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| 00:08.30 | Sintacks | I finally got L4D2 |
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| 00:45.15 | Arrow|phone | Steam still down? |
| 00:49.00 | Stanzilla | not for me |
| 00:52.53 | Arrow|phone | The store, not the app |
| 00:53.16 | Arrow|phone | I still can't load the store |
| 00:56.07 | kd3 | the website's loading. slow |
| 01:01.21 | Funkeh` | is there anyone around actually in a connected guild? |
| 01:01.46 | Funkeh` | or more accurately a connected realm guild with people from another server |
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| 01:35.38 | MysticalOS | Funkeh`, my alts guild has people from two diff realms in it |
| 01:35.59 | Amarande | Guild membership actually works cross-realm now? *blink* |
| 01:36.08 | MysticalOS | for connected realms yes |
| 01:36.12 | kd3 | only on connected realms |
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| 01:56.52 | kd3 | whee, christmas special about to air on bbc-america |
| 02:00.19 | Arrowmaster | but i already watched it |
| 02:00.24 | Arrowmaster | and i dont get bbc-america |
| 02:06.36 | Mihau | I get BBC-Downloaded. >_> |
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| 02:22.46 | Dagmar | Gramma's not afraid to ask for what she wants |
| 02:22.51 | Dagmar | oops |
| 02:23.40 | Neffi_ | O.o |
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| 03:14.03 | Neffi | why does Quassel keep blinking when I've got no pings? |
| 03:14.16 | Neffi | Semlar: what kind of sorcery are you pulling? |
| 03:14.31 | Semlar | i did nothing |
| 03:14.49 | Neffi | wtf |
| 03:15.21 | Neffi | Quassel just joined #shiibot by itsrlf |
| 03:15.25 | Neffi | Should I be worried? |
| 03:15.41 | Semlar | no worries |
| 03:15.46 | kd3|hate`net | no, the channel's set to forward there if something's up |
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| 03:47.21 | Neffi | semlar |
| 03:47.30 | Semlar | neffi |
| 03:47.36 | Neffi | hey semlar |
| 03:47.41 | Semlar | feliz navidad |
| 03:47.47 | Neffi | and to you too |
| 03:47.55 | Neffi | hey Semlar decide if I should return to Wo |
| 03:48.02 | Neffi | s/Wo/WoW/ |
| 03:48.13 | Semlar | probably not |
| 03:48.30 | Neffi | ok |
| 03:48.43 | Neffi | why you say dat? |
| 03:49.13 | Semlar | it's probably just going to be coasting until the expansion |
| 03:50.14 | Neffi | Probably gonna level a character or two, farm up transmog, etc until ESO comes out so I can decide if it sucks or not |
| 03:50.27 | Neffi | That will probably be the deciding factor in whether or not I get WoD |
| 03:51.01 | Neffi | This way if it does suck, I've got a couple more 90s to choose from the day the next xpac hits |
| 03:51.27 | kd3 | hahaha; https://twitter.com/Kaydeethree/status/416053082498535424 |
| 03:55.26 | A-KO | I hate you :( |
| 03:55.26 | A-KO | I've never had it drop |
| 03:55.41 | A-KO | I gave up on farming it |
| 03:56.54 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/qydc0.png |
| 03:57.09 | Neffi | ^ kd3 when it dropped |
| 03:57.28 | kd3 | I actually broke out laughing |
| 04:05.35 | Amarande | I guess for me WoD will depend on whether I'm glued like a fly on flypaper to some other game at the time, yeah |
| 04:05.52 | Amarande | playikng LOTRO at the moment, and being that I'm in the Dark Jedi Brotherhood a return to SW:TOR is pretty much definitely in the cards as well |
| 04:09.36 | Neffi | oh, nice find from random mode: http://imgur.com/gallery/19mYP |
| 04:10.02 | Neffi | 227 pictures of the original WoW alpha |
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| 04:15.57 | airtonix | why did they change the bit infront of the ironforge bank? |
| 04:16.29 | Neffi | which? |
| 04:16.37 | Dagmar | Wow. Old school (i.e. bad) lighting in Ironforge |
| 04:16.45 | Neffi | The original IF was very cramped and hard to navigate |
| 04:17.19 | Dagmar | Yep. These are definitely from alpha |
| 04:17.41 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/mHBs5abh.jpg lol |
| 04:18.12 | airtonix | old one looks way more interesting |
| 04:18.42 | Dagmar | neffi: Lovely placeholders. Heh |
| 04:18.54 | Neffi | I think that might be.. oh, what's his name |
| 04:19.16 | Neffi | airtonix: What I've seen of the original Undercity I like more, but it too was hard to navigate. They made necessary changes. |
| 04:20.39 | airtonix | there was a second gateway to the nether? |
| 04:20.42 | airtonix | i mean outlands |
| 04:21.10 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/VVj3T4eh.jpg haha |
