| 00:01.22 | Semlar-Laptop | stat squish is not optional |
| 00:02.10 | Neffi | Tentative == planned/hopeful but not definite |
| 00:02.13 | Semlar-Laptop | garrosh has to reset his health multiple times during the fight because people do too much damage |
| 00:02.21 | Neffi | I hope they do it, and I hope it limtis what we can solo |
| 00:02.26 | Semlar-Laptop | they have to |
| 00:02.32 | Semlar-Laptop | they can't keep making gear scale up |
| 00:02.37 | Neffi | I like being able to tackle old raids solo/duo, but I wish it felt more challenging to do so |
| 00:03.01 | Neffi | I'd give up the ability to solo most shit, to make the stuff I can solo harder |
| 00:03.03 | Semlar-Laptop | they can't store raid boss health any more |
| 00:03.14 | Neffi | says who? |
| 00:03.26 | Semlar-Laptop | integer overflows yo |
| 00:04.00 | Neffi | If they used signed 64 bit ints, they can go as high as 9,223,372,036,854,775,807 |
| 00:04.07 | Semlar-Laptop | as i understand it that is why they had to split garrosh into multiple phases |
| 00:04.28 | Neffi | unsigned makes it massively higher obviously |
| 00:04.54 | Neffi | A signed 32-bit int gives them up to over 2 billion |
| 00:18.21 | Semlar | signs 32-bit neffi |
| 00:20.31 | Primer | I'm sure Blizz is really fretting over those 4 extra bytes |
| 00:20.32 | Neffi | silly semlar |
| 00:20.34 | Neffi | im not 32bit |
| 00:21.50 | Semlar | pretty sure ra-den started glitching at over 2 billion health |
| 00:22.18 | Neffi | wow they hit 2 bill already? |
| 00:22.29 | Neffi | well it's not like they can't bump up to 64-bit or unsigned 32 |
| 00:23.03 | Semlar | i don't think they can just "bump" it up to 64 bit |
| 00:23.19 | Semlar | i think it might be a little more work to convert their current system |
| 00:23.21 | Neffi | sure they can |
| 00:23.36 | Semlar | how is that going to work with a 32 bit client |
| 00:23.41 | Neffi | Change the ints to 64, go through and rewrite a few pieces of code in a lot of places |
| 00:23.58 | Neffi | oh right the client is still ofered in 32 bit |
| 00:24.16 | Semlar | at any rate, i'm sure it's going to be a little more complicated than just changing a few things here and there |
| 00:24.38 | Semlar | it's simpler for them to just keep their current system limping along and squishing the numbers |
| 00:24.51 | Neffi | You can use 64-bit ints on x86, but I think they're less efficient |
| 00:24.53 | Neffi | i dunno |
| 00:25.00 | foxlit | meh |
| 00:25.03 | Semlar | it's probably possible |
| 00:25.12 | foxlit | "Orgrimmar Radiance: everything takes 75% less damage" |
| 00:25.15 | Neffi | Oh no it definitely is possible to use 64-bit ints on x86 |
| 00:25.36 | Neffi | just not sure of the speed. so it's not like they're being forced to swish |
| 00:25.46 | Primer | argh, WoL is broken |
| 00:25.56 | Primer | hit upload and the progress bar sits at 0% |
| 00:25.57 | Neffi | hell they could change over to doubles. that gives... well a lot bigger range than a 32-bit signed int |
| 00:26.21 | foxlit | Stop before someone gets hurt. |
| 00:26.22 | Neffi | like 52 or 54 bits of range |
| 00:27.01 | Semlar | i think their plan is to squish all of the non-current content and just make the current stuff go up exponentially every tier like they normally do |
| 00:27.54 | Semlar | that way it makes all of the old stuff trivial and you can still get upgradez |
| 00:28.33 | Semlar | and pretty much nothing changes from the current system except the numbers are smaller |
| 00:30.50 | Semlar | nev seemed a lil angry about me making a group finder addon |
| 00:32.41 | Neffi | nev's German |
| 00:32.46 | Semlar | ah |
| 00:32.53 | Neffi | hides from the other German people. |
| 00:32.54 | Semlar | so he's naturally angry then |
| 00:33.13 | Neffi | He seems pretty chill, but I assume he must be |
| 00:33.23 | Semlar | must be |
| 00:34.12 | Semlar | said it would screw up casual players who didn't keep up with which FOTM addon is hot right now |
| 00:34.51 | Neffi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwgTfNuijkM#t=159 |
