| 00:03.15 | kd3 | so I wonder if we're moving to new york or they're moving to chicago? |
| 00:04.30 | Gnarfoz | if anything's moving, it's data :P |
| 00:08.09 | Amarande | the servers are still kept in their original data centres? that's gotta be just great for lag heh |
| 00:09.54 | Amarande | but hey, never fear, net neutrality's not here! so blizzard can just make arrangements with the backbone and ISPs to give WoW traffic priority over normal traffic to deal with that one :P |
| 00:11.46 | Esamynn|work | Amarande: I wish that were funny :P |
| 00:12.08 | Amarande | Esamynn: heh, yeah, and it would be false comfort for Blizzard to embrace that opening |
| 00:12.27 | Amarande | especially since *other* potential developments in no-net-neutrality are likely to be pretty cruelly damaging to WoW |
| 00:12.43 | Amarande | assuming they happen, anyway |
| 00:13.02 | Amarande | one such development would be a real raid-breaker if it happens :| |
| 00:13.04 | Esamynn|work | I really wish someone would come along with the guts to just declare ISPs as the common carriers they are and be done with it |
| 00:14.08 | Amarande | the one I've seen mentioned on Ars is ISPs planning on getting into the VOIP business themselves (as in competing with vent etc. rather than the normal phone sort) |
| 00:14.35 | Amarande | basically, provide their own, prioritise it, let competing voips fall to the wolves |
| 00:15.19 | Neffi | Obama has asked the FCC to do something about it |
| 00:15.53 | Amarande | in that case, either you raid at 3AM when there's limited traffic, you're all on one ISP (so you can all be members of the in-house voip) or you watch someone constantly bugger up on progression content because to him the raid leader sounds like he's got marbles in his mouth |
| 00:16.59 | Amarande | well ... I guess it's not quite that dreary, I can't imagine Google and Microsoft not cutting deals if it came to that |
| 00:17.12 | Amarande | but skype and hangouts aren't exactly the kind of resource light platforms that are comfy alongside a game |
| 00:17.57 | Neffi | I don't understand why the FCC doesn't just classify ISPs as common carriers |
| 00:18.13 | Amarande | because the FCC heads are too wimpysauce to turn on their former corporate masters |
| 00:18.26 | Amarande | or, more to the point, their FUTURE corporate masters, since they're thinking about their job prospects afterwards :P |
| 00:23.59 | Neffi | I don't quite understand their reasoning. As I gather, they don't want ISPs to be common carriers because that would imply that they're not allowed to refuse to offer service to any individual. |
| 00:24.36 | Neffi | I don't know why that's a bad thing, but even granting, they still tried to apply all the other regulations to ISPs except that one, and it failed in court on the basis that they ought to be classified as common carriers |
| 00:25.01 | Neffi | So now they're neither common carriers, nor regulated like them |
| 00:25.06 | Amarande | hm, wonder if it's the whole anti-piracy bullshit |
| 00:25.15 | Neffi | I suspect it might be |
| 00:25.28 | Amarande | if ISPs are classified as common carriers, basically every one of the gov's pet schemes against piracy comes up epic fail |
| 00:25.29 | Neffi | Lobbyists or certain interests want the six-strikes thing to be a thing |
| 00:25.41 | Neffi | And common carriers cannot legally implement six strikes deals |
| 00:26.00 | Amarande | heh in fact in such a case, if the gov passes any of their piracy things, ISPs would basically be *unable to comply with the law* |
| 00:26.05 | Amarande | as in, in violation if you do, in violation if you don't |
| 00:26.33 | Amarande | now they can just pressure ISPs to shove "likely piracy traffic" to the bottom of the heap so it gets dialup-esque speeds heh |
| 00:26.52 | Neffi | This underlines an interest behavior of the legal system, an ironic loophole |
| 00:27.05 | Amarande | heh, that'll be fun for companies like Blizzard and Turbine :| |
| 00:27.38 | Neffi | The plaintiff doesn't want ISPs to be regulated like common carriers, so it argues that there's not enough regulations, that ISPs actually are common carriers, so the infrastructure regulating them must be set aside, thus cancelling out all regulation |
| 00:27.39 | Amarande | Hope you didn't plan on doing ANYTHING on patch day because they won't be able to spread the pain around the playerbase, since any torrent protocol stuff'd probably get flagged and shoved to the bottom |
| 00:27.44 | Neffi | Without actually making them common carriers |
| 00:28.30 | Amarande | (On the bright side, Turbine would finally have to give up that damned Pando Media Booster) |
| 00:28.50 | Amarande | or what did I call it once, Can'tDo Media Booster, LOL |
| 00:28.52 | Neffi | It won't get that bad because that's not in anyone's best interest |
| 00:29.09 | Neffi | It in an ISP's best interest to provide you with a working service. They just want to make more money doing it |
| 00:29.20 | Amarande | yeah, I'm not even sure that cable companies will even do much of anything |
| 00:29.31 | Amarande | they don't have to. they just have to indicate that there's a chance they might change stuff |
| 00:29.46 | Amarande | which basically forces people to avoid the cheap triple play plans because those are immutable for the year, which is a bad thing then |
| 00:29.59 | Neffi | I'm not afraid that I won't be able to download WoW anymore. Hell I'll even find a way to comfortably pirate still. What I don't like, is that the restrictions that do come along might be just small enough that nobody will bother complaining |
| 00:30.07 | Amarande | the Lasker principle is a pretty accurate one, indeed, in real life as in chess, apparently |
| 00:30.13 | Neffi | So they can comfortably restrict this and that only a little |
| 00:30.55 | Amarande | Lasker being Emanuel Lasker, World Chess Champion from 1894 to 1921 |
| 00:31.05 | Amarande | one of his most famous quotes is "a threat is stronger than its execution" |
| 00:31.41 | Neffi | I like that |
| 00:32.22 | Neffi | I think the VoIP scare is realistic. Throttling VoIP and the cutting a deal with somebody like MS to let Skype go through at full quality. I can see that happening. And other things like it. |