| 04:21.11 | kd3 | no? they've redone the dark portal area a few times |
| 04:21.21 | Neffi | It's things like this that make me love the WoW devs |
| 04:21.43 | Neffi | airtonix: I think the lore says there's more than 1. I dont recall too well though |
| 04:22.14 | kd3 | ner'zhul created a crapload of portals on draenor... that's what caused it to go boom. only one of those portals points to azeroth |
| 04:22.24 | kd3 | (you can see another port in zangarmarsh on the west coast) |
| 04:24.02 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/vpmcrsLh.jpg ah yes |
| 04:24.14 | Neffi | Just reminded me that there was originally 4 portals |
| 04:24.27 | Semlar | lights |
| 04:24.30 | Neffi | at least in the game world |
| 04:24.39 | Neffi | Those existed for quite a while, not just alpha |
| 04:29.21 | Amarande | ah, were IF and UC not originally large round hub structures, then? |
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| 04:30.02 | Neffi | No, they were, just more complicated |
| 04:30.16 | Amarande | I'm trying to think how they could really be that much worse |
| 04:30.23 | Amarande | really the only problem with IF and UC is remembering where everything is |
| 04:31.32 | Neffi | Both were multi-leveled, and you needed to travel much further to navigate between the levels. UC had a ton more "water", so you couldn't really run a straight shot to a known point |
| 04:31.55 | Amarande | ah |
| 04:31.55 | Amarande | so kinda like post-Cata Orgrimmar |
| 04:31.57 | Amarande | GAH POST CATA ORGRIMMAR |
| 04:32.19 | Neffi | No, I'd say post-Cata Org isn't as bad |
| 04:32.20 | airtonix | qqmoar |
| 04:32.42 | Amarande | heh when my monk on Illidan first hit Orgrimmar I was once again reminded of why I've been mostly playing Alliance since Cata :P |
| 04:33.29 | Neffi | I don't get what the problem is |
| 04:33.37 | Neffi | Org is simple and not hard to navigate |
| 04:35.15 | Neffi | Now hit up TB and tell me Org isn't a clusterfuck (without a flying mount) |
| 04:35.37 | Neffi | Gotta train 2 professions at once? Better be prepared to run up that circular staircase like 12 times |
| 04:36.08 | Amarande | heh, as capitals go, Undercity's always been my fave for Horde |
| 04:36.32 | Amarande | perhaps Silvermoon, but that's more out of the way, and it also tends to feel much more lonely and bare |
| 04:36.32 | Neffi | same' |
| 04:36.52 | Neffi | I like Silvermoon's style, but UC's my favorite |
| 04:37.14 | Neffi | Darnassus, far as Alliance goes |
| 06:54.45 | jleclanche | Why did blizzard split EU and US on hearthstone |
| 06:54.46 | jleclanche | seriously |
| 06:55.20 | nebula169 | probably because it uses the existing system, so region split |
| 06:55.33 | jleclanche | they better fix it, honestly. |
| 06:56.00 | nebula169 | actually, d3 and sc2 aren't split like that, are they? |
| 06:56.05 | jleclanche | d3 is |
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| 08:02.33 | Mr_Rabies | they really should eventually merge them |
| 08:02.44 | Mr_Rabies | it's kinda dumb that i can't play with any of my eurobros :( |
| 08:02.58 | Mr_Rabies | i guess it would make patch day a bit of a nightmare but i dunno |
| 08:06.58 | nebula169 | can still have different regions, just not different licenses for them |
| 08:33.56 | Gethe | sc2 and d3 are still separated by region, a US player cant play with EU. but they all use the same client so you can switch between them at will. |
| 08:38.31 | airtonix | lol@dayz: "Bambi" |
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| 09:21.44 | nevcairiel | Gethe: actually you at least can play together without buying a second D3, just not with the same characters |
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| 13:57.33 | karl_w_w | does iphone have a thing to locate your phone if you lost it, like android's one? |
| 13:57.43 | g0urra | yes |
| 13:58.25 | VIad | mitigating the danger of malicious bytecode http://www.lua.org/wshop11/Cawley.pdf |
| 13:59.57 | Fisker | asd |
| 14:09.04 | airtonix | so Fisker, every play dayz? |
| 14:09.07 | airtonix | ever* |
| 14:12.20 | karl_w_w | left 4 dead 2 is free for 48 minutes |
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| 15:35.47 | karl_w_w | http://falkvinge.net/2013/12/18/nsa-fallout-hits-american-business-to-the-tune-of-four-billion-dollars-brazil-ditches-boeing-buys-gripen/ very good |
| 15:43.58 | jleclanche | hmm |
| 15:44.28 | jleclanche | is there a way in chrome to send gzipped text/plain and have it decompress and read it? |
