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| 00:45.02 | Arrowmaster | http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/20/5327506/porn-studio-digitally-removes-condoms-from-releases-to-provide-pre |
| 00:47.26 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: At least they aren't going the Spielberg route... |
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| 02:37.57 | Neffi | pokes Semlar. |
| 02:39.02 | Semlar | you can't just go around poking people |
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| 03:20.28 | Torhal | peeks Semlar. |
| 03:22.58 | Neffi | relevant http://ih2.redbubble.net/image.7369919.1385/sticker,375x360.png |
| 03:27.09 | Torhal | wonders if there's an ASM for stab. |
| 03:33.33 | Amarande | Torhal: I think that requires levels of CPU integration that are still quite some time from now :) |
| 03:34.07 | Amarande | stabbing is usually performed by peripherals |
| 03:34.09 | Amarande | :) |
| 03:34.15 | Torhal | Amarande: I'd wager they'll arrive LONG before The Internet Facestab |
| 03:34.35 | Torhal | Though, really, that could be achieved with said technology. |
| 03:36.46 | Amarande | oh, here's one for you football and internet combo fans out there: The Obama administration plans to reform surveillance. They're going to change the present PATRIOT system to the all new Building Robust and Overarching Network Controls, Oversight, and Surveillance act :) |
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| 04:09.50 | Neffi | "we're still royally fucking over your freedom and privacy, but now it's named after a football team!" |
| 04:17.49 | Sintacks | slaps Neffi around a bit with a large trout | 4,806 tributes to Monty Python |
| 04:17.58 | Sintacks | slaps Semlar around a bit with a large trout | 4,807 tributes to Monty Python |
| 04:24.23 | Semlar | :( |
| 04:26.30 | Amarande | Neffi: LOL, it was a joke about the PATRIOTs losing to the BRONCOS :) |
| 04:26.31 | Neffi | wtf |
| 04:26.40 | Amarande | you goof |
| 04:26.47 | Neffi | Oh, I don't watch football/handegg |
| 04:31.45 | Neffi | Semlar: http://i.imgur.com/elB2sQH.png ;) |
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| 05:26.07 | Mr_Rabies | kamen rider fourze is pretty much the best thing |
| 05:26.37 | Mr_Rabies | you have semlar tagged as "roxanne" neffi? |
| 05:26.40 | Mr_Rabies | what |
| 05:29.06 | Semlar | no neffi |
| 05:32.22 | Neffi | =( |
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| 05:36.39 | pompy | http://mashable.com/2014/01/20/candy-crush-trademarked-candy/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link wtf lol |
| 05:38.56 | Wobin | http://i.imgur.com/vGSjN2g.gif |
| 05:42.59 | Neffi | pompy: that makes me angry |
| 05:43.20 | Neffi | Our IP infrastructure obviously needs to be gutted and redone |
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| 05:43.40 | Corrodias | the USPTO is run by Hitler. he's back from the dead, and he's found a new way to piss everyone off. |
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| 06:34.26 | pompy | Neffi: indeed |
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| 07:24.43 | zenzio | "Unfortunately, most people's RAM is still limited. Only 8gb to maybe 32gb. For some games, that isn't enough to load everything into (especially since your operating system and other programs are using some). The end result: the game only loads some of the information into RAM. When you need more, you get a loading screen." |
| 07:25.10 | zenzio | I question the quality of a game that feels a need to load every single resource into memory |
| 07:26.01 | Torhal | unloads airtonix to make space for Pokémon. |
| 07:26.04 | Corrodias | okaaaay... no, you can't load everything into RAM (on a PC or a console), but streaming resources has been a thing since this entire console generation was crippled with incredibly small RAM |
| 07:26.10 | Corrodias | er, the last generation |
| 07:26.55 | Corrodias | pausing to load is still pretty common when you can't predict what comes next, though |
| 07:28.52 | zenzio | absolutely, I'm not questioning that |
| 07:29.08 | zenzio | I just found that reply that I quoted to sound... inaccurate for most games |
| 07:31.08 | Corrodias | it is kind of weird. i hope nobody has really suggested loading all game assets into RAM for the entire duration of the runtime. |
| 07:33.37 | Sintacks | zenzio, did you hear about what CoD:Ghosts does |
| 07:33.46 | zenzio | nope, do tell |
| 07:34.11 | Sintacks | about half the ram it uses, is nothing |
| 07:34.27 | zenzio | does it actually use it, or just reserve it? |
| 07:34.49 | zenzio | I'm guessing if it shows up in the "used" then it's actually committed |
| 07:35.54 | Corrodias | measuring memory use in Windows is not entirely straightforward |
| 07:35.58 | Sintacks | it uses it, and fills it with nothing. |
| 07:36.07 | Corrodias | private bytes, working set, and shared memory make it a little murky |
| 07:38.34 | Corrodias | i hope that has been accounted for, in this measurement. then i'd wonder why it's like that. |
| 07:41.44 | nevcairiel | Sintacks: you mean this "lets load up a bunch of ram to push useful content over the 32-bit boundary to screw with cheating tools"? :p |
| 07:41.48 | Sintacks | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-A0VEG5KOo |
| 07:42.41 | Sintacks | amd ues. |
| 07:42.42 | Sintacks | er |
