| 00:03.11 | Semlar | no neffi |
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| 00:49.03 | DJJeff | http://i.imgur.com/KH8CGHo.jpg |
| 00:49.13 | DJJeff | ill take any feedback / suggestions |
| 00:49.21 | DJJeff | on how to improve this |
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| 00:55.26 | Semlar | you need a bank of raid frames in the middle and an animated portrait of your target in the blank spot to the left of the spells |
| 00:55.47 | Gethe | ^ |
| 00:55.56 | Semlar | you also have spells in two locations |
| 00:56.07 | Semlar | i would just make the icons smaller and put them all where starcraft has them |
| 00:56.33 | Semlar | kind of depends on how many you need |
| 00:56.51 | Semlar | to really make it like starcraft it would have to be paged or something |
| 00:58.32 | Gethe | i was thinking main action bar where the ctrl-groups are |
| 00:58.42 | Gethe | probly skined |
| 00:58.44 | Semlar | the icons also need borders |
| 00:59.51 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:00.18 | Gethe | it's not terrible |
| 01:00.59 | Gethe | could deffinatly be better though |
| 01:02.57 | Semlar | the icons really need borders and maybe an overlay to make them fit though |
| 01:03.01 | Gethe | to be fair, SC2 and WoW have very differnt UI needs so, this kind of adapation would not be easy to pull off well |
| 01:03.15 | Semlar | like they have here http://students.expression.edu/interfacedesign/files/2013/01/SC2UI.jpg |
| 01:03.37 | Semlar | although i would make the buttons way smaller |
| 01:04.33 | Semlar | and maybe have a texture for the empty ones too |
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| 01:43.13 | TC_ | ~lart Neffi |
| 01:43.13 | purl | DoSes Neffi |
| 01:49.31 | Neffi | TC-Surface: but why? |
| 01:49.54 | TC-Surface | Neffi: the pun from earlier |
| 01:50.20 | Neffi | I thought it was funny |
| 01:52.06 | TC-Surface | Puns are never funny, they are a pox upon humanity |
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| 02:15.34 | Sintacks | [Semlar] Sintacks: if it's this http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/corpse/ it says it adds people to your friends list to get the information faster |
| 02:15.37 | Sintacks | that's what it is |
| 02:15.40 | Sintacks | and interesting |
| 02:15.47 | Sintacks | at least now i know why it's doing it |
| 02:15.58 | Sintacks | it used to do a /who |
| 02:16.07 | Sintacks | i guess now it uses the friends list |
| 02:16.26 | Sintacks | it doesn't work as well as it used to though |
| 02:16.27 | Sintacks | but meh |
| 02:16.33 | Sintacks | goes to sleep cuz tired for some stupid reason |
| 02:30.58 | Arrowmaster | fuck this god damn torrent, it just keeps getting slower and slower |
| 02:31.11 | Arrowmaster | up to 85% and its down to 15KB/s |
| 02:32.50 | Neffi | Bad availability? |
| 02:40.43 | Arrowmaster | no im connected to 125 seeds |
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| 04:01.12 | DJJeff | my ISP is emailing me now |
| 04:01.17 | DJJeff | to stop torrenting |
| 04:01.24 | DJJeff | something about Warner Bros from California |
| 04:01.32 | DJJeff | and copywrite |
| 04:01.59 | DJJeff | also is my recount broken? |
| 04:02.00 | DJJeff | http://i.imgur.com/iNOen6G.jpg |
| 04:02.12 | DJJeff | someone in my group said I was doing like 10k |
| 04:06.39 | DJJeff | recount almost never gets updated |
| 04:07.35 | DJJeff | has just as many likes as DBM too |
| 04:13.39 | Stanzilla | where is your mana bar? :D |
| 04:14.29 | Neffi | I'm curious why you need a really big reminder that you are, in fact, Horde |
| 04:15.13 | karl_w_w | there's something I'd never considered before, some people don't have an internal monologue |
| 04:15.35 | karl_w_w | I can't even imagine how you'd think without talking to yourself in your own head |
| 04:15.42 | Neffi | I don't believe that |
| 04:17.24 | karl_w_w | it's all true! |
| 04:17.29 | Neffi | I can see thinking without talking to myself. I mean, mulling over code I think in terms of the inter-relationships between discrete systems. I don't utter a word in my head. But I've always assumed that internal monologue is still a constant. |
| 04:19.17 | karl_w_w | well I guess |
| 04:20.06 | karl_w_w | I'm trying to think about how I think, which is surprisingly difficult to do |
| 04:20.26 | Neffi | so meta it hurts |
| 04:20.36 | karl_w_w | we need to go deeper |
| 04:21.06 | Neffi | I tend to think in terms of abstract visualization most commonly, but once I build that foundation I interalize and explore it by internal monologue. |
| 04:21.25 | Neffi | Without describing what I've designed to myself, as if speaking to another person, I probably wouldn't be nearly as good at it |