| 15:45.37 | jleclanche | maybe it can read Content-Encoding: gzip ... |
| 15:45.52 | Dagmar | Yes. Any decent browser can handle gzipped output now |
| 15:46.00 | jleclanche | well, i know it can read gzip |
| 15:46.05 | Dagmar | It's even a relatively common module for Apache now |
| 15:46.13 | jleclanche | im just wondering if it can read gzipped text/plain |
| 15:46.22 | Dagmar | Why would it not? |
| 15:46.25 | jleclanche | well |
| 15:46.34 | jleclanche | to be more specific its being sent as application/x-gzip |
| 15:46.47 | jleclanche | and im using the media type extension to change that to text/plain |
| 15:46.55 | jleclanche | but i cant figure out a way to force Content-Encoding |
| 15:46.56 | Dagmar | There's a header dance you'll need to do, but it sounds like you're on the right track |
| 15:47.00 | jleclanche | yeah |
| 15:47.02 | Dagmar | Just send the header |
| 15:47.18 | jleclanche | i dont control the server |
| 15:47.39 | Dagmar | The webserver generally won't override/replace any header you sent if it's expected to be unique in the head of the transaction |
| 15:48.14 | Dagmar | If you send out `Language: Idjit` as a header even if the machine knows it should be Catalan, the server generally won't second-guess you |
| 15:48.35 | Dagmar | ...& you can use wget to verify what the server is sesnding |
| 15:50.21 | Dagmar | If you're emitting this as a response to a query being handed to _code_ you've written, just look for Accept-encoding: gzip in the query, and cat the gzipped file after you've send Content-encoding: gzip. It *should* "just work" |
| 15:50.38 | Dagmar | There's nothing unusual or fancy about the gzip encoding that's being done |
| 15:51.44 | Dagmar | Just don't conflate the deflate and gzip methods |
| 15:53.06 | Dagmar | As far as I know one of the advantages to having mod_gzip available is that you can just compress your entire goddamn website up front on the disk. People using ShitBrowser 0.9 beta might not be able to view it, but fuck those people. |
| 16:00.10 | airtonix | no one needs those government bludge workers anyway |
| 16:00.45 | airtonix | i mean who the fuck are they to be using EmbraceExtendExclude Pro v8 anway |
| 16:02.59 | zenzelezz | this is sadly so much better than most new music... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bihm6g8EfW0 |
| 16:05.07 | jleclanche | Dagmar: looking at the code of force-media-type it looks like a lost cause trying to add Content-Encoding support. The different content types are done as a single text block separated by newlines |
| 16:05.07 | jleclanche | :( |
| 16:05.48 | airtonix | zenzelezz: <insert dubstep> |
| 16:06.57 | jleclanche | zenzelezz: france used to have a pretty popular celtic rap band in the early 00s |
| 16:07.03 | jleclanche | and by pretty popular i mean insanely popular |
| 16:07.34 | zenzelezz | did they get any international recognition? I don't recall anything like that |
| 16:07.49 | airtonix | usa !== international |
| 16:07.57 | zenzelezz | I said nothing about USA |
| 16:08.02 | airtonix | i did |
| 16:08.09 | airtonix | just then |
| 16:08.18 | jleclanche | nothing in decent quality on youtube |
| 16:08.30 | zenzelezz | :-/ |
| 16:08.31 | zenzelezz | name? |
| 16:08.34 | jleclanche | zenzelezz: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5deu |
| 16:08.34 | jleclanche | there |
| 16:09.05 | zenzelezz | cheers, will have a listen - sounds interesting |
| 16:09.06 | jleclanche | i dont know how popular that was outside france |
| 16:09.49 | zenzelezz | yo Spotify; I'm logged in and I already have a premium account... how about you take that into account when showing me your site... |
| 16:09.59 | zenzelezz | "Try premium!" |
| 16:10.20 | jleclanche | I bet it's jnwhiteh's fault again |
| 16:10.25 | zenzelezz | usually is |
| 16:10.52 | nevcairiel | skype has the same issues, it still advertises its premium account even if you have one, kinda annoying |
| 16:11.10 | jleclanche | that's a feature |
| 16:11.36 | jleclanche | it's so you can look like you didn't give skype money for a premium account when people look over your shoulder. |
| 16:12.05 | nevcairiel | same thing for spotify then? :P |
| 16:12.06 | foxlit | why is that desirable? |
| 16:12.24 | airtonix | because no one wants to be known for giving microsoft money! |
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| 16:12.36 | zenzelezz | jleclanche: seems there's plenty of his/theirs on Spotify |
