| 00:01.29 | Semlar-Laptop | i got an ssd |
| 00:05.00 | Semlar-Laptop | neffiiiii |
| 00:07.09 | Neffi | i'm gelatinous |
| 00:07.26 | Neffi | what kind? |
| 00:09.04 | Neffi | 840 Pro? Evo? Those numbers look good |
| 00:10.40 | Semlar-Laptop | it's an 840 evo |
| 00:10.48 | Semlar-Laptop | with RAPID enabled |
| 00:11.04 | Semlar-Laptop | it was like 540MB/s without |
| 00:12.28 | Neffi | Wow, that's pretty disingenuous |
| 00:13.12 | Neffi | RAPID might work better than the OS's cache, so that's cool and all, but it's kind of lying about your speed |
| 00:13.25 | Semlar-Laptop | is it |
| 00:13.32 | Neffi | I dont understand why they do that because their SSDs are already the best in the industry |
| 00:13.48 | Neffi | I'm very gelatinous |
| 00:14.01 | Semlar-Laptop | are you a jelly fish |
| 00:14.19 | Neffi | I'm verging on full jelly fish metamorphosis |
| 00:15.06 | Neffi | The comparison to your HDD is funny |
| 00:15.11 | Semlar-Laptop | that hard drive is terrible |
| 00:15.42 | Neffi | I figured maybe the software was being.. misleading. Because that's pretty damn bad for an HDD |
| 00:17.14 | Neffi | I think my 5400 RPM WD blue laptop drive gets better speeds than that. And it's a measly 240 GB, so it's not pushing huge aerial density |
| 00:18.25 | Semlar-Laptop | my newer 3tb drive is more like 110MB/s |
| 00:19.17 | Neffi | that seems about right for a good HDD |
| 00:20.39 | Dagmar | Poking around I see now that switching to SATA was necessary because PATA drives started actually pushing the limitations of the bus |
| 00:20.54 | Dagmar | ...but <20Mb/s? |
| 00:20.57 | Dagmar | Something aint' rigth there. |
| 00:21.14 | Dagmar | That's some performance from ten years ago |
| 00:21.24 | Semlar-Laptop | oh it's older than that |
| 00:21.28 | Dagmar | Oh! |
| 00:21.31 | Neffi | hah |
| 00:21.33 | Semlar-Laptop | it's 120gb |
| 00:21.34 | Dagmar | Well in that case it's probably fine. :) |
| 00:22.05 | Semlar-Laptop | it wasn't that slow when it was new |
| 00:22.06 | Dagmar | I relegated everything that couldn't beat 20 to my arrays |
| 00:23.01 | Semlar-Laptop | i have 2 3TB drives that i should move my old data onto and get rid of the rest of the drives in there |
| 00:26.26 | Amarande | yeah, I've noticed that most freenode channels tend to be very much samsung fanboys when it comes to ssds heh |
| 00:26.43 | Amarande | mind you, I might have considered a samsung, but when I got my SSD, I needed a new main drive *right then* |
| 00:26.57 | Dagmar | Mention to some that you've been looking into Chinese SDcard SATA adapters sometime |
| 00:27.00 | Dagmar | Watch heads asplode |
| 00:27.14 | Amarande | and intel 530 is quite decent (which is a good thing since that's the only thing best buy *HAD* above 120GB) |
| 00:27.32 | Dagmar | I have one. It cost $35. Takes two SDcards striped. |
| 00:27.46 | Dagmar | MUCH cheaper |
| 00:28.21 | Dagmar | It's not mega fast, but then the service firewall doesn't need super-fast disk. It just needs to not make bloody noises or heat |
| 00:28.29 | Neffi | Amarande: that's because Samsung's SSDs are objectively the best right now. It's not being a fanboy. |
| 00:30.31 | Amarande | hm, I need to figure out where I'm going to store these crucial sticks |
| 00:30.49 | Amarande | they're too big to fit in the packaging from the corsair sticks, and I'm not sure I still actually have the original package from the crucial sticks anymore |
| 00:31.03 | Dagmar | Poke around alibaba a little. |
| 00:31.17 | Dagmar | Someone's bound to make volatile ssd adapters for old RAM eventually |
| 00:31.18 | Neffi | Amarande: Open up a drawer, toss them in, close it? |
| 00:31.39 | Dagmar | Also, bookmarks. |
| 00:32.41 | Amarande | heh |
| 00:32.43 | Amarande | I'd rather not zot them |
| 00:32.53 | Amarande | I might actually have use for them in some other machine eventually I suppose |
| 00:33.00 | Neffi | Dagmar: but that would damage the pages of the book! |
| 00:33.09 | Amarande | I had to swap them out because LOTRO forced me to go back to 16GB of RAM |
| 00:33.11 | Dagmar | Time will do that anyway |
| 00:34.43 | Amarande | ... and really, who knows how long before WoW or TOR or whatnot will force us to have 16GB, too :S |
| 00:35.23 | Dagmar | Force? |
| 00:35.41 | Dagmar | You can *always* use moar rams. |
| 00:36.35 | Dagmar | When I first went to 16Gb on a davel server I would tease my friends by doing a `find /usr/src/linux -exec md5um {}\;` prior to compiling a kernel |
| 00:36.37 | Amarande | Dagmar: apparently, what I learned (after doing a malware scan and wondering if chrome was devouring it all with flash, etc.) |
| 00:36.56 | Amarande | is that LOTRO has some sort of *very* aggressive pre-allocation algorithm |
| 00:37.07 | Dagmar | The server would do it's "CACHE ALL TEH THINGS" act, and the compile would scream |
| 00:37.32 | Dagmar | Amarande: Yes, because pre-caching is awesomesauce |
| 00:37.36 | Amarande | as in, it'll allocate RAM in anticipation of needing it later to load something, as I understand it |
| 00:37.58 | Amarande | Dagmar: the problem is there's no controls for it at all, and it will gladly within an hour or two escalate to CoD Ghosts levels of RAM usage whether you like it or not |
| 00:38.19 | Dagmar | Were you using it for something else at the time? |
| 00:38.32 | Dagmar | I dont' want to see my machines reporting a lot of RAM free |
