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| 00:03.00 | Gnarfoz | random UAC prompt because battle.net decided NOW is a good time to update |
| 00:03.04 | Gnarfoz | when will they fucking lear |
| 00:03.05 | Gnarfoz | n |
| 00:04.31 | Stanzilla | :)= |
| 00:04.34 | Stanzilla | in the bug tracker for ages |
| 00:04.39 | Stanzilla | no one cares \o/ |
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| 00:08.19 | kd3 | hm. mine complains that it can't talk to the agent. that's annoying |
| 00:14.43 | Amarande | Gnarfoz: the fun thing is antivirus/firewall software that forces you to re-confirm games every time they update |
| 00:14.50 | Amarande | it's why I got rid of Trend many years ago :) |
| 00:15.24 | Amarande | (also, because back then computers were slow enough that the forced swap back from fullscreen game to desktop mode for the confirmation dialogue was pain) |
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| 00:27.14 | Neffi | shoots Semlar with a BlasTech Industries E-11 blaster. |
| 00:35.06 | Semlar | no neffi |
| 00:37.04 | Semlar | neffi i figured out i can just resize the nameplates on mouseover so i can do it in combat without the modifier stuffs |
| 00:37.45 | Semlar | clearly i need to do more reading about secure frames |
| 00:38.40 | Neffi | hmm |
| 00:38.58 | Neffi | Doing the modifier stuff isn't a bad idea. I'm hitting modifiers all the time in combat |
| 00:39.29 | Semlar | yeah but i can fix the clickable area whenever you mouse over a nameplate so that makes it much better |
| 00:39.34 | Neffi | Oh wait, mouseover resizing would alleviate all issue |
| 00:39.43 | Neffi | Yeah, that took a second to register. I just woke up |
| 00:40.37 | Semlar | this is what i'm using right now http://pastebin.com/skF1XFmD |
| 00:41.02 | Semlar | and i'm sure there's much to be learned |
| 00:41.11 | Neffi | I'm gonna use that code. I'll credit you |
| 00:41.16 | Semlar | thief! |
| 00:41.18 | Semlar | THIEF!!! |
| 00:41.22 | Neffi | =( |
| 00:41.26 | Semlar | oh alright |
| 00:41.37 | Semlar | if it's you.. |
| 00:41.48 | Neffi | I never knew I could resize the frame that reliably so I always didnt bother |
| 00:42.10 | Semlar | yeah apparently you can do all kinds of questionable things with secure state drivers |
| 00:42.29 | Neffi | pairs(newtable(self:GetParent():GetChildren())) <- is this really necessary? |
| 00:42.38 | Semlar | it sort of is |
| 00:42.52 | Neffi | You can't store a reference to it? |
| 00:43.18 | Semlar | possibly through SetAttribute, but it wouldn't make much difference |
| 00:43.43 | Semlar | you don't have access to much in the restricted environment |
| 00:44.01 | Stanzilla | Neffi: are you even playing atm? |
| 00:44.01 | Neffi | Isn't that the point of attributes? |
| 00:44.25 | Semlar | well, it wouldn't save much doing self:GetAttribute('WorldFrame') for example instead of self:GetParent() |
| 00:44.25 | Neffi | Stanzilla: I've got a trial going while I work on some code, but not actually playing atm |
| 00:44.41 | Neffi | It would save a table creation and a loop |
| 00:44.42 | Semlar | i'm not entirely sure you can store references like that anyway |
| 00:44.46 | Semlar | no it wouldn't |
| 00:45.10 | Semlar | if you mean can you store a list of nameplates absolutely not |
| 00:46.13 | Neffi | Oh, nevermind. I thought scaler was a child of the nameplates |
| 00:46.30 | Semlar | it's a child of worldframe |
| 00:46.53 | Semlar | when you mouse over any unit this is run |
| 00:47.42 | Semlar | you might be able to store the number of children and compare it to the last time it was ran i don't know for sure |
| 00:48.12 | Semlar | nope |
| 00:48.25 | Semlar | GetNumChildren isn't something you have access to |
| 00:48.40 | Amarande | yeah, it's rude to ask someone you don't know how many children they have :) |
| 00:48.50 | Semlar | >_> |
| 00:49.10 | Semlar | you can see what you can call here neffikins http://wowpedia.org/RestrictedEnvironment |
| 00:50.21 | Semlar | let me know if you find a way to make it better |
| 00:50.37 | Semlar | i'mma be back in a bit |
| 00:50.45 | Neffi | ok |
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| 00:51.40 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: http://us.battle.net/en/forum/topic/10430492967 add your senf |
| 00:51.46 | Eol | Good evening guys. Wondering if the following type of application would be possible: |
| 00:52.17 | Eol | I want to create something called like 'RaidNanny' that would be able to display who everyone was targetting, what spell they were casting, if they're casting a spell on a mob but didn't keep their dot up, etc |
| 00:52.37 | Eol | Is Targetting info only available only for my focus or target? |
| 00:52.59 | Semlar | you can see the raid's targets |
| 00:53.19 | Eol | what about spellcasts? |
| 00:53.23 | Semlar | yes |
| 00:53.51 | Eol | Ok, so what Im proposing is technically possible? (if it doesn't exist already) |
| 00:54.15 | Neffi | yes' |
| 00:54.31 | Stanzilla | most sane person would tell you to use a logging website though |
| 00:54.48 | Eol | yes, but a logging site won't allow me to call people out on their crap in the middle of combat |
| 00:55.13 | Semlar | is this just for seeing what they're targeting or do you want to be able to click on the frame and target that unit |
| 00:55.25 | Eol | i just want to know who's screwing up by not switching to MCs, etc |
| 00:55.34 | Eol | people who are focusing on garrosh trash mobs instead of him |
| 00:55.47 | Semlar | if it's just for viewing what's going on it would be no problem |
| 00:55.53 | Stanzilla | most tooltip addons can show you how in the raid is targetting the unit |
| 00:55.53 | Eol | yeah, it's just for viewing |
| 00:56.11 | Eol | yeah, but i sorta need a concise view of everyone all at the same time |
| 00:56.13 | Semlar | i think he wants an overview of everything not just one mob |
| 00:57.14 | Amarande | Eol: ah, you want an addon where you can click to shout out "you idiot" raid warnings in-game to members? |
| 00:57.23 | Eol | well, i don't even need to click |
| 00:57.30 | Eol | I can just glance, see it and yell at 'em in vent |
| 00:57.50 | Amarande | could be useful. especially if this net neutrality ruling results in vent starting to suck at some point :| |
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| 00:58.22 | Eol | Well, i know there are a lot of 'protected' things, so I would go as far as I can before i run into those issues |
| 00:58.23 | Semlar | i recall at least one addon that showed all the raid targets on their raid frames but i don't know if that's exactly what you want |
| 00:58.52 | Eol | i'll do a little research before i write code. |
| 00:59.01 | Eol | What's the best place to go for APIs and such? |
| 00:59.04 | Amarande | from what I saw on Ars, there are already noises coming from Comcast's way apparently at least that they want to have their own premium voice chat service and have it operate with bandwidth priority over competing services |
| 00:59.13 | bluspacecow | *puts Semlar's head in his mouth* |