| 16:12.44 | airtonix | "Oh you're that guy. that guy who gave microsoft money" |
| 16:13.11 | jleclanche | if you bought a pc of any sort chances are high you gave microsoft money |
| 16:13.19 | jleclanche | but at least, not for *skype*. |
| 16:13.40 | jleclanche | zenzelezz: its not all celtic rap |
| 16:13.57 | jleclanche | but they had at least one if not two albums, i dont remember |
| 16:14.20 | zenzelezz | "Panique Celtique"? |
| 16:14.22 | jleclanche | sounds right |
| 16:14.22 | airtonix | jleclanche: my system76 laptop? |
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| 16:14.56 | Kalroth | i steal all my hardware and software, that way im not funding Microsoft and by proxy the USA government |
| 16:15.11 | airtonix | Kalroth: but you incite more expienditure |
| 16:15.20 | Kalroth | for me to steal |
| 16:15.28 | airtonix | "oh dear me the laptops been stolen *again*" |
| 16:15.50 | airtonix | "guess we'll have to buy more macbook 'not-computers' again" |
| 16:15.58 | foxlit | clearly he only steals from people who can't afford additional expenditures. |
| 16:16.09 | airtonix | what kind of bastard are you |
| 16:16.16 | Kalroth | i'm like robin hoody, i steal from the poor and give to me |
| 16:16.51 | Kalroth | i tried stealing from the rich, for obvious reasons, but they can afford good alarm systems and the cops actually come when they call |
| 16:17.03 | airtonix | clearly bad thief then |
| 16:17.23 | airtonix | you're supposed to be the cops when you're cleaning the place out |
| 16:17.24 | Kalroth | not my fault, i used a deodorant on the lasers, like in the movies |
| 16:17.28 | Kalroth | and it didnt work |
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| 16:18.37 | foxlit | public logging of chat channels + internet never goes away = one day everyone will regret everything they have ever said. |
| 16:19.16 | Fisker | I love you foxlit |
| 16:19.16 | Fisker | Now you will regret what I said |
| 16:19.26 | zenzelezz | don't worry, we all cry to Bryan Adams sometimes |
| 16:19.35 | foxlit | but you know it can never be, Fisker! |
| 16:19.45 | foxlit | after all, you're from... Fyn. |
| 16:19.49 | Fisker | no |
| 16:20.00 | Kalroth | foxlit: yes, it's clearly stopping people from posting stupid shit on facebook |
| 16:20.06 | Fisker | But I see how it is |
| 16:20.21 | Fisker | Women are from omicron persei 7 and men are from omicron persei 9 |
| 16:20.26 | Fisker | and 7 8 9 :( |
| 16:20.45 | Kalroth | wow you're a fynbo |
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| 16:20.53 | Kalroth | that explains a lot |
| 16:21.02 | Fisker | I'm not |
| 16:21.18 | foxlit | the lady doth protest too much, methinks. |
| 16:21.25 | Kalroth | flad uj', dær kommer en jætjager |
| 16:22.52 | Fisker | There's almost no worse insult thatn than being called a fynboer |
| 16:22.57 | Fisker | except maybe a jyde |
| 16:23.04 | Kalroth | why you |
| 16:23.06 | Kalroth | i outta |
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| 16:23.38 | Kalroth | wait, what's left? jylland, fyn and sweden? |
| 16:23.45 | foxlit | bornholm. |
| 16:23.50 | Kalroth | right! |
| 16:23.54 | foxlit | and the other 400 million islands. |
| 16:24.00 | Kalroth | so Fisker is a bornholmer |
| 16:24.24 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:24.35 | Fisker | one day I may be Kalroth |
| 16:24.56 | zenzelezz | I dread the day Fisker is Kalroth |
| 16:25.12 | Fisker | Why do you dread Kalroth being a good guy? |
| 16:25.21 | Kalroth | :( |
| 16:26.28 | Fisker | :(? |
| 16:26.36 | Kalroth | i am a good guy!! |
| 16:26.47 | foxlit | Kalroth: foxlit: yes, it's clearly stopping people from posting stupid shit on facebook << I don't think that's the point, anyhow. |
| 16:27.03 | Fisker | Hey foxlit don't facebook then |
| 16:27.05 | Fisker | however |
| 16:27.12 | Kalroth | well you said that one day people will regret |
| 16:27.13 | Fisker | This borgerservice thing feels like our helpdesk :'( |
| 16:27.25 | Kalroth | and i don't think that'll day will ever come |
| 16:27.48 | Kalroth | facebook and twitter and most python forums are proof of that |
| 16:28.24 | Kalroth | http://i.imgur.com/jELtHBn.gif best gif of the holidays |
| 16:28.32 | Fisker | People regret what they said on facebook, twitter and python forums every day |
| 16:28.44 | Kalroth | you'll regret saying that, Fisker |
| 16:28.49 | Fisker | Yes |
| 16:29.01 | Fisker | Like the other day I was trying to get help with Python |