| 00:38.44 | Amarande | the only other things I had running were IRC, Chrome, and the chess program Arena (which has a free-memory monitor) |
| 00:39.21 | Amarande | even with the chess analysis engine turned off, I would regularly be hearing the thrashing of swap and noticing that the amount of free RAM was a gig or less |
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| 00:39.38 | Dagmar | Okay if it was going into swap something was amiss there |
| 00:39.56 | Amarande | (I suppose I could have avoided thrashing by putting the swap on the SSD, but I actually have it on the HDD specifically to tell me "hey, dude, your RAM usage is getting to that point, you might wanna upgrade") |
| 00:41.04 | Dagmar | Heh. I had some full-height SCSI drives that were good for that |
| 00:41.14 | Dagmar | I didn't think anything of the sounds until some girl was sleeping over |
| 00:41.37 | Dagmar | At 4:22am I get woken up because she thinks something horrible has snuck into the apartment |
| 00:42.07 | Dagmar | ...cuz about 20 assorted drives are all updating locatedb at once, and it sounds like a pissed off badger. |
| 00:42.31 | Amarande | heh |
| 00:42.45 | Amarande | in my case, I put the swap on the HDD specifically so that I would actually notice if there was significant swap activity, due to the performance hit |
| 00:42.50 | Amarande | and thus knew it was time to go back to 16GB |
| 00:42.57 | Amarande | (which involved a downgrade in RAM speed) |
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| 00:45.05 | Dagmar | The only time I downgrade RAM is if I get a new motherboard in and the RAM didn't come in time |
| 00:45.43 | Dagmar | As long as I can do unboxing to powerup in under 30 minutes, I'm happy |
| 00:46.37 | Amarande | Heh, here it's mostly a matter of money :| |
| 00:46.46 | Amarande | When I bought all the RAM I own presently, it was back when DDR3 was cheap |
| 00:47.29 | Amarande | *however*, I have had four sticks handy of the Corsair XMS3 (that I just swapped back in) |
| 00:47.39 | Amarande | but only two sticks of the Crucial Ballistix |
| 00:47.55 | Amarande | on top of that, this motherboard only allows you to use one pair of DIMMs at DDR3-1866 |
| 00:48.09 | Amarande | so basically, if I wanted to go to 16GB and not downgrade from 1866 to 1333, I'd have had to buy a new 2x8 kit |
| 00:48.15 | Amarande | and I'm not paying 150 bucks for yet more RAM :| |
| 00:48.37 | Amarande | and apparently, predictions are it's not coming back down, ever |
| 00:49.18 | Amarande | pretty much they've decided to just move into the typical "endgame mode" pricing for DDR3, like how DDR1 and DDR2 got way more expensive at the end of their lives, since DDR4 is coming out within the year or so |
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| 00:52.40 | Amarande | heh. I just realised the packaging photo on Corsair XMS3 memory is of a motherboard that has a PATA connector |
| 00:52.46 | Amarande | how quaint :) |
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| 01:00.42 | Neffi | hey semlar, wanna trade places wif me? |
| 01:00.59 | Neffi | I'll hang out in Florida and you can come shovel the ~12" of snow out of my huge driveway |
| 01:05.01 | Primer | it's 75°F here |
| 01:05.07 | Primer | We have the AC on |
| 01:05.56 | Neffi | everyone wants to make me jelly today |
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| 01:07.24 | Turtle2 | can anyone help me with an Addon called ReputationBars? need to name the table so i can hide it onEvent with kgPanels |
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| 01:23.31 | Amarande | GAH |
| 01:23.42 | Amarande | I really need to figure out why my PSU fan buzzes like a horde of angry bees when it spins up |
| 01:24.54 | Shirik | did you check it for bees? |
| 01:25.33 | Seerah | Amarande: mine does that occasionally, too. Then quiets down after a few minutes |
| 01:26.25 | Seerah | (or maybe it's my case fan... I'm not sure. It's just loud and annoying when I turn on the computer than goes away /shrug) |
| 01:27.00 | jleclanche | Kalroth: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GratuitousFrench |
| 01:28.53 | Amarande | Seerah, is your PSU a Corsair? |
| 01:30.50 | Seerah | I don't recall off the top of my head |
| 01:31.47 | Seerah | nope, Cooler Master |
| 01:32.43 | Seerah | oh wait, that's from my old computer.... hmm... I still don't remember then :p |
| 01:32.45 | Amarande | Ah. I know apparently the Corsairs don't spin up their fans unless they need to |
| 01:33.50 | Neffi | could be a loose piece of something the fan blades are hitting into |
| 01:34.56 | Seerah | Yeah, maybe for Amarande. We've opened the case and didn't see anything. (I think it is my front case fan, now that I think about it.) It doesn't happen all the time and goes away on its own. |
| 01:34.58 | kd3 | blah. we go from getting up into the 60s to upper teens and windy in ~24 hours |
| 01:35.17 | kd3 | the bearings may be acting up? |
| 01:35.31 | Amarande | kd3: yeah, I'm not sure if it's the bearings or if something is getting caught in the fan blades |
| 01:35.32 | Seerah | probably |
| 01:35.47 | Amarande | the only thing I can think of in the latter case is the stupid little wire from the audio front panel connector |
| 01:35.50 | Neffi | yeah we were hovering around the upper 40s and mid 50s just like 2 days ago, kd3. now it's -2 with windchill and we've got 8" so far |