| 00:32.31 | Neffi | Bad, but not so bad that people won't continue to pay for the service |
| 00:32.36 | Amarande | Yeah, I'm wondering what that will do to raids, mainly |
| 00:32.49 | Amarande | The problem is that the "in-house" VOIPs would only be any good if you were on *that ISP* |
| 00:33.07 | Amarande | Ventrilo would be throttled, since it's usually hosted by small businesses that probably wouldn't be able to make the deal |
| 00:33.29 | Neffi | Right now I'm not *too* worried though, because no ISP is insane enough to make that drastic a change overnight, nor will they invest in that change until they know that net neutrality really is done for |
| 00:33.39 | Neffi | So the FCC still has time to get off its ass and do something |
| 00:33.40 | Amarande | and Skype and Hangouts, as I understand it, are too resource-heavy to really be comfortable as gaming VOIPs, especially for group members with less powerful PCs |
| 00:34.20 | Neffi | Amarande: I would see the ISPs cutting deals with existing VoIP companies. You think they really want to manage their own VoIP just for the fuck of it? |
| 00:34.32 | Amarande | although Hangouts would be damned AWESOME for guild meetings |
| 00:34.37 | Neffi | It makes more sense to negotiate a partnership with Skype than roll your own VoIP |
| 00:35.29 | Amarande | And actually as I understand it it's more likely to be a "you don't get priority" than specifically throttling |
| 00:36.08 | Amarande | You can't put cars in the slow vehicle lane unless you can concretely establish what that is, and apparently VOIP can use too many widely assorted ports to really efficiently shape |
| 00:36.15 | Neffi | That way, they can advertise their industry-leading VoIP solutions from a proven and trusted partnership! Instead of offering you a half-baked service that has a good chance of not matching up to the likes of Skype, dealing with customer outcry, and eventually having to cancel it |
| 00:36.20 | Amarande | OTOH, you can designate all the other lanes as fast vehicles only and then only let designated cars on those ones |
| 00:36.30 | Neffi | It makes way more sense to haggle a deal with a well established infrastructure |
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| 00:36.42 | Amarande | meaning, the "you want to use vent, go raid at 3AM" would be more likely |
| 00:37.34 | Amarande | ... heh, that might not be all that bad for East Coasters now that the game is basically entirely Pacific Time based, though |
| 00:37.48 | Amarande | 3AM Pacific is a "omg late" raid time on the West Coast, but it's just early-riser time on the East Coast |
| 00:37.57 | Neffi | Anyway, I like to think there's sufficient pressure for the FCC to do something, so I'm gonna stop worrying about this |
| 00:46.39 | Esamynn|work | bah, ventrillo sucks anyway, I don't even have the client installed anymore. problem is, mumble has even less commercial impetus behind it, with respect to this topic |
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| 01:19.53 | kd3 | grr. someone needs to poke qa to update the launcher data when they update the realms |
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| 01:26.24 | zenzelezz | it's amazing how much better your monitors work when you turn them on |
| 01:26.33 | zenzelezz | and no, I am totally not drunk right now |
| 01:26.41 | zenzelezz | neither is my friend Morgan |
| 01:32.01 | Esamynn|work | ~fishslap zenzelezz |
| 01:32.01 | purl | ACTION slaps zenzelezz up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 01:32.09 | Esamynn|work | ~liar zenzelezz |
| 01:32.16 | Esamynn|work | :( |
| 01:34.12 | TC-Work | I dunno Esamynn|work, the typing seems resonable. |
| 01:34.21 | TC-Work | reasonable* |
| 01:34.23 | TC-Work | unlike mine. |
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| 01:46.48 | znf | Anyone ever seen this? [393814.943282] Request for unknown module key 'Magrathea: Glacier signing key: 5f32dde6ae99ae14b29fb35e935289fb4b6cfb20' err -11 |
| 01:46.48 | znf | [393814.989929] Request for unknown module key 'Magrathea: Glacier signing key: 5f32dde6ae99ae14b29fb35e935289fb4b6cfb20' err -11 |
| 01:46.48 | znf | [393814.997110] Request for unknown module key 'Magrathea: Glacier signing key: 5f32dde6ae99ae14b29fb35e935289fb4b6cfb20' err -11 |
| 01:46.48 | znf | [393815.000351] Request for unknown module key 'Magrathea: Glacier signing key: 5f32dde6ae99ae14b29fb35e935289fb4b6cfb20' err -11 |
| 01:46.50 | znf | [393815.013904] SGI XFS with ACLs, security attributes, realtime, large block/inode numbers, no debug enabled |
| 01:46.53 | znf | [393815.023114] Request for unknown module key 'Magrathea: Glacier signing key: 5f32dde6ae99ae14b29fb35e935289fb4b6cfb20' err -11 |
| 01:46.56 | znf | [393815.027414] JFS: nTxBlock = 8192, nTxLock = 65536 |
| 01:46.58 | znf | [393815.041532] Request for unknown module key 'Magrathea: Glacier signing key: 5f32dde6ae99ae14b29fb35e935289fb4b6cfb20' err -11 |
| 01:47.01 | znf | [393815.049987] Request for unknown module key 'Magrathea: Glacier signing key: 5f32dde6ae99ae14b29fb35e935289fb4b6cfb20' err -11 |
| 01:47.03 | kd3 | wow, don't paste in here |
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| 01:48.06 | znf | Sorry |
| 01:48.23 | znf | I thought I had the link in my clipboard :-/ |
| 01:48.35 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/oZvkQPw.png was what I wanted to paste |
| 01:50.03 | Kaylin | http://i.imgur.com/jQRnXNK.jpg |
| 01:50.15 | kd3 | here's an early google result from that search string: https://lwn.net/Articles/518443/ |
| 01:50.38 | znf | kd3, that's what I found, too |
| 01:50.48 | znf | but nothing as to why the hell did it suddenly show up in my dmesg |
| 01:51.11 | kd3 | scroll up, there should be something about trying to load something in and failing |
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| 01:52.12 | znf | nope... |
| 01:52.24 | znf | the other message before that is my eth0 link going down/up |