| 00:59.14 | Amarande | that doesn't sound very good for the future of Vent, especially if other ISPs start following suit |
| 00:59.18 | Semlar | there's wowprogramming.com and wowpedia.org |
| 00:59.18 | Eol | ARs? |
| 00:59.25 | Semlar | bluspacecow: that's unhygenic |
| 00:59.25 | Amarande | Eol: Ars Technica |
| 00:59.28 | Eol | ah |
| 00:59.38 | bluspacecow | Semlar : Oh ok |
| 00:59.45 | bluspacecow | *boils it first* |
| 00:59.47 | bluspacecow | :3 |
| 00:59.48 | Amarande | the big tech news this week is that the net neutrality regulations were declared invalid :| |
| 00:59.49 | bluspacecow | J/k |
| 01:00.13 | Semlar | now i need to go take a shower |
| 01:00.15 | Amarande | (not that net neutrality *itself* is invalid, but apparently the FCC bungled it and failed to properly follow the rule-creation rules so their rules are no good) |
| 01:00.21 | bluspacecow | Eol : please respecify your enquiry |
| 01:00.45 | bluspacecow | info on the World of Warcraft API ? Or on a Library EG wowace2 , wowace3 , semalrlikesporn |
| 01:01.09 | Amarande | but yeah, if ISPs start making their own voice chats and exalting them above others, it might be painful for raiding guilds |
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| 01:01.13 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKn6gV4Hf04 rofl that cart at the end |
| 01:01.21 | Amarande | depending on how bad the third-party voice chat quality ends up being by comparison |
| 01:01.38 | Amarande | if it gets down to marble-mouth levels, you practically might have to have your whole raid group on the same ISP in some cases, I would imagine |
| 01:02.17 | Eol | I dunno, I guess the best place to look for stuff if I want to write addons. ARe most people using libraries nowadays? |
| 01:02.34 | Eol | Not sure if the libraries have any sort of "eventing architecture" or do i just use basic LUA or whatever the WoW stuff is |
| 01:02.37 | Amarande | Eol: there are a few standard libraries that tend to be used by a lot of addons, like Ace |
| 01:02.48 | Amarande | primarily because it's easier not to reinvent the wheel :) |
| 01:02.59 | Eol | Yeah, I agree and would probably use libraries |
| 01:03.36 | Amarande | also the libraries mean that a lot of stuff gets fixed on a team basis when Blizzard breaks something |
| 01:03.43 | Amarande | while if something in your own code breaks, you're on your own |
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| 01:04.22 | Amarande | keep in mind, we've got WoD coming up, which means another round of broken addons needing fixing :) |
| 01:04.40 | Eol | Yeah, it may be a little late in the expansion cycle to develop this |
| 01:05.53 | Amarande | btw, is there any estimated release for WoD yet or are we still on "soon"? |
| 01:06.00 | fewyn | not even soon |
| 01:06.06 | fewyn | there's another pvp season |
| 01:06.10 | fewyn | that's now scheduled |
| 01:06.21 | Amarande | If I was Blizzard, I would probably be trying to target early-mid November as the release date for WoD |
| 01:06.32 | kd3 | have they actually said "yeah, s15 is actually going to happen" or still "we're still considering it"? |
| 01:06.40 | fewyn | yeah it's happening |
| 01:06.47 | fewyn | seen dev tweets about it |
| 01:07.06 | Amarande | logic for early-mid November: there aren't any major world events then, the next one is Pilgrim's Bounty and even that's a fairly small affair compared to Hallow's End or Winter Veil |
| 01:07.09 | fewyn | we've probably got at least 6 months of siege left |
| 01:07.16 | fewyn | i'm already pretty tired of it |
| 01:07.17 | fewyn | tbqh |
| 01:07.18 | g0urra | but there's not supposed to be another patch |
| 01:07.27 | fewyn | there will be a patch |
| 01:07.32 | fewyn | but it will only be pvp season |
| 01:07.43 | Amarande | also, it'd be a release a little before the holiday season, which gives them time to fix up the critical release bugs in time for folks to get the expansion for Christmas |
| 01:07.45 | fewyn | i guess? |
| 01:07.47 | Eol | Well, March is Diablo 3 expansion. I highly doubt they'd release wow around then |
| 01:07.53 | kd3 | hell, they haven't begun to mention anything about f&f, let alone beta. we're >6mo out if every last expansion dev cycle is anything to go by |
| 01:07.55 | g0urra | pvp and balancing |
| 01:07.59 | Amarande | and yeah, some folks had suggested this spring, but that's the D3 expansion |
| 01:08.08 | Eol | So That leaves us May - July. |
| 01:08.18 | fewyn | i just think it's really bad to leave us in siege for so long |
| 01:08.21 | fewyn | it just makes me so sad |
| 01:08.33 | Eol | My guess is that they'll do another patch and make siege cross-realmable |
| 01:08.40 | fewyn | siege already is |
| 01:08.46 | Eol | norm at least |
| 01:08.52 | Amarande | I still wonder if the Act V final boss is going to be Adria in some way, shape or form. |
| 01:08.55 | kd3 | how long were we in 4.3? 3.3? 2.4? |
| 01:09.06 | fewyn | were had lich king for a year |
| 01:09.11 | fewyn | we had* |
| 01:09.19 | fewyn | that's the only one i remembered |
| 01:09.23 | fewyn | and i hated it |
| 01:09.23 | Amarande | kd3: 2.4 didn't last all that long, that was one of the *problems* with 2.4 |
| 01:09.23 | Eol | they extended wotlk with some new content with the ruby sanctum |
| 01:09.34 | fewyn | halion doesn't count |
| 01:09.40 | Amarande | because unlike wrath where they just put in one extra dragon raid to throw us a content bone |
| 01:09.41 | fewyn | that took a whole 5 minutes~ |
| 01:09.48 | Amarande | 2.4 added a huge major lore-relevant thing |
| 01:09.59 | fewyn | well it'd be nice for them to do that |
| 01:10.01 | Amarande | and then barely gave people any time to do anything with it before it was time to move on to WotLK |
| 01:10.03 | fewyn | but no new raid content for a year |
| 01:10.05 | fewyn | ugh |
| 01:10.17 | g0urra | 4.3 was 9 months.. |
| 01:10.18 | Eol | i need enough time to find a garrosh team capable of doing heroic gary so i get a chance at the mount :P |
| 01:10.19 | Amarande | didn't really help that there weren't any easy catch up mechanisms like Wrath and later have generally featured |
| 01:10.38 | Amarande | and that you basically needed close to BiS EVERYTHING in order to get through sunwell in one piece, so only guilds that were already fully progressed really got to do it |
| 01:10.43 | g0urra | 3.3 10 months |
| 01:11.01 | kd3 | 4.3 was from nov 29 to aug 28 |
| 01:11.15 | g0urra | yup |
| 01:11.56 | fewyn | that's still way too long compared to the fast cycles |
| 01:11.58 | g0urra | are there any mmorpg coming out except eots? |
| 01:11.58 | fewyn | of this expansion |
| 01:12.06 | g0urra | teso* |
| 01:12.07 | fewyn | wildstar |
| 01:12.09 | g0urra | I never get that right |
| 01:12.13 | kd3 | 3.3 was dec 8 to nov 23 (4.0.3) dec 7 (cata release) |
| 01:12.14 | fewyn | supposedly sometime this year |
| 01:12.20 | fewyn | i bet there's some smaller ones coming out |
| 01:12.25 | fewyn | archage i think from trion? |
| 01:12.38 | Amarande | LOTRO's latest expansion just hit not too long ago |