| 01:36.07 | Amarande | since the case has that dual support one where it's got wires for both HD and AC'97 and then the other wire just dangles ... right in the vicinity of the PSU |
| 01:37.39 | Amarande | it's hard to tell, because it's practically impossible when closing the case after doing anything, to not have the wire going to the side case fan bump that other wire, so you can never really quite tell its location |
| 01:37.41 | Neffi | snip the ac'97? who uses that anymore anyway? |
| 01:41.38 | Amarande | yay, it is cord dangle apparently |
| 01:41.44 | Amarande | hm do I have any electrical tape hanging around |
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| 02:03.29 | Amarande | there we go |
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| 02:41.26 | karl_w_w | apparently it's the 6th anniversary of heath ledger's death |
| 02:41.26 | Stanzilla | oh they finally posted Battle.net Desktop App 1.0.7 Patch Notes |
| 02:41.49 | Stanzilla | http://us.battle.net/en/forum/topic/11355415440 |
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| 02:49.22 | Amarande | karl: wow, has it been that long? |
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| 03:38.10 | Neffi | So persistent BNet chat is gonna become a thing with the BNet desktop app? |
| 03:38.31 | Neffi | I don't see any reason why I want a unified BNet app if it's not gonna allow me to keep my chats cross-login |
| 03:42.02 | Neffi | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/putting-hard-drive-reliablity-to-the-test-shows-not-all-disks-are-equal/ |
| 03:42.35 | Neffi | My distrust of Seagate put into concrete numbers. Hitachi did better than I expected |
| 03:42.36 | Arrowmaster | the 1.5tb seagates were always terrible |
| 03:43.00 | Arrowmaster | tons of firmware issues |
| 03:43.03 | Neffi | I figured WD would be Hitachi in reliability. They're close, but Hitacho won |
| 03:43.27 | Arrowmaster | well they did say their WDs are mostly from the green line |
| 03:45.25 | Neffi | Still acceptably reliable. I was gonna pick up a 4 TB Green for storage. The numbers look respectable considering it's the cheapest 4 TB drive I can find. |
| 03:45.42 | Neffi | (that isn't a Seagate) |
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| 03:48.18 | Arrowmaster | if i buy wd it would only be reds because i would be building a storage server running an array of some type |
| 03:48.54 | Iriel | I just bought 2 3TB reds |
| 03:50.10 | Iriel | Here's hoping they're not in the "fail early" sample |
| 03:52.48 | Cairenn | http://www.wimp.com/swedenpolice/ |
| 03:55.44 | Shirik | hey |
| 03:55.46 | Shirik | I know where they are |
| 04:00.04 | Wobin | I feel kinda sad when people put in a bug report for MrPlow =\ |
| 04:00.16 | Wobin | on the one hand, awesome, people are still using it |
| 04:00.28 | Wobin | on the other... err.. I'm not really in a position to fix anything =( |
| 04:01.24 | Cairenn | offs, Rob, gtfo |
| 04:07.34 | Iriel | Cairenn: Having a moment of national pride? |
| 04:07.45 | Cairenn | growls |
| 04:07.51 | kd3 | a video just showed up yesterday |
| 04:08.44 | Cairenn | Just when I was getting a chance to poke a little bit of good natured fun at another country, I hear on the news about another fricken video about dear Rob |
| 04:10.38 | Wobin | I hear your pain =( |
| 04:10.52 | Wobin | I'd like to do so, then I realise who is our PM |
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| 05:04.09 | Shirik | lol.... |
| 05:04.16 | Shirik | I was going back through my wikipedia contribs |
| 05:04.18 | Shirik | found this https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Albert_Charles_Lewis_G%C3%BCnther&diff=403966684&oldid=403966653 |
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| 05:24.06 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 05:24.12 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 05:24.29 | Fisker | how did you know? |
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| 07:49.36 | zenzio | Google search: "vanilla expression". Second result, a page from Wikipedia: "Vanilla sex" |
| 07:51.10 | Neffi | the image is of a vanilla ice cream cone... |
| 07:51.52 | zenzio | kids and their euphemisms these days. "Hey, want some of my vanilla ice cream cone?" |
| 07:52.10 | Neffi | hah |
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| 09:34.27 | Shirik | "An Italian man allegedly cut open his Dublin landlord's chest and tried to eat his heart following a fight over a chess match. " |
| 09:34.29 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 09:34.48 | Shirik | there are so many things wrong here I don't even know where to begin |
| 09:35.03 | Semlar | how do you play chess? |
| 09:37.07 | Corrodias | homicide is an optional rule |
| 09:39.13 | Mr_Rabies | <zenzio> Google search: "vanilla expression". Second result, a page from Wikipedia: "Vanilla sex" |
| 09:39.23 | Mr_Rabies | that reminds me of a GIS i made yesterday |
| 09:39.57 | Mr_Rabies | was looking for pics of Arcee from Transformers: Prime, and the second suggested additional search term was "Arcee Pregnant" |
| 09:40.13 | Mr_Rabies | how often do people look for that for that to be suggested D: |
| 09:41.28 | ZorbaBeta | I get "arcee transformers", "arcee and jack", "arcee prime", "arcee transformers prime toy", and "arcee g1". fun fact: google search suggestions are based on your previous searches and what it thinks you might be interested in. :V |