| 00:34.52 | Semlar | i wager that player also has no idea what the raid browser is |
| 00:37.34 | Semlar | a gift only to the worms |
| 00:38.22 | Primer | WoL client doesn't handle connection problems very well |
| 00:39.42 | foxlit | upgrade to HotS already :P |
| 00:46.18 | Neffi | Or DotA2? |
| 00:46.32 | Neffi | my brother's an old school Blizz gamer and he says it's really good |
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| 00:50.08 | Neffi | oh lord |
| 00:50.50 | Neffi | So I searched my brother's old name on Starcraft, figuring a few hits because he got semi famous in the online community. It was "BBQ dippin sauce". So I searched that + Starcraft. Anyone wanna guess what came up? |
| 00:51.02 | Semlar | porn |
| 00:51.10 | Neffi | A shitload of stuff on Korean cuisine |
| 00:52.09 | Semlar | is that some sort of euphemism |
| 00:52.40 | Neffi | Koreans were crazy addicted to Starcraft |
| 00:52.45 | Neffi | It's like a running joke |
| 00:52.54 | kd3 | were? |
| 00:52.59 | Neffi | correction, are |
| 00:53.01 | Semlar | it's a national sport |
| 01:02.29 | Neffi | Are nameplates global? |
| 01:04.38 | Semlar | what do you mean |
| 01:05.32 | Semlar | they have global names |
| 01:06.25 | Neffi | They have names, but are they in the global namespace? |
| 01:06.37 | Neffi | Eg, is NamePlate1 accessible as a global `NamePlate1`? |
| 01:06.40 | Semlar | yes |
| 01:06.57 | Neffi | You positive? Because I tested a while ago and they werent |
| 01:07.01 | Semlar | i am positive |
| 01:07.35 | Semlar | every nameplate has a global name |
| 01:07.56 | Semlar | they don't necessarily start at 1 though |
| 01:08.12 | Semlar | once the names are used they don't seem to get reused after you reload the ui |
| 01:08.21 | Neffi | Yeah, so I need a classic WorldFrame children scanner to find the first one, then I can just do an incremental scan from there |
| 01:11.18 | Semlar | what would you do if someone created a frame with the NamePlate format |
| 01:11.26 | foxlit | cry in a corner. |
| 01:11.54 | Neffi | Semlar: uninstall that addon |
| 01:12.06 | Semlar | i did that with questplates to trick their nameplate addon into styling my template |
| 01:12.32 | Semlar | NEFFI |
| 01:12.36 | Semlar | NEFFIIIIII |
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| 01:13.24 | Neffi | well then |
| 01:13.32 | Semlar | neffi |
| 01:13.35 | Neffi | semlar |
| 01:13.41 | Semlar | neffi |
| 01:13.47 | Neffi | semlar |
| 01:14.05 | Semlar | it's probably not worth the performance gain |
| 01:14.12 | Neffi | yeah probably not |
| 01:14.27 | Neffi | I realized as I'm writing it, why the fuck am I doing this? |
| 01:14.50 | foxlit | because you have nothing worthwhile to do? |
| 01:15.04 | Neffi | foxlit: ...that's absolutely correct |
| 01:15.08 | Semlar | alright foxlit has convinced me to reduce the menu down to scenario/dungeon/challenge mode/raids |
| 01:17.55 | Semlar | how do i get a santa hat on my level 2 bank alt |
| 01:18.38 | Semlar | can i get into a heroic? |
| 01:18.58 | Semlar | are they level locked if i try to enter by the portal |
| 01:19.29 | Neffi | assert(not getmetatable(obj),'cannot initialize deflowered object') |
| 01:19.42 | Semlar | deflowered! |
| 01:20.02 | Neffi | Thought line -- raw, untouched... virgin. Opposite of virgin? |
| 01:20.11 | Semlar | slut |
| 01:20.15 | Neffi | haha |
| 01:21.25 | Semlar | your object is a whore |
| 01:21.46 | Neffi | Should never get called |
| 01:22.02 | Neffi | Just adding error checking to my micro-framework that I've been using for too long without some proper debugging capability |
| 01:32.29 | Neffi | lua> return ("test"):format() |
| 01:32.30 | lua_bot | Neffi: test |
| 01:40.09 | Neffi | So store frames cannot have their API called, correct? |
| 01:42.54 | Semlar | you can't even look at them funny |
| 01:44.37 | Neffi | But doing something like :GetName() or :GetObjectType() throws an error, right? |
| 01:45.40 | Semlar | if you're worried about enumerateframes i wonder if they'd even show up |
| 01:46.11 | Neffi | Oh no, I've got a function mod:type() that returns 'frame' the results from GetObjectType if it's a frame object |
