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| 00:03.49 | Kaylin | back |
| 00:22.03 | Jamash | Is there a better way to find out what spells morph based on spec than to generate links and then re-parse the spellID? |
| 00:29.15 | pompy | znf: www.facebook.com/paper |
| 00:29.16 | pompy | that |
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| 00:31.16 | Kraps | the hell is "battle.net agent went to sleep" |
| 00:31.50 | TC-Work | it is Le Tired |
| 00:32.03 | Kraps | why wont it le wake up |
| 00:32.30 | pompy | battle.net agent went to sleep |
| 00:32.43 | pompy | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=battle.net+agent+went+to+sleep |
| 00:32.53 | pompy | ~lart pompy |
| 00:32.53 | purl | executes killall -HUP pompy |
| 00:32.58 | pompy | ouch |
| 00:33.21 | Kraps | wow how did you do that pompy |
| 00:33.38 | pompy | magic |
| 00:41.38 | Esamynn|work | pompy: I'm confused... why did you self lart? |
| 00:42.59 | znf | because he deserves it! |
| 00:43.19 | pompy | Esamynn|work: because i commited a copy and paste fail |
| 00:45.39 | Esamynn|work | ahhh |
| 00:47.20 | Jamash | ooh, another flawless battle stone #jamashlootluck |
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| 01:27.52 | Gnarfoz | TC-Work: but will it fire ze missiles when it's done napping? :D |
| 01:28.04 | TC-Work | Gnarfoz: Depends if it's french |
| 01:28.31 | Gnarfoz | no idea where Kraps' bnet agent is from |
| 01:29.15 | Kraps | mine goes AHHHHHH MOTHERLAND |
| 01:29.41 | Gnarfoz | 'bout that time, chaps |
| 01:29.43 | Gnarfoz | wanders off |
| 01:34.44 | Jamash | I wish they'd just get rid of world pvp |
| 01:34.59 | Jamash | make all servers pve |
| 01:35.03 | Dagmar | OMG do you know how many hardcore PvPers would revolt? |
| 01:35.24 | Jamash | or offer free transfers off pvp servers |
| 01:35.45 | Jamash | or let you choose whether you want pvp or pve on login (with a 12 hour cooldown) |
| 01:36.02 | Jamash | I'm tired of being on a pvp server and transfers are highway robbery |
| 01:36.53 | Jamash | now if it was $25 for any number of characters on the source server to one destination server, maybe |
| 01:37.25 | Mr_Rabies | they're allegedly working on bulk transfer discount stuff but |
| 01:37.46 | Mr_Rabies | if you're starting at $25, i just don't see it being affordable to move a lot of chars no matter what |
| 01:37.51 | Jamash | yeah |
| 01:37.56 | Jamash | their prices are stupid |
| 01:38.03 | Mr_Rabies | they really need to drop the costs |
| 01:38.17 | Jamash | "give us more money because we designed our infrastructure poorly" |
| 01:38.20 | Mr_Rabies | it's high enough that people wait until their servers are -dead- to transfer, and instead they'll probably quit before then |
| 01:38.57 | Mr_Rabies | they should just make them free, but unavailable to servers with queues |
| 01:39.20 | Mr_Rabies | or only charge for those or something, i dunno |
| 01:40.22 | Jamash | like I say, a flat fee for any number from one source realm to one destination realm would suit me fine |
| 01:42.09 | Mr_Rabies | it's crazy how fast the combat log fills up |
| 01:42.19 | Mr_Rabies | my combat log file was 700MB |
| 01:44.27 | Mr_Rabies | argh i can't wait until we can kill garrosh, we're so close |
| 01:44.48 | Mr_Rabies | next week maybe, we're failing at the part where all the adds pop up |
| 01:45.05 | Esamynn|work | they need to charge something |
| 01:45.17 | Esamynn|work | or it would be too easy to escape after you'd been a bastard |
| 01:45.39 | Esamynn|work | honestly, I think they're headed in the direction of mostly removing the barriers between servers anyways |
| 01:46.04 | Esamynn|work | connected realms is just the current step in that process |
| 01:46.06 | Mr_Rabies | they could always just attach an account-wide unique identifier to people |
| 01:46.15 | Mr_Rabies | if that's really a big concern |
| 01:46.54 | Esamynn|work | free just causes headaches... it should cost something |
| 01:46.55 | Esamynn|work | imo |
| 01:47.28 | Esamynn|work | people are more likely to engage their brains when there is money involved |
| 01:47.33 | Mr_Rabies | i don't think escaping is much of an issue anymore though, most raids run master looter and everything else is either unimportant or on personal loot systems |
| 01:49.15 | Esamynn|work | as I said though, I suspect that it may not be that many more years before server transfers, except between pvp and pvp for instance, don't serve a real purpose anymore |
| 01:49.25 | Jamash | I don't mind it not being free, I mind it being per character |
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| 01:49.38 | Jamash | I have all slots full |
| 01:50.26 | Mr_Rabies | it's a serious problem that everyone's transferring to stormrage, area52, and zul'jin nowadays because their servers are dead, they need a way to help balance things out across the servers more |
| 01:50.36 | Mr_Rabies | people are just gonna quit instead in many cases |
| 01:50.46 | Mr_Rabies | it's not worth $25 for the hopes that the next server won't be dead in a year |
| 01:50.47 | Jamash | of course if there was cross-server mail all would be forgiven |
| 01:50.56 | Esamynn|work | isn't that the point of connected realms? |
| 01:50.59 | Jamash | I mostly care because of tradeskills |
| 01:51.11 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, but they're really slowly being implemented, Esamynn|Away |
| 01:51.27 | Esamynn|work | shrugs |
| 01:51.34 | Mr_Rabies | my realm's been merged with another but it's still pretty dead in most places |
| 01:51.39 | Mr_Rabies | and the AH is practically empty |
| 01:51.47 | Esamynn|work | your is not a problem I've ever had... then then I'm in a raiding guild that has been active since TBC |
| 01:52.02 | Mr_Rabies | i'm paying so much to level jewelcrafting it's insane |
| 01:52.38 | Esamynn|work | Jewelcrafting it, itself, insane |
| 01:53.07 | Mr_Rabies | i'm shifting it from my DK to my Monk |
| 01:53.14 | Mr_Rabies | and getting blacksmithing on my DK |
| 01:53.54 | Mr_Rabies | so i'll have one of everything and 2 alchemists |
| 01:54.07 | Mr_Rabies | since they're above and beyond the best profession since vanilla |
| 01:54.14 | Mr_Rabies | for making money |
| 01:54.21 | Mr_Rabies | compared to how cheap it is to level |
| 01:55.35 | Esamynn|work | what does one really need to spent a lot of money on these days? |
| 01:55.55 | Mr_Rabies | raiding ain't cheap |
| 01:56.13 | Mr_Rabies | gemming, enchanting, reforging, etc is still really expensive |
| 01:56.30 | Mr_Rabies | as well as repeatedly wiping on garrosh :X |
| 01:58.22 | Esamynn|work | even when I was raiding regularly, I didn't find the burden too bad |
| 01:58.35 | Esamynn|work | and I was supply my own enchants, repair bills... raw gems |
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| 02:00.55 | Esamynn|work | these days, I'm not in the progression raid, though I do some other stuff. I admit, I leech a little bit, but as an officer, I also do a reasonable amount of work to keep things running smoothly |
| 02:00.59 | Mr_Rabies | it's not unbearable, but it isn't cheap |
| 02:01.17 | Mr_Rabies | the guild covers repairs for now but we've got 3 10 man teams soooo |
| 02:01.36 | Esamynn|work | I've ALWAYS paid my own repairs |