| 01:58.48 | pompy | haha, so the Undercover Boss episode tonight. It was the Hudson News company that's in the airports and such. The one kid said how he met his wife in World of Warcraft. And the CEO asked the kid if he's heard of "Blizzcon", he told him yes, but he's never been to one. So the CEO told him he's going to send him and his wife to the next Blizzcon, haha. |
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| 02:19.54 | Amarande | heh, I've never been to a Blizzcon either. the ticketing is just too crazy for me to try anything but the virtual ticket, either |
| 02:20.19 | Amarande | let's see, I'd have to ask for time off from work for something that I have about as much chance of actually getting a ticket for as I do of winning on one of my scratch lottos. :P |
| 02:25.02 | Amarande | DragonCon is about as nail-biting as I'm willing to go as tough-to-get con rooms go :S |
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| 03:09.13 | Shirik | today I realized cheeseburgers have all of the major food groups in one convenient meal |
| 03:09.21 | Shirik | therefore cheeseburgers must be the healthiest food in existence |
| 03:09.24 | Shirik | my logic is infalliable |
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| 03:32.31 | kd3 | emails out |
| 03:33.00 | Iriel | kd3: email received |
| 03:33.57 | kd3 | idly wonders why the toc doesn't change the way it used to whenever they made a breaking change... |
| 03:35.17 | Iriel | I suspect they don't think about us the way slouken used to. |
| 03:35.21 | Iriel | sighs wistfully |
| 03:57.37 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: Yea, it's server issues |
| 03:57.49 | Shirik | ? |
| 03:57.51 | Thunder_Child | eg. you lost because of an 'act of god' |
| 03:57.55 | Shirik | oh |
| 03:57.59 | Shirik | the "loss prevented" |
| 03:57.59 | Thunder_Child | but they will not peanlize you |
| 03:58.02 | Thunder_Child | yea |
| 03:58.16 | Thunder_Child | penalize* |
| 04:00.23 | Dagmar | Hey at least it was penilize |
| 04:08.05 | Kaylin | Shirik @ cheeseburgers being healthy |
| 04:41.15 | Arrowmaster | yuck |
| 04:42.36 | Arrowmaster | its been almost 2 months since ive been eating low carb, i dont even want cheeseburgers anymore |
| 05:01.39 | Thunder_Child | The two are not mutually exclusive. |
| 05:06.53 | Corrodias2 | cheeseburger lettuce wrap! |
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| 05:17.56 | pompy | really blizz? auth server issues on a friday night? :P |
| 05:18.10 | Corrodias2 | this has literally never happened before! |
| 05:18.58 | pompy | ! |
| 05:19.53 | Arrowmaster | http://youtu.be/qi5s1ZnhjtM |
| 05:36.28 | karl_w_w | "Project has not been touched for at least 90 days and default file is out of date." <- this is how curseforge decides if an addon has been abandoned? |
| 05:36.34 | karl_w_w | what are they smoking? |
| 05:37.22 | Gethe | toc updates are very important |
| 05:37.33 | Corrodias2 | what counts as "out of date"? the day of a patch release? so your addon is "abandoned" immediately if you haven't been updating it BEFORE the patch? |
| 05:40.58 | pompy | MASTER TORHAL...... RESPOND! ^ |
| 05:41.00 | pompy | caps |
| 05:41.03 | pompy | not really |
| 05:41.20 | Dagmar | Solution: Zalgo version numbers. |
| 05:44.05 | Gethe | D: |
| 05:50.41 | Torhal | Corrodias2: What project, presuming you're talking about CurseForge...? |
| 05:50.48 | Torhal | stabs pompy with a banana. |
| 05:51.15 | Corrodias2 | none; the question was in response to what karl said |
| 05:51.55 | Torhal | karl_w_w: That's been the case for 6 years, though it doesn't always happen for some reason. |
| 05:53.52 | pompy | Torhal: that's mean, why a banana? :\ |
| 05:56.32 | Torhal | For scale, of course. |
| 06:12.35 | pompy | lolwut http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2014/01/29/funcom-offices-raided-delisted-from-oslo-stock-exchange/ |
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| 06:24.51 | airtonix | who here is playing dayz standalone? |
| 06:28.31 | nebula169 | karl_w_w: can avoid addon going out of date by setting the status to mature |
| 06:29.20 | karl_w_w | most boring game airtonix |
| 06:29.32 | karl_w_w | but it's not mature nebula169 :P |
| 06:29.35 | airtonix | I disagree karl |
| 06:30.01 | airtonix | however if you want to talk about shitty ui and crappy developers, then that would be a conversation i could enjoy |
| 06:30.19 | karl_w_w | it's a zombie survival game where the zombies are completely irrelevant |
| 06:30.36 | airtonix | well i lnow my zombies |
| 06:30.41 | airtonix | they aren't zombies |
| 06:31.02 | airtonix | they're olympic sprinters high on bath salts |
| 06:42.25 | Thunder_Child | so qwop? |
| 06:54.50 | airtonix | essentially yes. |
| 06:56.32 | kd3 | gah. my phone kept buzzing for some reason so I got up to check it... someone's trying to break into my gmail account |
| 06:57.38 | kd3 | 1:18 AM Account disabled Unknown |
| 06:58.10 | airtonix | has it got two factor turned on? |
| 06:58.18 | kd3 | yah |
| 06:58.30 | airtonix | why do they keep trying? |
| 06:58.34 | airtonix | lol |
| 06:59.06 | airtonix | software development scenario: more developers doesn |
| 06:59.10 | airtonix | ... |
| 06:59.14 | kd3 | I dunno. I keep getting emails addressed to people with a similar names who live in england and austrailia... |
| 06:59.18 | airtonix | software development scenario: more developers doesnt make a project go faster |
| 06:59.49 | airtonix | ^ there's a persons name that people assign to this scenario, what is it? |
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| 07:00.12 | kd3 | well at this time of day, it'd probably be the aussie one |
| 07:00.25 | Iriel | You're thinking of Brooks' Law |
| 07:00.33 | Iriel | Adding more developers to a late software project makes it later |
| 07:00.52 | Iriel | (his wording is, IIRC, better) |
| 07:00.59 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:01.11 | kd3 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks%27s_law |
| 07:02.04 | Jamash | The Mythical Man-Month is an excellent book |
| 07:02.12 | Iriel | It is. |
| 07:02.18 | Iriel | He's written some others too |
| 07:02.22 | kd3 | anyway, all app passwords revoked, new ones generated, new password set. time to go back to bed. maybe I'll calm down enough to actually sleep |