| 09:42.14 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 09:42.18 | Mr_Rabies | hmm |
| 09:42.48 | Mr_Rabies | i forget the exact thing i searched for but i can be sure that i've not searched for anything related to pregnancy :p |
| 09:42.58 | Mr_Rabies | (also my google search history is disabled) |
| 09:43.23 | Mr_Rabies | ah, it was "arcee transformers prime" |
| 09:43.28 | Mr_Rabies | on google images |
| 09:43.55 | Mr_Rabies | even suggested in an incognito window :p |
| 09:44.32 | ZorbaBeta | hah, I get toy, wallpaper, beast hunters, pregnant, hot |
| 09:44.55 | ZorbaBeta | that said I will point out that the pregnant search gives an incredible wealth of terrible fanart |
| 09:45.04 | Mr_Rabies | Toy, Jack Transformers Prime, Face, Wallpaper, Costume |
| 09:45.13 | Mr_Rabies | so it could be using location data to personalize too D: |
| 09:45.23 | zenzio | once when I was looking for pictures of some actor, don't recall who, Google Image Search suggested "<name> rule 34" |
| 09:45.30 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 09:45.33 | Neffi | ha |
| 09:45.56 | Mr_Rabies | usually when i search deviantart for terrible fanart i use my friend's irc bot |
| 09:46.01 | Mr_Rabies | so that it's like russian roulette |
| 09:46.21 | Mr_Rabies | and everyone in the channel has to deal with the result |
| 09:46.41 | zenzio | heh |
| 09:49.15 | Mr_Rabies | his irc bot once had the ability to paste nicholas cage's face on any faces in an image |
| 09:49.23 | Mr_Rabies | it's gone now that facebook bought face.com |
| 09:49.25 | Mr_Rabies | :( |
| 09:50.48 | zenzio | of all the possible faces... Nicolas Cage? |
| 09:50.51 | Mr_Rabies | well |
| 09:50.54 | Mr_Rabies | we also had a few others |
| 09:50.58 | Mr_Rabies | steve ballmer, uh |
| 09:52.56 | Mr_Rabies | i should look to see if there's anything with a free API like face.com now |
| 09:54.02 | ZorbaBeta | open-source graphics processing APIs have gotten pretty dang good |
| 10:07.11 | zenzio | for a while it seemed like every tenth question or so on StackOverflow's c++ tag was about OpenCV |
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| 15:08.48 | Semlar | ~framexml |
| 15:08.48 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console or open 'World of Warcraft.app' --args -console after game loads press ~ and enter commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml . |
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| 16:18.20 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:18.30 | Fisker | creeper |
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| 16:34.02 | Jamash | Fisker: sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss |
| 16:35.02 | Workfoz | snake? |
| 16:35.50 | Fisker | nope |
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| 16:37.51 | Jamash | Workfoz: http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Creeper |
| 16:38.04 | Workfoz | no. Snaaaaake. |
| 16:38.09 | Workfoz | :D |
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| 16:43.38 | nicoli_s | i love seeing people link gamepedia |
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| 16:49.07 | Fisker | is it your fetish nicoli_s ? |
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| 16:50.01 | Jamash | nicoli_s: well, the alternative is usually wikia and f that |
| 16:50.09 | nicoli_s | nope just like seeing our sites/products get used |
| 16:50.23 | nicoli_s | jamash: wont argue with ya there i cant stand wikia |
| 16:50.25 | Jamash | I wish google blacklist still worked |
| 16:55.18 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not a creeper. I'm a mushroom. |
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| 17:33.23 | Jamash | Lopeppeppy: I thought you were a dinosaur. |
| 17:33.34 | Lopeppeppy | Cannot I be both? |
| 17:33.54 | Jamash | are... are you a yoshi? |
| 17:34.13 | Lopeppeppy | No, I think he's a very unique creature. I am not him. |
| 17:34.59 | Jamash | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GuTamQ5thY |
| 17:38.52 | Fisker | what is it with ladies and dinosaurs Lopeppeppy? |
| 17:39.34 | Lopeppeppy | We like what we like, Fisker. |
| 17:39.52 | Fisker | why are you dinosaurs? Because huge and scaly? |
| 17:40.01 | Fisker | I'm gonna have a bad time aren't I? |
| 17:41.23 | Fisker | Or maybe because vicious and consume snappy humans |
| 17:41.33 | Fisker | or devour |
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| 17:51.31 | Jamash | holy crap I just tried turning dual spec spam filtering off in learning aid to see what it's like normally |
| 17:51.40 | Jamash | how has blizzard not fixed this |
| 17:52.28 | Jamash | 46 lines of chat spam |
| 17:55.19 | Lopeppeppy | I really don't know why helpful forum people became dinosaurs, Fisker. Maybe because we at trolls? I'm a dinosaur emerita anyway. |
| 17:58.19 | karl_w_w | look what i did with thoughtsteal and cabal shadow priest :Phttp://i.imgur.com/gx3i8NK.png |
| 17:58.36 | karl_w_w | s/:Ph/:P h/ |
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| 18:06.15 | Jamash | hmm, abilities that transform based on spec seem to screw up my action bar search code |
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| 18:14.13 | Arrowmaster | !ping |
| 18:14.15 | Arrowmaster | ~ping |
| 18:14.16 | purl | ~pong |
| 18:14.21 | Arrowmaster | dafuk |
| 18:23.36 | Fisker | oh ok Lopeppeppy I'm glad I wasn't devoured for blaspheming |