| 01:46.36 | Neffi | I want to know if I need logic to prevent it from erroring, and if so what's the API, because I couldn't find any info on it yesterday |
| 01:46.57 | Semlar | hell if i know |
| 01:47.19 | Neffi | >_> |
| 01:47.27 | foxlit | yawn. |
| 01:54.40 | Neffi | tired, foxlit? |
| 01:54.50 | foxlit | 3am. |
| 01:57.29 | foxlit | also, I'm staring at http://pastebin.com/e2aNiVPC and thinking that it really needs a rewrite. |
| 01:58.37 | foxlit | but it's ever-so-tedious, so yawn. |
| 02:21.09 | Neffi | so tedious it doesn't even exist |
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| 02:49.38 | Naturalkill | Could I ask what is probably a simple question about item links? |
| 02:53.04 | Naturalkill | Is there any way to add text with a hyperlink to a regular frame? |
| 02:59.28 | Neffi | I don't believe so, at least not any built in way. You have to do it youself. |
| 03:00.30 | Naturalkill | Hmm, alright then. Thanks. |
| 03:01.56 | Naturalkill | I have no idea how I'm going to go about doing this lol |
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| 03:37.16 | Soopie | Anyone ever run into the blizzard in game menu essentially disappearing? |
| 03:37.51 | Neffi | Have you updated all your addons? |
| 03:38.56 | Soopie | I have. Im going to assume its one I recently updated causing the problem. Ive been writing an addon and added it to the menu earlier, but havent touched the code again since it has been working |
| 03:39.44 | Soopie | Safe assumption you think? |
| 03:43.02 | Soopie | Fixed it |
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| 04:10.34 | pompy | Torhal: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=601157453272283&set=a.414413855279978.99986.276710412383657&type=1&theater lol |
| 04:10.46 | kd3 | I uh, I'd make fun of walmart, but this image does it all by itself: http://i.imgur.com/vZ5vaMS.jpg |
| 04:19.37 | airtonix | in ad, what's the diff between a security group and distribution group? |
| 04:45.33 | Dagmar | Distribution group is for sending mail to |
| 04:45.42 | Neffi | wtf |
| 04:47.18 | Neffi | ~framexml |
| 04:47.19 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console or open 'World of Warcraft.app' --args -console after game loads press ~ and enter commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml . |
| 04:47.30 | Neffi | ~botcookie |
| 04:47.30 | purl | :-P |
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| 05:24.20 | Semlar | ~nefficookie |
| 05:30.25 | Neffi | yum |
| 05:35.15 | Semlar | should be taking effect any minute now.. |
| 05:35.41 | Neffi | passes out. |
| 05:36.06 | Semlar | oh wait, wrong batch |
| 05:36.29 | Neffi | http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN85S9VFXZA |
| 05:36.34 | Semlar | well no sense crying over spilt milt |
| 05:36.37 | Neffi | $44,999.99 |
| 05:36.47 | Neffi | wtf |
| 05:37.24 | Mihau | On sale for $39,999.99 though! |
| 05:37.29 | Neffi | I thought Intel was crazy for charging $1000 for an X series CPU |
| 05:37.59 | Semlar | at some point you might as well just convert the place into a theater |
| 05:38.23 | Semlar | look, for forty grand i think you could manage something |
| 05:38.28 | Neffi | That's why they call it "home theater" |
| 05:38.56 | Neffi | But $40k is fucking excessive. That's in the realm of having a custom panel fitted into your wall, which people do |
| 05:39.39 | Semlar | yeah i don't know how much those digital xenon projectors cost that they use in actual theaters is but uh.. 40 grand? |
| 05:40.51 | Neffi | If you can sacrifice 20 inches, you can get the lower down model for only ~$8k |
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| 05:41.13 | Semlar | first off i don't have a room in my house big enough for an 85 inch television |
| 05:41.20 | Semlar | it would look terrible |
| 05:41.29 | Iriel | Semlar: well, the bulbs for those projectors are in excess of $500 |
| 05:42.25 | Iriel | A used 1920 x 1080 projector is about 30K |
| 05:42.30 | Iriel | http://www.solarisnetwork.com/used/flm-hd20/35437 |