| 02:01.48 | Mr_Rabies | only because one of our assistant GMs basically runs the server's economy are we able to support the guild |
| 02:02.11 | Esamynn|work | hah, my guild has a few ppl, that between them, pretty much run my server's economy |
| 02:02.32 | Mr_Rabies | we've got about 30k items on the AH on any given night, and he's probably easily half of those |
| 02:02.41 | Esamynn|work | rofl |
| 02:03.18 | Mr_Rabies | i wish my realm had more bots but they're on servers with good economies :( |
| 02:03.44 | Mr_Rabies | he also somehow can sort through the UX disaster that is TSM |
| 02:03.59 | Esamynn|work | TSM? |
| 02:04.52 | Mr_Rabies | tradeskillmaster |
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| 02:05.21 | Shadowed | ugh tsm |
| 02:05.39 | Shadowed | cant believe im responsible for that :| |
| 02:05.48 | Mr_Rabies | the undercore of TSM is so great |
| 02:05.56 | Mr_Rabies | but the UI design, yeesh :p |
| 02:05.57 | Shadowed | yea |
| 02:06.05 | Shadowed | I built the undercore |
| 02:06.06 | Shadowed | :> |
| 02:06.12 | Esamynn|work | now, I'll also admit that I made the better part of 100k buying greens and reselling the enchanting mats back in... LK |
| 02:06.18 | Esamynn|work | that has kept me going ever since |
| 02:06.31 | Shadowed | thats why its great! |
| 02:06.39 | Mr_Rabies | i think i have to have some form of high-functioning autism to actually use it though |
| 02:06.55 | Mr_Rabies | everytime i install it i go, okay, lemme figure this out |
| 02:06.56 | Esamynn|work | I think my characters have 60k between them these days |
| 02:07.05 | Mr_Rabies | then 15 minutes later i'm deleting it from the curse client |
| 02:07.10 | Esamynn|work | haha |
| 02:08.32 | Mr_Rabies | i mostly just use auctionator + TUJ |
| 02:08.54 | Dagmar | Just gonna say this. Damn Legos lawyers. Damn them to hell. |
| 02:09.08 | Mr_Rabies | i really wish i could set up auctionator to only use TUJ for price data :( |
| 02:09.22 | Mr_Rabies | LEGO lawyers, Dagmar? :O |
| 02:09.42 | Dagmar | http://www.dailydot.com/lifestyle/christy-mack-lego-bj-challenge-end/ |
| 02:11.37 | Mr_Rabies | i bet mega bloks doesn't care |
| 02:11.49 | Mr_Rabies | throw a couple bucks at them and she could probably get a licensed set |
| 02:12.29 | Mr_Rabies | everyone's got a license for cheap soft chinese plastic construction kits nowadays |
| 02:17.28 | pompy | http://www.dailydot.com/esports/blizzard-stream-awards-nominees-starcraft-hearthstone/ |
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| 02:18.50 | bluspacecow | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=289002931254543 |
| 02:20.35 | Dagmar | Foxes domesticate almost too easily |
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| 02:33.27 | Mr_Rabies | that was such a non-sequitor, Dagmar |
| 02:33.33 | Mr_Rabies | until i read the facebook link |
| 02:39.42 | Jamash | apparently the fox says eehk eehk eehk eehk eehk eehk ehhk |
| 02:40.33 | Jamash | I have a conjecture about why cats are funny |
| 02:41.13 | Jamash | we take an obligate carnivore bred for hunting rodents in human living and working areas, and put them in houses with nothing to hunt |
| 02:41.29 | Jamash | of course they start chasing laser pointers and cardboard boxes |
| 02:41.35 | Jamash | they're bored! |
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| 03:07.15 | Thunder_Child | Jamash: I'm bored but you don't see me doing that |
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| 03:24.59 | Jamash | you have a computer |
| 03:25.38 | Jamash | Thunder_Child: that's why cats are so fascinated with computers. They're waiting for you to get done so they can use it. |
| 03:27.06 | kd3 | eesh. http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/01/11-high-school-students-expelled-for-keylogging-teachers-computers/ |
| 03:28.13 | kd3 | I'm sure it's happened before this |
| 03:29.18 | Thunder_Child | Jamash: Except most of them dont wait. |
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| 03:47.35 | Semlar | welp |
| 03:47.47 | Semlar | two of my raid members were dc'd and can't get back in |
| 03:48.07 | Semlar | their loading screens are just stuck at 90% |
| 03:59.55 | Jamash | my sister and I just got booted |
| 04:00.10 | Jamash | blizzard is having some sort of problem |
| 04:01.21 | Jamash | http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/us.battle.net |
| 04:02.31 | kd3 | the site's been showing the maintenance message on-and-off for some time now |
| 04:03.31 | kd3 | https://twitter.com/BlizzardCS/status/429098768252682242 |
| 04:05.19 | Semlar | this raid is over |
| 04:05.38 | Jamash | https://twitter.com/G98604720/status/429091859701313536 |
| 04:13.38 | DJJeff | I need to google why wont curse client start with admin rights in windows 7 |
| 04:19.03 | DJJeff | actually is us.battle.net down for anyone? |
| 04:19.29 | DJJeff | oh |
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| 05:50.49 | Primer | shit's falling over again |
| 05:52.46 | bluspacecow | u mad? |
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| 06:26.46 | pompy | http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/yahoo-mail-resets-passwords-after-hackers-attack-2D12023698 |
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| 07:48.47 | zenzio | "Telling a programmer there's already a library to do X is like telling a songwriter there's already a song about love" - I wish I didn't recognize myself in this |
| 08:04.41 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: ever seen this? http://gyazo.com/e1e659aeb74e88314ef4c87ad49d0b58 |
| 08:10.50 | Shirik | zenzio: there's a difference |
| 08:11.02 | Shirik | in the song case, they're coming up with something new and unique |
| 08:11.17 | Shirik | in the programming case, they're coming up with exactly the same thing, except with 20 new bugs and less efficient |
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| 08:12.13 | zenzio | you're dull Shirik |
| 08:12.18 | Shirik | I have a goal for myself |
| 08:12.23 | Shirik | 1 new algorithm a year |
| 08:12.28 | Shirik | that's it |
| 08:12.50 | Shirik | everything else should just be piecing together existing algorithms |
| 08:12.56 | zenzio | also, "new and unique" describes maybe 0.5% of all pop music |
| 08:13.07 | Shirik | point taken |
| 08:13.11 | zenzio | not as bad in other genres |
| 08:13.12 | Shirik | but I don't listen to pop music |
| 08:13.26 | zenzio | I try not to |
| 08:13.39 | Shirik | I mean |
| 08:13.45 | Shirik | when Daft Punk is winning the grammies |
| 08:13.53 | Shirik | you KNOW there's something seriously wrong with music today |
| 08:14.30 | zenzio | not sure I follow |
| 08:15.13 | Shirik | their album was crap |
| 08:15.18 | Shirik | and yet it won album of the year |
| 08:16.29 | zenzio | ah |
| 08:16.35 | zenzio | I should listen to that sometime |
| 08:16.53 | Shirik | it has only one good song |
| 08:16.53 | zenzio | their Tron Legacy soundtrack was spectacular on the otherr hand |
| 08:16.53 | Shirik | Instant Crush |
| 08:16.53 | Shirik | and it's not even good because of them |
| 08:16.56 | Shirik | it's good because of Julian |
| 08:23.39 | Shirik | "Chrome does not support Java 7 on Mac OS X. Java 7 runs only on 64-bit browsers and Chrome is a 32-bit browser." |