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| 18:31.30 | Lopeppeppy | Nom nom. I don't think you trolled my UI forum when I was a hungry dinosaur. |
| 18:36.47 | Gnarfoz | http://strawpoll.me/1058175 pick which map the HotS Q&A/live game is going to be played on |
| 18:38.27 | Jamash | why must blizzard apis be so full of fail |
| 18:38.41 | karl_w_w | Gnarfoz, what Q&A/live game? |
| 18:38.56 | Gnarfoz | karl_w_w: http://www.heroesofthestorm.com/en-us/news/12440698/live-heroes-developer-qa-round-two |
| 18:39.11 | Arrowmaster | whys the 4th map not there? |
| 18:39.25 | Gnarfoz | dunno, scrubbed? |
| 18:39.35 | Jamash | imo HoS for heroes of the storm, HotS for Heart of the Swarm |
| 18:40.20 | Arrowmaster | did they play one or two maps at blizzcon for the live game? i only remember haunted mines and cant remember if they did dragon lord or not, they did the other two maps for the broadcasted 2 games later on |
| 18:40.21 | karl_w_w | not necessary cos nobody uses HotS for heart of the swarm |
| 18:40.26 | Jamash | yes they do |
| 18:40.44 | nicoli_s | im ready for HoS to leak! |
| 18:40.51 | Gethe | imo HotS for heroes of the storm, SC2 for Heart of the Swarm |
| 18:40.53 | Arrowmaster | i want beta |
| 18:41.00 | karl_w_w | what Gethe said |
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| 18:41.47 | Gnarfoz | the man with the hat makes much sense |
| 18:42.10 | Jamash | hefence of the sanchients |
| 18:45.52 | Jamash | how long does a match take? |
| 18:46.08 | Arrowmaster | in what? |
| 18:46.33 | Jamash | heroes of the swarm, I mean storm |
| 18:46.46 | Arrowmaster | HotS? we ran into the time limit in one game because we were so evenly matched, the rest were over in a little under that |
| 18:46.50 | Gethe | i think they are aiming for 20mins |
| 18:47.08 | Arrowmaster | time limit was only because of blizzcon, wont be in final |
| 18:47.09 | Gethe | on avg |
| 18:47.31 | Jamash | good, I hear about dota matches going for 45min-over an hour and it puts me off the entire concept |
| 18:48.11 | Arrowmaster | yeah dota etc sound like there way too much grinding and setup at the beginning, heroes you are out the gate in jumping into team battles right away |
| 18:48.21 | Jamash | cool |
| 18:48.26 | Gethe | stream is up ~13mins to start |
| 18:48.34 | Gethe | http://www.twitch.tv/blizzheroes |
| 18:48.35 | Arrowmaster | where as dota etc it sounds like you avoid the other enemy completely for the first 30 minutes |
| 18:48.42 | nevcairiel | dota2 starts a bit slow-ish usually, with the initial leveling and gearing, but after that i never thought a game was just boring long, usually there is constant fighting :p |
| 18:49.08 | Jamash | I'm not concerned about boring, I'm concerned about absolute game length |
| 18:49.47 | Arrowmaster | did you watch the dev games broadcast in december? |
| 18:49.57 | Jamash | nope, my computer was broken |
| 18:50.06 | karl_w_w | "Heroes of the Storm playing Heroes of the Storm" |
| 18:50.10 | karl_w_w | that's so deep |
| 18:50.16 | Arrowmaster | the 2nd one was absolutely amazing with the turn around near the end, shows that you cant think a game is over till its over |
| 18:52.22 | Arrowmaster | look for them on youtube after this is over, husky was one of the announcers |
| 18:52.33 | karl_w_w | you dont avoid the other team in dota 2, even at the start. well, on a few select heroes you might, but generally there's a large amount of play there |
| 18:53.07 | Arrowmaster | well i understood it as being a lot of creeping first |
| 18:53.29 | karl_w_w | yeah but if you don't pressure the opponent you're screwed |
| 18:54.03 | nevcairiel | some heroes go jungleing and you wont see them for a while, never liked that myself but it can help your team |
| 18:54.09 | Arrowmaster | hots is about map objectives and mercs more than creeps |
| 18:54.24 | nevcairiel | otherwise you're just face to face on your lane with the enemy |
| 18:54.25 | karl_w_w | which sounds gimmicky to me |
| 18:54.44 | nevcairiel | your creeps fight each other, and the heroes hang around to get last hits and harass the enemy heroes :p |
| 18:54.51 | Arrowmaster | karl_w_w: no its insanely fun |
| 18:55.09 | Jamash | does heroes have last hits? |
| 18:55.23 | Arrowmaster | yes but i dont know the mechanics |
| 18:55.26 | karl_w_w | there were game modes like that in the original dota (not sure about dota 2) and they were never as good as normal play |
| 18:55.31 | Unkle | It is one of the few games I find entertaining to watch. |
| 18:57.22 | Arrowmaster | karl_w_w: leave the lowly twitch uers alone |
| 18:57.37 | karl_w_w | :D |
| 18:57.51 | karl_w_w | I'll give heroes of the storm the time of day, but never league |
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| 18:58.35 | Jamash | last hitting is one of those things real games took out a decade ago |
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| 18:59.19 | karl_w_w | because it was too hard? :P |
| 18:59.24 | Arrowmaster | it tells you who got the last hit but afaik it has no gameplay effect who did it other than if it was a hero or a creep/merc/gollem |
| 18:59.25 | Jamash | because it was stupid |
| 18:59.31 | Jamash | oh good |
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| 18:59.38 | karl_w_w | I don't see why it's stupid |
| 18:59.58 | Arrowmaster | Jamash: the shared team xp makes it a nonissue |
| 19:00.06 | Jamash | Arrowmaster: good |
| 19:00.12 | karl_w_w | shared xp? |