| 07:42.48 | Sintacks | and yeah, pretty much seems like what they were doing. |
| 07:47.24 | zenzio | is the Ghosts .exe still 32-bit? |
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| 08:07.19 | Corrodias | judging by this conversation i would assume not, but i have no idea |
| 08:07.30 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 08:07.30 | purl | ~pong |
| 08:07.40 | bluspacecow | ~pong |
| 08:07.40 | purl | ~ping |
| 08:08.25 | Corrodias | looks at the video |
| 08:09.12 | Corrodias | i'm not entirely familiar with Cheat Engine, but ?? doesn't tell me that it's allocated and occupied by nulls. that'd be 00. |
| 08:09.53 | Corrodias | unallocated address space perhaps, although i don't know if you can request the OS to allocate memory at specific addresses |
| 08:10.07 | Corrodias | no idea what Cheat Engine means by ??, though, just guessing. |
| 08:11.02 | Corrodias | man, that didn't need to be a video at all |
| 08:11.13 | Corrodias | a forum post with 2 or 3 screenshots would have had everything covered |
| 08:13.07 | nevcairiel | didnt they post a patch to remove this shit, or do i remember wrong? |
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| 08:35.51 | Maldivia | *grumble* shitty mac 10.9 ip stack *grumble* |
| 08:42.52 | Sintacks | lol Corrodias |
| 08:43.00 | Sintacks | he went way too far with it, yes |
| 08:43.08 | Sintacks | but it's cuz he was bitching about other shit |
| 08:43.13 | Maldivia | how the hell can Apple fuck up the their IP stack soo much in OS X Mavericks?! |
| 08:43.32 | Sintacks | cuz apple |
| 08:44.51 | bluspacecow | LOL |
| 08:46.54 | Sintacks | slaps bluspacecow around a bit with a large trout | 4,809 tributes to Monty Python |
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| 09:53.44 | Icicle | Good Morning |
| 09:55.45 | Icicle | think im getting used to drupal now -_-.... |
| 09:56.01 | Icicle | Stockholm syndrome in full effect |
| 10:13.57 | Workfoz | Icicle: my condolences |
| 10:14.25 | Icicle | (bow) thank you Workfoz |
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| 10:23.13 | Icicle | From a performance issue.... is it better for a function to just return true/false or if it returns a variable... or doesnt matter |
| 10:23.26 | Icicle | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:25.24 | Icicle | and by variable I mean timestamp |
| 10:33.13 | karl_w_w | it's pretty rare that the highest quality brand of something is the most popular |
| 10:33.25 | karl_w_w | I can only thing of 1 example |
| 10:33.58 | Neffi | Icicle: doesn't matter either way |
| 10:34.14 | Neffi | Icicle: if you're worrying about the performnace implications of stuff like this, you're probably doing it wrong |
| 10:34.27 | Icicle | not really a worry |
| 10:34.37 | Icicle | Just came to mind as Iwas coding and I was curious |
| 10:34.53 | Icicle | I come from more of a business analyst / self taught coder style |
| 10:35.11 | Icicle | so a lot of the finer points are lost on me, but I find it interesting to know :) |
| 10:36.04 | Neffi | There should be zero difference |
| 10:37.26 | Icicle | ok cool, :) thanks Neffi |
| 10:52.28 | karl_w_w | does anybody else have any scars that they have no idea how they aquired? |
| 10:53.29 | Neffi | karl_w_w: you're being haunted |
| 10:53.47 | Neffi | your only option is to stop sleeping |
| 10:54.01 | karl_w_w | :P |
| 10:54.28 | karl_w_w | i have a faint 1cm scar on the outside of my thumb |
| 10:54.51 | Neffi | Probably happened while sleeping |
| 10:54.53 | karl_w_w | no clue how it got there |
| 10:54.58 | Neffi | I've cut myself a few times in my sleep |
| 10:55.03 | karl_w_w | been there a long time as well, now that I think about it |
| 10:55.14 | karl_w_w | I would've noticed the blood Neffi :P |
| 10:55.34 | Neffi | Sleep walking maybe? |
| 10:55.38 | karl_w_w | and I am a very still sleeper, don't know how I would ever manage to cut myself while sleeping |
| 10:55.55 | karl_w_w | I regularly wake up in the exact same position I fell asleep in |
| 10:56.13 | Neffi | or you're a very precise sleepwalker with OCD |
| 10:57.27 | Neffi | I've had scratches appear which werent deep enough to draw blood, but took a while to heal. It's possible to scar yourself without bleeding in your sleep |
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| 11:36.37 | karl_w_w | gilds bluipodcow |
| 11:36.54 | bluipodcow | Gasp! |
| 11:38.16 | karl_w_w | http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/forum/topic/11305510992 turns out husky is shit at hearthstone |
| 11:38.24 | karl_w_w | well, no we already knew that, but still |
| 11:40.20 | zenzio | which husky is this? First one that came to mind was HuskyStarcraft, but that doesn't seem quite like his style |
| 11:41.25 | karl_w_w | pretty sure it's him |
| 11:41.33 | karl_w_w | goes off to find confirmation |
| 11:42.02 | zenzio | either way, I do believe HuskyStarcraft most likely sucks at Hearthstone |
| 11:42.15 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiQUHJwAPBA yeah it's him |
| 11:43.35 | zenzio | interesting o_O |
| 11:53.13 | Icicle | pretty sure Husky has a lot of other things going on aside from Hearthstone |
| 11:53.23 | Icicle | but he's good marketing |
| 11:53.40 | zenzio | yup |
| 11:54.14 | zenzio | his Frozen Throne playthrough is apparently not a very high priority... which is a shame, amusing to see the way he plays |