| 01:13.16 | Amarande | interesting about their mechanics, too. where WoW moved away from talent trees with Mists, LOTRO actually abandoned the old class trait system and moved to ... talent trees |
| 01:13.24 | kd3 | 5.4 came out sep 10, so we've got until august at the earliest |
| 01:13.31 | Amarande | I'm still not sure why Blizzard decided talent trees were bad |
| 01:13.53 | Amarande | SW:TOR uses talent trees, LOTRO actually converted *from* a trait slot system *to* talent trees ... |
| 01:14.00 | Gethe | ther weren't interesting |
| 01:14.01 | Amarande | not sure what FF14 uses |
| 01:14.09 | Gethe | they* |
| 01:14.11 | Amarande | wouldn't be surprised if it's talent trees, though |
| 01:14.22 | kd3 | because 4/5 on some talent, only giving 80% chance, when the 20% chance of not getting it was pretty atrocious... |
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| 01:14.33 | Amarande | well, they did tend to get a little too cookie-cutter |
| 01:14.35 | kd3 | because the constant rejuggling to avoid broken spec loadouts |
| 01:14.35 | g0urra | http://www.trionworlds.com/en/games/archeage/ |
| 01:14.54 | g0urra | Amarande: they don't use talents |
| 01:15.12 | g0urra | in FFXIV that is |
| 01:15.18 | Gethe | wildstar uses talents |
| 01:15.18 | Amarande | Which is not really an issue with LOTRO in particular, because the legendary items system in LOTRO all but prevents there from being a concrete set of BiS ANYTHING, pretty much |
| 01:15.18 | kd3 | because, despite how I used to play frostfire, it's entirely too possible to fuck up a selection and play atrociously |
| 01:15.34 | Amarande | kd3: heh, yeah, I still remember that from Diablo II |
| 01:15.41 | Amarande | my highest level character ever in D2 ... totally sucked |
| 01:15.43 | Gethe | its pre sented differently but it's talents |
| 01:15.56 | Amarande | because at that point I was too new to the game to really grok the talent system very well, so I had a terrible build |
| 01:16.17 | Amarande | (yet, that was the only character that I ever had get past 90, go figure ... yay cow runs) |
| 01:16.36 | Amarande | mind you, until a fairly late patch, D2 also didn't let you respec *at all* |
| 01:16.50 | kd3 | http://wowpedia.org/Expansion#How_long_until_the_next_expansion.3F |
| 01:17.06 | Amarande | but yeah, I can see LOTRO benefiting from talent trees more than most other MMOs |
| 01:17.42 | g0urra | huh, release date for BC was announced before beta |
| 01:18.11 | Amarande | because two of your item slots at higher (50+) levels are Legendary items with randomised attributes, and what else is best heavily depends on what attributes you have on your legendaries |
| 01:18.52 | Amarande | unlike normal MMOs where all your items have essentially fixed stats, so you can theorycraft out a cookie cutter build that basically makes having a choice not really be a choice |
| 01:19.40 | Amarande | (okay, SW:TOR has moddable items, but those are basically to be seen as a combination of 4 or 5 standard MMO items in a single slot, so it's not really a big difference) |
| 01:21.59 | g0urra | anyone good at js here? |
| 01:24.04 | Semlar | i know javascript, does that count |
| 01:26.31 | g0urra | what, you mean that you know javascript exists? |
| 01:26.59 | Dewin | I write stuff using jquery, but I don't profess to be good at it. What's the question? |
| 01:27.00 | Semlar | i know javascript i just rarely use it |
| 01:27.24 | g0urra | I'm trying to find out why I can't get this getElementById to work |
| 01:27.34 | Semlar | what are you doing |
| 01:28.02 | Semlar | or rather what's the code that doesn't work |
| 01:28.36 | g0urra | the script randomly generates the adress to a site (fetched from an array), and then it's supposed to put that in a div |
| 01:28.49 | g0urra | js: http://pastebin.com/2bWd5yNR |
| 01:28.57 | g0urra | html: http://pastebin.com/wxX6YqxC |
| 01:29.35 | Semlar | well you have a literal string there you're setting the html to |
| 01:29.43 | Dewin | You're trying to set te HTML of an image tag... wait, what? |
| 01:30.08 | Dewin | Yeah. You probably are looking for something more like document.getElementById("image").setAttribute("src", url) |
| 01:30.22 | Semlar | i think he just wants to put in the text of the address |
| 01:30.35 | Dewin | oh wait it's a div |
| 01:30.37 | Semlar | but he has quotes around images[randomnumber] |
| 01:30.51 | Dewin | too tired to pay attention properly. :-p |
| 01:31.42 | Dewin | But yeah, you are using literal quotes, and IIRC innerHTML isn't technically standards compliant though I think it is compatible with every browser out there for obvious reasons. |
| 01:32.05 | Dewin | Also, that code will almost never select the 5th image |
| 01:32.14 | g0urra | I tried both ' and " |
| 01:32.16 | g0urra | neither works |
| 01:32.20 | Dewin | you don't want either |
| 01:32.21 | Semlar | there shouldn't be quotes |
| 01:32.50 | Semlar | but it would be obvious if that were the problem because it would be displaying literally "images[randomnumber]" in the div |
| 01:33.19 | g0urra | removed it, still not working. tried with both <div id="image"></div> and the <img id="image"> |
| 01:33.19 | Dewin | Is the script even running? |
| 01:33.47 | g0urra | yeah. evidently if I use document.write(images[randomnumber]) |
| 01:33.49 | Dewin | You define a function, I don't se it called anywhere. And it needs to not be called until the document is loaded, otherwise the div won't exist for it to manipulate yet. |
| 01:34.27 | Semlar | yeah are you actually calling the function at some point |
| 01:34.58 | g0urra | you mean with <script>image();</script>? yeah, I've tried that. still not working. |
| 01:35.14 | Dewin | Before or after the document is fully loaded? |
| 01:35.15 | Semlar | nah because this code works |
| 01:35.38 | g0urra | tried both in head and body |
| 01:35.50 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:36.03 | Semlar | i'm not going to format that |
| 01:36.17 | Semlar | i just changed the <a> link to execute the image function |
| 01:37.06 | Dewin | yeah. Quick and dirty way: do <body onload="image();"> (note: the naming here could really stand to be improved |
| 01:37.07 | g0urra | .. |
| 01:37.13 | Semlar | do you want this to actually display an image? |
| 01:37.18 | Semlar | because that's not what your code does |
| 01:37.19 | g0urra | yes. |
| 01:37.30 | Semlar | okay |
| 01:37.54 | Dewin | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:37.58 | Dewin | Oh, and it'll need to be a <img> |
| 01:38.26 | Dewin | .innerHTML just sets what's between the begin and end tags, it doesn't affect attributes. |
| 01:39.30 | g0urra | thank you so much for your help Dewin, it was the body onload and setAttribute that fixed it |
| 01:39.44 | Semlar | :l |
| 01:39.54 | Dewin | hey, Semlar helped just as much. |
| 01:39.57 | g0urra | and you too, Semlar, of course |
| 01:40.02 | Semlar | ^_^ |
| 01:40.34 | g0urra | but Dewin gave more or less the answers I was looking for :p |
| 01:41.16 | g0urra | although why the teacher wanted me to use document.getElementById instead of document.write for something as simple.. meh |
