case", but I'll admit it might be because I grew up without it |
| 11:07.58 | rot | it helps with readability alot imo |
| 11:08.26 | zenzelezz | I find the opposite |
| 11:09.01 | zenzelezz | for me (and I believe the way we learn it in Norway) is that capital letters are for names, and for starting sentences |
| 11:09.29 | zenzelezz | we don't capitalize days, months |
| 11:10.53 | rot | I usually use lowercase for local variables and TitleCase for function and camelCase arguments |
| 11:11.08 | zenzelezz | oh, I was not talking code |
| 11:11.12 | rot | eheh |
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| 12:01.50 | karl_w_w | you can also use PLAYER |
| 12:08.18 | tz | sadly not PLAYA |
| 12:08.41 | tz | that'd make some bitchin' addons |
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| 14:20.07 | bluipodcow | http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KOmIDhBDoww&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DKOmIDhBDoww |
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| 14:43.29 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tix_s6K9NU0&lc |
| 14:43.34 | karl_w_w | don't you agree bluipodcow? |
| 14:45.28 | zenzelezz | so, I had new windows installed, and in the process had to take down all my curtains, move the furniture, and so on. After putting things back up, I find I have one curtain left over, and I can't quite figure out where it was |
| 14:45.59 | zenzelezz | so I post it on Facebook, and 10 minutes later my mom sends me an SMS because she's afraid I'll throw it away |
| 14:46.43 | karl_w_w | so a lot like every time you install new windows |
| 14:46.58 | karl_w_w | there's always something you miss |
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| 14:51.57 | Dagmar | Yeah but typically it's a little hard to misplace a window |
| 14:56.49 | Wobin | hm, how much is the Imperial prepurchase for ESO in the states? |
| 15:01.37 | Dagmar | Probably $65 but lemme check |
| 15:02.29 | Dagmar | lol $99! |
| 15:02.51 | Wobin | for the digital? |
| 15:03.39 | Dagmar | I've no idea if they're even going to do that because the emails they're bombarding me with don't say |
| 15:04.10 | Dagmar | Found a link. One moment |
| 15:05.50 | Dagmar | Nevermind. After entering my birthdate nine times, it's clear they're not really interested in taking preorders yet |
| 15:05.58 | Wobin | hahah =) |
| 15:06.20 | Wobin | what does https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store say? |
| 15:06.45 | karl_w_w | $119.95 AUD |
| 15:07.00 | karl_w_w | so cheap! |
| 15:07.03 | Wobin | yeah, I'm hoping the USD is vastly cheaper |
| 15:07.18 | Wobin | I bet it's at least $40 cheaper |
| 15:07.21 | Dagmar | $79.99 |
| 15:07.26 | Wobin | pow |
| 15:07.34 | karl_w_w | are you a wizard? |
| 15:08.01 | Dagmar | I think I'll let them finish the game |
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| 15:09.47 | Fisker | What does the fox say Wobin? |
| 15:11.08 | Wobin | ring-dingdingdingdingding |
| 15:13.30 | zenzelezz | that has to be the most successful Norwegian commercial ever |
| 15:13.41 | Fisker | It isn't a commercial |
| 15:13.47 | Wobin | Dagmar: and the standard version is 49.95? |
| 15:13.52 | zenzelezz | I don't know the proper English word |
| 15:14.04 | Wobin | advertisement? |
| 15:14.16 | zenzelezz | I thought those were interchangeable? |
| 15:14.17 | Wobin | similar word, slightly different meaning |
| 15:14.22 | zenzelezz | oh |
| 15:14.24 | Fisker | skit |
| 15:14.25 | zenzelezz | then probably |
| 15:14.26 | Fisker | sketch |
| 15:14.27 | Fisker | bit |
| 15:14.28 | Fisker | whatever |
| 15:14.35 | karl_w_w | the word is song |
| 15:14.36 | Fisker | It's the equivalent of The Lonely Island on SNL |
| 15:14.53 | zenzelezz | karl_w_w: no. It was made to entice people to watch their show |
| 15:14.57 | Fisker | I'm an adult |
| 15:15.01 | Wobin | lies |
| 15:15.05 | karl_w_w | trailer |
| 15:15.06 | Fisker | nope |
| 15:20.56 | Brulath | hmm. has the combat log "Filter" button ever worked for other people? I was just trying to figure out why my lowbie hunter's pet decided to attack a mage after instructing it to exclusively attack the shaman that assaulted me, but I can't figure out any way of seeing the pet's output... because the filter button doesn't seem to work, and I don't recall it ever working. it's a little odd. |