| 07:02.50 | airtonix | kd3: you forgot to stop all AWS instances |
| 07:03.07 | airtonix | reset the keys, reboot and re-create all the IAMs |
| 07:03.18 | airtonix | i don't think you'll be sleeping tonight |
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| 08:28.14 | Cairenn | ccox: awwwwwwww |
| 08:28.50 | ccox | teeny, tiny bundle of pure cute! |
| 08:29.06 | Cairenn | having a baf! |
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| 10:37.59 | airtonix | hah this book is great |
| 10:38.10 | airtonix | re: mythical man month |
| 10:47.58 | Neffi | I've heard good things about that one |
| 10:55.07 | Neffi | Did Blizzard break Purrmetheus? |
| 11:00.02 | nevcairiel | i think so |
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| 11:13.13 | nebula169 | Neffi: yea, they reimplemented the random function to fix it |
| 11:19.38 | mikma | http://geekologie.com/2014/01/please-dont-shoot-me-new-rip-ammunition.php |
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| 11:40.00 | nebula169 | for when regular hollow point rounds aren't enough! |
| 11:47.51 | nevcairiel | hollow point already makes a head explode like a ripe melon |
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| 11:50.42 | Fisker | asdf nevcairiel |
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| 12:29.23 | Icicle_ | Hey everyone |
| 12:32.42 | zenzelezz | ahoy |
| 12:33.45 | Icicle_ | What's everyone up to |
| 12:35.11 | mikma | Parks and Recreation s04e20 |
| 12:41.50 | VIad | doing a 72 warlock |
| 12:50.23 | Neffi | VIad: Make sure you have a paladin on hand for protection |
| 12:50.40 | VIad | don't worry, I've got my hands on this |
| 12:50.46 | Neffi | haha |
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| 14:20.32 | VIad | in WOD, will they make foilage fade away when the camera blocks the view? |
| 14:21.26 | Neffi | That's oddly specific |
| 14:21.52 | VIad | I mean so many other mmo got this implemented |
| 14:22.10 | VIad | makes it better at watching what is going on with your character, when shit isn't blocking your view all the time :P |
| 14:23.41 | VIad | it basically just makes trees, leaves, e.g. fade out a little when they block the camera (that faces your characters back) |
| 14:25.28 | nevcairiel | that sounds like a lot of effort to pull off after-the-fact |
| 14:25.45 | nevcairiel | If you dont know w hat is a tree, you have to go through the entire world flagging trees :p |
| 14:26.27 | Neffi | Roughly how long would it take a level 90 to reach honored with a new guild doing unfinished MoP quests? |
| 14:26.37 | VIad | maybe not the trees as they are objects with collision |
| 14:26.46 | VIad | but grass, leaves, e.g. all these extra effects, sprites |
| 14:26.50 | nevcairiel | Neffi: not very |
| 14:27.08 | Neffi | Like, an afternoon? |
| 14:27.15 | nevcairiel | might be enough |
| 14:27.19 | nevcairiel | maybe an entire day |
| 14:27.20 | Neffi | cool |
| 14:27.45 | Neffi | All my abandoned characters put together have enough to buy back all the agi heirlooms I lost + the best enchants |
| 14:27.49 | Neffi | But they all got guild dropped |
| 14:28.37 | VIad | nevcairiel: just annoying that bushes block your view at random moments and you gotta fix your camera :( |
| 14:28.51 | VIad | small things but too often and it leaves an impression |
| 14:38.43 | Neffi | Recommended addon to list all uncompleted quests, updated for MoP? |
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| 14:53.35 | VIad | I'd just roll with wowhead or similar |
| 14:54.11 | VIad | they got some functionality to show you what quests you miss |
| 15:11.42 | zenzelezz | I love when games put options/settings under the "extras" menu item... exactly where I would look |
| 15:22.17 | Shirik | skiing today! |
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| 15:28.18 | mikma | i did that with my car already, lol |
| 15:28.38 | bluworkcow | mikma! |
| 15:28.46 | bluworkcow | has a boob kitty |
| 15:28.46 | mikma | bluworkcow: no, not with tnt |
| 15:28.47 | bluworkcow | http://i.imgur.com/1RWAh2K.gif |
| 15:31.23 | Shirik | bluworkcow: y so work on saturday |
| 15:31.59 | bluworkcow | is my shift |
| 15:32.21 | mikma | and my control |
| 15:39.23 | bluworkcow | giggigty |
| 15:39.29 | bluworkcow | your place or mine ? |
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| 15:41.43 | mikma | bluworkcow: neither, cheapest motel |
| 15:41.53 | bluworkcow | :3 |
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| 15:57.37 | karl_w_w | cheapest motel? I'll let you stay at my house for 50 cents |
| 15:57.45 | karl_w_w | that is totally not 1-way glass |
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| 16:50.48 | Neffi | Yeah, hitting honored with a 100% tabard on takes like an hour |
| 16:51.01 | Neffi | I hit honored, plus cooked and cleaned the whole house since I asked heh |
| 17:03.31 | karl_w_w | is it a gingerbread house Neffi? |
| 17:05.31 | Neffi | why yes it is |
| 17:07.54 | Fisker | those are my boobs bluworkcow |
| 17:08.20 | bluworkcow | oh rly ? |
| 17:10.21 | Fisker | yarly |
| 17:10.24 | amro | wow, US Department of State form DS-160 is a masterpiece |
| 17:10.30 | amro | I've been filling this shit out for an hour |
| 17:10.31 | amro | still not done |
| 17:10.51 | mikma | and surely your complaing is going to speed the process up |
| 17:10.59 | mikma | stfu and GET FILLIN'! |
| 17:11.36 | amro | I'm not complaining, I'm impressed |
| 17:12.01 | mikma | then it's not shit, then it's just shitless masterpiece |
| 17:12.50 | amro | parsing error |
| 17:12.52 | amro | what? |
| 17:13.19 | amro | Do you belong to a clan or tribe? |
| 17:13.24 | mikma | yes |
| 17:14.25 | amro | this is the part of the form where they also ask if you're a terrorist |
| 17:14.55 | mikma | propably? |
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| 17:15.04 | mikma | does farting count as mustard gas? |
| 17:15.22 | amro | Are you coming to the United States to engage in prostitution or unlawful commercialized vice? |
| 17:15.25 | amro | WHO ANSWERS YES |
| 17:15.36 | mikma | ummm |
| 17:15.41 | mikma | ok that's dumb |
| 17:15.45 | mikma | next |