| 01:41.30 | Dewin | g0urra: Because document.write is not standards compliant. |
| 01:41.34 | Dewin | Neither is innerHTML |
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| 01:41.52 | Semlar | you're just changing the source of the image not trying to write anything |
| 01:42.42 | Dewin | (though admittedly there aren't any particularly effective alternatives to innerHTML if you really are trying to programatically create a lot of elements.) |
| 01:43.06 | Dewin | I mean, jquery makes it easier but it still gets really wordy. |
| 01:48.42 | g0urra | heh. apparently innerHTML is allowed |
| 01:50.20 | Semlar | you could use innerhtml to write the entire img tag |
| 01:50.45 | Semlar | is this a class on javascript? |
| 01:51.01 | g0urra | yeah. although in the next assignment it's basically the same, except text, which I figured out with innerhtml |
| 01:52.06 | Semlar | at some point you might have to navigate the dom and create nodes manually without it |
| 01:52.25 | Semlar | it's probably more proper |
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| 02:02.42 | Sintacks | anyone else have a bug with the chat config frame on the global channels thing not showing channels and their check boxes .... |
| 02:03.25 | g0urra | well, that's one less thing that'll keep my sleepless tonight |
| 02:04.17 | Sintacks | using /fstack, the frames/buttons exist, but aren't visable |
| 02:04.40 | Semlar | possibly a frame level issue |
| 02:05.23 | Semlar | i think it's pretty common from taint but i don't know exactly what causes it |
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| 02:05.53 | Semlar | do they come back when you reload your ui |
| 02:06.20 | Sintacks | yes |
| 02:07.09 | Semlar | one of your addons is probably tainting something at some point and then the frame isn't bothering to adjust the frame levels properly |
| 02:08.07 | Semlar | i would guess it has something to do with the stupid dropdown menus |
| 02:08.12 | Semlar | but who knows |
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| 02:53.03 | kd3 | hm. warlords info: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/12426481 |
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| 02:57.26 | Arrowmaster | ah ha no wonder youtube was so slow, it seems months ago when i changed my home subnet i didnt change my firewall rule that blocked time warners throttled youtube mirror |
| 02:57.48 | kd3 | get the youtube center addon, turn off dash playback |
| 02:58.12 | Arrowmaster | that doesnt help when you are using the mirror so slow that even 144p has to buffer |
| 02:59.07 | Arrowmaster | one line added to my routers firewall startup rule fixes it |
| 02:59.09 | Arrowmaster | iptables -I FORWARD -s 192.168.40.0/24 -d 173.194.55.0/24 -j REJECT |
| 03:01.21 | kd3 | hm. I wonder if wine's going to change the default os version away from xp soon? |
| 03:01.56 | kd3 | just ran blizz's beta profile thing in a clean wineprefix and said xp 64bit sp2 |
| 03:07.12 | Amarande | ... they provide a mirror *and then throttle it*? |
| 03:07.15 | Amarande | wtf |
| 03:07.17 | Amarande | that sounds dumb |
| 03:07.27 | Amarande | if they want to throttle it, why not just throttle the original server :S |
| 03:07.47 | Amarande | especially now that the FCC bungled it up and the net neutrality rules got busted :| |
| 03:07.52 | kd3 | you're acting like ISPs make sense |
| 03:08.11 | Arrowmaster | time warners been doing this for years |
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| 04:15.09 | Arrowmaster | somebody went shopping today and brought home donuts, cookies, and some pastries and i keep eying them because i want some but cant have any |
| 04:26.49 | Iriel | Are they poisoned? |
| 04:26.53 | Iriel | Can you not go get your own? |
| 04:28.35 | Amarande | sounds like the kind of thing that's meant for an upcoming party |
| 04:28.48 | Amarande | stealing the party food kind of makes one an ultimate party pooper :) |
| 04:28.58 | Amarande | and parties are good. you get to do things like play CAH at them. :) |
| 04:30.07 | Arrowmaster | Iriel: doing low carb diet |
| 04:30.30 | Iriel | Ah, may I suggest placing a visual barrier between yourself and the carbs then? |
| 04:49.11 | Mr_Rabies | all the qq about the purchasable 90s thing is pretty great |
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| 05:19.17 | kd3 | ...why? http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=8250 |
| 05:21.32 | Neffi | Semlar: How do you go about persistently hiding elements of the nameplate you don't want? |
| 05:22.00 | Neffi | Currently I'm rendering my new nameplate in a separate frame anchored to the nameplate, and just doing a nameplate:SetAlpha(0) in its own OnUpdate, to ensure the original stays hidden |
| 05:24.21 | Neffi | All other methods were annoying, in that things like to intermittently reshow, so a while ago I gave up and just started doing this |
| 05:32.07 | Shirik | omfg karl_w_w |
| 05:32.09 | Shirik | I just watched that video |
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| 05:51.43 | Semlar | we just cleared the entire dark shaman room and the bosses in under 10 minutes |
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| 05:55.06 | Semlar | neffi i just hide or set the alpha of individual elements on update |
| 05:55.35 | Semlar | you can't set the alpha of the nameplate because that's how you determine your target |
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| 06:26.07 | Amarande | heh when you mention dark shaman the first thing I thought of was the catacombs from Diablo 2 |
| 06:44.23 | Neffi | "In addition, when you pre-purchase either digital version [of Warlords of Draenor], we’re going to grant you your level-90 boost at the time of pre-purchase. " |
| 06:44.34 | Neffi | *pre-purchase* |
| 06:44.35 | Semlar | pre-purchases neffi |
| 06:44.36 | Neffi | how weird |
| 06:44.55 | Neffi | And the timeframe on the pre-purchase is Soon(TM). |
| 06:45.13 | Semlar | so immerseus's enraged puddle killed us |
| 06:45.13 | Neffi | is defective but was on clearance, so Semlar can't return him. |
| 06:45.21 | Neffi | you die a lot Semlar |
| 06:45.33 | Semlar | we would have downed him if a single person could have survived the puddles |
| 06:45.38 | Semlar | god dammit |
| 06:46.04 | Neffi | it's ok Semlar |
| 06:46.05 | Semlar | i could have survived it too |
| 06:46.07 | Neffi | pats Semlar. |
| 06:46.28 | Semlar | if i had waited longer to use deterrence i probably could have lived through it |
| 06:46.43 | Semlar | or if i hadn't used deterrence earlier |
| 06:46.48 | Semlar | i could have used it twice in a row |
| 06:47.02 | Neffi | " in the near future we’ll be testing out a feature that gives you the option to purchase a character upgrade [to level 90] directly" wtf |
| 06:47.48 | Neffi | I must be in a dwindling minority to think that maybe the leveling process shouldn't be continuously marginalized |
| 06:49.56 | karl_w_w | I'm sorry Shirik, I didn't mean to |