| 19:00.22 | nevcairiel | in dota2 it always felt more about the gold when creeping |
| 19:00.28 | jleclanche | Who's going to FOSDEM here? |
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| 19:00.57 | karl_w_w | fosdem? |
| 19:01.02 | karl_w_w | i dont even know dem! |
| 19:01.02 | jleclanche | http://fosdem.org |
| 19:01.07 | Arrowmaster | karl_w_w: yes there is no individual levels like other mobos, the levels are for the entire team |
| 19:01.09 | nevcairiel | hm now that my US trip was postponed, i may consider going |
| 19:01.12 | jleclanche | hah nice |
| 19:01.32 | Arrowmaster | awesome trailer |
| 19:01.55 | Gethe | dat pose |
| 19:01.55 | Jamash | wait is that two kerrigans or kerrigan and nova |
| 19:01.59 | Neffi | beer? |
| 19:02.00 | karl_w_w | i might have to just ignore this game until i can actually try it myself because every time I hear something about it it sounds less good |
| 19:02.04 | Arrowmaster | Jamash: its nova |
| 19:02.46 | Jamash | baneling baneling baneling! |
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| 19:03.02 | nevcairiel | why cant twitch be a proper streaming platform already |
| 19:03.46 | karl_w_w | what's wrong with it? |
| 19:03.47 | Jamash | what's improper about it? |
| 19:04.05 | nevcairiel | it lags terribly |
| 19:04.45 | karl_w_w | why can't your PC be a proper stream recieving platform already? :P |
| 19:05.12 | nevcairiel | my pc and connection are perfectly fine |
| 19:05.26 | Arrowmaster | cursed hollow is ravenlord map right? |
| 19:05.39 | karl_w_w | I watch a lot of twitch and this channel isn't lagging, same as all the others |
| 19:05.48 | karl_w_w | and my connection is a piece of shit |
| 19:05.49 | Jamash | probably different datacenter |
| 19:06.00 | tissle | Question: I have set up a few buttons (MyButton1-12 for example) with a texture named MyButton1Icon, then i use MyButton1:SetAttribute() - if i issue a SetTexture() to this MyButton1Icon, game will report a texture change if i ask it GetTexture - But it doesnt change icon - anyone got any clue as to why? |
| 19:07.52 | karl_w_w | the texture is probably not valid |
| 19:07.56 | karl_w_w | gettexture lies |
| 19:08.10 | karl_w_w | http://wowpedia.org/API_Texture_SetTexture |
| 19:08.33 | Arrowmaster | i lost video |
| 19:11.26 | Arrowmaster | ~ping |
| 19:11.26 | purl | ~pong |
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| 19:12.25 | Jamash | I want SC:Ghost |
| 19:12.48 | Arrowmaster | im still trying to get video back |
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| 19:15.44 | Jamash | team leveling means there can be commander heroes that don't fight directly |
| 19:16.05 | Arrowmaster | there already is one |
| 19:16.11 | Jamash | they're talking about him |
| 19:16.41 | Arrowmaster | i dont know who to be pissed at right now, twitch or twc |
| 19:16.48 | Jamash | why not both? |
| 19:16.57 | nevcairiel | join me in being pissed at twitch |
| 19:17.45 | Arrowmaster | yeah it just says "Loading video..." |
| 19:17.58 | karl_w_w | watches 2 streams at once with no issue |
| 19:17.59 | Arrowmaster | guess ill have to watch it later |
| 19:18.10 | nevcairiel | had that for a while, then it switched to video which buffers every 20 seconds |
| 19:18.32 | Arrowmaster | theres only 8.5k people watching right |
| 19:18.39 | Jamash | twitch has way more users than it has the tech to handle |
| 19:18.41 | Arrowmaster | or is that 2.5mil |
| 19:18.52 | karl_w_w | 8.5k |
| 19:18.54 | nevcairiel | watching now is the first number |
| 19:19.01 | Arrowmaster | whats 2nd number? |
| 19:19.09 | nevcairiel | total views |
| 19:19.18 | nevcairiel | channel is old |
| 19:19.51 | karl_w_w | have you tried using a lower stream quality? |
| 19:20.10 | Maldivia | my stream is perfect... the chat is annoying as hell though :) |
| 19:20.16 | nevcairiel | you can hide it |
| 19:20.24 | Arrowmaster | i dont even get stream quality options |
| 19:20.39 | Maldivia | but then I can't see all the #GiveBetaKey spam :) |
| 19:20.41 | nevcairiel | its the text which says "Source" |
| 19:21.13 | Arrowmaster | dont see it |
| 19:21.17 | karl_w_w | twitch chat is horrible on most channels |
| 19:21.26 | Gethe | r9k mode |
| 19:21.38 | karl_w_w | even so |
| 19:22.44 | karl_w_w | oh my god 3 ways to play a hero? that's so many! |
| 19:22.47 | karl_w_w | sarcasms! |
| 19:25.01 | karl_w_w | did i mishear or did he say "you just bone me with kerrigan"? |
| 19:25.45 | Arrowmaster | ok somebody tell me when its over and the the nonlive video is available |
| 19:26.04 | nevcairiel | in low quality mode it works nearly ok now |
| 19:28.16 | karl_w_w | it's not like 8.5k is a lot, streams routinely get to 20k+ without problems |
| 19:28.50 | Jamash | but how many per datacenter, and how well is each center provisioned |
| 19:28.51 | nevcairiel | maybe you're just lucky that there isn't so many people pegging the aussie datacenter :P |
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| 19:30.20 | karl_w_w | hahaha |
| 19:30.21 | karl_w_w | oh lord |
| 19:30.32 | karl_w_w | aussie datacenter, there's something you don't hear every day |
| 19:31.09 | nevcairiel | twitch might be large enough to have a aussie or at least oceanic set of servers somewhere |
| 19:31.11 | Jamash | s/every/any/ |
| 19:32.10 | Jamash | aus+nz pop is less than california |
| 19:33.20 | Dagmar | More predation keeps their numbers in check |
| 19:33.37 | Jamash | here's what we need to do |