| 17:16.06 | amro | Have you committed, ordered, incited, assisted, or otherwise participated in extrajudicial killings, political killings, or other acts of violence? |
| 17:16.26 | amro | I think they're listing every single crime, there's a ton of these |
| 17:16.38 | mikma | it's ok, they just wanna know |
| 17:17.28 | amro | Have you, while serving as a government official, been responsible for or directly carried out, at any time, particularly severe violations of religious freedom? |
| 17:17.33 | amro | I guess moderate violations are ok |
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| 17:30.35 | Semlar | moderately violates neffi |
| 17:31.46 | Neffi | O_O |
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| 18:16.31 | Neffi | Semlar: Have you experienced nameplates randomly getting stuck? |
| 18:16.39 | Neffi | Not moving with the character, just sitting in one spot |
| 18:16.49 | Neffi | I think it has to do with the resizing |
| 18:25.26 | Semlar | no |
| 18:25.47 | Semlar | are you adjusting the camera? |
| 18:25.58 | Neffi | Like zooming? |
| 18:26.00 | Semlar | you can't scale it without moving the camera |
| 18:26.20 | Semlar | it won't update the nameplate positions |
| 18:26.31 | Neffi | Yes, the camera's almost constantly moving |
| 18:26.39 | Neffi | They seem to randomly stick when the move happens |
| 18:26.53 | Semlar | my nameplates don't do that |
| 18:27.22 | pompy | http://www.whitecastle.com/promotions/Valentines-Day-Reservations haha |
| 18:27.34 | Neffi | My container plate is anchored to the first child -- the part you resize |
| 18:27.45 | Neffi | But it also did it when it was anchored to the plate itself |
| 18:28.24 | Semlar | the nameplates don't fix their position after you move the camera? |
| 18:28.53 | Neffi | They usually do. But like 1 in 100 nameplates just gets stuck |
| 18:29.01 | Neffi | And stops moving with the unit it belongs to |
| 18:30.14 | Semlar | well, you need to make sure you're scaling the nameplate itself, not the first child |
| 18:30.33 | Neffi | I'm not scaling, I'm setting height/width |
| 18:30.41 | Neffi | And isn't the first child the clickable region? |
| 18:30.45 | Semlar | that's going to fix itself every time the nameplate is redrawn |
| 18:30.48 | Neffi | Your code was doing it to the first child |
| 18:31.27 | Semlar | one of my examples was to resize the first child if you wanted specific dimensions |
| 18:31.43 | Neffi | http://pastebin.com/uKv9pE0i |
| 18:31.45 | Semlar | every time the nameplate is shown it resizes itself |
| 18:31.59 | Semlar | i told you you needed to make a secure handler for the onshow event if you were going to do that |
| 18:32.19 | Neffi | When? |
| 18:33.42 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:35.03 | Semlar | i would only set the width/height if you need to set an aspect ratio different from the original clickable area |
| 18:35.15 | Semlar | since it fixes itself every time the plate is shown |
| 18:35.25 | Semlar | if you scale the plate itself it stays scaled |
| 18:37.05 | Semlar | and there's a delay after you hover over a unit before it can resize all of the clickable areas |
| 18:37.33 | Semlar | it's long enough that's possible to move the mouse over a nameplate and click it before it gets resized |
| 18:37.38 | Neffi | Resizing them doesn't seem to be a problem |
| 18:54.06 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/CXgPWGF.gif god dammit neffi |
| 18:54.49 | Semlar | this is why we can't have nice things |
| 18:57.08 | Semlar | i'm going to have to ask you to make scrollsframes less bad |
| 18:57.37 | Semlar | SCROLLSFRAMES? |
| 18:59.16 | Neffi | wtf is going on there Semlar? |
| 18:59.27 | Semlar | this is what happens when you use fonts instead of textures |
| 18:59.48 | Semlar | they do not render correctly |
| 18:59.50 | Neffi | Oh right. Didn't you already give up on scrollframes like a couple weeks ago? |
| 19:00.01 | Semlar | I WILL NEVER GIVE UP |
| 19:00.59 | Neffi | I got that cheddar |
| 19:01.11 | Neffi | continues nibbling on a block of sharp cheddar. |
| 19:02.14 | Semlar | i went ahead and wrote that addon to notify me when i'm out of range of a healer |
| 19:02.28 | Semlar | we'll see if it makes any difference |
| 19:02.47 | Neffi | I suspect it will counterintuitively make you die more |
| 19:03.15 | Semlar | possibly |
| 19:03.27 | karl_w_w | http://boards.4chan.org/b/res/530259853#p530261596 chuckle chuckle chuckle |
| 19:03.34 | Semlar | nope 4chan |
| 19:03.40 | karl_w_w | well, not that particular post |
| 19:04.12 | karl_w_w | you guys should be thankful, I endure the crap and share the good ones! |
| 19:04.57 | Neffi | I got one |
| 19:05.29 | Neffi | This kid brought a knife to school and stabbed himself by accident. When the principal came, he said I gave him the knife. Mostly because he was a little shit and we hated each othr |
| 19:05.38 | Neffi | Got suspended for like 2 weeks for doing nothing |
| 19:06.48 | Neffi | Oh, and one of my principals had it out for me and suspended me 3 times in one month. Once was for being late by like 15 minutes. Another time was for *touching the door on the fire extinguisher cabinet* |
| 19:07.05 | Neffi | I still have no idea why he had such an angry vengeance against a 14 year old kid |
| 19:07.55 | karl_w_w | lol |
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| 19:08.13 | Neffi | Now that I read that back, it seems like I'm a trouble maker that won't admit I ever did anything wrong |
| 19:08.23 | Neffi | But I really didn't do anything wrong those times >_> |
| 19:09.34 | karl_w_w | it's all the other times that you did something wrong :P |
| 19:09.51 | Neffi | I was never really a trouble maker |
| 19:10.16 | Neffi | The only reason any teacher might not like me is because I used to prefer reading over doing actual schoolwork |
| 19:10.35 | Neffi | Most of them loved me though. I suspect maybe my stepfather pissed off that principle or something |
| 19:10.37 | kd3 | I got into so much shit for the same thing |