| 12:02.12 | Maldivia | jleclanche: http://i.imgur.com/2Sgymxa.jpg |
| 12:02.27 | jleclanche | l ol |
| 12:12.48 | jleclanche | Maldivia: i still didnt watch the christmas special, i heard it was terrible. should i? |
| 12:14.22 | Neffi | Oh shit I forgot about the xmas special |
| 12:14.26 | Neffi | who said it was terrible? |
| 12:19.18 | jleclanche | someone |
| 12:19.43 | Maldivia | well, it's the new doctor, so you probably should |
| 12:23.37 | nevcairiel | the new doctor didnt play a big role though. the actual ep was a bit weird |
| 12:26.51 | Neffi | "a bit weird" I expect no less from this franchise |
| 12:27.46 | jleclanche | Maldivia: he regenerates? |
| 12:29.14 | nevcairiel | he does |
| 12:33.52 | karl_w_w | that's how the actor changes every time :P |
| 12:38.25 | Semlar | it wasn't horrible neffi |
| 12:39.13 | Neffi | bed time Semlar |
| 12:39.25 | Semlar | that doesn't sound right |
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| 13:06.49 | Icicle | :( just found out my parents cat died |
| 13:07.03 | Icicle | liver cancer.... f#@k cancer... |
| 13:07.21 | zenzio | :-( |
| 13:09.18 | Icicle | perhaps the only thing I regret in being an ex-pat is not being near family/loved ones during times like these |
| 13:09.33 | Icicle | Strongly considering moving back to the states |
| 13:14.47 | zenzio | where do you live now, and how come? |
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| 13:18.08 | Icicle | Germany |
| 13:18.14 | Icicle | in Cologne, its where the job was |
| 13:20.46 | zenzio | interesting; what kind of job was that? |
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| 13:25.01 | Icicle | I worked as a PHP developer, now im a Technical Lead or a more responsible PHP developer lol |
| 13:25.15 | Icicle | website maintenance and feature requests |
| 13:28.32 | zenzio | :) |
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| 13:40.56 | Icicle | learning lua and C++ though |
| 13:41.06 | Humbedooh | yay Lua, boo C++ |
| 13:41.11 | Icicle | would like to work on the WoW interface team :P |
| 13:41.31 | Icicle | seems like I could do most of the same things in C# |
| 13:41.37 | Humbedooh | :C |
| 13:41.40 | Humbedooh | nuuu |
| 13:41.45 | Humbedooh | C# is teh evil |
| 13:42.01 | Icicle | so Java then? or Perl? |
| 13:42.04 | Icicle | :P |
| 13:42.07 | Humbedooh | :( |
| 13:42.10 | Humbedooh | stop making me sad :/ |
| 13:42.14 | Humbedooh | Perl is okay though |
| 13:42.23 | Icicle | alright, what do you code with then outside of scripting languages |
| 13:42.31 | Humbedooh | but not javaFactoryBeanUnit |
| 13:43.17 | Humbedooh | Lua, C, plus some JavaScript+Python for work out of necessity and some Perl to maintain old features |
| 13:44.56 | Icicle | so you do end up using C |
| 13:45.05 | nevcairiel | C != C++ |
| 13:45.24 | Shirik | don't tell him boo C++ |
| 13:45.30 | Shirik | C++ is the greatest language |
| 13:45.50 | amro | too bad the standards commitee just went completely batshit |
| 13:46.03 | Icicle | I realize C != C++ |
| 13:46.03 | Icicle | :P |
| 13:46.14 | Shirik | the standards committee is fine |
| 13:46.14 | Icicle | didn't realize there is a C and C++ holy war |
| 13:46.32 | Shirik | the only real thing that is weird is rvalue references |
| 13:46.46 | Shirik | but it solved a real problem and even they admit they were probably done wrong |
| 13:46.47 | amro | Shirik: and libcairo++ |
| 13:46.50 | zenzio | well, as C++ is post-incremented, C would equal C++ |
| 13:47.10 | nevcairiel | zenzio: but only once |
| 13:47.16 | zenzio | yup |
| 13:47.22 | Shirik | actually |
| 13:47.36 | Shirik | I think `c == c++` is undefined behavior |
| 13:47.47 | Humbedooh | Shirik: f*** templates!! |
| 13:47.54 | Humbedooh | they're the root of all evil |
| 13:47.56 | Shirik | shut your mouth templates are great |
| 13:48.03 | Humbedooh | eeeevil |
| 13:48.07 | zenzio | don't tell that to, what's his name, the Facebook guy |
| 13:48.16 | Shirik | alexi |
| 13:48.19 | zenzio | that's the one |
| 13:48.35 | Shirik | I would love to debate this more but for some reason I have a 6 AM MEETING |
| 13:48.39 | Shirik | WHO SCHEDULES SOMETHING LIKE THIS |
| 13:48.47 | nevcairiel | sounds like fun |
| 13:48.50 | Humbedooh | enjoy! |
| 13:49.11 | zenzio | I'm confused though, isn't that like 18 hours from now for you? |
| 13:49.32 | nevcairiel | you are getting confused with timezones zenzio |
| 13:49.38 | zenzio | nevar |
| 13:49.49 | zenzio | closer to 24 I guess |
| 13:49.58 | nevcairiel | its 5:50 in calif |
| 13:50.04 | zenzio | wait, he isn't east coast? |
| 13:50.16 | Icicle | hooray for calif! |
| 13:50.33 | zenzio | well that certainly changes things, for some reason I thought he was from Florida |
| 13:51.04 | zenzio | either way, I do struggle doing timezones in my head |
| 13:51.15 | nevcairiel | i think he is from portland, which is the same timezone as calif |
| 13:52.34 | zenzio | about 10 more minutes and my Texan friends arrive at work... always nice, means I only have an hour left |
| 13:52.50 | zenzio | and I certainly never mention this to them |
| 13:54.42 | Icicle | mention what? (exactly) |
| 13:55.30 | zenzio | that I'm going home from work soon :-p |
| 13:55.44 | zenzio | "oh hi, I see you've got seven hours left at work - well, have fun" |
| 13:57.45 | Icicle | ah no I meant... |