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| 07:24.14 | Mr_Rabies | mario sunshine why are you impossible for humans to play |
| 07:31.09 | karl_w_w | you are Neffi |
| 07:31.19 | Neffi | no he's not |
| 07:31.24 | karl_w_w | nobody wants to spend time levelling in a decade-old game |
| 07:31.39 | Neffi | karl_w_w: then why do people still play WoW? |
| 07:31.56 | karl_w_w | there are ~no new players in wow, the value of levelling is very small |
| 07:32.13 | karl_w_w | people want to play new content and you do that at max level |
| 07:32.19 | nevcairiel | karl_w_w: i like leveling D: |
| 07:32.24 | Neffi | blah |
| 07:35.55 | nevcairiel | so the 90 boost comes in immediately, huh |
| 07:40.26 | karl_w_w | you can still level if you want nevcairiel :P |
| 07:40.47 | nevcairiel | you said nobody! |
| 07:43.40 | karl_w_w | you're a special case! |
| 07:54.12 | Mr_Rabies | i think it's okay to still enjoy leveling, neffi, but certainly not everyone does |
| 07:54.46 | Mr_Rabies | i don't think it really takes anything away from the game to have a faster way to 90 for those who are tired of the leveling experience |
| 07:55.09 | Mr_Rabies | i'd rather have some options available though, maybe a bit cheaper for an 85 or 80 or whatever |
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| 08:22.44 | Mr_Rabies | did they change certain gathering professions to be gatherable in pandaria starting at skill 1? i swear they did, but i can't figure out which |
| 08:23.09 | karl_w_w | all of them? |
| 08:23.32 | karl_w_w | i know herbing and skinning they did |
| 08:23.43 | Semlar | i know they did mining |
| 08:23.50 | Mr_Rabies | hmmm |
| 08:24.01 | Mr_Rabies | i guess i'll just buy my way though alchemy then |
| 08:24.03 | Semlar | you can gather chunks of ghost iron ore and glue them together |
| 08:24.07 | Mr_Rabies | and level that later if i want |
| 08:24.21 | Mr_Rabies | or pick up jewelcrafting and drop that on my dk |
| 08:24.48 | Mr_Rabies | alchemy/jc on the monk, mining/blacksmithing on my dk |
| 08:24.49 | Mr_Rabies | hmmm |
| 08:26.59 | Mr_Rabies | i might just double up on jc for now since i'm already doubling up on alchemy |
| 08:27.32 | Mr_Rabies | jc and alchemy still require low level mats to level, though, unless there're some patterns i don't know of |
| 08:37.35 | nevcairiel | dont all crafting profs require some low level mats? :p |
| 08:38.08 | nevcairiel | and you can level herbing in panda country only? i must've missed that news |
| 08:39.14 | Mr_Rabies | blacksmithing can be entirely done with ghost iron |
| 08:39.38 | Mr_Rabies | as well as some others, possibly? |
| 08:40.20 | nevcairiel | i recently leveled engineering, that certainly takes mats from all level regions |
| 08:40.24 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 08:40.29 | Mr_Rabies | engineering is a nightmare to level |
| 08:40.37 | Mr_Rabies | it's a nightmare in general |
| 08:40.46 | Mr_Rabies | everything wrong with profession design is super, super apparent with engineering |
| 08:40.55 | nevcairiel | i always liked it for its fun elements, despite it being so terrible |
| 08:41.06 | Mr_Rabies | even down to duplicate subcategories in the filter with totally differnt items in it |
| 08:41.09 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, same |
| 08:41.31 | Mr_Rabies | there's like, Odds N Ends, Miscellaneous, Miscellaneous, and Other categories |
| 08:41.40 | Mr_Rabies | or something along those lines |
| 09:14.15 | Sintacks | how do i do that thing where i can do like... "var = SomeCall() but if the call returns nil i can make var = 0 |
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| 09:17.40 | nevcairiel | var = SomeCall() or 0 |
| 09:17.47 | Sintacks | k. |
| 09:23.59 | zenzio | great, some old javascript file stopped working, and I'm trying to fix it. So I go to the website mentioned in the .js, and see that the "latest news" is from 2007 |
| 09:25.15 | Maldivia | yeah... good luck with that! :P |
| 09:25.46 | zenzio | this page also uses <frameset>... |
| 09:25.57 | Maldivia | you sure it's 2007, and not 1997 then? |
| 09:26.05 | zenzio | I wonder what I did in my previous life to have to maintain sites like these |
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| 09:52.19 | Mr_Rabies | invented the <blink> tag |
| 10:05.31 | karl_w_w | god damn zenzio, why you <blink>? |
| 10:09.23 | haste | zenzio: we have some ASP code from which has zero functions defined, uses includes, inline html, 1999 style and is about 15k LoC |
| 10:10.19 | haste | my favorite part about it is how it creates a SQL connection, does a query, then closes it |
| 10:10.26 | haste | repeat x1000 |
| 10:12.55 | zenzio | hm... |
| 10:13.19 | karl_w_w | such a rebel haste |
| 10:13.58 | zenzio | haste: ouch |
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| 11:16.37 | Mr_Rabies | wish blizzard was a bit faster posting patch notes for the bnet client |
| 11:16.51 | Mr_Rabies | 1.0.7 has been out for a bit now, and no notes :( |
| 11:18.19 | Stanzilla | Mr_Rabies: did they even post notes for it? like ever? |
| 11:18.27 | Mr_Rabies | yup |
| 11:18.32 | Mr_Rabies | on the bnet client forums |
| 11:18.49 | Mr_Rabies | http://us.battle.net/en/forum/topic/10788149080 |
| 11:19.24 | karl_w_w | are you hoping for "now supports steam overlay" Mr_Rabies? |
| 11:19.26 | Stanzilla | oh nice |
| 11:19.40 | Mr_Rabies | a bit, karl_w_w, as well as fixing the friends list |
| 11:19.55 | karl_w_w | there's a bug? |
| 11:20.01 | Mr_Rabies | 1.0.6 broke it so you have to click out of the game and back into it in the games list to see your friends list updated properly |
| 11:20.09 | karl_w_w | ah yeah i noticed that |
| 11:20.11 | Mr_Rabies | prior to that it'd update in realtim-ish |
| 11:20.16 | Mr_Rabies | realtime-ish* |
| 11:20.17 | karl_w_w | I mostly just want chat |
| 11:20.37 | Mr_Rabies | as i understand it chat was once a thing, before NDA was dropped |
| 11:20.48 | Mr_Rabies | and they redesigned it visually |
| 11:20.51 | Stanzilla | as was a real friends list |
| 11:20.55 | jleclanche | i think they might have broken it on wine |
| 11:21.04 | Stanzilla | and chat was working |
| 11:21.35 | Mr_Rabies | it'll be back before too long i imagine |
| 11:21.48 | Mr_Rabies | i can't wait for OQ spam when i'm browsing reddit |
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| 11:29.47 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: have you tried updating the battle.net launcher in wine? |
| 11:33.45 | Mr_Rabies | ~seen Dyouji |
| 11:33.47 | purl | i haven't seen 'dyouji', Mr_Rabies |
| 11:33.51 | Mr_Rabies | :( |
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| 11:53.26 | karl_w_w | I've never heard of dyouji |
| 12:09.31 | karl_w_w | http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-01-17-valve-has-no-vr-headset-its-backing-oculus-rift <- party |
| 12:09.50 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/47DKW.png |
| 12:09.58 | Semlar | no neffi |
| 12:10.08 | Neffi | yes |
| 12:10.17 | karl_w_w | no Neffi |
| 12:10.29 | Semlar | see |
| 12:10.49 | Neffi | why is everyone against me? |