| 16:29.06 | Fisker | and they told me to fuck off and install linux |
| 16:29.59 | Kalroth | rude |
| 16:31.07 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 16:31.58 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 16:32.50 | airtonix | fuck off and install windows |
| 16:33.01 | airtonix | is that better? |
| 16:36.09 | jleclanche | to be fair i hear "fuck off and install windows" a lot more than the alternative |
| 16:36.25 | VIad | not fan of taking sides - so I'll just say "fuck off" and leave |
| 16:37.55 | Fisker | That doesn't even make sense in the context of python jleclanche |
| 16:38.08 | jleclanche | i mean in general |
| 16:38.15 | Fisker | YOU THINK THIS IS A GAME? |
| 16:38.26 | airtonix | Fisker: why not, python and virtualenv are installable on windows |
| 16:38.38 | airtonix | you even can use git and bash! |
| 16:38.45 | airtonix | and there exists Cmder |
| 16:39.15 | Fisker | You go ahead and find someone recommending someone with python related issues to install windows |
| 16:39.33 | VIad | get osx |
| 16:39.34 | airtonix | Fisker: install windows |
| 16:39.45 | Fisker | I'm not having python issues |
| 16:39.51 | airtonix | yes you are |
| 16:39.58 | airtonix | you're not using it, that's an issue |
| 16:40.12 | Fisker | Not exactly |
| 16:40.19 | Fisker | I expected better from you airtonix |
| 16:40.26 | airtonix | i'm le tired |
| 16:40.35 | Fisker | You could've told me how I had deep seeded traumatical experiences with python |
| 16:40.51 | airtonix | with a python? |
| 16:41.21 | Fisker | Why would I have that with a snake? |
| 16:41.51 | airtonix | anyway Fisker |
| 16:41.58 | airtonix | have you played DayZ ? |
| 16:43.30 | Fisker | no |
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| 17:59.38 | kd3 | grr at having to reset people's firefox profiles who should know better... |
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| 18:08.30 | Syllios | is there a specific time when all the slash commands (SlashCmdList) must be registered by? For example, before the character enters the world, or can we register them whenever? (by register i mean assign a handler function to a command) |
| 18:09.14 | zenzelezz | I think it's whenever, but I'm not certain |
| 18:09.31 | zenzelezz | should be easy enough to test, just /run the commands manually after you've logged in |
| 18:09.52 | Syllios | Yeah i was trying it but either I did something wrong or it's not possible |
| 18:10.26 | Syllios | Then again i wrote like 100 lines of code then i tried it. maybe I didn't catch the mistake, let me try again. |
| 18:10.34 | kd3 | there's no event where it's required to be handled |
| 18:10.45 | kd3 | the guide on the wiki just says 'whenever' |
| 18:10.50 | kd3 | http://wowpedia.org/Creating_a_slash_command |
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| 18:25.17 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72RqpItxd8M |
| 18:25.18 | Fisker | moar |
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| 18:35.41 | Syllios | just got around to testing it, won't work: http://pastebin.com/2fiYJimS |
| 18:36.19 | Syllios | Tried setting the global SLASH_TESTING1 before assigning the handler, didn't make a difference. |
| 18:37.12 | nevcairiel | you need to include the slash in the command |
| 18:37.20 | nevcairiel | SLASH_TESTING1 = "/hmm" |
| 18:37.26 | kd3 | http://pastebin.com/R4xscnJr |
| 18:37.39 | nevcairiel | ha beat kd3 to it! |
| 18:37.46 | Syllios | HA! let me try that |
| 18:37.54 | nevcairiel | not sure the order matters |
| 18:38.13 | kd3 | I just follow the example on the wiki in any of my internal addons |
| 18:39.01 | Syllios | yep, it worked. many thanks, I didn't notice the slash there! |
| 18:45.50 | Syllios | lol http://ifunny.mobi/f/BVIbEBay46 |
| 18:49.46 | Neffi | Is CallbackHandler part of the Ace3 project and under the same license? |
| 18:50.28 | nevcairiel | its separate and under pure BSD license, http://www.wowace.com/addons/callbackhandler/ |
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| 18:51.46 | Neffi | Just thought I'd be nice and include the standard "This project uses X, available under these terms:" in my license file |
| 18:52.33 | Neffi | The lack of a filled in copyright line makes me wonder how best to do that |
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| 19:23.52 | jnwhiteh | Neffi: it was written by the Ace3 development team |
| 19:24.10 | jnwhiteh | same as LibStub, albeit slightly different =) |
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| 19:35.45 | Fisker | weird |