| 15:21.14 | Brulath | I assume an addon is interfering, but I don't have any that touch the combatlog :o |
| 15:23.30 | karl_w_w | my combat log barely works at all |
| 15:24.06 | Brulath | it's not something that a google search can find an answer to, searching for "combat log", even with quotes, brings up so much unrelated garbage it's somewhat amusing |
| 15:28.34 | Wobin | karl_w_w: http://www.oneplay.com/download/details/11416_Elder_Scrolls_Online__PC_ hm |
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| 15:29.17 | karl_w_w | pre-ordering games is for chumps anyway |
| 15:29.37 | Wobin | Well, I have a decent idea on how it'll play |
| 15:30.01 | Wobin | from what I've *cough* heard *cough* on the *cough* net |
| 15:30.31 | Wobin | It's certainly holding my interest a bit more than WoW atm =\ |
| 15:30.42 | Brulath | oh right, nda |
| 15:30.44 | Wobin | That could be the whole 'new and different' thing |
| 15:30.52 | Wobin | though |
| 15:31.07 | Wobin | no idea how long that interest will last, I mean, look at SWTOR |
| 15:32.22 | Brulath | that one was great, only lasted until about 30min after acquiring a sword |
| 15:32.45 | Wobin | you mean, lightsabre? |
| 15:33.41 | Brulath | I don't think you can call something that takes 5 hits to kill a creature a lightsabre, it's more like a glowing sword :) |
| 15:42.06 | Dagmar | Sparklebat |
| 15:42.15 | Wobin | nerfsabre |
| 15:43.05 | Wobin | and on that note, gah, nearly 3am |
| 15:43.08 | Wobin | night =P |
| 15:45.36 | Brulath | odd that it's under nda with 58 days to release |
| 15:48.40 | nevcairiel | I've heard plenty bad things about it, more then good things tbh |
| 15:50.09 | Wobin | I'm kinda interested in Wildstar, actually |
| 15:50.38 | Cloudfoz | jleclanche: I tried both |
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| 16:01.23 | Stanzilla | wildstar is ok |
| 16:01.34 | Stanzilla | expected more though |
| 16:01.39 | Stanzilla | the combat system is so weird |
| 16:04.18 | Wobin | weird is good |
| 16:04.23 | Wobin | or rather different is good |
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| 16:09.07 | zenzelezz | that's not necessarily true |
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| 18:05.08 | pompy | http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1953210-american-bobsledder-johnny-quinn-breaks-out-of-bathroom-in-sochi |
| 18:05.12 | pompy | lol look at that material |
| 18:08.12 | Arrowmaster | cheap lightweight interior door |
| 18:09.04 | Arrowmaster | the fact that the door broke instead of the lock or door frame is the funny part |
| 18:11.37 | pompy | and here we go http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1952747-russia-hides-olympic-rings-blunder-on-tv-broadcast |
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| 19:11.19 | VIad | hmmm |
| 19:11.20 | VIad | Semlar: |
| 19:11.42 | VIad | I am playing with namepaltes and I simply wanted to hide the barframe and the nameframe from the original plates, then add my own bars and such on there |
| 19:11.53 | VIad | this way I reuse the blizz frame and simply add my shit on it |
| 19:12.06 | VIad | problem is that this way I ruin the :GetChildren() and :GetRegions() calls |
| 19:12.13 | VIad | I assumed adding more stuff simply appends at the end |
| 19:12.25 | VIad | but it seems PlateBuffs( addon depended on scanning the frame) breaks :P |
| 19:12.40 | VIad | ugh it seems I have to make a parent frame to stalk the blizzard frame at all times |
| 19:12.44 | VIad | only to avoid this issue |
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| 19:16.01 | Mr_Rabies | that's what a lot of interior doors look like, pompy :p they're generally super thin pieces of wood with a cheap core like cardboard |
| 19:21.24 | zenzelezz | not in all countries |
| 19:21.25 | Mr_Rabies | i'm honestly surprised the core was that nice and not like, recycled newspapers or teddy bears or something |
| 19:22.34 | Mr_Rabies | older buildings/higher end places might use more solid interior doors, but i don't much see the point, as a utlitarian in many aspects |
| 19:23.11 | Mr_Rabies | just makes the door harder to open/close, more expensive, etc |
| 19:24.17 | Amarande | some such doors I'm not even sure even HAVE a core |
| 19:24.23 | Amarande | I think some of the doors here might be hollow |
| 19:25.03 | Mr_Rabies | i imagine if they used slightly thicker wood they could probably just have them hollow, yeah |