| 19:11.08 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:11.37 | Neffi | I never got into shit, because I was always willing to do any test they put in front of me, always aced them, and they were amazed I never had to study or do work. Maybe they thought I was some genius that automatically knew the shit and deserved to pass. Really I just taught myself at home because the work in school went too slow to keep me interested |
| 19:12.12 | Neffi | Semlar: A thing of beauty |
| 19:14.09 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:14.51 | Neffi | but you didn't die |
| 19:14.59 | Semlar | unusual |
| 19:15.29 | Neffi | Indeed |
| 19:15.51 | Semlar | on the other hand |
| 19:15.57 | Semlar | everyone else did |
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| 19:18.15 | Ressy | Anyone know how long it takes a DK to get out of the starting area? |
| 19:18.28 | Semlar | you'll be like level 58 |
| 19:18.35 | Ressy | blech.. |
| 19:18.38 | Ressy | thanks |
| 19:19.15 | Neffi | Ain't that some shit. Cost of heirloom weapons = 160 darkmoon tickets. Max amount of tickets you can get per faire = 155. |
| 19:22.45 | nevcairiel | faire is shit in general if you ask m e |
| 19:30.32 | Neffi | nevcairiel: Why's that? |
| 19:31.11 | Neffi | I always liked the world events in WoW. It's a nice break from everything else. Occasional quirky fun. |
| 19:32.26 | nevcairiel | the seasonal events are ok, faire always was kinda meh |
| 19:32.37 | nevcairiel | even more so since it moved to its own island |
| 19:32.51 | Neffi | I like that they added the ffa arena |
| 19:33.08 | Neffi | Although I've only stepped into it like twice |
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| 19:49.12 | zenzelezz | I kind of miss the war effort. Was tedious, but I liked it |
| 19:52.20 | Neffi | lots of people bring that up |
| 19:52.31 | Neffi | it'd be totally cool if they did ti again |
| 19:54.31 | kd3|hate`net | as long as they don't put the entire server in silithus |
| 19:54.54 | Iriel | What could possibly go wrong with that? |
| 19:55.36 | zenzelezz | I remember that part |
| 19:55.42 | nevcairiel | i wonder at what point they realized that this was not such a great idea |
| 19:55.54 | zenzelezz | got me killed by a scorpion in Desolace since no-one could do anything anymore |
| 19:55.55 | Iriel | Probably when the first server went down |
| 19:56.06 | nevcairiel | Sadly I was not at home during the day my server opened the gates :( |
| 19:56.18 | kd3 | medivh was a lag hell for a week |
| 19:56.31 | kd3 | has his only real character on medivh |
| 19:58.32 | kd3 | s/a week/weeks/ |
| 20:03.24 | Amarande | zenzelezz: the problem is the expansion cycle |
| 20:03.33 | Amarande | unless you basically make an ENTIRE expansion be about the war effort type thing, it won't work anymore |
| 20:03.55 | Amarande | they wanted to do it in a limited form with the Essence of Immortal turnins for Sunwell, and yeah, because of expansion cycle reasons, it didn't fly |
| 20:04.29 | Amarande | well ... hmm ... that might be a little pessimistic |
| 20:04.42 | nevcairiel | in a much smaller scale they did it with the unlocks on isle of thunder |
| 20:04.52 | Amarande | given how aeonic the amount of time tends to be lately between an expansion's final raid content release and next xpac release, it might work nowadays heh |
| 20:05.38 | Amarande | the problem is how to make it be epic and meaningful without also being a perk mainly for the largest servers where all the big wig raiders congregate |
| 20:06.40 | Amarande | (And given content lately, even they could have trouble depending on how you do it, like ... how many guilds managed to do Heart of Fear on heroic when it was current? I think even the vaunted Illidan-US was only able to put forth six such guilds, heh) |
| 20:08.24 | Amarande | Unless of course this just goes to show that WoW has too damn bloody many servers and should have started merging long ago :P |
| 20:08.26 | Iriel | Epic doesn't have to mean high level |
| 20:08.43 | Iriel | ideally it should be inclusive and have contributions of many forms |
| 20:09.00 | Iriel | the expicness would be getting everyone aligned behind a goal, and there being "content reward" for progressing it |
| 20:09.30 | nevcairiel | war effort included everyone, since you needed craft stuff from all level ranges |
| 20:09.44 | Iriel | exactly |
| 20:09.53 | Iriel | I did my part, sacrificed much of my tailor's cloth |
| 20:10.21 | Iriel | (and like many others, was at work when the gates opened) |
| 20:10.40 | zenzelezz | I spent some time in Winterspring fishing for white salmon |
| 20:11.07 | nevcairiel | we did loads back then |
| 20:11.21 | nevcairiel | fishing, farming linen cloth in westfall |
| 20:11.24 | Amarande | sadly, I didn't join the game till BC, so I didn't get the chance to experience the Gates of Ahn'Crashaj myself :( |
| 20:12.00 | Amarande | It's not a big thing to talk about on the server I played on the most during late Cata and early Mists, anyway, apparently |
| 20:12.31 | Amarande | (also quite understandably ... Ysera-US's gates event was marred so badly by a particular individual that it's actually one case where nobody seems to bat an eye about the fact that said person was overtly named and shamed, apparently ...) |
| 20:12.45 | nevcairiel | many people that were part of it probably dont even play anymore |
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| 20:14.04 | Amarande | heh, it's also a testament to how flaming hard Heart of Fear heroic was |
| 20:14.35 | Amarande | I remember looking at some or other achievement tracker that indicated the Mists raid cloud serpent (that required that) was nearly as rare as the AQ bug |
| 20:15.10 | Amarande | You know it's hard when its reward is on a rarity level with a one-time-only can't-get-it-anymore event reward LOL |
| 20:15.44 | Amarande | and yeah, if you hadn't guessed it, Ysera's bug mount was ninja'd |
| 20:21.32 | Amarande | It would be nice for a new expansion to call for stuff from more level ranges, though. And not just as fashion of the month mog gear. :) |
| 20:21.43 | Amarande | (But dear gods, don't make it as complicated as LOTRO cooking. LOL) |
| 20:35.06 | Semlar | i have the achievement but i didn't buy the mount |
| 20:42.12 | Amarande | hm, I thought if you got the glory of the pandarian raider achievement you automatically got the mount? |