| 12:10.58 | Semlar | majority rules |
| 12:11.03 | nevcairiel | we're against the 90s |
| 12:11.53 | Neffi | but look at those colorful icons |
| 12:13.55 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: "and some other guy who has a Reddit account." |
| 12:13.57 | jleclanche | haha |
| 12:14.29 | karl_w_w | lol |
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| 14:13.30 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:13.45 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, we are having breakfast together! |
| 14:14.07 | Fisker | nice |
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| 14:56.35 | Arrowmaster | what is microsoft dynamics sl? i got sent a job application requesting a highschool diploma and 3-5 years work experience with microsoft dynamics sl or bachelors degree in IT with 2-3 years work experience with microsoft dynamics sl |
| 14:58.58 | Workfoz | ERP |
| 14:59.02 | Workfoz | (google says) |
| 14:59.29 | Arrowmaster | so some more shit of 'we will hire you if you are already trained for the job, otherwise fuck off' |
| 14:59.40 | Arrowmaster | jleclanche: errored in crossover 13.0.1 |
| 15:03.00 | Arrowmaster | ACK |
| 15:03.20 | Arrowmaster | BAD BATTLE NET AGENT STOP RUNNING 10 OF YOURSELF USING ALL OF MY CPU POWER! |
| 15:04.44 | Ressy | o.O |
| 15:05.00 | Ressy | There's a BDA update, so possibly it went batty. |
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| 15:23.50 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: i had the exact same problem |
| 15:23.54 | jleclanche | 10 instances, full cpu usage |
| 15:24.22 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: i filed this: https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35401 |
| 15:24.23 | Arrowmaster | so ill have to wait for a crossover 13.0.2? |
| 15:24.25 | jleclanche | i dont know |
| 15:24.30 | jleclanche | its a bug in wine tip |
| 15:24.38 | jleclanche | need to find a workaround |
| 15:24.45 | jleclanche | or at least the cause |
| 15:35.58 | Arrowmaster | i really need more ram, when the hell is laptop ddr3 going to finally drop to reasonable prices again |
| 15:36.43 | Workfoz | s/laptop// |
| 15:41.53 | karl_w_w | probably when ddr4 emerges, Arrowmaster |
| 15:42.32 | Arrowmaster | no ddr3 will just increase in price then because 'nobodys making it anymore' |
| 15:44.25 | nevcairiel | its not like laptops are the ideal platform for memory upgrades in any case =p |
| 15:47.21 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYQczo1TKuA this might be the best cover of a thing ever |
| 15:50.20 | karl_w_w | better than the original |
| 15:59.32 | karl_w_w | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2429647,00.asp <- next week, Intel buys ARM |
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| 16:56.01 | Arrowmaster | well thats great, got a call from the staffing company im employed by and they said the bank didnt renew my contract for next week even though ive got 2 appointments |
| 16:57.36 | Unkle | That sucks. |
| 16:58.33 | Arrowmaster | well those are my last two appointments anyway since they are shutting us down |
| 16:59.05 | Arrowmaster | but they wanted me to finish stuff that kept getting rescheduled so there seems to be a miscommunication |
| 17:00.00 | Unkle | Just be careful that you don't end up doing work for which you will not be paid. :/ |
| 17:00.11 | Arrowmaster | yeah thats why they called |
| 17:01.46 | Arrowmaster | one of those is at a location i have to spend 2.5-3 hours round trip to get to so just showing up means i get paid $40 |
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| 17:16.28 | Lopeppeppy | How did I skip straight from breakfast to lunch? *head in hands* Where did the day go? |
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| 17:18.47 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:28.35 | Lopeppeppy | I require lobster. I blame Unkle. |
| 17:29.37 | Unkle | Red Lobster to Dogfort. Come in Dogfort. |
| 17:32.58 | Lopeppeppy | I also need a big ugly keychain so I stop losing my spare car key |
| 17:33.50 | Fisker | My slaps only contain trout :( |
| 17:34.28 | Fisker | use the force Lopeppeppy |
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| 17:42.32 | Ackis | http://www.gog.com/game/police_quest_1_2_3_4 :D :D :D |
| 17:45.46 | mikma | ackis: niiiiiice |
| 17:45.54 | mikma | ackis: i hope the manuals are included |
| 17:46.09 | Fisker | I remember getting to drive in that game |
| 17:46.59 | Ackis | Police, Space and King's Quest were some of my very first PC games |
| 17:47.13 | Ackis | if I look at home I should have Police Quest 1 on the 5 1/4 disks somewhere |
| 17:49.44 | Lopeppeppy | I will force the trout to be seafood! |
| 17:49.58 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, I totally read that WRONG! |
| 17:52.06 | Arrowmaster | its resume updating time and ill i can think to do is change "Present" to "January 2014" in my work experience |
| 17:52.22 | Arrowmaster | s/ill/all/ |
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| 17:53.16 | pompy | mikma: Bonus content included for FREE with purchase: 4 manuals map 3 reference cards avatar |
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| 18:02.55 | Ackis | pompy: huh? |
| 18:06.04 | pompy | (1/17/2014 12:44:56 PM) mikma: ackis: i hope the manuals are included |
| 18:06.05 | pompy | ? |
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| 18:35.37 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: my playlist randomly brought me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txBpU6ZTMAE again |
| 18:35.38 | jleclanche | oh man, good stuff |
| 18:40.14 | nevcairiel | that was one weird episode |
| 18:40.14 | Arrowmaster | and your google+ comment from a year ago is at the top of the page for me |
| 18:40.14 | jleclanche | which? |
| 18:40.14 | nevcairiel | same here |
| 18:40.15 | nevcairiel | https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JeromeLeclanche/posts/NpCA7ckqNpb |
| 18:40.15 | jleclanche | oh yeah |
| 18:40.15 | jleclanche | i have comments disabled on youtube |
| 18:40.15 | nevcairiel | it probably puts it on top because you're in my circles, i guess |
| 18:40.15 | Arrowmaster | yup |
| 18:40.15 | nevcairiel | the sound track is pretty great for this ton |
| 18:40.15 | nevcairiel | this one* |
| 18:40.15 | jleclanche | yeah |
| 18:40.16 | jleclanche | hmm |
| 18:40.16 | jleclanche | they actually play pretty amazingly together |
| 18:40.16 | jleclanche | I have one running from 1:00 and one from 3:58 |
| 18:40.16 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:40.16 | jleclanche | purely coincidentally. but this is pretty amazing |
| 18:41.02 | Arrowmaster | why wont google let me claim my g+ url |
| 18:41.03 | Arrowmaster | says i have to add extra numbers and letters to the end |
| 18:41.03 | jleclanche | google declined my +jleclanche url |
| 18:41.03 | jleclanche | fuckers |
| 18:41.03 | jleclanche | they are forcing me to use +jeromeleclanche |
| 18:41.03 | jleclanche | wtf is wrong with +jleclanche |