| 08:23.47 | Shirik | There is not an ounce of this statement that makes any sense |
| 08:24.06 | zenzio | where's it from? |
| 08:24.10 | Shirik | from me going to java.com |
| 08:24.54 | nevcairiel | not knowing shit about java on mac, which from what i remember is a broken concept to begiin with, but why wouldnt it make sense to have a 32-bit browser which cant use a 64-bit plugin :d |
| 08:26.11 | Shirik | no |
| 08:26.15 | Shirik | (1) why is Chrome not 64 bit |
| 08:26.28 | Shirik | (2) why does Java 7 not run on 32-bit browsers |
| 08:26.59 | Shirik | (3) why do BOTH of these things support each other on Windows |
| 08:27.32 | zenzio | Shirik: "Why is X not 64-bit" is a question that could be said for so many programs |
| 08:27.45 | nevcairiel | there is no 64-bit chrome on windows, so the point is rather mood |
| 08:27.50 | Shirik | chrome is especially mind-boggling imo |
| 08:28.03 | Shirik | you generally think of google as the "hip technology company" |
| 08:28.10 | Shirik | and they don't have a 64-bit build? wat? |
| 08:29.28 | nevcairiel | they don't control the entire eco-system |
| 08:29.47 | nevcairiel | and especially on windows you end up with weirdo plugins which wouldn't work anymore |
| 08:30.12 | Shirik | is this where I get to say "they should have used lua"? |
| 08:30.40 | nevcairiel | they want to support npapi plugins, so no choice :p |
| 08:31.11 | Shirik | you just have to support the ABI in Lua |
| 08:31.23 | Shirik | like Wine |
| 08:31.35 | Shirik | you could call it Wahlua |
| 08:31.42 | nevcairiel | re-implementing the 32-bit ABI in lua, sounds like much fun |
| 08:31.46 | Shirik | :D |
| 08:31.54 | nevcairiel | because the 32-bit ABI is so sane |
| 08:31.56 | nevcairiel | oh wait |
| 08:31.58 | Shirik | actually I think it would be fun |
| 08:32.07 | Shirik | probably not practical |
| 08:32.12 | nevcairiel | i would r ather implement the 64-bit ABI, its at least saner |
| 08:33.28 | nevcairiel | anyhow i found the issue that tracks the chrome x64 progress, and many parts of it seem to be to make sure that extended data types don't open up security issues |
| 08:33.43 | Shirik | I guess that's fair |
| 08:33.56 | Shirik | probably easy to inject a buffer overflow because of naievely written code |
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| 09:32.23 | karl_w_w | http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/forum/topic/11551275079 holy moly that's a close one. hint: trump is the correct choice |
| 09:32.52 | nevcairiel | there is a correct choice here? |
| 09:33.15 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 09:33.43 | karl_w_w | nah tbh day 9 is pretty good as well, but I'm not into SC2 :P |
| 09:34.14 | Mr_Rabies | i can't stop laughing at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzQiQ1pVlN8 |
| 09:34.18 | Mr_Rabies | vinesauce best sauce |
| 09:34.45 | Mr_Rabies | (turn down your speakers) |
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| 09:36.01 | karl_w_w | what if I use headphones? turn them up? |
| 09:36.32 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 09:36.32 | Mr_Rabies | blast em |
| 09:37.57 | Stanzilla | Shirik: chrome x64 for windows is already working but release eng. is not yet ready to publish it |
| 09:57.59 | karl_w_w | http://www.twitch.tv/artosis/c/3619188 so much :o |
| 09:58.23 | Neffi | Mr_Rabies: wtf |
| 09:58.33 | Neffi | that's horrifying |
| 09:58.45 | Neffi | Imagine if like a 4 year old kid was playing and saw that shit |
| 09:58.49 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 09:59.03 | Neffi | It might ingrain some deep fear of computers |
| 09:59.03 | Mr_Rabies | the rom booted too, so technically it's possible |
| 09:59.14 | Mr_Rabies | i think it's an n64 rom |
| 09:59.31 | Mr_Rabies | they use a rom corrupter to break the game but generally keep it okay enough that it doesn't crash |
| 10:00.09 | Neffi | Today I learned "rom corrupter" is a thing |
| 10:00.32 | Mr_Rabies | probably my favorite rom corruption video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W545DP8CmWQ |
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| 11:05.27 | karl_w_w | sleeping on public transport: the hidden time-saving measure |
| 11:05.57 | rid_ | \o/ |
| 11:06.11 | rid_ | can't sleep while hundrets of ppl watching me :( |
| 11:06.51 | karl_w_w | hundreds? those are some big busses and/or trains |
| 11:07.01 | Workfoz | yeah I was typing something along those lines, too xD |
| 11:07.06 | Workfoz | 10s maybe |
| 11:07.18 | rid_ | karl_w_w: ppl leaving and joining the bus/tubes etc |
| 11:07.31 | Workfoz | well, you're asleep, you won't notice the difference |
| 11:07.32 | Workfoz | ^^ |
| 11:07.33 | nebula169 | i snore like a monster on planes, probably annoying hundreds :D |
| 11:07.35 | rid_ | :) |
| 11:07.50 | zenzio | I can never sleep on planes |
| 11:07.55 | Mr_Rabies | i can't sleep while sitting |
| 11:08.29 | karl_w_w | anyone can sleep while sitting, you just need to be motivated enough :P |
| 11:08.33 | Mr_Rabies | i just can't fall asleep unless i'm actually lying down |
| 11:08.40 | zenzio | only time I've slept on a plane was on my way home from Australia once, when I hadn't really had any sleep for >24 hours (don't recall the exact number)... fell asleep during take-off |
| 11:09.12 | Mr_Rabies | i was always up for basically entire lan parties because i could stay awake pretty much indefinitely if i had light and was sitting down |
| 11:09.30 | Mr_Rabies | now i lose my motor functions a lot sooner, but still can't sleep |
| 11:10.22 | Mr_Rabies | it takes me like an hour to go to sleep the first time, but if i wake up for a few minutes and go back to bed i'll be out in a minute, so maybe i could sleep while sitting then |
| 11:10.45 | nebula169 | given a big comfy chair, can totally fall asleep sitting up. in like my desk chair? the back isn't inclined so i fall forward and wake myself up |
| 11:10.55 | Mr_Rabies | i can nod off, but i can't sleep |
| 11:11.17 | Mr_Rabies | i'll wake myself up abruptly with a falling feeling in my inner ear |
| 11:11.22 | Mr_Rabies | even if i'm not actually falling |
| 11:20.30 | karl_w_w | http://www.tickld.com/cdn_image_content/291149.jpg <- i love this image |
| 11:21.44 | Mr_Rabies | mannn i was wondering why my hot cocoa tasted different |
| 11:22.08 | Mr_Rabies | apparently swiss miss uses corn syrup, sucralose, and ace k for sweetening now, not sugar :/ |
| 11:27.34 | Neffi | gross |
| 11:27.49 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, it tastes way too sweet |
| 11:27.53 | Mr_Rabies | the flavor balance is all off |
| 11:28.11 | Mr_Rabies | it used to be sweet, but had a bit of a salty bite to it due to the formulation |
| 11:28.17 | Mr_Rabies | not anymore :/ |
| 11:28.38 | Mr_Rabies | apparently it's been this way since late 2012 :/ |
| 11:30.40 | Mr_Rabies | this stuff's where it's at, anyway http://www.elmejornido.com/media/1861/qv_product_hotChocolateTablets19oz.jpg |
| 11:40.08 | Neffi | I wanna try making it the other way. Hot milk + shaving of chocolate. |
| 11:40.20 | Neffi | I hear it's really awesome when made that wa |