| 19:36.05 | Fisker | hah |
| 19:36.05 | Fisker | it does |
| 19:36.09 | Fisker | Google you sneaky bastards |
| 19:36.23 | Fisker | When I search for "<something>a" it doesn't work because there's two a's in it |
| 19:36.29 | Fisker | so it thinks its an å |
| 19:37.40 | g0urra | holy shit the Steam site is really super ultra slow. |
| 19:39.48 | pb_ee1 | g0urra: The site was almost completely down yesterday |
| 19:43.11 | haste | for hours... |
| 19:43.15 | haste | I missed a vote due to it! |
| 19:43.36 | g0urra | um, steam client? duh |
| 19:44.14 | haste | like I have that installed on my laptop :D |
| 19:44.23 | g0urra | I do and I don't even play on it |
| 19:44.25 | g0urra | problem? |
| 19:44.27 | haste | arm |
| 19:44.28 | Stanzilla | why not mr haste |
| 19:44.29 | Stanzilla | WHY |
| 19:44.31 | Stanzilla | THE FUCK |
| 19:44.32 | Stanzilla | NOT |
| 19:44.36 | haste | ARM! |
| 19:44.40 | Stanzilla | lol |
| 19:44.44 | Stanzilla | chromebook or what? |
| 19:44.56 | haste | yes |
| 19:45.02 | Stanzilla | any good? |
| 19:45.19 | haste | it's okey, I mainly abuse ssh for everything except my browser |
| 19:45.56 | haste | I'd like a new laptop, but everything sucks :( |
| 19:46.27 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 19:46.29 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 19:46.31 | Stanzilla | hey |
| 19:46.33 | Fisker | not so hey g0urra |
| 19:46.36 | haste | hey Fisker |
| 19:46.56 | Fisker | I can't access my steam inventory |
| 19:47.11 | Stanzilla | Fisker: I feel guilty |
| 19:47.15 | Fisker | good |
| 19:47.16 | Stanzilla | for robbing you all the time |
| 19:47.26 | Stanzilla | but I still don't have all badges for the event finished |
| 19:47.27 | Stanzilla | sad |
| 19:47.46 | Fisker | So you're guilting me into finishing your badgess |
| 19:47.48 | Fisker | tsk |
| 19:47.59 | Fisker | foils are expensive |
| 19:48.02 | Stanzilla | never would |
| 19:48.04 | Stanzilla | and yes |
| 19:48.06 | Stanzilla | did you buy all of them? |
| 19:48.09 | Fisker | yes |
| 19:48.14 | Stanzilla | it's like 15 euros or so? |
| 19:48.19 | Fisker | not when I bought them |
| 19:48.23 | Fisker | I think like 5€ or something |
| 19:48.33 | Stanzilla | yeah I should have bought them sooner |
| 19:48.57 | Stanzilla | kinda derped on that |
| 19:48.58 | Fisker | Prices were in excess of 5x compared to when I got them :P |
| 19:49.03 | Fisker | atleast the non-foils |
| 19:49.23 | Stanzilla | ye |
| 19:51.48 | haste | Fisker: you should send me some snow globes! |
| 19:52.48 | Fisker | one day this steam inventory will load |
| 19:52.53 | Fisker | Until then: http://i.imgur.com/wkj3k2h.gif |
| 19:53.24 | nevcairiel | until then you're a dalek out in the rain? |
| 19:53.57 | Fisker | It's a sad gif |
| 19:54.03 | Fisker | I.e. I'm sad |
| 19:54.11 | nevcairiel | didnt you pay attention |
| 19:54.14 | nevcairiel | daleks dont get sad |
| 19:54.15 | nevcairiel | or happy |
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| 19:54.30 | nevcairiel | they just go EXTERMINATE! |
| 19:57.48 | Fisker | some daleks get sad |
| 19:58.01 | nevcairiel | the defective ones |
| 20:06.56 | Neffi | If I change the duration of an Animation while it's playing, will it explode all over my keyboard? |
| 20:07.04 | nevcairiel | quite possibly |
| 20:08.14 | Neffi | Seems reasonable to assume it might |
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| 20:12.55 | Stanzilla | man, 15 euros to complete the last badges |
| 20:12.58 | Stanzilla | not sure if want |
| 20:13.05 | Shirik | http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001H55MFA/ref=s9_simh_gw_p14_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=10JMQJ3Y1CW09VGW2683&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200342&pf_rd_i=507846 |
| 20:13.09 | Shirik | amazon recommended this to me |
| 20:25.39 | Neffi | wtf |
| 20:26.05 | kd3 | ...the hell? |
| 20:26.11 | Neffi | lol -> "This book is easily one of the top four reference guides for shopping carts available on the market today. It does an excellent job of covering the following topics: * Shopping carts" |
| 20:30.15 | Neffi | Ace3 authors: potential problem in AceTimer-3.0, unless my tired eyes read wrong |
| 20:31.17 | Stanzilla | they do |
| 20:31.18 | Neffi | In the OnFinished function, if the callback fails in an error, then the animation object should fail to be marked inactive (moved out of activeTimers and into inactiveTimers) |