| 05:42.44 | Semlar | neat |
| 05:42.49 | Neffi | 1920x1080 across a theater screen is miserable PPI |
| 05:42.57 | Iriel | Neffi: exactly |
| 05:43.07 | Neffi | What do they use? 8K? |
| 05:44.38 | Semlar | well, distance factors into it quite a bit |
| 05:45.53 | Neffi | Not enough |
| 05:53.01 | Iriel | " Digital projectors, like NEC's NC3240S pictured here, can cost $50,000 to $75,000, which includes additional equipment and installation." |
| 05:53.10 | Iriel | That's a 4K model |
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| 06:05.50 | Neffi | I know the Hobbit was shot in 4K, so that's probably standard |
| 06:06.01 | Neffi | I'm surprised they don't shoot in 8K though |
| 06:06.09 | Neffi | didnt* |
| 06:09.37 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/B4vmF46.gif |
| 06:11.39 | Semlar | this is what animal planet has been reduced to |
| 06:14.22 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/nTG4nOp.jpg |
| 06:14.30 | Semlar | no neffi |
| 06:14.36 | Neffi | yes |
| 06:14.40 | Semlar | stahp |
| 06:14.54 | Neffi | continues. |
| 06:15.46 | Semlar | plz don't |
| 06:17.26 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/61ZgK1b.jpg |
| 06:17.50 | Semlar | i don't get it |
| 06:18.07 | Semlar | oh that's an f |
| 06:18.27 | Semlar | bit of an unfortunate font |
| 06:19.01 | Semlar | how many tattoos do you have neffi |
| 06:19.18 | Neffi | zero |
| 06:19.30 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/9jIZjIe.jpg maybe this will be my first tat |
| 06:19.45 | Semlar | you won't regret it |
| 06:20.03 | Neffi | i don't expect I will |
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| 06:48.01 | Torhal | Anyone who has Curse Premium (which should be anyone hosting an AddOn) should go to http://curse.com/myoffers to get a free game from GOG. |
| 06:48.30 | Torhal | You get to choose from a list of 10. |
| 06:49.02 | karl_w_w | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/130769-First-Artificial-Heart-Implanted-in-Human-Paitent so that's a thing |
| 06:49.17 | Kraps | anyone have a HS beta key |
| 06:50.42 | karl_w_w | everyone should have a key by now Kraps |
| 06:51.14 | Kraps | in the email? |
| 06:51.43 | karl_w_w | yeah, everyone who opted in before the 16th of dec got one |
| 06:54.24 | Kraps | where is the opt in thing |
| 06:54.40 | Kraps | why isnt it automatic :( |
| 06:56.12 | karl_w_w | it's in account management with all the other beta opt-in things |
| 06:56.13 | karl_w_w | wherever that is |
| 07:00.40 | Primer | Has anyone else tried uploading to WoL today? |
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| 07:01.34 | Kraps | gosh i wasnt opted in |
| 07:01.51 | Kraps | freakin |
| 07:04.51 | Primer | fucking WoL java client is such a POS |
| 07:05.00 | Primer | network connections seem to block the UI |
| 07:05.07 | Primer | you can't even hit the close button |
| 07:05.18 | Primer | I have to open process exploder and kill it |
| 07:07.22 | Primer | argh, could it be because I was using a proxy in my browser? |
| 07:07.30 | Neffi | sounds like you should avoid their stuff |
| 07:13.19 | Stanzilla | Primer: use warcraftlogs instead |
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| 08:59.42 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 08:59.53 | jnwhiteh | I seem to be unable to figure out whether or not a given function is defined in C or in Lua |
| 09:00.00 | jnwhiteh | without building a lookup table, which I really don't want to do =( |
| 09:01.07 | nevcairiel | parse the whole framexml into a vanilla lua, all functions that show up are lua functions? :d |
| 09:01.21 | jnwhiteh | that falls under building a lookup table =) |
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| 09:03.16 | jnwhiteh | string.dump used to work perfectly =( |
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| 09:13.16 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 09:13.23 | jnwhiteh | hiya! |
| 09:13.42 | Fisker | had a good birthday? |