| 19:27.18 | Cloudfoz | find me such a door in western europe oO |
| 19:27.49 | Cloudfoz | particularily, it doesn't look like even the surface was made of wood |
| 19:28.07 | nevcairiel | its no secret we build more solid than the amuricans Cloudfoz |
| 19:28.08 | Shirik | so I'm sitting here trying to write a prime number solver, and I write a little unit test assert(nonPrimes[2791] == false); |
| 19:28.23 | Shirik | I want to make sure the other case works too, so I go "oh well I'll just pick a number right next to it" |
| 19:28.29 | Shirik | assert(nonPrimes[2789] == true); |
| 19:28.44 | Shirik | Then I spend the next 10 minutes trying to figure out why my code doesn't work |
| 19:28.49 | Shirik | then realize 2789 is ALSO prime :( |
| 19:28.59 | nevcairiel | should've used 2790, can be sure with that one |
| 19:29.28 | Shirik | yeah I just thought that the whole "powers of 2" thing was too easy |
| 19:29.30 | Shirik | wanted to be more sure |
| 19:29.44 | Amarande | Don't use 8675309 either :) |
| 19:30.01 | Shirik | wtf that's prime o.o |
| 19:30.53 | zenzelezz | World of Tanks, where "you must be Polish" is the most common insult |
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| 19:34.49 | karl_w_w | anyone play dota 2 and want to do the year beast? |
| 19:35.28 | karl_w_w | Shirik? |
| 19:35.50 | Shirik | I don't "really" play dota 2 and I have no idea what year beast is |
| 19:36.03 | karl_w_w | oh it's the event dude |
| 19:36.10 | karl_w_w | he is much difficult |
| 19:36.34 | karl_w_w | but you need ingot things before you can do it and if you havent played the last week you wont have any |
| 19:39.19 | nevcairiel | i havent plaid for a month now, so no dice there |
| 19:39.24 | nevcairiel | played* |
| 19:39.31 | nevcairiel | wonder what i was thinking to make that typo |
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| 19:48.20 | Cloudfoz | I have an idea about your thought pattern |
| 19:51.57 | Semlar | VIad: you don't have to parent to the nameplate to anchor to it |
| 19:52.03 | VIad | I know |
| 19:52.05 | VIad | fixing it atm |
| 19:52.07 | VIad | works so far :) |
| 19:52.23 | Semlar | you'll just have to hook it's show/hide methods |
| 19:52.39 | Neffi | <nevcairiel> its no secret we build more solid than the amuricans Cloudfoz <- No self respecting American contractor is using those cheap ass doors. We have a word for them: Home Depot garbage |
| 19:52.57 | Neffi | That's what big companies use to quickly prefabricate houses at the lowest cost possible, and even that's not too common |
| 19:53.42 | nevcairiel | so your doors are more solid than the drywall around it? :D |
| 19:53.49 | Neffi | Yeah |
| 19:54.11 | Cloudfoz | kch kch |
| 19:54.24 | Neffi | In my house where my father recently rebuilt much of it, I'd have to rip the framing off trying to kick through the door |
| 19:54.35 | Semlar | the interior doors? |
| 19:55.14 | Semlar | why are you guys talking about doors |
| 19:55.36 | Neffi | because http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1953210-american-bobsledder-johnny-quinn-breaks-out-of-bathroom-in-sochi |
| 19:55.36 | nevcairiel | if the door opens outwards from where you are kicking, the plan is usually for the frame to break and releasing the lock that way, not going "through" the door :p |
| 19:55.55 | Semlar | well of course, an interior door is supposed to be hollow core |
| 19:56.05 | Neffi | Notice he's an American bobsledder. He probably didn't expect the door to break, because he's used to a higher standard of building |
| 19:56.30 | Neffi | I actually dont know if I could manage even that nev, because the frames on these doors are pretty well built |
| 19:57.19 | nevcairiel | if you put your weight into it, you can put a lot of pressure on it |
| 19:57.51 | Amarande | yeah, well, even something built from the cheapest possible Home Depot parts is probably an order of magnitude better than the hotels in Sochi :P |
| 19:58.25 | Neffi | In my grandmother's house I had to break down a door (don't ask) that wasn't particularly heavy duty. Just a solid wood door. I literally could not do it. Because my grandfather built it, not some shitty company that uses criminally terrible cost cutting. |
| 19:59.13 | nevcairiel | if everything is really solid wood then its going to be hard, but not many doors will be solid wood because its not really required for a decent door |