| 20:31.41 | Neffi | The callback should be dispatched at the end of the function, after you mark it inactive, so any errors don't prevent that |
| 20:31.58 | Neffi | at the beginning of the function* |
| 20:32.09 | Neffi | err, no, at the end |
| 20:32.17 | Neffi | Yes, I'm tired, but I think I'm correct |
| 20:34.56 | Ackis | hey Fisker you should play fable 3 so I can abuse you for achievements :P |
| 20:35.24 | Stanzilla | Neffi: I think Funkeh` did that part |
| 20:35.54 | Neffi | I'm just reading through the code and I noticed that, because I had thought to solve it in an unrelated dispatcher of my own just this morning |
| 20:36.19 | Neffi | I'll go through and do actual in-game tests in a bit |
| 20:53.10 | Neffi | here you go Ace3 people: http://i.imgur.com/yztCw2w.jpg http://pastebin.com/T0qCTe3p |
| 20:53.27 | Neffi | My timer fires, but doesn't get marked inactive |
| 20:53.54 | Neffi | Doesn't keep firing, but the animation object gets orphaned and it's left inside the activeTimers table, so that might break in a future change |
| 21:37.07 | Semlar | evaluates neffi's backwards compatibility |
| 21:37.19 | Neffi | I don't have any |
| 21:37.29 | Semlar | you have been found wanting |
| 21:37.35 | Semlar | what is it you want |
| 21:37.36 | Neffi | >_> |
| 21:37.41 | Neffi | you, hun |
| 21:37.48 | Semlar | you can't have me |
| 21:38.08 | Neffi | =( |
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| 22:00.28 | VIad | any perks using math.mod rather than %? |
| 22:00.43 | Shirik | function calls suck |
| 22:00.53 | Shirik | also, they yield different results |
| 22:01.43 | Shirik | lua> return math.fmod(-12, 7), -12 % 7 |
| 22:01.44 | lua_bot | Shirik: -5, 2 |
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| 22:07.48 | Kalroth | lua> return math.fmod(7, -12), -12 % 7 |
| 22:07.48 | lua_bot | Kalroth: 7, 2 |
| 22:08.04 | Kalroth | odd |
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| 22:57.34 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:58.47 | Neffi | "eww why would i want a bukly paperback?" |
| 22:59.01 | Neffi | "what am I, poor?" |
| 22:59.48 | Neffi | I for one will be happy if we never see the day when publishers stop printing paperbacks because everyone uses an ereader. I hate e-readers. |
| 23:00.08 | Dagmar | Have fun toting all that dead tree around |
| 23:00.31 | Neffi | I love it |
| 23:00.40 | Dagmar | I would rather the publishers quit playing fucking games with pricing. |
| 23:00.46 | Neffi | The smell of the paper and ink. The feeling when you turn a page. |
| 23:00.58 | Neffi | The simplicity of just having a damn book |
| 23:00.59 | Dagmar | I prefer the not lugging a 400lb trunk full of books around |
| 23:01.10 | Neffi | You carry every book around with you? |
| 23:01.13 | Dagmar | My technical manuals were the first thing to be converted. |
| 23:01.16 | foxlit | international availability is also a damn mess. |
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| 23:01.20 | Dagmar | No, most of them stay on 2-3 machines. |
| 23:01.29 | Dagmar | I can reach those from anywhere I've got internet access. |
| 23:01.30 | foxlit | "screw you, buddy! we're totally not letting you download those bits from all the way over there!" |
| 23:01.39 | Neffi | Oh, I like having manuals and reference sheets and such as PDFs on a smartphone/tablet |
| 23:01.52 | Neffi | But a novel is a different story |
| 23:01.57 | Dagmar | foxlit: I genuinely have no clue WTF Pratchett's publishers were thinking |
| 23:02.24 | Dagmar | Perhaps there's something more complex about translating English to American that makes it take five months |
| 23:02.59 | Dagmar | ...or it might be that Pratchett's fans are used to all sorts of strange dialects popping up and aren't likely to notice there's an issue. |
| 23:03.20 | Neffi | Sometimes piracy isn't about stealing. Sometimes it's about making up for the holes in the business model. |
| 23:04.01 | Dagmar | Yeah the sad thing is that Amazon taught them where the holes were, and publishes are still going on trying to pretend there's some greater secret than "sell the fuck out them inexpensively" |
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| 23:04.37 | kd3 | hm. my parents wound up going with a 60" smart tv |
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| 23:04.45 | kd3 | wonders if he can remote-control it from the internet |
| 23:04.46 | Neffi | And that's why a business should succeed or fail on its own merit, not on the merit of how strongly the state is willing enforce their IP rights |