| 09:18.42 | Sintacks | I started VLC earlier to watch a movie and then decided to go to bed but didn't close it. come back and look at bottom right of screen and see an icon i've never seen before and can't tell what the fuck it is. |
| 09:18.52 | Sintacks | it's the VLC cone with a santa hat on it |
| 09:26.03 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: yeah it was nice |
| 09:26.07 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: =) |
| 09:26.13 | Fisker | cool :) |
| 09:27.54 | Sintacks | anyone named Kibsgaard in here ... |
| 09:28.17 | Sintacks | Fisker you happy? |
| 09:28.33 | Fisker | sure? |
| 09:30.40 | Sintacks | y u happy Fisker |
| 09:30.56 | Fisker | being sad would be dumb |
| 09:34.11 | karl_w_w | i love it when websites say "about 2 hours ago" and it's wildly inaccurate because they are rounding up |
| 09:34.25 | karl_w_w | and they don't show you the actual time |
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| 09:35.30 | Sintacks | I love it when someone posts an addon and it requires a lib but they don't include the lib |
| 09:40.11 | karl_w_w | I love it when Sintacks is sarcastic |
| 09:44.23 | Kalroth | I love posting addons that uses libraries but dont include the library |
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| 10:00.09 | Sintacks | sad. this addon seemed cool. but it's buggy and kills frame rate when it's inspecting and displaying |
| 10:02.16 | Sintacks | oo.. it's in a "planning stage" k. |
| 10:02.17 | Sintacks | nvm then |
| 10:02.23 | Sintacks | even still |
| 10:02.26 | Sintacks | needs a lot of work |
| 10:02.27 | Sintacks | ;| |
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| 10:43.19 | karl_w_w | fucking twitch |
| 10:43.22 | karl_w_w | fucking |
| 10:43.24 | karl_w_w | twitch |
| 10:44.04 | karl_w_w | wait for me to try and write a message and then log me out for no reason |
| 10:44.16 | karl_w_w | then don't send it when I log in so I have to write the whole thing again |
| 10:44.16 | karl_w_w | thanks |
| 10:46.23 | zenzelezz | I agree, but World of Tanks has an even worse chat. If you get a notification while you are writing (like the result of a battle), it resets what you've typed |
| 10:49.18 | karl_w_w | nice |
| 10:50.55 | karl_w_w | on the subject, I think facebook is the only website that manages to keep me logged in all the time |
| 10:51.09 | karl_w_w | which is a shame because I use facebook so rarely |
| 10:52.13 | karl_w_w | mmo champ is pretty good at it as well, come to think of it |
| 10:54.18 | Sintacks | hmm. it changed from planning to beta (re: addon I was QQ'ing about) |
| 10:54.32 | Sintacks | but no replies to my comments/bugs |
| 11:09.34 | zenzelezz | sometimes I think pizzas would be even better if I didn't eat a quarter of the cheese before putting it in the oven |
| 11:18.35 | Sintacks | .... |
| 11:18.41 | Sintacks | my macros keep disspearing |
| 11:20.22 | jleclanche | E18 Released, E17 Release Still Pending (phab.enlightenment.org) |
| 11:20.23 | jleclanche | haha |
| 11:20.26 | jleclanche | i love this guy |
| 11:34.02 | zenzelezz | who's that? |
| 11:34.17 | zenzelezz | man, I need to try Enlightenment again |
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| 13:25.18 | foxlit | jnwhiteh: I seem to be unable to figure out whether or not a given function is defined in C or in Lua << didn't you already have this problem in like 5.0? |
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| 13:32.51 | VIad | foxlit: wait... aren't C defined functions in the WoW.exe? |
| 13:34.08 | zenzelezz | doesn't necessarily mean you can just dump the export table |
| 13:34.46 | VIad | no I just mean if the question is figuring out what function is defined in C or Lua then it's possible to figure that out :) |
| 13:35.55 | zenzelezz | I don't know exactly what the context what; but it sounded like he wanted to be able to find out if an arbitrary function was C or lua; not necessarily one specific function |
| 13:36.17 | zenzelezz | *was |
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| 13:36.48 | VIad | hmm |