| 18:41.20 | Arrowmaster | i cant even edit the name part |
| 18:41.34 | jleclanche | well, they let me choose my own |
| 18:41.37 | jleclanche | but that option disappeared |
| 18:42.42 | nevcairiel | i had the choice of my full name, or my fullname with suffix |
| 18:42.42 | Arrowmaster | just says to add letters and numbers to the end because "many people have the same name" bull shit ive checked only 14 people have the same name as me in the US so it cant be that much higher globally |
| 18:42.43 | jleclanche | you have an incredibly common first and last name |
| 18:42.47 | Arrowmaster | me? |
| 18:42.49 | jleclanche | how are there only 14 others in the us? |
| 18:42.50 | jleclanche | yeah |
| 18:43.01 | Dagmar | There's like 300+ with my birth name |
| 18:43.05 | Arrowmaster | common first name, uncommon last name |
| 18:43.10 | jleclanche | erm |
| 18:43.12 | Arrowmaster | really unique combo |
| 18:43.15 | jleclanche | what was your last name again? |
| 18:43.20 | Arrowmaster | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:43.21 | Dagmar | Probbaly 100 of them born the same damn year as me, too |
| 18:43.22 | jleclanche | ah |
| 18:43.29 | jleclanche | i thought it was newman |
| 18:43.45 | Arrowmaster | nope, its the original german spelling |
| 18:43.58 | nevcairiel | neumann is pretty common in germany, so maybe you clash there a lot :p |
| 18:44.24 | Arrowmaster | yeah but i dont think my first name is a common german name |
| 18:45.03 | jleclanche | im lucky enough that i only share my last name with a couple people working at nasa and an old battery manufacturer |
| 18:45.19 | jleclanche | oh and a couple of people in my actual family i guess. |
| 18:45.40 | Dagmar | One of my grade school classes had *five* Pauls in it. |
| 18:45.49 | Dagmar | <-- I use this fucking name everywhere. |
| 18:45.53 | jleclanche | rare last names will eventually be a commodity, even more so rare first/last name combos |
| 18:48.37 | Arrowmaster | seriously google, if you wont let me have +FirstLast let me put my middle initial in there like i did on facebook, that is completely unique afaik |
| 18:48.50 | jleclanche | it lets you put your nickname in the middle |
| 18:48.55 | jleclanche | so just change your nickname to be your middle initial. |
| 18:50.49 | Arrowmaster | not giving me any new options on the URL claim page |
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| 18:53.25 | Unkle | My first name is Matt. One of the single most popular names in my age group and the brackets on either side. There was never a time where I was the only Matt/Matthew in a group. Even in here there are at least 3 of us. |
| 18:54.35 | Unkle | Once in college I worked at a place where I shared a large floor-plan office with my boss... his name was also Matt. |
| 18:58.03 | Dagmar | That's always fun. |
| 18:58.30 | Dagmar | Our hear of NetSec thought he was safe from such things because his name is Josh Lutz (pronounced 'Luhtz') |
| 18:58.36 | Dagmar | er head. |
| 18:58.57 | Dagmar | THe new CIO? Josh Lutz. (pronounced 'Loots') formerly of IBM. |
| 18:59.03 | Dagmar | lol |
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| 19:00.06 | kd3 | hah. most of my childhood, I lived in Lutz (loots), FL |
| 19:06.01 | Gnarfoz | <jleclanche> rare last names will eventually be a commodity, even more so rare first/last name combos <-- which leaves the question: do you want your children to be able to blend into the masses, or have unique names, easy to find? :D |
| 19:06.22 | jleclanche | Gnarfoz: Honestly? |
| 19:06.28 | jleclanche | Gnarfoz: My rare, foreign name has made me hard to find |
| 19:06.49 | jleclanche | every time i give my name, i end up with companies thinking I'm "McClenche", "Lallanche" or "Lechange" |
| 19:06.51 | Icicle | like North West |
| 19:07.02 | Icicle | good parenting...such unique.... |
| 19:07.14 | Dagmar | ...rather than "le Clench"? |
| 19:07.18 | Gnarfoz | I meant: easy to distinguish, in the "only 2 guys with this name, it's probably him" vs. "one of hundreds or thousands of 'Matt Smith"s |
| 19:07.43 | Arrowmaster | oh what the fuck, it finally updated and let me do FirstMLast but it still wants random shit and the end to make it unique |
| 19:07.49 | Arrowmaster | that name is already unique |
| 19:07.55 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: they just hate you |
| 19:08.12 | Arrowmaster | they do, i think this requires calling in the big guns |
| 19:08.28 | Arrowmaster | waves and smiles at ZorbaBeta |
| 19:09.09 | Icicle | all of my kids will have the last name Icicle |
| 19:09.16 | Icicle | that's enough for me |
| 19:10.31 | Arrowmaster | bah damn googles extensive usage of javascript, i cant even easily force the page to let me submit it anyway |
| 19:23.39 | Arrowmaster | also is there a way to unsubscribe from certain categories of a group your in on g+ |
| 19:25.58 | Arrowmaster | i cant find it, makes it really annoying when my home stream is covered in nova launcher and cyanogren screenshots and themes |
| 19:30.17 | Dagmar | As far as I know you can only unfollow |
| 19:30.29 | Dagmar | I regularly get buried alive in Ingress shit, so I know the feeling |
| 19:32.56 | Arrowmaster | well these two are actually classifying the posts under different groups, but i only care about certain groups so ill just have to remove the entire things from my home page to make any sense of it |
| 19:37.01 | Primer | I'm saddened ever time I get SWTOR emails |
| 19:37.01 | Primer | every, even |
| 19:37.30 | Primer | Because I really really wanted SWTOR to do well...and after playing it for a few months, I canceled by subscription because I grew tired of it |
| 19:37.34 | Dagmar | I'm just irritated by them. |
| 19:37.53 | Dagmar | ...because I have to go look up the damn serials and stuff because I had a hard token on the goddamn account. |
| 19:38.02 | Dagmar | ...and yet it allows people to request a password reset. |
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| 19:48.27 | Primer | This new SWTOR video makes me want to play it |
| 19:48.28 | Unkle | I move stuff to circles and then don't display the circle on my "home stream" |
| 19:48.30 | Unkle | Or more specifically, I rarely look at "All" |
| 19:48.30 | Arrowmaster | you can go to something and tell it not to show on the home stream |
| 19:48.31 | Arrowmaster | instead of putting them in circles |
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| 19:48.31 | Unkle | Yeah, I just did it the other way when trying to figure out circles and haven't fucked with it since. |
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| 19:50.09 | Dashkal | Deleted my authenticator, not willing to send proof of identity to EA. No chance of returning to that disappointment. |
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| 20:09.48 | Dagmar | Hayden Panettiere bought a house here. |
| 20:09.55 | Dagmar | stalky stalk-stalks. |
| 20:10.20 | Unkle | Dude - surfer chick with a dolphin fetish? Really? |
| 20:10.46 | Dagmar | Wait... what? |