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| 12:48.05 | nibordoohe | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:48.31 | nibordoohe | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:50.40 | Neffi | Existence? Or that it's presently shown? |
| 12:50.58 | Neffi | Almost all the buttons in the default UI should exist from the start of the game |
| 12:51.06 | nibordoohe | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:51.10 | nibordoohe | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:51.25 | Neffi | if LDFRoleCheckPopupAcceptButton:IsVisible() then --[[do stuff]] end |
| 12:51.33 | Neffi | :IsShown() also |
| 12:51.36 | nibordoohe | (hugs) |
| 12:51.38 | nibordoohe | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:51.51 | Neffi | :IsShown() checks if it's *shown*, but not if all its parents are also shown (so it may not be visible still) |
| 12:52.32 | nibordoohe | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:52.43 | Neffi | :IsVisible() is almost definitely what you want |
| 12:52.55 | nibordoohe | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:52.57 | Neffi | Because I doubt the button is hidden when it's no longer used: its parent more likely is |
| 12:53.13 | nibordoohe | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:39.43 | Neffi | lol http://imgur.com/gallery/32bOdH6 |
| 13:50.16 | zenzio | lol... sadly it took me a little while to understand :( Friday-head |
| 13:53.23 | karl_w_w | http://www.buildwithchrome.com/ oh my god |
| 13:55.27 | karl_w_w | somebody built a tardis in perth |
| 13:56.11 | Neffi | Why can't awesome things like this happen to me? http://imgur.com/gallery/QLMm1O6 |
| 13:56.37 | Neffi | The majority of it is even rather good stuff |
| 13:59.18 | mikma | neffi: because this will happen to you: http://imgur.com/gallery/49ZuJY1 |
| 13:59.34 | Neffi | Oh god it's horrifying |
| 14:00.01 | Neffi | I don't really drink past my limit. I like enjoying 2-3 beers over a couple hours while relaxing. |
| 14:00.43 | mikma | neffi: that's nice imo |
| 14:01.12 | mikma | i myself enjoy couple of bacardi breezers after the sauna every now and then. mmm, pineapple |
| 14:01.47 | Neffi | heh. sounds nice |
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| 14:08.53 | karl_w_w | "We’re sorry but it looks like either your computer or web browser doesn’t support the advanced web technologies used in the build project." |
| 14:09.12 | karl_w_w | really google? what 'advanced web technologies' might they be? |
| 14:09.15 | Neffi | karl_w_w: What build project is that? Netscape? |
| 14:09.34 | karl_w_w | http://www.buildwithchrome.com/ |
| 14:09.53 | karl_w_w | the advanced web technology is google branding |
| 14:10.25 | Neffi | Yeah, that's overwhelmingly likely |
| 14:11.13 | Neffi | What happened to their commitment to open standards? Google seemed so... lol just kidding, Google is a big corporation, they don't care |
| 14:13.36 | Neffi | Wow. ESO's preorder bundle's chief benefit is "The characters you create can join any alliance, no matter which race you choose" |
| 14:13.43 | Neffi | I don't think I'm OK with this |
| 14:13.57 | zenzio | O_o |
| 14:14.00 | zenzio | that's stupid |
| 14:14.35 | Neffi | Instant grandfathering of early adopters into free pick of any racials. Completely bashing the lore in a critical way. And pretty much screwing over people who didn't fork over their money soon enough |
| 14:15.30 | Neffi | And it's already available for purchase, so if they change it now, they screw over people who already bought for that benefit |
| 14:15.54 | Neffi | I really hope this is not the first of a string of terrible decisions on their part |
| 14:21.52 | zenzio | it is discouraging to see something like this before release |
| 14:22.08 | zenzio | but I'll maintain a cautious optimism for it |
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| 14:28.10 | zenzio | ohai peppy, happy Friday |
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| 14:40.10 | pompy | Fisker: why did you hack Yahoo Mail!? |
| 14:46.55 | Dagmar | Neffi: THe key is that they get your money. As early as possible. Preferably before anyone can see that the game is a steaming pi;e. |
| 14:47.11 | Dagmar | Neffi: ...because after release, people are going to be angry. |
| 14:47.34 | Dagmar | Zenimax might not beat Funcom for Biggest Fail Ever, but they're going to be pushing a close second as best I can tell |
| 14:48.08 | Neffi | You seem convinced it's going to be *that* bad |
| 14:48.22 | Neffi | In the gameplay videos, discussions and all, it seems like a rather good game |
| 14:49.01 | Dagmar | Well, let's see... with an all-encompassing NDA in place, do you think they're going to give permission for anyone to say anything that's not a glowing review? |
| 14:49.28 | Neffi | And for that reason I've reserved optimism |
| 14:49.43 | Neffi | But what you're saying is on the extreme end |
| 14:49.56 | Dagmar | They spent over $220 million dollars on it. |
| 14:50.04 | Neffi | Heh. |
| 14:50.20 | Neffi | I take it'd you've played the beta |
| 14:50.23 | Dagmar | Yep. |
| 14:50.36 | Dagmar | Their freaking downloader has _issues_ |
| 14:50.38 | Neffi | Well I know how the NDA goes, so I'll just wait for my invite |
| 14:51.13 | Neffi | The guy that's working on the Mac port hangs out in #lua and said that I *will* get an invite if I signed up at some point, so that's nice |
| 14:51.21 | Dagmar | It's super fun to be gettinng "courtesy calls" from Comcast warning me that I'm about to go over quota because the 27Mb game had to be downloaded four times |
| 14:51.26 | Dagmar | er 27Gb |
| 14:51.50 | Neffi | Well that's unfortunate, but you can't fault the quality of the game because of issues in the downloader that they're not gonna bother working out just yet |
| 14:52.05 | Dagmar | I dunno man, the issue persisted through multiple rounds |
| 14:52.17 | Neffi | If you're adamant about calling it the biggest blunder, then I imagine the gameplay must be a thing of nightmares |
| 14:52.32 | Dagmar | They said it needed X amount of disk free. It really needed about x3 disk free, plus about 12gb or so more looks like |
| 14:53.14 | Dagmar | If it ran out of space--taking into account the odd phantom free space I mentioned--during the install, it would delete what it installed, _delete the 27Gb of downloaded data_ and start downloading it all over again. |
| 14:53.27 | Neffi | That's a pretty big fuckup, but it's not like getting the downloader working is an immediate priority |
| 14:53.33 | Dagmar | I kinda wanna slap someone for deleteing the downloaded data |
| 14:53.43 | Dagmar | Neffi: It'll do that in a _loop_ |
| 14:53.56 | Neffi | What I said still stands |
| 14:54.07 | Dagmar | Wasting a little bandwidth is one thing, but 27Gb is _not_ a little |
| 14:54.49 | Dagmar | "Changelog: Downloader no longer deletes install files for luls" |
| 14:55.12 | Neffi | Is that an actual quote? |
| 14:55.17 | Dagmar | No. I wish it were. |
| 14:55.20 | Neffi | lol |
| 14:56.06 | Dagmar | The cable companies have figured out that if they can't get away with extorting the other online video vendors, they can at least fuck their business model by implementing carefully selected data caps. |
| 14:56.21 | Dagmar | ...so, not that many places have unlimited cablemodem traffic anymore |