| 19:59.30 | Neffi | America used to pride itself in high quality construction and engineering. There's still a lot of us that do. It's mostly the big multinational companies that don't, and that gives us a bad image because those companies originate here. |
| 20:00.00 | Neffi | But even more local companies tend to take pride in their work |
| 20:00.46 | Amarande | OTOH, in defence of Home Depot, keep in mind, they're catering to a large degree to a DIY crowd. Solid doors have a little bit of trouble in that regard. |
| 20:00.54 | Amarande | Which is that you have to CARRY the damn thing |
| 20:01.35 | Neffi | Which makes sense. But they're also predatory with respect to more specialized businesses. They've totally abolished a lot of good outlets for construction materials. |
| 20:01.37 | Amarande | And even cheap stuff gets heavy quickly. While back I bought a cheapo desk from OfficeMax (which since fell into sorriness and was disassembled and discarded, natch) |
| 20:01.51 | Amarande | Friggin box weighed 155 lbs all told. |
| 20:02.03 | Neffi | Now the nearest place you can find good lumber, good doors and framing and that sort of stuff is like central Jersey |
| 20:03.29 | Amarande | ROFL @ nVidia |
| 20:03.37 | Neffi | What'd they do now? |
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| 20:03.41 | Amarande | "This package cannot be used as a flotation device, seat cushion, replacement windshield, or binoculars" |
| 20:04.03 | Shirik | they can't tell me not to use it as a seat cushion |
| 20:04.14 | Amarande | it says that on the inner box for my 770, LOL |
| 20:04.39 | Neffi | heh |
| 20:04.43 | karl_w_w | "Launching the game will now allow you to reconnect to a match in progress even while searching for the Dota 2 Network. In concert with this change, all existing low priority punishments have been reset." |
| 20:04.46 | karl_w_w | oh god |
| 20:04.51 | karl_w_w | not a time to play dota 2 then |
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| 20:06.10 | Shirik | I don't understand |
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| 20:08.57 | Amarande | I'm guessing "low priority punishments" are given out for the least serious but probably most socially irritating offences :S |
| 20:18.02 | zenzelezz | probably more like "go fuck yourself - when you're not busy" |
| 20:35.48 | karl_w_w | http://www.twitch.tv/trumpsc 4 eviscerates |
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| 20:57.05 | Kesava | Semlar/neffi: is there a problem with kui inparticular or all nameplate addons? |
| 20:57.19 | Semlar | no |
| 20:57.41 | Kesava | good good. I can't see the full conversation |
| 20:57.46 | Semlar | i'm just trying to do something i probably shouldn't |
| 20:57.50 | Kesava | ah |
| 20:58.59 | Neffi | I like how he addressed me as well |
| 20:59.27 | Kesava | well i see you said "note: this addon does not function with kui's nameplates, and possibly others" etc |
| 20:59.28 | nevcairiel | that seems to be Semlar's general MO |
| 20:59.34 | Kesava | but i only see a few lines before that |
| 20:59.53 | Kesava | guess that's when my computer finally decided to sleep |
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| 22:14.58 | Ressy | uh.. Anyone install CurseVoice? |
| 22:15.42 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 22:15.51 | Stanzilla | been using it all evening |
| 22:16.28 | Ressy | You notice an odd issue where many programs have just been uninstalled without you doing it? |
| 22:20.32 | nevcairiel | wtf is cursevoice |
| 22:21.05 | Amarande | nev: what affliction warlocks incant in? :) |
| 22:22.30 | Ressy | Oh well.. Looks like a rollback for me. |
| 22:22.56 | nevcairiel | the only reference i found is a ventrilo hosting service from curse, which leads to a 404 page these days since the post i found was from 2011 :p |
| 22:26.32 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: http://beta.cursevoice.com/ |
| 22:26.51 | nevcairiel | why would you write a new voice software |
| 22:27.00 | nevcairiel | plus, i dont really trust in curse to produce quality anything |
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| 22:27.05 | nevcairiel | they haven't really in the past :p |
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| 22:45.41 | jleclanche | https://pay.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1xcdtk/the_generally_helpful_bashrc_alias_thread/cfa5z4k |