| 13:58.11 | Icicle | "Not that'd I'd ever tell anyone this super secret thing" and then someone replies quickly with "What super secret thing" and you reply " Exactly" |
| 14:16.24 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/ZOg4G.jpg What a deal! |
| 14:16.38 | Neffi | I see why they named it "best buy" |
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| 14:40.56 | Icicle | hoyl shit those are expensive cables |
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| 14:51.12 | Maldivia | for stupid people with too much money |
| 15:03.18 | nebula169 | but they're made with carbon! |
| 15:04.00 | nebula169 | 503$ for a 16' hdmi cable, is that even real |
| 15:04.07 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 15:04.27 | nevcairiel | http://www.bestbuy.com/site/audioquest-diamond-3-3-high-speed-hdmi-cable-dark-gray-black/2383276.p?id=1218324437192 |
| 15:04.30 | nevcairiel | this is even worse! |
| 15:04.47 | nebula169 | lol wtf |
| 15:04.59 | nebula169 | oh shit, its made with DIAMONDS |
| 15:05.22 | nevcairiel | i think its just called that :p |
| 15:05.35 | nevcairiel | the really wtf'y thing is that some people actually buy these |
| 15:05.38 | g0urra | bestbuy domain: bbystatic.com |
| 15:05.39 | g0urra | heh |
| 15:06.17 | g0urra | did you see the reviews |
| 15:06.18 | g0urra | "What's not so great: the relatively low cost of this cable makes me worry about its durability, unclear installation instructions" |
| 15:06.28 | nevcairiel | those are just trolls |
| 15:06.40 | g0urra | oh really. |
| 15:06.52 | nevcairiel | "Do not buy! Does not work with toaster. I was told it could be plugged into toaster to make bagels faster. Went to return but I kinda melted the cord. =[" |
| 15:06.56 | nevcairiel | yes really! |
| 15:06.56 | g0urra | I never would've guessed. |
| 15:06.57 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 15:07.29 | g0urra | I guess you could say that the cables were... |
| 15:07.33 | g0urra | puts on sunglasses |
| 15:07.37 | g0urra | ...toasted |
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| 15:07.48 | nebula169 | What's great about it: Filled with real diamonds |
| 15:07.48 | nebula169 | What's not so great: Could have been filled with more diamonds |
| 15:07.50 | nebula169 | see! |
| 15:07.59 | karl_w_w | i wonder if blizzard will make their own overlay |
| 15:08.50 | Maldivia | well, chat is coming Soon(tm) for the client, so :) |
| 15:09.03 | Torhal | WAT |
| 15:09.09 | nebula169 | to do what? if you're in game you can already talk to everyone on your friend's list |
| 15:09.30 | karl_w_w | who knows |
| 15:09.31 | g0urra | and if you don't want to open a game just to chat? |
| 15:09.40 | nebula169 | was wrt an overlay |
| 15:09.43 | g0urra | that'd be like having to play a game in steam in order to chat with steam friends |
| 15:09.44 | Maldivia | g0urra: that's what the bnet client is for |
| 15:09.50 | Torhal | replaces g0urra's sunglasses with laser goggles. |
| 15:09.59 | g0urra | and the bnet client doesn't let you chat within the client |
| 15:10.00 | g0urra | next |
| 15:10.10 | Maldivia | g0urra: it will in the future though |
| 15:10.29 | g0urra | but it doesn't now, does it? that was my point |
| 15:10.37 | nevcairiel | your point is invalid |
| 15:10.45 | g0urra | your face is invalid |
| 15:11.03 | Torhal | You're all invalids? |
| 15:11.52 | bluipodcow | *noms torhal* |
| 15:12.00 | Torhal | BAD! |
| 15:12.38 | bluipodcow | :) |
| 15:12.51 | bluipodcow | Om nom nom nom |
| 15:13.15 | Icicle | blizzard own overlay? |
| 15:13.25 | Icicle | whatcha mean? |
| 15:13.35 | Icicle | @kawl_w_w |
| 15:13.44 | Icicle | bah @ karl_w_w |
| 15:14.32 | VIad | <3 |
| 15:14.59 | Maldivia | more interesting though -- will they "fix" bnet chat in WoW, so it's available on the char-select screen as well, so you don't have the constant logon/logoff announcement when people change to another char |
| 15:15.32 | karl_w_w | an in-game overlay like steam Icicle |
| 15:15.56 | Icicle | isn't that already there in toast notifications? |
| 15:16.32 | Maldivia | but it doesn't really make sense for them to have it, unless they want to support it in non-Blizzard games, since all their games already have build in chat |
| 15:17.49 | karl_w_w | the steam overlay isnt only for chat |
| 15:18.01 | karl_w_w | and im sure there are other things they can do that steam doesnt do |
| 15:18.11 | karl_w_w | like the armory |
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| 15:19.40 | nevcairiel | armory is one game |
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| 15:21.11 | Icicle | not much cross pollination from what I can see |
| 15:21.27 | Icicle | its nice though that I can auth once for all games though |
| 15:21.40 | Icicle | used to be really annoying when I was a caster in SC2 and a Raider in WoW |
| 15:21.46 | Icicle | *shrugs |
| 15:21.58 | nevcairiel | yeah, i've been wondering how secure it is though, since it hasn't asked for my authenticator just once since i installed the b.net app |
| 15:22.17 | nevcairiel | despite my b.net setting being "ask everytime" |
| 15:22.55 | Icicle | should be every 30 days |
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| 15:23.00 | Icicle | or when you log in on a different IP |
| 15:23.08 | nevcairiel | i have a different IP every day |
| 15:23.14 | jleclanche | http://i.imgur.com/RkxpnXp.png what online gaming service is this? |
| 15:23.19 | jleclanche | (the logo at the topleft) |