| 04:23.21 | karl_w_w | I don't know how some people don't have one though |
| 04:24.30 | Neffi | I always wondered how people that were deaf from birth would have one, but they probably do |
| 04:24.52 | Neffi | Why would you think anybody doesn't? |
| 04:25.01 | karl_w_w | i googled it :P |
| 04:25.06 | karl_w_w | seems like there's a few |
| 04:25.21 | Neffi | Is there anything concrete other than "I don't have one! I'm a snowflake" |
| 04:26.18 | karl_w_w | no |
| 04:26.26 | karl_w_w | but there's enough that I don't think that's it |
| 04:27.21 | Kesava | Neffi: but how does a person completely isolated from any form of communcation think |
| 04:28.29 | karl_w_w | I suspect most people develop theirs when they learn to read |
| 04:28.38 | Neffi | Ask somebody who specializes in neuroscience? |
| 04:28.55 | karl_w_w | you don't specialize in neuroscience Neffi? |
| 04:28.55 | Neffi | They still have a center of the brain specialized in communication and language |
| 04:29.10 | Kesava | well i highlighted you since you mentioned the deaf from birth thing |
| 04:29.14 | Kesava | i thought you'd be interested |
| 04:29.30 | Neffi | That area may end up underdeveloped to the point of uselessness without ANY communication whatsoever, but I really dont know |
| 04:33.02 | Kesava | I'd assume conceptually your monologue is your brain trying to get you to think about every possibility, or to work out how better to externally communicate something. |
| 04:33.21 | Kesava | you already know the result of your thoughts. but you devote a few seconds to saying it back to yourself. for some reason. |
| 04:33.35 | Neffi | Meh |
| 04:33.40 | Neffi | You may not know it |
| 04:33.59 | Neffi | The important thing is not knowing, but making connections you previously didn't make, and internalizing those connections |
| 04:34.06 | Kesava | he |
| 04:34.08 | Kesava | lkdnlas. |
| 04:34.12 | Kesava | yeah* |
| 04:34.13 | Neffi | Knowledge ~= wisdom |
| 04:34.14 | Neffi | A computer can know |
| 04:34.21 | Neffi | Our brains do much more |
| 04:37.02 | Stanzilla | not mine |
| 04:37.09 | Stanzilla | mine does the tetris melody |
| 04:40.22 | Kesava | we know |
| 04:41.45 | karl_w_w | I don't even remember the tetris melody |
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| 04:46.49 | nebula169 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg : Stanzilla's brain |
| 04:47.07 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 04:47.12 | Neffi | lol |
| 04:48.39 | karl_w_w | Stanzilla's brain is much more active than mine |
| 04:49.21 | Neffi | Honest question, how often do you have music playing in the back of your head? |
| 04:50.16 | Neffi | I wonder if it's unusual, because for me it's a constant in the absence of significant stimuli |
| 04:51.26 | karl_w_w | pretty rarely for me |
| 04:51.40 | karl_w_w | but then I spend much of my time listening to actual music |
| 04:52.11 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV06M-Gqxgg Stanzilla's actual brain |
| 04:55.45 | Kesava | and now i'm going to listen to that on loop for a few hours |
| 05:03.10 | Neffi | There's no other wya to rotate a fontstring, then to hack it up with an Animation, right? |
| 05:04.40 | Semlar | as far as i know it's the only way |
| 05:08.23 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:09.31 | Semlar | that was with an animation |
| 05:11.12 | Neffi | I like my design, but not the text sticking out http://i.imgur.com/anJyT3n.png |
| 05:11.57 | Neffi | I wonder if it will look good with the cast name rotated next to the cast bar (which is also vertical) and the target-of-target rotated to the right, and no other text present |
| 05:15.44 | Neffi | Semlar: Do you know if, when rotated to some multiple of 90 degrees, the text will still appear crisp? |
| 05:16.19 | Semlar | i'm not sure |
| 05:16.30 | Semlar | i think it might be at 90 degrees |
| 05:16.43 | Semlar | but i also think sideways text is really hard to read |
| 05:17.58 | Neffi | I'll have to play and see |
| 05:18.17 | Semlar | it definitely lowered the quality of the font at odd angles |
| 05:18.25 | Neffi | The target of target name is not often used. It's really just an at-a-glance to see if an enemy is targeting me or a friend I'm playing with. |
| 05:18.45 | Neffi | And the cast name, I can supplement with a cast icon |
| 05:23.52 | DJJeff | found a good spot for recount |
| 05:23.53 | DJJeff | http://i.imgur.com/7JmlByQ.jpg |
| 05:24.43 | DJJeff | trying to get chatter addon to behave just like starcraft 2 |
| 05:24.56 | DJJeff | where only whispers and battle.net show up |
| 05:25.35 | Semlar | well the default interface lets you pick what channels will display in a given tab |
| 05:27.27 | Seerah | DJJeff: you should use a viewport |