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| 13:46.34 | VIad | wasn't there a older ptr build sometime ago that came fully equipped with all the API documentation because it wasn't stripped when compiled? |
| 13:46.52 | VIad | ah I remember how awesome it was, the wikis got properly documented rather quickly that time :D |
| 13:52.36 | foxlit | no such thing. |
| 13:52.45 | VIad | there is a local reference in the executable for streaming.corp.blizzard.net/patchlist/ldap.php :D |
| 13:53.34 | VIad | I think it was the mac build that had it when I think about it |
| 13:54.07 | VIad | btw blizzard uses php :P |
| 13:54.10 | foxlit | it would be much easier for you just to point at the wiki documentation. |
| 13:54.20 | VIad | it was so many years ago man |
| 13:54.42 | foxlit | article history doesn't really care how many ears ago that was. |
| 13:55.07 | VIad | all I remember is that the ptr released a build where the wow executable had API descriptions attached |
| 13:55.47 | foxlit | basically, viad, [citation needed]. |
| 13:56.19 | VIad | as I said I just remember it randomly and shared my thought, hoping someone else too remembers :P atm I am browsing the wow.exe for fun with ollybbg |
| 13:56.41 | VIad | uh "-attachment" is perhaps a startup argument |
| 13:58.11 | VIad | neato the cvars have descriptions |
| 13:58.34 | VIad | "disable server-side nagle algorithm" what's that? |
| 13:59.14 | zenzelezz | not sure about server-side, but it's to do with how TCP waits for data |
| 13:59.47 | zenzelezz | normally it holds on for a short while to see if it can get a full packet or something like that; disabling the algorithm says "fuck that" |
| 13:59.56 | zenzelezz | unless I'm getting the names confused |
| 13:59.59 | VIad | I just quoted the description, hehe |
| 14:00.09 | VIad | some more fun argument like strings |
| 14:00.13 | VIad | " -product "World of WarCraft" -locale "and " -reopen " |
| 14:00.24 | VIad | -pid %d and -iconpath |
| 14:00.27 | VIad | wonder what these are for |
| 14:01.28 | VIad | d:\buildserver\wow\4\work\wow-code\branches\wow-patch-5_4_2-branch-fastpatch-0\wow\source\Object/ObjectClient/Player_C.h hehe |
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| 14:02.42 | VIad | seems like they use "RunOnce*.wtf" so you can have many RunOnce files |
| 14:03.49 | VIad | uuh |
| 14:03.59 | VIad | you can rewrite MFIL files based on hosts.debug file |
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| 14:18.33 | VIad | enough fun for today :) |
| 14:35.01 | VIad | funny |
| 14:35.02 | VIad | createcrappygreentexture.blp |
| 14:35.40 | VIad | why "tumor" in f:\projects\wow-repository\wow5.4.2\battle.net\src\client\tumor\HashMap.h(443) ? |
| 14:48.35 | Alram | getting this from a debug build? |
| 14:48.49 | VIad | the live build actually |
| 14:48.55 | Alram | lol |
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| 15:56.10 | kd3|hate`net | ...well, that's alarming. since around 7 this morning (4 hours ago) we've gotten 2" of rain |
| 15:57.03 | Kraps | know what else is alarming |
| 15:57.20 | Kraps | its 70 degrees in nyc right now |
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| 16:16.43 | g0urra | so apparently the amazon game downloads are only available to US customers |
| 16:16.43 | g0urra | fu amazon |
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| 16:35.57 | pompy | g0urra: i like that policy! |
| 16:36.07 | g0urra | why? |
| 16:45.02 | g0urra | why do you say it's a good thing? |
| 16:47.52 | Fisker | so any image hosts that excepts large filesizes? |
| 16:48.29 | Kraps | excepts |
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| 16:50.45 | foxlit | Didn't imgur, like, eat all the other image hosts for breakfast? |
| 16:52.22 | foxlit | "The maximum non-animated file size you can upload is 10MB. However, if the image is over 1MB then it will automatically be compressed or resized to 1MB, for better viewing on the net. The maximum animated file size (both GIF and PNG) is 2MB." |
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| 16:56.49 | g0urra | except minus |
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| 16:59.03 | karl_w_w | yes Fisker, pretty much all image hosts except large files |