| 15:23.27 | Icicle | Star Fox 64? :) |
| 15:23.47 | jleclanche | the game is super hexagon |
| 15:23.48 | Icicle | noclue |
| 15:23.51 | jleclanche | im asking about the service |
| 15:23.53 | Icicle | see no logo though |
| 15:24.23 | g0urra | apple game center |
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| 15:25.57 | Maldivia | jleclanche: https://developer.apple.com/game-center/ |
| 15:26.11 | g0urra | like I just said |
| 15:26.19 | Torhal | Where's the press release or whatever saying there's going to be an overlay? |
| 15:26.47 | g0urra | nobody said that |
| 15:26.59 | g0urra | karl_w_w wondered if there was going to be an overlay anytime soon |
| 15:27.09 | g0urra | and Maldivia said that chat will come to the client Soon(tm) |
| 15:27.15 | g0urra | *shrugs* |
| 15:27.24 | Torhal | This is what I get for skimming. |
| 15:27.32 | Torhal | IRC is TL;DR sometimes. |
| 15:28.01 | karl_w_w | i wonder if they actually will put chat back in the client |
| 15:28.10 | Maldivia | they will :) |
| 15:28.12 | g0urra | "back"? |
| 15:28.19 | karl_w_w | they might decide it's in their interest to get people logging in to chat |
| 15:28.44 | karl_w_w | apparently there was chat during closed beta g0urra |
| 15:29.02 | Maldivia | their problem right now is that their chat protocol doesn't support multiple endpoints, so having the bnet client logged in and the game logged in, and you don't know where chat messages end up |
| 15:29.29 | nevcairiel | the problem already happens when you login multiple games |
| 15:29.33 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 15:29.42 | Maldivia | and the bnet client acts like a "game" in that regard as well |
| 15:30.34 | Maldivia | g0urra: https://www.dropbox.com/s/i0siesy992pcfxl/friends.png |
| 15:30.41 | |Jelly| | makes having both wow and ragestone open at the same time interesting. Generally, all my ragestone chat goes to wow and wow to ragestone. maaaaaaddddd |
| 15:30.57 | g0urra | and.. what does that prove? I don't see any chat. |
| 15:31.33 | Maldivia | just shows the friends list, as it was in the beginning, before the removed the ability to even show it :) |
| 15:31.56 | Maldivia | didn't get any screenshots of it in action though |
| 15:33.45 | g0urra | so where did you hear from that they'll implement chat? |
| 15:34.40 | karl_w_w | hearthstone makes you rage, |Jelly|? |
| 15:34.47 | Maldivia | the fact that they've added a new protocol for it to the client and the agent very strongly suggests it |
| 15:36.03 | nicoli_s | g0urra:Maldivia knows what they are talking about :) |
| 15:36.27 | karl_w_w | seems like it would take some coordination to actually get it done |
| 15:36.44 | karl_w_w | cos I imagine all the games would have to be patched at the same time |
| 15:37.01 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/browse/28742/crop_circle_vs_helicopter.jpg |
| 15:37.10 | karl_w_w | or close to each other |
| 15:37.20 | Maldivia | karl_w_w: it will most likely coinside with Heroes beta hitting public :) |
| 15:37.24 | |Jelly| | Yes |
| 15:37.43 | Maldivia | coincide* |
| 15:39.04 | karl_w_w | welp, I guess if I ask a closed question I get a closed answer :P |
| 15:39.53 | |Jelly| | If you're referring to me, you asked a yes/no question to which I responded with a yes/no answer. :-\ |
| 15:40.25 | karl_w_w | that's what I just said :P |
| 15:41.01 | karl_w_w | oh damn it's maintenance day |
| 15:41.06 | karl_w_w | forgot about that |
| 15:43.40 | karl_w_w | good thing i have angel beats to watch |
| 15:56.47 | Arrowmaster | karl_w_w: nice |
| 15:57.13 | Arrowmaster | karl_w_w: i have the OP song as my ringtone |
| 15:58.00 | bluipodcow | Angels beating off ? |
| 15:58.11 | bluipodcow | What weird stuff u watching now ? |
| 15:58.50 | Torhal | blupervcow |
| 15:59.22 | bluipodcow | :D |
| 16:00.38 | Arrowmaster | im off to a lunch thing then a job interview |
| 16:09.05 | Ackis | bluipodcow: hey where the fuck you been for the past couple weeks? |
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| 16:19.33 | Unkle | Station. |
| 16:20.08 | bluipodcow | Mars ackis |
| 16:21.51 | TC-Work | How was it over there bluipodcow? |
| 16:22.03 | bluipodcow | Foot |
| 16:22.26 | TC-Work | Sounds exquisite. |
| 16:23.10 | bluipodcow | Ya ya goot |
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| 17:15.54 | Fisker | oh burn jleclanche |
| 17:16.03 | Fisker | I just saw the control over ignores in quassel |
| 17:27.15 | Ermad | is there way to do something like, "local one, two = { 1, 2 }" to extract a table to local variables |
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| 18:05.14 | Maldivia | unpack |
| 18:05.35 | Maldivia | lua> unpack({1,3,5}) |
| 18:07.18 | Maldivia | Ermad: but if you want to init multiple variables, you can do local one, two = 1, 2; |
| 18:09.29 | Ermad | Maldivia: thanks a lot. the table is actually another variable from somewhere else, not inline like in that example |
| 18:10.06 | Maldivia | one,two = t[1], t[2] -- could also do the trick |
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| 18:12.45 | Semlar | unpack is more expensive |
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| 18:12.51 | Maldivia | especially if you have a large table, unpacking it fully might not what you want to do, if you only need the first few entries |