| 19:33.58 | Jamash | build a giant winch and pull japan, australia, new zealand and hawaii together |
| 19:36.02 | karl_w_w | wow |
| 19:36.07 | karl_w_w | day9 looks high as a kite |
| 19:36.19 | Gethe | he always looks high |
| 19:37.02 | karl_w_w | I've never noticed from what little I've seen of him |
| 19:38.19 | Gethe | blizz needs to get a better handle on this streaming deal |
| 19:38.46 | zenzelezz | what is being streamed? |
| 19:39.02 | Gethe | heros of the storm |
| 19:39.05 | Maldivia | zenzelezz: http://www.twitch.tv/blizzheroes |
| 19:39.12 | zenzelezz | ah, meh |
| 19:39.16 | karl_w_w | a screen that says stay tuned live match up next |
| 19:39.24 | Maldivia | zenzelezz: there was a Dev Q&A, and then live match coming up |
| 19:39.45 | zenzelezz | HotS doesn't interest me much; neither Hearthstone |
| 19:40.29 | Gethe | it's pretty fun from the one match i played at blizzcon |
| 19:40.33 | zenzelezz | dev Q&As can be interesting nevertheless |
| 19:40.33 | nevcairiel | I somewhat like playing matches in Hearthstone, but i hate building decks, so in general the whole game is lost to me :p |
| 19:41.29 | Maldivia | then find decks online, nad play using those |
| 19:42.22 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 19:42.30 | nevcairiel | finished decks are great if you have the cards for it |
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| 19:42.42 | karl_w_w | so find one of the million budget decks |
| 19:42.57 | karl_w_w | it's actually easier to find a budget deck than a pricey one |
| 19:44.07 | karl_w_w | or just play druid and pick all the cards, their basic cards are all amazing |
| 19:44.54 | zenzelezz | card games like that never did it for me |
| 19:45.43 | nevcairiel | can you win anything with just basic cards? :d |
| 19:45.52 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 19:45.56 | karl_w_w | matches |
| 19:46.50 | karl_w_w | you wont reach legendary with them but almost all people wouldnt reach legendary if they had all the cards :P |
| 19:46.58 | nevcairiel | i should probably finish unlocking all basic cards for all decks :P |
| 19:47.39 | Arrowmaster | i need to do that too, when i can get it working on linux again |
| 19:49.07 | karl_w_w | this game looks silly |
| 19:49.30 | karl_w_w | so easy to get kills at level 1 |
| 19:52.35 | nevcairiel | hm did they break the taunt shield icon recently |
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| 19:53.55 | karl_w_w | you mean the border nevcairiel? |
| 19:53.56 | karl_w_w | no |
| 19:54.12 | nevcairiel | doenst show up for me right now |
| 19:54.31 | karl_w_w | never seen that happen before |
| 19:54.54 | nevcairiel | i frequently get some sort of UI glitches after alt-tabing out of the game |
| 19:55.18 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 19:55.32 | karl_w_w | I've seen lots, but never that :P |
| 19:55.51 | karl_w_w | it's usually text or glowy effects |
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| 20:12.43 | Arrowmaster | well that was quick, now ive got a phone interview on monday |
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| 20:14.45 | Jamash | grats Arrowmaster |
| 20:15.31 | Gethe | arrow you can watch the VoD of the hots stream now |
| 20:16.55 | Arrowmaster | hey it works |
| 20:19.10 | Arrowmaster | kinda laggy |
| 20:20.23 | nicoli_s | wheres a link to the vod? |
| 20:20.36 | nicoli_s | it only shows the dev QA 1 on twitch |
| 20:20.38 | Arrowmaster | http://www.twitch.tv/blizzheroes/b/497316407 |
| 20:20.57 | Arrowmaster | there was 3 videos listed for me |
| 20:21.33 | nicoli_s | odd |
| 20:23.08 | tissle | karl_w_w im sorry for my late response: but i am using the texturepath provided by GetSpellInfo, it cant be false, cause i can set it to another button upon creation. |
| 20:24.03 | tissle | but ill keep tinkering! |
| 20:25.03 | Arrowmaster | my router is being really slow ut top doesnt show any issues |
| 20:25.18 | Arrowmaster | wonder if the nvram is finally shitting out |
| 20:25.28 | TC-Work | I find that top does not always work well |
| 20:25.37 | TC-Work | I prefer to use ps and look for myself. |
| 20:26.43 | Arrowmaster | rebooting |
| 20:31.25 | Arrowmaster | TC-Work: yeah silly busybox ps on this router only has basic ps output |
| 20:33.16 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/Fv7bMWv.jpg nevcairiel |
| 20:35.00 | Arrowmaster | i need to save that |
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| 20:49.18 | karl_w_w | http://www.twitch.tv/trumpsc does this work without problems Arrowmaster? |
| 20:52.57 | Arrowmaster | karl_w_w: yeah |
| 20:53.12 | karl_w_w | odd |
| 20:54.13 | Arrowmaster | maybe it was my router |
| 20:54.21 | Arrowmaster | it is an 11 year old model |
| 20:56.15 | karl_w_w | that's disgusting |
| 20:56.39 | karl_w_w | children so young shouldn't be modelling |
| 20:56.52 | Dagmar | Oh come on, that's like 45 in router years |
| 21:02.52 | Fisker | Lopeppeppy |
| 21:03.37 | Lopeppeppy | Bless you, my child. |
| 21:06.14 | Fisker | I am blessed |
| 21:13.45 | Torhal | I seriously doubt you're her offspring, though. |
| 21:20.03 | TC-Work | At least you hope not. |
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| 21:36.39 | Stanzilla | !api fyling |
| 21:36.41 | Stanzilla | ... |
| 21:36.44 | Stanzilla | !api flying |
| 21:40.11 | Arrowmaster | bot not here |
| 21:40.36 | Stanzilla | bad bot |
| 21:40.40 | Stanzilla | found it anyway |