| 05:28.11 | DJJeff | whats a viewport? |
| 05:28.30 | Seerah | think widescreen movie on a 4:3 tv |
| 05:28.44 | DJJeff | ? |
| 05:28.54 | DJJeff | my resolution is 1080p |
| 05:28.56 | DJJeff | http://i.imgur.com/7BV2L9g.jpg |
| 05:29.33 | Seerah | it will make a black bar at the bottom (essentially resizing the WorldFrame). The black bar will hide behind your StarCraft art, and you won't miss a thing in the game world. |
| 05:29.42 | Seerah | right now, you can't see everything around you. |
| 05:30.52 | Seerah | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11134-CBHViewport.html |
| 05:35.58 | Neffi | More accurately, it modifies the actual rendered area for you |
| 05:36.12 | Neffi | So the part behind your big bar doesn't need to get rendered (and cut off from your view) |
| 05:36.36 | Seerah | yeah, I kinda said that backwards up there. The addon resizes the WorldFrame (what is rendered and that you think of as the game screen) which creates the black background |
| 05:37.04 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:37.20 | Neffi | so cute |
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| 05:37.48 | Neffi | I sometimes wonder; are cats really unaware of their tail, or are they just that playful? |
| 05:38.18 | Semlar | cats are spazzes |
| 05:38.28 | Neffi | you're a spaz! |
| 05:38.42 | Semlar | maybe i'm a cat |
| 05:39.06 | Neffi | I will consult with the Wise Ones about this |
| 05:39.13 | Semlar | what do they know |
| 05:39.23 | Neffi | (secretly, nothing at all) |
| 05:43.13 | DJJeff | I wish the Timeless isle shared realms |
| 05:43.20 | DJJeff | mine is so empty |
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| 05:52.12 | Stanzilla | DJJeff: your UI is so weird |
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| 06:17.08 | Shirik | I have a new favorite German word |
| 06:17.15 | Shirik | verschlimmbessern |
| 06:17.22 | Shirik | [v]: To make something worse in an honest but failed attempt to improve it; to disimprove |
| 06:28.46 | nebula169 | disimprove is my new favorite English word |
| 06:29.08 | Stanzilla | i actually use that pretty often, Shirik |
| 06:30.39 | airtonix | does skype do group video/audio chat like google hangouts? |
| 06:30.50 | Stanzilla | yes but not for free |
| 06:30.54 | airtonix | lame |
| 06:30.57 | Stanzilla | video is premium |
| 06:31.02 | Stanzilla | audio is free |
| 06:31.25 | nebula169 | only one person in the call needs to have the premium sub |
| 06:32.14 | airtonix | so for free four people can audio chat? |
| 06:32.20 | Semlar | yes |
| 06:32.33 | Stanzilla | more than four |
| 06:32.46 | Semlar | and skype is by far the best quality voip program i've ever used |
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| 06:34.56 | Stanzilla | indeed |
| 06:35.10 | Stanzilla | never heard people fart in greater detail over the internet |
| 06:35.15 | airtonix | i have |
| 06:35.36 | airtonix | 1440p youtube videos |
| 06:36.09 | Semlar | can you hear the pixels |
| 06:36.35 | airtonix | but i agree, skype is amazingly good at sending the conversation to the nsa while loosing only a minute amount of the quality. |
| 06:36.58 | airtonix | while also blasting you with adverts |
| 06:37.21 | airtonix | i mean it's like the the first rule of the zombie apocolypse |
| 06:37.33 | airtonix | The Double Tap: just to make sure. |
| 06:37.49 | Semlar | has anyone told you you ramble |
| 06:38.14 | airtonix | have I offended you? |
| 06:38.26 | airtonix | i'm sorry |
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| 06:39.37 | airtonix | i wasn't aware you were sensitive to zombie bigotry |
| 06:41.37 | Semlar | it's just that you've gone from comparing skype's audio quality to a high resolution youtube video to expressing paranoia about the nsa listening in on your conversations to complaining about advertisements and something about zombies |
| 06:43.55 | airtonix | it's not my fault you can follow the thread. keep up by joves! |
| 06:46.43 | nebula169 | i've always used skype with a plugin for pidgin, still need to have the offical client open, but calls and messages show up in pidgin |
| 06:47.11 | Stanzilla | how annoying |
| 06:47.27 | nebula169 | hm? |
| 06:47.35 | Stanzilla | to have both clients open |
| 06:47.54 | nebula169 | i mean it just sits in the tray using no resources |
| 06:48.03 | airtonix | "no resources" |
| 06:48.10 | Stanzilla | skype is the only IM left on my pc |
| 06:48.32 | airtonix | i only use skype for one person |
| 06:48.37 | Stanzilla | mom? |
| 06:48.38 | airtonix | everyone else uses google hangouts |
| 06:49.36 | airtonix | Stanzilla: nah i don't call ya mum on skype |
| 06:49.48 | Stanzilla | ok |
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| 07:00.30 | karl_w_w | yeah no, 27 inches is huge |