| 16:59.33 | Kraps | except me |
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| 17:11.00 | kullervo | Fisker: host your own or use something like dropbox public links |
| 17:11.34 | kullervo | not sure how big files the google album thing allows you to upload but it might be an option too |
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| 17:19.47 | Fisker | yeah I know kullervo |
| 17:19.50 | Fisker | my host was slow |
| 17:19.55 | Fisker | So I wanted another place to put it |
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| 17:33.14 | kullervo | Fisker: well, those I mentioned, or invest in a better host |
| 17:33.26 | kullervo | I host my shit on my own connection which is plenty enough for small scale use |
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| 19:44.21 | Neffi | what the fuck |
| 19:44.49 | Neffi | It's Dec 22 and I woke up sweating because it was so hot |
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| 19:50.12 | karl_w_w | we don't need to know about your dreams thanks Neffi |
| 19:51.03 | Neffi | lol |
| 19:51.16 | Neffi | It's 70 deg outside. Mid day in winter. |
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| 19:51.36 | Torhal | 57 here |
| 19:53.34 | karl_w_w | yeah that's pretty damn hot, I'm surprised you can survive in 70° :P |
| 19:53.48 | Cairenn | -12 here |
| 19:53.51 | kd3 | it was in the 70s before the front got here, we're in the upper 50s now |
| 19:54.14 | Neffi | karl_w_w: >_> |
| 19:54.16 | kd3 | I was woken up by thunder. thunder! |
| 19:54.29 | Cairenn | The freezing rain woke me |
| 19:54.33 | Neffi | i feel like I'm gonna wake up to the apocolypse soon |
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| 20:41.26 | Fisker | It's my feet are cold degrees here |
| 20:43.47 | kd3 | whee. we've hit 3" of rain so far today |
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| 21:07.55 | Neffi | Is there any way to get a reference to a piece of userdata in WoW besides fetching it from a frame's [0]? |
| 21:09.20 | Iriel | Any particular kind of userdata? |
| 21:09.39 | Neffi | No, just something such that type(thing) == 'userdata' |
| 21:10.16 | Iriel | newproxy() should return a userdata |
| 21:10.22 | Neffi | Ah, right |
| 21:10.58 | Neffi | Well I'm gonna say it's safe to assume that if somebody creates an object with newproxy() at [0] and a method named GetObjectType, that they *want* to spoof a frame |
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| 21:12.32 | Iriel | Neffi: I think that's an entirely reasonable assumption |
| 21:13.02 | Semlar | spoofs neffi |
| 21:13.39 | Neffi | no, this is all wrong, semlar |
| 21:13.46 | Neffi | why do I look like a rabbit? |
| 21:13.59 | Semlar | your inner furry? |
| 21:14.06 | Neffi | ~lart semlar |
| 21:14.06 | purl | eats semlar and falls over dead |
| 21:17.21 | Semlar | serves you right |
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| 21:34.31 | Neffi | fun http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/12/cern-challenges-you-to-find-the-lego-it-hid-in-its-google-streetview-shoot/ |
| 21:35.13 | Semlar | how did they get their car into the building |
| 21:35.21 | Neffi | -_- |
| 21:35.54 | Semlar | i bet the elevator was a challenge |
| 21:37.55 | Neffi | drives a car into Semlar's house. |
| 21:38.12 | Semlar | you're gonna pay for that |
| 21:38.22 | Neffi | runs away. |
| 21:39.06 | Semlar | kids these days.. |
| 21:40.08 | Semlar | pandora's stuck on the bluegrass tribute to metallica |
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| 22:16.03 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:18.37 | Neffi | I can't tell if it looks nice. The high pitched singing blinded me momentarily |
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| 22:23.07 | jleclanche | anyone familiar with mysql? |
| 22:23.10 | foxlit | Neffi: curious; usually, these two things are not connected. Have you considered donating your brain to science? |
| 22:23.26 | Iriel | jleclanche: I've used it, does that count? |