| 21:43.55 | TC-Work | I should hope so |
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| 22:22.34 | nicoli_s | btw we added a ton of new jobs to http://www.curse.com/jobs if anyone is interested |
| 22:23.24 | zenzelezz | "a ton of new jobs" always sounds ambiguous in a way; could be "we're doing so well" or "we just lost so many people" (usually means the former) |
| 22:24.39 | nicoli_s | its the former |
| 22:25.13 | zenzelezz | "reverse engineer", that's not a job title I see very often :) |
| 22:28.13 | nicoli_s | heh we have 3 on staff now! |
| 22:28.16 | nicoli_s | me included |
| 22:30.40 | Primer | http://www.curse.com/open-positions/reverse-engineer |
| 22:30.46 | Primer | that one looks...interesting |
| 22:30.57 | zenzelezz | that's basically what we just spoke about two minutes ago :) |
| 22:31.10 | zenzelezz | such jobs sound interesting, but are beyond my skill. And nothing is ever in Norway \o/ |
| 22:31.12 | TC-Work | Reading is hard. |
| 22:31.12 | Primer | I clicked the link, then read more |
| 22:31.26 | Primer | so, yeah, I did that |
| 22:31.43 | Primer | Can't see myself moving to a red state though |
| 22:31.58 | nicoli_s | huntsville isnt like any of the rest of alabama |
| 22:32.05 | Primer | riiiight |
| 22:32.07 | nicoli_s | its like a blue oasis in a terrible terrible state |
| 22:32.21 | nicoli_s | no really, we have a huge # of educated and liberal engineers in this town |
| 22:32.41 | Primer | surrounded by a bunch of hicks |
| 22:32.41 | nicoli_s | its more progressive than alot of cities, and compared to the rest of AL its like a san fran in terms of liberalness |
| 22:32.59 | Primer | they'll be coming with pitchforks soon |
| 22:33.05 | Primer | to drive out the heretics |
| 22:33.07 | nicoli_s | ive lived here for 6+ years, never had any issues with the hillbillies of the area |
| 22:33.15 | Amarande | heh, a dwarf in Moria just told me "I would not drink of the waters here if I were you" |
| 22:33.22 | Amarande | ... does that actually have to be said? :) |
| 22:33.26 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 22:33.31 | Amarande | I mean, we're talking a DWARF here, what self-respecting dwarf drinks water :) |
| 22:35.17 | Mr_Rabies | fish do their buisness in there, i don't touch the stuff |
| 22:35.22 | Neffi | ~framexml |
| 22:35.22 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console or open 'World of Warcraft.app' --args -console after game loads press ~ and enter commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml . |
| 22:35.36 | Neffi | is there an up to date online art browser? |
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| 22:50.42 | Seerah | Neffi: just extract it yourself |
| 22:51.19 | Seerah | http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code |
| 22:51.47 | Neffi | Yeah, I just wanted something I could browse without needing to do all that then feed everything into a BLP converter |
| 22:52.11 | Seerah | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info16700-BLPView.html ;) |
| 22:52.50 | Seerah | (or for a Mac: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9011-BLPLook.html ) |
| 22:55.35 | Mr_Rabies | i wonder why they use BLP format instead of something more sane |
| 22:55.55 | Seerah | it's a proprietary format |
| 22:55.59 | Seerah | (I thought) |
| 22:56.01 | Mr_Rabies | like, TGA is insane enough but they go even further with BLP |
| 22:56.27 | Neffi | png is too good? |
| 22:56.43 | Mr_Rabies | i guess it's got mipmap levels defined in the actual image, though |
| 22:58.32 | Mr_Rabies | internally they appear to be jpg or S3TC compressed images, according to http://wowpedia.org/BLP |
| 22:58.49 | nicoli_s | blp is one of those container image formats |
| 22:58.53 | nicoli_s | can contain diff image types |
| 22:59.03 | nicoli_s | depending on if they need just stuff like raw colors or really detailed images |
| 22:59.09 | Mr_Rabies | but wow only does S3TC it seems |
| 23:02.33 | VIad1 | quickie regarding curse svn - how do I reset my log? I mean each addon release attaches a huge log of all the changes since the first version. is it possible to stop it and start anew? |
| 23:03.50 | Seerah | Not that I know of. I think I've seen this question before, though, on the wowace forums. iirc, the answer is you have to include your own copy of the changelog in that case. (But I may be mistaken.) |
| 23:04.15 | VIad1 | weird thing is suddenly my miniloot addon started to compile the log from revision 100 or something |
| 23:04.30 | VIad1 | so it kind of ignored all the older log entries - something I don't mind :P |
| 23:07.21 | nicoli_s | VIad1: we are working on the new CurseForge, so maybe we can make that configurable for you |
| 23:07.25 | nicoli_s | bug Torhal about it :P |
| 23:08.11 | VIad1 | only reason I ask is because someone asked me how I managed to reset my log and start from the current revision and up - so I said I don't know, so I wanted to ask you guys :D |
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| 23:23.10 | Neffi | http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/01/protestors-show-up-at-the-doorstep-of-google-self-driving-car-engineer/ |
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| 23:51.38 | znf | Neffi, *americans* |
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| 23:54.11 | Neffi | Californians* |
| 23:54.17 | Neffi | murrica's a big country |
| 23:58.42 | TC-Work | Hippies* |