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| 07:13.35 | airtonix | karl_w_w: but no one has had a problem with it so far |
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| 07:48.11 | karl_w_w | oh my gosh a display without dithering it's so nice |
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| 07:51.12 | nevcairiel | first time you have a decent screen, huh |
| 07:51.19 | Neffi | you mean 8-bit native, not 6-bit? |
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| 07:54.38 | airtonix | what screen are talking about |
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| 08:00.09 | karl_w_w | but when i plug something into one of my card's mini displayports it stop putting out a picture until I restart |
| 08:01.38 | karl_w_w | and oh man I'm gonna need to speed my mouse up |
| 08:03.24 | airtonix | karl_w_w: plz |
| 08:04.26 | karl_w_w | how may I please you airtonix |
| 08:05.01 | airtonix | what screen are you talking about |
| 08:05.19 | karl_w_w | http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27EA63V-P-led-monitor |
| 08:11.33 | Neffi | It probably is 8-bit, but IPS can come in 6-bit too |
| 08:12.20 | Mr_Rabies | the way this picture is cropped reminds me of the goldeneye 007 boxart http://www.lg.com/us/images/computer-products/features/5.-lg-monitor-feature-img-detail_Cinema_Screen.jpg |
| 08:12.43 | Neffi | Specifically a select few variants of e-IPS use 6-bit + AFRC. I don't think that monitor does though, but I can't find solid info |
| 08:13.06 | airtonix | why Mr_Rabies |
| 08:14.23 | Mr_Rabies | because, airtonix http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/darr3n/1240785216881-590x354.jpg oh god photobucket |
| 08:14.31 | Mr_Rabies | too lazy to rehost |
| 08:14.37 | airtonix | you suck |
| 08:15.00 | Mr_Rabies | it looks like the whole monitor is shaped like that in the cropped version |
| 08:15.16 | Mr_Rabies | like it's randomly off center and super wide |
| 08:15.21 | airtonix | i don't see it |
| 08:15.29 | nevcairiel | nor me |
| 08:15.34 | airtonix | there's no monitor on that box art |
| 08:15.50 | karl_w_w | 16.7 million colours = 8 bit, Neffi |
| 08:16.03 | karl_w_w | 16 or 16.2 million = 6 bit dithered |
| 08:16.30 | airtonix | karl_w_w: thine sow == 2 bit |
| 08:17.32 | Neffi | karl_w_w: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/23.htm#colour_depths |
| 08:17.49 | Neffi | It's not dithering. |
| 08:18.00 | karl_w_w | I have no idea how they managed to make his face look like that on the goldeneye box |
| 08:18.10 | nevcairiel | FRC is temporal dithering |
| 08:18.31 | airtonix | karl_w_w: it's easy. raise hand holding gun. |
| 08:18.37 | airtonix | align with face |
| 08:18.45 | airtonix | bam |
| 08:18.52 | nevcairiel | karl_w_w: its part of the hand |
| 08:18.55 | nevcairiel | not the face |
| 08:19.26 | karl_w_w | why would he have his hand there |
| 08:19.33 | nevcairiel | because its holding the gun? |
| 08:19.42 | airtonix | because that's how you aim down the iron sights |
| 08:19.55 | airtonix | haven't you played wolfenstein? |
| 08:20.34 | karl_w_w | 3d? yes |
| 08:20.40 | airtonix | karl_w_w: pls spawn in cherno |
| 08:21.36 | pompy1 | lol http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Theft-Auto-Kindle-Edition/dp/B00HSC64JE/ only a matter of time till Rockstar Games is on this developers ass...I like the shit they put in all caps and stuff |
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| 08:23.54 | airtonix | look at the reviews |
| 08:24.06 | airtonix | people are so mad they can't write properly |
| 08:24.29 | airtonix | This game is a ripop because I that that this game was resale the actual game so people do not buy this game or pene of junk |
| 08:24.52 | pompy1 | haha |
| 08:24.54 | karl_w_w | is battle.net down or something? |
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| 08:25.29 | VIad | at work with my pc, using remote desktop to work at home machine |
| 08:25.44 | Clamsoda | Hey, does anyone have some insight on how many table lookups it would take for unpack to start being faster? |
| 08:25.44 | pompy1 | cheater |
| 08:25.53 | VIad | nothing beats the setup at home :D |
| 08:26.09 | airtonix | VIad: being at home does. |
| 08:26.38 | karl_w_w | but part of the draw of the setup at home is that it has chocolate on demand, you can't remote desktop that |
| 08:26.49 | VIad | hehe |
| 08:27.06 | VIad | "Best regards, <name>" or just "Regards, <name>" when ending an mail? hmm |
| 08:27.46 | VIad | Clamsoda: not sure, but if you only unpack a couple of values just directly assign instead :) |
| 08:28.16 | karl_w_w | wow, so many websites are completely unsuited to 1920 pixels of width |