| 20:43.37 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:44.09 | Semlar | glory of the pandaria raider is just kind of a general thing |
| 20:44.52 | Semlar | actually i guess this is too |
| 20:45.06 | Semlar | there isn't anything strictly from heart of fear i guess |
| 20:47.29 | DJJeff | http://www.wow-pro.com/ |
| 20:47.36 | DJJeff | 2.7.0T in curse client |
| 20:47.43 | DJJeff | 2.7.4A on their site |
| 20:48.39 | DJJeff | when you install 2.7.4A from the site it shows up as 1.0.0 in curse client |
| 20:48.40 | Amarande | Semlar: yeah, the reason Heart of Fear is notable in that regard is because you had to complete heroic Heart of Fear to get Glory of the Pandarian Raider, as I recall |
| 20:49.09 | Amarande | and, at least while it was current content, that was an EXTREMELY rare thing to do |
| 20:49.30 | Amarande | I would probably be accurate to say more guilds completed Naxxramas 60 and Sunwell while they were current than managed HoF heroic pre-5.2 |
| 21:36.42 | zenzelezz | that clearly killed the conversation |
| 21:39.00 | Semlar | i hope you're happy |
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| 21:40.55 | Neffi | http://imgur.com/gallery/aZVXz jesus |
| 21:41.02 | Neffi | (not actually jesus) |
| 21:51.19 | Semlar | not actually neffi |
| 21:52.56 | kd3 | huh, that's odd. two copies of the brew of the month |
| 21:55.09 | nevcairiel | i kinda keep getting them on an unregular basis, not sure whats up with that |
| 21:55.57 | nevcairiel | when i got into the club, it was still like a for one year dealy, but then they changed it and i keep getting brews, randomly |
| 21:56.51 | zenzelezz | sounds like the person sending them has had a few |
| 21:59.02 | DJJeff | yawn...... waves hands around in a wild crazy fashion |
| 22:12.43 | Mr_Rabies | geez, semi-manually listing 500+ auctions suuucks |
| 22:17.36 | Mr_Rabies | oh god |
| 22:17.37 | Mr_Rabies | kd3 |
| 22:17.38 | Mr_Rabies | i got 4 copies |
| 22:17.39 | Mr_Rabies | 4. |
| 22:17.57 | Semlar | maybe they're trying to tell you something |
| 22:21.50 | Amarande | Mr_Rabies: can't use auctioneer? |
| 22:22.00 | ccox | Have you ever checked out a business on Yelp and thought that the reviews were TOO good? |
| 22:22.22 | Mr_Rabies | well, i use auctionator, Amarande, but yeah that still takes a while |
| 22:22.39 | Mr_Rabies | since some people will randomly undercut by 90% or more from the market value for a short sale |
| 22:22.47 | Mr_Rabies | on some items |
| 22:22.48 | Amarande | what's *really* fun is when you actually have to do it manually :S |
| 22:22.56 | Mr_Rabies | and i break up stacks, etc |
| 22:23.05 | Amarande | like when an xpack is almost about to come out and the pre-xpack patch breaks everything |
| 22:23.08 | Mr_Rabies | no reason to have a full stack of most crafting mats |
| 22:23.18 | Amarande | blargh |
| 22:23.26 | ccox | Mr_Rabies: yep, and then others will blindly undercut those listings… |
| 22:23.29 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, i usually just hoard my stuff until stuff gets fixed |
| 22:23.34 | Mr_Rabies | yup, ccox |
| 22:23.34 | nevcairiel | i hope you a t leat sell stacks of 5 or 10, a nd are not one of the idiots selling singles :P |
| 22:23.39 | Amarande | plenty of people will tell you that they hate when people break up stacks :| |
| 22:23.43 | Amarande | yeah, what nev says |
| 22:23.46 | Mr_Rabies | i sell a variety, nevcairiel |
| 22:23.54 | Mr_Rabies | 10s, 5s, and singles |
| 22:24.02 | ccox | I almost always sell full stacks of everything but enchants and glyphs |
| 22:24.03 | Amarande | it's "fun" when you're trying to level up stuff like enchanting and find you have to buy your surplus dust needs off the AH ONE BY ONE |
| 22:24.19 | Mr_Rabies | that's actually my preferred way to buy mats tbh |
| 22:24.23 | Mr_Rabies | but auctionator's ui makes that easy |
| 22:24.31 | Amarande | Mr_Rabies: even when you need mass quantities, such as to level up a prof? |
| 22:24.35 | Mr_Rabies | yup |
| 22:24.40 | Amarande | ccox: for that matter, why the hell do glyphs even still stack |
| 22:24.47 | Mr_Rabies | definitely then because i can fine tune it to exactly what i need |
| 22:24.50 | Amarande | it made sense back when you needed to use a new copy each time you swapped glyphs |
| 22:24.55 | Mr_Rabies | instead of buying a whole extra stack |
| 22:24.57 | Amarande | but now that they're perm it doesn't seem to have any point |
| 22:25.08 | Mr_Rabies | auctionator just has a listing for each item's price point |
| 22:25.11 | ccox | Amarande: so my scribe doesn't need 10k bag slots |
| 22:25.13 | nevcairiel | for common mats it seems rather odd to split it up to me. Sure, there may be an occasional user that needs exactly 7, but the majority in my experience will need 100 rather then 10 |
| 22:25.34 | nevcairiel | it just annoys people who buy stuff without an addon to summarize it all |
| 22:25.50 | Amarande | ccox: also, not to mention orange inscription recipes give +3 now |
| 22:25.55 | Mr_Rabies | doesn't bother me, nevcairiel |
| 22:25.57 | Amarande | so you don't have to make anywhere near as many glyphs as you once did |
| 22:26.01 | Mr_Rabies | they can choose to not buy my singles if they don't want |
| 22:26.08 | Mr_Rabies | but i know i prefer them so i list in a variety of stack sizes |
| 22:26.15 | Mr_Rabies | i hate buying full stacks of stuff usually |
| 22:26.29 | ccox | some of them do, so it finally levels reasonably quick -- same with some other professions |
| 22:26.48 | Mr_Rabies | i don't list stuff that goes for less than about 5g per item in split stacks or less though |
| 22:26.50 | ccox | but trying to level tailoring and first aid at the same time - goes too quick to gather yourself, so you have to buy LOTS of cloth |
| 22:26.52 | Mr_Rabies | i just do full stacks usually |
| 22:26.53 | nevcairiel | Every time i want to say skill something and want to buy 100, i get annoyed by pages of singles i have to skip to finally find some large stacks, even if they cost slightly more in total, its just too annoying |
| 22:27.07 | Mr_Rabies | i'm actually hoarding all my cloth since it goes for like 1s over vendor price right now |