| 23:05.14 | Neffi | A lot of smart TVs do have a control interface over wifi, so possibly |
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| 23:07.18 | Neffi | Ohh, you gave me a delicious and naughty idea, kd3 |
| 23:07.50 | Neffi | My friend loves his smart TV. He loves being able to control it from his smartphone. I wonder if I can't fashion a way to get the control interface over the public internet so I can fuck with him remotely |
| 23:08.14 | foxlit | 2-5 years. |
| 23:08.37 | foxlit | maybe half that with good behaviour, Neffi? |
| 23:08.44 | Neffi | lol |
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| 23:10.35 | Neffi | It'd be funny when he calls me up telling me his smart TV has a virus and asking me to fix it |
| 23:18.23 | Neffi | If you load in in the middle of combat, are you InCombatLockdown() during PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD? |
| 23:18.59 | nevcairiel | i think PEW was too late, indeed |
| 23:20.22 | Amarande | The conundrum with IP quite possibly boils down to trust, although Kickstarter projects sometimes seem to show hope that it might be a surmountable issue eventually :S |
| 23:20.54 | Neffi | Well I hope PLAYER_LOGIN remains consistent when we get the bnet launcher and pre-launch login |
| 23:20.55 | Amarande | Without IP rights, you really can't trust all that much that the market will buy from you enough to support you instead of just copying |
| 23:21.12 | Amarande | So you have to abandon the post-production sales model and go with a pre-production focused sales model, ala Kickstarter |
| 23:21.23 | nevcairiel | that has nothing to do with battle.net login, you still login into a character |
| 23:21.29 | Amarande | however, the mass market doesn't seem to have really felt that they trust things like that enough for it to really work on a world scale yet :S |
| 23:21.56 | Neffi | nevcairiel: Somebody reported that the load order became inconsistent, but that was a while ago |
| 23:21.56 | Amarande | people are still anxious and expecting product at or shortly after making payment |
| 23:22.10 | foxlit | I strongly suspect that somebody has no clue. |
| 23:22.22 | nevcairiel | Its always that somebody |
| 23:22.30 | Amarande | well that *has* long been a problem with Lua |
| 23:22.43 | foxlit | somebodies in general, I think. So dastardly! |
| 23:22.49 | Amarande | namely one thing that it's always sucked at is that it's nigh impossible to reliably ensure that actions occur in a specific order |
| 23:23.24 | Amarande | We could almost have called it ARCS instead! heh |
| 23:23.33 | Amarande | 'Always Race Condition Scripting' |
| 23:24.02 | jnwhiteh | that has nothing to do with Lua.. |
| 23:24.07 | jnwhiteh | like, absolutely nothing at all. |
| 23:24.16 | jnwhiteh | not even a little bit |
| 23:24.23 | Amarande | jnwhiteh: it still appears to be a chronic fault with the addon system, though |
| 23:24.27 | foxlit | come on, we were ignoring that so nicely. |
| 23:24.32 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: I can't.. |
| 23:24.34 | jnwhiteh | i just.. |
| 23:24.35 | foxlit | do it! |
| 23:24.37 | Amarande | if you absolutely have to make sure A occurs before B then you may just be F'd |
| 23:24.39 | foxlit | for the good of humanity! |
| 23:24.43 | nevcairiel | jnwhiteh: just do what we all do, and add a ignore rule |
| 23:24.57 | jnwhiteh | but.. someone is wrong on the internet! |
| 23:25.15 | nevcairiel | until you can punch them in the face over the internet, some people are just not going to get it |
| 23:26.27 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 23:27.53 | Neffi | think I'm being too aggressive with hiding framexml elements? http://pastebin.com/LY7g4gPS |
| 23:27.58 | Neffi | (lol) |
| 23:29.15 | nevcairiel | its usually easier to just re-parent them to a hidden parent, framexml typically doesnt re-parent its frames again :p |
| 23:30.26 | Neffi | I had that in old code going back like 3 years, and I vaguely recall hitting a bug where a given piece of the framexml was depending on :GetParent() to behave as expected |
| 23:30.28 | nevcairiel | and if a parent is hidden, so are all its children, so explicitly hiding them is really not necessary |
| 23:30.33 | Neffi | I could be remembering wrong though |
| 23:30.55 | Neffi | Yeah that was for removing the events |
| 23:31.04 | Neffi | Though I should probably roll that into its own routine |
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