| 08:28.29 | Semlar | it's more about readability than performance |
| 08:29.29 | karl_w_w | steam is just hilarious |
| 08:29.47 | karl_w_w | there's more space than there is content |
| 08:30.12 | karl_w_w | gonna have to start doing things in windows |
| 08:31.02 | Semlar | i think it would take a lot of table lookups to be slower than unpack, if it's even possible |
| 08:31.45 | Semlar | i mean unpack has the overhead of the function call plus doing essentially the same thing behind the scenes |
| 08:33.00 | pompy1 | karl_w_w: possibly https://www.facebook.com/groups/2228391326/permalink/10152147706526327/?stream_ref=1 |
| 08:33.35 | VIad | unpacking combat log is easier |
| 08:33.49 | VIad | unpacking RGB colors (3 items table) would be overkill :P |
| 08:34.16 | Semlar | it's just a convenience thing |
| 08:34.38 | Semlar | and you don't have to write t[1], t[2], t[3], t[4] |
| 08:35.56 | Clamsoda | That's what I assumed Semlar. |
| 08:35.59 | Clamsoda | Thanks much. |
| 08:36.28 | Semlar | function calls are relatively slow in lua though if you're really worried about performance just don't call it a lot |
| 08:36.54 | Clamsoda | I'm not "really worried" about anything, just trying to gain a deeper understanding. |
| 08:37.31 | karl_w_w | it came back up pompy1 |
| 08:38.04 | VIad | local r, g, b = rgb[1], rgb[2], rgb[3] -- isn't that bad though |
| 08:38.05 | Clamsoda | But, I do remember reading something where Phanx mentioned deep table calls become slower than unpack at a certain point |
| 08:38.34 | Clamsoda | like table[nest][nest1][nest2][nest3][1] table[nest][nest1][nest2][nest3][2] table[nest][nest1][nest2][nest3][3] table[nest][nest1][nest2][nest3][4] |
| 08:38.36 | Semlar | you mean like nested table lookups? |
| 08:38.41 | Clamsoda | That unpacking table[nest][nest1][nest2][nest3] was faster |
| 08:38.49 | VIad | hehe |
| 08:38.54 | VIad | what about |
| 08:39.07 | Semlar | but you could assign table[nest][nest1][nest2][nest3] to a variable and use that |
| 08:39.09 | VIad | local temp = table[nest][nest1][nest2] |
| 08:39.20 | Semlar | you don't have to keep looking that up over and over |
| 08:39.34 | Clamsoda | Yeah, that's true. |
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| 08:55.13 | karl_w_w | warrior are ridiculous |
| 08:55.22 | karl_w_w | in hearthstone |
| 08:55.59 | karl_w_w | they do 23 damage from an empty board using 2 cards |
| 09:01.17 | Neffi | Semlar: |
| 09:01.45 | Neffi | danger zone |
| 09:08.49 | Semlar | neffi |
| 09:11.06 | Neffi | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:11.28 | Semlar | how do people sleep |
| 09:11.55 | Neffi | When you figure that one out, let me know |
| 09:12.21 | Semlar | alcohol? |
| 09:12.53 | Neffi | keeps me up |
| 09:12.59 | Semlar | more alcohol? |
| 09:13.46 | Neffi | Doesn't work on me |
| 09:13.52 | Neffi | I cant sleep till I sober up |
| 09:16.58 | Semlar | drugs?? |
| 09:17.56 | airtonix | hey do you think christians like a game of thrones |
| 09:18.08 | airtonix | i reckon it's their favourite story |
| 09:18.19 | Neffi | why? |
| 09:18.27 | Semlar | what about the other one |
| 09:18.32 | DJJeff | Dear Blizzard Entertainment, I have played WoW for over 4 years now, Please stop charging money to move servers and change factions |
| 09:18.37 | airtonix | Semlar: tron? |
| 09:18.44 | Semlar | lord of the rings |
| 09:18.47 | DJJeff | Thanks, A really upset WoW player |
| 09:18.57 | Neffi | DJJeff: I've played WoW for twice that, and I'm glad they do |
| 09:18.59 | airtonix | Semlar: or do you mean, dexter? |
| 09:19.09 | DJJeff | Why? |
| 09:19.14 | airtonix | DJJeff: umadbro? |
| 09:19.37 | Neffi | Every time some shitty "pro" gamer utters something, it ushers in a new FOTM. That counts for servers and factions too |
| 09:19.47 | DJJeff | airtonix: if I was mad I would be on the phone with Blizzard screaming my head off |
| 09:19.48 | Neffi | You got masses of people rerolling factions or switching servers |
| 09:20.00 | airtonix | DJJeff: you are displeased with my actions then advance upon me brethren |
| 09:20.04 | Neffi | It already happens badly enough. If it were free, it would make it much worse |
| 09:20.27 | Semlar | it's best to just put airtonix on ignore when you join the channel dj jazzy jeff |
| 09:20.30 | DJJeff | sorry what is FOTM? |
| 09:20.33 | Semlar | flavor of the month |
| 09:20.40 | Neffi | Servers have gone from 5-to-1 A:H to 5-to-1 H:A because some "pro" gamer says the new racials are bettere |
| 09:21.03 | DJJeff | my problem is not A:H H:A ratio |
| 09:21.10 | Neffi | It destroys servers for the people that play to enjoy it |
| 09:21.12 | DJJeff | my problem is I wanna play with my friends |
| 09:21.24 | Neffi | Now you can with x-realm groups |