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| 19:59.54 | Arrowmaster | back from recruiter, hes getting everything into the system but hes got 3 local jobs (one of which is really local, just down the road from home) and 2 in another city right now thats hes submitting my info for |
| 20:01.25 | nicoli_s | nice |
| 20:01.53 | tissle | Question: I have set up a few buttons (MyButton1-12 for example) with a texture named MyButton1Icon, then i use MyButton1:SetAttribute() - if i issue a SetTexture() to this MyButton1Icon, game will report a texture change if i ask it GetTexture - But it doesnt change icon - anyone got any clue as to why? :) |
| 20:01.55 | Cairenn | excellent |
| 20:02.50 | Unkle | Arrowmaster: Sweet! Good luck. |
| 20:03.35 | Arrowmaster | two of them are 12 hour data center shift jobs, and ones for a government agency |
| 20:04.15 | Arrowmaster | i think i finally found a recruiter that works with enough other companies to get me a great job |
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| 20:15.06 | Cairenn | smoogles Lopeppeppy |
| 20:15.10 | Lopeppeppy | |Jelly|-dude, I looked for you last week to tell you I was sending you a surprise. But it wound up being a total surprise! |
| 20:15.20 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Cairenn. Happy polar vortex day. |
| 20:15.27 | Cairenn | heh, thanks |
| 20:20.35 | Ressy | blech.. polar vortex. :( |
| 20:21.17 | Ressy | Hey Cairenn.. Someone's been leaving scarves around Ottawa with notes saying "I'm not lost! If you're stuck out in the cold, take this scarf to keep warm!" |
| 20:21.27 | Ressy | You see any of them? |
| 20:21.43 | Humbedooh | aaw |
| 20:21.52 | Ressy | https://twitter.com/lbpaints/status/425693106474741760 |
| 20:21.54 | Cairenn | Haven't seen them personally, but saw the news article about them |
| 20:21.59 | Cairenn | It's pretty awesome |
| 20:22.14 | Humbedooh | unless they're all riddles with gonorrhea, then not-so-aaw |
| 20:22.15 | Humbedooh | riddled* |
| 20:22.30 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 20:22.50 | Fisker | drops the beat on Lopeppeppy |
| 20:24.26 | Lopeppeppy | If a scarf has the clap, you're wrapping the wrong body parts with it. I'm just sayin'. |
| 20:27.04 | Torhal | reprograms Humbedooh to behave like a Clapper. |
| 20:28.24 | nicoli_s | Lopeppeppy: the polar vortex is just a liberal conspiracy |
| 20:28.38 | Torhal | Quiet, hippy! |
| 20:28.38 | Humbedooh | transforms Torhal to binary and sends him to Ankh Morpork via the Clacks |
| 20:28.59 | Torhal | hands Humbedooh over to nicoli_s for reverse-engineering. |
| 20:29.28 | Lopeppeppy | Mean! :) |
| 20:31.52 | alestane | snuggles up against Lopeppeppy. |
| 20:31.52 | Fisker | want me to slap him? |
| 20:32.18 | Lopeppeppy | No, they're just being normal. |
| 20:34.55 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 20:35.04 | Fisker | I wish I were Norman |
| 20:35.10 | Fisker | or normal |
| 20:35.16 | Fisker | mostly normal |
| 20:38.55 | Fisker | what about you Lopeppeppy |
| 20:41.02 | Arrowmaster | Humbedooh: i dont think the Clacks uses binary, at least not the movie version |
| 20:41.30 | Humbedooh | Arrowmaster: okay, I converted Torhal to base-32 then |
| 20:41.50 | Arrowmaster | id say base-16 |
| 20:42.05 | Arrowmaster | i think it was a 4x4 grid |
| 20:42.18 | TC-Work | I thought the clacks used a modified morse code. |
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| 20:46.24 | Arrowmaster | typical capcom naming http://youtu.be/u90nv3bfuB0 |
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| 21:17.29 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, no, I am very not normal. |
| 21:31.29 | Arrowmaster | ive got too much going on, xbox is download games, laptop is downloading movies and tv shows while moving old movies and tv shows to external drive |
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| 21:38.28 | nicoli_s | which xbox game? |
| 21:56.33 | Arrowmaster | nicoli_s: i redeemed my download codes for the res evil 6 archives edition i got on sale for black friday |
| 21:58.48 | Arrowmaster | wow i was not expecting this i have two almost equal data center jobs with openings, i think ill prioritize the one for the major legal record firm instead of the shoe manufacturer |
| 22:00.05 | jleclanche | Fisker: ? |
| 22:00.13 | Dagmar | Probably a good idea. The legal firm will be more serious about spending money |
| 22:00.46 | Dagmar | N.O.T.? |
| 22:00.50 | Dagmar | wrong chan |
| 22:01.07 | Fisker | yes jleclanche |
| 22:01.19 | nicoli_s | Arrowmaster: have you played that one yet? its the only RE i havent played yet been meaning to check it out |
| 22:01.20 | Fisker | look at those ignore masks |
| 22:01.26 | Arrowmaster | nicoli_s: no |
| 22:03.11 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: and now im being told the shoe manufacturer would put me on their payroll and benefits after 6 months but the legal record firm (two part name that rhymes and first part is a japanese car manufacturer) would keep me as a contractor on the contracting companies benefits |
| 22:04.17 | Arrowmaster | but the shoe store would want me to work friday and saturday nights, this is hard |
| 22:04.38 | nicoli_s | ouch thatd be rough |
| 22:05.36 | nevcairiel | contractor has worse benfits i guess? :d |
| 22:06.03 | Arrowmaster | most contractors have zero benefits |
| 22:06.28 | Arrowmaster | but they are offering medical through this firm but im not sure how good it is |