| 22:23.34 | jleclanche | Iriel: https://github.com/Adys/django-push-notifications/issues/15#issuecomment-31097400 |
| 22:23.35 | jleclanche | wtf ^ |
| 22:24.12 | Semlar | can an addon call something that requires a hardware event in response to a slash command |
| 22:24.33 | Neffi | foxlit: every day I wake up |
| 22:24.40 | Iriel | jleclanche: That seems like a reasonable error if someone's trying to use a "long" column as part of a key |
| 22:24.56 | jleclanche | Iriel: I dont understand |
| 22:25.06 | foxlit | you're using a BLOB/TEXT column in a key |
| 22:25.14 | foxlit | mysql wants to know how much of that column it's supposed to index. |
| 22:25.19 | jleclanche | ah |
| 22:25.22 | Neffi | Semlar: depends what you mean. Hitting the enter key should count as a hardware event. Eg, SlashCmdList['blah'] = ReloadUI works, and I'm pretty sure ReloadUI req a hardware event |
| 22:25.25 | jleclanche | hmm, I dont think Im using it as a key |
| 22:25.28 | Iriel | Probably an unbounded TEXT column. |
| 22:25.31 | Iriel | it's "registration_id" |
| 22:25.35 | Iriel | sounds like it wants to be a key |
| 22:25.42 | Iriel | Also sounds like an odd choice for an unbounded column |
| 22:26.16 | foxlit | maybe it's a misnamed username. |
| 22:26.55 | Mr_Rabies | foxlit: have you seen the Dirty Pair movie? |
| 22:27.07 | Mr_Rabies | best opening ever, ever |
| 22:27.18 | jleclanche | Iriel: ah, I see, its because its unique=True |
| 22:27.30 | Iriel | jleclanche: how's that column defined? |
| 22:27.35 | Iriel | in the table definition? |
| 22:27.48 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z53R0LoeV8c |
| 22:27.54 | Mr_Rabies | foxlit ^ |
| 22:28.08 | Iriel | or some crazy dynamic object relational mapper? |
| 22:28.14 | jleclanche | Iriel: registration_id = models.TextField(verbose_name=_("Registration ID"), unique=True) |
| 22:28.18 | jleclanche | its pretty standard |
| 22:28.36 | jleclanche | i could get you the mysql definition but i dont have mysql here |
| 22:28.45 | Iriel | Hm, I'd have expected it to be a CHAR/VARCHAR |
| 22:28.47 | Iriel | rather than a TEXT |
| 22:29.07 | Iriel | TEXT is the character version of BLOB, and as such typically has some overhead for "normal use" |
| 22:29.18 | foxlit | Mr_Rabies: it looks like a james bond opening animation without the appropriate production budget. |
| 22:29.23 | jleclanche | Iriel: only on mysql |
| 22:29.29 | jleclanche | on postgres its more efficient |
| 22:29.35 | Mr_Rabies | it has a pretty amazing budget, tbh, foxlit |
| 22:29.37 | jleclanche | and i care more about postgres |
| 22:29.49 | Iriel | jleclanche: On oracle you dont want to use a CLOB when you can use a VARCHAR |
| 22:29.57 | jleclanche | yeah fuck oracle :p |
| 22:30.14 | jleclanche | Iriel: and more to the point, the registration_id is of arbitrary length |
| 22:30.22 | Iriel | Truly arbitrary? |
| 22:30.28 | jleclanche | truuuuly arbitrary |
| 22:30.35 | Iriel | Then you're insane. |
| 22:30.42 | jleclanche | some of up to 10 000 characters have been spotted |
| 22:30.43 | Iriel | Or at least, dont care about being pragmatic |
| 22:30.56 | jleclanche | Iriel: im not storing my own data |
| 22:31.04 | jleclanche | im storing android/ios IDs |
| 22:31.16 | jleclanche | i suppose i could drop the unique=True |
| 22:31.49 | Iriel | I would hope the unique=True was only there because it was a logical necessity of your data model |
| 22:31.59 | jleclanche | Its really not |
| 22:32.07 | Iriel | Then why's it there? |
| 22:32.14 | jleclanche | because reg ids are supposed to be unique |
| 22:33.42 | Shirik | http://www.dorkly.com/article/52979/weirdly-sexual-references-in-pokemon |
| 22:40.45 | Iriel | jleclanche: maybe store and index a hash of the id if you want uniqueness without the pain of an indexed CLOB/TEXT column? |
| 22:41.04 | jleclanche | no its fine, im dropping unique |
| 22:58.38 | kd3 | good grief at the flag fest in the patriots/ravens game |
| 22:58.47 | kd3 | 11 accepted penalties and it's not even halftime yet |
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