| 09:21.39 | DJJeff | but you can not x-faction groups |
| 09:21.48 | DJJeff | that would just be stupid |
| 09:21.49 | Neffi | Pretty soon you will have your heirlooms on every server too, so rerolling will be easier |
| 09:21.52 | Semlar | you should definitely be able to transfer servers for free and it's completely ridiculous how much it costs |
| 09:21.57 | airtonix | DJJeff: blizzard doesn't care what you want, all they want is your money |
| 09:22.09 | DJJeff | fair enough |
| 09:22.21 | DJJeff | actually.... Instant 90 would be nice! |
| 09:22.48 | Semlar | why even play the game at a certain point |
| 09:23.23 | DJJeff | some people have like 26 level 90's |
| 09:23.25 | DJJeff | I have 1 ok |
| 09:23.35 | airtonix | your point is? |
| 09:23.46 | DJJeff | I would like to be able to raid with my friends |
| 09:23.51 | Neffi | So maybe now's the time to level up again. Try a new class. Experience the other faction's quests and lore. |
| 09:24.00 | Neffi | Some of the material in WoW's questing is quite good |
| 09:24.06 | Semlar | it takes a lot longer to gear up a character than it does to level it |
| 09:24.16 | Neffi | It's end expansion anyway |
| 09:24.35 | DJJeff | Timeless isle makes gearing alts easy |
| 09:24.50 | DJJeff | but only for same faction? |
| 09:24.58 | airtonix | you should really move over to guildwars 2 |
| 09:25.01 | Semlar | saying it's the end of the expansion doesn't mean anything when the next one isn't coming out any time soon |
| 09:25.11 | Neffi | So what if you go back to the beginning of gearing up. It's a game. If the journey isn't compelling to you, why are you playing? |
| 09:26.17 | Semlar | leveling a character isn't compelling to me at all but removing the leveling process would hurt the game |
| 09:26.25 | DJJeff | so BoA gear from timeless isle you can send x-faction |
| 09:26.37 | Neffi | yes you can send BoA cross faction |
| 09:26.53 | Neffi | And in the next xpac, cross-server too, by virtue that it will no longer be a single item |
| 09:26.54 | DJJeff | provided that alt is 90 |
| 09:27.12 | Semlar | i thought you could send boas cross server right now |
| 09:27.14 | Neffi | If they need to be 90 to use it, you can still *send* it |
| 09:27.34 | Neffi | Unless that changed like very recently, no semlar |
| 09:27.44 | Semlar | i'm almost positive you can |
| 09:28.16 | Semlar | it was in 5.4.2 |
| 09:28.33 | Neffi | Well that would be very recent. I'll look up the changes. |
| 09:28.39 | Semlar | not that recent |
| 09:28.47 | Neffi | I hope so, because I do wanna come back to level a couple new characters before WoD |
| 09:28.49 | Semlar | it was like a month ago |
| 09:29.13 | Neffi | Feels like less |
| 09:29.46 | Neffi | And now I'm gonna get pissed off again because all my damn agi-leather heirlooms are mysteriously gone |
| 09:29.56 | Neffi | And a GM said there's no record of them so I cant get them back |
| 09:30.08 | Semlar | because you put them in the mail and they're GONE FOREVER |
| 09:30.14 | Neffi | Now I actually have a reason to WANT them back |
| 09:30.18 | Semlar | which is the ultimate fate of all boas |
| 09:33.17 | Neffi | you were right semlar |
| 09:33.32 | Neffi | "Players are now able to mail account-bound items to other characters that reside on a different realm on the same account. To send cross-realm mail: enter the character's name, followed by a hyphen "-", followed by the realm name." |
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| 09:37.06 | DJJeff | heirlooms for horde is in Org? |
| 09:37.18 | Semlar | you can buy them in org |
| 09:37.30 | DJJeff | any idea where in org? |
| 09:37.42 | Semlar | over garrosh's house |
| 09:37.55 | DJJeff | I think its the justice point one ya? |
| 09:38.12 | DJJeff | or is their valor point heirloom |
| 09:38.21 | Semlar | not that i know of |
| 09:38.31 | DJJeff | off to wowhead I go.... |
| 09:38.39 | DJJeff | *whistles* |
| 09:38.47 | nebula169 | jp is up top, guild ones are down on the side |
| 09:39.06 | Semlar | honor heirlooms are in the hall of the brave |
| 09:40.25 | DJJeff | found an heirloom guide |
| 09:40.26 | DJJeff | http://www.wowhead.com/guide=1751 |
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| 09:53.17 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/HjIuxSA.jpg |
| 09:53.24 | Neffi | I'm for making this a thing |
| 09:53.37 | Semlar | no neffi |
| 09:53.50 | Neffi | you're so negative semlar |
| 09:53.59 | Semlar | no |
| 10:23.49 | Semlar | i like how my own hunter's mark doesn't even show up on targets for me any more |
| 10:25.10 | Semlar | there's like a secret version of it that applies itself when i cast certain things |
| 10:32.09 | jleclanche | Neffi: make what a thing? it's the truth |