| 20:11.38 | Unkle | You didn't see the news of her environmental activism from a couple of years ago when she was riding the Heroes fame-wave? |
| 20:12.16 | Unkle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UBUO_cVobI |
| 20:12.48 | Unkle | I'm all for dolphins - but ... she got kinda creepy. |
| 20:15.21 | Dagmar | I generally prefer my dolphins on strippers, but *shrug* |
| 20:15.53 | Unkle | We now return you to your regularly scheduled celebrity stalking. |
| 20:16.21 | Dagmar | I occasionally get them in the condo above mine |
| 20:17.15 | Dagmar | I've been tempted to tell the landlady if she has people like that stayin' up there to maybe hint to them that the guy downstairs used to take a lot of LSD so don't get weirded out if he looks at you funny. |
| 20:17.38 | Unkle | I don't think that'll help your cause any. |
| 20:18.03 | Dagmar | If I'm going to have a psychotic break, I'd really rather it at least be obvious that I've lost my marbles. |
| 20:18.41 | Dagmar | ...and after being at Bongo when Jeff Bridges showed up, I know I'm not alone in this. |
| 20:19.59 | Dagmar | *Some* celebrities apparently enjoy it when people are frantically trying to figure out if they're seeing shit or not |
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| 20:21.36 | Unkle | Oh you're seeing shit. The question really is ... is the shit you're seeing real? |
| 20:22.01 | Dagmar | Yes, that's the part that will drive you mad, assuming you're not already far around the bend. |
| 20:22.23 | Dagmar | I just pretended not to see him. |
| 20:23.20 | Dagmar | I already flirted with Keith Urban's wife accidentally. hehe |
| 20:24.25 | Dagmar | I get positively derpy when I'm caught off-balance. I'm ordering coffee, turn around... $famous_readhead. "Hey there. You're kinda cute. pardon me." Proceed to coffee fixin's table |
| 20:26.16 | Arrowmaster | even Spotify is now joining in on Debians init system debate now |
| 20:26.16 | Unkle | Yeah. I often assume that anyone famous I run into just wants to be treated like any other human being and not hear me say "I'm a really big fan of your work," or "OMG, I have your poster on my wall," or "You were in my spank-bank for years." Or anything else my brain is likely to pump to the vocal cords before higher function is restored. So I keep my trap shut. |
| 20:27.00 | Dagmar | I would have been a lot happier if I'd just smiled at Nicole Kidman |
| 20:28.52 | Primer | quite the name-dropper |
| 20:30.20 | Dagmar | Yes, well, tell me you wouldn't also be doign a quick reality check if you turned around and someone who's been in a bunch of movies naked was standing right behind you |
| 20:30.20 | Dagmar | They should wear bells or something |
| 20:30.21 | Thunder_Child | And nothing but bells? |
| 20:30.25 | Dagmar | Then I'd *know* I was hallucinating and they would be as good as invisible. |
| 20:30.27 | Unkle | Thunder_Child: That's a different kind of movie. |
| 20:30.34 | Dagmar | It would be _less_ stressful. |
| 20:30.35 | Mr_Rabies | <Dagmar> I already flirted with Keith Urban's wife accidentally. hehe |
| 20:30.42 | Mr_Rabies | i read "Karl Urban's Wife" |
| 20:30.50 | Dagmar | hah |
| 20:36.08 | Mr_Rabies | i wouldn't recommend being on Dredd's bad side |
| 20:36.12 | Dagmar | For me it's a bigger transgression that I casually tossed a flirt at someone's wife |
| 20:36.12 | Dagmar | I follow three rules about that. |
| 20:36.12 | Dagmar | All three state "The husband may have a gun." |
| 20:36.13 | Dagmar | ...and since he's from TN, it's more simply put as "The husband has a gun." |
| 20:36.17 | Mr_Rabies | or in one of the cities out here "the husband is legally required to have a gun" |
| 20:37.07 | Lopeppeppy | never could understand relationships threatened by stranger-flirts. |
| 20:38.30 | Kesava | so apparently some time ago NAMEPLATE_FONT was changed to a reference to the normal font template rather than FRIZQT itself |
| 20:38.41 | Kesava | is there a different global we should be using for that? |
| 20:38.56 | Dagmar | Lopeppeppy: It's not the flirt that is the danger. It's that the other person *might* reciprocate. |
| 20:38.56 | Kesava | or do i need to try to remember what it's called |
| 20:40.00 | Lopeppeppy | Still don't get it, Dagmar. If a relationship is that insecure to get all blown up about flirts, just end it and be happier with someone you can trust better. |
| 20:40.37 | Dagmar | You do realize I had a woman finger *me* as the guy she'd been cheating on her husband with, right? |
| 20:40.48 | Dagmar | My second time in the Wild Whore Saloon |
| 20:40.52 | Dagmar | er Wild Horse Saloon |
| 20:41.55 | Dagmar | There is no way out of such an argument that doesn't involve just being bigger than the other guy. |
| 20:42.00 | mikma | http://www.break.com/video/funny-family-guy-joke-2564702 |
| 20:42.12 | Dagmar | fucking hillbillies |
| 20:42.29 | Dagmar | Also, never say "I have never seen this bitch before in my life." |
| 20:42.35 | Dagmar | Totally doesn't work. |
| 20:49.29 | Mr_Rabies | argh i don't get why they turned off flight path auto-acquire |
| 20:49.49 | Mr_Rabies | i think at the minimum once you outlevel a zone you should get the flight paths, if not when you're on-level |
| 20:52.49 | Fisker | not to mention slaps with a trout Lopeppeppy |
| 20:52.52 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:53.31 | Fisker | so that makes breakfast, lunch and a afternoon snack |
| 21:13.11 | Mr_Rabies | hmmmm |
| 21:13.47 | Mr_Rabies | a side effect of being able to lvel herbalism entirely in pandaria is no low level herbs on the AH to level alchemy :( |
| 21:16.16 | Arrowmaster | i wish i could force hulu to show that "are you still there" after every episode, somebody keeps leaving hulu on then going to bed |
| 21:17.28 | Mr_Rabies | streaming on a pc? |
| 21:17.44 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 21:17.59 | Mr_Rabies | if you don't mind the bandwidth hit, you could set it to mute the pc after x amount of time idle |
| 21:18.13 | Mr_Rabies | a scheduled task or something |
| 21:18.18 | Arrowmaster | no the bandwidth is why i hate it |
| 21:18.37 | Arrowmaster | i dont like randomly finding out part of my bandwidth is being used for nothing |
| 21:29.55 | Dagmar | MITM time |
| 21:32.12 | mikma | cairenn: what does the fox say? apparently FLOOF, http://youtu.be/_AtP7au_Q9w |
| 21:32.59 | Cairenn | lol |
| 21:34.01 | mikma | he loves his foxxy :D |
| 22:02.24 | Mr_Rabies | as a disclaimer that dude appears to be a furry |
| 22:02.27 | Mr_Rabies | with a pet fox |
| 22:02.48 | Mr_Rabies | so you might be more right than you'd wish mikma :( |
| 22:03.58 | Mr_Rabies | yup, links to furaffinity |
| 22:10.17 | Dagmar | nope.avi |
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| 22:15.16 | mikma | mr_rabies: mm mm mm, foxxyloverboy69 |
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| 22:39.59 | kd3 | whee, only took 2 weeks for my replacement license to get here |
| 22:45.23 | Gnarfoz | kd3: did the mailman also need a new licence? ;] |
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| 23:25.00 | VIad | ^^ |