| 22:06.48 | Arrowmaster | trying to make sense of the pdf now |
| 22:07.31 | nevcairiel | working in off-hours in a data center position is somewhat to be expected tbh |
| 22:07.43 | nevcairiel | its usually not like its every week |
| 22:08.51 | jleclanche | Fisker: what about them? |
| 22:09.22 | Fisker | they are useful |
| 22:11.14 | Arrowmaster | well the legal records firm wants Sun-Tues with alternating Wed for 6am-6:30pm, shoe company wants Thurs-Sun 5pm-5am but says they can be flexible (thats 4 days a week but really they want 7 days every 14 and didnt say what the alternating was) |
| 22:12.07 | Arrowmaster | and the shoe company is a 5minute drive vs 35minute for the other firm |
| 22:13.46 | Arrowmaster | yeah i only see mention of windows os in the shoe company job description, the other one has more room to learn so it remains my first choice |
| 22:14.27 | nevcairiel | Just don't cancel them right away under the assumption the other is going to take you |
| 22:14.35 | Arrowmaster | oh i know |
| 22:14.56 | Arrowmaster | i replyed and told him to put me in for both and ill decide later |
| 22:15.41 | nevcairiel | Information can also be rather weirdly presented in such short text blobs, usually talking to the future bosses can clear up so many things |
| 22:16.03 | Arrowmaster | yeah id like to ask what they use at each place |
| 22:32.52 | Semlar-Laptop | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:33.42 | Dagmar | SUPER OMGOPTIMIZED |
| 22:34.24 | Semlar-Laptop | this is a slight improevment |
| 22:34.35 | Semlar-Laptop | improvement |
| 22:34.35 | Dagmar | WTF is with those first bars? |
| 22:34.39 | Semlar-Laptop | my SSD |
| 22:34.41 | Dagmar | Are they teste over a loop interface? |
| 22:34.59 | Dagmar | I don't get why the "up to" and little white line are there |
| 22:35.20 | Semlar-Laptop | i think 540 and 520 are what it's rated for |
| 22:35.25 | Dagmar | Ah. |
| 22:35.32 | Dagmar | Something's fuckin' up with your other disks tho |
| 22:35.50 | Semlar-Laptop | it's a pretty old drive |
| 22:36.03 | Semlar-Laptop | the difference is a little ridiculous though |
| 22:36.03 | Dagmar | Yeah I'd say so... but 104 IOPS is kind of crap |
| 22:36.51 | Semlar-Laptop | "RAPID" mode on the SSD is making it way faster apparently |
| 22:37.26 | Semlar-Laptop | i think it utilizes the RAM somehow |
| 22:38.14 | Semlar-Laptop | well, now i get to reinstall everything |
| 22:39.21 | Semlar-Laptop | should i copy my warcraft folder or just download it |
| 22:39.37 | Dagmar | It would be kind of cheating for it to use ram to buffer operations (especially sequential ones) when it's _clearly_ not doing so for your spindledisks |
| 22:39.45 | nevcairiel | rapid mode is awesome |
| 22:40.24 | Unkle | Semlar-Laptop: I just copy mine. Reinstalling from the download takes forever. |
| 22:41.23 | nevcairiel | and yes, its "just" a cache in memory, however you can't easily apply it to every drive without replacing the default device driver |
| 22:41.34 | Semlar-Laptop | i'm pretty sure it would take me a lot longer to download it, anyway |
| 22:41.49 | Semlar-Laptop | i only have like a 10mbps connection |
| 22:42.02 | Dagmar | nevcairiel: Well that's _really_ dodgy to be involving it in a benchmark then |
| 22:42.14 | Dagmar | There's no way the 194 iop writes are being cached |
| 22:42.25 | nevcairiel | of course not, since thats the hdd |
| 22:42.26 | Maldivia | ohh, HS hit open beta |
| 22:42.53 | nevcairiel | benchmarking a ssd against a hdd will always look ridicoulus |
| 22:43.01 | Dagmar | I guess that'll let the derelicts and recent coma survivors get in |
| 22:43.03 | nicoli_s | i cant wait for HS to launch on ipad |
| 22:43.12 | Dagmar | nevcairiel: Yeah but those figures are crap for a spindle drive |
| 22:43.24 | nevcairiel | what do i know what crap drive Semlar-Laptop has there |
| 22:43.37 | Dagmar | ....and that disk according to spec at least has an 8Mb cache on it |
| 22:44.00 | Dagmar | I wanna say it should be a bit faster, but I can't remember which fucking machine I still have one of those in |
| 22:46.39 | nevcairiel | I get 190/167mb/s read/write, and 500/260 iops read/write on my hdd, even without rapid mode thats only a tiny fraction against the SSD, especially in IOPS |
| 22:47.00 | Dagmar | This is why I'm saying even for a 120Gb drive that seems a little off |
| 22:47.18 | Semlar-Laptop | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:47.25 | Dagmar | ...although you've got some caching going on there or I don't want to know how much you paid for that disk nev. |
| 22:48.03 | nevcairiel | its no special disc, and no special caching |
| 22:48.04 | Dagmar | 167mb/s on a spindledisk is fucking insane if it's sustained |
| 22:48.11 | nevcairiel | probably not over the entire disc |
| 22:48.32 | Semlar-Laptop | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.52 | nevcairiel | apparently the total disc average is 145 read and 138 write |
| 22:50.20 | nevcairiel | too bad it doesnt have min/max in this review |
| 22:51.40 | Dagmar | Hmm... maybe I should benchmark my goddamn SATA disks sometime |
| 22:51.40 | nevcairiel | in any case, RAPID mode is pretty good, even in real-world benchmarks not performed by samsungs own tool, it gives a healthy boost. If you can actually feel that when using the PC ....who knows |