| 10:45.39 | airtonix | 2012, lest we forget |
| 10:45.52 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:26.30 | karl_w_w | are the wow loading screens 16:10? |
| 12:26.54 | zenzio | from what I heard a long time ago, they're a mish-mash of different ones |
| 12:27.00 | zenzio | don't know if they fixed that |
| 12:27.34 | jleclanche | they still are |
| 12:27.41 | jleclanche | some are 16:10, some are 4:3 |
| 12:35.23 | nevcairiel | newer ones got wide-screened |
| 12:35.32 | nevcairiel | they redid a few old ones with cataclysm, but not all |
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| 13:04.06 | karl_w_w | yeah the old ones are 4:3, none are 16:9 |
| 13:33.04 | VIad | experiencing weird issues with diablo 3 :( |
| 13:33.10 | VIad | some kind of server lag-ish |
| 13:39.32 | karl_w_w | that's called |
| 13:39.36 | karl_w_w | diablo 3 |
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| 13:40.52 | VIad | I don't like it :( |
| 13:44.14 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:44.35 | VIad | will blizzard fix the raid hyperlinks for 6.x? :D |
| 13:45.58 | Lopeppeppy | Nope, no hoperlinks for joo. |
| 13:47.44 | Fisker | Hey Lopeppeppy |
| 13:47.47 | Fisker | It's monday |
| 13:49.01 | Lopeppeppy | I know, Fisker. I realized that when I woke up and saw what the cats had done while I was asleep |
| 13:49.22 | Fisker | They had tried to cheer your day up by lowering your standards? |
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| 14:08.07 | Lopeppeppy | Pretty much. Klepto Cat only steals things that can kill him, and he's good at it. |
| 14:09.04 | mitch0 | apparently not good enough |
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| 14:21.57 | karl_w_w | "Several critics booed The Fountain at the festival's press screening, while the film received a 10-minute standing ovation at the public screening the following evening." |
| 14:22.00 | karl_w_w | Critics. |
| 14:26.17 | mitch0 | were the creators there at the public screening? |
| 14:26.57 | Maldivia | or were the clapping like -- yes, this has an ending!! |
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| 14:39.44 | VIad | doesn't say it wasn't 10 minutes of golf-clapping |
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| 14:48.46 | Fisker | Well that's good Lopeppeppy |
| 14:50.47 | Lopeppeppy | The Fountain is a very, very weird film. I like to watch it back to back with Pan's Labyrinth for extra oddity. |
| 14:52.09 | mikma | cairenn: http://imgur.com/gallery/c8YzujH |
| 14:57.18 | karl_w_w | when people rip blurays I wish that instead of encoding the audio into 6 channel aac, killing the quality for ~ 100 MB and breaking compatability, they would just you know |
| 14:57.21 | karl_w_w | eat a dick |
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| 14:58.12 | mitch0 | karl_w_w: what's the default audio in bluray? |
| 14:58.34 | karl_w_w | dts or dolby digital |
| 14:58.37 | karl_w_w | or both |
| 14:58.48 | karl_w_w | usually the 7.1 channel variant |
| 14:59.32 | mitch0 | ah, so they go to 5.1 from 7.1? |
| 14:59.51 | mitch0 | be thankful they don't opt for stereo ;) |
| 14:59.53 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 15:00.02 | VIad | mono all the way |
| 15:00.06 | karl_w_w | the point is they go to aac |
| 15:00.17 | VIad | doesn't matter if you do mono |
| 15:00.23 | VIad | that's the beauty of mono - the simplicity |
| 15:00.30 | karl_w_w | I would bet that still most people's surround sound can't decode aac |
| 15:12.12 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jDl6bsoNF4 the number 3 shows just how op OTK warrior is |
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| 15:44.29 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hXd7AhS7BQ and number 3 in this on is hilarious |
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| 17:19.11 | karl_w_w | man health insurance is good |
| 17:20.10 | karl_w_w | today I went to the dentist, check-up and clean, got a bag with a new toothbrush, tube of toothpaste, roll of floss, small bottle of mouthwash, whole thing cost $16 |
| 17:21.40 | Fisker | what about woman health insurance karl_w_w |
| 17:21.41 | Fisker | huehuehue |
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| 17:22.39 | karl_w_w | I don't understand Fisker |
| 17:22.49 | karl_w_w | oh wait |
| 17:22.51 | karl_w_w | yes I do |
| 17:23.11 | karl_w_w | I don't know about woman health insurance, I've never been a woman |
| 17:40.59 | Shirik | wat |
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| 17:58.21 | teraleon | Does funkydude frequent this channel? |
| 17:58.28 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 17:58.31 | Fisker | no teraleon |
| 17:58.32 | Fisker | #wowace |