| 14:56.39 | Neffi | Yeah, I'm incredibly glad I still have uncapped data |
| 14:56.47 | Neffi | I hope FiOS keeps that policy |
| 14:57.04 | Dagmar | Fiber doesn't have much reason to implement caps or care |
| 14:57.05 | Brulath | doubtful, data caps help ensure their overprovisioning doesn't lead to congestion |
| 14:57.15 | Brulath | fibre has the same reasons as cable/dsl |
| 14:57.18 | Dagmar | Brulath: Ummm, that's not how networks work |
| 14:57.20 | Neffi | Dagmar: Money is a good reason |
| 14:57.45 | Dagmar | Overprovisioning is _going_ to cause congestion. |
| 14:57.56 | Dagmar | Rate-limiting is the cure for that. |
| 14:57.58 | Neffi | Brulath: Congestion is related to high peak usage, not how much you choose to download over the course of the month |
| 14:58.07 | Brulath | isn't that what i said |
| 14:58.15 | Neffi | If you're downloading obscene amounts, sure you might contribute to congestion when it's otherwise occuring anyway |
| 14:58.18 | Dagmar | Rate-limiting is not the same thing as a data cap. |
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| 14:59.11 | Dagmar | What they're doing is carefully settign the cap so that if you decide you don't want to keep paying them $70/month to watch 40 hours of TV a month, that you'll go over that cap. |
| 14:59.23 | Brulath | I don't follow. In Australia we have had data caps for years, it causes people to download less which means the ISPs don't have to spend as much on their backhaul links. |
| 14:59.54 | Brulath | some of them give you off-peak data so you set your downloads to run overnight, since they're not really used then |
| 15:00.01 | Dagmar | Brulath: You've also had some people acting like complete asshats over the idea that fiber might become available |
| 15:00.17 | Neffi | Brulath: Yeah, rate throttling during peak hours also helps with that. |
| 15:00.24 | Brulath | our electorate made the mistake of listening to rupert murdoch, as did the united kingdom apparently |
| 15:00.27 | Dagmar | Brulath: See that's an intelligent usage model. No cable company in america is doing that |
| 15:00.32 | Neffi | In the US we've had no caps for a long time (until recently) and never faced that issue |
| 15:00.55 | Neffi | Because the existence of caps there may seem to correlate to reduced network strain, doesn't mean there's any causal link |
| 15:00.59 | Dagmar | The cable companies realize they're facing competition from video providers who don't load the programming up with 50% commercials |
| 15:01.23 | Neffi | Dagmar: Well a few actually are |
| 15:01.40 | Dagmar | They're probably _not_ going to be able to win their attempt at being allowed to extort money, so they've got to go back to interfering another way |
| 15:02.04 | Neffi | When I moved to PA for a little while, the only cable provider there (total monopoly) offered a 250 GiB data cap, which was only in effect from like 4 PM to 9 PM. Outside of that timeframe, your data is limitless |
| 15:02.33 | Dagmar | Comcast is straight up 300Gb/month. That's a combination of both up and down. |
| 15:02.42 | Brulath | the american isp situation is a little weird. in australia the people who own the cables (telstra, or nbnco, or w/e) generally have to rent those to any third party at wholesale costs if they want to resell |
| 15:03.06 | Neffi | Their service was pretty bad and the hardware they gave you had *constant* problems where it seemed like too many connections would choke it and force it to drop connecton for a solid 5 minutes. But still, they at least tried to be fair |
| 15:03.08 | Dagmar | We used to have tat |
| 15:03.10 | Brulath | so we have hundreds of ISPs |
| 15:03.15 | Brulath | that work for everyone |
| 15:03.31 | Dagmar | Now we don't have it, and things are back to generally having two to three options at most. |
| 15:03.40 | Dagmar | Here you've got your "choice" of AT&T or Comcast. |
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| 15:03.58 | Neffi | Well in many places you don't even have that choice. It's Comcast or dialup. |
| 15:04.03 | Dagmar | Yep. |
| 15:04.05 | pompy | dialup! |
| 15:04.08 | pompy | ;_ |
| 15:04.22 | Brulath | slashdot told me once that it's legislated so that you can't have competition at all in some areas of the usa |
| 15:04.28 | Dagmar | Yes. |
| 15:04.45 | Dagmar | Companies can actually win the right to monopoly status |
| 15:04.46 | Neffi | Just before I moved back to NY, in Michigan we hit a rough spot and had to shop around to ditch Comcast. There wasn't even another provider to look at. We had no choice but to go dialup. And this was in like 2007. |
| 15:04.47 | Brulath | amusing, given everything else is "LET THE FREE MARKET DECIDE" |
| 15:05.06 | Dagmar | Brulath: By which they actually mean, let the lobbyist money decide |
| 15:08.30 | Fisker | hey Lopeppeppy |
| 15:08.34 | Fisker | pompy is mean :( |
| 15:08.58 | Brulath | ah we have that too, except it's just rupert murdoch and his media empire |
| 15:11.05 | Neffi | Rupert Murdoch is not the only evil man out there |
| 15:14.21 | Neffi | Roughly 1/3rd through a 40 min Youtube video when I decide to comment. "Sign in again to comment." Why the fuck would clicking that navigate me away from the video in progress? |
| 15:15.57 | Brulath | gets more ad views I imagine |
| 15:16.25 | Brulath | probably deters a few of the commenters too, which is likely useful |
| 15:16.50 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Fisker. |
| 15:17.00 | Fisker | pompy is spreading lies :( |
| 15:17.00 | Lopeppeppy | Pompy is mean, but Shirik is brutal. |
| 15:17.09 | Fisker | Saying that I hacked yahoo |
| 15:20.39 | Fisker | Shirik is nice |
| 15:20.41 | Fisker | I like Shirik |
| 15:20.54 | amro | you can be nice and brutal |
| 15:22.51 | pompy | http://programming-motherfucker.com/ |
| 15:26.09 | Neffi | I think Zed just ripped off the resrc.io list of free programming books |
| 15:26.23 | Neffi | -- so it wouldn't look like he just wanted to advertise his own Learn * The Hard Way books |
| 15:27.58 | Lopeppeppy | Now I shall whine - was just informed that we're not moving from the tiny cubicle farm for another year and a half. They told us 6 months when they crammed us in here... *sigh* |
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| 15:38.50 | karl_w_w | person A: "2 + 2 = 5", person B: "that's wrong", person A: "it's an opinion, opinions can't be wrong!" |
| 15:39.13 | Brulath | slap them |
| 15:39.20 | Dagmar | "It is my opinion, sir, that you are in fact, an idiot." |
| 15:39.47 | Dagmar | Lopeppeppy: Do they let you send emails in 6pt font? |
| 15:40.19 | Dagmar | ...cuz I don't want to disappoint you, but they're almost certainly lying through their teeth. |
| 15:40.21 | karl_w_w | opinions are like arseholes, you blame them when there's a foul stench |
| 15:40.27 | karl_w_w | wait, is that how that saying works? |
| 15:40.59 | Dagmar | There's no plan to move you out to a more reasonably-sized area. They're going to point at how much money they're saving by packing you in like chickens, and that'll be that. |
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| 15:43.57 | Lopeppeppy | They're telling the truth that we'll be here for at least another year, Dagmar. Our move-budget just got reallocated to Project Z instead of us, end of story. |