| 22:45.51 | jleclanche | winner of the monthly bashrc thread. |
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| 22:52.53 | Breagha | bounces a little |
| 22:53.31 | Breagha | Sooo... why can't I call a button I set up in a different function? <.< |
| 22:54.27 | Gnarfoz | scoping |
| 22:54.49 | Gnarfoz | (maybe?) |
| 22:55.36 | Breagha | I'm new at scripting - what does scoping mean? That the function with the button should come before the call for it? |
| 22:56.32 | Corv | Anything you declare "local" inside a function (or loop, or other block) is only visible there. |
| 22:57.02 | Breagha | It isn't local... |
| 22:57.43 | Breagha | The function that calls for it is local, though... could it be that? |
| 22:57.56 | Gnarfoz | no, that's the other way around. |
| 22:57.56 | Corv | Wanna post the code to pastebin or the like? |
| 22:58.03 | jleclanche | Breagha: pasting some code will probably help. im going to bed though so i wont be able to answer but post it on dpaste.com or something |
| 22:58.26 | Breagha | *nodnods* It's a lot, though |
| 23:00.18 | Breagha | http://pastebin.com/72W3iBxn |
| 23:00.57 | Breagha | Calling it in HearthstoneListener |
| 23:01.24 | Breagha | And creating it in createButtons right on top of it |
| 23:02.12 | Corv | Starting at line 7, the strName you pass into the createButtons function doesn't do anything. |
| 23:02.29 | Corv | On line 8, you replace strName with the new Button you create. |
| 23:03.00 | Corv | Then you do a lot of other things inside that function, but the function doesn't return a value, |
| 23:03.11 | Breagha | So all my buttons are called strName? :/ |
| 23:03.23 | Corv | and you don't give the Button a name, so the Button is invisible outside the createButtons function. |
| 23:03.46 | Corv | No... none of them have names, and none of them are reachable from outside that funciton. |
| 23:03.50 | Corv | You could do a few things. |
| 23:04.15 | Corv | Change the nil on line 8 to a useful name, and reference the buttons by looking them up in the global table. |
| 23:04.52 | Corv | Like, if you passed in a number i, you could call CreateFrame("Button", "MyButton..i", strParent) |
| 23:05.05 | Corv | And then find those buttons via _G["MyButton"..i] |
| 23:05.20 | Corv | What you probably *want* to do, though. |
| 23:05.36 | Corv | Oh, woops. |
| 23:06.08 | Breagha | Woops? What'd I do now? |
| 23:06.14 | Corv | No, I woopsed =) |
| 23:06.14 | Breagha | v.v |
| 23:06.34 | Corv | Lemme write this out in another post instead of blathering here. |
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| 23:14.06 | Corv | You can either do this, which puts all of the buttons in a table: http://pastebin.com/4k960chc |
| 23:14.31 | Corv | Or change that nil on line 8 to the strName you pass in, and then change the lines from ~114 onward to actually have strings as their first argument |
| 23:14.53 | Corv | There are some other issues, but that will let you find the buttons from outside those functions, at least. |
| 23:15.47 | Breagha | Other issues? Mor things I forgot to make strings? >.< |
| 23:16.45 | Breagha | Even called it strName to remind myself it should be a string... |
| 23:17.06 | Breagha | rolls her eyes at herself |
| 23:17.37 | Corv | Passing in a string as the name for the button makes sense, but inside that function, you assign the button itself to a variable named strName. |
| 23:17.59 | Corv | That's confusing, and possibly not what you were aiming for. |
| 23:18.14 | Breagha | No... I'm good at confusing myself ^^ |
| 23:19.01 | Corv | Beyond that, it's just verbose, which isn't so much a problem right now as it might be harder to maintain in the future. |
| 23:19.10 | Corv | (mostly the createButtons function) |
| 23:20.32 | Breagha | Not sure how to make it less verbose... Still very new at this, heh :/ |
| 23:20.52 | Corv | If you're just starting out, I'd say just push on and make it work. Worry about clean and pretty once it's functional. |
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| 23:21.18 | Breagha | nodnods |
| 23:21.43 | nevcairiel | verbose is good when learning. Usually I would say less chance of confusion due to optimized short code, but guess that didn't work out too well, huh |
| 23:21.54 | Breagha | lol |
| 23:23.14 | Breagha | Thanks a lot for taking the time to help me ^^ |
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