| 17:58.33 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 17:58.35 | teraleon | Ah. :/ |
| 18:00.06 | teraleon | I've been thinking about an addon idea to filter/categorize Trade chat messages into fake channels (i.e. you see them in an extra tab and as if coming from a channel like 4. LFG, 5. Guild Recruitment). |
| 18:00.29 | Shirik | from my fantasy draft group: "They should do a study on whether red bull increases reaction times. First banned substance in e-sports." |
| 18:03.59 | zenzelezz | Red Bull was banned from professional racing when it was discovered that athletes used the wings to take shortcuts |
| 18:04.17 | teraleon | Haha |
| 18:05.25 | teraleon | Anyone in the lvl 72-75 range on EU servers horde side? I'm running dungeons as a healer :P |
| 18:18.43 | teraleon | I have a tank that emotes he drinks red bull light and says, GAY WINGS WOOHOO |
| 18:18.44 | teraleon | Wtf .. |
| 18:19.14 | teraleon | He is also called Milkthatheal |
| 18:19.16 | TC-Work | Fisker: He has been here before. |
| 18:27.10 | teraleon | What is your opinion on websites tracking alts (guildox, wowprogress) in regards to privacy? |
| 18:30.44 | TC-Work | It has no bearing on real life so I tend not to care. |
| 18:40.21 | karl_w_w | first game of dota on my new monitor and I go 19-2 |
| 18:40.30 | karl_w_w | more screen is good |
| 18:42.14 | karl_w_w | and 26 assists |
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| 20:01.36 | VIad | karl_w_w: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFqhQvS4zXI&t=6m3s#t=6m3s |
| 20:03.20 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 20:03.43 | karl_w_w | funny thing is I sort of had one escape like that |
| 20:03.57 | karl_w_w | from a timbersaw who couldnt aim |
| 20:04.30 | karl_w_w | http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/of-the-best-things-that-have-ever-happened-on-4chan VIad |
| 20:06.55 | VIad | hehe |
| 20:06.55 | VIad | classic 4chan |
| 20:07.18 | karl_w_w | I was actually there to see one of them happen :P |
| 20:07.27 | karl_w_w | the motorcycle one |
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| 20:51.59 | Semlar | is there any way to tell if a spell is a DOT other than watching for SPELL_PERIODIC_DAMAGE |
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| 20:55.09 | karl_w_w | check if it's in the debuffs? |
| 20:56.02 | Semlar | i'm trying to filter the debuffs to only show my dots |
| 20:56.59 | karl_w_w | just keep a list of what is dots and compare |
| 20:59.50 | Semlar | i thought maybe the last 3 values of UnitAura might help but i haven't figured out exactly what they are |
| 21:00.10 | nevcairiel | check the docs? :p |
| 21:00.33 | nevcairiel | although some auras have aura-specific values |
| 21:00.46 | nevcairiel | strength of vengeance for example |
| 21:01.00 | Semlar | i know one of them is the same as the base damage of this dot |
| 21:01.13 | Semlar | and the first value is "true" |
| 21:01.44 | nevcairiel | the last constant parameter is "isCastByPlayer", are you sure thats not that one? :p |
| 21:02.12 | nevcairiel | s/parameter/return value/ |
| 21:02.58 | Semlar | hm, wowprog says the last 3 values are specific to the aura and the one before that is isBossDebuff |
| 21:03.13 | nevcairiel | there is one in between, isCastByPlayer |
| 21:03.37 | nevcairiel | its relatively new in that position, since 5.1 |
| 21:03.41 | nevcairiel | wowprog may need updating |
| 21:03.59 | Semlar | the returns i have are the spellID, false, nil, true, 3240, 0 |
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| 21:04.18 | Semlar | 3240 is the base damage on wowhead for serpent sting which is the dot i'm tracking |
| 21:04.39 | nevcairiel | not sure the variable extra arguments are documented completely someplace |
| 21:04.41 | nevcairiel | probably not |
| 21:05.25 | Semlar | i have no idea what canApplyAura is supposed to represent because it's false for this |
| 21:05.50 | nevcairiel | usually if you can cast this particular spell |
| 21:06.02 | Semlar | maybe it's just for buffs or something |
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| 21:06.13 | Semlar | i mean this is my serpent sting |
| 21:06.22 | nevcairiel | might be a buff thing |
| 21:10.18 | Semlar | doesn't look like the extra values are reliable enough for this |
| 21:10.35 | Semlar | it doesn't even have anything for a murder of crows |
| 21:12.24 | Semlar | it probably has something to do with the values it drops into the tooltip |
| 21:15.58 | Ackis | free credit monitoring for one year: https://creditmonitoring.target.com/ |
| 21:18.46 | Semlar | i'm not actually sure a murder of crows is even a normal dot |
| 21:19.10 | Semlar | i think it might behave more like pets |
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