| 22:27.16 | Mr_Rabies | not even worth the listing price |
| 22:27.20 | Amarande | ccox: the solution to the tailoring conundrum is to level another character before the tailor-to-be |
| 22:27.25 | Amarande | and then hoard all the cloth THEY find, too |
| 22:27.33 | nevcairiel | Amarande: still not enough |
| 22:27.33 | Mr_Rabies | get auctionator, nevcairiel! :D |
| 22:27.43 | Mr_Rabies | i agree the default auction ui is miserable but that's not my fault |
| 22:27.47 | nevcairiel | i dont want to run auction addons on my non-bank-alt |
| 22:27.51 | ccox | Amarande: that's nice, but I don't want to waste a toon when leveling on a new server/faction |
| 22:27.56 | nevcairiel | which still go to the AH to buy something quickly |
| 22:28.03 | Amarande | and for some stages, like netherweave, save all the cloth you keep accumulating while trying to get the mounts from places like mgt/kara, if you haven't already |
| 22:28.12 | ccox | Amarande: if I already have another toon, I can have them farm low level instances |
| 22:28.36 | Amarande | nev: I feel the opposite way |
| 22:28.52 | Amarande | I find the auction addons at least as useful on my adventuring characters as on one who just hangs out in town |
| 22:29.17 | Amarande | especially when you're doing loads of dungeon runs or the like where you're actually looking at full inventory issues, so you know what stuff is actually worth keeping |
| 22:29.36 | nevcairiel | everything I find, i just mail to my bank alt, he can decide if it should be vendored or what not |
| 22:29.54 | nevcairiel | never had big issues to find a mailbox to simply dump everything |
| 22:30.27 | Amarande | yeah I'm thinking more about really remote places, like strath or blackrock |
| 22:30.49 | Amarande | MOLL-E just doesn't recharge fast enough to keep up with how often your inventory fills if you keep running places over and over :) |
| 22:31.04 | nevcairiel | nothing of value in those instances |
| 22:32.08 | Mr_Rabies | the darkmoon quest items are worth a ton on my realm |
| 22:32.18 | Mr_Rabies | i'm always the only one in the party with the item required to get them too |
| 22:32.26 | Mr_Rabies | so i roll poorly and win it every time one drops |
| 22:32.38 | Mr_Rabies | the cheapest one's like 100g i think |
| 22:32.41 | nevcairiel | need a long time to fill your inv up with those :d |
| 22:32.53 | Mr_Rabies | i got like, 15 last week |
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| 22:38.15 | VIad | http://i.imgur.com/zA3EtvF.jpg |
| 22:39.28 | Mr_Rabies | there is something amazingly fun about logging into your bank alt after a day or so of a mass auction listing |
| 22:39.43 | VIad | "Auction Expired" spam? |
| 22:40.00 | Mr_Rabies | more of the "auction sold" spam |
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| 22:42.44 | Semlar | Neffi: the scrollframe twitching only appears to affect the vertical axis |
| 22:42.59 | Semlar | it doesn't do this horizontally |
| 22:43.02 | ccox | or seeing 20 auctions sell while you're questing…. |
| 22:44.09 | Semlar | i thought about rotating the font string but the last time i tried to rotate a scrollframe it didn't end well |
| 22:44.56 | Neffi | I imagine it would exhibit similar behavior rotated |
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| 22:47.10 | Iriel | Rotation doesn't move the frame, only the visual projection of the frame, so it doesn't work well on scroll frames at all |
| 22:47.58 | Neffi | Semlar: A texture in a scrollframe, rotated is like hackception anyway |
| 22:49.27 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.47 | Semlar | it oooooonly does it vertically |
| 22:49.55 | Semlar | what the hell |
| 22:51.02 | Semlar | i don't even have any theories |
| 22:51.06 | Neffi | Why bother if the scrollframe method limits the size of the fontstring, and is (probably) more costly? |
| 22:51.28 | Semlar | because it would be much more customizable |
| 22:51.37 | Semlar | i would much prefer to use a fontstring |
| 22:52.22 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure it would also actually be less costly than all the things i have to do to the textures |
| 22:52.56 | Semlar | but that doesn't matter too much |
| 22:54.19 | Semlar | anyway, i could probably rotate the fontstring inside the scrollframe to cut it off how i want but i wouldn't be able to rotate it back and odds are it'll just have the same problem |
| 22:55.26 | Semlar | although i was thinking about draining the color horizontally from the name to represent health |
| 22:55.48 | Semlar | that was for a more minimalistic approach |
| 22:55.50 | Neffi | That's up to you, but I really like it how it is |
| 22:57.11 | Semlar | people in my guild have been using it and keep making me change stuff |
| 22:57.45 | Neffi | At gunpoint? |
| 22:57.48 | Semlar | yes |
| 22:57.59 | Semlar | i really need to make a settings interface for it |
| 23:00.38 | Neffi | sounds too mainstream |
| 23:00.49 | Semlar | could be.. |
| 23:01.11 | Neffi | *thick rimmed lensless glasses* |
| 23:01.50 | Stanzilla | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5DVhoel7AA |
| 23:05.08 | Jamash | Stanzilla: huh. |
| 23:11.13 | Neffi | doesn't look like rhcp |
| 23:11.41 | Neffi | If that's Flea on bass he really cleaned up |
| 23:12.12 | Neffi | Oh, reading comprehension fail |
| 23:13.08 | Dagmar | "Of tjay |
| 23:13.21 | Dagmar | can't type... laughing too hard |
| 23:13.41 | Dagmar | Jus the _possbility_ that could have been Flea. LOL |
| 23:14.04 | Neffi | yeah I was really confused |
| 23:14.31 | Stanzilla | Jamash: pretty cool huh? |
| 23:14.33 | ccox | lol |
| 23:17.49 | Jamash | Stanzilla: Yes, I think. |
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| 23:56.40 | Arrowmaster | http://www.epiccarnage.com/epic-wtf-man-hacks-up-new-lamborghini-and-turns-it-into-a-mustang/ |
| 23:56.48 | Arrowmaster | that poor car, what a sick and twisted man |
| 23:57.56 | Dagmar | Well, he'll shock the shit out of anyone expecting it to race like a mustang |
| 23:58.54 | Corrodias2 | it's just a machine. |
| 23:59.16 | Corrodias2 | not even a complex, biological machine like an animal |