| 15:44.59 | amro | is Project Z a set of contingency plans for various zombie apocalypse scenarios? |
| 15:45.02 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: convince them to let you work from home |
| 15:45.03 | amro | cause that would be totally worth it |
| 15:45.16 | Ackis | working from home == working with no pants on == productivity increase |
| 15:45.41 | Lopeppeppy | The house is comically half-way done right now, torn out to bare walls, half of the elevator shaft put in... Useless pile of rubbish. They either finish it or sell it at a loss. |
| 15:46.29 | Lopeppeppy | It's just a bit of a downer to have the Great Grand Boss descend to give bad news on a Friday morning. :| |
| 15:47.09 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: resolve that with a liquid lunch |
| 15:48.37 | mitch0 | Lopeppeppy: all bad news are delivered on Fridays |
| 15:50.47 | Lopeppeppy | For serious, mitch0. |
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| 16:01.14 | Fisker | soothes Lopeppeppy |
| 16:11.27 | Semlar | is there any way to prevent my spell's targeting circles from getting cleared when i cast something |
| 16:13.19 | Semlar | like binding shot is almost impossible to use in combat because my shots are canceling it |
| 16:16.07 | Workfoz | don't cast your other shot until you're done casting the one with the targeting reticle? |
| 16:17.00 | Workfoz | don't think there's another way |
| 16:20.23 | Semlar | it's not being canceled by an active spell |
| 16:20.28 | Semlar | it's being canceled by my cloak proc |
| 16:20.41 | Semlar | and i see no way to stop that |
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| 16:20.49 | Workfoz | you said shots *shrug* |
| 16:20.58 | Semlar | well i thought it was my autoshot |
| 16:21.00 | Workfoz | in that case, no idea, probably nothing you can do |
| 16:21.28 | Semlar | i have a video of it and i'm clearly not pressing any other keys |
| 16:21.47 | Workfoz | haven't used Light's Hammer in a while, and didn't pay attention if it disappears when my cloak procs (I don't think it does) |
| 16:25.28 | Semlar | oh well |
| 16:25.36 | Semlar | i'd rather it didn't cancel it when i cast something else either |
| 16:28.07 | Stanzilla | pretty sure cloak procs dont cancel anything |
| 16:28.08 | Semlar | i might be able to prevent any other spells from being cast while the cursor is active |
| 16:28.32 | Semlar | i might regret that though |
| 16:31.09 | Semlar | it's not the cloak, i have no idea why it's getting canceled |
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| 16:34.53 | amro | jnwhiteh: dota? |
| 16:35.51 | Neffi | Semlar: sounds like you should submit a bug report |
| 16:36.05 | Neffi | In the meantime change the spell that's going on the cursor to !Spell so you can spam it |
| 16:36.24 | Semlar | i can already spam it |
| 16:36.28 | Semlar | clicking the button twice doesn't clear it |
| 16:36.56 | Neffi | Hmm. I thought it would. Because at least that how it worked when I set up all my mage macros |
| 16:37.16 | Semlar | it doesn't cancel any of my traps or binding shot |
| 16:37.22 | Neffi | Anyway, that behavior doesnt seem correct to me, so I'd consider it a bug |
| 16:38.10 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:38.20 | Neffi | Do you die in this video too? |
| 16:38.27 | Semlar | do you have to ask |
| 16:38.30 | Neffi | :D |
| 16:39.34 | Neffi | Yeah, I've never experienced the a spell with a casting circle cancel from the cursor of its own will, and I dont believe it's supposed to |
| 16:39.40 | Neffi | That would be extremely annoying |
| 16:40.02 | Semlar | i DEFINITELY am not pushing any other buttons and i can't reproduce it at a target dummy |
| 16:40.22 | Neffi | It might be a hidden spell in this encounter causing it |
| 16:40.37 | Neffi | Hidden spells cause all sorts of intemittent problems, like pulling rogues out of stealth randonly |
| 16:40.42 | Semlar | i can bring the targeting circle up while i'm casting cobra shot, pushing the button twice doesn't cancel it and the cloak proc doesn't seem to interfere |
| 16:41.03 | Neffi | Can you reproduce it in any other scenarios? |
| 16:41.14 | Semlar | i know it happens all the effing time on this fight |
| 16:41.21 | Semlar | i don't use it that much outside of it |
| 16:41.28 | Neffi | If not then it definitely seems like a bug related to this fight's hidden spells and mechanics in particular |
| 16:41.34 | Neffi | Possibly a hidden spell has the wrong flag set |
| 16:42.08 | Semlar | we also had a slime just chill for about 30 seconds while we stood around doing nothing |
| 16:42.18 | Neffi | I dunno wat that meenz |
| 16:42.19 | Semlar | so that was nice |
| 16:42.30 | Semlar | immerseus won't come back up while slimes are out |
| 16:42.40 | Semlar | well, he will just not for a very long time |
| 16:42.47 | Neffi | I can't remember the last PvE content I did tbh |
| 16:43.03 | Neffi | Aside from soloing old content, or random heroics in Cata |
| 16:43.59 | Semlar | we hit the enrage timer because of it |
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| 16:44.42 | Semlar | oh and we had the cancel the raid after the next fight because the servers went down |
| 16:44.52 | Semlar | so all in all not a great night |
| 16:45.04 | Neffi | :| |
| 16:52.27 | Neffi | Semlar: I think I'm totally burned out of WoW |
| 16:52.29 | Neffi | :( |
| 16:52.34 | Semlar | good |
| 16:52.52 | Neffi | I guess it's good.... |
| 16:53.32 | Semlar | i'm going to write an addon that outputs how much time i spent out of range of any healers during the last fight |
| 16:54.12 | Semlar | i'm thinking it's going to be up in the 90-100% range |
| 16:54.18 | Neffi | This might be the first step in prevent yourself from dying so much |
| 16:54.26 | Semlar | impossible |
| 16:54.48 | Semlar | i came really, really close to dying at the start of the video |
| 16:55.19 | Semlar | about 1:45 in |
| 16:56.02 | Semlar | i'm convinced my healers are trying to avoid me |
| 16:56.24 | Neffi | It's like a talent with you |
| 16:56.35 | Semlar | it's uncanny isn't it |
| 16:57.01 | Neffi | truly |
| 16:58.03 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:58.23 | Semlar | i take less damage than anyone else |
| 16:58.45 | Neffi | Wait why are you at the bottom? |
| 16:58.50 | Neffi | I think your log is broken ;) |
| 16:59.20 | Semlar | i should clearly be at the top |
| 16:59.27 | Semlar | above the tanks |
| 17:02.10 | Dagmar | Depends on how quick you get murdered. |
| 17:02.22 | Semlar | usually agonizingly slow |
| 17:02.34 | Dagmar | I mean, if you just run straight into the fire and die without anyone healing you, your damage taken will be pretty low. :) |
| 17:03.22 | Semlar | i literally die because of being out of range of my healers |
| 17:03.38 | Semlar | and normally i would say it's my fault |
| 17:03.48 | Semlar | but i'm just doing the fight |
| 17:05.46 | Semlar | i blame neffi |
| 17:06.07 | Neffi | Well it really is all my fault |
| 17:06.12 | Semlar | it usually is |
| 17:06.12 | Neffi | I pay off your healers to let you die |
| 17:06.19 | Semlar | dammit neffi |
| 17:06.26 | Semlar | they would have done it for free |