| 22:52.30 | Dagmar | It just occurs to me that I've beaten up every PATA disk but stopped doing that after I started getting SATA disks |
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| 23:03.55 | Dagmar | Ooh... Backblaze pulled a Google but names names. |
| 23:03.57 | Dagmar | Hooboy |
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| 23:05.17 | Unkle | Dagmar: Link? |
| 23:05.31 | Dagmar | Right at the top of Slashdot but http://blog.backblaze.com/2014/01/21/what-hard-drive-should-i-buy/ |
| 23:05.51 | Dagmar | AMusingly their failure rates are about the same as mine, which is why I don't fucking buy Seagate anymore |
| 23:08.21 | Amarande | Dagmar: ew, Seagate |
| 23:08.48 | Amarande | I went through a year or so of hell thanks to Seagate :| |
| 23:09.09 | Amarande | or at least, a year or so of having to reinstall Windows and applications on a more or less random basis |
| 23:09.18 | Amarande | which might actually make hell seem pleasant by comparison heh |
| 23:10.41 | Unkle | I use some larger seagate drives for large file storage. They've served me well for a couple of years. But they're infrequently accessed. |
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| 23:11.31 | nevcairiel | i have one seagate in this box for large blob storage (mostly just the game installs), any actual data is on my SSDs and backed up |
| 23:12.09 | Amarande | nevcairiel: ouch |
| 23:12.43 | Amarande | that seems like a recipe for random game crashes and hard-to-diagnose-that-you-need-to-redownload-the-whole-thing issues when the game installs get corrupted |
| 23:12.55 | Amarande | I had to redownload LOTRO thanks to just such an issue |
| 23:13.07 | Unkle | Yeah - most of my frequently used stuff is on SSD, and backed up to a USB 3TB disk. I need a better backup system than what Windows 7 Pro has built in, but I'm lazy an haven't gotten around to it. |
| 23:13.19 | Amarande | after I got my SSD and found that the copy that I had downloaded to the Seagate and backed up on USB key was corrupt |
| 23:13.38 | Amarande | (actually Samsung, but it was one of those Samsungs that was really a rebadged Barracuda) |
| 23:15.03 | nevcairiel | the high failure rate they show for seagate is really from the older smaller models, which did have quite a few issues. I have a recent disc, and i replace them usually every 2 years or so, so i don't expect any failure. You'll never be safe if you expect it to fail :P |
| 23:15.36 | Amarande | nevcairiel: I had had random data corruption failures throughout the time I was using that Seagate |
| 23:15.55 | Amarande | irritatingly sporadic to the point where I couldn't even track them down with disk tools reliably and kept tending to blame the RAM |
| 23:16.10 | nevcairiel | then you're a moron not to replace it the first time it happened |
| 23:16.21 | Amarande | however, it's pretty definitely established now that I *only* ever had issues when *that drive* had been installed |
| 23:16.47 | Amarande | nevcairiel: the issues were the kind that easily could be attributed to other hardware, and like I said, no matter how much I tried to test with disk tools, I couldn't elicit an error there |
| 23:17.01 | nevcairiel | no tolerance with any storage, first sign of trouble it gets replaced |
| 23:17.02 | Amarande | it was the perfect poster child for "works just fine when the mechanic's looking at it" :P |
| 23:17.20 | Semlar-Laptop | in my experience hard drives either fail early or work for years |
| 23:17.44 | Amarande | well usually when you get strange crashes etc. you tend to first look towards the RAM, not towards the hard drive that's passing SMART and every bad blocks type test |
| 23:18.03 | Amarande | I perhaps should have suspected the drive though from the *consistency* of the crashes |
| 23:19.00 | Amarande | probably didn't help that I was thrown off the trail by the fact that my previous motherboard actually *did* show RAM related problems |
| 23:19.14 | nevcairiel | speaking of storage, got 3 more old HDDs in the file server that are running 2.5 years now, should replace them soon |
| 23:19.23 | Amarande | I was hit pretty badly with the unlucky stick in the past two and a half years or so with hardware :| |
| 23:19.48 | Amarande | I think I've had more problems in that time frame than I've had throughout the entire 15 years or so I've been building my own PCs :| |
| 23:20.36 | Amarande | let's see ... during that time I think the only actual hardware problem I had had was a bad RAM stick that was eventually tracked down and replaced |
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| 23:21.01 | Amarande | since 2011 well ... first there was that giant effing snowstorm in CT that managed to somehow fry my mobo while the power was going out, so I had to upgrade the entire RAM/CPU/mobo |
| 23:21.06 | Amarande | then the mobo I ordered for that was DOA |
| 23:21.29 | Amarande | then I upgraded the hard drive in 2012 to the Drive From Hell, experienced all kinds of issues that at that time appeared to be the RAM |
| 23:21.37 | Amarande | so I tried another mobo, and it turned out to have two dead RAM slots |
| 23:22.02 | Amarande | recently, I had a blu-ray drive die in about three or four months, too, and scratch discs in the process |
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| 23:59.03 | Neffi | <Semlar-Laptop> http://i.imgur.com/japdGVI.png neffi.. <- wat? |