| 17:06.46 | Neffi | Really? Now I know |
| 17:07.56 | Neffi | This may be an unhealthy habit |
| 17:08.03 | Semlar | dying? |
| 17:08.18 | Neffi | "Bah I'm burned out of WoW" "Let's find another game to play" "Wait all other MMOs suck" "fuck" *starts up WoW* |
| 17:08.26 | Semlar | no neffi |
| 17:09.02 | Neffi | I'm bored and taken care of all my daily responsibilities early. I need something to fill the time >_> |
| 17:09.21 | Semlar | i'm trying to decide how my "point to all of my healers" addon should be displayed |
| 17:10.46 | Semlar | i was thinking i could have some arrows arranged in a circle around the center of the screen |
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| 17:12.22 | karl_w_w | you killed them! but i thought you liked them. they liked you. |
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| 17:20.54 | Jamash | sup peoples |
| 17:23.09 | Neffi | chillen like a villain |
| 17:24.57 | karl_w_w | those words don't sound the same Neffi :P |
| 17:25.24 | Semlar | yes they do |
| 17:26.57 | Neffi | karl_w_w: "chill-in" and "vill-in". learn murrican |
| 17:27.13 | karl_w_w | vill-an |
| 17:29.31 | Neffi | How is that different? |
| 17:29.34 | Shirik | what did I do Lopeppeppy :( |
| 17:33.30 | Lopeppeppy | You weren't looking, Shirik. |
| 17:44.26 | Neffi | Is there any way to run a keybinding command (like what you pass to SetBinding), eg SITORSTAND |
| 17:45.28 | Gnarfoz | yep, press a key |
| 17:45.34 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 17:48.11 | Neffi | I was trying to see if it's possible to perform CAMERAORSELECTORMOVESTART somehow in a secure way, so to make a "cast at mouse" type macro for spells like Blizzard |
| 17:48.25 | Stanzilla | no |
| 17:50.12 | Gnarfoz | nope, that'd be all over the wiki if it was possible :| |
| 17:50.31 | Neffi | It seems it is possible if you're willing to press the button twice |
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| 17:57.07 | A-KO^^ | howdy |
| 17:57.12 | karl_w_w | Neffi, one sounds like the word in, one sounds like un |
| 17:57.29 | karl_w_w | with a shorter u |
| 17:57.43 | karl_w_w | softer u? |
| 17:57.50 | Semlar | villin |
| 17:57.59 | karl_w_w | i dont know, im not good at describing sounds |
| 18:03.42 | Jamash | chilling like a villiang |
| 18:04.09 | Jamash | but pronounced as "chillin' like a villin' |
| 18:04.12 | Jamash | " |
| 18:04.47 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2XiiDYflus i miss king of the hill |
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| 18:22.05 | Shirik | karl_w_w: you're a dota player, right? |
| 18:22.36 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 18:22.50 | Shirik | I found something that lol has that dota 2 doesn't have! |
| 18:23.00 | Shirik | last night: http://gyazo.com/e1e659aeb74e88314ef4c87ad49d0b58 |
| 18:23.35 | karl_w_w | what am i looking at |
| 18:23.47 | Shirik | where it normally says "victory" or "defeat" |
| 18:23.50 | Shirik | it says "loss prevented" |
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| 18:24.03 | karl_w_w | o.O |
| 18:24.16 | Shirik | apparently when their servers are completely jacked up, they turn off losses |
| 18:24.18 | karl_w_w | isn't that just a win? :P |
| 18:24.24 | karl_w_w | ah |
| 18:24.34 | Shirik | I was very confused when this popped up |
| 18:24.41 | karl_w_w | i've never seen that be an issue in dota 2 :P |
| 18:24.47 | Shirik | :P |
| 18:36.30 | Jamash | Shirik: it means they caught someone shoplifting |
| 18:37.29 | Dagmar | ^ probably nsfw |
| 18:37.37 | Dagmar | wrong channel, but funny |
| 18:38.27 | Jamash | Dagmar: that's the third time this week |
| 18:38.32 | Jamash | how many channels are you in? |
| 18:38.37 | Dagmar | Four. |
| 18:38.50 | Dagmar | 99% of the time it's because I'm thinking "holy shit gotta say something" |
| 18:38.50 | Jamash | better window management practices imo |
| 18:39.34 | Dagmar | What I need is a much larger screen at work |
| 18:39.39 | Jamash | moar monitors |
| 18:39.58 | Dagmar | I'm working on that actually. |
| 18:41.12 | Dagmar | Ususally I just go recycle some vertical-capable monitors other people have replaced. |
| 18:41.46 | Dagmar | This office recently had some recycling done, and our vendors kind of stare off into space if you say "can it be vertical?" |
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| 18:42.15 | Dagmar | ...cuz at the office I generally do just run with a pair of portrait monitors |
| 18:43.07 | Gnarfoz | grrr could the battle.net agent randomly updating, causing a UAC prompt be fixed some day? thaaanks :C |
| 18:43.36 | Dagmar | Can Battle.Net upgrade the OS away from Vista? |
| 18:43.50 | Gnarfoz | I dunno, ask someone on Vista |
| 18:44.03 | Gnarfoz | ...if there are any left that use battle.net ;P |
| 18:44.12 | Dagmar | Ah... You can do what I did. Just reach in there and slap read-write permissions on the whole damn directory for your user account. |
| 18:44.52 | Gnarfoz | maybe they should stop installing their programs where they don't belong instead :D |
| 18:44.55 | Dagmar | This is why I was assuming you were maybe using Vista |
| 18:45.06 | Gnarfoz | "this" being what |
| 18:45.23 | Dagmar | Random UAC dialogs |
| 18:45.26 | Dagmar | I don't get 'em anymore |
| 18:45.27 | Gnarfoz | they're not random |
| 18:45.40 | Gnarfoz | battle.net agent updating itself causing them is random |
| 18:46.00 | Dagmar | Maybe while they're refactoring hte graphics and so on for the expansion they'll abstract the directory locations to handle a more modern layout |
| 18:46.07 | Gnarfoz | they're to be expected and fine, it's the "OK, GONNA UPDATE" mentality :D |
| 18:46.23 | Dagmar | I ain't exactly happy about user-generated data and program data being in the same context, personally. |
| 18:46.25 | Gnarfoz | maybe? but battle.net agent does not relate to any expansions |
| 18:47.21 | Gnarfoz | I totally dig getting my "all other murlocs have +1 attack" card with no murlocs on the board |
| 18:47.24 | Gnarfoz | :| |
| 18:56.07 | Unkle | Draw more Murlocs |
| 18:57.12 | Gnarfoz | draw me like one of your french murlocs |
| 18:58.02 | TC-Work | ~lart Gnarfoz |
| 18:58.02 | purl | flings poo at Gnarfoz |
| 18:58.13 | Gnarfoz | ~parry |
| 18:58.19 | Gnarfoz | :< |
| 18:58.22 | Gnarfoz | ~whaleparry |
| 18:58.31 | TC-Work | Good luck parrying poo anyway |
| 18:58.32 | Gnarfoz | purl is ill |
| 18:58.35 | TC-Work | and you need a target |
| 18:58.38 | Unkle | French Murloc: has a beret, smokes a terrible cigarillo, and is armed with a baguette. Battle Cry: All other merlons get -1 attack |
| 18:58.41 | TC-Work | ~whaleparry x |
| 18:58.42 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry x's attacks. |
| 19:00.45 | Jamash | Unkle: I don't see what reducing the attack of parapet crenelations has to do with french fishmans. |
| 19:01.03 | Unkle | DAMN YOU AUTOCORRECT! |
| 19:06.00 | TC-Work | Jamash: of other parapet crenelations, not all. |
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| 19:39.24 | kd3 | that's new... "The Zandalari are back, and they brought Dinomancers! Dinomancers!" |
| 19:41.21 | nevcairiel | isnt that like ... 5.2? |
| 19:44.17 | Neffi | Does anyone have tips on solo leveling a guild with a level 90? |
| 19:44.32 | Neffi | I only need like 7 million more xp |
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| 19:52.48 | kd3 | quests |
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| 19:59.54 | Semlar | any idea why this does nothing http://pastebin.com/P7gaLQY7 |
| 20:00.21 | Semlar | i'm trying to make a button click another button |
| 20:01.27 | Neffi | Looks fine to me |
| 20:01.48 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:02.18 | Unkle | what button are you trying to click? MovePad buttons? |
| 20:02.27 | Semlar | an action button |
| 20:02.37 | Semlar | like ActionButton1 |
| 20:02.54 | Unkle | Yeah, I just loaded the page. It looks fine. |
| 20:04.47 | Semlar | it appears to require a parent |
| 20:04.55 | Semlar | maybe? |
| 20:04.57 | Semlar | no |
| 20:05.35 | Unkle | You could just use type macro text and /click NameOfButton ? |
| 20:05.59 | Semlar | i think it's because i called it 'f' |
| 20:06.24 | Semlar | it works if i call it ClickyTest |
| 20:06.43 | Semlar | even though printing f:GetAttribute() worked fine, it was clearly referencing the same frame |
| 20:07.48 | Semlar | well, it works if it's a macro at any rate |
| 20:08.01 | Semlar | i gave up trying to get the "click" type to work |
| 20:09.31 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:09.37 | Neffi | It may require a name? |
| 20:09.42 | Semlar | it has a name! |
| 20:09.48 | Semlar | well, it has a global |
| 20:09.48 | Neffi | The pastebin one doesn't |
| 20:09.53 | Neffi | That's not a name |
| 20:10.02 | Semlar | what exactly is the difference |
| 20:10.29 | Semlar | i thought the name was just the global reference |
| 20:11.05 | Semlar | also it still doesn't work with the click type |
| 20:11.22 | Semlar | so i must be missing something with that |
| 20:13.18 | Amarande | bleh. MMO crafting is a seductive, day-eating poison. :| |
| 20:13.39 | Amarande | "sure I have enough mats to craft this set!" "oh no you don't" "sure I have enough mats now!" "thiiiiiiiiink again ...." |
| 20:14.53 | Maldivia | some MMO are better at it than others though |
| 20:15.02 | Neffi | hahaha http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21488438/android-app-stops-and-crashes-when-using-a-long-nested-loop |
| 20:15.15 | Amarande | Maldivia: and some professions |
| 20:15.45 | Amarande | on the one hand you have something like WoW blacksmithing, then you move up to things like LOTRO tailoring, and then at the extreme end is fun like WoW engineering and LOTRO cooking :) |
| 20:16.59 | Dagmar | Seriously? |
| 20:17.07 | Dagmar | Neffi: How is no one calling this dipshit out |
| 20:17.32 | Dagmar | The numbnutz is failing at a brute force attack |
| 20:18.57 | Dagmar | "it will be put in a string named 'pass'" |
| 20:19.23 | Dagmar | What he needs is about ten minutes of pillow therapy. |
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| 20:20.01 | Dagmar | He should lie down somewhere comfortable, put a pillow on his face, and then have someone press down on it for about ten minutes. All problems solved. |
| 20:20.42 | Unkle | I miss the beginnings of all the interesting rants. |
| 20:20.55 | Dagmar | No you didn't. Look at the URL Neffi posted |
| 20:22.55 | Unkle | "I've run into this problem before. Be sure to check your services.msc for "trolololo manager." Once you enable that, this function should work correctly." lulz |
| 20:24.12 | Semlar | i got it working neffi |
| 20:24.29 | Semlar | but partly only because i use a modifier key to cast the spell |
| 20:24.33 | Neffi | Semlar: time to break it? |
| 20:24.48 | Semlar | it could be better |
| 20:24.52 | Neffi | So modifier to cast the spell, nomod to click it? |
| 20:25.21 | Semlar | i just rebind the key on modifier state change |
| 20:25.30 | Semlar | and clear it onclick |
| 20:26.04 | Semlar | so i hold shift, it binds my spell back, i hit the key to cast the spell |
| 20:26.28 | Semlar | it clears the override bindings so now when i hit the key again it clicks the mouse button |
| 20:27.06 | Semlar | i release shift and it goes back to my spell |
| 20:28.38 | Unkle | Installer here running new T1 lines and the IAD for analog phone support ... and he forgot the mounting brackets so he was just going to sit the IAD on top of the router and call it good. ... um, pal, it's a 5' drop to the concrete floor. I want that puppy secured. |
| 20:28.48 | Neffi | I figured there'd be a better way |
| 20:29.18 | Semlar | shift -> binds frost trap to the button -> click casts frost trap and clears bindings -> click again fires a mouse click -> releasing shift or pressing shift again rebinds frost trap |
| 20:30.44 | Semlar | when i say click i mean pushing 7 or whatever |
| 20:31.06 | Semlar | frost trap is bound to shift+7 |
| 20:31.32 | Neffi | 7? |
| 20:31.39 | Neffi | That's quite a reach |
| 20:31.48 | Semlar | i have big hands |
| 20:32.16 | Neffi | yeah so do I |
| 20:32.26 | Semlar | i have frost trap bound to shift 7 and snake trap bound to shift 8 and i use both of those pretty consistently |
| 20:32.28 | Neffi | I just dont think you should have to raise them off WASD to hit anything |
| 20:32.54 | Amarande | Unkle: Yeah, when he doesn't secure it and it hits the floor, his future is also a pretty concrete one :) |
| 20:33.30 | Semlar | i can put my pinky on shift, my ring finger on w and my index finger on 7 |
| 20:34.09 | Semlar | that's beside the point |
| 20:34.13 | Neffi | Ah, I keept my middle finger on W always, so I can keep my ring on A for strafing and let the pinky hit the modifiers |
| 20:34.15 | Semlar | the point is i got it working |
| 20:34.28 | Neffi | Ah yes, that was the point. |
| 20:34.33 | Neffi | gives Semlar a cookie. |
| 20:34.44 | Semlar | this better not be poisoned again |
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| 20:34.57 | Neffi | gives Semlar a different cookie. |
| 20:35.09 | Semlar | starts foaming at the mouth |
| 20:35.18 | Neffi | Oh wait I mixed up the batches |
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| 20:36.43 | Amarande | Neffi, just give him the barrow-brie and end his suffering, LOL |
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| 21:15.20 | mikma | cogwheel: yo |
| 21:16.54 | mikma | cogwheel: be a scarlet knight, go and rescue josma from the 0 base grinder. she put a block down in accident and can't get out |
| 21:28.28 | mikma | cogwheel: nvm, relogged and was able to destroy the block for some reason |
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| 22:57.02 | Mr_Rabies | argh |
| 22:57.08 | Mr_Rabies | more ddoses it seems |
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| 23:17.01 | kd3|hate`net | sure..."Hey, we hear your complaints about the fact that we opened on Tuesday and then sent everyone home at the same time at the rest of the city. We're totally going to make changes for next time." |
| 23:18.24 | kd3 | s/at the rest/as the rest/ |
| 23:41.36 | kd3 | oh blah. my realm's finally on the list to get merged |
| 23:46.39 | Ressy | Medivh's on the list finally? |
| 23:46.48 | kd3 | 2/20 probably |
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| 23:48.15 | Ressy | Exodar & Medivh.. ugh... |
| 23:48.25 | Ressy | I know ppl on exodar. :( |
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